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I know i am late as fuck, but i just finished TTGL and i am crying like a little bitch. Beautiful anime but why the hell did Yoko have to end up a sad single old woman ? My heart broke when i saw pic related. Help me feel better /a/ !
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>>102179940
>but why the hell did Yoko have to end up a sad single old woman?
kisses of death
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>>102179940
She's been fucking her students for years
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Because she was literally a slut who killed the two best baddasses of the series.
Also worst character.
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Because she is a fucking slut.
If anything she got off easy in comparison to her non-slut comrades
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>>102180108
well i fucking hope so, otherwise it would be just to sad
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She should have died in Kittan's place.

The guy had a family back home and she ended up living alone for the rest of her life on an island away from the rest of the group. Her alternate dimension trap revealed that she was still, and would forever be, hung up on a dead man.

Plus female GAR is nice.
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>>102180108
>fucking her students
>elementary school

I knew that slut had no standards
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>>102180137
>>102180167
nah you are just trying to act cool, you don't mean that
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dat chin doe
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>>102180224
No I really fucking do.
Simon ended up alone and lost his waifu.
Yoko got to live with a peaceful life teaching children.
Simon saved the world and Yoko was only there for fanservice.
She got off INCREDIBLY EASY

Now go fuck yourself slut-supporter
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>>102180224
You should have been here when it all happened.
You would understand his words.
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>>102180300
Didn't she bust Simon out of prison? It's been a long time since I've watched it.
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>>102180224
Yoko was only an eyecandy that killed Kamina and Kittan with her sluttery.
Fuck off.
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>>102180300
Hey now, Yoko was useful.

If it wasn't for her Kamina would still be alive.

...wait
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>those people taking Kamina as some kind of great character
He was a fucking manchild.
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>>102180300
>>102180447
>>102180449
you probably only remember the fan service because you are shallow but she did save plenty of ass during the show. She freed Simon from prison, she fought along in every major battle. She wasn't useless at all but you all just haters i guess.
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>>102180492
I grew up watching the WWF(E for you PG era kids) and my favorite wrestler was The Rock, Kamina was a replication of The Rock, maybe not as charismatic and electrifying but still...
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>>102180492

Finally some fuckin sense. I don't get why all of the sudden there is yoko hate.
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>>102179940
Go watch Gunbuster 1 and Gunbuster 2 (Diebuster). It's much better than TTGL and is the reason it even exists.
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>>102180492
He was a guy who put on a brave face, despite his own admitted inadequacy, because he knew Simon was meant for greater things.

The guy was a total bro.
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>>102180530
Scott, you just don't get ot, do ya? Ya don't.
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>>102180530
>She freed Simon from prison
That is the only significant thing she did and it could've been done by anyone else.
Also that means her only use came 10+ episodes after her introduction

>she fought along in every major battle
Yeah and she never did any significant damage nor did she ever defeat anyone herself

Yoko-fags please accept that she was only there for fanserivice
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>>102180492
he was a great guy and all but his only purpose was to guide Simon to the right path. His love for Yoko was a nice touch and added great sentimental value when he died. But i agree, his character was TOO much of a great guy, precisely because he was going to die fast, so his light had to burn up strong if you will.
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The hints were there from the beginning. Yoko was too independent to actually maintain a relationship, even if Kamina had survived they would have split inside a year.

Just think about it a little bit. Humanity advanced so far since the beginning of the series that Yoko had a chance to meet children who never knew the horrors of war or the constant terror of the anti-spirals' "population control." If there was any way to heal her mental scars, you'd be hard-pressed to find a better way than getting to enjoy the fruits of your victory every day.

>yfw Yoko is that cranky PTSD Vietnam vet teacher
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>>102180492
Who cares about Kamina? Kittan was killed by that bitch.
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>>102180684
well no point arguing with you...but seriously, nobody else thinks the way she ended up is sad ? i mean think about it from her POV....she lost 2 great guys and she probably closed her heart for life after that. I know you all like to be edgy/haters/trolls but why are you so afraid of honesty ?
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>>102180647
Yes. And that's the accurate way to interpret him.

>>102180684
She saved the school children by herself using a rifle instead of a Ganmen.
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>>102180781
Is not sad when it deserved.
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>>102180781
>she probably closed her heart for life after that
nah.
I don't believe that in the slightest
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>>102180764
how the fuck so ? are you retarded ? he sacrificed himself not for her but for the humanity...fucking thick people of /a/
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>>102180492
I really liked what Gainax did with Kamina, they made him look like the main character when in reality he was just a support character for the real main, and he was dumb yea, but i cried fucking manly tears when he came back on the latest episodes
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>>102180797
>taking down a shitty secondary half-assed villain
How impressive.

>>102180828
Kiss of death
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>>102179940
literally killed anyone she kissed
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You
Only
Kiss
Once
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>>102180797
Pretty sure she also saved Nia when she was held hostage.
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ttgl is shit and you're a faggot
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>>102180831
>they made him look like the main character
Do people actually thinks that? It was clear as water that Simon was the main character since the beggining.
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>>102180492
>Only person in village with a fucking spine
>Role model for Simon
>Does so even knowing that he's kind of useless at things, but keeps acting the way he does hoping Simon will man up
>Still goes onto be first human to steal a Ganmen
>First person to organize efforts against Spiral King (sort of inadvertently)
>When people have no idea what Spiral energy is, pulls out the first Giga Drill Break while sustaining a fucking Ganmen spear stab wound

Not to mention that the nigga was really fucking charismatic. He was only around for 8 episodes and his impression is huge.
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>>102180684

>Yeah and she never did any significant damage nor did she ever defeat anyone herself

True, but there were several times when characters were about to die but Yoko blocked/deflected the attack. It's no Giga Drill Break but she definitely saved Simon and Kamina from dying multiple times.
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>>102180855
he kissed her...she had no intention in that moment
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>>102180646
Hm, I dunno about "better". I enjoyed all three for what they were.

It's honestly really interesting to think about how Gunbuster -> NGE -> Diebuster -> TTGL signify the evolution of mecha anime.
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>>102180903
co-main at least
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>caring about a mascot character

You can literally cut her out of the story and nothing changes plot wise
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>>102180855
But you said
>she never defeated anyone by herself

No one saved for Simon and Kamina ever defeated any major villains in the show.

Yoko did help out with assists multiple times though and kept people from dying. Also broke Simon and Viral out of jail.
>but anyone could have done that
Did you forget most of the world was being evacuated to try and avoid moon death?
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Yoko's only role was fanservice.
If her entire character was replace with a male literally no one on /a/ would remember who she was
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>>102180869
>>102180879
>>102180855
the second guy kissed her, she didn't even intend for it. He knew he was gonna die there.
>>102180898
fuck off
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>>102180963
Viral would have killed Kamina way early on if she didn't exist
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>>102181000
>If Yoko was replaced by a dude
Then people would remember TTGL as a homosex anime and call it shit.
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>>102181019

They could have made simon interfere and nothing of value would have lost or gained
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>Gets a lot of flak for her kiss of death
>Only kissed Kamina
>After he died, she hid herself away on an island, never to kiss again
>Only came back because Simon got put in jail and he needed to save the Universe
>Was going to sacrifice herself to save the crew, be with her dead boyfriend, and finally seal away the power of her kiss forever
>Kittan ambushes her with a kiss when she isn't looking

Yoko never meant to hurt anybody. It's not her fault.
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>>102180996
>But you said
>she never defeated anyone by herself
That was not me you freaking faggot
The only thing she did is the jail thingie everything else is filler that any extra would do, she was only there for fanservice reasons otherwise she wouldn't be a boobed monster.
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>>102181079
well i think you are the first one to truly defend her so far. thanks
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Reeks of reddit.
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>>102179940
>implying Yoko and Simon are not fucking whenever Simon visits her school
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>>102179940

She had so much dicking as teen that no one wants her now. True story
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>>102181124
if she was some dude nobody would like TTGL as much. Even if she was fanservice she is one of the most iconic characters of the show, particularly because of that. And she wasn't useless. She had a lot of moments where she saved the MCs
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sometimes i like to imagine what woulda happen if Kamina never died
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>>102181124
She was the only person who took on Ganmen and was at least somewhat effective while on foot compared to everyone else.

And besides the main characters and maybe Boota who existed for exactly one plot device, everyone else was equally replaceable.

>why is she a boobed monster
Because anime. Why is KLK ass and titties flying everywhere?
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>>102181185
i bet you just came from there
>>102181217
damn kids why are you here
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>>102181243
>kamina lives
>simon dies

How does this effect the series
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It always bothered me that Kittan sacrificed himself because he loved her but in her alternate dimension fantasy world he wasn't even there. It was all unrequited. Even his sacrifice didn't earn her love, she was still hung up on Kamina.
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>>102181068
But that's not

>You can literally cut her out of the story and nothing changes plot wise

If you were to cut her out, that's what would have changed.
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I wish I could have been on /a/ to watch this with everyone and take part in the threads.

At least I'm here for KLK.
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>>102181295
he didn't sacrifice himself for her jeez ! yeah he loved her but he did it for everybody else. why won't people learn that
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>>102181243
Simon remains a coward up until they get to the Spiral King. Simon never finds Nia because he never wanders into that dump. She dies in that box. Genome beats them all down because Simon doesn't get crazy on his ass.

ALTERNATIVELY.
Kamina is bedridden/wheelchair bound for rest of campaign because of injuries. Yoko dotes on him whenever they aren't in a fight. Simon forced to man up. Other stuff happens as is. Kamina probably forces his way into Gurren during the last fight and sacrifices himself for Simon in some way.
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>>102181231
>all this backpedaling
Yeah it's iconic as "that girl with big boobs who killed Kamina" and that's all her character.

>>102181273
> who took on Ganmen and was at least somewhat effective
>Viral
>Kittan
>The little brats
If any she was equally replaceable like one of Kittan's sisters or that guy who died in battle.

>Why is KLK ass and titties flying everywhere
Deconstruction of Fanservice
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>>102181307

actually it is. I was playing along with you in your hypothetical, we wouldn't know if Viral would have killed Kamina.
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She died a single sad woman because she developed a very bad case of manface in her later years, just look at that fucking chin.
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>>102179940

Funny co-incidence, I just finished TTGL the night before last.

Good series, a lot of great moments, but honesly the first half was WAY better than the second half.

The first was optimistic, was victorious, the second half was just everything going wrong and all the best characters dying.

Rossiu instantly jumping to "Lets execute Simon" was bullshit and the fact he got zero commeupance besides having to admit he wasn't part of the Gurren Brigade anymore was bullshit.

Nia's death was pointless and clearly thrown in just for the sake of a sad ending.

They never clearly explain where she came from, she was an Anti-Spiral creation... But also Lord Genome's daughter? And he'd had heaps of them before? How does that work?

And why does killing the Anti-Spiral kill her? They never explain that at all, it's literally just contrived to be sad.

And then, hey, maybe Simon could ressurect her (to be fair, we don't know if he could or couldn't), NOPE, that wouldn't be right. Come on, principles are fine, but you can ressurect/save one fucking girl, ffs.

So then we get the typical "Virgin Hobo" ending for Simon and "Virgin Spinster" ending for Yoko because both of their loves were too pure blahblah.

FFS. He gives up all his power (no core drill means nothing) and achieves all of what, nothing? What's he even doing post series? Just walking around? It's ridiculous.

It's even more ridiculous when you have him talking about how he's gonna prevent Spiral Nemesis... But then he just spends his life walking around. Good job working to prevent that shit.

Sad ending literally only for the sake of being sad. Stupid.
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>>102180684
She saved kamina, simon and nia on separate occasions.
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>>102181386
>At least I'm here for KLK.
not much of a consolation is it
btw it was an awesome time to be on /ɐ/
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>"Kiss of death" is a valid point now
Oh wow
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>>102180530

She was the one that blasted open the Anti-Spiral's home planet.

Plus she saved Nia, saved Simon, she did plenty throughout the series.

Saying she killed Kamina is ridiculous, that was Simon's fault.

Saying she killed Kittan is equally ridiculous, he died no different to any of the other Gurren brigade

The person who got away scott free with bullshit was Rossiu and that bitch sister of Kittan's who didn't even visit her neiece in hospital.
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>>102181535

Could have been worse.

It could have been the ending to the second Kenshin OVA series. That has now been wiped from my memory.
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>>102181433
I wasn't the guy who originally disagreed with you, but come on, man. If they were to cut her out, the romance sub plot would have been lost and not only that, but the many instances where she saved people, including Simon and Kamina. And don't tell me the romance didn't matter, it matters, it's the fucking story, whether you enjoyed it or not it's apart of the story. I don't really know what you're trying to say by stating nothing would change, either, I get that she isn't important as other characters, but regardless she has certain roles she played, and if anyone else played them the story would be different.
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>>102181535
Lord genome just picks out pretty girls from the villages and takes them as his daughteru.

If he could resurrect Nia, then what would stop him from resurrecting Kamina, Kittan, everyone else that died, stop everyone from dying ever again. That goes back to the spiral nemesis.

>>102181663
This. Rossiu is the truly scumbag piece of shit of the series.
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If you're gonna talk about ancilliary characters you can cut out pretty much all the supporting cast aside from Kittan.

Botta for example.

In the first episode we see Simon directing a giant Gurren Lagan in what appears to be some amazing giant war, with Boota as his second in command.

Then... That never fucking happens. What was the point of that scene? Fuck that.

Instead Boota provides food once in a joke scene and sort'a helps against the Anti-Spiral for a bit.

Also: Yoko did see herself marrying Kittan in an alternate universe, the point was that like Simon, it was Kamina that brought her back to her senses.
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>>102181535
Even funnier considering I just finished it yesterday.
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>>102181745

>implying I didn't enjoy it

I did but what makes me irritated is people who over emphasize her role in the story. She is the taxi cab driver who gets the protagonist home. She does nothing more than project for the main characters, and that is fine. Stories do need a one dimensional character to further explore another character's attributes, Not everyone has to be a fully developed character. All I ask is stop trying to make her out as something she is not.
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>>102181048
Yeah but people do that anyway.
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>>102180492
>Being this retarded.
>Not realizing that Kamina despite his 'manchild' antics can do shits no one else did in the series.
>Charismatic as Hitlet
>Capable to do shits he brags
>Gets all them bitches
>Wouldn't steal his brothers possesion
>Beaten the crap out of Viral on their 2nd encounter
>Made his name renowned through out the world
>Leader the only group capable of mounting resistance against gunmens
The only reason they were able to advance further is because of Kamina's ingenious antics.

tl;dr Kamina is Great character, your opinion is invalid.
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>>102181535
Oh and also:
>no core drill means nothing

TTGL is just a way for him to channel his spiral power. He still has his powers, just like lordgenome did as seen by his spiral eyes at the end.

He chooses to do nothing because anti-spiral was right, he just goes about it in a different manner to what lordgenome did after he went through the same thing.
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>>102181740

Could have been worse, sure, but it was still clearly just sad for the sake of being sad.

>>102181765
>Lord genome just picks out pretty girls from the villages and takes them as his daughteru.

And she just happened to be a creation of the Anti-Spirals? Very, very contrived. Also conjecture.

>If he could resurrect Nia, then what would stop him from resurrecting Kamina, Kittan, everyone else that died, stop everyone from dying ever again. That goes back to the spiral nemesis.

Conjecture.

We don't even know if he could ressurect anyone. Potentially instead of ressurecting Nia he could have just prevented her death in the first place, she was already "Tainted" with Spiral Energy, so it seems he could'a just given her more and kept her alive.

And even so, ressurecting a handful of people doesn't nescessarily have anything to do with Spiral Nemesis. Not any worse than the fact that Spiral Energy is now boundless and out of control, he may resist but someone is going to, he's doing NOTHING to keep his promise at the end.

Really though, saving or ressurecting Nia is beside the point. The point is that her death was only thrown in for a pointlessly sad ending.

Every likeable main character dies except Simon and Yoko, both of which get terrible endings.

Even Leeron lost my respect in Part2 when he betrayed Simon to side with Rossiu.
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The stupidity in this thread is astounding...

Kittan sacrificing himself for Yoko? No. He wanted to be a hero, save humanity and was jealous that his friends died fighting.

Yoko is a slut because she kissed Kamina? Nigga, even guys want to kiss Kamina. Wanting to fuck Kamina should be an obligation on every human being.

This is TTGL's intended audience: a bunch of retarded teenage males.
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>>102181993
>And she just happened to be a creation of the Anti-Spirals? Very, very contrived. Also conjecture.

Yes that is literally what happens. Anti-spiral even says this in the anime. They left a life form on each planet to keep check on the progress of them all and it just so happened to be Nia.
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>>102181942
I agree with your view on it, then. Let's kiss and make-up.
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>>102181977

Actually that's probably true.

Okay so he's got great power, but he still has a Virgin Hobo ending for literally no reason.

By the end of the series he's stepped up to be a great leader, he's charismatic, he's enthusiastic, he's a better version of Kaima.

So why is he just walking around?

Why isn't he helping? If not as the Human's Commander, why isn't he working as their representative to the other races? Why isn't he helping educate people about Spiral Power and how to control it to not cause Spiral Nemesis?

Why didn't they at least hook him up with Yoko since they both end up sad and alone.

FFS. Sad for the sake of being sad.
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>>102181846
When Boota transformed I was really put off. I thought there was gonna be more of that and I was actually look forward to it. Then, it was dropped and never really mentioned. Granted, things were moving fast at that point but still.
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>>102181295
Are you fucking retarded, in the screen Kamina holds up she is fucking getting married to Kittan.
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>>102182040

agreenent, on /a/? Holy shit give me a high five
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>>102181535
It's metaphorical, go back and think about it.
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>>102181972
Kamina's job was to help Simon get a head start. He learned to walk on his own, but he could only do so because Kamina taught him how to stand.
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>>102182007
>He wanted to be a hero, save humanity and was jealous that his friends died fighting.

I really don't think that was his motivation, that's a really unnescessarily cyncical interpretation.

He wanted to save his friends and protect those precious to him. He was willing to throw away his life to do so.

>>102182033

And you don't think that's incredibly contrived? And stupid?

They leave one person on the planet? What happens when she dies then? Is she replaced? Were there previous messengers before her?

And of all the people possible Lord Genome just happens to pick the one that's the messenger of the people he spent his whole life fighting... And doesn't notice?

She's apparently made up only from the Anti-Spirals, to the point where her existence is linked to theirs. So why can't he tell?

Contrived and stupid. Clearly just thrown together later to up the stakes and then to give Simon a sad ending.
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>>102182092
Man, I'm pretty fuckin' sure he drilled Nia's asshole raw while screaming GIGA HYMEN BREAAKAAAA. I mean, really, man. Really.
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>>102182219
Because the anti-spiral gene in her was only activated when the millionth baby was born.
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>>102182183
>It's metaphorical, go back and think about it.

This is why I hate when authors shoe-horn in needlessly sad endings for no reason.

Because a portion of the fanbase will always defend them to their dying day as "Deeper" and "More meaningful" because they like to imagine sad, cynical endings are realistic.

God forbid people be happy.

All I'll say is, people still defend the ME3 ending using those exact words.
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>>102181535
>simon
>virgin
Did you forget that he was running around with Nia for seven years? There's no way nothing happened. Hell, go rewatch episode 15 and get a look at them flying back together in Lagann. He probably hit it that fucking night.
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>>102181993
A large theme in the show was moving forward in life. People die. People are born. Life goes on. Simon bringing people back to life is flies completely in the face of this and invalidates all of his character growth throughout the show.

This is a really stupid point for you to be upset with and I have no idea why it's such a sticking point for you.
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I am going to explain why Yoko isn't a slut.

First off, her clothes: She clearly explains that she doesn't like her movement being restricted [for combat purposes]. This is why I myself don't wear jeans.

Second: To add to the first point, after the time-skip we see she's trying to keep a low profile wearing a VERY modest outfit (see no combat roles here) and do her best to teach young children of the new age. Why? She didn't want fame nor recognition, just a small place in the world for her to make a difference.

Third: Kittan kisses HER. He knew he would die and just wanted to taste something HE lusted after.

Fourth: Although not as strong as previous arguments, in the beginning the village seems to immediately see her attraction to Kamina to the point of letting THEIR BEST SNIPER tag along with these kids out-of-the-blue. This could be seen as he was the first (and kinda only) guy she was ever interested in.

All-in-all she had a parallel lifestyle to Simon, but some people can't except that fact. They BOTH lost the loves of their lives. They BOTH ended up dying alone. End of story.
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>>102182236

That's pretty much my headcanon, they had 10 days together before they were married. I really do hope they didn't decide to wait.

Also: I doubt he was trying to break her hymen if he was drilling her ass? Unless... That's the strength of Simon's Spiral Power...

>>102182275

Yeah? How's that work exactly?

Oh right it's just something they made up to up the stakes in Part 2.

"Oh yeah? We said she was Genomes daughter... Uh, whatever. Nah, she was an Anti-Spiral creation all along!"

If you want to argue that the whole series was planned out cohesively then literally the first 5 mins of Episode 1 will prove you wrong.
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>>102182219
>And doesn't notice?

Maybe he did notice.

Hence why he threw her in a casket and dumped her in a valley, and locked her away using a spiral key.

He just didn't take into account the fact that someone might actually also have a spiral key.
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>>102182286
Come on mate, it's not all supposed to be puppies and roses. For what it's worth, everyone who died did so in the most awesome way possible. I'd say that all things considered, it could be worse.
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>>102182361
>Third: Kittan kisses HER. He knew he would die and just wanted to taste something HE lusted after.

When Kittan did this I really started to feel sad. This is something I could see myself doing, you know. If I'm going off to die, I'd sure as hell get me a mouthful of Yoko or some other attractive woman. Fuck Kittan, why are you so based?
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>>102182325

He only just managed to propose to her after 7 years. Strikes me as pretty damn unlikely they were banging behind closed doors.

They had zero physical contact when together that implied any sort of sexual relationship.

If you wanna argue he slept with her then argue he did so before the wedding, in the 10 days they had together.

>>102182328

So Simon saving someone instead of letting them die flies in the face of that theme too? We'll ignore all the millions of times someone was saved then?

And again, it's not about whether or not he should have ressurected her (We don't even know if he could have) it's about the fact that her death was a stupid, contrived plot point that was shoe-horned in only to ensure a bittersweet ending.
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>>102182390
>Spoiler

His drill is the drill that will, no, did pierce the heavens, do you think some fucking flesh is enough to stop it? He could break her hymen with a kiss, if he wanted.
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>>102182390
>they had 10 days together before they were married
And you know, seven years together before shit got real again. There's no way he wasn't drilling her immediately or soon after the fight with Lord Genome, they were teenagers after all.
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>>102182518
Didn't the writer or someone pretty much confirm that Nia and Simon had sex?
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>>102182390
I'm just telling you what the story is anon.

>>102182518
Here you go again with this contrived plot nonsense.

She was an anti-spiral creation. All the anti-spirals were eliminated.
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>>102182518
>>102182518
Authors confirmed Simon to be non virgin
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>>102182480
>So this is spiral power
gives me chills to this day
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>>102182404

And all the other girls were Anti-Spiral messengers too then?

Even though he literally never said or even implied that was the case, nor was anything even similar to that said from his only trusted subordinate.

Even though he apologised for the way he treated her and never mentioned anything about her being dangerous or that they'd regret having her with them or blahblahblah.

Yeah. k

>>102182440

Yeah, this is the typical reaction.

Again, exactly how people defend ME3's ending. "Sad endings are more deep. It's not all puppies and roses."

That's a goddamn straw man and it's ridiculous.

Compare with say, Stephen Spielberg's War of the Worlds. Shoehorned in happy ending, terrible, ruined the whole movie with it's bullshit.

That's not what i'm saying, I'm saying shoe-horning plot devices to ensure it's sad for no reason is bullshit.

Mostly because it means we have to put up with people like you.
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>>102182600
Pretty much, IIRC the answer was basically "They were together for seven years, what do you think?"
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>>102182693
How does lord Genome reproduce in the first place?

Does he just jack off and his dick shoots out babies?

He has spiral power after-all. And you have to take into account that he was defeated once by the anti-spirals, and placed on the Earth to keep the population down.
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>>102182651
>>102182600

Oh? Source?

>>102182606
>She was an anti-spiral creation. All the anti-spirals were eliminated.

And... That means she dies... Why?

How does killing a creator kill the creation? Killing a man doesn't kill his house or his kids.

No explanation, just, oh it happens. Because, uh, they made her.

But she's also a Spiral Creation at this point, she's an irregular. Oh well, eh, whatever, she dies too.

>Here you go again with this contrived plot nonsense.
>nonsense

Sweet debating brosef
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>>102182518
>closed doors.
That's the key word, anon. We never saw them behind closed doors. Just because she's not giving him a lap dance in his office doesn't mean they're completely asexual.

>They had zero physical contact when together that implied any sort of sexual relationship.

Seven fucking years. You don't go out with someone for seven years and do nothing at all. That just isn't a thing that happens.
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>>102179940

What are you talking about?
That's clearly a man in drag. Look at that chin!
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>>102182785
>Seven fucking years. You don't go out with someone for seven years and do nothing at all. That just isn't a thing that happens.

Eh, whatever.

It's not an impression I ever got but I'm not gonna argue it, I liked the thought that they were together before the Wedding.

I never thought of them together during the time skip, but I've no problems with it, I really like Simon/Nia.

So hey, especially if the author's confirmed it. Cool.

He's just a hobo, not a Virgin hobo.

By that logic was Yoko banging Kittan?
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>>102182518
You keep spouting the word "contrived." Nia being the Anti-Spiral messenger is as contrived as there being Anti-Spirals in the first place. It's as contrived as Simon finding Lagann. It's as contrived as Simon having enough spiral energy to do half of the shit he does. It's as contrived as the entire show.

Would you stop?

The fact of the matter is that because of her role as the Anti-Spiral messenger, her body was artificial and her existence was linked to that of the Anti-Spirals. When they die, so does she. Her death just after the marriage isn't as CONTRIVED as her existing past their demise.
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>>102182781
>Oh? Source?
http://www.gainax.fr/forum/viewtopic.php?p=4516&sid=0a3829b4b76f4423d287b9bfa5773b1c#p4516
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>>102182693
>That's a goddamn straw man and it's ridiculous.

I really don't think you know what a strawman is.
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>>102182651
I'm gonna need a source.

On a side note, say Simon and Nia did fuck.

>L-like this Simon?
>Yeah...you put it there and hop up and down, like one of those bunny rabbits.
>What's a bunny rabbit?
>Okay nevermind. Here let me just get on top...there we go.
>W-what is this weird feeling? It feels good and hurts at the same time. Why am I bleeding?
>AAAAAAAAA
>I-is it over? Is it usually this short?
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>>102182996
>Implying Simon didn't inadvertently use his spiral power to turn her into a blubbering mess of a woman
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>>102182781
What are you trying to prove man?

It's a story where the characters, at the peak of their power, pilot giant robots throwing galaxies at eachother. So, if Spiral power is so great, why do they even need robots in the first place? The plot is stupid and ridiculous, you don't have to argue that.

Now, if you wanted to argue that the plot was poorly executed that's something different entirely.
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>>102180828
>he sacrificed himself not for her but for the humanity
That was fucking awesome.
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>>102183063
>that one gif where the man spins around with his dick in the girl

AND THAT'S HOW A DRILL WORKS
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>>102182996
>>102183063
He was probably on a massive spiral power high after fighting Lord Genome,
>Flashback to some vague advice from Kamina
>A DRILL IS A MAN'S SOUL, etc
>GIGA HYMEN BREAKAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Nia probably couldn't even walk straight the next day.
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>>102182996
I imagine sex is not unlike drilling. You know, feel around and try to find the best way through, keep a steady pace, etc.
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Kittan was the best man
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You
Only
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>>102181663
Yes thanks you!

I think all the Yoko hating faggots are just butthurt Niafags still bawwwing years later about their shit waifu having to die.
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>>102182781
Nia was a virtual and artificial being created and maintained by the Anti Spirals. When they're not around to maintain her, she dies.

Plus, you're arguing logic established within the show. Within the show, everyone that knew about Nia disappearing knew it was because the Anti-Spirals were no longer around. There was an established understanding within the show's universe that she would disappear with them gone. You might as well argue, "Spiral power would never have been enough to defeat [insert any of the bad guys here]!"
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>>102182849
Take that revolting scat off this thread!
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>>102183266
Hey, hold on. Nia wasn't bad. It was just that Yoko was so much better that she overshadowed Nia completely. If you compare her with the average girl, she's really quite good.
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>>102183201
He deffinately had the best death scene but overall as a character he was pretty average up until that point.
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>>102183212
>>102180879
Stop it. I don't care how well it fits, this shit wasn't good for any party involved.

This show is drawn too damn light to be this depressing. At least AoT/SnK they literally draw dark/bold outlines to their characters to fucking show how dark the series is
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>>102183316
I dropped TTGL several times because of Nia. She's a fucking insufferable cunt. Yoko has a really nice character design but her personality never developed into anything unique or interesting.

In the end Yoko just ended up being OK. But I would take run-of-the-mill character over autistic flower eyed "KAWAII" retard.
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>>102181663
yeah i agree, the Rossiu situation was really weird
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>>102182092
because his role is done. He played his part in this story, now he lets the next generation take over. What's so hard to understand ?
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>>102183495
ehh, no really, when you consider that the whole post timeskip Rossiu asshattery was only buildup to Simon wrecking everybody's shit, and that Rossiu was supposed to represent the legacy of Lordgenome.
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>>102182092
.So why is he just walking around?
Because he has to plant flowers everywhere for Nia like a faggot.
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>>102183450
i will never understand people who drop anime because of one character.
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>>102183795
Passion.
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>>102179940
TTGL is an /m/ topic. Go make a thread there.
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>>102183964
i refuse
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>that one fucking retard in this thread who got every single nitpicking detail to him explained beyond any reasonable doubt and still wouldnt quit.
jesus fucking christ the TTGL hatebase is absolutely fucking retarded.
>herp why diddd niaaa die.
>she was a spiral creation, the anti spiral EXPLICITLY said that if they were to die, nia would too, its a fucking plot point
>waahh noo contrived CONTRIVED NOO
>simon should have revived nia
>one of the main themes of the show was moving on, and simon had made a deal to the anti spiral. they had already won and simon had principles to follow, if he had revived nia that would go against his very ideals of drilling tunnels for the future generations to go through, and not allowing the dead to hinder that.
>WAAAH NO SAAD ENDING for the sake of sad ending nooo waah.
>yoko was a slut and killed kittan/kamina you only kiss once lol
>kisses kamina once, simons breakdown is what got him killed, saves simon and the brigade multiple times, exposes the antispiral homeplanet. and kittan had already accepted that he would die and stole a kiss from her
>WAAAH SHES A SLUT

fucking children who hate this show are completely pathetic. theres things you can legitimately nitpick, then theres just being a fucking retard
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>>102181535
It's sad because even though everyone calls TTGL a simplistic children's anime, so many people STILL misunderstand it.
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>>102184069
its fucking painful to read sometimes. its literally like going to MAL and reading the retards complain about the ending. infact, that retard you quoted pretty much sums it up.
>wah nia died no
>wah simon virgin hobo now no
>wah something clearly explained went over my head
>waah muh shipping
>waaah

christ.
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OP here, i just arrived at work, started this thread before i left home. I just finished reading everything and i just wanna say thanks to those who defend Yoko and the anime and fuck everybody else.

Also this is now a Yoko thread.
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TTGL is a poor man's Getter Robo. Even Gainax's own Gunbuster dealt with the themes better.
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>>102179940
She deserved it.
And kamina deserved his inevitable plot-device death.
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>>102184163
something i havent seen mentioned yet in regards to yoko.

remember one of the earlier episodes where (paraphrasing here) kamina talks of providing a better future for next generations children?

what better way does yoko attempt to fulfil kaminas wish?
becomes a teacher to help raise the next generation in a better world. its something a lot of people miss.

>>102184193
gunbuster was a completely different kettle of fish. TTGL was gainax's love letter to super robo. and its the last decent super robo show made as of yet.
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>>102184272
>TTGL was gainax's love letter to super robo.
Stealing and butchering from Getter =/= a love letter.
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>>102184305
Also yes more than just Getter, it's just that specific ripoff is the easiest to see.
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>>102184305
TTGL did everything getter tried and did it better anyway. i know its practically a meme now to shitpost getter>ttgl in ttgl threads now, but seriously, take of the nostalgia goggles.
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>>102184373
>i know its practically a meme now to shitpost getter>ttgl in ttgl threads now
Holy shit. Capitalize "i", don't call everything a meme, and don't call everything you disagree with shitposting.
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>>102184466
these kids that get all flustered over punctuation are adorable. and yeah no. getter>ttgl shitposting happens in every thread, you and your nostalgia goggles facilitated it.
its okay. atleast you still think getter is the best.
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>>102184550
Stop posting like you're on a forum.
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>>102184598
stop whinging like anyone gives a shit gramps.
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>the amount of retardation between both fans and anti-fans
At least the show is still fun to discuss with friends.
>>102184598
An Imageboard is a type of forum, Anon.
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>>102184688
>An Imageboard is a type of forum, Anon.
If you wanted to be a real tryhard you should have said that a forum is a physical public area, so I should have used the term "internet forum".
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I never understood why Lord Genome made Viral inmortal
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I guess the best won in the end.
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Will there ever be a better MC?
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>>102185283
He outright says it's so Viral can tell future generations about how standing up to him is futile.

Or do you mean why Viral specifically? That's probably just because he's more intelligent than the average beastman.
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>>102182781
>>102182935
http://www.japanator.com/the-secrets-of-gurren-lagann-answered--6714.phtml

>Did Simon and Nia 'do it' during the 7 year timeskip?
>During the seven year timeskip Simon and Nia did what had to be done.
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>>102181386
What happened in the sticky? I saw it when i was on my phone, and couldn't watch it til the day after.
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>>102185373
I always thought that Simon's star shades looked fucking stupid.

I appreciate the symbolism of them, but they could have at least went with a better design.
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>>102186672
You're just jealous that you will never get to obtain one, yet wear one and feel the spiral energy within you surge.
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>>102181535
You totally missed the point with the "virgin hobo" shit, it had nothing to do with purity.
It's a common trope in storytelling to have an adventurer go out and have his quest then return and find that they aren't suited to ruling; think Ulysses or Beowulf. Simon discovered at the beginning of the timeskip that he wasn't any good at the bureaucracy needed for to be a leader because he's to hot-headed and driven by emotions.
So instead he makes the world a better place the only way he knows how by doing small actions of goodness that maybe motivate a little more goodness out of people.
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>>102181535
people who really think the first half is better than the second deserve nothing more than a bullet to the neck, you deserve Auschwitz and Holodomor at the same time you filthy subhuman scum. I don´t like you!



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