Fuck yeah Akira Ishida Edition.
Next time Kaworu shows up in Eva I probably won't be able to take him seriously anymore.
Really strong people are getting turned into toys.
No, really, it's fine.
They are all plot fill
You thought Toei would step up their game for Dressrosa? Here's some epic sign staring filler and Sanji being a retard.
Leo will fail, half of the team will be turned into toys, they have no chance against Trébol.
Suddenly Hakuba awakes and massacres Trébol, Ussop then can shoot that spice ball into Sugar's mouth.
the anime is so shit it makes me sad
I'm still mad Oda shitted on Cavendish just so he could get him involved in that shitty factory fight with Trebol/Sugar.
I really like Ideo's color scheme
Cabbage was always destined for comical status. Such is the life of handsome.
So the newest episode sucked, as they all will. What was it, like 3 minutes solid of slowly showing all the fighters and Luffy before they actually react to him wrecking Spartan?
They always fill in as much time as possible with redundant shit.
It doesn't help that Oda is a lazy bum who takes regular breaks
What dissapoints me most is that they don't even bother to detail scenes like this anymore. You just don't feel any impact from this, it's so underwhelming.
>this shit again
Plus he dodged like four different his from Spartan which totally ruined it, he should've just thrown him on the first in slowmo.
I'm going to guess way into to the future and say when Hakuba is revealed they'll extend that portion so that Rebecca dodges him for a minute or so.
Best part in the last 2 weeks:
>Zoro oneshots Hody in the manga
>Epik longwinded battle in the anime
>where Usopp dives several times to scream ZORIIIIIII
Why doesn't One Piece just stretch around the planet so that he can pinpoint where the treasure is?
>Akira Ishida in muh One Piece
Barto better be Sugita.
One Piece can only stretch 50 gomu gomu
Hiroshi Kamiya, Akira Ishida, and Sugita in a single arc?
I can't take it.
Also, who's Rebecca?
Never mind, I just checked.
Barto is Showtaro Morikubo(Yosuke from Persona 4), while Rebecca is Teh Rei.
Barto will be voiced by Shotaro Morikubo and Rebecca by Megumi Hayashibara (Rei, female Ranma among others)
So, we have Kaworu and Rei in One Piece. Nice.
I can't even think how badly they're gonna mess that up, along with other things.
Are they still doing .5 chapters per episode? I thought the first couple of Dressrosa's episode had that terrible pacing.
The anime is like 20 chapters behind the manga now, Toei are going to ruin the fuck out of Dressrosa.
>that stupid Sanji and Violet scene
Way to make Sanji even more pathetic than he already is
30, and there's a lot they can extend as filler-like without being too annoying, lots of talking about the history of Dressrosa and the dwarves building up their plan and such, plus just extending the coliseum battles, though I'm guessing they'll make the parts that shouldn't be longer longer and leave the major points the same. ie Luffy will take forever to take out the giant and Don Chinjao's duel will not be flushed out at all.
They should animate the rest of the cover story. It's not like they aren't important to the plot
almost good, but still pretty low effort.
Do Carbibou's, that shit is worth 2 years of material.
>teh Rei voicing the worst character in this arc
Do you think that Donquixote Doflamingo has an ultimate string form? Kind of like Gamagori from klks whip form cept without all the self punishing.
What does the OP anime say about this man?
>implying the worst character is Doflamingo
What a fucking let down he was supposed to be some cool headed big bad and he just loses his shit when he discovers luffy isn't in the ring
Doffy is great, he is only cool headed when everything is going as planned.
What the fuck are you talking about
Every time I check the anime to hear the new VA I get depressed. Don't get me wrong, the VA are always top notch but the animation...
The sound direction, pacing, animation, art, fillers and colors have all been shit since the timeskip.
Just wait another 20 years until they make a One Piece Kai.
Daily reminder that Luffy is gold roger
You didn't watch DB Kai did you?
So why did toonami start one piece so late into the story?
>since the timeskip
It was shit way before that
I sure didn't
>Such high profile VA for Rebecca
I agree, but I understand Toei's situation. I mean it's not easy to produce a whole episode within a week and that's over years. They must work fast and cheap, well and that's the result.
Anyone BUT Rebecca, even Spartan is a better choice
They could just go on a break like Oda does
But nope, muh money
By that logic, Hancock should've joined because Sailor Moon voices her.
well time is money
I bet Oda is frustrated over the "quantity > quality" situation too, but that's Toeis fault
Fuck you, I want another pair of tits on the crew.
I'd like another girl, but Rebecca is a boring Nami faced sword user.
What if Zoro fights Issho and gets defeated not killed, defeated) Kine'mon comes in and takes Zoros place and dominates the fight between him and Issho. I think this idea would be cool because Kine'mon despite his goofy as fuck personality is shown to be a very powerful samurai.
So, Cavendish is not voiced by Miyano? I thought it would be him since he's a huge One Piece fanboy.
Kin'emon lost easily against Law, there's no way he's Admiral level.
I'd like a Zoro & Kin'emon vs. Issho fight
It makes more sense imo
>Tragic flashback involving someone close to her dies
Rebecca is nakama. Deal with it.
Shit guys this is just like Shabaody
>Marines, Admiral and Shichibukai vs Strawhats and some other guys
This is the perfect opportunity to show the Strawhats shine
There are a few characters with such histories, but otherwise there are many other factors and for some reason some people here are actually becoming the residents of Dressrosa, maybe that's why they forgot about Cabbage.
That would be pretty cool.
Together the fight would be pretty even
Dressrosa is an orgy between a bunch of previous arcs
We don't even know the full details of that fight. Kine'mon can't use haki so maybe he was defeated by ceasar.
I agree though that if he lost to Law he must be pretty weak since Law is one of the weakest pirates in the entire one piece series
They completely missed that chance when they just went straight to Dressrosa.with only that lousy 2 episodes long filler.
In honesty, Caribou's adventures would have maybe only taken three epsiodes. But still, at least plot related.
Was Caribou's cover story even over when Punk Hazard ended in the anime?
they should have done a Four episode Caribou filler
They should have actually done a buggy filler, that would have been better
We actually got the Buggy filler back then.
Two episodes, I think.
God, why didn't they just keep doing this? Fucking incompetent Toei.
I mean a new Buggy filler that didn't appear in the manga
What Buggy's doing will be some minor reveal, and I doubt Oda will let the anime do it.
Otherwise it could be completely unrelated. Maybe showing Buggy and Crew treasurehunting shortly before they met Ace?
Well shit I guess Shirahoshi and her brothers are gonna join too
The issue of Poseidon is unresolved with Caribou's cover story ending. Her brothers are actually actively a part of ruling the kingdom so they would stay, kind of a shame as we never got to see much of merman combat, though its probably very similar to fishman karate.
Who would win between Crocoboy and Bob Lucci?
could lucci haki or store water in his body?
Maybe if he was camel zoan, otherwise, croc boy wins.
I don't think Crocodile's weakness to water would be as apparent as the Alabasta Arc made it seem.
I would guess by now he's learned haki, rokushiki almost seemed like it was something of a shitty version of it or something. If he did happen to figure out the liquid weakness he could use a bit of his own blood like Luffy, or just with his speed grab a seastone item to beat him to death with maybe.
so i just purchased this on a whim last night
Looks like low quality
I have nothing against the design but the fabric is most likely 100% shit
Who would win in a fight?
Zoro or Tashigi. I'm serious. I want to know if theres actually people who think tashigi could win
like $26 off of ebay
Honestly at this point i care more about the koala sabo robin luffy reunion after arc special when we find out what the one piece is
Its really hard to have a reunion between Luffy and Koala considering they have never met.
I think he means Robin and Koala.
One Piece power levels are weird
There's no way Alabasta Crocodile could keep up with Lucci but then at Marineford he kept up with both Dofla and Akainu
its explained as when he was in alabasta he lost all is motivation and was a shell of his former self but when he had a chance to fight whitebeard again during marineford he regained his former strength
robin/koala, luffy/sabo is what i meant. I always look forward to the after arc hangouts/information giveaways
dreams are you're power source in OP That's why he didn't job at MF
Also, I hope Mr 1 has so god tier CoA
>Law is one of the weakest pirates in the entire one piece series
"Your" sorry, iPhone autocorrect and I don't proofread shit
he is. He would lose in a fight with Jinbe who doesn't even know haki
BB refused to take Jewelry Bonney on his journey for being too weak.
Would he disown Jesus if he loses or would he just consider it "fate"?
Or maybe Akainu and Dofla are slow
>in line for one of the 4 highest ranking positions in Dofla's crew
>one shot a VA in full nigger mode after getting his heart back
So will the manga have decent fights ever again? It's just so disappointing how terrible it's become
Atleast it doesn't really look like its from an anime.
Jesus is one of his ten division commanders, no way would he just drop him. I'd guess that he'd give a fate like response.
If Luffy stronger than any of Blackbeards men?
I can't wait till sabo or jesus gets the mera mera no mi.
you dont get trained by the right hand man of the pirate king for 2 years to come back a bitch, he probably couldnt be blackbeard but he could beat jesus
No they are all invincible and will never lose.
Luffys probably the same strength as Jesus. Hes definitely stronger than the doctor guy or Von Auger.
You do know Doc Q is physically strong right?
It's not like Sabo is a small fry. He himself had trouble with Ace.
>mfw when i look up One Piece clothing all I get are women's bathing suits
Are there any truly weak (major) characters in the New World?
You'd think that with five minutes of opening credits they wouldn't have to drag out the anime so much so that it's unwatchable. The anime should just take a year long break for the manga to go ahead enough that they can have decently paced episodes.
I wonder if BB flag got a redesign
>implying law and cavendish are weak
He may be a coward, but Pop Greens are strong as fuck.
That dude took a full hit from Chinjao without a problem.
Nami has been shown to leave lumps on Luffy and Zoro
Tashigi is a valid argument
I also forgot
That giant who was in the Colosseum
yeah those are called jokes anon, nami is weak as fuck
It's only just struck me how fleeting the SH's interaction with the BB's has been.
Even Luffy has only seen him twice.
Screw the new loli
This will always be the best one piece lolo
girl didn't even have a devil fruit and she 1v1d luffy
chinjao would have won if it wasnt for luffy
nami and chopper still suck
but nah robin is strong and brooke is even higher
you have to add something specific like luffy or trafalgar law, or look up one piece anime clothing or some stupid shit like that
>implying she can't rage haki
Shes smart and she provides an important resource to the crew (as do Nami and Chopper) But holy fuck she is not strong at all.
Usopp was supposed to represent the average human I think, though that was an interview from long ago so maybe Oda changed his mind on that.
As far as physically weak, maybe Caesar or some that might rely on their df's too much.
Being able to use CoO at the New World 'level' kind of makes Rebecca perhaps somewhere just below the supernova's in strength, without CoA she's basically Brook except without a df power.
you dont run from the government for 20 years and be a top tier assassin by being weak
ok you can fuck off with that pedoshit
haha not you guys.
how long since last break oda made before the recent one?
during the chrismas break where jump was off for two weeks, oda had another week of break after it
And back to Arlong Park you go
A month? Before that he took them every three weeks. It was pretty regular.
doesn't oda have aids or something?
one piece is a lot better with power levels than some lower tier series like fairy tail
>villain with unimaginable power
>all of fairy tail about to be wiped out
>natsu defeats enemy effortlessly in one shot because muh friendship
He does take breaks somewhat regularly now, though that may be the editors making him after he had a throat problem or something.
well that's a great song at least, how considerate of them to put the lyrics in spanish
0:26 Tiene novio? - Does she have a boyfriend?
0:32 Pata negra - Black foot
They use things like Tenroujima to explain it though
fairy tail a shit
Miss Valentine remains my favourite female character.
Wish we got to see more of her.
she was sexy as fuck. oh well i'm sure she's turning tricks and sitting guy's faces for money somewhere in the one piece universe.
Anime faggot here
Is that boxing king fodder or no?
I'm a boxer myself and it'd be nice if Oda made a competent boxer
Imagine if Mr.5 got strong enough to use haki. Haki infused air bomb bullets.
all attack and no defense makes him a bitch
He holds up well (ends up being one of the last 4 in the ring) but gets OHKO'd to make way for the main fight between Luffy and Chinjao.
Anyway, read the manga asshat.
he's fodder but he's fodder with a purpose. he'll probably teach luffy some super haki death punch before all is said and done.
>anime faggot here
Read the fucking manga
imagine if mr 5 was competent and saibaman suicided on people but remained unharmed himself
Ahhhh shit I thought he was talking about that other guy my mistake.
Yeah he's powerful as shit, but there's a drawback to his power.
I'm not a nerd
READ THE MANGA NERD
except he is the 2nd man standing and fights bart
I loved ms valentine myself, she had a pretty scary and useful imo, wish we had gotten to see more of it
The dude had a self destruct move, just imagine that
full haki body explosion, I think he would be a crazy ass opponent with haki
I made a mistake, I thought he was talking about that other boxer guy with the big shield things on his shoulders.
scary and useful power*
also they all work at a cafe now its hilarious that mr. 5 became a fireman as an explosion man
Where do you think you are?
>implying fairy tail isn't one piece with dragons
FT has pretty shitty writing, but muh fanservice.
So did he rape Whitebeard's corpse or something
>Not getting the Galley-la shirt
He is with me and I agree.
its much shittier then one piece, everything boils down to muh final attack and there is no adventure and fun there is just fan service and shit writing
Still best One Piece girl.
He had a spare piece of fruit and he ate it.
>not boa hancock
My headcanon is that Dofla got mera mera because he had some apples with him for post-war snack and he just sorta got lucky.
It was clearly not this. If it was he wouldn't have had his crew cover them with a black cloth.
Hey, this is subtle enough, I would buy it.
goldenweek's power was broken as fuck. if she had haki she could easily become the pirate king
I always thought that Mr. 5 had the most potential as a Devil Fruit, but he was way too cocky and uncreative to use it.
The fact that any part of his body as well as any secretions he makes explode when struck quickly is ridiculous enough. Just imagine if he learned to spray his spit like fire breathers do, holy shit.
>much shittier then one piece
Is then vs than really that hard of a concept to grasp.
My guess is that the yami-yami is what allows him to steal devil fruit powers.
That's why he was so keen on it.
He needed time since WB was his first target.
Was it a devil fruit power?
Also explosive piss
If it was anything other than this I would be pissed.
Native speakers are retards
>effect vs affect
>should've vs should of
>then vs than
>your vs you're
It was a pretty sick power but like it seemed to only work against weak willed people or dumb people, so that's really the only reason she was beating zoro and luffy lol
still not being a devil fruit power its a pretty sick power
This seems like the most likely theory. Maybe there's a limit to how many he can steal, so he thought fuck it might as well steal the strongest man in the worlds power.
The pissibilites are endless
It is true. Black Beard wouldn't want people to know how he's going about killing people for their powers or everyone would start doing it.
ad hominem mofucka
true it could be like perona's ability.
Who would win in a fight, Borsalino or Foxxy?
It actually wasn't
think of her power as jango but with colors
she uses the power of suggestion of to control someone
she was one of the 2 baroques without powers
>effect vs affect
This one is more or less tolerable since it is so little used
>should've vs should of
This shit is cancerous and any offending party should kill themselves
>then vs than
>your vs you're
The problem isn't native speakers, it's just uncultured assholes who can't be bothered to crack a book. Seeing this shit in subs and scanlations kill me though.
I have this in a different color and only one person has "got" it so far
>have usopp's kabuto eat the slow slow fruit
>usopp can now fling projectiles that slow everything they hit for 30 seconds
the straw hats are now undefeatable
>This one is more or less tolerable since it is so little used
It isn't really. And it's like everytime someone has to use it, he uses it wrong. It's not that hard.
And those uncultured swines are almost always, if not always, native speakers.
Arms on that blond girl are more terrifying
that actually sounds pretty fucking awesome
works for running away too when hes in a bind
slows all of his bullets, shoots off hundreds of bullets that all fling out at once
We still don't know if objects can "eat" fruits apart from Zoans.
I like that image.
actually with his new plant bullets and shit
imagine how terrifying it would be like he would slow down the hatching of the seed and then it goes into the enemy or on the enemy and just sprouts
shiiiiiit nigga that's incredible as well. you could shoot seastone blankets from every direction and defeat any fruit user instantly.
It's really annoying. The episode 2 weeks ago was pretty solid, and this weeks episode was utter shit.
The Smoker vs Vergo fight was one of the best fights in the anime so far, but at the same time they release cringeworthy shit like Zoro vs Monet
It's so fucking inconsistent
>slow down hatching of plant
>place seeds in sugar's grapes
>sugar literally explodes as her guts as projected in every direction
god damn that's terrifying
>The Smoker vs Vergo fight was one of the best fights in the anime so far
No. It wasn't better than most fights before the Timeskip
Everyone knows FT is nothing but fanservice, stop acting like you're calling something noone has the balls to say. And, >>102213640 argument was not an ad hominem, since he wasn't attacking you're argument, but your lack of grammar skills. Had anon presented his argument as "this motherfucker can't into english, therefore his argument should be discarded." Then you could call it an ad homimen. But as were the case, He was just calling you're grammar shit. Which, objectively speaking, it was. Also, by calling fallacy you only contribute to the shitposting in this thread.
You are doing that on purpose.
His kabuto has already been shown to have some level of free will, like a sentient fly trap.
also on the subject of fine girls in one piece
I would still miss doublefinger
What annoys me is that the dials have just been phased out of existence. They can be used to make some creative weapons or other utilities, but after skypeia and just sticking them in nami's and usopp's weapons they just disappeared. Usopp didn't even make something that could absorb the shock from the impact dial to make more use of it.
>since he wasn't attacking you're argument
>He was just calling you're grammar shit
>Which, objectively speaking, it was
I'm not even the guy you're talking to either, so calm your tits in advance.
In other news.
Does anyone know enough famous jap actors to speculate on the identity of Green Bull?
I've seen a couple of Zatoichi movies and to be honest I'd be a little surprised if some anon hadn't put his name forward as a contender for an admiral spot back when we were still speculating.
So surely there's another famous one worth mentioning.
Have they ever been mentioned after that one SBS where Oda said that tone dials are like CDs now?
Well, they are kind of exotic and rare. I could see Bellamy using one.
Who hopes that gan fall and eneru will make a reappearance?
This is a very subtle bait.
them dick sucking lips unf
Gan fall no, but Enel yes. I want him to deus ex machina in all over the place and then be like oh shit strawhats
>not Wiper or Nola
no gan fall will definitely show up at the war in the end siding with the straw hats
Why on earth do you think so?
What was the point of Bellamy saying he's been to Skypiea when it's appeared in cover stories as still being fine?
mrs valetine a qt3.14
Bellamy going to Skypeia is the event that caused him to rethink his "dreams are bullshit" deal.
Taking the pillar goes to show he's still a douche...not to mention a Dofla cock riding faggot.
Back when One Piece girls didn't have incredible sameface
First meeting in Jaya, this >>102209629 (Unless you count theese two as one time)
and in Impel Down.
I want Bellamy in the crew
He must have counted them as one.
Did they meet in Marineford?
I can't remember. Or was Luffy already knocked out by the time he arrived?
Luffy was already knocked out.
He pulled WB's long hard dick out and started sucking it to absorb his devil fruit
Luffys side during final war:
>Straw Hat Pirates
>former roger pirates (Rayleigh, the doctor laboon guy) minus buggy and shanks
>Mayor from the beginning of the series
>Skypean white berets with Gan Fall
> Anti Hero Marines (coby, helmeppo,Smoker, Tashig, and Kuzani)
>Wiper and Nota
>former CP9 agents (Lucci, Khalifa, kaku, Jabra, Blueno, and the others)
>eneru and the moonpeople
>Boa Hancock and the Amazon ladies
World Government Side:
>Ryanakyu or w/e
>10 shiploads of marine captains and commadores
>all the vice admirals
Reminder that all of Doffy's crew are his nannies and playmates from Mariejoa.
Oh I didn't know we were counting headcanon as actual canon
Few of those have any reason to fight with Luffy. You can't just list people Luffy has helped and claim they'll sail to the most difficult part of the world to reach to help him.
I forgot on Luffys side the Alabastian army, Fishman army, and the former whitebeard pirates
Any speculation as to who the mystery shichibukai is?
because oda said it was going to end with a big war so its obviously going to be strawhats and allies against the world government
red hair pirates
all of alabasta
all of skypeia
all of drum island
corkus and laboon
some of the giants of elbaf
dressrosa as well as the dwarves
gladiators for dressrosa like chinjao
possibly doc croc
mountain bandit village luffy is from
bartolomeo and his crew
shakky and silvers
the entirety of water 7 (iceburg, shipwrights, frankys crew)
prisoners of impel down (like mr 2)
island chopper went to
island usopp went to
johnny and yosaku
pretty much all fishman if fishman island and jinbe are on his side as well as an ancient weapon
prisoners of thriller bark (lola and crew)
You didn't have to post your silly headcanon teams again anon
That's Sir Crocodile to you.
An entirely new character.
Another supernova would be too stale and I see no other contenders.
Some have suggested Marco as a result of needing protection without WB but I imagine they're with Shanks now.
He's only just collecting his allies now though. Bartolomeo and Chinjao have explicitly donated their forces to Luffy.
its not headcanon oda said that the series was going to end with a giant war and those are people that have said that they are allied with strawhats no matter what, while they may not go fight in the war they are allies
It can't be anyone from the Whitebeard pirates since it's canon that it's the guy who mercilessly ruined Z's day. The events of Film Z wasn't canon, but the characters and shit were. The seventh schibukai is Gin
Since Kuma is also a Shichibukai how about Sabo?
You can pull "Oda said" all day but Oda never SAID Luffy would take teams to war. Just because Luffy helped them once also doesn't really make them allies, or anyone who would want to go to war for his cause.
>those are people that have said that they are allied with strawhats no matter what
No, those are people who Luffy has helped on his adventures. Very few of them have said anything at all about helping Luffy. I mean seriously, Johnny and Yosaku? They just fucking parted from the crew after Arlong Park saying they were going back to hunting small game. Why the FUCK would they find themselves in the New World?
God damn take this shit to fanfic forums.
I hope not, same schtick would be too boring
Remember when sanji lost to gin?
obviously you two are retarded, i said they are allies, not that they were going to the grand line to go to war, does not stop them from being allies asshats
God damn no wonder Z was pissed if he cut his arm cut off by a fucking lead pipe.
>i said they are allies, not that they were going to the grand line to go to war
>its obviously going to be strawhats and allies against the world government
No, obviously you are the retarded one, posting your list a hundred times, arguing over what an ally is.
>God damn no wonder Z was pissed if he cut his arm cut off by a fucking lead pipe.
if his arm was cut off by*
You fags are forgetting that the guy who ruined zs life was a devil fruit user
just cause you are allied against the world government doesnt mean you have to sail to the grand line and go to war anon
The crew aren't organized enough for any kind of allegiance from anybody.
I would prefer it if the WB Pirates had kept their name in honor of their father, and I certainly can't see them joining forces with the man that wrecked their shit and killed their brother. I agree that's it's either a new character or Foxxy
what are heart pirates anon?
oh yeah i forgot that they were in an alliance
They probably just gave the pillar to him, thinking he was a friend of the strawhats or something.
Yeah because that was anything real at all. Not only was that just Luffy being strung along by Law's keikaku, but Luffy never said anything at all to anyone ever regarding allegiances. All that shit starts in the New World. He put his flag up on Fishman Island, Bart and Chinjao just gave him their forces. Shit like that is where Luffy's accidental military might will come from. And I mean seriously, Luffy's allies in the war WILL be accidental to him. He never meant anything by putting his flag up except hoping it'd stop people attacking the island. He doesn't even realise that he's now in control of Bart's gang and a god damn navy.
duval offered his army to Luffy as well
just because they arent going to war doesnt mean they arent going to be allies anon, you seem to not understand that. you seem to think that if they go to war that alabasta wont be rooting for them? those are allies anon.
When he shows up again what is he even going to do?
He's just a captain so he probably has to work under a VA in order to explore the new world.
Even with super Garp training I think the power gap he needs to overcome is just too large.
At most we'll see him get a victory over some mooks.
Would you miss monday?
I don't really miss Mondays, no
He has to get a fruit to be really strong. I don't think he's a Haki expert, and he won't master it in little time.
I think there'll be another timeskip before the end. Everyone is still too weak compared to what's further ahead. That or training arcs.
I can see Luffy getting some sort of powerup like Gear 2nd or 3rd soon
some serious shit is going to happen with coby
He just got CoA. He must have some trick he hasn't shown, he hasn't had a close fight since the timeskip, and I doubt he'll create a new ability now, having not created anything in the timeskip, it would be very asspull-ey.
If there is another time skip, I'd consider dropping OP. That would be way too simple of an answer. I want some pain and heartbreak to make the SH crew pull themselves up by their boot straps. The powerlevel shouldn't be increased off panel again. It'd lack depth and just be a flat note.
was meant for
We've not even seen what he's capable of so far.
>The powerlevel shouldn't be increased off panel again.
I think it's a better option than sudden power ups that come out of nowhere.
Since he's been trained by Monkey D. "Fruits are for Faggots" Garp I don't really see him getting a fruit. Though it's not impossible.
Given that he learned Gepo + Soru in just the time since he met Luffy I would imagine now Roukishi is his fighting style.
Also he has had two years to improve his haki.
I think he's probably got the fundamentals entirely down.
Realistically what he needs is a win.
All he's done so far is run into Luffy's fist.
We need a way to gauge his progress other than his progress's speed.
Which is why I am counting on oda's story telling to expedite the SH growth as opposed to the fastforward button
The reason Garp has no fruit is because when he was offered one in celebration of his promotion to Vice-Admiral, he responded to the question "Fruit?" with "FUCK NAW DOG I AIN'T HOMO", and just hasn't come across one since.
Well, I at least hope time passes during the story. FI and PH happened in one day didn't they? That's kind of shit.
>Spending 2 years training so you can reach Raftel in a week
I own a "MARINE" shirt and everyone keeps asking me if I served in the navy equivalent of my country.
That could have been Law
pacing wasn't the best, but it was necessary. as long as the arcs take, I'm not sure we could have handled a longer story. Also, I think FI was two or three days and then PH almost immediately following, then a day and a half to Dressrosa.
They sailed the first half in a few weeks
I'm waiting for this one in the mail, I can't wait. but
When are we gonna see full power strawhats danget
Luffy didn't get much stronger besides his Gears. He's not in any position to take on the world in his current level.
Can't wait to see full bodied busoshoku haki Luffy in gear second or third.
He'd be just like Ace
Dude just spent 2 years training his godly haki with the right hand man of the pirate king.
This arc would have been top tier if it wasn't for the retarded Rebecca and Dwarves storylines.
You won't be saying that when the Rebecca and Dwarf shit ends up overthrowing Doflamingo and Kaidou shoves his veiny cock up the young master's ass.
>not corkscrew cock
>impyling you wont cry bitch tears the moment all the toys turn human and their families all cry remembering them and make this the best arc ever and praise our lord oda
"Hello? HELLO? Alabasta? Yes, this is Monkey D. Luffy future Pirate King speaking! It's time for the Big War! I knew this day would come. Because I once saved your asses please kindly assist me by sending the entirety of your island to defend me in battle! Thank you! Oh, and tell Skypeia, The Baratie, Cocoyashi Village, Water 7, Okama Island, 'island usopp went to,' and Drum Island the same thing."
Why can I imagine that happening?
I really thought the Dwarves and Soldier were alright for setting up Operation Fuck Doflamingo, and did a lot for giving Rebecca some backstory, but ever since Sabo came back in, it's so goddamn obvious that he's going to get the Mera Mera, that there's really no point to Rebecca anymore unless Oda does another 180 and lets Rebecca turn into the Human Torch after the Toy House breaks down.
Personally, I'm just hyped to see how Luffy vs Doflamingo's going to go down. Dressrosa is turning out to be Alabasta 2: Here Comes Some Shit, so part of me wants to think it's going to end up as good as Luffy vs Crocodile.
He appeared to awaken the insane type of CoO, being able to hear as people got taken out, iirc only Enel and Aisa were able to do that in Skypeia, the rest were just using basic CoO to predict attacks.
Yeah his seems to be different. He can literally hear their cries and sense the pain/agony, seems on a much higher level.
I could see him just being insanely skilled but not super powerful.
That was just his CoO awakening. Shitty time to have it happen but that's how the cookie crumbles. The Doc post MF battle treated it like it wasn't anything special.
Also, why do people think Cavendish is going to show up and beat the shit out of Trebol and Sugah? He's a toy and can't do anything but what his contract says.
>Also, why do people think Cavendish is going to show up and beat the shit out of Trebol and Sugah? He's a toy and can't do anything but what his contract says.
Because they want his D.
he is still a toy that must operate under the contract sugar put into him. He is no unconscious, have we seen any of the toys sleeping? If so, then maybe her power won't affect his sleeping self since Hakuba does not have a contract. But, from where I am sitting, Hakuba is just Cavendish sleep walking, and regardless of that he is still Cavendish in toy form. And so far, only toy Soldier has been able to defy the contract.
I can see it now, the grape thing's going to fail, Cavendish is going to get knocked out from Usopp, Robin, and Trebol fighting, and Hakuba's going to break out of Cavendish's toy form and scare the living fuck out of Sugar.
There's no other reason Oda would've wrote this personality quirk onto Cavendish without some important use later on.
Why is G5 so shitty? Aren't they supposed to be the marine branch of the New World?
I think they were supposed to be the branch of the disciplinary problems. Just cruel individuals and shit. If they were more than fodder they wouldn't be nameless schmucks
Alabasta owes a big oen to Luffy, though
We still don't know how his double personality works
That's definitely going to get the country in trouble with the World Government when Vivi and Cobra spout off about how cool he is at the next Reverie, same with Dalton and Riku once Doflamingo gets his shit kicked in.
The New World's going to get real interesting real fast.
imagine if shaft made one piece
That's my point
Implying they would ever animate such a long work.
They'd give it an original ending
Irrelevent, it was stated by Bastille that it was Cavendish sleepwalking, regardless of it being another personality all together or just a reflex, the thing in question is whether Sugar's ability (either toy or contract) applies to the body or to the mind. If it is to the body, Hakuba is still a toy. If it is to the mind, then we may see Hakuba in action yet.
That's from Bastille's pov/knowledge. I support the theory that this personality switch is caused by the cursed sword (and I believe Zoro's Asura is his cursed sword too). But hey, it's a theory
Zori considers the 'curse' just the sword being somewhat unruly/uncontrollable and felt a similar wildness from Shuusui. Law's sword is also cursed.
/r/ing good images of Hannyabal or Magellan.
I got to the part where Magellan said "you better not die, you're the only one who can take my place" and cried.
>dat Hannybal speech just before Zehaha wreck his shit
It's those moment when you truly realize that Luffy is right when he says he is not a hero himself. What he did was fucking selfish and bad for the world
No they're not.
Not everything in One Piece is based on strength.
Why are these threads full of terrible posters?
Are people uploading and translating the colored versions?
most posters are shit, it's up to you to find the gems you like.
And thoughts on Green Bull? do you think he'll be a zoan to complete the Logia, Para, zoan combo or do you buy into the Space themed admirals theory?
>Not everything in One Piece is based on strength.
Who the fuck cares about fighting?
Have you noticed that fights in One Piece last about 4 chapters at most?
God I can't wait for the Reverie. Reunion with Vivi and such.
They even said that it doesn't mean much in a fight
Also, "not everything in One Piece is based on strength" isn't the same thing as "nothing in One Piece is based on strength"
Get your shits together, /a/non
I really hope it was a horrible buggy-related misunderstanding
They're still being used by Usopp and Nami's staff uses Dial technology.
What is Aokiji bullshitting about Robin being able to get away from CP9 on her own. That is a lie if i've ever heard one.
No it was a couple of months
She managed to escape everyone her whole life, I believe it
Doriki will never be relevant again since Fukuro was the only person who could measure it.
That is because sanji is heavily injured by pearl before fighting gin.
It felt like I was reading "Hogwarts D. Saul" for a moment. Then I thought of RPG time and chuckled.
what am i doing its too fucking late at night
Robin definitely would have find a chance to escape if she really betrayed the strawhats and use them as tools.
A lie? Why?
those numbers didn't tell us anything we didn't already know. luffy is always the hero, zoro and sanji are about even, and the rest is a toss up.
Im just counting down until CP0 steps in and ruins everything.
Battle royale between the three original admirals.
Who would win?
Honestly, could happen. She really the only one that fits the bill right now even though most people ignore/forget about her.
Kizaru, of course
Except she's going to live with her father and niece. The dwarfs know she's a "good guy".
The only person left without a place to go is Bellamy this arc. And he has the greatest chance in joining.
So is Cavendish joining now, too. His VA much better known then Rebecca's.
Honestly the only characters kicking around right now with enough depth and attention to potentially join are Kinemon, Violet, and Bart. Sabo is obviously important but it wouldn't make any sense for him to join the crew for multiple reasons.
Characters like Cavendish and Bellamy would need to receive a fuckton of attention before the arc ends if they're going to be considered for the position. The main drawback is their personalitites-- they don't fit in the crew anywhere and wouldn't make for interesting members of the main cast unless they get some serious positive development soon. Shit's starting to go down hard and that's looking less and less likely.
Rebecca is of course the red herring of the group, the new Vivi. She's received plenty of attention and is likely to get the development required (not that I like her much personally), but she has no reason to leave dressrosa and nothing of value to add to the crew (Unless you count shitting on Sanji for being the new CoO expert)
I see it as
That being said, if any character besides Sabo or Burgess gets the mera mera they instantly skyrocket to the top of the list
You do realize Bellamy is definitely going to get "more positive development" when it comes to light he's the one that showed Luffy the way out of the Coliseum?
Bart will continue to be a cheerleader, Violet has already had her major development, ditto for Rebecca, Sabo has his own shit to do, and Kinemon is to involved with Kanjuro, whatever is so special about dragon-kid, and Wano's problems.
There's no doubt Bellamy will be redeemed this arc, that's obvious. But there are several other characters who by necessity will get a lot more attention than he will, and the window for him to do relevant things has essentially already closed. It'll be pretty much all combat from here on in and he lost (badly) to fucking Dellinger, what can he do against the relevant characters? Best case scenario for Bellamy at this point is that he'll join the Barto Club and show up as a secondary ally later on.
No. Doflamingo will lose his status as a shichibukai because of all the shit he's pulled on the island, which means all his crew will be hunted by the marines.
Absolute Justice won't let Violet escape just because she left his crew. She'll be hunted down unless she joins someone who will protect her; Sanji.
Absolute Justice won't be able to catch her due to her DF ability. She'll go on the run, but won't join any pirate crew. And Sanji is headed to another fucking island.
in all honesty if kizaru actually gave a fuck and tried he would probably win
>Going on the run alone
She is not Robin, that would be hard for her, even with her fruit. Also, if she is going to go on the run, I bet Luffy will offer her to stay with them. And bitches can't resist to the D
>She won't go with the Strawhats because she'll be living with her father and her niece
>She'll go on the run
Make up your mind. Her father will send her off with Luffy, saying it's not safe for her to stay here any more, etc.
>she is not Robin
No, she's probably stronger than Robin if she's been on Doflamingo's crew in the New World and can apparently avoid everyone on his crew while on his island.
Avoiding ennemies when you go from point A to point B is one thing, but having to live like that for your entire life is something else
>people think a Violet, a person who can 4000 km in all directions and can read minds is going to join the Straw Hats
There wouldn't be any fucking danger and Oda isn't going to give Sanji a romance with a crew member. You guys need to stop thinking with your dicks.
She's omniscient and is apparently quite friendly with the dwarves.
Anyways I get the feeling this discussion has devolved into some stupidity, Viola was never a wanted pirate, Doflamingo was already a shichibukai when he took over, thus when she became his underling she gained immunity.
Plus I suppose it doesn't seem like she ever left the island much, her ability is more useful for them just watching the citizens. Not much for them to give her a bounty for.
>Using Diarrhea as a weapon.
He would be immortal.
>people think a Violet, a person who can 4000 km in all directions and can read minds is going to join the Straw Hats
>There wouldn't be any fucking danger
But Doflamingo won't have immunity anymore because of what he did WHILE he was a shichibukai. Therefore, Violet will be wanted for taking part in that
>Violet is safer without the Straw Hats
Thinking with their dicks would be more Rebecca probably, though /a/ has become the Dressrosa citizens.
For some reason its not fully translated yet, but I took a peek at the raw sbs for volume 72, someone asked if Rebecca wears a loincloth or nothing under her armor, Oda kind of dodged the question but thought it was a good dream or something.
There's a difference when she can actually see the fucking danger instead of just a needle pointing somewhere, you fucking retard.
And Sanji won't get a serious romantic interest among the crew.
meant for >>102235575
and luffy is going to want to head straight for it faggot
As far as we can tell she didn't do much pirating under him or anything that would warrant much of a bounty. He was acting as a king too. And if we're to keep going further back he's a world noble but for some reason doesn't consider himself one anymore.
>Violet can pick out the best adventure for Luffy
She's his most wanted crew member.
She can work for the WG if she likes afterwards, the reverie is this year and with Doflamingo ousted the Riku family would be attending instead.
He still wants a statue, I wonder if he's going to steal Kyros's after this.
Well, now that I think about it, she did make a deal with the Marine, so I think she is clean
Rebecca isn't joining anyone, she wants to be with toy soldier
Violet and Bellamy will both join Law's crew
What if Rebecca sexually likes Toy Soldier? What happens when she realises that it's her father?
That might have been a lie just to get Sanji to leave. She was supposed to head to the bay but went to the palace instead.
Also WG's power supercedes the Marines and the WG for now supports Doflamingo.
She obviously doesn't.
If Bellamy is joining anyone's crew it is gonna be Barto's.
Everything is a lie, Luffy doesn't want One Piece, Ace isn't dead, Blackbeard is Roger.
I really hate the idea of having another CP cell. It really cheapens CP9, IMO.
Ah, man, I got a color one for my friend for Christmas. He fucking loves it.
You do realize there were several other CP cells introduced in that arc, right? Members of CP8? Did you think they just got the 9 because it was cool?
There's no way Bellamy even came close to defeating Wiper
There are 8 normal Cipher Pol, a secret one and one for the celestial dragons. Not really a big deal
Had to explain how he bought his way back into Doflamingo's favor, as I recall he just stole a golden pillar so probably the one abandoned after the SHs ran off with treasure.
Hell maybe they tossed it off their cloud and it landed on Bellamy thus his extra scars.
has there been any talk about the celestial dragons? it seems like every single one of them are complete assholes. i know theyve been around forever and the ones now are just descendents but what exactly did they do to earn that status?
The celestial dragons are the descendants of the 19 families that created the WG. Vivi's family could have been one of them but they chose to stay as the rulers of Alabasta instead. Doffy is also a celestial.
>What exactly did they do to earn that status?
The current ones? Nothing except being born in the right family
Ex celestial you mean.
>what exactly did they do to earn that status
They're descended from the 20 kings that founded the WG. However, the Void Century being covered up at all throws doubt on the legitimacy and reasoning behind the foundation. CD's are their descendents, they're royalty and treated liked kings because that's how royalty used to work.
I know about the 8 other cells (duh), I must just feel like all the pomp and circumstance that surrounded CP9's special clandestine and powerful status has been watered down. I feel like now CP0 is being reintroduced the exact same way that CP9 was. I think maybe I'd like it more if the members of CP0 were introduced as a more powerful, reformed CP9.
Jaws just going through some old archives checking out past One Piece predictions. What are some of your past predictions? Which ones came true? Which ones fell flat?
I predicted Sabo was dead and never coming back.
Boy do I feel silly.
zoro has a hawk eye, dont know if its true yet though.
I was just going through some old archives checking out past One Piece predictions. What are some of your past predictions? Which ones came true? Which ones fell flat?
I apologize for deleting the original. I had to edit.
There are some people who still hold out that he's dead so you may have a shot.
i would have preferred if he had stayed dead.
I swore to god that Paulie was joining the crew. Fuck.
After that was proven impossible, I predicted Franky would join, but that he would bring along all his friends and boost the crews numbers
I originally thought that Kuma sent the strawhats all to the same location after Saobody and that Rayleigh would coat the ship and bring it to them.
I was hoping for Kaku at first since he was the first one of the shipwrights they really dealt with.
Holy shit, me too. I was even more convinced when Kuma whispered in Rayleigh's ear. I thought he was telling him where he sent the crew.
Did anyone else think Dadan was a man before she was introduced? I thought for sure that Luffy was raised with Dadan and that Makino was his daughter.
I predicted Gedatsu would kill himself on Skypeia because there was no fucking way Chopper was gonna beat him.
But then I also predicted that the Going Merry was gonna somehow be repaired. I was devastated when they burned her. It still hurts.
Do you mean that he took one of Mihawks eyes?
no, more like an ability he has almost mastered. like becoming a master swordsman would give him the eyes of mihawk. It probably wont happen.
That didn't even mean anything in the arc in which it was introduced
>But then I also predicted that the Going Merry was gonna somehow be repaired. I was devastated when they burned her. It still hurts.
i dont feel as bad when that happened i felt no attachment to that ship.
Supernova Battle Royal.
Excluding Zoro and Luffy, who would win. They all have pretty decent DF powers, but I think I have to go with Eustass.
i really like laws power it seems almost unbeatable
I remember seeing a theory that the reason his eye is closed is because he's only half-sleep and when he fully wakes up he's gonna unleash his full power. That shit would be awesome.
Three top dogs are the captain class types; Law, Luffy, and Kidd.
The others are good as well, but who knows if they have the same level of deterination.
You heartless monster.
thats interesting, but why the scars? Just to look cool?
chill man its only a ship i would gladly give up a ship rather then endanger my crew.
Luffy and Zoro are excluded.
His power does seem hax, but it can be overpowered. He could probably take out some of the weaker guys like Urouge and Scratchmen, but I could see him being overwhelmed by Capone.
I never understood why people thought he was dead. I don't know how it could have been more clear he wasn't.
If it didn't talk t them I might not have taken it so hard, but seeing this page made me come apart.
Wasn't San-san pushed into the water on reverse mountain? I didn't see any way he could survive that.
>Hey Rebecca, join my crew
I cant, I'm heir to Dressrosa
>You know you want to chase Doflamingo, cmon
Give me back my father's statue
>Then be our nakama
>Robin: If I can be a little rough. Dos Fleur: Grab
Lol I guess. He could be pulling a kakashi and using it to reserve power. I doubt that, though. I can't wait to see some backstory on his training.
You're thinking of an anime only character. I forget his name.
i guess? i really didnt care for the ship, i mean if i was ussop then i can see why he would be sad seeing as his waifu back in his home island gave him that ship or rented whatever. but anyone else no.
We don't even know half of what any of the supernovas can do besides law/luffy/zoro. From what we've seen though Hawkins could do pretty good if he had a lot of dolls to expend.
Eric. The dude Nami kicked into the water, then commented on how he has a DF and can't swim, and they all laughed about it because now he's going to die.
Drake seems really weird having that high bounty but his power is zoan type, so he can transform into a T-Rex. i mean what else can he do?
We have a pretty good idea of all of their abilities. We know enough about Eustass, Drake, Urouge, Hawkins, Killer, Capone, and Scratchmen. The only person we really haven't seen in action is Bonney.
We know what their abilities are, but we've barely scratched the surface. The majority of their abilities are still a secret.
>a fucking t-rex
thats pretty much the top of the non mythical zoan fruits i'd say.
Bounties are based on two things, strength and threat. He was a former rear-admiral and he defected for some reason. His night bounty could be like Robin's in that he knows something that could be a serious threat to the WG.
But the reason the 11 supernova are so infamous to begin with is because it's stated that every major event that has been happening since their rookie year 2 years ago had something to do with one of them.
If people without devil fruit can make it in the big times, why not someone with one of the best (so far) zoan? It greatly increases his physical strength.
I predicted that Ace was gonna beat one of the Admirals after he was freed. I've never felt so stupid.
>I predicted that Ace was gonna beat one of the Admirals after he was freed. I've never felt so stupid.
this is kinda cool which admiral did you think he could beat? also i think everyone thought he had plot armor.
How powerful Hawkins is really depends on how is ability works. The process and limits will dictate what kind of fighter he is. We don't really know that yet.
YO! ya-yo, ya-yo
You weren't alone. I like to look back at old chapter threads on some forums for a laugh. Pretty much everyone thought plot armor would save Ace. Slightly less through he would be the next nakama too....on that score I'm not hoping for Rebecca. I'd rather her father join TBH the crew has enough useless pairs of giant tits. I liked Nami and Robin but one got slutted up and the other nerfed.
Toy soldier is far less likely to join than Rebecca. I just can't see any way he would leave Rebecca behind to join pirates unless she died and we all know that isn't happening.
Before Duval was unmasked my failed prediction was that he was really Don Krieg.
I was sure it was gonna be Kizaru because he was so smug and the smug ones are always the first ones to go. I learned my lesson the hard way.
Oh I can't argue probability on it. I know her or, god forbid, Kin joining is far more likely I just don't want to see it happen. I'd rather have the Toy...well he'd be a human by then presumably.
Honestly I don't really want any new crew members besides Jimbei. I think they have enough and the focus will get split. I'd rather they gather allies than permanent memebers. With so many crew members you see less of each one and get to know them less. You see less of the world around you and less of the arc characters who are typically great.
Don't forget about his transformed monster form.
He's her father, he just wants her to be happy and for the moment is resigned to the possibility that he may not survive, thus why he even bothered to train her.
I know what you're saying about probability, but I was saying that I don't think there is any way that Toy soldier could die.
Lol the Duval predictions were so stupid. I remember people thinking it was Spandam or even one of the Mountain Bandits from the 1st chapter.
That one was really more of an intentional red herring than a missed fan theory. Oda really hyped the Krieg possibility.
Really? I think the exact opposite. The fact that he's has been foreshadowing his own death leads me to believe he's gonna break before he transforms back to a human.
Probably just the helmet, he didn't wear as much armor as Krieg and Krieg in general was never really cut out for the Grand Line.
I just don't see it ever happening. He wouldn't leave Rebecca and shes obviously not going to die. You'd have to have a good reason to get them to split up.
Well he's been through a lot. Maybe after everything calms down in Dressrosa he'll want some time away. He's not royalty so he has no real obligation to stay after he puts Rebecca/Riku/Violet on the throne and Rebecca is happy again. I could see her leaving given that the citizens have hated her most of her life and though they might suddenly realize they were tricked...well I wouldn't want to stick around. So if she does leave I just hope it's not on the Sunny Or at least not for good.
Kin is okay but wow do I hate his kid. I hope they stick around until the inevitable Wano arc then bail after doing whatever they went out to do at Zou. I figure Wano is Kaidou's territory and maybe after Luffy beats his ass that will change and Kin will stay to ease the transition.
Theres no way hes going to leave Rebecca after he finally gets his real body back and she regains her memories of him.
That depends. We don't know if when he changes back and she remembers her father the man if she will remember her protector the toy....what will be left for him once she is happy, and hardly knows him at all?
Some parents might leave if they feel a different calling, ie Yasopp.
We can't be too sure what his history was before he became a toy, most likely the gladiator Kyros, and he seems quite determined at the moment to fight to the death.
What site did you use ? I want one too
I figure he's ready to die for his cause. What happens when he gets what he wants but is still alive....is he ready for that?
Imagine he turns human and Rebecca's memories of him as a toy fade to nothing all she has is some hazy recollection of her father...what she hasn't blocked out from the trauma of her mothers death. His daughter doesn't know him, he isn't royalty, arena is shut down to allow the nation to heal from it's brutality brought to light, his daughter can be happy and safe....what's left for him.
Without Rebecca needing him to be happy or safe....what's left.
Theres nothing to suggest that they lose memories of the toy lives after they change back.
What do waiting for the chapter ?
Seems unlikely that they'll lose memories of the people as toys. Otherwise Rebecca would probably leave anyways, the country was mostly a place of resentment from the citizens.
Momo isn't kin's kid, we've been over this
Fap, send CVs, train, read some Hajime no Ippo
Wano is supposed to be strong enough to be independent of influence iirc, I don't think its under any yonkou's control.
If becoming a toy makes people forget you as a human then why wouldn't returning to a human make people forget you as a toy?
Yeah that was just a poor choice of words...how about ward or charge or whatever. I've never really bought the father-son thing, but for the purposes of my original post all I wanted to say is that he's annoying as fuck...regardless of who his father is or isn't.
There is literally 0 reason to believe Momo isn't his kid
One would assume its her ability that takes away memories, the ability cancelling shouldn't suddenly also take away memories.
Those are actually good ideas
Well the Marines never had as much control of the NW as they did Paradise right? Akainu is moving in now with his more aggressive Marines, but the NW is still probably mostly territories belonging to or under the protection of one Yonkou or another. Not being part of the WG and Marines being afraid of you doesn't put you out of reach for an established Yonkou.
Who knows though. The samurai could be so fucking OP that not even Kaidou's crew can capture and hold it or maybe the island is of no tactical value...IDK.
I'm just thinking that Kin knows about Kaidou that's for sure, Yonkou territory isn't WG territory by definition, and most of the NW is Yonkou territory.
given that they hide it, it must be something that exposes a weakness in him, or something that, if the other side saw, they could duplicate.
I'm actually betting it was some crazy organ transplant shit.
Well I guess we will find out soon enough...well after this Tabasco grape swap plan fails miserably.
Hmmm well if that's the way you see it. I just think that Sugar never touches everyone and makes them forget just the person they are forgetting. Like it's a side effect of the transformation. Whats to keep that memory loss from happening again. She didn't have to activate her power on all those people affected the first time.
It wouldn't make any sense for the spell to wear off and they forget everything from when they were toys.
You remember that anon. Keep that fresh in your mind for when Wano comes.
Makes as much sense as everyone forgetting them when they turn into toys if you ask me. Sugar doesn't touch everyone to alter their memory just the subject. I don't see why it's so unbelievable that it might happen again when it's "undone". As far as we know nobody had been turned back into a human from a toy. All the talk of how people will remember could just be guess work by those involved.
Also just to be clear as your post is oddly phrased. I'm suggesting that others forget the toy not the toy forgets being a toy.
Well that may be, but for now what indicator is there that they aren't father and son?
No, it doesn't make as much sense. Losing their memories as a toy makes sense because then no one will miss the toy, obviously if you revert the effect you revert all of the effects.
Makes as much sense as them being forgotten in the first place.
The person stopped being human and is now a toy, but Sugar never touched those who forget. Why would people remember the toy when they are returned to human for if they didn't remember the other way around?
What aren't you getting?
>Sugar turns them into a toy erasing everyones memories of that person
>When shes defeated the effect is reversed
depends. whats his bounty?
because it's been outright stated that that will happen.
Before you ask me for a citation it was one of the faeries in a recent chapter.
Momo is clearly the son of the shogun. The games he plays with the crew, his importance to Doflamingo, even the way he speaks, ect ect. Kinemon is clearly not the shogun. He's probably just his bodyguard that was supposed to get Momo away from a besieged wano
Yeah so you revert the effects and go back to as it was when they are human why would memories of the toy have to come along with it. They didn't transfer before. Think of the memories of the human and the toy as two separate things. When the human becomes a toy the human is forgotten because they don't "exist"anymore. When the toy becomes a human and the toy no longer "exists" why should memories of the toy remain when memories of the human didn't?
Wait "nobody will miss the toy"? Mind clarifying that. If nobody misses a toy why would they remember the toy when the human is returned?
This is not theorycrafting, this is fanfiction.
Stated by people who have no way of knowing. Has Toy Soldier or the Fairies ever observed someone being made a toy and then a human again....would they remember if they had? If being made into a toy and then back erases memory both ways where you can only remember either the human or the toy not both how would anyone know if it had been done before....a gap when the victim is inexplicably absent from memory? What if it was for a short time.
The Fairies and TS have no reason to be experts in how Sugar's ability works.
>implying it won't be 10 hours of people looking at newspapers and saying "Luffy."
>the anime makes it 50 hours because why the fuck not
Yeah effect is reversed so you go back to remembering the human. How does that guarantee you remember the toy? It could just be a gap in memory.
Because the spell had nothing to do with the new memories, why would removing a spell like that remove memories that happened after the spell was cast? It just doesn't make any sense.
>Wait "nobody will miss the toy"? Mind clarifying that. If nobody misses a toy why would they remember the toy when the human is returned?
While they are still a toy nobody remembers them, so no one thinks to look for the person.
It doesn't guarantee, but theres no logical reason that it would erase your memories and it hasn't be stated either.
I see what you are saying now, but I remain unconvinced that it is as concrete as you would have me believe. It depends on how you choose to explain the process and we don't yet understand how it works well enough to say which is right for certain.
It could be that the spell has no affect on new memories, but I don't see how you can be absolutely certain it works that way. To me it's perfectly reasonable for it to be more a state of being that alters the memory rather than a one time spell. You either remember the toy or the human, but never both.
You're overthinking it for no reason.
Seems logical to me. We don't know what it is that makes people forget. No reason to think it's one way rather than another.
>mfw bellamy uses a reject dial on doflamingo to finish him off
Its not that my way is concrete, its just that yours has no basis at all. Its still possible but theres no reason whatsoever to think so.
Or you are blindly accepting the red herring Oda wants you to. We all think that one think is going to happen, and then BAM. Plan doesn't go according to.....plan for the rebels.
>someone using dials again
Fucking Usopp, why didn't you use them more?
When he first showed up I was sorta hoping he would have some dials. He's been to Skypedia afterall and his DF could likely neutralise the adverse recoil of the reject dial allowing for continued use.
Gotta say I never did understand why you could just stack two reject dials. Let the second absorb the recoil of the first. Well giant spring arms should be able to shoulder the blow.
either shiki or a brand new character. he's the only person i can see who meets the requirements
1) swordsman who is strong enough to beat a marine admiral (he cut off Z's arm)
2)had an active pirate career around the time Z was an admiral
3) meets both those requirements and isn't already a yonkou
There is as much reason to think so as your way. Which is to say none. The word of those who can't possibly know....that's not a lot to go on.
It was directly stated by a character in the manga and its likely true. Plus, it logically makes sense that you would regain memories. Theres no reason it would erase your memories of being a toy.
>asking for the help from an army whose elite got jobbed by robin in her introductory arc
There is no reason memory of you as a human should be erased either. It's useful to the DD Family no doubt, but how do you see that side effect tying into the hobi no mi? Or do you see it as a separate power that she has...I don't see how that could be. What about turning into a toy makes people forget you exactly?
Lota of times characters are wrong about the way things work.
Well anyways I got to sleep. I imagine we will see what happens in the coming months.
You're trying way too hard to make it work bro, it just doesn't make sense with what we know so far.
The Marines have a fuckton of fodder, why wouldn't you want your own army of fodder so the strong can focus on the strong?