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Who would win ?
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>>102144902
Yamcha.
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Yamcha is the power of the Wolf.
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>>102145328
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Tien
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>>102144902

Even Yamcha could beat Mr.Satan.
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>>102144902
You know this thread has that same thread on /v/
>>231807479
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Yamcha as he was way back in early Dragon Ball? I honestly don't know. Satan is actually really strong compared to normal people, he only looks like a joke because he tries to fight cosmic gods and shit.
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>>102145711
yep desert bandit Yamcha vs the ''strongest'' Mr Satan (from cell saga), l guess
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Mr. Satan
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satan was the tournament champion
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>>102145711

Mr.Satan can't even fly, Yamcha can. Ironically, Mr.Satan might be stronger than Goku in physical strength, seeing as Mr.Satan pulled an entire trainload before while Goku can't even manage 40 tons.
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I hope Bulma hope cheer for Yamcha!
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>>102145711
>Satan is actually really strong compared to normal people

Not really. The feats of strength we see Mr. Satan do could have easily been rigged and it's common knowledge that Mr. Satan isn't above paying people off.

So I go with Yamcha based solely on the fact that he actually had techniques that weren't simply a regular attack with a ridiculous name.
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>>102146168
I ment
>I hope Bulma will cheer for Yamcha to win this tournament.
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>>102146183

Nah, Videl was strong as fuck too, because she was Mr.Satan's daughter.
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Yamcha, he might be one of whe weakest characters in the show but he is still 10,000 more powerfull than the average human martial artist.

By the end of Z even Yamcha could have beaten King Piccolo with just 1 punch and King Piccolo was legues above any human.
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>>102145813
>yep desert bandit Yamcha vs the ''strongest'' Mr Satan (from cell saga), l guess

Then Yamcha easily, because Cell Saga Mr. Satan was notorious for being a scam artist. The dude was a world champion in an area where none of the strong fighters from Kid Goku's era had already retired out of fear of fighting Piccolo Jr., Tenshinhan, Goku or Krillin.
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>>102146264
>Nah, Videl was strong as fuck too, because she was Mr.Satan's daughter.

Videl was also dogshit who couldn't learn ki control, compared to Yamcha who showed an aptitude for learning.
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>>102146264
>Nah, Videl was strong as fuck too, because she was Mr.Satan's daughter.

The only thing Videl was a good damage sponge. That's literally all she got from Mr. Satan. That would explain why Satan was able to survive being swatted by Cell.
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>>102145482
>Even Yamcha could beat Mr.Satan.
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>>102146460
That worthless Yamcha Bulma couldn't of seeing his Boyfriend lying in the hole.
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Yamcha is always a bastard to fight.
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Yamcha weakness is losing and shyness about Girls.
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Yamcha: I would have to be marry or at least have a few dates!!!
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>>102146460
>sleepy wolf technique
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>>102145813
>cell saga
It was a bit long for a fight
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Yamcha wasn't anything special before he joined the Kame school and started supernatural training. Mr. Satan was implied to be the strongest natural human fighter in his time.
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>>102147525
>strongest natural-fighter human*
As in a human fighting without supernatural ability. Obviously I know the human fighters with ki training as stronger.
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>>102147525
Well Bulma has tries to confront Master Roshi to make Yamcha joined the Kame school and started supernatural training or else Bulma will never share the waifu or boobs to Roshi again unless Roshi will agree to her.
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I bet Mr.Satan would've been stronger than Yamcha with proper training.

Also, Mr.Satan is way fucking cooler than Yamcha.
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This is some of the worst English I've seen in a while.
I'm gonna go out on a limb and assume the majority of the posts in this thread came from Mexico and Brazil.

Mr. Satan as of the Cell saga vs Yamcha as of first meeting Goku?
Assuming Yamcha couldn't run away like the coward shit he is, Mr. Satan's power and endurance would make him the victor.
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>>102148019
Because that's where he first lay eyes on Bulma whiling she was sleeping.
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>>102148066
>Because that's where he first lay eyes on Bulma whiling she was sleeping.
stop posting, you dont even understand english
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>>102148066
And Yamcha got scare and lost his fight with Goku.
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>>102148217
Well maybe Bulma would like to fuck Yamcha!
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>>102145977

Satan couldn't train under 500x Gravity.
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Could Yamcha fight Vetega to win for Bulma or the other away around?
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>>102144902
roga fufuken?
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Mr Satan is Crazy!
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>>102147067
didn't he fuck women after women once he became a baseball player
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Dragon Ball Yamcha would get steam rolled. Yamcha after the last Dragon Ball time skip could do it.

Satan is actually as strong as Roshi, just with no chi control.
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>>102144902
I don't know, but he had best seiyuu and best theme.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kr7BKP5amM
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>>102149962
>Satan is actually as strong as Roshi, just with no chi control.

This is what retards actually believe? It's clear you never watched Dragon Ball.

Mr. Satan only had above average endurance for a human. As a martial artist, he was laughable weak. He was the world champion because people like King Chappa didn't compete anymore because they didn't want to run into monsters like Son Goku, Tenshinhan or Piccolo. Mr. Satan was also infamous for bribing people, so I wouldn't put it past him to pay off someone like Nam, if they decided to enter the tournaments again.

Compared to even shitty beginning of Dragon Ball, Mr. Satan is a joke. That Yamcha's Wolf Fang Fist was powerful enough to send kid Goku through several stone pillar is a pretty damn good indicator that he'd destroy Mr. Satan who couldn't even break a stack of tiles; even if the aforementioned attack from Yamcha didn't do any damage to Goku.
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>>102148671
I think that was a what-if scenario in one of the games, he wins but then gets a big ego and goes to find hotter babes
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Jesus christ, this thread.
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Too bad we dont have a power level for Hercule
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>>102147790
this, Mr. Satan is the strongest none energy manipulating human. If he had started training when he was yonger by the Cell Saga he would have been at lest Tien level
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>>102149797
Yeah, even when he break up with Bulma
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=neaT_HJbQIY
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>>102150627
>Mr. Satan is the strongest none energy manipulating human

What about Nam in Dragonball? He could sense ki, but I don't believe he used it to attack

Bacterian is arguably stronger, and nothing about him was ki-based
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>>102150293
I've read the manga. Also his official power level was over 100; I forget the exact number.
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>>102144902
Yamcha would obliterate him.

Yamcha may be the shittiest Z fighter by a long-ass shot. but he's still like, 100x stronger and more capable than any normal human.

In fact, his life was going pretty fucking awesome until they convinced him to start fighting with them again - he was a pro baseball player and basically excelling in all the ways anyone with super-strength, the ability to fly, and the power to shoot lasers out of their hands would in the normal human world.

Goku and the gang are the worst thing that happened to him.
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>>102150874
>power of over 20 farmers

probably could defeat Yamcha at the beginning of the series, or at least give him a challenge
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>>102150874
Wasn't it 110? Which would make him the same strength as Chichi in the tournament she fought in.
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>>102150817

Colonel Silver and Chi-Chi are also very powerful humans

You could argue that Chi-Chi seems to have some grasp of ki, if only when emotional

Either way, Colonel Silver was shown to be faster than Goku, and able to beat multiple world champion professional boxers. Satan would not stand a chance against Silver
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>>102144902
Wolf Fang Fist.
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>subbed DBZ comes up on the random TV show stream I leave open
>filthy toonami casuals start complaining about Goku's voice actress
>"omg lol whys it so weird"
>claim the american dub voice cast is "iconic"
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>>102150963
The picture is of original, desert bandit Yamcha. Back when he was a bum who went around robbing people.
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>>102151287
How can you even defend granny Goku? Not like the dubs were "better" but at the very least they were somewhat appropriate in that regard.
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>>102151182
Satan wouldn't stand a chance against a lot of people because his technique is shit. He still have a very respectable strength.
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>>102151287
To be honest, it was shit.
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>>102151287
The American voice cast is iconic as hell, as far as weeaboo culture goes. Every self-respecting weeaboo should be able to instantly recognise any of those characters from their voices.

We are not in Japan.
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>>102151287
muh japanese purity
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>>102151578
>Every self-respecting weeaboo
So like, a tiny, tiny fraction of American culture.

Granny Goku is the most iconic voice in all of Japan. Every single person, young or old, knows it, even if they're not animefags.
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>>102151180
Correction, she was 130.
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>>102151663
So we agree, they are both iconic?
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>>102151578
>Every self-respecting weeaboo
That's an oxymoron. Also, no, plenty of use were watching Dragon Ball (Z) subbed on bootleg fan sub VHS tapes before the series aired in English.

I'll agree that adult Goku having the same VA in Japan was dumb.
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I like Yamcha, he used to be pretty cool and then he was just so outclassed by all those fucking aliens. I don't think he deserves all the hate he gets.
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>>102151914
This is why Dragonball is so much superior to Dragonball Z. Goku is still the strongest and the power levels do grow exponentially, but the original crew never get out of sight.
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>anyone beating Mr. Satan
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>>102151714
>correction
The highest official power level is Freezer's second form, which is 1million.
This chart can't even get that right, and everything past that 1million is pure guesswork.
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The announcer would win. He knows all the techniques.

Also, Yajirobe is the strongest regular human.
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>>102152592
But that's the official chart, straight from JUMP.
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>>102152740
Bullshit. Krillin trains to become far, far more powerful than Yajirobe.
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>>102152897
Regular humans have noses.
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>>102152818
Almost everything in it is wrong though. It is just some fanwank made by a fan who happened to write for the same magazine DBZ was published in.
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>>102152818
Not straight from Toriyama. And again, they couldn't even get it right for known levels.
In the manga, the highest power level stated was the 1million second form Freezer.
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>>102152968
DBZ Yamcha then.
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>>102151714

>Posting Fake V-Jump scans

Kill yourself.

http://www.kanzenshuu.com/battle-power/fake/
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>>102153002
>Not straight from Toriyama.
Wasn't it though? One of those big JUMP charts ( the newest one ) was supposed to be.
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>>102153172
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>>102150874
>>102151180

That chart is fake as hell.

Mr. Satan probably isn't even above 20 power level.
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>>102153172
Nope.
See: >>102153071

I do remember seeing a two page spread that did have a lot of odd power levels in it though. Mr Satan is on the real one.
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>>102153219
>at the very least gone over 1,000,000
>over 1,000,000

So what's the problem?
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>>102153219
Have a better scan.
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>>102153407
>at least one million
>at least

Ah, good, still no problem.
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>>102152897
I mean humans who do not float or have energy attacks, just like Mr. Satan
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>>102144902

Based on the fact that Yamcha's Power level was 177 at the beginning of DBZ and Mr. Satan has NEVER shown anything approaching the power level of the farmer from the the beginning of DBZ (5) it's fair to assumed even scaled back to Dragon Ball power level, Yamcha would at least have a power level of 7, if we kid Son Goku started the series off at 10, so based solely on the fact that Yamcha despite being a coward back then could actually fight compared to the smoke, mirrors and bullshit we SEE Mr. Satan shit out all the time, Yamcha wins this easily, though I'd say Mr. Satan will be able to take a shitload of punishment before being KO'd.
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It'd probably be a good fight.
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>>102153407
wait, who's scanlating those? I thought HAO scans were only at King Piccolo.
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>>102154605

Probably that guy who's still using the dub names and taking polls and shit to decide whether or not to use the dub name for special attacks, though the project as a whole is just him copy-pasting the old horrid fan scanlation script onto a good quality scan of the volume re-release.
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Let's be honest.

Mr. Satan probably would have survived that Saibaman explosion.
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>>102154764
Good enough I guess. Dragon Ball's scans are fucking horrible.
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>>102154806
>Mr. Satan probably would have survived that Saibaman explosion.

Maybe in the TFS DBZ Abridged he would have.
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>>102154855
>Good enough I guess. Dragon Ball's scans are fucking horrible.

I'd rather wait for HAO to catch up. I'm sure that other guy has admitted on more than one occasion that he isn't even translating shit and just reusing the old scans regardless of the spelling mistakes and misinformation.
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>>102154972
>I'm sure that other guy has admitted on more than one occasion that he isn't even translating shit and just reusing the old scans regardless of the spelling mistakes and misinformation.

What's the fucking point of even releasing that shit if he isn't even translating it?
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>>102155024
>What's the fucking point of even releasing that shit if he isn't even translating it?

Because E-Penis points. That's why decisions like translating the names of the techniques and characters are left up to votes instead of actually translating it properly.
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>>102155024
Because it's painful to read shitty manga scans from left to right.
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>>102154764
>dub names
huh?

HAO did up to the end of Dragon Ball.
Mofugoku is finishing up from there to Freeza.
Some other guy started with the Buu arc.
Doesn't look like anyone has plans for the Android arc.
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>>102155195
Oh wait. Hao isn't finsihed and there are some anon scans for the end of Picolo, but was he even planning past that?
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>>102146183
No. Mr. Satan only gained the power and fame after legitimately winning the world championship. He was the strongest normal human in the world at some point in time.
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>>102155195
HAO is up to volume 9.
10, 11, and 12 are the shitty translations.
Mofugoku picked.... actually I'm confused now. Who has done what?
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>>102155401
>Mr. Satan only gained the power and fame after legitimately winning the world championship.

We've already seen how Mr. Satan isn't above bribing people to let him win, so it's highly likely the 'legit' tournaments he's won would through bribery. I wouldn't be surprised if he promised guys like Nam or King Chappa the prize money from the tournament, in exchange of him getting all the fame that comes with being the champion.
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>>102154806
With cartoon physics probably. He's a comedy character, they are pretty hard to kill.
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>>102155401
>He was the strongest normal human in the world at some point in time.

That doesn't explain why Mr. Satan doesn't know shit about real martial arts techniques or ki, especially if you consider people like Nam might have started competing in the tournaments again after Goku and friends stop competing for years.

I'm thinking Mr. Satan was a fraud from the beginning and just lucky enough to pay his way through any tournaments with real competition.
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>implying Yamcha can win against this theme song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mudZ3QykX10
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>>102155653
>especially if you consider people like Nam might have started competing in the tournaments again after Goku and friends stop competing for years.
>implying Toriyama even remembered any of the original competitors of the DB-era tournaments
He fucking forgot Earth was a planet filled with dinosaurs and animal people while doing the Namek arc, you expect him to remember all those famous martial artists?
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>>102155532
>>102155653

It's like Mr. Satan WAS a fraud, since Toriyama made a point to have it revealed that people eventually got sick of his bullshit fighting schools, if we're to go off that DBO pre-story he wrote. Granted it took Pan years to legitimize her grandfather's school, but it's still some food for thought. Just going by how often he pays Android 18 off to take dives, it stands to reason he wasn't even half as strong as his bullshitting would have the masses believe, which was the point of the character.
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>All these delusional fags
Mr.Satan is the strongest! THE STRONGEST!
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>>102155750
>He fucking forgot Earth was a planet filled with dinosaurs and animal people while doing the Namek arc, you expect him to remember all those famous martial artists?

The fuck are you talking about? The animal people were still around during the Saiyan arc and Namek, if you read the fucking manga.
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>>102155653
Satan seems like the hardy, self-taught street brawler gone gold kind of guy. He doesn't seem like the person who would focus on the mental dicipline required to manipulate ki.
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>>102155750
>He fucking forgot Earth was a planet filled with dinosaurs and animal people while doing the Namek arc, you expect him to remember all those famous martial artists?

Oh, so you're going with the "HURR DURR Toriyama forgot guys" defense, huh?
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>>102156051
>Satan seems like the hardy, self-taught street brawler gone gold kind of guy. He doesn't seem like the person who would focus on the mental dicipline required to manipulate ki.

He also lulled his fans into thinking pulling buses and breaking stakes of tiles were god-tier feats of strength. It's likely Mr. Satan was a shit fighter that knew how to bullshit the audience first and bribe his opponents second.
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>>102155750
>He fucking forgot Earth was a planet filled with dinosaurs and animal people while doing the Namek arc, you expect him to remember all those famous martial artists?

I'm sure Toriyama remembered the Dragon Ball characters back when he was working on Namek.

The memory issues didn't start until 10 years after the series was over. I'm sure he made Mr. Satan just to drive home the point that creditable martial artists like King Chappa and Nam stop participating in tournaments out of fear of running into monsters like Son Goku and Piccolo, along with the fact that they were targeted and KILLED by King Piccolo for being strong.

The fact we know that a piece of shit like Spopovich lost to Mr. Satan in the tournament before the Buu Saga suggests that Mr. Satan has some fighting ability, but it's painfully obvious that he was smart enough to take advantage of the fact that no real martial artist would dare enter tournaments anymore, especially since he already stole the credit for defeating Cell.
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>>102156163

You forget for the average person breaking a huge stack of tiles and pulling buses and shit IS a godly tier feat of strength.
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>>102157165
>You forget for the average person breaking a huge stack of tiles and pulling buses and shit IS a godly tier feat of strength.

Not in Dragon Ball's world, where even people like Yamcha can develop a technique strong enough to send a person through several stone pillars.

You'd have an argument if Dragon World Earth = Our Earth.
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>>102157165
>You forget for the average person breaking a huge stack of tiles and pulling buses and shit IS a godly tier feat of strength.

Not in Dragon Ball's standards. I'd say shit like being able to transform like Puar and Oolong, if not Ranchi personality switching is more impressive and that's not even getting into people who can manipulate ki.
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>>102156821
He forgot Lunch/Launch/whatever exists.
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>>102156163
Mr. Satan is only able to bribe people due to the prize money from the world championship and the fame his victories garnered him. Without it, he wouldn't be able to bribe himself to victory, and he'd have to fight fair. No way he had the money to bribe someone to drop out of the finale before actually winning it himself.
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What makes you think Satan would stand a chance?
Yamcha could take even one of the henchmen from Tree of Might.
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>>102157696
>He forgot Lunch/Launch/whatever exists.

At the end of Dragon Ball, after the fucking series was running for 10 years.

Also, that was debunked several years ago, in that Toriyama didn't forget her, so much as drew Android 17 on the page she was supposed to appear on, as a placeholder, but left her dialog, while in a rush to finish the chapter that week.

The anime actually corrects this.
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>>102157846
>Mr. Satan is only able to bribe people due to the prize money from the world championship and the fame his victories garnered him.

You do realize Mr. Satan could have won the first couple of tournaments during the time the real fighters like King Chappa chose not to enter anymore, and just bribed everyone that followed, right?

Mr. Satan can definitely fight, but you're insane if you seriously don't think he didn't win a few chickenshit tournaments during the years after Goku and his friends stopped competing.
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>>102157846

You also have to remember even if there were strong guys like Nam still capable of entering those tournaments, they were probably too afraid to since they've already been killed by King Piccolo for being strong.

I believe Mr. Satan lucked into winning the first tournament, used the fame to amass as shitload of money that it didn't matter who entered the following tournaments, up to Cell, because he could just pay them off to let him win.
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>>102155532

Satan didn't get rich until he became the world champ

So he legitimately won at least once
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>>102158884
>>102159055
One victory would still not be enough to bribe others out. Why would you give up the spot as the victor for the same amount of money you'd win, except you wouldn't be recognized for it? No other world champion became as revered or famous as Mr. Satan after one victory, so he must've won several times to be able to bribe himself to victory.

Anyways, would you care to tell me about the strong fighters not entering? I forgot all about that. It's been a while since I read DB, and it was in Norwegian, so it might've been left out.
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>>102159386
>Why would you give up the spot as the victor for the same amount of money you'd win, except you wouldn't be recognized for it?

King Piccolo for one.

>>102159386
>Anyways, would you care to tell me about the strong fighters not entering? I forgot all about that. It's been a while since I read DB, and it was in Norwegian, so it might've been left out.

Off the top of my head:

King Chappa, Pamput, Nam, Man-Wolf and Giran. All of these guys were strong warriors that King Piccolo had killed, it's a no brainer they wouldn't enter the tournaments anymore making it easy for someone like Mr. Satan to come along and win repeatedly.
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>>102160607
>King Chappa
I always thought him and Mr Satan should have been the same person. Totally missed out not doing that.
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>>102157494

I said average person. Each of those people is special. The average fuck sitting at home watching the tournaments on TV in their capsule homes are the people i'm referring to.
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>>102159386
>One victory would still not be enough to bribe others out. Why would you give up the spot as the victor for the same amount of money you'd win, except you wouldn't be recognized for it?

Reading your post suggests you never read Dragon Ball. You should do yourself a favor and do just that. Mr. Satan is a world champion solely because every single decent fighter in world stopped entering the tournaments after the 23rd tournament, with Piccolo Jr., due to world finding out that Piccolo Jr. was the son of King Piccolo who had previously sent his 'children' to search the world for strong fighters, after the 22nd tournament, and systematically murdered nearly all of them.

The only tournament that takes place after Goku and his friends stop entering is the 24th tournament, a few years before the Cell Games; it's during this tournament that Mr. Satan, a newcomer at the time, becomes world champion. He's only won a single world championship. The next time he fights is during the Cell Games.

>>102160949
>I said average person. Each of those people is special. The average fuck sitting at home watching the tournaments on TV in their capsule homes are the people i'm referring to.

Puar and Oolong are consider 'average people' in Dragon World. Their shape-shifting school is no different than a trade school in the real world.
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>>102161198
He wouldn't be so famous for winning only one tournament
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>>102151663
>So like, a tiny, tiny fraction of American culture.

more like half the kids who had cable from 1997-2005
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>>102159386
>and it was in Norwegian
The Schibsted translation of Dragonball barely qualifies as norwegian. It had swedish speech bubbles at least once per volume, speech bubbles left blank, awkward and unnatural language and in the Z books with colours there were pages left in german ever so often.
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>>102161333
>He wouldn't be so famous for winning only one tournament

He's world famous because he's constantly promoting himself as champion and brain-washing the masses into believing that anything other than his bullshit feats are amazing and anything approaching using actual skill and technique, much less ki, is 'tricks'.

And yes. He's only won the 24th World Martial Arts tournament it takes place before Cell; we know this because it's the tournament Mr. Satan beat Spopovich in, originally.
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>>102161333
>He wouldn't be so famous for winning only one tournament

Because he had enough money to bribe anyone who complained. Is it that hard to believe a guy who stole the credit for defeating Cell wouldn't be full of shit?
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I know people love to bring up Yamcha's win streak, but Piccolo, despite being so powerful and well-respected, hasn't much of a streak either.

Raditz- Outclassed, only killed him because Goku held him down.
Saibaman- Won, but so did Yamcha. He just got caught off-guard because he didn't know it would self-destruct.
Nappa- Completely outclassed.
Freiza- Strong enough to hold off his second form. Outclassed after that.
Gero- Overpowers but he got away..
Imperfect Cell- About the same, Cell got away.
17- About the same. Had to stop Cell.
Semi-perfect Cell- Outclassed.
Cell Jr.- Outclassed.
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>>102155892
I always liked how he was named after Satan for being a petty liar.
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>>102145435
THE STRONGEST HUMAN
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>>102162061
I believe it had a lot to do with both how he dropped out of fighting and how humiliating his defeat against the Saibaman was.

Piccolo rarely ever won against anyone, but he could put up a fight.
Yamcha might as well not go.
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>>102144902

At that age and level Yamcha was much weaker than Satan there.

Sure, Satan is really weak to the Z fighters but you all seem to forget that he is actually a World Champion and that he has actually won when there aren't any robots or aliens participating in the world tournaments.

He's far stronger than a normal human and I'd say he'd likely defeat characters that are considered Peak Human.

>Satan an actual World Champion
>Yamcha some guy who only dated Bulma for a while then got murdered by her future husband
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>>102162507
>Sure, Satan is really weak to the Z fighters but you all seem to forget that he is actually a World Champion and that he has actually won when there aren't any robots or aliens participating in the world tournaments.

We've been over this shit already. See, >>102161198

Mr. Satan doesn't stand a chance.
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Goku has a powerlevel of 10 in the beginning of the series and he is stronger than desert Yamcha.
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Who can Videl take out in the pre-Z era of Dragon Ball?

Kinda stupid that she didn't learn any ki attacks or that Gohan was a lousy teacher.
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>>102148791
Wolf Fang Hurricane Fist. Dub translated it as just "Wolf Fang Fist."
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>>102144902
Yamcha. He did learn some martial arts from master roshi and knows how to use the kamehameha,ki and flight as well.



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