don't forget about yourself
tomoyo and kyou saw my penis
Kyou and Tomoyo are the only things that make the show worth watching.
You get to see more of them (and Sunohara and Nagisa too) in Bamboo Blade, if you know what I mean.
Shoop some bunny ears and whiskers on her.
Fuko and Nagisa is where it's at BEECHEES.
Fucking Key, FUCK NAGISA! I want my Kyou/Tomoyo ending. Any more info on the rumor about Clannad being 50 episodes?
Saved for future anti-trolling.
i lost u
It's 22 episodes, with "extra" episodes airing after.
It's obviously bullshit. Unless they do a Tomoyo After sequel.
Her eyes are much bigger than the glasses. Only the lower half gets magnified.
A second season is pretty much guarantee at that point, the only question is when will they do it.
Tomoyo is too awesome for Key faggots to make Tomoyo after.
Key always fucks shit up.
A fine example of this is Kanon.
Tomoyo is too awesome for KyoAni faggots to make Tomoyo after.
I doubt it.
When one girl appears front and centre and is otherwise the poster girl you shouldn't expect anything else.
On that note I'm just going to go replay the last scenes from the Tomoyo, Kyou and Kotomi arcs over and over and forget they animated anything at all.
Maybe it will be like Hayate, and randomly become longer than 13 episodes(in Hayate's case)
Seeing how they've put Ushio and a scene from the epiloghe in the freaking opening and that Ishihara said in an interview he would tell the whole story, a second season is guaranteed.
Maybe it will be in the form of OVA though, like Air in Summer.
Needed more Nayuki ;_;
Fuck you, Kanon was great.
There's going to be an OVA in july.
holy fuuuuuuuuuuuck that is far away
Kanon was even worse, overdramatic bullshit.
Compelling argument idiot.
Though Tomoyo After is shit compared to Nagisa After.
I used to say the same until I played the After Story. Nagisa is still faaar from being my favourite character; I just don't dislike her anymore.
Tomoyo After doesn't have excessive drama.
Oh. I guess Tomoya getting drive-by'd and memory-pan + 10% sucesss rate surgery is no drama.
I never said there wasn't drama in Tomoyo After. I said there wasn't excessive drama.
Most of the drama in Tomoyo After takes place by the end, whereas the After Story is full of drama from the beginning to the end.
>When one girl appears front and centre and is otherwise the poster girl you shouldn't expect anything else.
Shame that its very rarely the best that gets put front and center in everything.
Japan thinks that Nagisa IS the best.
I bet they just couldn't trigger the Kotomi flag in the game because they suck at Clannad
Elevens like their moeblobs useless and weak-bodied lol.
Sunohara and Tomoyo seemed like they were going out in the movie.
While there's lot of drama in the After Story, it's not that excessive and it's never at the level of something like Air or even something like Little Busters. The drama in Tomoyo After actually feel far more forced.
Well Nagisa does have the best route if you count the After Story, I would love to have a Kyou After though.
Tomoyo is stronger, Kyou is meaner, Fuko is weirder and Kotomi is vastly more intelligent. It figures with the 11's inferiority and sexism complexes that they naturally pick the weakest one.
Well, they both make a good ammount of forced drama, though it's both things that could potentially happen in a normal life.
Tomoya going super-emo and not even caring about his wife's daughter until after she grows up though is pretty forced if you ask me.
Of course, Tomoyo After also has the whole "IMMA TAKE CARE OF HIM FOR 3 YEARS TO GET HIM TO REMEMBER OVER AND OVER EVEN THOUGH I KNOW IT'S FUTILE AND HIS ONLY CHANCE IS THE LOW-SUCESS RATE OPERATION!". Then again, without that, there wouldn't be much of a story.
Nagisa is a flawed character but that's one of her charm, to see her develop into a really strong character during her route and her After Story was great.
They are all flawed, but having AIDS I'd say is the worst of them all.
Tomoyo is far too perfect.
For Tomoya and Ushio in the game(not the movie), he honestly thought that Ushio would be happier with Sanae and Akio and that he couldn't raise her normally. He still saw her every week though, things like that often happen, not everyone is fit to be a parent.
She's manly and overbearing and a gimmicky character at times which gets annoying
Thats the only flaw i can on Tomoyo. She's too perfect.
Wait...those glasses look familiar...
You DON'T want it, I can assure that your faggy whining is only due to the fact you don't know what's ahead.
Anyways, after two weeks of peace, the return of whiny Kyou fanboys
Except in this case. Enjoy talking without knowing what you speak about, faggot.
Tomoyo is a Mei clone anyway
You mean Mai.
other than kicking ass, I don't see how they're similar.
No After in the anime but there's still the manga.
One of my favorite scene in the game.
I like both Nagisa and Tomoyo the best, seconded by Kotomi then Kyou. What's with all this faggotry about "My favorite girl loses RAGGGEEEE" again?
That makes far too much sense to be wasted.
Saved for future "who's the right girl" discussion threads.
Tomoyo sands like a man
Shitty character is shitty
Kyou is awesome, but her route sucks, it would have been stupid to animate it. Blame Key for giving Kyou to a newfag writer. The anime sucks anyway, bad pacing, too much fuuko, shit animation (lol speedlines/motion blur).
If they ever make an OVA covering the Tomoyo route, I'll be interested, until then SHIT SUX.
Faggots don't know about my selectable routes.
Nagisa is the perfect wife.
That has been discussed before. A lot. In general, Tomoyo is the best but not automatically the "right" girl. Nagisa is the right girl but not best.
Saying any girl is the best is stupid, thinly veiled Tomoyofag
Actually, i favor Nagisa more than Tomoyo. But that doesnt blind me from seeing the truth.
It all depends on how you watch this shit. Are you vicariously living through the main character and being pissed when he ends up picking the girl you didn't pick? If so, stop it.
>vicariously living through the main character
Isn't that the only way to actually watch harem/romance shows?
I find it only leads to disappointment. Rather entertain yourself with the pathetic talk that in some imaginary world someone else thought up your girl is still "available".
Gothohara, as awesome as ever
Nagisa is still <3
So is Kotomi and Tomoyo.
Yes they are. I find it funny that people would still RAGGEEE about their girl losing when it was obvious from the start that Nagisa would win this.
Is that Slut Yuki in the background?
I think it's Rie's friend in the Choir Club.
Also, where the fuck is Yoshino Yuusuke in the anime? Damn them.
Only in the After Story he gets the spot light. Here's hoping for the Summer Episode would be the Baseball game and Laser Tag.
They didn't even show the scene with Sunohara or when Tomoya helps him with his job. He could have gotten some screentime at least.
It's not like there would be a lot of story with a Tomoyo ending, meeting, dating, election, shit's over. Eat it fags, the only reason for Tomoyo to exist is to include another harem choice into the story. Bad enough that the series had to include those two hideous episodes to give Tomoyo and Ryou fags a bit satisfaction. I hope the movie cut out anything harem, or best cut the four generic harem choices altogether out of the story.
They dont exist anymore.
HAHA NAGISA DIES
When the fuck are Tomoya and Nagisa supposed to start dating?
Tomoyo? More like ToMOEyo!
And I suppose there's a lot with Nagisa? Meet, reform club, drama play, kiss, end.
Also, Nagisa is as generic moeblob as it gets. At least each of the other girls have interesting and defining traits.
In the VN, its when Nagisa decided to give up the Drama Club for the sake of Rie. But gets Kyoublocked in the anime. They'll probably start dating in the series after the play.
I RESURRECTED HER FAGGOT
Seconded. This whole weak bodied moeblob shit is getting tiresome.
I'm still here!
Well, to be fair, while Nagisa cannot compete with Tomoyo or Kyou in personality, she has a great supporting cast behind her.
you are an idiot. Every route could be summed up in short plot points. And face it the Nagisa school arc is shit, after story is good.
Nagisa's school arc is actually fun.
Well Nagisa's route by itself isn't supposed to be self contained and if you count the After Story it definitely has more substance than the other routes
No it isn't.
Tomyofags butthurt much?
Tomoyo is the most Clannad girl, even Kotomi is more interesting.
Yes it is. You're just too biased to realize it yet.
no it isn't. shit put me to sleep in the game.
Well sucks to be you.
BAWWW more faggots. Her school arc is boring and nothing special. If there was no after story, her route would be on par with Fuuko, better than Kyou's, but worse than Kotomi, Yukine and Tomoyo.
Fuuko is the best choice.
Nagisa's route is good because it doesnt rely on Nagisa herself solely, it relies on character interaction, which is a strong point in a character driven story.
what a complete load of shit. All the routes are about character interaction.
That's just your opinion.
Tomoyo route was the most uninteresting route in the game imo. Even Komamura route was sadder.
And yet you cant even say a reason why it sucks. Hah.
Let me rephrase it, Nagisa's route has great character interaction compared to most of the routes.
BORING is a damn good reason. I play/watch stuff for entertainment. Also I hate people like Nagisa in real life, why would care about a character like her? I played her route to see if my initial impression of her was wrong, it wasn't.
Reasons, reasons, tell us why you find it boring.
I liked it particularly for Tomoya's actions. Leaving her because he thinks he's dragging her down is not something most people could do. And yet, she never accepts it and goes against everything to stay with him.
It's not my favourite route, but it's close.
>I hate people like Nagisa in real life, why would care about a character like her?
There's your problem faggot. How could you find interest in something you hate? You must be retarded.
OK, you don't like Nagisa. I respect your opinion.
I just did. Don't like people like Nagisa, they are boring characters. Always nice, moeblob shit. Her family is supernice and lets people move in, gay. Just accept the fact that I don't like it faggot. Shit, Nagisafans are the worst. Atleast Kyoufags know their route sucks.
Without Nagisa there would be no Clannad? Did you even play it, faggot?
I PLAYED IT TO SEE IF I WAS WRONG ABOUT HER FAGGOT.
There's barely worthwile in Tomoyo's route. Woohoo, dating and now there's an election, oh it's over, right there was also her brother who tried to kill himself, totally unrelated though.
Only reason her shitty arc and Kyo's shitty arcs exist is to add another harem stereotype girl to the story.
Could have done without it and more random sidecharacter stories for lights.
Mind you hate is also part of love.
You can't hate something you don't care.
Maybe there's some bias going on there?
I'm not criticizing for not liking Nagisa, if that's your final opinion I won't argue about it.
This thread is like December-January all over again.
I fucking loves these threads, since I really like all these characters and this bitter arguing warms my heart.
Actually, if you play any of the other routes and shoo away Nagisa when you first meet her, she quits school, never to be seen again. Guess what, the game goes on and doesn't magically quit to desktop.
(I never do that though, because that's just mean. At least be friends to the poor friendless girl, I say)
The fact that you hated people like her didnt get through your brain? Wow, you must be really retarded.
>Shit, Nagisafans are the worst. Atleast Kyoufags know their route sucks.
Because Nagisa route is actually good?
If you can't enjoy it because you have bias against the character it's not the game's fault.
We had peace at that time actually. Until late January.
>Mind you hate is also part of love. You can't hate something you don't care.
what a load of shit.
Let's just agree that Kotomi's route was amazing and be done with it
what are you stupid? I played it to see if she had more to her than the nice weak girl shit. I was wrong. I gave her a chance, there might have been a twist or something.
Its somewhat true. If you dont care about something, you'll be only indifferent to it.
You care enough to troll it.
trolling threads doesn't mean I care about a character.
When you don't care you just minimize and move on.
When you troll it's because you have some sentiment for it.
not really. I'm just bored. But you can keep believing I have some tsundere thing if you want, I don't give a shit.
Just like doing it for the "lulz" eh? Typical excuse.
>>worse than Kotomi,
>>Yukine and Tomoyo.
No no no no. I laugh at your weak troll-fu. Yukine and Tomoyo's route may be nice, but they're surely not better than Nagisa's.
Now, suck my dick.
like I said, believe what you want. Whatever helps you sleep at night.
You're the embodiment of tsundere, anon.
Just like i said, its an obvious excuse.
I, for one, agree with this anon. Though i think Tomoyo's route have a certain impact and charm to it.
>>I'm EXTREME!!! I'll fuck you mom in the ass with a razor dildo while I'm doing a drive-by in a buick with a fucking monkey!!!
Fun to see that these who complain about that are the one who are actually like that in real life. Except they won't ever get better. And end as an hero.
if I was internet tough guy, I would bother playing Clannad now would I.
I'm the one who you're referring to.
In fact, I drew the Clannad ending reaction chart, and every part of what's drawn was my pure reaction to the endings.
I agree with you, Tomoyo's route made me all "wuzzy and fuzzy feeling around". She's the best waifu and all.
But still, it felt a bit lacking on the rest. It didn't have the finality of Kotomi's, it didn't have the evolution and complection of Nagisa's, but it was nice to have a route where Tomoya actually knows what he wants and he will do everything he wants for it. The same with the girl he likes from the start in it.
We could say that makes Tomoyo a bit too perfect.
But hell, we're playing fucking Visual Novels for otakus.
We're not expecting something "realist".
This is 4chan, nothing makes sense here.
Oh right. I forgot.
Plus, we're on /a/. Trolling ahoy!
He was so reasonable that he got deleted.
It's so refreshing when you read an opinion of someone that doesn't mean it as fact... I wish there are more people like that on /a/.
Good post got divided by zero. Does not comply with /a/ standards
Nah, I deleted it because the picture was already multi-posted and I thought as some kind of whoring.
I regret to not have copypasta'd the text to repost it without the picture.
Plus, wall-of-text-rant in an obiviously troll infested thread = Pissing in an ocean.
Nagisa may suck, but her family was the only thing that made After Story bearable. Akio & Sanae made After Story for me. Everything else sucked (well, Ushio was alright).
Ah, the return of an old /a/ character war thread does make me have hope for /a/.
P.S.= Kyou is love and blue panties
It's because of topics like this one that I like /a/.
Anyway, the game was fine but, I think it could have been a lot better. I would have liked it more if they would have had different types of families (instead of just one), and different types of ways in which a character grows up and deals with his issues.
Also, I won't deny it, and say that I would have liked that Kyou got a better route. I think it would have been better if either Maeda or Suzumoto wrote it; Kai, in my opinion, proved to be quite mediocre (I'm not going to say terrible because, I quite liked Kappei's route).
Another thing I didn't like was that the issues in Tomoyo's life were all solved before the story even started (her family's problems being over, and her brother being fine).
Lastly, I would have loved to have a full Yukine's route (instead of just a sub-route). Especially when I read that interview with Maeda in which he said it would have been a dark (although, I wonder what would "dark" mean by Key standards) and sad route.
where is kappei in the anime?
He was left out since he is irrelevant to the main story.
Speaking as a Kyou fan, I think her route was one of the weakest and most generic and ripped right from a soap opera. Despite that, I can concede that Nagisa was the best route to be animated for better or worse.
You don't choose your favorite girl cause it would make the best anime. In the end, everyone in here was honest, but if you think hard, only Nagisa's route is most full in speaking to the family theme that this story is named after. You can like your favorite girl and still see her route played out in the VN, but frankly, for the integrity of the story, Nagisa's route was inevitable.
Having said that, each route had it's own strengths.
Tomoyo's: Hottest unapologetic romance, and Sunohara kicking ass.
Kotomi: Unique, poignant, powerful, sometimes side-hurting hilarious, and heart-warming. Sunohara no where to be found.
Fuko: Hilarious, and Sunohara was present so this makes it good.
Kyou: Best sexual tension, and SunoGARa to the rescue saving Kyou's dignity (Those who've played know what I'm talking about).
Misae: MILF. tits. Get the damn point?
>Kotomi: Unique, poignant, powerful, sometimes side-hurting hilarious, and heart-warming. Sunohara no where to be found.
In my opinion, there are only 2 things which prevent Kotomi's route from being perfect. One being the lack of Sunohara, and the most important, the lack of insight on Tomoya's life.
>saving Kyou's dignity (Those who've played know what I'm talking about).
Yes but, things only go well if Tomoya shows up when those two are talking. Otherwise, you get a bad end.
>Yukine: Touching and unforced drama which develops a three dimensional relationship... and Sunohara (AT HOOOOME!!!)
You forget the Curses Games, and Sunohara snapping (that was awesome).
I like all of them.
>the lack of insight on Tomoya's life
You don't need to have that in every route for two reasons.
2. Tomoya doesn't have to make up with his dad or even talk about it to have a happy life. In every route except after story, it's safe to assume Tomoya moves out into an apartment ( or into Kotomi's house if it's her route ) after school and never deals with his dad again.
I was thinking about it as an independent story. And in that route, there was barely any development on the main character's issues.
Also, I'm not saying his issues should receive the same approach in every route. They could have him overcome them in different ways.
>>10223757 Also, I'm not saying his issues should receive the same approach in every route. They could have him overcome them in different ways.
That would've been a good intergration. Although from an official interview with the creators, they said their target size for the game was like 50% beyond what they were planning to make.