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Are the shinigami people in Bleach dead humans, regular humans, or some other kind of humans?
And how do you become one?
Can one die of old age?
Can you quit that job even?
I've never read or watched Bleach but I was just wondering this.
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Sage for Narutu Sand Ninjas
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nobody dies in bleach

also sage
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who's the furry?
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Shinigami are people who passed onto Soul Society, but happened to have the potential to become a Shinigami. It's also possible for Shinigamis to populate in Soul Society as humans do.
You just either have the potential or don't while being a plus spirit.
It's up to you if you wan't to join the 13 squads or not.
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how about asking on gaia or animuski
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Why haven't they annihilated the Quincys? They're an incredibly horrible and illogical faction, why do they allow them to exist?
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>>10214047

so that zaraki character was actually a "good" spirit?
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>>10214089

They eliminated all but three of them... and then Mayuri got both of the remaining active ones.

Also, the Quincy are cool, and dead sexy, so shut your face.
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>>10214089
The only remaining Quincy are Ishida, and his father. I'd say that's pretty much extinct sans 2 survivors.
>>10214098
Plus is a term that refers to a spirit of a person who has died, and was sent to Soul Society. It doesn't dictate the person's goodness or evil. He wouldn't have been able to go to Soul Society if he was a Hollow.
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>>10214098

No, he's chaotic neutral. All Soul Society really cares about in its hiring interviews is your powerlevel. Hence why Mayuri the fucking nazi scientist is one of their guys.
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>>10214113
From what I have understood, all spirits killed by the Shinigami are "re-educated" and thus turn into normal spirits, but if killed by the Quincy they're lost forever? Am I missing something? If not, then why would anyone want to be a Quincy?
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>I've never read or watched Bleach but I was just >wondering this.

ITT: TROLLS.
Also, in b4 5000 replies.
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>>10214128
>>10214136

okay, but what is the purpose of the soul society then?
you sort of get channeled there by the shinigami and then what? get a job cleaning their houses?
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>>10214177
Hint: Shonen plot/world. Do not try to explain. Yo u cannot.
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>>10214146

Because you can be a Quincy and still be alive. Also your powers are cooler, you don't have to use swords, and don't have to work under a giant fucking bureaucracy.

Besides, do you really WANT to save the souls of a bunch of mexicans?
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>>10214181
How are Quincy powers cooler?
Also...Quincy's remind me too much of faggot ass christian crusaders.
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HAY I HERD U CUD BECOME SHINIGAMI BY STICKING A CHAIN THREW UR CHEST
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>>10214181
Well, it seems kinda harsh to kill them permanently if you can just save them with a 100% certainty. I believe they had a comparison between the death sentance in real life, but that's just bullshit. If people could be re-educated just be beating them up, there sure as heck wouldn't be any death sentance.
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I had gotten the impression that shit was on a reincarnation cycle, people in the soul society aged and died, but very slowly
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>>10214234
lol rly? i herd u culd also get sand powa's if u burry urself in sum sand.
brb im gonna chain myself and take a dip in sum sand. lol can't wait to go SSJ-Shinigami-Sandmasta90000
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>>10214226
HEY GUYS, POINT AND LAUGH AT THE 15 YEAR OLD "ATHEIST".
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less useless talk, more naked yuroichi raping soifon... and taking photos of it!

*fap* *fap* *fap* *fap* *fap* *fap* *fap* *fap* *fap*
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>>10214250

I'd kill them anyway because they deserved it.
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>>10214226
THATS exactly what they are. They don't believe a tainted soul, whether bad from the start or turned should be purified if it did not choose so before death. If by some reason you could not wish for this then it was God's will from the start so "Hold still." PEW PEW!
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>>10214326
Sir, are you saying that you believe in an Invisible Sky Magician on the internet?
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This thread's pathetic level is OVER 9000!
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>>10214351

Oh no, I'm simply laughing at captain rebel over there.
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>>10214385
lolwut? yeah hating christian imagery makes me a rebel alright...
gb2 church.
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>>10214343
Insane. What a bastard. Then again, you're a troll so why am I even writing this, I fell unto your trap. 6/10
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>>10214226
Quincys would have been cool if they were crusaders, like medieval crusaders.

Running around in armor cutting shit for no reason.

But we have some sort of homos with cross insignias.
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NO
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dear gods, whats next, discussion on the Bleach movie?
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>>10214439
Excellent idea!
Anything to piss off the sagefags.

ITT: Bleach Movie. So did Hitsugaya own or what?
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>>10214234
Spend 21 hours down a hole.
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>>10214460
which one? that sealed sword frenzy, that one with the weird "lol plot loophole" nobody remembers ending? or the newest one?
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>>10214481
New one with Gohan Taicho.
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what happens if a shinigami disobeys his superiors?
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>>10214519

I saw a futa doujin of this once.
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>>10214519
probably executed
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shit sux
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>>10214554
NOBODY DIES.
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>>10214481
I'm gonna assume he means this one.
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So if heaven is feudal japan and purgatory is Mexico...

What will Hell be?
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>>10214496
Gohan? Who the fuck is Gohan?

And the Vizards need their own movie.
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>>10214519
Mayuri blows him up.
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>>10214573

africa
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>>10214573
Niger
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>>10214573
Germany or Korea...
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Why do all the male characters, apart from the main guy, look and dress like attention seeking faggots in Bleach?
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>>10214018
That's Komamura.
He's a captain.
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>>10214567
>NOBODY DIES

Until you get some kid that gets the bright idea to plunge a Katana into his heart so he can gain Shinigami powers.
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>>10214573
they are all wrong, it's Namek of course
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I thought that any "evil" soul went to hell. That is if the person was evil in life they were sent to hell. If they were good in life but became a hollow in death the hollow was killed/purified and then sent to the soul society?
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>>10214628

from our perspective, he got them
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>>10214608
Bleach - Fashan Mango.

>>10214636
You suck, Professor Kaien.
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>>10214608

You mean their street clothes? Those are actually pretty cool.
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>>10214642
I thought they'd go to Soul Society regardless. Then again, I've only read 80 chapters of it.
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>>10214677
Really evil people go to hell, according to, like, chapter 12. We only saw hell once though, so whatever.
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so who was/is the Hollow King that was mentioned early in the show?
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>>10214677

Well, they do have that huge skeletal gate that opens up into a world of pure crimson when they destroy particularly evil hollows.
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>>10214727
That would be Aizen.
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>>10214752
it was before Aizen
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>>10214748
wait, didn't they do that during the filler arc using the white wannabe Chad with teleport powers and the illusion loli? make a giant crimson skeletal gateway thingy appear?

Also, maybe it's one of those Vasto Lorde guys being king of Huevos Ranchero
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>>10214791

And? We also had arrancar before Aizen. Kubo foreshadowed the fuck out of the post-SS stuff. (Hence why lots of people think Hell will be the site of a future arc.)
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>>10214690
No, only Hollows who commit their sins consciously (like the one that got sent to hell) get sent to hell. Normal Hollows that are mindless in their attacks can be cleansed and sent to Soul Society. Hollows who gain consciousness and use their powers for evil are impossible to cleanse by Zanpakutou, and are thus sent to hell.
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>>10214690
>>10214748
Oh. I guess the Soul Society people are only a small improvement from the Quincys.
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>>10214839

What about that fucked up bastard scientist Shinigami? He seemed pretty damn evil and fucked up to me, if anyone should be in hell he should.
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>>10214089
They didn't.
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>>10214914
Again, it's been explained before. Either he was a Plus Spirit, or a Hollow that didn't commit sins consciously.

OR he was born into Soul Society by fellow Plus Spirits, or Shinigami.
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YHBT
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>>10214835
would make sense if aizen is the hollow king and only looks like a shinigami due to his shikai.
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>>10214914
Well, he dodged it.
This series apparently believes in "karma" so he'll get his on the next round through the cycle, maybe.
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fuck you /a/.
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>>10214925
also would make sense why he transformed orihimes brother into a hollow
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>>10214914
He did shit AFTER he was dead, thus "dodging" hell.
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>>10214952
You don't get another "round" in the cycle. If you die a Shinigami, you're dead forever; You become spirit particles.
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>>10214925
also would make perfect sense why he transformed orihimes brother into a hollow now.
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Anyone got any MORE questions about Bleach plot holes? I'll gladly answer them as best I can.
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i like bleach but naruto is def my fav.
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>>10214970
You become spirit particles if you die as a ghost the same way you become dirt when you die in real life. You still get reborn as a new person on earth, but unlike in SS, you won't know who you previously were.
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>>10215003
When Arrancars die, where do they go?
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>>10214146
If killed by a quincy you go to Hueco Mundo? interesting.
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>>10215019
Fuck if we know. Maybe all their different constituent souls separate and go to SS?
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>>10215019
I can't give an official answer, but from all of the Arrancars who have died, none of them re-entered the cycle, and none of them went to Hell. So I'd assume they too become spirit particles when they die.
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LOL GUYS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN A QUINCY DIES IN SOUL SOCIETY
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>>10215029
If killed by a Quincy, you cease to exist.
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>>10215029
No, if killed by a Quincy you die permanently because they destroy your soul. You go to Hueco Mundo if you're a hollow and have a large enough brain to stay away from the living world where all the shinigami and quincy are.
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>>10215049
If you're talking about when Ishida entered Soul Society through the gate Urahara made, the conclusion is he'd become spirit particles, too. He's taken on the form of a spirit, so all rules should apply to him. He wouldn't re-enter the cycle.

I don't know about Hueco Mundo though, because Urahara never mentioned spirit body conversion devices, nor any word of HM rejecting humans.
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>>10215035 none of them re-entered the cycle

We don't know that, actually. It's possible they're purified, which ALSO turns you into spirit particles.
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>>10215090
Nah, did you see them glowing blue and scattering off into the atmosphere? Neither did I. They die the same way Shinigami do. I'm gonna assume here that any spiritual entity that obtains a human-like body dies, and never re-enters the cycle.
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>>10215049

They become a plus.

Also, the whole "lol shinigami don't re-enter the cycle" thing is a load of bull based on people taking Kaien over-literally, and it contradicts previous statements on the matter.
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>>10214573
america
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>>10215055
'cept hollows kill + eat each other.
It's not just that "GLUTTONERIA!!" guy -- he also gains eaten hollows' specific powers when he eats people -- but all hollows will cannibalize.
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>>10215113
Previous statements? Show them please.
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>>10214519

Sokyoku.
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>>10215127
Not all of them. Just the particularly malicious ones and those who've stayed in HM long enough that they're starving.
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>>10215127
you mean Aaroriurunieru arruriruie?
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>>10215134
Kenpachi: "even if we die, we'll just change a bit, and then we can fight again".

Shinigami reincarnate. QED.
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People die -> Go to one of the poor districts or whatever -> Get into soul society if you have spirit energy and graduate from the academy
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>>10215168
No I mean Hollow Kaien.
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>>10215156
OM NOM NOM
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>>10215188
They censored that part? FUCK.
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>>10215188
GO AWAY FAGGOT MONSTER
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>>10215208
Fuck you, that's CT Smith.
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>>10215205
they didnt censor shit it looks like
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>>10215188

look at his head/neck

QUALITY
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>>10214727
Hollow King kills Aizen, final villain, plot twist.
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>>10215245
He actually eats the guy's head off rather than converting him into a ball of energy and eating that.
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Hmm, the movie did also have details. The souls of lost memories or something like that.
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>>10215257
QUALITY
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>>10215245
Look again, moron.

Anime image: OH NOES A PURPLE BALL.
Manga image: GOOD GOD HE'S EATING MY HEAD.
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>>10215277
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>>10215257
Apollo is one impossible motherfucker.
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I think Bleach is a pretty cool guy, eh kills hollows and doesn't afraid of anything
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>>10215295
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>>10215174
I think he might have just been saying that, you know, for the mood of a fight, instead of actually stating fact.
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lol, all the tripfags post anon in Bleach threads in order to hide their shame
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>>10215324
Everything else he said was canon. Even the "ha, my sword doesn't have a seal" bit, that we all thought was just mouthing off, was confirmed in the databooks as meaning he's in permanent shikai.

Besides, wasn't Kaien's speech even more motivational/moodsetting in nature than Kenpachi's?
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>>10215321
I was gay for that motherfucker the moment I saw him, and it just keeps getting gayer
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>>10215168
>>10215186
...dude, shut up...
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>>10215174
Kenpachi knows shit. he doesn't even know the name of his sword hurr hurr
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How come you have young people like lolis (Yachiru) and really old people like the head captain? Do people age in SS? Will they eventually die?
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>>10215352
His hair are pretty too.
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>>10215366

And Kaien thinks he pumps blood with his palm.
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>>10215389
Yeah, Soul Society is made up of dead souls.
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Sage for fucking Bleach.
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>>10215389
They age, but VERY FUCKING SLOWLY. So their visible age is a reflection of their age at death + their age in SS divided by a couple hundred.

>>10215392
I'd his hair.
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>>10214914
Remember the japanese (and Bleach) in general use pseudo-buddhist morals. They don't believe in evil as we, pseudo-cristians do. The "sin" of a spirit which turns into a hollow is not being able to control they desires, as in Orihime's brother's case, he just wanted to keep seeing her live in the human world.
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>>10215389
Well Rukia had flashbacks in SS, and she looked a lot younger. So yes, people do age in SS, but I guess its a much more prolonged (as well as the visual effect being prolonged) process.
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>>10215295
oh lawd
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Kenpachi says shinigami reincarnate, Kaien says that when they die they become spirit particles and their friends breath them in and shit. But those don't actually contradict each other in any way. Their spirit body dissolves, sure, but they can still go and be reborn.
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I like Bleach, but this is /a/

Sage.
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>>10215427
What's the equation for determining SS age based on appearance?

>>10215434
Well yeah, but you also have the Kenpachi flashbacks and Yachiru's always been a loli.
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>>10215509

Kenpachi's a new captain. Possibly so much so that he's newer to the gotei than Rukia.
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>>10215518
...and Bleach is both and anime and a manga, so...
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>>10215509
Oh right, I for some reason think there's something like where you reach the peak of your power, you stop aging. Or it goes SO slowly you hardly age at all.

-OR- Spirits only age when they haven't become Shinigami.

Lol this really is a plot hole this one.
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Talk about Bleach on GameFAQs

Not here
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>>10215531
>...and Bleach is both and anime and a manga, so...

GAIAFAGS GTFO
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>>10215546
"Only age if you choose to"-type thing?
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>>10215592
ITT: tripfags pretend they have the authority to demand anything.
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>>10215509
Yamamoto spent more than 3000 years in SS. Rukia 150.
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Shounen censors too much.

Even slicing a demon in half in D Gray Man is censored. And that's ALL ABOUT slicing demons in half.
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>>10215501
maybe they reincarnate if killed by a zanpakto and turn into particles when killed by illness
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>>10215631 killed by illness

Ukitake has had TB since the founding of the fricking shinigami academy. He's not dying.
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>>10215672
yes, i mean him. maybe illness is slow in SS
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This thread is annoying to even look at
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>>10215690
More like their magical medical technology can keep him alive indefinitely.

...But not heal him. Seriously, what the fuck? I mean, he has access to everything the Gotei's got, and Orihime was even with his division for a while. WHY HAVE THEY NOT FIXED HIS LUNGS?
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>>10215745
Coughing up blood is moe.
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I think Captain AIDS is cute.
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sage for inuyasha... or is this bleach? Certainly in any case it is the same fanbase. SAGE SAGE SAGE
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>>10215745
ZOMG GOKU HAS LIKE UNLIMITED SENZU BEANS SO HE CAN KICK SUPERMAN'S ASS
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I think >>10215802 is gay.
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>>10215802
Elevens think so too, seeing how there are tons of his fanart.
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Inuyasha is still popping up on /a/? What the hell?
Sage
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>>10215815
Actually, it's more that he's an important political and military asset, so why don't they fix his fucking lungs?
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>>10215845
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>>10215802
I hope you get AIDS for gaying up /a/ with this Inuyasha shit.
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>>10215882

You know, when I made >>10215792, I was supposed to be JOKING...
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>>10215822
>>10215864
>>10215892
You aren't fooling anyone, inuyasha fan.
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In during typical sageing of a shitty filler-laden formula shonen.
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>>10215882
They remind me of Wilson and House.
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>>10215939 filler-laden

Jesus fuck, you watch the ANIME?
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>>10215958
I am kind of looking forward the new fillers, delicious androgynous vice-captain.
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>>10215958
777 tools of hell, demonic facepalm spawn!
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>>10215982
that deserves a facepalm itself. Stop making Neuro look worse.
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>>10215977
what episode is dis?
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>>10216063
162 or 163. After the credits.
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>>10215389
Yes, they will all die after thousands of years. Everybody dies in Bleach.
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>>10216063
164. omake
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>>10216198
Correction, episode 163.
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sage
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>>10215745
or, you know, could all be an act to make himself be perceived as less of a threat, and let him get more friendly with his juniors or something. he was pretty friendly with rukia for an unseated member
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sage. Am I cool yet, guys?
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the moe theory is algo good.
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Part of the confusion about shinigami reincarnating is that is was explained in the manga, but omitted from the anime for some reason.

http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/46/03/

That page and the next explain it. I'm not sure how accurate the translation is, but what basically happens is that you are born as a living human in the real world. Once you die you become a plus. As a plus you either go on to Soul Society, Hell or become a Hollow. When a Hollow kills another Hollow, it consumes it and absorbs it's soul, increasing it's own strength. When a Hollow is destroyed by a shinigami it is purified and becomes a plus, and moves on to Soul Society. When a spirit in Soul Society dies, it's body disintegrates, becomes the spirit particles that make up the Soul Society and then the person if reborn in the living world as a new person. This does make sense, we already know that a soul has it's own constituent parts (such as the soul sleep, the soul equivalent of a heart and the seat of all spiritual power)

Apparently people can be "born" in the SS as well. I'm guessing that these are either the results of stillborn births in the real world, the fate of souls which are condemned to hell or the result of some still unmentioned other factor.
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>>10216748
Or, you know...people in Soul Society have sex.
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>>10216854

I know where the meat comes from. I'm just wondering where the conciousness comes from.
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>>10216897
Consciousness develops with the meat.
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>>10216989

I guess since the human population is always increasing, and the two realms have to be in balance new consciousnesses have to come from SOMEWHERE. Who knew it would be in an alternate dimension from the "real" world?

Do we know of any characters who were definitely born this way?
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>>10216989

they're made out of meat?



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