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So, how does this guy even USE his ability? They explained that he has an intense calculatory ability, but does that actually mean that he does equations in his head to use it? or does he memorize them? Please explain.
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>>102159334
It's all in his mind I presume. He knows all the physics and calculations behind his ability, making him know how to do what he does.
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>>102159334
Bump
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>>102159334
He does all the calculations in his head, meaning he focuses on every vector that he needs to calculate and then uses his personal reality to alter them. It requires a lot of calculations to work which is why using his powers drains his battery so much.
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i would assume he has always had some innate umderstanding of the higher maths needed to operate with his ability. he is just really intuitive i guess
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>>102159600
So, for each individual vector, he has to do a calculation?
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>>102159334
One last bump
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>>102159334
In the Kakine fight I thin it was mentioned the calculations are mostly subconscious so it's probably along the lines of move this thingy and change it to that thingy only the classes he got in school taught him what each "thingy" actually was..
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>>102159843
Thing is though, to make proper use of his ability, he had to go to a special academy to specifically learn things that would help him make such good use of his ability. he must really be doing some intense stuff for him to have to go there.
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>>102159843
Since calculaions are mostly subconscious, doesnt that mean that the better you are at subconscious calculations the higher your level is?
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>>102160015
From what i've learned, the subconscious calculations are the ones he has memorized so that his passive shield works. is that right?
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>>102159926
Didnt he have to train to control his ability too? Because in the flashbacks it seems like he had no control when he reflected stuff.
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>>102160110
See, this is perhaps reason to believe that it's more mental than actual calculatory ability, but im not so sure.
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>>102159652
He doesn't seem to, more like every type of vector based on how his reflection works.
He sets up algorithms and then just maintains them passively.
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>>102160174
So then this is how his passive ability works? That would make sense, but now to answer the question of how the active part of his ability works.
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>>102159926
Yes and no. It's alot easier to understand stuff when you can actually sense it and his esper ability basically makes him able to sense anything that gets in skin contact with him. Scientists use all sorts of instruments to understand the fundamental nature of something and/or get the data while he just has to touch it and has the raw data automatically.

>>102160094
Probably. Although really even then it doesn't make sense because there's no damned way that Accelerator thinks faster than the speed of light to be able to block that out. There's clearly something else being hidden from AC people about the process.(Or the author just failed at science again)
>>102160015
I think it's along the lines of how much stuff you can handle. Like a lower level electromaster cant manipulate as many electrons total as a higher level one which in the end means they're weaker.
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>>102160340
The part of part about being able to handle stuff, with the electromaster, that makes sense. Again, i think the way he blocks objects is probably that he just has those subconscious equations memorized and that it makes up a field.
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Esper Powers = Reality Warping
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>>102159334
Accelerator's brain is just something out of this world. He looks like he doesn't even need to "do" the calculations "manually", he just seems to "feel" it.

The process is just totally natural to him, do you think about the quantity of air you inspire and expire everytime you breath ? No, it's just the same for him. Except that he can certainly tells you the equations he's doing, since it's proven multiple times in the series he basically relies on equations whom he knows the keys. I think that's how the brain of some really extreme case of a specific form of autism works : they describe their method by resorting to synaesthesia on some points and they don't actually do the whole process consciously, the final result is just something they "feel" is right after working the problem with their (intellectual??) instinct.

That guy's got a headache while trying to understand Touma's ability just like he'd overwork a CPU, it just seems like he can launch his brain to make some very complicated tasks for him, without actively being part of the process while not being totally excluded from it.
I hope writing all of that will be helpful to you if you looked for a more or less serious and rational answer on the issue.
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>>102160940
>I think that's how the brain of some really extreme case of a specific form of autism works

This, Academy city fucks with the brains of espers. We don't know the specifics, but it completely changes the way your mind works, all of the level 5s have major psychological issues because of it.
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>>102161173
>all of the level 5s have major psychological issues because of it.

That isn't caused by the brain damage, its caused by their horribly traumatic upbringing. Mikoto and maybe Gunha are the only ones who didn't spend their entire childhood getting fucked over by AC, and Mikoto was a complete wreck after only a few days of that.
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>>102160253
He has to actively create new equations. He's like a Calculator. All he has to do passively is punch in numbers. But when faced with things he can't understant like magic or darkmatter, he has to fake a few secs to add new equations into his personal reality. Not sureh e can do it with magic, but he Subjected Kakine's Personal reality into his own.
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>>102163048
No I'm pretty sure it's the brain damage.She's just considered the most stable of the bunch and Gunha is just gunha.
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>>102159334
>but does that actually mean that he does equations in his head to use it?
every Esper does this
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>>102163048
Gunha is a gemstone, and espers are just artificial gemstones, and Misaka is the most sane out of the level 5s but she is still crazy.
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It's no surprise that he can just preform them in his head on the fly. An esper's personality reality is related directly to their intelligence, making Accelerator the smartest of 2.3 million students.
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>>102163274
He can do it with magic, but it doesn't always work properly. e.g. he can't block Gabriel's wings reliably. He also can't do Telesma at all, IIRC.
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>>102161173
>>102163397
It's not brain damage. Academy City's Esper Program uses drugs and hypnosis. There is no mention of something like surgery or anything invasive on the brain. Crowley's plan involves enabling students who become espers to realize a potential that anyone could have.

Mikoto is one of the more sane people in AC, especially considering what she's been through. Accelerator is fucked up because of what he went through as a child and because he adopted Kihara Amata's personality during his power development.

>all of the level 5s have major psychological issues because of it.
Gunha never underwent the development program. He's a natural esper. And you can't even speak for the #6.

Read the goddamn novels, people.
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>>102163397
This guy is right. It's pretty much Cannon that all level 5s are fucked. mikoto is pretty obsessive and psychopathic, but yeah, she's just the most stable. One need only look at how she thinks of Touma, and the way she acted in the Aademy city demonstration Orange thingy arc. And Gunha is quite obviously delusional as fuck. Yeah it's cool to see him explode bitches with lolphysics, but that complete lack of recognition of danger isn't sane.
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>>102163731
It is actual brain damage. they have specifically mentioned they damage specific parts of the brain with the process from volume one. You forgot about the electrodes and needles jammed into brains as well.
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>>102163810
Furthermore look as the only recorded level 6 in the series, Pierce. The guy is an everythingcon
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>>102163731
>He's a natural esper
And his brain is naturally fucked.
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>>102163810
Gunha, being a gemstone, is the most arguably normal. A lack of recognition may not be sane for a normal person, but after discovering you're damn-near invincible, it's a different case.
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>>102164063
He's a schizophrenic with delusions of grandeur. Sure he might be good willed and harmless but still, awesome as he is, he's not really that different from people who think that they're jesus.
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>>102163882
>“Psychic powers are pretty common here. Anyone’s brain can be ‘developed’ so the pathways open up by having esperin injected in their veins, electrodes attached to their neck, and certain rhythms played through headphones. It can all be explained with science, so it’s only natural to accept it, right?”

>Kamijou pulled some Curriculum textbooks that were lying on the ground towards himself with his foot. It was a recipe for powers development including a mix of neuroscience, rare psychology, and reactionary drugs.

>They called it supplementary lessons, but he was sure to be forced to take Methuselin pills and Elbrase powder for the sake of powers development. Doing that on an empty stomach would not be a good idea.

The only time electrodes are mention actually being inserted into the brain is a comment made by Index, but she was exaggerating and had no idea what she was talking about then. The closest thing to a truly invasive treatment might be "cerebral physiology," but it's not certain that they cut open the skull and tinker with the brain. All the info we really get is that they expand neural pathways through science
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>>102164362
>Implying Crowley would tell people what he does to them
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>>102164362
Index doesn't know enough about science to lie about what she was told and her perfect memory means she didn't get the word at random. If anything that's even more reason to take her word as accurate.
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>>102164490
Index and Touma were arguing over the existences of epser abilities and magic. She was taunting Touma because he was trying to tell her that even though he was certainly an esper, he couldn't use epser abilities.
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>>102164242
I like to think that GUTS! is something he made up to cope with the fact that he has superpowers and nobody else does.

I kind of want a volume of something to focus on Gunha, but I feel his character works better when he shows up, wrecks shit and then leaves.
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>>102164658
Not so sure about your first point, but I definately agree on the second.
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>>102164242
>has actual superpowers
>performs acts of heroism using powers

How is he deluded for acting like a superhero when he really is a superhero?
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>>102159652
Yes.

That's why the wind turbines fucked him up so badly at the end of the Sisters arc. They upset his calculations so he couldn't manipulate the wind anymore.
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So how hard are the equations Uihara has to work with?
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>>102159334
Could Accel use his power to filter out the proteins in his semen giving it a better flavor?
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>>102167848
The reason he's so important to Crowley's plan is that he can be used to make the perfect semen cookie.
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>>102167305
Probably not very complicated at all, but calculations don't matter so much with Uiharu anyway because her power has inherent limitations.

Even if she got a massive boost from Level Upper or something, she wouldn't suddenly be able to *change* temperature or extend her range. The only things that might improve are minor details like the number of objects she can maintain or the amount of time she can sustain it.
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>>102159334
>So, how does this guy even USE his ability? They explained that he has an intense calculatory ability, but does that actually mean that he does equations in his head to use it? or does he memorize them? Please explain.

When someone throws you a ball, do you do the differential calculus needed to predict the path of the ball in your head?
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>>102168003
I'd suck Accel's dick.
>>102168144
I can imagine her equations being something like:
>object temperature = y
>time = t
>b = initial temperature of object
>y = 0t + b
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>>102168224
yes
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He does the maths in his head the same way your brain does the maths before you throw a ball.
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>>102159334
Through the power of lolis and imoutos, obviously.
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>>102168558
interior angle to what, exactly?
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So does that mean all Level 0s are dumbasses who can't into math?

Is that why Saten is a level 0?
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It's all bullshit, DONT BELIEVE IT OR I WILL FUCKING KILL YOU
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>>102169016
Saten tries do to math but it's hard for her when all she can think about is stinky, sweaty cocks
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>>102169016
That and their brains probably just don't respond as well to the drugs/hypnotism.
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>>102169111
What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little Level 0? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in Academy City
and I’ve been involved in numerous secret raids with Judgment, and I have over 300 confirmed arrests. I am trained in scientific warfare and
I’m the esper in the entire Judgment forces. You are nothing to me but just another Level 0. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this city, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over
the Misaka Network? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of espers across the city and your IP is being traced
right now so you better prepare for the storm, Level 0. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life.
You’re fucking arrested, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can arrest you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just without my powers.
Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of Academy City and I will use it to its full
extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little Level 0. If only you could have known what unholy retribution
your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t
and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You’re fucking arrested, kiddo.
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>>102169016
Parameter list. It just means AC is bullshitting them about the schoolwork they're given actually raising levels even more than they do with everyone else.
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>>102169150
>The burden of caught clap. How sore it is!
>A burden of sad shameful suffering,
>The bitter bastard of a bloody kiss,
>The Parthian arrow poisoned from Love’s sling!
>Lo, sweet Lord Christ, thou knowest how sore a thing
>Is a cock crooked and consumed of fire
>Shooting out venomous sap that hath a sting!
>This is the end of every man’s desire.

Saten is the real reason he lives in a tube.
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>>102167169

"When I meet God, I am going to ask him two questions: Why relativity? And why turbulence? I really believe he will have an answer for the first."
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>>102169016
I just means Level 0s aren't chuuni fucktards like Accel, Mikoto, and their fans.
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>>102171038
Someone seems upset.
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>>102169258
change IP into AIM and it's perfect.

>>102163397
Jesus christ, do people even know what actual brain damage would cause? You don't get other character traits from it or something.

Also the personalities of the Level 5's are perfectly explained by their upbringing.
#1. Continuously abused during his childhood, kept alone, everyone was always afraid of him/blamed him. It is very well known that a large part of his personality is similar to Kihara Amata who "taught" him.
#2. Grew up on the dark side, jealous because he was always considered the number two, the backup plan.
#3. What happens when a school girl with a delinquent side gets super powers? Basically this.
#4. Grew up on the dark side, used to using her powers to bossing people around. Never had any resistance etc breeding ground for a sociopath/narcissist.
#5. It's hard to not get paranoid as fuck when people who you knew were planning to discard you when they were finished with their experiment. And when you fabricate the entire world around you, it's easy to get lonely which she masks with her clique.
#7 - Suffers from the oh so horrible syndrome of "being a boy in puberty".

>>102168144
I wonder if she could learn to keep herself at the same temperature, just like kuroko learned to teleport herself. That'd actually be interesting and greatly expand her usefulness while staying within canon power growth.

>>102171038
d'awww
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>>102171078
>>102171122
Chuuni detected.
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>>102171150
Not denying that, what'd be wrong with it anyway.
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>>102171038
It stops being Chuuni when you actually have the reality warping powers.
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>>102171301
>yfw she hated the perfect world with Accel so much she was willing to have the sisters die all over again just so the the world would go back to normal
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>>102171392
Being an esper depends on how delusional you are that you're super special (personal reality), therefore chuuni, in spite of powers.
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>>102171122
>Jesus christ, do people even know what actual brain damage would cause? You don't get other character traits from it or something.
Modern science doesn't even know the full extent of what it causes. shit's fucking random.
There are people that get increased sex drive to the point that they will stop what they're doing at random and rape the first person they see.
One man a gained the very specific urge to be fucked by a horse after never having had the urge before.(It didn't go very well for his health due to the size of horsecock)
One man became violent and deranged due to a brain tumour and shot dozens of people.

I suspect you believe the brain is a vestigial organ for cooling the blood.
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So anyone gonna scan their copy of the 7th and 8th (forthcoming) Railgun S BD booklets and accompanying Necessarius SS parts?
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>>102171575
>There are people that get increased sex drive to the point that they will stop what they're doing at random and rape the first person they see.
How come these people never see me? I want to be forced on my knees to suck cock in an alley
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>>102171807
Because: don't forget, you're here forever.
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>>102171575
But that's basically what I mean, forgot a "just" in that sentence somewhere. Actual brain damage in how the word is used currently would cause really weird shit, but here it was used as an explanation for why accel is edgy or Misaki is paranoid. It is not just going to cause your character to change slightly (although admittedly, there's a chance it can do that, a lot of people get a lot more pessimistic after surviving heavy brain damage).

A far more likely explanation is that they're a bunch of teenagers with a rather crappy past while having superpowers in puberty. People take it way too literally when the Power curriculum program is described as "brain damage".

The whole point of it is rewiring a part of the brain to make the personal reality stuff possible. And yeah that can be described as "damaging" it. This doesn't have shit to do with their personality though.
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>>102171807
There are also drugs that sometimes(like one in a hundred or higher) to have an orgasm when you sneeze. The human body is setup really weird.
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>>102172073
Are you telling me we have drugs to mindbreak people like me into becoming sluts? hot
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I wonder if touma would have actual esper powers if it wasnt for his imagine breaker
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>>102171575
>shit's fucking random.
Further reducing the odds that their insanity is caused by brain damage. Accel is violently insane, Kakine and Mugino are EXTREMELY violently insane, Mikoto is slightly violently insane, Misaki is violently insane if you count her frequent mental attacks as violence, and Gunha is violently insane in a good way. Shit's fucking consistent.
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>>102172274
Wow, way to exaggerate.

Their issues are a result of their upbringing.

Hell, the only reason you guys find Mikoto notable is because of her powers. If this were any other anime, you'd just think of her as a typical tsundere.

No one cared when Naru launched Keitaro into the stratosphere with a punch, right?
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Let's keep the talk of brain damage to Touma and Accelerator, the two characters who we know actually received brain damage.
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>>102172361
Even within the series it was noted that Naru was being overly violent and the fact that she DIDN'T manage to kill him was strange. You chose the absolute worst example.
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>>102172531
And basically everyone who volunteered to pilot Resna.
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>>102172361
That's what I'm saying. They have similar issues because they had similar upbringings, rather than the insanity grab-bag you'd get from brain problems.
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>>102172698
Speaking of those Rensas, you think they'll ever show up again?

Maybe Heaven Canceller can have new bodies made for them...
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Othinus vs accelerator or aleister
Who would win
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>>102173504
Othinus.

She's cuter.
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>>102173504
She could easily beat Accel, and we still don't really know what Aleister is capable of.
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>>102173619
>She's cuter.
I don't know about that.
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>>102169258
what the fuck is this? Are you seriou? its a fucking show. 300 arrests? stop smoking
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>>102171575
>>102171974
Basically, gents, it's another display of Kamachi not being able to actual science. Don't think too hard on it.
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>>102172182
You've had them in nature for millennia, you silly human.
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>>102173833
I believe it's time for a truly lovestruck #1.
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>>102174166
What is it? It's semen, right? That shit's so delicious I could get addicted. It's gotta be semen.
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>>102172361
Their personalities are a result of their upbringing.

An upbringing that involved test tubes and needles and powders and pills and stressful experimentation. By people who had their own goals and ambitions—some not on the up and up, and some that were truly benevolent and selfless.

How is anyone having difficulty picturing this in a large scale instead of in these fractions that are being argued back and forth?
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>>102174323
>Accelerator with anyone other than Touman

Disgusting.
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>>102174418
>Accelerator with Touma
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>>102174491
You just don't get it, man.
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>>102174564
Fuck off.
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>>102174564
That's actually kinda cute
>>102175920
Admit it Accel, you really just want to be cute. You overcompensate for this hidden desire by curbstomping everyone. But in the end, you just want to put on some girly clothes and be called cute.
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>>102176051
Stop projecting so hard, anon
Don't worry, I want to be cute as well
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>>102176170
We all do. But Accel going trap for TouMAN would be great
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>>102176238
>accel going trap for Touma would be shit
Fixed that for you.
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>>102176984
But trap accel is so moe
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>>102177079
You mean Yuriko is moe as fuck?
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>>102177153
>>102176984
>>102174564
>>102174418
>>102173833
>no electrode choker
Absolutely disgusting.
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>>102177516
Is this better you whiny faggot?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ho5VdKuuRvo
The fuck?
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>>102173435
>>102173435
#29 Joins harem. Yess please.
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Has it actually been confirmed that Accel is a guy?
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>>102180977
Yeah back in NT3. Last Order walks in on him taking a bath and Kamachi describes his micropenis in great detail.
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>>102182539
Is it cut?
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>>102183038
Of course not silly jew.
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>>102183677
>>102183677
It sounds deliciously cute. I'd suck it
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>>102182539
I searched NT3 and found no mention of micropenis detail.
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>>102183787
In my search though, I did find this.

>When Mikoto saw Accelerator, an expression of shock appeared on her face as if she had remembered some bloody trauma, but they did not have time to worry about that kind of thing.

Are you serious, is this really how their next encounter is shown?
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>>102184703
NT3...was not a popular volume to put things lightly, the only thing people positively remember about it is El Presidente, and Worst trolling Umidori
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>>102182539
>describes his micropenis in great detail
Citation needed.
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Gravity won't affect him if he doesn't let it. What about that time when he went retarded in that one episode with that faggot that pulled his punches. Why didn't he fly into the fucking corner of the room and explode after slamming into the wall?
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>>102184810
Do they ever get a proper encounter after that?

Like Mikoto being passive aggressive while Accelerator telling she's to blame too, because it's her idiocy that started the program anyway?
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>>102159652
It's like you throwing a ball. You calculate a ton, but you don't think of it as actually crunching numbers.
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>>102184940
They haven't met again since then, and I can't see NT10 giving that any screentime since much more important shit is happening
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>>102163810
>mikoto is pretty obsessive and psychopathic
Proofs?
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>>102186452
Threadly reminder that Mikoto almost literally killed Touma while he had gunshot wounds, and refused to aid him in his master plan because Cendrillon was there being helpful instead of being a bitch.
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>>102186587
Threadly reminder low quality bite.jpg
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>>102186655
>bite
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>>102186587
>and refused to aid him in his master plan
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>>102174114
But we're just saying there's nothing wrong with it as long as people don't stupidly assume that their personalities are a result of brain damage. This ain't proof of shit.
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>>102186752
Tricking GREMLIN and Ollerus' group while curing Fraulein from eating brains.
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>>102184703
People in the series tend not to hold grudges over things.
Also Touma probably said to Mikoto that accelerator was going to be there too beforehand.
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>>102186655
She also tried to rope Touma into accepting special rings as so he would be faithful to her as if they are already a couple despite not confessing to him yet.
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>>102184940
Well, as Accel and Mikoto interactions have been something I've been hoping for I can sum up their interactions in the Hawaii arc.

One shocked glace (From Mikoto)
Eye contact (Shared)
Misaka telling accel that she wants to talk to him later, and he replies basically says I owe you nothing.
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>>102186807
Reread NT6. You're looks like a assreader.
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>>102186452
>needing proof
She's one the most obvious sociopaths in anime
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>>102186859
Make me.
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>>102186880
>I have no argument please respond
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>>102186849
>give rings
>not confessing
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>>102186969
not even same person as >>102163810 which should serve as more proof than you currently have
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So has anyone else noticed that Kamachi seems to have a fetish for shipping little boys with Valkyries?
>Brunhild and Ceillier
>The entirety of Waltraute-san
I suppose it's a bit better than his scent, and Suffering Touma fetish
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>>102159334
I'm a bit late to the party, but I think that his "calculations" work the same way like our "calculations". When you throw a ball to the basket, you adjust the angle of throw and the energy you put into moving the ball, depending on your distance to the basket. You don't solve any equations in your mind, yet you set the acceleration vector of the ball. If your "calculations" fail, you will miss, if they succeed, you will score.
Accelerator just has way more versatility, can use way higher energies and is way more precise than a mere human. He can throw thousands of balls to thousands of baskets at the same time and not miss even once.

By the way, have you ever picked something up thinking it's heavy as fuck, only to realize it's actually light? Or stepped up or down some elevation thinking it's higher/lower than it really is? That was just you miscalculating some vectors.
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>>102187016
Then may I refer to >>102171122

Also for the next argument "just look at" is an anecdote and carries little value.
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>>102184940
>her idiocy

She was, what, five at the time?

Are you seriously going to blame a five-year-old for being tricked by a bunch of adults?

"Wow, this five-year-old sure was STUPID for letting these scientists trick her into giving them her DNA map!"
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>>102187543
Don't respond him. It's obvious baiting
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>>102187034
The man likes his lolis and shotas having older people into them is all
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>>102187034
Gotta stay gender neutral, both in the punching and in the shipping.



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