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I downloaded Elysium's 'Spice and Wolf II 1080p BD' and noticed a really noticeable banding.
Does anyone have or know of a release? If you could uploaded a comparison screencap that would be even better.

Pic related: Episode 05, 10:29
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>>102203291
>>102203195

That's just a codec difference. They both look terrible TBH.
Anyone have a non-Elysium screencap?
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Elysium is shit, avoid them whenever possible.
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Use Cman you dumb fucking nerd
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>>102203837

screencap homo?
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>>102203892
It's just five gigs, it takes two seconds if you haven't got third-world-tier internet
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http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/39770
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>>102203195
What the fuck is banding?
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>>102204693
[a-s], not even once.

Watermarking, broken subs, and untranslated lines. Worst release ever.
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Cman vs Zurako vs Thora
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>>102206039
Cman
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try thora
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>>102206886
thora no II season
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what's the best version for archiving? Cman doesn't have 1080p
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>>102207131
Raws 4 u
Comes with subs
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>>102207202
>frostii
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>>102207544
what?
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>Spends more time comparing releasing and muxing MKVs than watching anime.
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>>102207963
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>>102207963
i think I might just download all the possible releases
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>>102207131
Is this shit even more than 720p?
I don't think so, just download the best 720p, idiot.
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>>102209115
raws4u 1080p look pretty fucking good
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>>102209115
yes it is
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>>102209410
Whatever, then, but I hardly believe there are no good 720p encodes.
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>>102209632
cman
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>>102203195
AsianDVDClub has the full BD images.
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>>102203195
Coalgirls
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>>102210165
that looks prety good
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>>102210165

Shit, didn't realize Bloatgirls did spicy wolf. That screencap looks great. Thank you for uploading.
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>>102210935
Score, 1 petabyte per episode. Super high quality.
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>>102211052
It's only 10GB
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>>102211112

21.8GB if you want to download 1080p like a non-plebian.
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>>102205605
Oh god, I had that release, couldn't read it sometimes when there was say, a school uniform under the text. that was annoying.
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>>102211176
the 1080p version is only 10GB
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>>102211176
>1080p
>for a digital TV series not made in last two years
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>>102211260
From Coalgirls.wakku
"Ookami to Koushinryou II 1080p Blu-ray 21.8 GB"
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>>102211274

Even 16 year old 1080p upscales look fine.
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>>102212566
I mentioned digital for a reason.
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>>102212566
That's not an upscale, idiot.
>>102211176
This series is not made in 1080p, idiot.
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>>102212739
yes it is retard
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>>102203837
>>102206207
>>102209680

Cman, pls go.
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>>102213208
cman has dual audio
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>>102213267
Only faggots care about dubs.
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>>102213311
the dub is good
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>>102213267
Then remux.
>>102212943
No, it's not. It's not a digital anime and it got a BD release.
Spice and Wolf was not made in 1080p.
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I download the raw BDs on ADC. Watched with the gradfun filter. No banding, highest quality.

You could try playing back with the gradfun filter which will pretty much get rid of any banding.

I don't know how to do it with other media players, but if you want to use mpv (pretty sure mplayer/mplayer2 have it too), just play it with

mpv --vf=gradfun anime.mkv

Or you could just stop caring because banding really is not that big of a deal.
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>>102213528
are the ones on ADC the Jap BDs released by pony or the licensed english FUNI ones
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>>102213447
>Spice and Wolf was not made in 1080p.

Not him. But spice and wolf was released on Bluray at 1080p.
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>>102213614
That doesn't mean anything.
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>>102213607
They didn't have official english subs, and they were fansubbed (yes you can actually do that with BDMVs) so I assume they were original jap BDs.
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>>102213614
And that's an upscale, my dear ignorant anon, and most likely a bad one.
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>>102213614
Shit, anon.
How new?
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>>102213696
raws4u 1080p, download and see for yourself.
They look neat, and the subs are alright
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>>102213681
Except that the master they released was 1080p so it's 1080p?
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>>102213782
But that's an encode, not the actual BD rip. That may look neat but in no way it would be better than a good 720p encode.
>>102213797
No.
Prove this bullshit.
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>>102213911
No no anon, just download and watch for yourself.
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>>102213696
>>102213737

Fact 1) You do not know at what resolutions spice and wolf was worked on digitally.

Fact 2) The master they released was 1080p, it was created with the intent that it was going to be put on a BD at 1080p, not created before BDs were really a thing, it's not a bad remaster or simple upscale of older material. I trust that the studio knows what they're doing.
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>>102214007
>Fact 1) You do not know at what resolutions spice and wolf was worked on digitally.

Are you trying to prove us wrong or yourself?
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>>102214070
You don't.
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>>102214097
Neither do you, you fucking idiot.
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>>102214140
I never claimed to, unlike you.
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>>102214007
Hahahahaha, holy shit.

Learn something, retard:

http://ultimatemegax.wordpress.com/2012/11/28/animation-quality-and-anibin/
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>>102214191
>hurr it's mastered at 1080p
>hurr FACT: YOU DON'T KNOW THE RESOLUTION
>no I didn't say that

Okay.
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>>102214007
1) anibin rated it at 1280x720

2)
> I trust that the studio knows what they're doing.
Hahahahahaha. Ha.
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>>102214260
It's a verifiable fact that it was mastered at 1080p.

You do realize the master is the content that was put on the bluray and shipped to the public right?

>>102214207
This is ridiculously fucking inaccurate and silly.

The simple way an anime was drawn/colored, regardless of resolution, could make it fail these "tests".

>>102214274
See above.
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>>102214449
>It's a verifiable fact that it was mastered at 1080p.

How about you support that claim with some verifiable proof?
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Is it always better to download the BD release if you have space?
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>>102214507
>How about you support that claim with some verifiable proof?

I have the feeling you don't know what "master" means. It means the video content put on the bluray which will be duplicated and shipped to the public. The content on those blurays are 1080p.
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>>102214726
I have the feeling you don't know what 'verifiable fact' means. It means that you should be able to show other people that you're right
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>>102214676
Well duh. A BD holds more data than DVD or any other format anime is released on.
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>>102214676
Is this even a question?
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>>102214449
>You do realize the master is the content that was put on the bluray and shipped to the public right
And?
It was not produced at that resolution. They upscale your stupid master, retard.
>The simple way an anime was drawn/colored, regardless of resolution, could make it fail these "tests"
Gain some experience and check any 1080p BD rip, idiot, you'll see that they will be upscales 99% of the time.
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>Elysium
Hope you like warpsharp, fucked up colors, and re-encoded share raws. They're worse than fucking coalgirls.
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>>102214869
>you'll see that they will be upscales 99% of the time.
If it's a digitial anime.
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>>102214951
Yeah, sorry, I forgot.
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>>102214782
Literally all blurays are 1920x1080, even 4:3 shows they have to hardcode black bars into the sides to make it 1920x1080.
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>>102214898
But the only problem with Coalgirls is the file sizes, if you can even call that a problem.
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>>102215077
Studios upscale their shit to sell BDs to stupid people like you, what's so hard to understand?
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>>102215117
It's only a problem for poorfags.
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>watch a downscale of an upscale that will be upscaled or an upscale

download the raws
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>>102215117
They also don't do any filtering, and pay little attention to typesetting.
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>>102215077
>Literally all blurays are 1920x1080
Oh wait, you are serious? Let me laugh even harder.
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>>102215077
Holy shit, stop embarrassing yourself any more.
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>>102215077
Look at FLCL BDs, I bet you'll think it's a legit 1080p BD too.
Fucking retard.
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>>102214869
> They upscale your stupid master, retard.

I am aware that's what you are arguing, not the other guy who was arguing that the master was not 1080p though.

>It was not produced at that resolution.

Does your dad work at Kyoani too?

>Gain some experience and check any 1080p BD rip, idiot, you'll see that they will be upscales 99% of the time.

What I see from my opinion is that they're mostly all remasters of older content, or they were 2006/2007+ anime where they might even be downscaling what they have in the studio to 1080p.

i've rarely seen shit which is obviously an upscale without even remastering. For example chobits.
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>>102215256
Downscale the upscale with debilinear and upscale it with spline or whatever you'd like.

>>102215293
>They also don't do any filtering
Go away daiz.
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daiz please respond
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>>102215347
>or they were 2006/2007+ anime where they might even be downscaling what they have in the studio to 1080p.
Watch some Nyaruko S2, which is one of the few series actually made in 1080p. If you aren't blind, you'll stop spewing such bullshit.
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>>102215256
"Raws" are not raws, ignorant. Transport streams are raws and they're shittier than a good encoding.
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>>102215307
Yes, they are.

>>102215346
I actually have them and they literally are. Even though they're 4:3 they have to hardcode black bars in to make them 1920x1080.

Whether or not you think the studio upscaled the content they were working in production to 1080p is arguable, the video on the bluray release being factually 1080p is not.
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DAIZ WHERE ARE YOU

MY GOD, MY GOD, WHY HAST THOU FORSAKEN US
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>>102215521
Can this be considered shitposting?
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>>102215521
>has FLCL BDs
>thinks they're legit
You're a lost cause.
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>all this autism and lack of communication
The two sides of the debate are talking about different things and both are right in what they are saying.
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>>102215510
stop
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>>102215347
>or they were 2006/2007+ anime where they might even be downscaling what they have in the studio to 1080p
What?
No, they don't produce digital anime at more than 1080p, there wouldn't be any reason.
TV anime is almost all produced at 720p.
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>>102215721
No, you are wrong.
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>>102215721
Nigga, I'm the Master of communication.
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>>102215725
No, you.
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>>102215741
I never said they produced anime at higher than 1920x1080.

Talking about the resolutions they digitally worked on it at. Which is at most a best guess for both me and you.
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>>102215721
I majored in Communications I think I know what I'm talkiing about
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>>102215942
>majoring in communications
Do you at least have a job on the radio?
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>>102215896
>Talking about the resolutions they digitally worked on it at.
It wouldn't make any sense to upscale 720p to 1080p for BDs if that was the case.
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>>102215721
I am the great communicator. You are a class A faggot.
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This thread is great for a good laugh.
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>>102203407
>That's just a codec difference.

png one also seems to have broken levels / black crush.
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>>102203195
>>102203291

Try Yabai's. It has details. Pic related, suddenly there's a door.

Just under 7 GB, 720p.

>>102210165
>Coalgirls

This looks warpsharpened. I can tell from some of the pixels and from seeing quite a few warpsharpenings in my time.

Also looks like their filtering relentlessly smashed all background detail.

>>102203837
>>102204693
>>102206207
>>102209680
>>102213311
>cman

Disgusting oversharpened halofest.
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>>102218712

Either everyone else in this thread has really broken playback setups or Yabai's and Zurako's are the only decent encodes of S&W II.

Here's a comparison between those two.

http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/62960

8bit 720p 7 GB, and 10bit 1080p 17 GB, respectively.



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