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I'm into ep. 4 and HOLY SHIT, I'm so close from dropping this show.
Who would ever voluntarily want to deal with such a smug and belittling cunt, let alone be friends with?
Will she change her attitude - which she supposedly was going to do after ep. 2 or will she remain the same?
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Oh, anon...
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What's the problem?
Not enough of a subservient moe chuuni, faggot?
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Just drop it and go back to naruto, faggot
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No, but:
1. Focus shifts around to the other girls.
2. Rararagi realizes it's just her "schtick" and it's worth putting up with for the poon.
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watch it for monkey paw best girl
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>Not liking best girl
stay pleb OP
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ITT: OP didn't yet get to episode 12.
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Sorry, Anon, there are no braindead moeblobs in Monogatari.

Well, maybe Bake Nadeko.
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>>102162539
Been awhile, but I recall she did change and as >>102162861 states she is not really serious and is just messing around.
Just keep watching its explained and expanded on. Also for snail of course.
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I think she is charming and unique.
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>>102162798
>>102162988
I don't like moeshit, I also don't like wisecracking smartass thundercunts either.
>>102162861
>>102163277
I guess I will give it a chance then. I hope for my time that this is not a ruse.
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She's borderline psycho but in a cute way for Araragi so I assume same appeal as yanderes.
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>>102163653
GIVE IT A CHANCE, YOU MOE LOVING AUTIST
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>>102162539
>Who would ever voluntarily want to deal with such a smug and belittling cunt, let alone be friends with?

She's just playing around most of the time. Are you actually so insecure that you can't handle this weak ass ballbusting?

Crab cracks wise constantly but at least she actually respects who he is. Cat's actually way more condescending IMO, considering she's super nice about telling him how to live his life and basically treats him like a child. But even then I understand she does it with good intentions, and focusing on and helping others is a way that she deflects from her own problem. Crab does the same by being - mildly - insulting.

You sound like you have a lot of resentment towards people who think they're hot shit, or put up the facade that they do- but have never actually talked to any of them and figured out that they aren't doing it specifically to spite you. It's just a mindset that they choose.

In short: Grow a pair bitch.
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>>102164709
Note I don't even like Crab that much.
You just sound so whiny.
Hell, I cringe over people being condescending too. But she's so much so that I can't imagine she's being entirely genuine. There are some definite moments where you can tell it's mostly in jest.
And what she does mean seriously I don't think she intends to put people down, since as it goes on you see she does respect other people. It's just bluntness.
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I like her snarky exchanges with Araragi. They both rail on each other but it's all in good fun, with some honesty mixed in.
I appreciate the bluntness from Crab considering a lot of characters, especially female, like to pussyfoot around issues. She says straight up what she thinks and feels.
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I'd like to have someone like her to conversate with. Better than your average osananajimi type character and the tsundere.
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Why do people get offended when a character in the media they're consuming is mean to another character in said media?
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Having sex with her would be strange though. Would she get into or would she still berate you?

or both?
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>>102165911
I'm thinking both.
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>>102165889
Because said character being abused is probably the nondescript romcom protagonist they all self-insert as.
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>>102165889
They self insert way too hard
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>>102165911
Shed be really quiet and would only do it in missionary with the lights off in the dark.
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>>102165911
you know it'd be all gentle and love like.
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>>102165911
Both
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>>102164709
>In short: Grow a pair bitch.

You could have just said that and saved me from reading all of that nothing.
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>>102166103
w-what is that liquid
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>>102166103
Hitagi, what are you doing? That's not how you drink from a bottle! You're making a mess and you're going to get all sticky. And why is your bra exposed? Can you not dress yourself properly? God, it's like I'm running a preschool around here.
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>>102166303
Watch Nisemonogatari
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>>102166303
Strawberry crush.
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>>102166303
The best water you have ever tasted.
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>>102162539
by monogatari second season, she gets more dere
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>>102166429
>God, it's like I'm running a preschool around here.
Now that's a preschool I want to be a part of. Are you currently hiring?
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>>102166429
The best mineral water in existence.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nITLob098W8
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>>102166436
>>102166471
>>102166476
lewd
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Maybe I'm too normal fag for /a/, but I always find it strange that so many /a/nons have problems with Crab's banter.
It just seems like those normal wisecracks that I have when fucking around my friends, except a bit unconventional since it comes from a girl in this case.
Well, that and the fact that I have a thing for smart, sarcastic girls, I guess
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>>102162941
>crab
>best girl
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>>102166752
maybe, but a big difference is that i never see Senjougahara give a slight chuckle or other indication that she's joking

and i like her, mind you
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>I love you, Araragi-kun
>I love you too, Senjougahara-san
Man that episode 12. They are perfect for each oher.
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>>102162539

That's the good thing about harems. Girl you don't like? There are others in the show.
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>>102166547
Of course! All these low-functioning, yet impossibly sexy 2D girls are too much for one man to handle. I need someone to protect all these young women from monsters who might take advantage of them and make them do horrific, unspeakable acts their child-like minds can't fully comprehend.
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>>102166929
Are there any...

...benefits?
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>>102166972
The warm smiles on their simple faces is enough for me.
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>>102167047
Virgin for lyfe.
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OP on a scale of 10-10 how autistic are you?
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>>102167047
No dental?

Fuck this.
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>>102167211
>not being a master wizard
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>>102165911
She would try to berate you but soon wouldn't be able to hide how much she's into it.

this is my fetish.
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>>102167338
I am still but an apprentice.
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>>102167368
also shes into anal
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>>102162539
I thank god every day I don't have taste this shit.
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She isn't actually being a bitch to him. It's more like playful banter. She's pretty head over heels for him.
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>if you don't want to hear a insecure teenage girl talk shit all the time you need to grow balls and be real man
wow, feminists have won
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>>102167368
my fetish as well

it's too pleasurable for her to keep up her bullshit
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>>102167481
Sorry, OP is just way too autistic to grasp this.
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Don't worry OP, she might be a shit but she becomes pretty irrelevant
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>>102167656
Yeah cause she won, she had nothing else to do.
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>>102167703
Unfortunately Japan has a habit of making the worst girls win.
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Is monogatari the only show where the best girl fucking won?

It doesn't matter if you like shinobu or hitagi more since they both "won"
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>>102162539
I can actually understand this.
I used to really despise Crab. I still kind of do, but she gets better.
I didn't like how deadpan she was throughout the entire first season. I was just waiting for something to happen where she would a. explode into anger b. sincerely laugh c. cry.
She just kinda remained fluid and emotionless. Even serious characters still have emotions- it just takes a reasonable level of cause for the effect.
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She's just another dime a dozen smart ass slut conveniently paired with a spineless mc who doesn't call her out on her shit.
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Let's stop talking about Crabs and talk about Snails instead.
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>>102167760
Crab gets good when she's talking with someone who won't just take her shit, but with throw it right back. When Araragi sits there and takes it is when she gets painful to watch.
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>>102167947
all this shit taste
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>>102167992
>I'm angry that people don't love my waifu 100% of the time.
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>>102167938
How did you post a blank image like that?
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>>102167938
This thread is beyond redemption, there's no reason in dragging best girl down with it.
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>>102168059
You mean husbando.
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a ra ra gi
kun
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>>102162539
Yeah Senjougahara acts like this at first but that's obvious due to fucked up childhood, last episode of Bakemonogatari shows more of her sweet side, I think you'll enjoy it if you last OP.
Also this entire series is so fucking overrated holy shit
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>>102167843
Raragi's not spineless, he just looks at the girls like children. When a little girl is tugging at your pant leg and whining, that's how he sees Senjougahara.
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>>102168091
I'm sorry, that meme is already filled. Try again.
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>>102167480
This.
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>>102167938
that's because the snail did not return.
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>>102167938
;_:
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>>102168299
>loved

dropped.
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>>102168091
>>>/yy/
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>>102167531
>implying that's what feminists do
No anon, when you grow balls and become a real man, feminists will try to get you arrested for it.
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>>102168286
>>102168299
OH GOD NOT AGAIN
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>>102167843
>Mararagi
>spineless

He's just above bitches' childish games. If you get upset, they win.
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>>102168544
Unless you're Kaiki, then you play by their rules and beat them at their own games.
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>>102168544
He does look stirred from time to time though.
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>>102168630
Unless you're playing against Nadeko, in which case, gg.
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it's all worth it if you watch until the end. I skipped the neko prequel though, fuck that 4 eyes
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It sucks OP, drop it while you can.

I'll never understand how anyone finds this tripe interesting. Slideshow makes it that much worse.
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>>102165911
you'd have to do her from behind, pushing her face into the bed when ever she trys to talk.
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>>102168668
You mean Ougi right?
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>>102168745
Well you just have some different tastes and opinions, and I respectfully disagree with your taste, you tasteless faggot.
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>>102166815
Every thread, every fucking thread I see some shinobu-fag correct someone on who's best girl. Like fuck, all you're going to do is derail the thread and make people shitpost.

you're still right though
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>>102168745
>implying Shinobu-kun is best director
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>OP being a gigantic faggot
Color me surprised.
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>>102168777
lewd
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>>102165911
I think she's more of a masochist, submissive anal sex loving whore in bed. Pretty much the perfect woman.
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Do you think meme and kaiki tag teamed dat ass?

i bet they get together and joke about how araragi gets sloppy seconds.
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>>102168999
aww yiss

>tsundere when out and about
>nympho in your bed
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>>102168851
little waifufag being an upset loser
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>>102169066
He's getting tired thirds, she was raped you know.
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>>102168838
Monogatari threads just aren't as frequent now that it isn't airing, and I feel the need to spread the word of Shinobs. But if I had to be honest I prefer Kissshot.
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>>102169168
She wasn't.
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>>102169066
This again? Yeah she's joked about it but she's never been serious about having sex with anyone other than Araragi. It's a shame you can't understand that because you're too much of an autistic fuck.
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>>102169202
i prefer teen Shino with Karen hairstyle
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>>102168745
I'll tell you why you won't understand it, because you're a fucking idiot who doesn't understand what the show is going for and expects things to be spoon-fed to you in the most basic forms.

Monogatari is a lot about reading between the lines and feeling tensions and atmospheres; if you are not attuned enough to pick up anything while watching it you might as well go watch One Piece or whatever else you can understand.
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>>102169066
She said she was a virgin. She could be lying of course but nothing in the series makes you think she was.
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>>102168999
>>102169121
>Gahara
>masochist

Her existence in Nise is basically her just getting off to chaining Ragi up. fucking hot headcanon though
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>>102169284
Mi negro.
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>>102169287
I love it when people try to claim this haremshit has depth.
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>>102167938
They are the worst kind of animals of all times.

Even bats aren't as bad.
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>>102169287
You idiots really give bakeshit more credit than its worth, don't you? Why don't you go back to arguing over the best girl.
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>>102169324
But she's like that outside of bed, more a made up front than her real self. She looks quite submissive when she is sincere after they got rid of Kaiki.
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>>102169344
Some one past that pasta about how all the girls have psychological disorders and they're represented by third respective apparitions.
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>>102169407
You idiots really don't understand all the subtleties in the series because you can't into moon, can you? Why don't you go back to arguing over action-shonen tripe speculations.
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>>102169451
kanburu is symbolized by a monkey, or mummy paw, because she is a gay
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>>102169290
>file name

oh, i do, i just have a favorite form of my favorite character
kissshot > jr. high hanekawa cosplay during timetravel > side ponytail 17 > loli forms.
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>>102169314
her being a virgin was the joke, the truth was her being into orgies.
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>His eyes not seeing best girl
>Not knowing Hitagi and Shinobu are the best girls
OP is a faggot.

That is all.
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>>102169468
Not him but way to dismiss burden of proof.
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>>102162539
OP is correct. There's absolutely no reason to like Crab until ep 12, at which point I can understand why some people might be willing to put up with her bullshit.

If you liked Crab before ep 12, you have a serious case of bad taste and should get that checked out.
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>>102162539
Finally someone with good taste.
But don't drop the series just for her, the rest of the girls are loveable and Araragi is a good guy.
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They totally fucked up snails relationship with arararagi in S2
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>>102169451
Yes all the aberrations are just manifestations of mental problems or people's beliefs.
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>>102169468
>Why don't you go back to arguing over action-shonen tripe speculations.
Have never even once done that. Please tell me what is so great about the dialogue. Other than "LOL ITS SUBTLE GUYS".

>pre·ten·tious adjective \pri-ˈten(t)-shəs\
>attempting to impress by affecting greater importance, talent, culture, etc., than is actually possessed.
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>>102169498
yeah, forgot about the cosplay

that was moe and hot at the same time
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>>102169576
She was entertaining.
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>>102169636
her face was like she was saying "i dont mind dressing up, but this is a weird fetish thing for you isnt it" LOVED IT
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>>102169576
She's snarky and fun. Even if aggressive there is a lot to like.
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>>102169635
Why don't you tell me what anime you think are good then if you think monogatari is so bad? If you're only going to go right into things like LoGH you'll be the pretentious fuckwit here, not me.
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>>102165447
not that guy but the whole point of her character is that her life from the point of the middle school shit and before she got rid of the crab/met araragi was basically an asocial mess.

she basically has no real sense of social dynamics and appropriateness at least in the beginning because she just ignored society for years. this is part of why she's so blunt and cuntish at least in the beginning.

after awhile she starts growing into it and she basically keeps doing shit like that because araragi is to beta to respond and they both enjoy it.
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>>102169742
making a haughty, proud girl become bashful and shy is a rush
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>>102169576
she was fine starting from snail, but was good after episode 12 till tiger ended. now i think shes annoying.
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>>102169635
But it wasn't pretentious, the series doesn't take itself seriously. It always was an exercise of form over content.
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>>102169838
>tell me what anime you think is good anon
>but don't mention good anime or you are pretentious
lol
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>>102169901
>call me pretentious
>afraid to list what anime he likes because he knows he'll look pretentious himself

Do it. I'm waiting. Let me carefully surgically analyze why your taste is fucking shit.
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>>102169901
Great post there, mate.
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>>102169838
>list what you think is good
>but don't list anything good
really
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>>102165889
because this board is like 90%+ virgin pussies who wouldnt know how to respond in said situation and actually would feel like they're being abused.

just once i'd like to see the MC put a tsundere bitch in her place like she wants him to. then the inevitable attraction that happens later on in the show would actually be more believable because he shows some sort of self respect.
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so snake a shit, but i really want her to make a comeback. she is in a position to become a decent character.

>pursues being mangaka
>now a tomboy
>wears uniform slovenly
>ponytail and perma pissed off
>muh dick
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>>102169901
You sure showed him, nigga.
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>>102170040
truly the best girl.
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>>102169970
>thinks I am him
I am laughing at you and your absolutely stupid reply.
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>>102169576
>Great kuudere that does awesome banters and teasing and with a fascinating personality
>no reason to like

Your taste is bad.
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>>102169838
LoGH is great. Even if it gets boring near the end. The dialogue was what made it good in the first place. The endless space battles only detracted from it.

Honestly though? My favorites.. hard to decide. Give you a few.
>Eve no Jikan
>Detroit Metal City
>Denpa teki na Kanojo
>Planetes
>Shinsekai Yori
>DTB (first season)
>Black Lagoon
.. I'm not going to keep listing them, this would go on forever.
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>>102169991
>>102169901

I say this because there is only one LoGH out there, it is the 0.001% out of thousands of anime and anyone can look like they have good taste listing it and a handful of other shows.

I'm looking for something more personally indicative in other words; think on your feet and show me something you think is good beyond hivemind rather than spout off the usual top 5-10 most people have.
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>>102169901
>LoGH
>good
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>>102170112
Pretentious.
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>>102170109
Not arguing with you, but calling her a simple kuudere isn't doing Gahara justice.
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>>102170067
who is Ken Sugisaki

but instead of putting her down, he refused to step down and made them know that they WILL be his bitches. and much laughter was had
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>if you don't worship haremshit about retarded overly emotional teenage girls you are pretentious
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>>102170199
You're right, but most of her design is that of a kuudere. But she's a lot more than just that and is a mix of a few other deres.
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>>102166826
its not in her personality to laugh it off and admit she's joking. she makes it very obvious all the time though.
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>>102170150
Great argument bud.

Now why don't we go back to looking at what 100% of every Bake thread is.. "no she's the best girl".

It's a shitty pretentious (pretentious as in, it gives the illusion of there being something deep to it) harem show.
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>>102170250
I'd call you a faggot but I can't argue with Newman.
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>>102170199
she's actually all the deres at once, which is impressive

>yan: she's jelly as fuck
>tsun: no explanation needed
>kuu: same
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>>102170275
Yeah, why are most purples kuuderes anyway?
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>>102170321
There have been multiple good Monogatari threads in the last few weeks alone. You're right that most are ruined by waifu shitposters, but good threads do happen.
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>>102167760
she literally breaks down crying in the second episode.

i'm seriously starting to doubt most of you guys even watch anime
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>>102170199
Senjougahara is a mix of all of the deres wrapped together in one, extremely sensual, banter ready package.
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Some weird shit going on in here. Haters/trolls often bash with "pretentious", but now they're being called that.

Well, whatever. OP is still a faggot.
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>>102162539
Anon...you will fall in love with her Like me
Just wait.

Or drop it and stay away from ma waifu
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>>102169970
I'm still waiting for you to.. "carefully and surgically analyze" why my taste is shit.
>>102170112
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>>102170365
it works

>Shion from GJ-Bu
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> OP being a beta faggot unable to take some banter without being anally destroyed.
Oh well...
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>>102170507
Your taste is shit because none of those shows are about shoving as many traits as possible onto shitty waifus
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>>102170507
> Implying you need analysis to see what is clearly pretentious shit taste.
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>>102170321

You seem like you don't even make a modicum of effort to learn what it is that people see in common shows and why it's so interesting when something like -monogatari comes along and articulates the little facets of those shows so intricately, along with in-depth analysis such as Araragi's many monologues and the ambiguous nature of the progression of the story and his role in it.

It takes one of the seediest most insular elements of anime and blends them with an actually thought-out MC/story and is massively interesting for that. This is why most people usually fucking truly hate harem MCs, but love the shit out of Araragi and would go gay for him; he's an actual character and we can actually understand the thoughts behind his actions. The seeming bitchiness/shittiness of the other girls also gets addressed to the point people will reverse their positions on finding out the whole story (such as Hanekawa). It tackles the things that usually suck about harems for not being fleshed out / not going far enough, and it's literally the only one I can think of that does it at anywhere near this level. It's not a deconstruction, it's an advancement, a raising of the bar for what we usually expect from harems, and it operates on a level that doesn't immediately brand itself as one to boot. If you don't understand the significance of that then there is no fucking helping you and you are free to go run along and fool yourself into thinking you know better.
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>>102170435
Really she is just kuu/yandere with sadistic tendencies..
but now she is probably just dere =[
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>>102170699
> sadistic tendencies
Just a made up cover to protect herself. She's a submissive masochist inside.
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>>102170651
tl;dr
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>>102170651
Now THIS is pretentious.
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>>102170651
>Bakemonogatari
>well thought out

Haha, okay. Thanks for proving that whole pretentious point.
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>>102162539
why do i get the feeling your favorite girl is going to be nadeko
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>>102170651
tldr it's generic haremshit people like because pretty girls slutting over faggot mc
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>>102170802
No, you.
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>>102170921
Is that even a valid response?
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>>102170834
> proving
> pretentious
> point
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>>102170834

That isn't entirely false though. Watch the whole season plus Nise, and S2 and you'll see.
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I would drink Hitagi's piss
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>>102170953
As valid as yours.
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>>102162539
dear op, i mean this in a heartfelt way.
i was in the same position as you, and indeed dropped the show, but years later a friend convinced me to continue watching it.

It saved me, it is the best.

love anon
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Wow. It's like I'm really posting in a Gorespammer thread.

Where did all thees trolls and shitposters come from? Most 2nd season threads were a joy compared to the shit in here.
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I thought all the spastics who actually believe Bakeshit was deep were on dumps like animesuki? It's embarrassing when these idiots show up and think they speak for the rest of us
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>>102170959
i would like to purchase a Shinobu exactly like the one seen here: >>102169742

do you accept PayPal?
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>>102170974
Just to be devils advocate, wasn't bake originally a one-off book Nisio wrote to wank to?
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>>102169287
You don't need to "read between the lines" for monogatari unless you're some kind of sperglord who can't pick up on really basic cues.
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>>102171112
No it wasn't. Stop spreading this shitty misinformation.
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>>102171112
nise was
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>>102171050
That's because the 2nd Season threads were full of people who enjoyed the series and were actually watching it, while this thread is just full of a bunch of shitposters.
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>>102171112
Bake was originally a collection of short stories published in a newspaper. Nisio has been quoted as saying that Nise was a book he wrote to wank off to, but we're not sure how serious he was.
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>>102171112
That was Nise.
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>>102171194
>2nd Season threads were full of people who enjoyed the series and didn't pretend it was deep
fixed
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>>102171189
No it was not.
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crab is literally the definition of perfection
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>no one mentions the best kami fucking sama

[aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa]
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>>102171206
> believing quotes in the internet.
Nigga please don't do it.
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>>102171270
Nadeko a qt 3.14
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>>102171270
No, Kiss-Shot has been mentioned.
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>>102171270
She's so shit when ever she opens her mouth. She should just stay quiet and look cute. Fucking KanaHanaKwa
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>>102171270
she only became good after she flipped her shit
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>>102170507
Ok.
>DMC
Tryhard-outgoing show that panders to kooky karaaazay teenagers who love EXTREEEME shows. It's in the same vein of Metalocalypse as immature tripe. You think it's cool because "wow so metal so hardcore" etc.
>Black Lagoon
Typical Hollywood-style action story. Doesn't really rock the boat unless you are also entertained by typical gunplay and fighting; there isn't much substance to it.
>Planetes
Awkward transition going from garbagemen to terrorists later on. This is one of those "list it to show you have good taste" shows that I said not to list.
>SSY
Dramatic retelling of "racism is bad"; it's a story we've seen before many times in various media; there's a reason it didn't really sell that well in Japan, because it's a common theme and very preachy. It's not a bad show but preachiness can be construed with pretentiousness.
>Even no Jikan
Doesn't really tell much of a story being OVAs. Overrated because it looks nice and feels nice, what a surprise from the same guys who made Pale Cocoon and other stuff that's atmospheric and burgeoning with a sense of deeply questioning the future. It's not actually asking much though and over-dramatizing something that won't really fucking matter.
>I'd go on but word count limit

You exude that "disregard what anime is primarily enjoyed for" kind of flair, and hence kind of disqualify yourself from talking about monogatari, a series that is basically a prism through which many common tropes and attitudes about common junky harem anime were inputted into and reflected out of. In other words you power level doesn't really seem that high but you think it is (the word for that is "sciolist"), as you're afraid to step out of bounds and only praise stuff easily-digestible from Western views. This is like going into sushi bars and judging them by who makes the best hamburgers. Sure some of them will be alright, but that isn't what they're there for and if you don't understand that then you've got learning to do.
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>>102170112
>Denpa Teki na Kanojo
One of the worst things I have ever seen. If I had to pick one anime to call try-hard, edgy, pretentious, overrated shit for "mature" 14 year old pseudo-intellectual morons, undoubtedly, it would be Denpa Teki na Kanojo. Hoy shit I can't even believe I watched it.
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>>102171364
>Hating Snake
>Hating Kana
Kill yourself.
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"Anon, let's go out."
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>>102171270
I really dislike her as a character but she's really well developed. Her story was really interesting and creepy. Also she's KanaHana so bonus points
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>>102171357
if i was a hot chick, i'd have legions of men kissing the ground i walk on, being my stairs instead of using the ramp, etc
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>>102163653
>using moeshit seriously

Holy fuck, stay the fuck back in >>>/v/ you fucking idiot.
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>>102171380
>>102171391
Stinging.

I like just about everything, except bake.
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>>102171429
Okay.
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why did she have to cut her hair short?

is that what's hot in the streets in japan
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>>102171380
What's sad is this guy is serious AND arguing that he isn't pretentious.
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I don't like her after she became more sweet
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>>102171498
Character development.
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>>102171498
No that's what's hot to Nisioisin.
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>>102171498
because muh character development

aka to fuck with everyone who loves long hair fuck i'm still mad
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>>102169576
>2014
>not being a masochist
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>>102162539
I dropped this shit before the first episode finished.
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Senjougahara is the perfect girl if you're a passive beta with masochistic tendencies who needs the girl to take all the initiative.

That's why many people like her.
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>>102171581
Why do you even watch anime?
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>>102171357
Nigger, please!!!~

Vampire hag is old and busted, she failed to be a proper kami-sama. She got destroyed by Ougi and barely escaped.
Yet Ougi helps Nadeko because she's the only TRUE GODDESS.
And Nadeko-sama didn't even have to run away spilling shit like that fuyukai woman in fear of death. She decided to be human with her own will, with her own might, with her own wisdom.

Tonikaku, it will take too much time to describe how perfect Nadeko is.
So put 10.000 yen in my pocket first and I will continue.
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>>102171566
i like short hair, but only when its surrounded by long with only like 2 characters with short hair
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>>102171380
The troll is being pretty lame. But you just sound super pretentious, like you hate every anime ever.

Why even watch anime if you hate it so much?
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>>102171613
To be entertained.
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>>102171566
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You will never be an object in Kaiki-san's diary.
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>>102162539
She's only smug like that on the surface.

Is this your first time seeing a tsundere? She's actually quite charming, and extremely caring. I wish there were more girls like her.
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>>102171692
That shit doesn't even make sense.
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>>102171611
This is something beyond betas understanding but the wilder the girl the more rewarding the conquest.
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>>102162539
Never made it past season 1. Good luck anon.
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they could have given her a new hairstyle or some shit. isnt that cut my hair = new phase in my life trope kinda played out.

anything but her glorious hair
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>>102171429
>>102171475
i would, but i don't want the usual dinner/movie yadda yadda

where should i take her? keep it PG, please
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>>102171736
>the wilder the girl the more rewarding the conquest.
This is what betas who dream about what it is like to have a girlfriend believe.
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Best feet.
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>>102171718
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>>102171736
There is no conquest she is already in love with you.

I didn't say that as an insult. Crab is my favorite girl, but I think that's the reason she appeals to many of her fans. Her fans are beta.
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>>102171498
I liked her short hair more. Based Nisio pandering to my fetishes.
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>>102171797
Most people who watch anime in the first place tend to be beta.
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Hey, onii-chan, peace~peace~!
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>>102171851
And yet the ones who like tsunderes/bitches love to try to convince everyone else they aren't.
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>>102171733
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>>102171794
Why does SHAFT know exactly what my dick wants? Does Shinbo have some kind of telepathy that only works on penises?
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>>102171782
> wanting to dominate an alpha female
> beta
Wat?
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>>102171884
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Why do people like Karen more than Tsukihi?
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>>102171894
part of the appeal of tsunderes at least to me, is putting them in their place. of course the mc basically never does this
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>>102171650
>Implying that Nadeko was anything more than a pawn to get at Kiss-Shot.
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>>102171951
>commie
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>>102171914
>Why does SHAFT know exactly what my dick wants? Does Shinbo have some kind of telepathy that only works on penises?
My dick felt very confused and sad when I've seen THIS.
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>>102171851
> bullshit I pulled out of my ass.
[citation needed]
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>>102171884
her eyes are so intense

and those Satsuki-esque eyebrows

just marry me already
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>>102170539
>Shion
>kuudere
What?
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>>102171999
YES DA.

Problems?
I've seen S2 with Commie subs and it was fine. Go be an apologist of another sub group somewhere else.
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>>102171976
dont know, tsuki is clearly best araragi
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>>102171947
you just answered yourself

if she's alpha, you're beta

by definition, there can only be one
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>>102171976
Because Tsukihi is a cockblocker
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>>102171976
I like Tsukihi more, I really liked her with braids. Those were sexy. But get other choices of hairstyles are all damn fine too.
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>>102172034
I can't decide whether Shion or Mao is best girl.
I've been thinking about it for a year now and yet they are still tied in first place.
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To be honest I didn't like Bakemonogatari either, I only watched Nise because I needed to finish what I started. I do say Nise and SS are fun to watch, it was nice watching SS with you /a/.
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>>102172034
what is she then
besides perfect
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>>102172058
that's not how it works but nice try
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>>102172006
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>>102172058
That's not how it works for primates anon, go and make your research you'll learn a lot of things.
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>>102171976
Because personally I thought Karen was far more attractive and had a much more likeable personality.
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>>102172017
>Satsuki-esque eyebrows

...
Fucking 2014 neophytes and KLK-fags.

Not gonna argue about Yotsugi because she's lovely and wonderful. I really enjoyed her episodes in S2.
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>>102172078
i loved her with braids, she looked middle-eastern
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>>102171517
Nope, I'm just telling it like I see it. And I see a typical pretentious tryhard ANN-type faggot who doesn't fucking understand the meta-scene of anime and hence shits all over shows like monogatari that work off of it. Sure people won't fucking get what makes it interesting if they have little background knowledge of the material it's building/commenting on.

It's in the same vein that people may not understand what makes an aged single malt scotch any better than a cheap blend if they don't have a background knowledge of scotch tasting. Between the two in a blind test you could say the aged single tastes better, and indeed, many would even with no experience. However, there will also be many people who would prefer the $20 blend over the $200 cask-strength because they like the weaker, more palatable flavor of the blend. They like it -because- it's weakly-flavored and easy to interpret. They don't want to strain to interpret something they can't articulate in words.

>>102171653
I'm a bit of an idort after going through all the typical phases over the years. For example my all-time favorite is LoGH (and even so I have a long list of criticisms for that show too), but my second-favorite is Hidamari Sketch. I'm both pretentious in my knowledge and anti-pretentious in that I understand what's so great about common moe shows etc. People don't seem to understand that you can have a dichotomy of tastes and like more than one range of genres; that they don't need to operate on such a narrow bandwidth on their radar. I guess I'm a bit more open-minded than most or something.
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>>102171418
>Liking snake
Literally the worst girl.
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>>102171999
Commie was the winner of Monogatari S2, they haven't pulled any subbing antics since the March of the Eotena.
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>>102172006
Maybe I'm missing some context, but how does this delicious shot make anything sad?
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>>102172126
The Fire Sisters come in one package. You have to have sex with them both, at the same time.
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>>102172082
All the girls are perfect, but I think Mao is the perfectest.
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monkey>snake>snail>cat>crab
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>>102172013
Go to you're average con next time it's in town. Or look at the average man anime is marketed towards. Why not look at the average man who draws said anime. Maybe look in the mirror once or twice.
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>>102172175
>are you an italian
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>>102169498
>jr. high hanekawa cosplay during timetrave

Best service in the entire series.
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>>102172230
Weren't you listening? That's what Shinobu actually said.
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Shut the fuck up everyone. Filthy liars.

It's time for the best girl.
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>>102172112
>>102172124
you guys are idiots

i bet you believe in codependence and relationship equality, too
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>>102172151
>she looked middle-eastern
Yeah dude exactly.
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>>102172111
She just seems to be a plain old dere, nothing unique about it. Kuudere is the exact opposite of what she is though, did she ever act blunt and cynical toward Kyoro to the point where it seemed like she didn't care if he died?

>>102172181
Can I use my toothbrush?
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>>102172217
> average con
> most people who watch anime
I can't...
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who is the most beta female character in the show and why is it cat
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Are Mizudori and Rousokuzawa real
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>>102172180
>Maybe I'm missing some context, but how does this delicious shot make anything sad?
Look at her fucking feet.
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>>102170365
Because purple is a cool color. You would expect either purple or silver.
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>>102172252
what does Shinobu smell like
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>>102172258
Were you.
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>>102172260
Ougi-sama!

Delicious Ougi-sama!
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>>102172269
> domination of an alpha female
> equality
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>>102172307
>being a footfag
You people disgust me.

Armpits are clearly superior
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>>102172260
i wish Ougi looked that cute in the show
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>>102172307
Why the fuck did they even draw those "toes" it would have been just fine without them
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>>102172307
They're in heeled sandals? The poofs on front sort of look like toes at a glance?
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>>102172338

Donuts and semen.
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>>102172126
She was until the bitch cut her hair for no fucking reason. It was the biggest moment where I wanted to kill Araragi for making her do that.
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>>102172260
>girl
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>>102172287
no, kuudere just means calm/reserved

but we both agree she's perfect, yes?
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>>102172378
Why do you have to choose between x or y, you fucking low pleb?
I have more fetishes than you can count to.
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>>102172297
I'm a Crabfag, but I cannot resist BIG FAT CAT TATS.
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>>102172258
"la li lu le lo" translated to "I just wanted to make out"

>commie
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All Monogatari are good (even Cat), but Shinobu tops all of them.
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>>102169244
What program is it that generates filenames like those?
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>>102172469
Not VLC.

>>102172453
We should all be as our savior Araragi, He of the Many Fetishes.
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>>102172469
taking a screenshot in MPC
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>>102172453
If I don't have someone to hate, what am I supposed to do with the rest of my time?
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>>102171976
I don't. I like Tsukihi a lot more than Karen. Tsukihi has better...hotter chemistry with Arararagi.
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>>102172082
>>102172191
All GJ-bu are best, but Mao is slightly better than the rest. At least that's how I feel about it.
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>>102172522
I don't know about that there is toothbrush scene...
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>>102172413
I like her with both long and short hair, I'm not too picky about it.

>>102172429
A kuudere is an "ice queen", someone that is apathetic and uncaring on the surface, but soft on the inside.

I'll leave it at that and agree with you that she is perfect along with all the other GJbus except seira.
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>>102172587
what does dandere mean?
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>>102172566
Excellent taste
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>>102172587
>seira

Who?
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>>102172419
Getting pretty tired from your uneducated stupid shit about "ougi not a girl".

Her gender clearly includes female side. And she can possible be a boy as well.
Have an official illustration for LN.
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>>102172465
I prefer Hitagi but I won't deny the greatness that is Shinobu. Let's just agree that they're all fantastic.
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>>102172610
Emotion-less doll.
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>>102172610
Silent and emotionless on the outside, sweet on the inside
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>>102172651
That Kiss-Shot cover.
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>>102172498
>We should all be as our savior Araragi, He of the Many Fetishes.

No, Kaiki is my hero and I want to be like Kaiki.

Araragi looked really dumb and arrogant in the end of Monogatari S2, he was so sure that nothing can be done without him and the whole world is spinning around him. Spoiled brat. He was no match for an adult like Kaiki-san.
Hell, whole Araragi family is a bunch of righteous cretins.
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>>102172692
This. They are all beautiful. So beautiful that I sometimes cry in thankfulness.
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>>102172643
The only bad GJ bu
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>>102172579
The toothbrush scene is more like an event that happened. Chemistry wins overall in my eyes. It helps that Tsukihi is feminine and yamato nadeshiko-like, and the way she sorta averts the latter with her yandere tendencies and down to earth personality while emitting sexual pheromones towards Arararagi makes her simply pure sex.
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>>102172735
>I want to be like Kaiki
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>>102172735
Get off of 4chan, Kaiki.
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>Not talking about the best Nisio work

Having shit taste all around again, faggots?
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>>102162539
She's just a kuudere anon. She cuts the bullshit quickly and admits her love for Araragi.
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>>102172651

Why is Araragi so fabulous?
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>>102172801
>>102172803
I'm not going anywhere.
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>>102172775
What are you talking about? All 4 of them were special and perfect in their own way. That green cat they got was stupid tho.
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>>102172842
Togame holds a special place in my heart

Even though she's a canon confirmed traitorous bitch, I still love her

;_;
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>>102172789
Well you might be right and the fact that I like fit girls (Kambaru and Karen are equally best) doesn't help for the case of my neutrality on the subject.
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>>102162539

>faggot dropping monogatari

nothing new to see here
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I miss Oshino.
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>>102172842
Ktg isn't the best, but it's close to the best and is behind Monogatari Series.

If we must talk account of all of his work, then Zaregoto would be his best work. Without a doubt.
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>>102172952
>Togame holds a special place in my heart
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>>102172945
you best not be talking bout muh whyfoo
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>>102172842
yousir are my niggest of niggas.
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>>102173046
fuck off worst girl
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>>102173044
>and is behind Monogatari Series.
Just stop talking, pleb.
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>>102172842
If its his best work, why did it sell less than Monogatari?

Checkmate.
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>>102173078
Best girl wins.
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Cat > Crab > Snake > Monkey > Zombie > Bird > Bee > Snail > Shit > Bat
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Am I the only one here who likes Cat?
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>>102172952
>>102173046
Elder God Tier: Togami
God Tier: Hime

>>102173092
>Implying there's a worst girl in Ktg

>>102173102
Was being serious though. It's not like being behind MS is even remotely bad.

Anyways, why is he drinking ketchup?
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>>102173100
I fucked you're girfriend.
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>>102172945
Every GJ Bu was perfect aside from Seira, this included Kyoro's imouto and the Canadian imouto, and the maids.
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>>102173146
Because it doesn't have an anime and it never will because it's simply impossible to adapt to anime.

Sales don't even matter anyways. But Zaregoto during its peak reign over LNs was hella popular.
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>>102173189
I used to hate her, but her new hair and resolve is top qt.
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>>102173146
>If its his best work, why did it sell less than Monogatari?
Only retarded apes think better sales => better title.

Justin Bieber, Twilight, Naruto, Bleach, One Piss are more popular than Monogatari which means better than Monogatari, amirite? xD
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All GJ-Bus are equally best girl.

Shion is simply more equallier bestest girlieriestiererererer.

All Monogataris are equally best girl.

Crab is simply more equallier bestest girlieriestiererererer. I absolutely adore her wit. I can handle the banter.
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>>102173189
I find her extremely sexy if that counts.
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>>102173250
>>102172587
>>102172775
>>102173250
>This guy hating Seira

Nigga, Seira was as perfect as any other loli imouto. Stop being a faggot.
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>>102173317
>amirite? xD

Jesus christ, kill yourself.
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>>102173156
>implying there was any girl better than Togame.

Hime was cute, but from her very first appearance i was hoping someone would kill her.
all the other decent girls died.
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>>102173306
I love me some Monkey, but she's neglected mostly because she got almost zero screen time last season.
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>>102173317
>>102173146
Samefag or retard taking a joking bait post.
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>>102173330
Yeah, she's perfect.
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>>102173189
I like her after reading Kizu and watching everything.
But she's not my favorite.
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>>102173199
>Elder God Tier: Togami
>God Tier: Hime

If she's so ELDER GOD then why is her rotten corpse feeding worms while Hitei-sama won da Shichika & Katanagataries?
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>>102173189
Everyone likes Cat... Just not as much as everyone else.
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>>102173189
I don't hate her and I find her extremely sensual. But to each his own I guess.
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>>102173306
because she is canon lesbo, who will never know the pleasure of being touched by the Based Araragi Koyomi.

that being said, i love her.
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>>102173370
>ad hominem

Typical uneducated ape who cannot even recognize an ironic and extremely obvious line with your tiny underdeveloped nigger brains.
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>>102167450
Is that from the LNs or something? Because of the few English translated doujins with her, at least two of them involve anal
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Just look at her, holy shit she's so fucking perfect.

PERFECTION.
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>>102173484
>I was just pretending to shitpost

Jesus christ, kill yourself.
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>>102167733
Not the only show.
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>>102173400
because Nisio wanted the reader to suffer through watching best waifu get murdered to motivate Shichika to be the unstoppable weapon that destroyed everything.
Also she didn't win squat.
Shichka broke them all, and she just tagged along behind him.
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>>102173400
Hime may have won the Shichika dick but Togame won his heart
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>>102173484
Your using that incorrectly. He's literally just telling you to kill yourself. That has nothing to do with ad hominem.
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>>102173333
I hated her because she was a straight up bitch and didn't find a single likeable quality about her, while all the other girls were perfect.
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>>102173484
Pretending to contribute content of low quality is still contributing content of low quality, and is an action warranting suicide or lobotomy.

Get to it, chum.
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>>102173681
>straight up bitch
Not even close, she was adorable as fuck. And seriously, ANY GJ-bu being a bitch? You need to re-watch GJ-bu without that stick in your ass, bro.
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>>102173607
Delicious.
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>>102173189
Cat a best.
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>>102173970
Wrong version, motherfucker.
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>>102171976
Because marshmallow justice>platinum disco
There I said it.
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She's intelligent, loyal, and and overall well thought out character. I don't see the problem.
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>>102174187
The problem is that it takes her more than 4 episodes to have a character arc. Truly, an unforgivable flaw.
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>>102173878
i won't lie.
at the end of Katanagatari cried more than a grown man should while watching Chinese cartoons.
i still feel that feel when no ShichikaXTogame happy ending.
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Hitagi has the perfect sized breasts

Prove me wrong
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>>102174312
The entire world is my dream and you don't actually exist. Prove me wrong.
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>>102174401
why is karen so damn tall
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>>102174401
So... Kanbaru has the perfect size then?
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Call me when you will start talking about Ougi (best monogatari).
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>>102162539
>Who would ever voluntarily want to deal with such a smug and belittling cunt, let alone be friends with?
The majority of /a/
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>>102174046
shit taste detected
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>>102162539
She rapidly becomes top-tier, you just have to be into girls who aren't submissive weak-kneed shits.
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>>102171189
>>102171215
Nisio has said "oh this was just done as a hobby" about every one of the monogatari books. It's the stupid Japanese humility coming through.
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>>102174664
i love this face

what did she say at that moment, again?
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Post your top 3 favorite studios.

Others rate.

1. Kyoani
2. Gainax (Imaishi's work)
3. I.G.
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>>102171270
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WnUrQaXHlGY
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>>102175260
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>>102175260
I didn't expect you to be into incest.
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>>102170112

>Shitsekai yaoi
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Best monogatari girl.
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>>102176968
>>>/jp/
You'll find more 2hu there.
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>>102177062
Don't speak with me, filthy neo-4chan-scum.
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god snake was such a bitch
Why did she wanted to kill Rararagi and Gahara again? Just bc he didn't want to fuck her? Fucking cunt
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What I'd do to see hair like that again
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>>102173189
She's my second-favorite.
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>>102173189
I do. I don't see why I'd dislike her.
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is doll suppose to be a lolli?
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>>102171270
....Fuck I can hear that sweet sticky KanaHana scream.
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I'm into episode 10
Does Aragi ever help like a really fat middle aged woman or a man? Or is he just kind to young women?
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I want to fuck Kaiki
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>>102180038
There are no fat middle aged women in monogatariverse.
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>>102180038
Just women
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>>102173189
>I believe in Cat
Ring-a-ding, call the autism police. Beta and autistic girl ain't my thing
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>>102166122
but such a platitude is likely to be immediately dismissed. regardless how they're perceived, tl;dr statements are--despite their namesake--typically read to completion. given they're much more descriptive than a trite catch all, they're also much more likely to produce the intended effect (e.g., in this instance, humiliation after recognizing extreme insecurity)
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>>102169202
shinobu's fucking lame. oh look another smart ass loli immortal pet character, it's like they're not even trying anymore. "this character will be a little girl by default, but she can assume any age to suit the viewer's fluctuating tastes (but let's be serious, mostly loli). she'll also be immortal, so they can pretend they'll always be together because anime fans are autistic spergs who can't deal with loss or the possibility of failure. also, how about she lives in his shadow so she's always with him, even when it's nonsensical to the scenario? yeah sounds good"

sounds about right
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>>102180235
The show is quite nice and somewhat unique but I kinda dislike how repetitive it is and the way it panders to waifu fags
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>>102171733
the fact everyone bitches about it and debates its significance is reason enough why it works. it's from the tried and true Hideaki Anno school of symbolism: even if they don't get it, if it evokes strong emotions, it's doing well enough
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>>102180735
You forgot "let's make her over 500 years old as 'justification' for blatant pedophilia."
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These threads are always weird. I don't watch the show nor do I intend to anytime soon but threads are always weird.
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fuck you OP.
hitagi is the yet seen best girl of the whole anime spectrum
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>>102181546
do u fuckasses even kizu
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>>102182400
cry moar pedo
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>>102182400
>Replying to an obvious bait.
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>>102179119
Hey Crab, you're fucking spilling on yourself.
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>>102168143
no it's not. it's perfect
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>>102168698
you are the worst kind of anime viewer
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>>102162539
I'm a bit indifferent about monogotari in general, pretty sure I didn't watch after they went on a date.

She does improve, and she is quite smoking. Unfortunately the director has a short hair fetish and destroyed her in my eyes so I doubt I would ever watch any more.
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>>102172297
umm Nadeko ? the very fact she is beta is why she became snake god
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>>102173450
But she already knew the pleasure of touching Araragi.
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>>102173450
what if she is only lesbo for Senjougahara ? I mean she doesn't hit on any other girl from what i remember but she keeps fucking around and teasing Arararararagi so it's possible she is bisex
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>>102169549
>burden of proof.
Burden of proof of what, exactly?
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>>102170067
Kaze no Stigma/Stigma of the Wind

But the MC is the only good part of the whole thing.
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>>102162539
ITT: OP is a beta faggot who got turned off by strong women.
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>>102172258
Yeah but it wasn't what Commie translated.

But they were still better than the whatever HS was ripping.
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>>102162539
Oh, you just can't handle some girl's teasing. That's why you can never get pussies, OP
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>there are only 3 other anons max that have seen the light of best girl
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>>102192537
Just let the thread die already.
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>>102162539
FUCK. Its been so long since I've visited a monogatari thread.I'm glad some things never change.
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Cat's bra is fucking awful.
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>>102174043
I want a loli catgirl Cat.

Loli, glasses, braids and cat ears.
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>>102193865
You fucking wot.
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>>102180281
Commie translated it "I swear to Cat" (instead of God).

Commie > all.
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>>102162539
you too, eh?
but if the monogatarifags here are right, i'll probably give it a nother chance
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>ctrl+f "crab"
>20 results
I guess it's time...
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>>102172842
maybe if they'd stop talking so much.
also today i learned that monogatari gets it's funding from flaming Masochists throughout the world
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>>102162539
She gets better.

She gets worse.



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