>Normalfag Problems: the movie.
Why is this trash so highly rated, even here? I am genuinely at a loss.
/a/ secretly desire to be normalfags and to have led fulfilling highschool lives.
It really sucks cock, like all Shinkai films really.
1. Its pretty
2. Its the kind of shit that normalfags consider "deep"
The movie is bad because it's about young love?
If you're going to criticize the subject matter you need to try harder than that.
>The decade-long story of several attractive, popular people who don't have any real problems, but spend the entirety of the film in perpetual angst.
10/10. Compelling and rich.
Shinkai films don't even have a story. They're just teenage emo bullshit with pretty art and animation.
5 wallpapers/second is right. The only redeeming quality of this garbo movie are the wallpapers.
It was a really fucking weak plot. I've also watched Garden of Words and had that same feeling. Are all of his movies this same shit?
>His opinion differs from mine, so it must be bait!
Maybe you should move to a thirld-world shithole so you can start having real problems.
I watched it with my GF. She really liked it.
She does watch anime occasionally though (Case Closed and Mizayaki films) so your results may var.
>don't have any real problems
>Hurr durr They need to suffer more for me to care
How pretentious can you be.
Didn't have enough bells and whistles for you?
It was subtle, telling a simple enjoyable story. There's enough to like and nothing really to hate. Not saying it was PERFECT, but hey it was cute. Thumbs up for 5 wallpapers per second.
Because it's better than your favorite anime.
It's a story without any conflict. The 'distance' between the characters becomes irrelevant by the second part.
Having a gf
Because a lot of people here sure have their own share of imaginary wishful relationships.
Why would normalfags be irrelevant? Romeo and Juliet are normalfags.
More like Teenage Problems: the movie
I know, and you're right. There's no conflict, but the simple nature of the movie means simple problems, simple solutions. I personal enjoyed.
What the fuck are you trying to say?
Hard for me to feel sad about a person that gains multiple love interest throughout his life
surely he'll not be with the girl he loved since childhood but he has a lot of others to choose from. Had as much drama as a harem series.
then there was that jarring ED
Simple? Yes the stories are simple. Is it wrong to have a simple plot? Do things need to be exaggerated all the time in order for you to find them meaningful. It's about problems that a contemporary person might encounter.
What's next? Yotsuba is shit because there's never any conflict?
>It's a story without any conflict.
Oh, so you're one of those edgyfags who stumbled upon /a/ because SnK. Got it.
Surprise, not all anime revolve around MCs who are virgin NEET otaku neckbeards.
It works because we were all normalfags once.
Meaning we can still relate and get pissed off at the characters.
>It was subtle
No it wasn't. It was rubbing in the theme of the movie the entire time. Just look at the god damn name, and the main song.
>There's enough to like and nothing really to hate
Other than, you know, the characters it revolved around.
I've never had a gf before in my life.
I've never fallen in love before too.
>Garden of Words
Go back to your shonenshit
>Romeo and Juliet are normalfags.
Actually, I'd argue that Romeo and Juliet are more closer to /a/ than 5/shits a second is.
Romeo and Juliet fell in love at first sight, seeing the other as their ideal/dream person, then pursued that madly without thinking or worrying about anything else.
Close, I'm someone who understands basic storytelling principles.
Nice buzzwords, though.
>It works because we were all normalfags once.
Nope. Speak for yourself. I've always been a degenerate who rejected 3DPD.
What would be a relatable dramatic arc for you, anon? A boy wakes up at his computer chair for the second week in a row, still scared of the world and too insecure to interact with others without crippling anxiety, but needs to eat and has to find a way to ask his parents for more money? And a stuttering phone call ensues?
Gotta be close
I am not sure you understand the real meaning. The main message of the anime is "Life will eventually crush your dreams". It was just told by using the love of 2 young children who grew up. I am not sure most people here on /a/ can see past what's actually on the screen when it comes to anime with deep meaning.
I like the ending. I think it is a happy ending. It puts you through all of his trauma to then overcome it in a simple montage. The main character moves on with his life, witch is kinda the point of the whole movie. It is really well put together, since it starts pretending to be a romance to then turning all on its head.
I think most poeple who hate it and claim it is just pretty pictures are fucking stupid and should start paying attention to the shit they watch.
>The main message of the anime is "Life will eventually crush your dreams"
They literally explain this to you in the movie. The god damn message is in the name of the movie. How could you get it so wrong?
Here's a revelation for you:
There are people who like conflict-free story. Surprising, huh?
i know..that's why OP is a fag.
The primary focus all Shinkai films is the introspection of human condition and its role in contemporary society. In this case it's barriers.
Conflict comes with the human condition no matter how trivial the problems might seem.
>I've never striven for the things I really want (friends, girlfriend, meaningful relationships in general) because of overwhelming self-loathing and severe lack of charisma
>Can this be a badge of honor here? Can this be a place where we all agree we don't talk about the things we decided not to think about anymore?
Is your time really that worthless?
Oh please, just because I describe myself as a degenerate doesn't mean that I don't have any friends, or charisma. I may be introverted, but that doesn't mean I can't socialize when the situation calls for it.
We watch anime. That's time wasted.
How cute: He thinks "conflict-free" means "devoid of meaning!" One day he'll think about what he posted tonight and laugh.
Not worthless enough to watch and talk about things that I don't like.
MOST anime is about "normalfag problems". There aren't a whole lot of shows about shut-ins.
I like how you're condescending on /a/
also nice quads
This. All of my this.
I enjoyed it but then again I can somewhat relate to the characters. Everything worked together pretty well and I'm not saying it was mind blowing but personally it doesn't have any glaring problems.
Memories was much better than this. You guys just give this shit a pass because of the animation and because you're starved for more intelligent things. It wasn't bad because it was simple. It was bad because of weak characterization and no resolve.
I'm not talking about the OP, I'm talking about you. Here: >>102183193
The message is about dealing with the issue of people slowly drifting apart. It's not "Life will eventually crush your dreams". It's not deep, and you're a retard for completely missing a message that they shove in your face the entire time.
>You guys just give this shit a pass because of the animation
What's funny is that NHK is better than this.
Wait, what? You're Comparing 5cm per seconds to Memories? Why?
Sometimes things that happen in life never truly resolve themselves. Its part of the message anon.
Only if you are a shitty person
I'm saying that if the animation and background porn wasn't so good, people would look upon it much less favorably and wouldn't ignore the weak plot, characterization, lack of resolve and elements which add nothing to the story.
Short films with amazing animation, I thought of it because I've seen both of these in the last couple days.
For a few weeks now I've been having a really tough time figuring out who's baiting and who's serious. Sometimes I have to check if I'm still on the same website.
The animation was shit. There hardly even was any animation.
I can't remember what happened here but I liked the song towards the end.
i get what you are saying, but what i was talking about is the fact that OP didn't even get the message clearly explained in the movie. All he seems to have seen is the first layer - the visual imagery and the basic story line, nothing past that.
>It was bad because of weak characterization and no resolve
No resolve thing can be interpreted as a theme, you're going to face the same problems in life over and over, just because you have your heart broken once means you're immune from it in the future.
As for characterization the point wasn't to give them a definitive identity, but rather empathetic quality's that help you identify with the human problems they're having.
The manga made me fucking bawl but that movie put me to sleep.
don't ever watch Angels egg. Please for the love of god we don't need you people watching these kinds of films.
i don't think you have seen it.
Hands down one of the worst movies I've ever seen in my life.
Honestly I'm probably just burnt out on seeing the teen love theme repeatedly. I can't say that what it did wasn't well executed. Or maybe I I just had my expectations too high and it seemed bad in contrast to that. The way I've seen it talked about made me think it was going to be one of those films that's close to perfection.
Kino's journey had shit animation and backgrounds yet it's one of the few animes /a/ considers a masterpiece.
>problems all human beings can relate to
>lel normalfag progmeuls xd why isnt this show about magic and shit so I can forget my sorry excuse for a life and dream some 2D slutr is my gf
Probably because Kino's Journey was amazing everywhere else. I wouldn't say that animation was Monster's strongest point (but it certainly wasn't bad at all), and that's one of my favorites. No clue on how /a/ feels about it, but I couldn't care less.
This. You can count the amount of Hiiki/NEET-centric shows on one hand, OP. How many anime are NOT about normalfag problems?
Movie isn't just about what you can see with your eyes.
Sometimes you just need to feel.
Not to mention Lain.
For fuck's sakes, I can't handle all this b8.
thats pretty deep bro you should tweet that and put it up on facebook
Except 5cm/s doesn't have a fucking plot you fag.
It's point isn't to tell a story.
>a great movie has faults
what's everyone getting so buttflustered about? Can't take a little criticism of something you percieve as perfect?
>problems all human beings can relate to
Sorry I'm not a little bitch who couldn't self-insert with the MC.
>totally not trying to fit in
Go away /v/. No one gives a shit about your "feels" meme.
Stop using terms you learned from tv tropes. Makes you just sound dumb.
Yes, I felt like throwing up after watching the movie because of how bad it was.
Of course these animes are good, but the reason why 5cm per second is regarded so highly is because it excels in its artistic qualities while also taking an unconventional narrative approach to such a rather simple subject matter not usually seen in anime.
Garden of Words gets a pass because of the soundtrack.
Based Kashiwa Daisuke.
>implying self-insertion originated from tvtropes
No, it's "regarded highly" because normalfags.
I actually enjoyed Garden of words for the first 2/3 of it. Got a little too melodramatic for my taste towards the end of it.
>/a/ suddenly likes 5cm per second
It finally happened.. the normalfags have invaded.
There are legitimate cases for accusing someone of taking a term from tvtropes but 'self insert' is not one of those. Assuming you're not trolling and you associate those two things together, you either learned it there or spent way too much time there yourself, ergo gb2/tvtropes/
it doesnt matter where it originated.
WHATS WRONG WITH FEDORA?
>Troll troll you're a troll stop trolling
>look at this gorespammer don't respond to the gore spammer gorespammer gorespammer
>b8 nice bait whats with all the bait 0/10 shit bait
there are normalfags on /a/, and it's somewhat acceptable to talk about that through the medium of anime, i guess.
>feel = meme
It's been highly regarded by ronery anons since 2008.
Please don't pretend you know what 4chan was like before you got here! http://archive.foolz.us/a/search/text/5%20Centimeters%20Per%20Second/order/asc/
Just because you don't suffer from normal person problems; doesn't make your own problems any more significant.
Unless you're autistic.
Please, there's always been two factions.
>sticks and stones may break my bones
>but words will never hurt me
/a/ isn't hikikomori shut-in like /jp/ you know.
We make contributions to society also to anime industry without relying to our parent shekel.
>/a/ suddenly hate 5cm/s
It's official, /v/ has invaded
his films are boring as fuck and melodramatic terrible characters The only reason to watch is for the nice art/animation.
Come to think of it, is there a single person on 4chan who actually dislikes Yotsuba?
the faggots who scream whenever someone posts a macro involving anime
Have you read any of those threads that you linked? The opinions expressed are similar to the ones expressed here. Everything after the first part was shitty.
Highly regarded it is not.
Also, the ones who did like it were gigantic faggots. Seriously, just read their posts.
There were some who said it was only good for the art, some who said the art alone made it worth watching, and some who legitimately enjoyed it.
There weren't really any who said it was normalfag/crossboarder shit. It was also received pretty well for the most part, even if it wasn't universally acclaimed as the greatest film of all time.
>There weren't really any who said it was normalfag/crossboarder shit
That's because we didn't have as big of a problem with those groups back then as we do now, so we just considered them fags.
Back then crossboarders were people who regularly used both boards, instead of the shit we get now where people decide to come over and post without doing any lurking.
>There weren't really any who said it was normalfag
There was, it was just not as aggressive or phrased differently. I remember people saying that you would have to be pretty normal and have these typical normal experiences to get much out if it.
>Hahahahahahahaha How The Fuck Is Cyber Bullying Real Hahahaha Nigga Just Walk Away From The Screen Like Nigga Close Your Eyes Haha
I don't disagree that they're fags, but I do take offense to the notion that they're normalfags or crossboarders.
The people who like the film aren't xbros or people who go out and have fun all the time - they're just cripplingly lonely for whatever reason and parts of the movie resonate with them as they go about their daily lives, likely filled with few joys beyond surfing the internet, browsing 4chan and watching their chinese cartoons.
That's my take on it, anyway. I am not omniscient and I don't know every single poster on /a/, but I find the notion that one must be a normalfag to enjoy the film a bit absurd. Then again, maybe the discourse is coming from our definitions of normalfag.
I think there's a difference between normalfag and having had some typical experiences.
People don't just start out at /a/ levels of cynicism and bitterness - you've got to learn that sort of thing over time.
It was only a matter of time, there's no place on earth which can fight off something so numerous successfully.
>I think there's a difference between normalfag and having had some typical experiences.
I wouldn't disagree as a general statement, but put into context of the movie, I'd say you'd have to definitely be more normal on the normalfag spectrum.
>but I find the notion that one must be a normalfag to enjoy the film a bit absurd
Just because you don't like to think so, doesn't make it any less true.
>maybe the discourse is coming from our definitions of normalfag
Even if currently they are a pathetic loser who watches chinese cartoons all the time, if they still yearn for a normalfag lifestyle then that makes them a normalfag.
Anonymous Sun Feb 24 2008 05:08:32 No.9818373 ViewReport
5 Centimeters Per Second if you want to see the most awesome art and animation ever.
This one's alright
Anonymous Sun Feb 24 2008 20:28:29 No.9831254 Report
Quoted By: >>9831305
The clue is in the title. Slowly and gradually, you let your friends and loved ones slip away at a minuscule pace, 5CM per second. It takes barely any effort to overcome, yet you let it happen anyway.
Maybe thats just how I think of it.
People confusing beautiful static shots with actual animation are never going to change.
Anonymous Sun Feb 24 2008 12:58:26 No.9831532 Report
Quoted By: >>9831572 >>9831636
This anime has some of the best animation and artistry I have ever seen. You could pretty much pause it at absolutely any point and get a brilliant picture.
Ok after reading a shit ton of replies from back then it looks like you guys still have the same answers
They were mostly:
''It's an anime about normal problems with normal people and pretty visuals''
Meant to type movie* not anime
I'm glad that we could all agree that you were wrong.
Wait wait wait I'm not that anon, I like this movie you dingus v:
Eat shit and die normalfag.
High production values.
Pun Pun does more or less the same thing and is fantastic. It's just poorly executed and lacks substance.
>You guys just give this shit a pass because of the animation
She and Her Cat is my favorite Shinkai work, what now, faggot?
Yotsuba is a thousand times more nuanced than any 5cm/s character.