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New A-1 + TROYCA TV anime "Aldnoah Zero" directed by Aoki Ei & written by Urobuchi Gen
http://aldnoahzero.com
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>>102134402
Incoming masterpiece
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>>102134402
Oh more Mecha.
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>>102134402
Oh interesting
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>Chamber clone
>A-1

Production issues incoming
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Oh boy, time for another year of urobuchi bandwagoning.
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>mecha
>by A-1

This is going to be shit. A-1 won't do 2D mecha and their CGI is horrible.
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>>102134402
Come on, we need a Blassreiter remake.
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Hopefully Aoki Ei has access to enough competent CG staff to make the mecha look all right
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Looks like Ishiwata Makoto's mech design.
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It's been a while since we had an Urobuchi masterpiece.

Though I did assume Aoki Ei would focus on his own Troyca studio from now on? Basically Fate/Zero team but with A-1 production values hmm.
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>More mecha
But
>A-1

Confused feelings
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>>102134695
>A-1
It's going to be 2D.
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>>102134719
What do you mean? There's one right airing now
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>>102134719
As this is their first production, getting help from A-1 makes sense.
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>>102134751
>A-1
>2D
Nope. Only Bones is still doing it - And Sunrise from time to time.
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CG mech
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/convention/2013/anime-expo/21
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>>102134782
Oh, I'm aware but I don't think most of /a/ is interested in anything but anime. Plebs
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>>102134741
They made Gyrozetter and it was fucking amazing.
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>>102134718
I thought the same thing, and I really hope it will get confirmed as mecha designer, since he and Urobutcher are working together frequently.
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>CG

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uICQLOlDFZY
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Isn't Gyrozetter literally the only other mecha anime A-1 has done?
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Aldonah>Gundam

Screencap this.
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>>102134826
>Ueda: Thank you. 3D needs to be prominent but the most important thing is a good story and plot. I hope we'll be able to show our new original robot animation as soon as possible. Please look forward to it.

Confirmed for 3D.
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I hope no one falls for this after the Gargantia fiasco and the disappointment of PP.
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>>102134902
Yeah, mainly because they can't get anyone who does CG right.
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>>102134931
>3D needs to be prominent
No.
No it fucking doesn't.
Fuck you, Japan.
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>>102134959
Don't worry.
We still have Sunrise.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7GXP8Gv7fI
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>>102134931
>good story and plot
>Urobuchi

>3D needs to be prominent
Confirmed utter failure.
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>>102134959
I don't see anything wrong with 3D. I do see a problem with shitty 3D.

Anyways current anime 3D looks at least twice as good as 5 years ago.
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I guess this may confirm Aoki Ei won't be directing the new F/SN then
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>>102134988
It's entertaining and all, but all of the secret club jokes are flying over my head, seeing as I've only watched G Gundam and AGE.
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>>102135037
Slowpoke.
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>>102135037
Has been confirmed a while ago.
The director of the worst KnK episode is doing F/SN
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>>102135030
>good story and plot
>Urobuchi
Gaim is pretty good on the story and plot
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>>102135037
Fuck everything.
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>>102135043
You could at least watch the 0079 movies dude. They're a classic.
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Oh gee, another Urofaggot shitfest. Can't wait.
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>>102135068
Gaim is Kamen Rider though.
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>>102135030
>produced by Aniplex
It will probably sell fifty thousand copies
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I hope they get Orange to do the CG, at least.
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>>102134988
And BONES.
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>The girl is actually a monster
>The witches are actually magical girls
>Sybil is actually human brains
>The squids are actually humans
Man, I can't expect to see what his next plot twist will be!
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>>102134402
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>>102135113
Just like Galilei Donna right?
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>>102135128
I can't fucking wait for this show.

When does it start?
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>EI AOKI
>UROBUCHI
>MECHA

I CAN'T STOP CUMMING
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>Aniplex

It is going to be shit.
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>>102135149
INVES IS PEOPLE

>>102135156
Galilei Donna was completely screwed over in production. That's not exactly fair
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>>102135170
Next season - Which means April
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>>102135149
>the mechs are actually cg
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>>102135183
No. 6, Valvrave or Vivid didn't sell gorillions either.
Aniplex doesn't mean autosuccess.
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>>102135062
6 was great.
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>>102135200
Fuck yeah.

Also, general question, what's the consensus on Build Fighters? Worth watching?
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>>102135294
Hell yes, best Gundam show in a long time.
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>>102135294
If you are a gundam fan, absofuckinglutely.
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>>102135294
> Worth watching?

Hell fucking yes it is. Everyone was surprised at how good it actually is.
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>>102135294
>Worth watching?

Do you like Gundam?
Do you like decent action?
Do you like good girls?

Watch it if you can answer one of those questions with ''Yes''

Expected: Gundam AGE - More Beyblade Edition
Got: Great Gundam Commercial with heart
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>>102135294
It's the first good Sunrise original in over a decade. Of course it's worth watching
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>>102135200
Gotta watch Star Driver before then just because.
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>Written bu Urobochi Gen.

HERE WE GO, SUFFERING EVERYWHERE.
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>>102135116
I hope they do
Fuck 2D mecha
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I fucking like Urobuchi.
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>>102135706
It'd be nice, but how large is Orange? They're already doing Buddy Complex and the Akito OVAs.
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>>102135750
I don't have a clue, but they're also doing Witch Craft Work
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>>102135706
Orange is literally the only good CG studio though
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>>102135750
>They're already doing Buddy Complex
Oh, I guess that explains why the CG there is alright. Too bad the battle choreography doesn't hold a candle to Majestic Prince, though.
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>>102135983
I like Sanzigen's work too.
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>not liking A-1

Fuck off, people.
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I'm actually pretty hyped for this. Troyca getting on its feet already.
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>>102136960
No one said they didn't like A-1.
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>>102136960
A-1 isn't even a real studio.
It's just Aniplex hiring different people every time.
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So many new studios.
What a time to be alive.
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>Urobuchi
>Nitro+
>Ei Aoki
>TROYCA

OH SHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIT

>A-1 Pictures

Oh no.
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>>102137333
You do realize that all the A-1 addition adds is a budget. If anything that is a plus.
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>>102137421
A-1 budget can be either shit or great depending on how much Aniplex is willing to offer.
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>>102137421
They would get Aniplex funding even without it being a joint with A-1.

A-1 always has production issues. We're going to have some serious QUALITY.
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A-1 is literally the top tier studio of our generation.
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>>102135105
Yes and a show where he is pretty much the only writer (with the occasional co-writer).
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>>102137468
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>>102135262
>The mechs are actually rotoscoped
Butcher will reveal to us that Japan has created real militarized Mechs.
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>Let justice be done. Though the heavens fall.
Psycho Pass with mechas & suffering confirmed.
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>>102137465
Sekai Seifuku has no problems so far.
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>>102134402
Is this going to be yet another shit by Gen or will he try making something good?
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>>102134931
So did Arpeggio just opened the door?
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>>102139180
The MECHS are going to be CG.
So, no.
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>>102139254
We don't know that yet.
The whole series might be CG.
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I BET ALDNOAHS ARE MADE OF PEOPLE
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All of the prejudgment is really quite silly, hype or hate. You guys are just trying to make something out of nothing. At least wait for a PV.
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>>102134402
Too many incoming shitstorms this year.
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>>102140713
Like what?
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Gen is such a fucking whore holy shit

that guy writes fucking everything
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>>102134854
That was a kids show and it looked like shit
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>>102134782
Tokufag pls
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>>102137468
Then I feel sorry for this shit generation
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>>102135068
Not really
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I always refuse to watch or in anyway validate full-CG anime.
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>3D
Dropped.

Where the hell is anime going in the future? Are we also going to become like the west and have every done with full CGi, eventually? Did they not fucking learn from the Berserk movies?
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A-1 is fine.
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>>102137333
>Urobuchi
>Nitro+
>Ei Aoki
>TROYCA
Why are these considered good?
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>>102141223
>Tsuritama only mid
>Birdy only high
>SAO god
>vividred higher than shit tier
What a shitty list.
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>>102141115
Haven't YOU learn from Majestic Prince/Geass AKITO/ Valvrave ?

2D mecha a shit
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>>102141538
Nope, didn't watch any of those because 3DCG is a cancer that will kill the industry.
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>>102141538
While those 3 shows had good 3D. They still look worse than decent 2D mecha.
Akito looks like shit compared to the main series
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>>102141653
>didn't watch any of those

>>>/v/
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>>102141785
What the fuck are you smoking ?
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>>102141813
Why am I expected to watch trainwreck anime? From what I can gather, they would still be shit even if animated in 2D.
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>>102141943
How do you know it's a trainwreck if you haven't seen it? Trainwreck is one of the worst buzzwords. Up there with deconstruction and mary sue
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>>102140785
Dude has written like 6 original anime over the course of the past 10 years.
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It can't be as boring as GArgantia, at least.
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>3D
Dropped.
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>>102142177
Third party aggregate rating services and lurking /a/ are both helpful tools in forming an opinion about an anime that you haven't seen. No reason to waste time watching an anime if the estimated probability of enjoyment is less than 5%. Frankly, if you think those anime are not trainwrecks, you're in the minority from my experience.

I define a trainwreck anime as an anime that butchers its original premise with badly executed twists and plot holes in a half-assed attempt to create exciting scenarios. This eliminates the ability of the viewer to suspend disbelief. It is unfortunate that so many anime can be objectively described by this word but there is no reason to call it a buzzword just because you're part of a disagreeing minority.
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>>102142466
He wrote 3 original anime in the last ten years...
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>>102141223
>Vividred
>elder god

see >>102137612
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>>102142744
>forming an opinion about an anime that you haven't seen
Stopped reading. You can't be serious.
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>>102141785
>While those 3 shows had good 3D. They still look worse than decent 2D mecha.
>Akito looks like shit compared to the main series

Totally disagreed. I prefer 2D but this is just petty bashing.
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>>102141943
>Why am I expected to watch trainwreck anime? From what I can gather, they would still be shit even if animated in 2D.

The only one of those that even remotely qualifies as a trainwreck is Valvrave and that doesn't change the point that 3D can be done well enough.
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>>102142744
>Frankly, if you think those anime are not trainwrecks, you're in the minority from my experience.

It sounds more like you're pulling stuff out of your own behind.

>I define a trainwreck anime as an anime that butchers its original premise with badly executed twists and plot holes in a half-assed attempt to create exciting scenarios. This eliminates the ability of the viewer to suspend disbelief.

That's a rather subjective and arbitrary definition. Also, Samurai Flamenco. Watch that you fool.
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>>102135397

Such a lie. It's the best toy commercial at least, but other than that it's nothing special.
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>>102134402

So it's time for the next edgy bullshit from Urobuchi
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>wannabee Gundam killer

My side-colony dropped
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>Let justice be done. Though the heavens fall.

WE DIABLO NOW
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>>102143293
>It sounds more like you're pulling stuff out of your own behind.
Majestic Prince and VVV are both ranked below #1000.
AKITO is ranked significantly below the original CG.
I also incorporate the subjective opinions of /a/ into my opinions. You can review them in the archive.

>That's a rather subjective and arbitrary definition. Also, Samurai Flamenco. Watch that you fool.

If you have a more objective opinion then I am happy to hear it. The most simple definition I can come up for a trainwreck anime is one that can be compared to a train coming off the rails or crashing into another train. However, that is not very informative.

I've been following Samurai Flamenco since the start. At the most basic level, it is objectively a trainwreck. Looking a few levels deeper, it's a parody/homage/pastiche of multiple genres which tend to incorporate trainwreck elements. It is hard to say whether or not it is a trainwreck overall. At the very least, it is watchable because it goes against contemporary formulaic anime. Still, it's not getting more than a 6/10 from me due to its QUALITY, incoherent plot, and incredibly derivative basis that adds nothing to the genres that it examines.

>>102142974
I guess you watch every anime every season. Keep in mind that you aren't allowed to form opinions about episodes you haven't watched so you can't drop. If that is your idea of an enjoyable life, I applaud you for living your dream.
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>>102142744
This fucking guy
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>>102144416
>Majestic Prince and VVV are both ranked below #1000.
>AKITO is ranked significantly below the original CG.

So you were just talking out your ass.
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>>102144416
>Looking a few levels deeper, it's a parody/homage/pastiche of multiple genres
STOPPED READING
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>>102144416
>Majestic Prince and VVV are both ranked below #1000.
>AKITO is ranked significantly below the original CG.
Hold on. Are you implying what I think you're implying? MAL rankings? Really?

I won't be too hard on you but basically you can like things even when the majority doesn't like it. I've liked plenty of shows that /a/ doesn't like. And frankly /a/ has awful taste. Try out for yourself first.
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>>102144416
>MAL popularity rankings
Look at this faggot.
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They should at least let KyoAni make the CG sequences.
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>>102144416
Also CG:Akito is better than CG since it actually tries to handle its story with maturity. CG is rated higher because it has more entertainment value, true, but that doesn't make it better.
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>>102144416
>actually using MAL and anime rating websites
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>>102144798
>Also CG:Akito is better than CG since it actually tries to handle its story with maturity. CG is rated higher because it has more entertainment value, true, but that doesn't make it better.

That's a matter of opinion. It tries to be different and I happen to like both, but the changes come with both positives and negatives.

For instance, the characters haven't had much development so far and they're mostly rather gloomy folks. It's been going a little too slow on the setup for something so short, which can easily backfire depending on how 3 and 4 turn out.
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>>102144719
I never implied that I couldn't like an anime that /a/ or other communities didn't like. I do allow their opinion to influence my decision on which anime to watch but I often ignore it if the premise or creators appeal to me. Recommendation engines based on third party aggregate ratings are particularly helpful.

If you have better quantitative metrics to predict anime enjoyment, I would appreciate it if you shared your knowledge.

Better yet, could one of you describe in full detail how you decide what anime to watch? I feel that I'm just getting shit on because I'm the only one here willing to say specifically how I do so. The algorithm that you employ should be able to obtain some assessment of enjoyment probability without viewing a single episode. Of course, that enjoyment probability may be modified as you begin watching episodes. I do not expect a fully quantitative algorithm; you are encouraged to integrate your own subjective opinions. I do expect that you maintain a life outside of anime so watching every anime is not a valid solution.

Lastly, I don't know why you people assume MAL. The community I use is foreign and low-key. /a/ doesn't know about it yet and I'm not inclined to let you guys pollute the ratings.
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>>102144416
>Majestic Prince and VVV are both ranked below #1000.

And so what?

>AKITO is ranked significantly below the original CG.

The episodes are rated separately, it's still ongoing and there's no use comparing ratings for a project that's not over yet. But even then, it wouldn't matter too much since that doesn't prove your point at all.

>I also incorporate the subjective opinions of /a/ into my opinions. You can review them in the archive.

More like you incorporate the selective opinions you agree with and olympically ignore the rest, while pretending to come across otherwise.

>I've been following Samurai Flamenco since the start. At the most basic level, it is objectively a trainwreck. Looking a few levels deeper, it's a parody/homage/pastiche of multiple genres which tend to incorporate trainwreck elements. It is hard to say whether or not it is a trainwreck overall. At the very least, it is watchable because it goes against contemporary formulaic anime. Still, it's not getting more than a 6/10 from me due to its QUALITY, incoherent plot, and incredibly derivative basis that adds nothing to the genres that it examines.

Considering it's in totally a different place from its original premise after lots of twists, it fits your definition. Not that I care for your argument, either way, since you're already proving your own double standards by even having this discussion.
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>>102144822
>not using MAL for its feature and staying as far as you can from its community
Please learn some moderation
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>>102145665

Here's the tip:

Cartoons do not require algorithms and you come across as both pretentious and trying too hard by attempting to reduce everything to a set of metrics that aren't even self-consistent.
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>>102145420
I'm actually a really big fan of S1 but wow did S2 shit all over the franchise.
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>>102145678

Sure, but you shouldn't let MAL comments, reviews or scores dictate your opinions. Like, any anime below #1000 is bad, really?
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>>102145765

I'd say that's a bit of an exaggeration. S2 was surely worse, mind you, but some people tend to overreact by being negative about everything in it. Which is why I don't quite share your position either.
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>>102145678
>not realizing that the scores on MAL are dictated by its community
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>actually thinking MAL ranks mean anything
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>>102146020

That's true.

Kara no Kyoukai shouldn't be that high.
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>>102146020
Any objective ranking would have LOGH below the top 100
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>>102146020

Ultimately there is no
test of literary merit except survival, which is itself an index to
majority opinion.

-George Orwell
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>>102145754
Actually, just about every action you make requires an algorithm. Your brain is a computer. If you don't realize that, you're wasting your cognitive potential.

Every time you decide on a new anime to watch, you employ an algorithm. If you're not trying to be efficient about it, you will end up wasting time watching anime that you don't enjoy. I prefer to waste my time watching anime I do enjoy.

By including subjective opinions into my algorithm, it is necessarily not self-consistent. Consistency is not the objective. The objective is maximizing the enjoyment that I get from the anime that I choose to watch. Essentially, I am trying to have fun. Do you hate fun? Given that anime quality is inherently subjective, I think that my decision to include subjective opinions is rational and maximizes my ability to have fun.

I give no shits if I come off as pretentious and trying too hard. You shouldn't either.
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>>102145847
>>102145847
I wasn't talking about the ratings, but you know, the anime list.
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>>102146288

The problem is that by following your previously described examples, you'd miss out on shows that are likely to be enjoyable
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>>102145847
If the premise doesn't appeal to you and it's ranked that low, why should you watch it? That's what he's arguing.
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>A-1
>Urobuchi
I can smell the shit from here and now
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>>102146366
100% accuracy is not possible not matter what method is employed. I find it acceptable to miss out on some shows if I can maximize the proportion of shows that I actually do enjoy.

Look up sensitivity/specificity. Similar ideas are used in medicine in order to interpret cancer test results with the objective of minimizing both false positives and false negatives. Mathematically however, both cannot be minimized at the same time.

Please give a specific example of a better method if you want to continue arguing.
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>The next stage of our development is to make something that would supersede Gundam.
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>>102146390

Because the ranking and rating systems aren't perfect
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>>102146840
top lel
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Fuck yeah more /m/ show from mechabutcher
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>>102149861
>Fuck yeah
>mechabutcher
I don't understand.



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