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The Poll Results from this Week:

1. Krusty 158
2. Shiroe 150
3. Rundelhouse 133

1. Lenessia 234
2. Akatsuki 231
3. Isuzu 104
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Krusty x Lenessia confirmed OTP

Shiroe x Akatsuki confirmed OTP

Rudy x Miss Isuzu confirmed OTP
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>>102187137
>These amounts of votes
I bet only 20% of these were unique voters.
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>>102187341
LH threads is a newfag haven. The poll is probably posted in other forums
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>>102187432
>other
>forums
Your new is showing.
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>>102187137
b-but how about Shiroe x Nureha ?
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>>102187137
Anon confirmed for 100% faggot.
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>>102187077
That was a good episode. I felt like it was the episode where LH finally crossed over from "SAO genre" to being a genuinely good fantasy setting of its own. Shiroe's saving everything quest could of felt shitty or self-inserty, but it didn't, because it was properly set up by the mage guy earlier. And Rudy is a cool dude. I hope he doesn't forget a lot of stuff about Miss Isuzu, that would be quite sad.
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>>102187077
Who's this harlot showing her panties.
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>Raynessia with the Demon Axe
Must be a wooden replica
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>>102195918
Maybe she does a jewdeal with Shiroe
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>>102195918
Does she even have a comat class?
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>>102196025
No.
She's just a little girl.
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BAHSAHKAH baseball
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>>102196688
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>checking pulse with your thumb
Really Shiroe? Didn't they teach you anything at school?
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That asspull in episode 20 was bigger than SAO. I really liked SAO. The asspull in SAO was explained perfectly but in LH it was
>If people can cook I can bend the rule of the world

SAO was better. In SAO they explained all of their shit. The action was good. Kirito doesn't need a whole army to solo low level stuff. Why do you even play a MMO if you can't solo like Kirito.

The romance in SAO actually went somewhere. They got married and have a daughter. They also have their own house and went fishing to bond. Not like LH where the fuckin romance was implied but never shown. Romance doesn't need 10 episode just to show it. It only needs 2 episodes.

The world building in SAO was also great. Especially in the second game. They explained the game once and never bring it up every episode. They only bring it up when it was required. In LH what do you know? Absolutely nothing. They explain it little by little and bring up every shit in every episode. They don't even explain how they got into the game and how to get out of it. They just say
>You are trap in a game
>Deal with it

The characters in SAO was also great. Especially Kirito. His characterization was so deep. He is a beater who knew sadness and always help people without needing a reason. All the characters like him. His sister was also a great character. She fought with her own self so she would not fall in love with her own oniichan. Finally Asuna. She went from a badass to a loving wife and mother. SAO has a lot more characterization than LH. Shiroe was just some random nerd that doesn't like being in a guild and apparently evil. Akatsuki is just a ninja body guard. Rundel haus code is just i want to be an adventurer. Isuzu is a sexist. Tohya is with his I can walk shit.
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Deko-chan a love.
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>>102196731
>Batting with an axe
That's bullshit and you know it
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>>102196812
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>>102196812
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>>102193665

He'll forget stuff from his childhood, which Miss Isuzu isn't going to be happy about.
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>>102196812
Completely agree 99.999...%
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>>102196812
Jesus Christ my sides.
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I hate the way they are going about Krusty and Reynessia. Its like every scene they're together shes watching him and then queue the inner monologue "He looks happy while fighting, but hes so sad still. He must need a girlfriend." every 5 minutes. When are they going to stop beating around the bush and actually progress on their relationship? Why the fuck has nothing happened between Shirou and Akatsuki besides "S-shukun!"

Granted I don't want them to focus on the romance like SAO fucked up with, but lets stop skirting around it.
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>>102196812
>If you are under the age of 18, or it is illegal for you to view the materials contained on this website, discontinue browsing immediately.
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>>102197088
But he looks so lonely and sad, anon!
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>>102196812
This is so satirical it's genius.
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>>102197088
It's a fine line, and every person places it at a different location.

Akatsuki gets more serious in Volume 6, and I seem to recall that Meaty Combo gets more serious in 7 or 8. Nothing so far on the Barbarian and the Priestess front, but that's because the former disappeared in the Goblin King Raid.
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You people need to stop seeing Log Horizon like they have "entered the game".

That world evolved into something else and is not bound by the rules the game had.
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I want to fuck lenessia so bad
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>>102196812
I almost thought you were serious for the first 10 words or so.
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>>102197280
why?
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>>102197260
Well I don't like how the rules are constantly brought up in their favor, yet many things are overlooked at the same time. They keep jumping between game rules and reality.

Why aren't they making guns? Guns would work better than swords, even magic swords against unarmored opponents.
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>>102197317
Why not?
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>>102197345
Please no more of the gun debates. Mamare already said that you can make guns but you need to be like level 200 to equip it.
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>>102197260
It almost seems more like the world of Log Horizon is slowly merging with the real world, given flavor text becoming real, the Half-Gaia scale growing into Full-Gaia, and average cooking skill of non-chefs improving.

>>102197345
Because the stat system is absolute. A gun of one item level will do the same dps as a bow of the same level. If you want a gun that does a realistic level of damage to 90s, it would have a level to equip of probably 200, and guess what, it won't do that much damage against other 200s.
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>>102197345
How would they even find the materials to make gunpowder?
I'm sure they have tons of saltpeter lying around right?
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>>102197449
>Can't even justify it
Good luck getting a waifu with that attitude
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I want to fuck Serara so much.
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Forgive me for being retarded, but I can't get my head wrapped around this. I understand that Rudy joined the LH guild, but how does that relate to him becoming an adventurer?
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>>102197857
Let's make a deal
You suck my dick and I'll make you live, how about it?
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>>102197642
>implying gunpowder would do more damage than a level 90 berserk demon axe-wielder
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What is wrong with you guys? Stop watching this shitty anime. Watch something like Sword art online instead. The mystery in SAO is much better than in Log Horizon. SAO actually has character development and plot progression. The action and music in SAO was awesome. Kirito was not as gary tsu as Shiroe. Just you wait until season 2 starts. A lot of people will say SAO is better than LH in story telling and everything else.
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>>102197950
The contract didn't mention anything about reviving Rudy, only terms about him joining the guild, so how the fuck did he turn into a adventurer?
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>>102198047
Stop being underage.
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>>102197088
Krusty probably knows she has a thing for him, he just doesn't care enough and just wants to slaughter things.
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>>102198053
Basically he made a deal, if he entered in Log Horizon he'd become an adventurer basically
Making him an adventurer made him resurrect at the cathedral
>So how the fuck
Scribe lvl90 magic contract
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>>102198147
So by entering LH, you automatically become an adventurer?
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>>102198047
Why doesn't shiroe have a black trenchcoat instead of his crappy white cloak? It would even make a great contrast with his name.
Why doesn't his staff have blades that extend out of either end? Glowing blades. That make a VOOOM sound. It would really help his support role if he could cut enemies in half.

Really, SAO is just so superior to LH that it hurts.
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>>102196025
Monk, so she can do moe thai
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Do we pretty much know everyone's real life profession now?
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>>102198053
>only terms about him joining the guild
Because Lander can't join guilds only Adventurer can, if you can join guilds = you're an adventurer.
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>>102198207
I think it's more like that if you sign a fuckin' high-ass-level contract that implies you'll need to become one, you will.
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>>102198207
No, you become one by being a player
For landers it's signing a contract
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>>102198207
In the contract Shiroe did? Yes
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>>102198053
A paradoxical contract that could only be resolved by rudy becoming an adventurer
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>>102196746
>skool
lel I need only 4 letters : MMORPG
>>102196812
>Why do you even play a MMO if you can't solo
You silly devil ruseman.
>>102196826
Stop being a pedo
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>>102198239
>>102198244
>>102198252
>>102198258
>>102198343
Oh ok, thanks for clearing this up, have an Akatsuki
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>>102198207
More like if you sign the high-level contract then everything written on it will become reality.
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the first few battle scenes with shiroes group seemed baby in comparison to crustys badassery, i hope we get to see proper archmage-action soon even though he's a support class
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>>102198252
In all logic, isn't it the same for the players? They "signed" the contract before making an account then you can play elder tales.
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>>102198409
Which is why I dislike how little information or thought is put into something like this.

Was a max level scribe required? Was top tier ingredients required, or could any old paper work? What is stopping them from doing this in mass?
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>>102197857
I'm not sure, but I think it was to act as a precaution to ensure his revival worked.
They needed something to effectively enforce his new status as an adventurer, so if he were drafted into an Adventurer's guild, it would serve as a second layer to the adventurer conversion, so to speak,
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>>102198473
The only way to test this would be to go out, kill some landers and then offer them contracts to join guilds made from varying levels of ingredients.

So they're probably trying it somewhere, but Shiroe likes to avoid Mengele-level science.
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>>102198440
That's a raid for ya
>>102198470
Yup, like having to register for something, you always "accept" the terms and conditions of something
Not that most people read it
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>>102198216
>>102198392
>>102198047
>>102197280
>>102196812
Is this place infested with underage and/or newfags or is this some quality* shitposting? Because if so than this is incredible. I'm genuinely impressed.

*quality = used very serious
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>>102197088
there is no relationship. even the sister thing might just be something made up by krusty. most of his actions were already dictated by shiroe during their meeting before barging into the nobles crisis meeting.

krusty is supposed to get on nessas goods site, shiroe is supposed to be the villain. this is to make her easier to manipulate. there isn't much else too it.

shippers are dumdums who didn't read the novels ahead, or already read em but were to dumdum to realize this. nessa at this point might as well as be some teenage girl fantasizing about fucking bleiber
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>>102198473
That's means testing, testing means Lander guinea pigs, Lander that Shiroe thought as human.
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>>102197235
>Not being animated.

I'll say it again...

Akatsuki spinoff when?
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>>102198623
Oh yeah tough guy, tell me what the real deal is then.
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>>102198695
Never
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>>102198623
>krusty is supposed to get on nessas goods site
This is just accidental, Shiroe never told Crusty to get into Raynessia good side.
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Friendly remember that SAO had a 10 time better setting and would have been great if the author wasn't completely retarded.
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>>102198695
>Every issue is just a few pages of akatsuki sitting quitely in the background while shiroe does stuff.
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>>102198560
It's been plaguing the last few LH threads. I tell you what though, this guy's dedication impresses me.

Sure I can believe someone would be a fan of SAO and harbor the thoughts he presents to us. But no sane man would attempt to shove it down our throats every thread.
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>>102198746
>Non-novel reader detected

He did actually. He knew they could manipulate her into forging relations with the landers in the future.
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Why do the villain characters wear glasses?
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>>102198810
>I'm just manipulating you, it's no like I like you or anything baka!
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>>102198833
Since when are you under the impression they wear glasses?
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>>102198774
The only time she's on screen she's either told to do something off screen, or staring longingly at Shiroe, begging for interaction.
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>>102198833
The better question is why doesn't every character wear glasses?

And push them up at the same time.
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>>102198833
Why are glasses always associated with intelligence instead of just bad eyesight? They have nothing in common.
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>>102198746
no man, this was straight up stated during the festival arc. they want her to turn to krusty for support while shiroe plays the antagonist role. it's also why shiroe fucks around with her when the westland noble comes to make fun of her during the festival
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Will we ever see Rudy being a total badass again?
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>>102198771
Nope, the SAO game was terrible. Elder tale was and will always be the better game.
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>>102196812
I'm dying inside. I'm literally tearing up. Mostly because it reminds me of myself back when I started. I don't like being reminded of how I used to be.
Hell, I even keep a piece of paper where I judged (you know it had to be this one) Naruto, of all the stupid shit just to remind myself to never become something like that ever again.

God. I want to kill you so much right now. Shitposter, copypasta, newfag. Doesn't matter. I want to kill you so badly.

Too bad I'm a lazy cunt.
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>>102198950
Because /glasses itjust is.
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>>102199026
When he casts punch again
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>>102199026
Nah, I think he was neutered.
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>>102199073
>punch
>not fist

you had one job
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>>102199028
>Unoriginal elf raping, glasses adjusting, fire shooting WoW-like shit
>better than virtual reality swordsmanship
U gay
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>>102198800
Yeah, I have seen his post in every recent threads. He changed the post slightly every time. He must be really dedicated.
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>>102199107
Gotta hand it to him.
/glasses adjust
He couldn't foot the bill.
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>>102199159
>Wanting game with no magic
>No range attacks
>The only thing that isn't shit is the virtual reality
No man u r gay
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>>102199159
I'd rather play The World.
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>>102199159
>elf-raping
>glass adjusting
>fire shooting
>WOW-like
>shit
>implying all of these are a bad thing
Captcha: orypon convinced
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>>102199028
>>102199159
Are you two retards seriously comparing Ultima Online to The Matrix and arguing which one is the better game?
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>>102199347
>WOW-like
>implying implications
No, this is pretty definitely a bad thing.
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>>102199300
The World is boring, it only have good visual.
>>102199287
All the greatness of the game is that there is none of those over powered magic shit so it's more enjoyable as a virtual reality. It's like playing berserk.
Casting stuff and waiting is fun for 2 minutes but it don't make a great game.
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>>102198958
It was stated that Shiroe is artificially playing the antagonist role, yes. It does not say whether Krusty is artificially playing a role as well, or if Shiroe is just taking advantage of a relationship that formed naturally, because sasuga black heart glasses.
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>>102196812
>Isuzu is a sexist.
>Tohya is with his I can walk shit.
Fuck
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>>102198697
very little. most of it is just onesided relationships

>akatsuki admires and loves shiroe
>minori admires and loves shiroe
>henrietta admires and loves shiroe
>shiroes wants to fuck henrietta, but that's low on the priority list compared to muh politics aka preventing any shitstorms and finding a way back to IRL

>nessa admires krusty
>a bunch of the women in his guild probably does too, but it isn't highlighted
>krusty just wants to have fun and beat raids

>serara admires and loves nyanta
>nyanta just wants to chill, only got caught up in this shit at all because he wanted to check the expansion

obviously the people who have it well off irl like nyanta don't care and people who logged on just to raid and win shit like krusty don't want to deal with hurr teenage romance things.

isuzu x rundel, maybe. or perhaps isuzu simply has the mental baggage thing of fuck I got him almost killed once I'll never let that happen again

naotsu x mari
maybe. poor cake needs a working man to pick her up
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>>102199468
I think he meant the .hack game
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>>102199532
>shiroes wants to fuck henrietta
Umm what? I might have missed it, but I don't think was ever mentioned. Care to elaborate?
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>>102199537
My bad. It was so boring I couldn't watch more than 5 epsiodes
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>>102198216
Actually, the staff he gets in the North does have a glowing energy wing that can manifest off of it...
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>>102199655
>Not playing the games
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>>102199428
>not realizing I meant le epic maymay doge
I had a trip and name. I tried to sound like a faggot, to a faggot.

Also, I was thinking about old-WOW. Not the piece of shit it is now.
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>>102199648
happens during the dancing. shiroe thought "she's hot I'd hit it" and then never brought up again
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>tfw you'll never wipe tears off her face
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>Shitposting about a show you're not even watching
Time to filter a trip.
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>>102199693
>Not making your own book about mixing game and reality in a way it was never done before to get a chance of it becoming an anime then a game
Step up sempai
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Do Guild Leaders need to make contracts? or can any scribe with the mats/skill level make them?

Time to reroll scribe and be a notary
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>>102197088
>he must need a girlfriend

No, he just misses his cat.
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>>102199655
Sorry, forgot to quote. I'm >>102199795
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>>102199890
A cat is fine, too.
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>>102199917
I was talking about .hack, not the other 2.
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Why doesn't Shiroe just make a contract that makes the world go back to normal?
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>>102200020
In pure theory, if he ever found the original contract from the game register, his subclass permit him to nullify it so they would either stop being adventurers or come back to their world...or die.
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>>102200020
Because that's the real world
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>>102200020
Why the fuck would they ever want to go back to the real world?
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>>102200168
Japan seems to have a cultural boner for 'I never asked for this' when presented with immortality, superpowers and subhuman waifus.
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>>102200020
Elder Tale is the real world
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What is wrong with this anime? Why aren't they doing shit to get out of the game. Even SAO told you how to get out in the first episode. Do they ignore everything about the real world? Also why do they need to remind me of the same thing every episode? They didn't even bother to tell how Shiroe can gain more hax than Kirito.
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>>102200343

Are you seriously this bored, shitposter-kun?
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>>102200343
Behold, the true face of autism.
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>>102200365
/a/ is pretty boring today
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>>102200343
Because it's a different fucking anime christ.
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>>102200020
>Living a gamer's wetdream
>Can rape all the elf's and people he wants
>Has his own sex ninja and sexslave disciple
>Rules a city with others (by blackmail, which makes him the one who is really ruling)
>Can ride a flying bird
>Real world is shit as fuck, but now he has a chance to redo it right
>No niggers
>No jews (beside him)
>Has magic that is practically god-like
>Why they can't is a spoiler area (but has already been said numerous times)
>Can fuck furries (I'm not a furfag though, but catears or monstergirls ar no different)

>>>>>>>>>Why doesn't Shiroe just make a contract that makes the world go back to normal?
Most of these are exaggerated, but still

What.
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You're a new player. Choose your class
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>>102200446
Take a break and watch some anime?

It's not anime but I'm enjoying Columbo today.
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>>102200499
Samurai
And Chef when I can
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>>102200499
Cleric.
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>>102200484
>gamer's wetdream
He might be lvl 90 but rolled as the weakest class ever. Also people are starting reaching lvl 95 so he's left behind.
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>>102200499
DPS Guardian.
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>>102200499
Foxtail Kannagi
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>>102200499
Swashbuckler
I usually wouldn't pick it as an MMO class but if I'm going to live my life in the database, it sounds an appealing prospect.
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>>102200499
Assassin.
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>>102200499
Sorcerer.
I want to use some heavy 2 handed melee weapon and light that shit on fire.
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>>102200708
You won't become a power mage like Rudy Anon-kun
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>>102200499
I'd roll a fat jolly human bard with brewer subclass that experiments how to blow people up with alcohol. All I need is some mad alchemist buddy.
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>>102200631
Isn't nobody lvl 91 yet?
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>>102200499
Race of Ceremony War Miko/Sigilmaker.
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>>102200499
catgirl bard armed with scythe
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>>102200499
Monk probably. I'm a pretty shit team player so I'd just go for an offensive type.
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Fuck, why has no-one started work on an MMORPG for Oculus Rift yet? I want to play with /a/nons in the database database
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>>102200499
Druid, best looking race with biggest tits (prolly fox tail or elf.
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>>102200823
Latest numbers we have from the novels, Shiroe is 93, Naotsugus is 94, Tetra is 93, Massachusetts is 95, and Demikas is 93. Presumably most of the high end players are in the same range.
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>>102201014
How much time has passed in the latest novel since the apocalypse?
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>>102201014
What about Isaac?
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>>102200940
Only the developer kit version of the Rift is out yet, the consumer grade isn't out yet. Kind of pointless to have one now, but give it time, Valve is working with the Oculus guys to improve the immersiveness in the consumer version.
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>>102200499
If it were a game, Swashbuckler. If it was real life, sorcerer seems like the funnest/most intuitive with the least menus to play
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>>102200499
Am I playing the normal game or real world version? If normal game, Bard. If real world, Cleric.
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>>102200499
Race:Half Elf
Gender: Female
Class:Assassin or Sorcerer
Subclass: Prostitute
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>>102201109
Cool. I imagine it will be Rift 2.0 before we get VR good enough to run MMORPGs on anyway.
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>>102200499
Monk if it's real, Summoner if it's not
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>>102201055
Catastrophe was in May, novels are somewhere in December I think.

>>102201080
Unknown at this time, I'm going off the profile pages, and Issac has only had one, along with most of the cast. The ones I mentioned specifically have had two.
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>>102201164
There are no Half Elves.
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>>102201184
Ooh, thanks for that picture anon.
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>>102201147
>Holding yourself personally responsible if one of your lander party members dies
No thanks.
Also why was Rudy able to become a Mage in the first place? Can they just decide to be a class and then do it?
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>Nearly nobody wants to be a tank
You have no balls
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>>102201166
If Rift 1.0 lives up to the technical presentations I've seen about it, I think it will surprise a lot of people. But keep in mind you'll need a pretty powerful machine to run it on ultra, 3D rendering means you have to render each frame twice. Not obscenely powerful, but you won't be able to run it on a toaster like most MMOs today.
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>>102201219
Correction there are no Alvs
Shiroe is a half Alv

In world lore says they are the bastard children of imprisoned/enslaved Alvs that were raped.
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>>102201326
But that's completely normal in MMOs, anon.
ever tried queuing for any dungeon in any game?
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>>102200499
I usually pick the least picked class when playing MMOs. But if it were real, then I'll be a Swashbuckler with Sigilmaker subclass if you can write the sigils anywhere and get the desired effect.
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>>102201326
Guardian/Cleric/Enchanter Support master race
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>>102201417
Yeah
And in every MMO I played I was a tank
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>>102201326
I actually normally tank, but the idea of stripper war mikos covered in tattoos is too amusing for me to pass up. If I can have an alt though, I'd probably roll a Samurai tank.
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>>102201516
Let's team up
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>>102200499
Most likely a Guardian with a sub-account as swash buckler or the other way around. I'm a two-handed sword tanker.

And if possible, a(nother) sub-account as cleric, but that one has to be a loli

So yeah. Screw other people, I'm having crazy hijinks with myself and try to fuck my loli account.
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>>102201184
What's the difference between the production subclasses and the roleplaying subclasses?
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>>102201622
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>>102201720
Oh, yeah. Forgot to ask this yesterday.

What happens if you have more than one account? Do you fuse or what?
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>>102201326
>tfw always end up tanking when I play D&D because everyone else is either too pussy or has some bullshit worked out

I hate being a sponge.
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>>102200020
No, the bigger question, is why didn't Shiroe just make Rundelhouse accept the EULA and ToS for Elder tale, then Rudy wouldn't have to be a sublcass of adventurer. I bet Shiroe could have pulled them out of somewhere...
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>>102201326
I've always played my characters to solo, so I'm a cross between Guardian and Swashbuckler, if possible.

If I were able to play this game, I'd go with a swashbuckler for my main character, and an assassin for the second. Anything else usually ends with me getting bored with the build.
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>>102200499
Sounds like Bards are in high demand, not many people roll them, and they actually sound a little bit OP unless they're soloing. I'd take Bard if it were a game. Subclass: probably Sigilmaker.

If it were like Log Horizon, I'd roll Monk/Pathfinder and be the evasion tank/front line brawler for a party. I may not be good at much, but I can brawl like a fucker.
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>>102201804
Just like with any game: your account you're logging into is the one yuo're stuck with. If you had decided to play your shit bard character (mule) instead of your level 90 assassin, you're stuck with it.
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>>102202047
What happens to the other account?
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>>102199468
>No Monthly Fees

Uh, food, and rent, and bills, lotta fees.
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>>102202186
Left alongside with stuff like your email address in the real world. Just gone, poof. Doesn't exist in Elder Tale.
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>>102202047
Actually, according to Marmalade Roe2 will show up in some capacity. Some speculate it may have something to do with the following item Shiroe has and its flavor text:

<Laurel Blossom Talisman>
Phantasmal-class talisman that imitates the legend of the flower that blooms with the moon's cycle. Blesses the change in soul, the experience loss is reduced when dying and the time of respawn is shortened. Contains the ability to strengthen attack magic and defense magic of the mind-attribute.
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>>102201248
Well actually the reason I picked Cleric is because you can actually dual wield swords with them and wear heavy armor and/or shield. They're practically Paladins on Log Horizon if you build them like it. Of course bitches like healers too.
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>>102201326
Being a tank in MMOs is lot different from being a real world tank who is getting the shit beat out of him. I don't think I'm as hardcore as Naotsugu even if leveling makes your body stronger.
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>>102202393
>that imitates the legend of the flower that blooms with the moon's cycle. Blesses the change in soul

Unless I'm reading this completely worng, is it implying Shiroe might alternatively respawn as Roe2 and back to normal depending what phase the moon is in?
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>>102202465
Can you really? I though Swashbucklers are the only dual-wielders.
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>>102201248
I imagine People of the Land mages in Elder Tale are a bit like in most fantasy novels - there has to be a spark of natural talent at it, and then you train it to become a sorc/enchanter or whatever.

>>102202465
Clerics are more like Paladins than traditional Clerics really. Good to see a fair few healers ITT, as a Monk I would gladly party up with you. Healers and medics really don't get enough love.
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>>102202621
The translated class description said swords, but I guess it didn't specify dual wield. Might just be sword/shield.
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>>102202664
It might just mean that Clerics are able to use any sword-type weapon.
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>>102202664
So a Cleric can be a Paladin too! The way I see it, you can actually blend existing classes with a particular subclass to "create" an entirely new class!

For example: What do you get when Sword-wielding Sorcerer with Sigilmaker class? How about Axe-wielding Druid with Berserker class?
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>>102202560
that wouldn't make sense, since roe2 is a different class (maybe different race as well)
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>>102202839
Well it seems like classes are flexible in Elder Tale anyway. For example Nyanta and Shoryuu both dual wield but it seems to be in a completely different way.
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There is one thing I'm not sure I understand.
Was the game a VR game before? Every flashback to the real world we get Shiroe sits in front of his computer screen, yet his memories of the game during that time are displayed in a way that would make sense for a VR.
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If I had to play post-apocalypse ET and was able to choose my race/class/subclass and shit like that I'd go with something that can play pretty much solo, keeping myself alive without help of others but not lame like summoner. Not because of some edgy 'lonely beater' shit but because I could explore new things that appeared after the apocalypse and then utilize those secrets to make dosh.
I'd really love to see every subclass and race described in detail.
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>>102202990
It was keyboard+mouse third-person, just like most of the MMO's are now.
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>>102196812
Satire or not it's actually very true. I like LH but I enjoyed SAO more. It was also a lot better animated and a great soundtrack. LH is more like WOW nerds wankfest.
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>>102203005
it was posted >>102201184
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>>102203005
This. I'd take Monk so I didn't have to carry shit, and for subclass maybe Pathfinder so I'd get lost in the forest less often. And I don't know about anyone else but I would invest in property ASAP, because it would get snapped up real quick I think.
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>>102193665
Nyanta-san hasn't had good screen time in at least 3 episodes. So sad. ;_;
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>>102203159
>every subclass described
>described
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>>102203090
They're different. Go away. They're not trying to do the same thing. It's like comparing The Wire with CSI Miami.
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>>102202512
Actually that's why I'd be tempted to try a tank, find out exactly where my limit is, try out different martial arts and see which work and which don't.

>>102202560
No one knows. That's certainly one interpretation, but there are lots of others, including that that part is just a lore explanation for the bonuses given, or my personal interpretation which is that according to Spirit Theory, alts are different bodies controlled by the same soul.

That opens the possibility that on the moon, where you are only soul, there might be a way to choose which body is reconstructed in the cathedral, thus you could switch between alts when you die. Pure speculation, but fits with the established lore of the setting.
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>>102202990
not VR

it's supposed to be Everquest, the original if it didn't get laid down and got continous content updates plus big overhauls over 20 years
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>>102202954
Yeah. Assassins can be true Assassins, or Snipers. Sorcerers can be pyros or ice witches. Samurai can be Archers or Tanks.
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Isuzu is such a shit. Her "omg he is a dog" crap was obnoxious enough before she decided to hit the poor guy who almost died and suffered the most in the series, and then order him around like a dog. It's worse than Naotsugu's shitty sex jokes at the beginning.
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>>102198473
Rudy's drive to become an adventurer was due to him originally being an NPC with a quest of that nature

One would think the task of making him an adventurer would be a little easier compared to some random Lander.

No one seems to be raiding or farming Phantasmal mats, which top-tier crafting would use, so it's not like this could become a common occurrence
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>You'll never go to Elder Tale and form a Guild with fellow /a/nons called "You're waifu a shit"
>You'll never coordinate completely with them
>There will never be an autist strategy in our guild
>You'll never whore your healers to other guilds in raids for that jewgold since there are so much
>You'll never realize the average /a/non is kind of mediocre in vidya and you won't ever even teach them the ways of the raid
>You'll never strip dem fox girls covered in paint
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>>102196603
Crusty a shit. Isaac is canonically the strongest guardian and a good guy. Let's hope he gets a good girl coming his way.
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>>102203351
I wonder what are all the various applications of Monk? So far we've only seen that asshole guild leader guy, and he seemed pretty damn powerful. Enough to beat Nyanta 1v1, who has been portrayed as a pretty well specced lvl90.
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>>102203551
Elder Tale is a bit different from just playing the vidya. I'd imagine it involves quite a lot of courage and pretty good physique and stuff. And it would be great if there were an /a/ guild, I'd join for sure.

>you will never live in Elder Tale
Stop. Every thread when I see that my heart sinks.
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>>102203589
Here's what I can think of off the bat:
>Ki-Guy who focuses more on flinging energy orbs or waves to enemies
>Brute, preferably with Sigilmaker subclass. He tatoos himself with whatever he can to maximize his stats.
>The usual martial-art build
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>>102199073
I couldn't tell when reading this scene in the LN, but Rudy definitely used Overskill to kill that wolf. (although it killed him too which made no sense)

Point-blank aoe (Flame Punch) but detonated inside the head of opponent to focus all the energy into one target.
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>>102203742
I'd imagine there's an Evasion/Speed Demon type monk as well.
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>>102203589
>Enough to beat Nyanta 1v1
eh? he was getting his ass kicked and had to run screaming to his healers to stay in the fight.
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>>102203589
>Enough to beat Nyanta 1v1
Nah. In the anime Nyanta's hp loss was over-dramatic, that didn't happen. In a fair 1vs1 duel Demikas had zero chance him.
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>>102203799
Wasn't that with Shiroe's fuckery though? I meant he was winning when it was pure 1v1 I thought.
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>>102199648
Um it's explicitly stated in the LN.
They are a good match.
Imagine all the glasses adjusting they'd do as a couple.
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To be honest, I kinda like the idea of Rudi being elevated to the level of an adventurer, but I disapprove of it because I can't get rid of the thought that they just aren't humans, real PLAYERS.
It lowers the status of adventurers (human players) and also makes them vulnerable to pressure from the people of the land.

After all, those, especially the mighty of those, now have access to immortality. People would pay any price for that.
The people of the land might also capture some lowly guild leader, force him to accept PotL as members, thereby granting them immortality and later on even overthrow the guild leader, becoming guild leaders themselves. Or just leave the guild and make one.

People of the Land shouldn't ever have those powers.
Remove People of the Land.
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>>102203367
>Anons first tsundere
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>>102203790
Basically something like an assassin, eh? Same as a Cleric who tanks!
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>>102199795
>not filtering all trips that aren't from content providers or story fags like OHB.
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>>102203904
>capture some lowly guild leader, force him to accept PotL as members, thereby granting them immortality
It doesn't work like that, you need to at least have a 90 level scrive and couple of phantasmal-class ingredients.
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>>102203865
When it was pure 1v1 he went to the healers because Nyanta burned his HP and gave him too much debuff, after he got healers on his back then Nyanta got Shiroe help.
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>>102200499
Tank Guardian, because I like being in control.
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>>102204007
Are you a masochist, by chance?
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That asspull in episode was bigger than SAO. I really liked SAO. The asspull in SAO was explained perfectly but in LH it was
>If people can cook I can bend the rule of the world

SAO was better. In SAO they explained all of their shit. The action was good. Kirito doesn't need a whole army to solo low level stuff. Why do you even play a MMO if you can't solo like Kirito.

The romance in SAO actually went somewhere. They got married and have a daughter. They also have their own house and went fishing to bond. Not like LH where the fuckin romance was implied but never shown. Romance doesn't need 10 episode just to show it. It only needs 2 episodes.

The world building in SAO was also great. Especially in the second game. They explained the game once and never bring it up every episode. They only bring it up when it was required. In LH what do you know? Absolutely nothing. They explain it little by little and bring up every shit in every episode. They don't even explain how they got into the game and how to get out of it. They just say
>You are trap in a game
>Deal with it

The characters in SAO was also great. Especially Kirito. His characterization was so deep. He is a beater who knew sadness and always help people without needing a reason. All the characters like him. His sister was also a great character. She fought with her own self so she would not fall in love with her own oniichan. Finally Asuna. She went from a badass to a loving wife and mother. SAO has a lot more characterization than LH. Shiroe was just some random nerd that doesn't like being in a guild and apparently evil. Akatsuki is just a ninja body guard. Rundel haus code is just i want to be an adventurer. Isuzu is a sexist. Tohya is with his I can walk shit.
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>>102203904
>also makes them vulnerable to pressure from the people of the land
This might actually happened if Lander actually knew it can be done, but the scrubs never told anyone else and Rudy never brought it up to anyone so it's a moot point.
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>>102203979
Doesn't matter. The point is that it's possible.

I always mostly consider the long-lasting effects. The effects on hundreds of years.
Since they have to stay on that world, eventually there will be more and more of those non-human "adventurers".

And even in the short run, the mighty PotL will go to huge extents to gain immortality, just like how, historically, mighty people caused lots of suffering for the promise of immortality.
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>>102203979
>you need to at least have a 90 level scrive and couple of phantasmal-class ingredients.

NONE of that has been confirmed of clarified. That is just what Shiroe used because he couldn't risk using shitty ingredients on something important. For all we know, low level materials work on low level/common landers.
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>>102200499
Summoner.

I own you're waifu's.
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>>102204068
Please give it a rest. It's been what, 3, 4 threads now? It was funny the first time.

>>102203999
Ah, I remember now. Thanks.
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>>102204100
It's not. People are going to find out eventually.

Someone found out. Others are going to find out, too, just like how Landers found out about how cooking works.

>>102204068
Bla bla blub, you either missed the episode in which the sorcerer explained how there could be rule bending, or you just didn't pay attention. In either case, you're a dofus.
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>>102204157
>>102204159
Fuck you no. LH is shit and SAO is the greatest.
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>>102204159
You can't handle the truth brah.
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>>102200499
>No one is picking summoner so they can fuck they're cute Undine-like waifu.

It's been awhile since I've been this disappointed with you.
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>>102204110
Fair enough. The rare and non-optional ingredient was the Soul Shards. Only bottle on Yamato server. He knew by Regan's lecture that Shiroe needed to change Rudy's soul in order to allow resurrection
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>>102204277
ahem
>>102204149
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>>102204219
>just like how Landers found out about how cooking works
Because Shiroe made it public to the whole Akiba. This time no one said anything, not even the recipient.
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>Making LH like real life and shit.
>Cooking and other tedious work when you could be out killing goblins and getting sucked off by a succubus.

No thx. I will stick to casual gaming.

I hate having to level up in Skyrim
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>>102203904
This isn't a zero-sum game. It's not like every time a Lander becomes an Adventurer some Adventurer out there is forced to become a Lander. You can argue that only the "real" players deserve to be adventurers, but I'm not sure what basis you're using for that argument besides "wah wah we're special and no one else deserves to be special like us".
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>>102204392
People are going to find out by accident. That's how stuff works even in the real world. It's not even particularly intricate. Think of science, people found out things by accident all the time. Fun fact: The scientific method has now also been introduced to the world of ET.

THINK OF THE LONG-LASTING EFFECTS. I really can't grasp how shortsighted people are.
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>>102204438
>Like real life
>Didn't pick summoner

I can't hear you over the succubus cooking my aphrodisiac infused dinner
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>>102200499
Monk with pilgrim subclass (Pilgrims have raised movement speed, are proficient at evading and blocking damage , stacking that with on a Monk and you need 2-4 players of the same level to even make a dent).
I can cast fists and dragon kicks while using quarterstaff the rest of the time.

Otherwise i'd play as Bard with sword saint subclass (swordsaint subclass allows a bard to deal some serious damage since Bards are a class focused on longer combat and buffs they usually deal less damage and are best suited for long raids considering their stamina and low MP drain).
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>>102204438
I played Skyrim too after watching LH, and by these two, i can say I know more about RPGs now.
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>>102204535
>"wah wah we're special and no one else deserves to be special like us".
That's a pretty good argument.
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>>102204544
Because every high level scribe are gonna try to revive every near death Lander that they see by chance using the correct contract terms right?
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>>102203786
>(although it killed him too which made no sense)
You could say his overskill was a bit overkill
I couldn't resist
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>>102200708
If you want that then just use a samurai with an enchanted weapon.
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>>102204579
Holy shit, Monk + Pilgrim sounds amazing. Has anyone compiled what all the subclasses do into one image yet? If not they should.
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>>102204646
If you're 4.
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>>102204579
Sword Saint is a title, and some of those are limited amounts only, so that might not be doable. Even if it's unlimited numbers, they generally require difficult quests or achievements.
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>>102204657
There's already a Lander mage who knows a lot about how the real world works and he told a random person about how the world works. It's not unlikely that he might tell others.

It's not unlikely that people might question Rudi's immortality. Other Landers knew him, too. Isuzu even said something about his childhood, which hints that there's backstory to him, which means there's other Landers who knew him - other Landers who might question his immortality.

Besides, yeah, what you said is fully in the realm of possibility in such a huge world. Besides the "every" part, of course, but it doesn't matter, because information about immortality spreads virally, especially if it turns out to work.
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>>102204552
>bothering with summoning waifus when there are plenty of subhuman qt3.14's just running around
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>>102197857
> I understand that Rudy joined the LH guild, but how does that relate to him becoming an adventurer?

Converting Rudy into an adventurer resolved a conflict in the rules of the Log Horizon world that Shiroe intentionally created. Shiroe, as level 90 enchanter/scribe and guild master, created a high-level magic contract inducting Rudy into the Log Horizon guild, with all the benefits and statuses that accrue. Since magic contracts work in the Log Horizon world, this created the following conflict: Landers cannot be adventurers; Guild members must be adventurers, and Rudy, a Lander, is nevertheless in a Guild. The system resolved the conflict by creating an adventurer _subclass_ of Lander, for Rudy.
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>>102204927
>The system resolved the conflict by creating an adventurer _subclass_ of Lander

Is that a global change? Can any lander now get an adventurer subclass?
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>>102204927
>_subclass_ of Lander
What's a "subclass" in LH?
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>>102204848
Rudy's been masquerading in Akiba as an adventurer for months. Hell even Touma and Serera didn't know he was PoL (although those two are quite thick)
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>>102205016
See bottom of:
>>102201184
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>>102204392
>just like how Landers found out about how cooking works
>This time no one said anything, not even the recipient.

Landers are employed all over Akiba and are even present in Round Table council meetings. They handle almost all the paperwork for both the Round Table and guilds. They handle cleaning, messenging, shops, restaurants, clerking, warehousing, and other employable functions where they can overhear, see processes, or handle documents.

It is clear that both West and Eastal have spies among the landers in Akiba. The western spies were in the books and the eastern spies have been in both books and anime so far. Western spies also do sabotage as well.
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>>102205016
>What's a "subclass" in LH?

It is shown on each person's status screen. Here is Rudy's after the change.
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>>102205046
People in Akiba aren't people who knew him. They don't matter.
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But does making a lander an adventurer make them true sentient beings? Or are they still just another creation of the gamu world? Until we find out why the gamer world has sucked all these people in who cannot get out there are still lots of unanswered questions. I am hoping it is better than SAO's explanation at least.
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How long until we meet someone from another server? I want some westerner popping into Akiba speaking japenglish.
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>>102205046
>Touma
kek
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>>102205109
Rudy fulfilled his quest to become an adventurer. Obviously that would have been impossible when Elder Tales was just a game. His family and village may not see that as odd
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>Kyaah!
holy shit, I didn't imagine Mariel could make such sounds
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>>102205046
>Hell even Touma and Serera didn't know he was PoL (although those two are quite thick)
ITYM Tohya.
Also: exactly how thick is Tohya in inches? This is important.
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>>102205046
>Touma
Is this a thing now? We're going to fuddle up Tohya's name?

I've seen like 10 people do this since the last thread.
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>>102205149
They are and have always been sentient beings in their own world. Before the apocalypse, Adventurers were seen as "non-sentient", near mindless people of immense power that blindly did anything requested of them. Suddenly, they all gained sentience in the apocalypse, which is what has caused so much trouble.
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>>102205283
I get a boner every time Mariel speaks.
Dat kansaiben
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>>102205293
this many
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>>102205356
Anon-han~
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>>102205283
Anime is really shipping them hard this felt like an OTP moment

How will the dynamic of their relationship change when Tetra is added to the mix?
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>>102202990
It was a classic K+M 3rd person MMO. The flashbacks are basically just his memories glorified.
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>>102205304
Must be in my brain from HS
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>>102205307
Thanks that does make sense. I am wondering if the game itself caused the apocalypse and no outside influence was the cause. Perhaps right now the devs in the real world don't understand what has happened and are frantically trying to save everyone. The game itself became sentient?
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>>102205419
>Anime is really shipping them hard this felt like an OTP moment

It did. They're really cute together, too.

>Tetra
I'm sure it'll evoke mad kansai-ben jelly from the crescent moon maiden.
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How is it that the Kanami side story doesn't have a manga adaptation?
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>>102197159
A man is only truly alive on the battlefield, anon.
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>>102205514
The 'real world' was created by elder tale's world fraction spells.
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>>102205419
my feet hurt
this trap is heavy
so loud
I wish I was at home forming Meaty Combo with Marielle
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>>102205062

I reckon that means that a Lander who becomes an adventurer can't have an adventurer's subclass, doesn't it? So Rudy can't gain any production skills in addition to his sorcery?
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>>102203159
There are more subclasses that weren't mentioned. There was a description where the number of different subclasses is said to exceed 60. There are some traditional roleplaying classes like witch-hunter, pilgrim etc.
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>>102205514
>Perhaps right now the devs in the real world don't understand what has happened and are frantically trying to save everyone. The game itself became sentient?
No clue. Maybe the old world itself was destroyed/ no longer exists? Maybe landers are just brainwashed people from the old world who were logged in? Everything is just a big question mark at this point.
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so could wizards gather to make an army-class magic to wipe out the goblins? Like a mass curse so it doesn't wrek everything else
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>>102205514
I've been thinking of the game as some kind of imperfect portal between two worlds. Suddenly, some great power in the Elder Tales world made the portal stronger for just a moment, sucking in all the people currently playing the game, and then immediately after the portal closed, which is why there are no other players entering the game.
Just an Idea.
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>>102200499
Summoner.
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>>102205747
>were logged in
Correction: weren't logged in
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>>102200499
Guardian. I'm gonna protect everyones sorry ass. I-It's not like I want to!
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I'd fuck every lander maiden for miles around #IfIWasAdventurer
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>>102203786
>although it killed him too which made no sense
Well, he is kinda tanking a mob that is higher level than him AND intended for groups all while wearing a dress that gives fuck all in terms of protection. He also gets smashed through a wall and his arm chewed on.

It's actually pretty damn surprising he managed to cast fist while doing so, not that he got himself killed.
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>>102205965
>#IfIWasAdventurer
What the fuck?
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>>102205662

Can love bloom on the battlefield?
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>>102201842
>Memorizing 10+ pages of copyright shit that you probably didn't read anyway
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>>102206071
Its normalfag speak for 'rape my ass.'
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>>102200499
Assassin Sigilmaker
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>>102206146

Only when watered by tears and freckles.
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>>102200168
>>102200271

This shit drives me wild. And it happens in almost every fucking show/movie/book.

At least in the EL Hazard ova they don't go back (can't go back?).
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>>102206226
Krusty doesn't bother to PvP because the XP is too low.
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>>10220601

Arm in mouth is perfect defense! All the strength of the jaw and leverage is negated. Not to mention choking it. Sure it would hurt like hell. In the LN I thought Rudy was trying to CC the wolf with that tactic
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>>102200499
Monk. I want to punch dragons and throw giants. All while being drunk like a proper Drunken Fist monk.

Brewer or alchemist as subclass, depending on which can make the best alcohol. Healing / stat potions are fine too, I guess. Might find something to cure hangover while I'm at it.
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>>102206227
The thought is, and this is why this show is government funded, that real life is better then fantasy. Their society is going to crumble because 3dpd.
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If Rundel dies again does he return to the cathedral now? If so then does he lose portions of his memory like normal adventurers do?
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Imagine how fun your favorite MMO would be like this. Assume theres no instancing/loading screens either.
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>>102206227
Haven't played FFTA, eh?
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>>102206369
Yes.
Maybe.
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>>102206369

Logic would make you think so.
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>>102206226
Crusty is a PvE-fag through and through. His guild might be combat, but its a raiding guild
the PvP one quit the Round Table even before it formed
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>>102206369
He's an adventurer for all that matters now. Except he doesn't have a subclass.
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>>102206227
>EL Hazard
I think the guy was forced back to the real world and then he found a way back to the magic world.
Now that's someone who I can respect, fuck Marche.
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>>102206369
Considering he didn't have a real world life, there might be no downsides to him dying except for EXP loss. However, he might lose his actual memory now if he does. I'm sure well find out eventually. Nah prolly not.
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>>102204706
You go by the general idea of roleplaying classes by comparing them to their roles in traditional RPGs. Pilgrims are focused on evading, high speed, blocking and gathering inteligence. Witch-hunters are focused on anti-mage and anti-magic creature combat using traps and tricks to cover for their low defensive abilities and are mainly stealthy ranged DPS characters. Agents are proficient in all forms of combat (meele and ranged), are good at evasion and stealth while being able to gather almost any kind of information(they are limited to wearing only cloth). Acrobats are characters focused on evasion, and speed + they can break in into almost any kind of area.
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>>102206362
I thought that was Outbreak Company. Oh wait...
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>>102204716
No, it's a pretty good argument.

Some moral systems assign stuff rights based on someone's sentience or their capability to suffer. In these regards, adventurers are special. They are sentient and can feel pain.

We don't know how they happened to come to the world of LH, but we know that adventurers once were real people. People who were sentient and could feel pain. Provided they still are, they would have a high moral status, but maybe they're just simulations likened after real people? Or maybe they're just in a VR environment?
We don't know whether Landers are sentient and feel pain. Maybe they, too, are just simulations. Then they would be as real and pain-feeling as your typical VN waifu - in others words, not at all. This would free you from the responsibilities towards a being of a high moral status, because they'd be not real, they'd be simulated and would not be sentient or pain-feeling in an important way, and therefore not a being of moral status.

It all comes down to how they reached the world of LH.
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>>102206533
But subclasses usually provide metagame support, not stat bonuses.
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>>102206477
XP = memory, just like IRL

Rudy will still have to sacrifice something on his next trip to the moon
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>>102204805
Hm well there's the swordsman subclass to cover for that. You can change your subclass anytime you want anyway (you only have to give up on all the subclass exp.)
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Are they able to respec and change builds in the real world version? I'd hate to be the guy who tried an obscure build and got stuck with it.
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>>102202839
>Axe-wielding Druid
Here
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>>102206445
>William Massachusetts is a Pvp-fag

Whelp, that suddenly explains why he uses his phantasmal sniper bow like a retard. Because of "muh duelist's honor."
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>>102206622
>Rudy will still have to sacrifice something on his next trip to the moon

He'll choose to forget the exact position of Miss Izusu's freckles.

Then he'll be forced to study her face all over again, as if for the first time, and he'll keep doing it forever.
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>>102204996
The adventurer subclass was probably meant to be the default subclass for everyone without a subclass.
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>>102206648
Who is that cute as FUCK Cleric? I need that healing in my life.
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>>102206719
Nigga, that's too cute.
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>>102206777
>in my life.
No anon, that healing will go right into your ass.
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>>102206588
Furthermore, these real people can have serious drawbacks from being killed: They lose memories.
If you were forced to either die and save a Lander or survie and let the Lander die, which would be the appropriate action?

That depends on whether Landers are as special as adventurers. If they aren't, they wouldn't deserve the same protection (rights) as an adventurer and adventurers could just let them die, because they suffer from consequences and Landers do not.
Or would you accept serious drawbacks like losing an arm to save a fictional character from a fictional death?
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>>102206588
Your entire theory rests on whether landers actually have souls. Shiroe likened it to MP but I don't buy it. that could just be another computer aspect/simulation wotnot. The soul is the essence of a being. This does however bring into question what makes a sentient being special. Is it their humanity? Are landers 'human' even if they are not made from flesh and blood but bits and bytes? Are they just a sinulcram of humanity? Seperating simulation from self awareness is a tricky subject.
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>>102206835
JESUS CHRIST! SPOILER THAT SHIT, NIGGA!
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>>102206777
Cutest girl in Log Horizon.
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>>102206835
reported for bestiality
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>>102206868
>simulcrum
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>>102206868
>actually have souls

Nobody has souls because magic is not real.
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>>102206937
If she is his waifu does that mean he is her woofu?
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>>102206943
>simulacum
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>>102207008
>woofu

GM awards you +300xp for that fucking arf~ul pun.
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>>102206965
How can magic not be real if out eyes aren't real?
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>>102206719
Rudy could sacrifice all the damn inu references
>>102206925
You mean G.I.R.L.
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>>102206965
>magic is not real
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>>102206588
There is no VR so they can't be in a VR environment.
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>>102206835
I wonder how Rudy will react when he learns Isuzu has been turning him into a dog.
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>>102207068
>out eyes
Put them back in, faggot.

>>102207076
But they are his charm point.
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>>102207076
Shit I fucked up the spoiler tags
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>>102206719
>adventurers create a folder called 'if i die' in their interface
>fill it with things they should do in case they forget about them
>are able to experience things for the first time over and over
>become addicted to dying
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>>102187077

Never has reading a contract has been so awesome before.

I had chills during that scene.
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>>102207162

I'd sit around and eat cookies all day #IfIWasLander.
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>>102206648

Goddamn that Swissgaurd looking motherfucker with the flamberge is baller as fuck. Him and the moe dwarf druid are both 9/10 would party with.
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>>102207124

lograrnz system
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>>102207136
It's okay. No one will get it at first.

So what's the problem with this dude?
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>>102205769
mah nigga
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>>102207275
>moe dwarf druid
Goddamn, just looked at that fucker's face.
Kawaii Axe Druidwarf indeed.
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>>102207275
They seem like bros
Between them I mean
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>>102187077
Why people keeps watching the most boring show of last season?
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>>102207243
Don't you usually get off to signing contracts?
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>>102207449
you don't?
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>>102205419
Trio
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>>102207393
>boring
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>>102206648
I'd guild and party with any of those guys and gal except Shiroe who for whatever fucking reason is deciding to be a sulky asshole. Also his equipment lacks a certain sense of style.
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>>102207393
why do you keep shit posting?
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>>102207571
>Not caring about stats
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>>102207449
It makes it a bit awkward when you're doing stuff like buying a car.

Still totally worth it.
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That sure is a big katana.
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Where are the pinoys and BRs?
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Shiroe just literally activated God mode, the ability to freely give life to those without it.

Fucking scrubs deserve less screen time. Minori a SHIT!

Poor Akatsuki, robbed of all screen time and managed to lose in a poll to someone introduced 2 eps ago...
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>>102207607
I care a lot about stats especially when it's business time IE your MMO becomes your fucking life literally. However I would keep raiding, farming, buying new equipment until I got endgame stuff that matched my look. Call me a fag if you want but appearance is important and when I'm punching dragons to death I want to look good doing it.
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>>102207668
In the south american server. Aka elder tale's version of hell.
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>>102207642
Is that a tank Samurai? 'Cause he looks balling
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>>102207668
Hell.
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>>102207668
SEA is sea in one map.

BR is huehue-hwet in many respects.
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>>102207668
Nation-based servers.

And I headcanon that some BR blew up the entire brazilian server by accident the first day after the Apocalypse using world-changer magic.
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>>102207710
A lot could be fixed with dye tubs, enamels and wood stains. Overskill !
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Just started reading this and one things immediately came to mind:

How do sex and procreation work now?
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>>102207757
>>102207788
>>102207792
Even if they have their own servers, they still keep leaking out in international and other servers
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>>102207800
Is that supposed to be Rudy and Isuzu?
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Novelfags, will we get to see people from other servers/see other servers?
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>>102207866

Official answer is 'wait and see'.
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>>102207875
>BRs jumping through Fairy Rings to escape being with BRs
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>>102207907
Little bit done so far. Very slow though

http://pastebin.com/u/BucketHat
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>>102207668
Where they always are.

Everywhere.
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>>102200499
Summoner
Time to start consensually enslaving monster girls.
If there are no monstergirls, i'll go necromancer and make some by sewing together pieces of monsters and of landers
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>>102205769
There's a limit on the number of summons. You can have a max of 4 summons that are all half your level.
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>>102207966
>Go to western Europe
>Panty only guild
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Krusty is such a dick. You can see it when he kills the goblin king. He likes killing. He also pretends he is some kinda Cassanova with Lenessia. The guy is a douchebag.

Shiroe is all fucking stats and strats and a pedo to boot.

Isuzu doesn't get enough screen time but seems like a good guy who just needs to get laid.

Akatsuki is too clingy and obedient to Shiroe and just rolls by on her cute factor even if she is good at ninja.

Lenessia is a meek lander who has been given some courage traits to make her seem less so. She is still a royal maiden though just thrown in to be plot fodder though.

Meeow looks interesting but being a cook is being side lined. I wanna see what Meeow can do in a fucking real fight, He seems all show and no tell.

Rudy actually seems interesting as we don't know his background yet. Hopefully we will get some reveal on him leading to what the fuck is going on in this universe.
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>>102208219
Isuzu is a girl, Anon
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>>102208219
Krusty didn't kill the gobling king yet, just some random generals.

Rudy and Isuzu only get one scene next volume.
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>>102208219
Isuzu
>guy

Nyanta
>watch ep. 5 ffs
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Its time

>>102208219
Its not the Goblin King.

Its lolicon, and whats wrong with that?

>Isuzu doesn't get enough screen time but seems like a good guy who just needs to get laid.
>good guy
What?

Akatsuki got issues, get your butt ready for five episodes of it if we ever got season 2

And enjoy Rudy getting irrelevant after this episode until volume 8
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>>102208219
>He likes killing.
Gamer enjoys game, this is somehow bad?

>Shiroe is all fucking stats and strats and a pedo to boot.
One of us, one of us.

>Isuzu doesn't get enough screen time but seems like a good guy who just needs to get laid.
She ... okay?

>Akatsuki is too clingy and obedient to Shiroe and just rolls by on her cute factor even if she is good at ninja.
Actually she gets by on being a level 90 ninja.

>Lenessia is a meek lander
Yep.

>I wanna see what Meeow can do in a fucking real fight
Like when he took down the Monk in the first fucking arc, you amnesiac twat?

>Rudy actually seems interesting
Yep.
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>>102208324
Shit sorry I got confused there. I mean wotsisface who is being shipped with Mariel? I am not very good with names.>>102205283
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>>102207887
Yeah it's Isuzu in a dress from next episode
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>>102208467
IS SHE WEARING FRECKLE CONCEALER?!

THIS IS A FUCKING CRIME
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>>102208219
>Krusty is such a dick. You can see it when he kills the goblin king. He likes killing. He also pretends he is some kinda Cassanova with Lenessia. The guy is a douchebag.
That's why he's interesting though. Madman berserker who makes everyone think he's actually a nice guy.
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>>102208564
>"But I scribe from there!"
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>Voy
>Eyo son, gimme dat vlad
>0/1/1
>50 cs behind
This shit doesn't make any sense at all. He doesn't do anything in the comp and he sure as fuck doesn't do anything in lane, apart getting his asshole prolapsed.

The fuck is Voy doing and why is he considered not shit?
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>>102208458
Also Isuzu is Rudy's ship right? You are also right about me thinking it was the goblin king. They made a thing of showing this goblin with a feather hat so I assumed it was him.
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>>102208458
In the next volume then
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And people in big guilds are usually douches
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>>102208458
Novel has been shipping Maryelle x Naotsugu since they first meet in chapter 1, or whenever it was.
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>>102208736
Is this for real or some comicon shit? Looks extremely faggoty.

>Naotsugu

No wonder I can never remember his fucking name.

Sorry I've been smoking some shit and watched the last episode while blazing.
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>>102208951
Are you for real?
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>>102202839
>Builds
Even an Enchanter can put out enough damage to put Sorcerers to shame, with the right equipment.
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>>102206617
Look that means they can used gear in specialized ways and different skills suited to their class but passive buffs do exist and movement-speed is one of them.
A pathfinder is for example faster (passive buff) and can track and scout (active skills like enhanced eye-sight).

For my part i think that the class system in ET would be quite bad. I'd set it up this way if i were to make a class system in a real game:
- 1 combat based class+1 support based class + job/roleplaying subclass
- you can learn skills from different subcalsses but can only reach half of the maximum level cap in them
- change the enchanter to being the bulkyest mage character with defense on pair with the samurai class (seriously what kind of balancing are they doing by making all dem frail wizards+enchanters can hardly deal damage so paper thin defenses don't make sense).
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>>102209117
Also called "Using you disables properly" and "Spamming the shit out of everybody" build?
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>>102209117
>That guardian
Is that.... A girl? I wanna bone it
>That Swashbuckler
Holy shit that looks cool
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>>102198239
>>102198343
but he could already join a party. game-mechanics wise a party is not that different from a guild.
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>>102209260
What do you mean, there are plenty MMO's where a NPC joins your party for a quest or something. But I can't think of one where one will join a guild.
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>>102198950
because only nerds wear glasses, everyone else wears contacts
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>>102208616
/lolg/ =/= /LHG/
Go back to your database.

>>102208835
I have no qualms with this ship. Hopefully the rest of the MCs get theirs soon.

>>102209117
That Bard on the right looks brilliant. Is he one of the cat-people? Do these guys get any focus in the LNs?
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>>102199468
>incredible NPC AI
as if. they can't even start their own computer most of the time
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>>102209195
Sprinkler.
>The Sprinkler build shouldn't exist in the first place, but a certain expansion pack implemented the item "Scarab of Rainfall", which strengthened the synergy with "Cast on Beat". This is where it began. After that, many of these kinds of items were implemented. The Sprinkler is a relatively new build.
>The main damage spell is "Pulse Bullet", which excels at rapid-fire. With "Cast on Beat", it becomes even faster. Surging wave of 42 spells in 1 minute, magic bullets place down a bullet curtain. Can generate even more damage by combining it with "Mage Howling" to increase firepower, monsters HP vanishes before your eyes, looks as if there's a single bloke playing a 1-player shooting game.
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>>102209468
The parties of 6 belong to book 7, they're on a Raid with Shiroe. There're 4 parties, so it's a Full Raid.
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>>102209138
>Pathfinder
You mean Tracker, right?

>seriously what kind of balancing are they doing by making all dem frail wizards+enchanters can hardly deal damage so paper thin defenses don't make sense

What about Tanks? Their job is to get pummeled by monsters, and have limited skillset.
Casters have a multitude of skills, and to make up for that arsenal, they are glass.

The way I see it, there are two archetypes of a class:

Tanks=HP+Defense
Caster=MP+Offense

So in a way, a tank and a caster are dependent on each other. All the other classes are modeled from tanks and casters. Assassins and Monks are physical Casters, Clerics and Druids are magical Tanks.
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>>102209543
>"I don't understand what you're doing"
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>>102200168
>>102200271
no internet
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>>102209543
Must be paperthin to compensate for the firepower. Also mana-dependent.
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>>102207505
Why does Naotsugu talk about pantsu constantly, but when actually confronted with a girl he locks up? Why isn't he DESTROYING that Cleric girl?
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>>102209574
Pathfinder is Naotsugu's sub-class. Think it gives increased loot, increases movement speed and removes terrain mvmt penalties
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>>102209748
Obligatory correction!

It's G.I.R.L., not girl.
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>>102209770
Are you sure, all Mamare said was
>You gain more loot when you kill monsters, and you're able to sense when monster are nearby on the field.
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Why does everyone want Shiroe's dick?
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>>102209800
I dont even care. In the game world thats what matters.
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>>102209716
>paperthin
>mana-dependent
>mage classes
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>>102209817
Maybe that last part is tracker. Confused now
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>Guy creates a novel with enough detail about classes, builds, zones, and lore to actually create an MMO
>It hasn't been made yet

Why does everything have to get the .Hack treatment? Theres so much wasted potential.
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>>102209043
I'm a filthy casual who is overage (49), smokes the occasional blunt, watches a lot of anime but sometimes don't always follow the finer details. I also only game on occasion (Skyrim is my limit right now)

My braincells are dying.

I'll get my /out/ coat.
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>>102209884
>That Samurai
This pleases me
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>>102209895
That's actually correct. Tracker only gives you Sneak and Silent Move, IIRC. Pathfinders are for Raids, Trackers for Spying.

>>102209884
Thanks for stating the obvious, but thinner and more dependent than the average mage is what I meant.
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>>102209939
Damn grandpa, just remember these filenames are from pixiv
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>>102209748
Because he's actually pure like snow.

>>102209800
Naotsugu doesn't know that though.
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>>102210035
Aw, man. Talk about one heck of a tweest!
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>>102209550
>>102209628
Selfcest is best cest
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>>102210019
Why do some of my Pixiv saves in Firefox come up with empty files? I have to switch to Chrome to get them to save.
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>>102209748
Because he's just joking around. He's a pervert that loves making fun of people but is shit at dealing with actual advances.
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Jesus Roe2, you better show up soon and be that cute.
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>>102208219
>Isuzu
I hope you meant Isaac.
Also Isaac is the complete opposite of Crusty, calm and collected on the battlefield while offensive and aggressive outside of battle (secret good guy).
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Why do the goblins look like they have uncut dicks hanging from their faces?
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>>102210549
Because they do
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God, why is Aura Kingdom so shit?
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>>102210735
At least collecting Eidolons and Achievements' fun
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>>102209550
Wait does he realy get to meet his alt?
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>>102210828
Nobody knows. Just typical fan speculation and fanart.
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>>102187077
>No Misa.
And you expect me to act like this poll is from some reputable resource.
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>>102210828
I imagine it would be awkward for everyone if their alts came to life like the landers did. Then you had sex with the alt.
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>>102209574
Look not all mage classes should be paper thin.
An enchanter may be good at setting up the course of a raid or party battle but alone he can't do shit with the same ammount of HP as a Summoner who can at least leave one summon at his side to guard him. Enchanters should be more like support oriented battlemages wearing armour and having at least the average level of HP to compensate for complete lack of firepower.
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>>102210828
>>102210888
Mamare was the one who said Shiroe is going to meet his alt...and then came the fanart
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>>102210927
What subs are these? Or do you have custom sub styling setup?
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>>102211055
Mamare never said that. All he said was that she will appear. He never said where or how. For all we know it could just be a flashback.
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>>102211078
Horriblesubs.
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>>102211152
Oh, the font is different from their usual so it threw me off.

Kinda too small and close to the bottom imo
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Why is there hair in the OP?
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>>102211055
>Imagine Minori,Akatsuki and Henrietas confusion
>Imagine Isaac and Crusty going full dere for RO2
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>>102211333
Do you want spoilers?
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>>102211333
Because foreshadowing things in book 6 that won't even be in the anime.

Shiroe pulls out a penknife and push out the blade. He cuts off a part of his fringe awkwardly. The cut off hair shines strangely, numbering less than a bunch.

Akatsuki receives the knife from Shiroe and shave a small part of hair from her ponytail just like Shiroe did. She don't know why she did it, but she understand in her heart this is necessary.

They walk into the clear blue water and scatter the hair into the sea.

The sound of crystal colliding came from somewhere as if to acknowledge the receipt of something and the snow that don't feel cold flies all around them.

Akatsuki understands these specks are the memories of everyone.

Death doesn't rob people of their memories, it is the people who offers their memories for the chance to live again. Even if she doesn't recall, deep in her heart is the desire to rise again, that's what Akatsuki knows.
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>>102211333
Because you don't read the novels

Seriously it's reference to something that hasn't been revealed in the anime

When you die and go to moon, you willingly cut off a part of your hair and this symbolizes/results in you losing a bit of your memory in exchange for being revived at a Cathedral/getting another chance to live.
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>>102187137
>Shiroe x Akatsuki
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>>102211440
>>102211457
>>102211492
So...the Moon is Heaven?
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>>102211245
I just changed the default subtitle size and position so they don't cover the whole screen while I'm watching shit.
Inb4 shitty mediaplayer.
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>>102211549
Nureha, pls. Nobody wants sluts like you.
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>>102211457
>>102211492

guys
guys
heyguys
what if
guys
what if

what if you're bald?
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>>102211440
>>102211457
>>102211492
Not much of a spoiler.

I have actually read the novels but I totally forgot about that. I'd love it if the person translating them had a better grasp of english..
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>>102211152
Thats not Horriblesubs. You must be doing something wrong. What codecs and player?
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>>102211637
I do
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>>102211652
You don´t come back
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>>102211652
Your head isn't the only place where you have hair, you know
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>>102187077
>1. Lenessia 2342. Akatsuki 231
>akatsuki still #2
Good, Good.
The pure is showing.
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Shiroe = Hitler

Just so you are aware. And not the good Hitler but the common knowledge Hitler
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>>102211660
Oh ha nevermind. Novel 6 was just translated wasn't it?
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>>102211637
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>>102211637
If they ever release the part about Naureha everyone on /a/ will have too many feels to care.
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>>102211549
>hint of skin

My dick. Literature girl is really quite thin
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>>102211708
>offering pube memories to come back
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>>102211764
They'll ruin her backstory. Because NHK-E.
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>>102211832
They will substitute the sex with just "going out" and the abuse with people saying bad things to her.
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>>102209550
>Yfw he meets his alt and she has the same personality he had while playing as her..
>Yfw she acts like a qt little girl.
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>>102211873
>people saying bad things to her
Classic dose of nippon joushikousei bullying/rumor mill assault would fit best.
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>>102211945
It was hinted that Shiroe's new "overskill" would be switching characters
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>>102200168
Krusty missed his cat.
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>>102211873
Nah. They'll just omit Nureha out of the anime. She's too vulgar and dirty for kids to see
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>>102211820
Oh 4chan, you never disappoint.
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Did anyone talk to the goblins before deciding to kill them all?
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>>102212097
creep. he and Isaac are total opposites.
Isaac is rowdy on the outside but calm and collected otherwise while Crusty is a crazy man pretending to be normal.
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>>102212279
I wanted some adventurer to betray his people and give information to the Goblin King in exchange of control over a high portion of land.
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>>102212347
I wanted them to listen to the grievances of the Goblin kind before wiping them out
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>>102212279
>Negotiating with xeno scum
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>>102212279
Nah, they attacked first, they don't get negotiations or surrenders
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>>102212279
>Hey, could you please stop with the raping and pillaging?
>WAAAAAAGH

And then all of the Landers died.
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>>102212465
who knows, maybe gobbos were also dragged to that world from their own world and died so many times that they lost their memories and became like that.
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>>102212663
>I didn't watch the show
They were the souls of the people who were part of the earlier wars who can't rest in peace
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>>102212663
they were created from bits and pieces of dead people. they were always crazy.
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>>102212279
Well, they killed a General, not the King.
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>>102197642
For a few centuries mankind made gunpowder via peeing on the proper things. Presumably there's a way.

>>102204544
It still doesn't mean shit for centuries because you'd need a lv 90 scribe and a limited amount of phantasmal ingredients to do it No lander is going to be able to make that scroll for longer than adventurers and demihumans have even existed since it needs rudy (or some random lander turned adventurer who doesn't exist yet) to cap scribe. It requires a player to waste immensely valuable stuff on some random retard while being smart enough to know how to make it. By the time any of that stuff happens the players might figure out a way to stop demihumans from existing or tell the landers to fuck off and fight their own wars with some mass adventurer spell as they ditch Elder Tale.
>>102209138
Ever tried to beat a red mage in final fantasy 11? They solo stuff by boring it to death.Them having high level of defense to boot would be overpowered.
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So...Shiroe will eventually find the "Heart of Elder Tale" or something like that and make a contract with it to cause the Forth Impact and return everyone to their boring and shitty everyday lives, unable of becoming heroes or living epic adventures ever again.
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>>102214681
It's a game. Nothing serious.
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>>102214681
But then they get to be overworked salarymen who spend every night drinking themselves to oblivion in an effort to forget their miserable existence.

And apparently that's what Japan wants more than anything.
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>>102212279
For what purpose?
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>>102214867
>" I used to be a hero. I killed hordes of goblins and seduced princesses. Women lost their minds at the mere sight of my godmade body and every men wanted to be like me."
>" Yeah, yeah, you sure were, 'Krusty'-kun. Now go back to work. That coffe isn´t going to make itself, 'hero'."
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>>102215169
>Krusty becomes a mass murderer



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