Game over, man. Game over.
Silver Spoon thread.
I like the manga better
Can't be, he's got hair.
Typical anon's dad never get the approval for watching chinese cartoons.
Who could say no to that face?
Well he's obviously not making her happy then.
His dad is actually not that bad. He is just EXTREMELY stern. He means well in what he does and has valid points. Very respectful to those who give him the proper respect.
Best secondary after fromage.
Oh, oh my.
By jove, I say good show.
i want her to tower me like this
>read about how crushing this episode was
>ends extremely happy
I dont get it. The entire point of the episode was for hachiken to realize that his dad doesnt know what the fuck he's talking about, and that he made the right choice by coming to ezonoo.
FULL ED WHEN?
>One son quits college and becomes a drifter
>Other son goes to an agricultural highschool because he can't handle the pressure
Gee dude I wonder if you might be fucking up.
19th of Febuary.
Except his Dad knows exactly what he's talking about.
This episode was really good.
>his dad doesnt know what the fuck he's talking about
He never once made an invalid point. Please try to find a flaw in his argument.
Plus, the last episode already ended with 8ken fainting, why should there be another dramatic ending?
Jesus Christ, Hachiken was pissing me off this episode. How can one man be such a spineless fucking faggot? Why is he constantly seeking his father's approval, yet he treats his mom like shit? I was so fucking happy when that senpai literally kicked his ass.
His mom is a piece of shit, lying just to make her son feel better is a dick thing to do.
You people are my favorite.
It's like you retards dont understand what a coming of age story is.
BAWW WHY WAS RENTON A BETA FUCK AT THE BEGINNING OF e7??
Oh dear god, those ZRs.
Because his mother is the opposite, TOO approving.
Because his mother is a lying piece of shit and his father is a respectable member of society?
I never understood why people seek approval from others.
Except that we're midway through the second season and I thought he had already manned up a bit, but nope, he basically just undid all the development he had made up til that point. Almost wanna drop it at this point. I'm really only watching for Baseball-kun and agriculture reality.
Too much fanservice in this season.
If you weren't legitimately terrified of your father for most of your childhood he was not doing a good job raising you.
Because it's the perception of others that determines your worth.
This will never change.
That's the whole reason why she lost weight.
They wanted some fansevice in the festival.
>lying piece of shit
She was just doing what she thought was best for the situation, and it happened to turn out badly. It certainly didn't warrant him being stone-cold and blowing her off.
It did, because the one time he thought he did something that made his father approve, it was all just a lie. He was happy a shit when he got the text saying he liked it and it wasn't even true.
He's not as cold to her later on though, it was just that instance when he was especially mad.
He does have a sense of pride, he is a (grown) man after all.
>It certainly didn't warrant him being stone-cold and blowing her off.
Have you never done something like this yourself and just gotten pissed all of a sudden? There's some real moments I regret being a dick to my mother as a teen.
That guy was surprisingly skilled.
People here are dumb, m8
What if you don't care about your worth? People should do things because they want to do them not because they want to impress others.
I can see your point, but I still think getting out of the taxi was too extreme. If you're fresh out of the hospital, you should probably not be turning down assistance, even if you are pissed at the person.
>What if you don't care about your worth?
I'm not being edgy or anything, but if you're gonna say that you don't care about you're worth, then you're no different from someone who wants to kill himself because they think they're worthless.
I do what I want to do and don't care about what people think, that's how people should live. I'd rather be dead than only do things because it looks good, that sounds like a really shitty life to me.
Hachiken will become a hikkikomori
That's funny, I have a very similar attitude, but I also have suicidal thoughts all time (too much of a pussy to do it though).
Basically like most "villain dads" out there.
So you're saying that if you do what you want to do because you genuinely want to do it you're suicidal?
How come Arakawa Dads are so buttblasted?
Because her father didn't want her to become a mangaka.
Because her dad was buttblasted.
>I do what I want to do and don't care about what people think, that's how people should live.
Well that's all fine and dandy, but from a completely objective perspective, you won't get very far in life.
I'm not saying people should just completely focus on what everyone thinks of them. It's just that, approval from others is the base of our society.
Friendships are formed about what you think of people and what they think of you.
Work is shown by the amount of effort you put compared to others.
Intelligence is shown by how much you know compared to others.
Athletics is shown by how much you can accomplish in comparison to the rest.
There's no getting around this. It's everywhere. And all of this breeds competition. By caring about what people think, you strive to be better. If you didn't care what people thought about you, why try harder?
is the only reason
I want to be get better at something because I like doing that thing. It's not worth throwing away your life just so you can please others.
Source for this?
Hachiken's dad is great. He seems 2stern4u, but he wants his sons to be good, reliable people. He sees that the older brother, even if he's smart, is a flake, and Hachiken is too beta to do anything with himself.
No, the two are unrelated. I have suicidal thoughts because I'm a fuck-up whose life is going nowhere.
Doesn't stop me from doing the things I enjoy.
How can you enjoy suicide if you can only do it once?
Hachiken's dad basically want the best for his kids. Best food, best education, best job. And to get that, he's pretty strict on them. The older brother is too much of a jack-ass for him to be of influence, but Hachiken is still in high school, and doesn't want him to waste his life. Hence insisting a lot on making an agriculture company, since as seen previously agriculture is hard to make a living in.
Think about what you just said and why it is a totally invalid objection
>Throwing your life away so please others.
When did I say that? I just said that to get farther in life you need the approval of others, but you can live without caring what people think. You won't be as successful as those who competed against other people for approval of deans/bosses/etc.
I misread it as "don't" instead of "doesn't".
The definition of a successful life is different for each person. I believe that my life is amazing simply because I can do what I want and not worry about what other people think. Unfortunately, some people just can't fathom not caring about other people's opinions. Living like that has to be pretty stressful.
To understand his father you will have to read the manga as the anime won't probably get to the recent chapters when it is explained.
It depends how much you think you're worth.
If you think you're worth a lot, you'll work for a life you think you deserve.
If you don't think you're worth much, you'll settle for much less.
Besides, it's not like you're constantly seeking approval you're entire life. Just until you've reached your goal.
I don't even think of myself as being worth something, that never crosses my mind. Why does it matter that you're worthless if you're doing what you love? People should stop letting other people tell them what they're worth.
Not everyone can just do what they love because they feel like it.
I can't just walk into a Uni and say I that because I love animals, I should be a vet because it's something I love.
I had to gain the approval of my teachers for recommendation letters. I had take tests that determined my worth compared to others. I had to gain the approval of the Board of Admissions of wherever I applied.
If we didn't have these tests for approval by others, we'd have shitty doctors running around, shitty lawyers, and even shittier law enforcement.
You're not worthless for doing something you love, but doing something you love is sometimes only for the worthy.
If I enjoyed helping animals and wanted be a vet I would go to medical school. I'm going because I want to not because it makes me look good. The end is the same but the motivation pushing me to get there is different.
I'm not saying I'm going to med school just because it makes me look good, rather I have to make myself look good to get into med school.
And there's only way to do that, which is to gain approval from others.
For reference, this is how intimidating his father was in the manga.
This is was the final page of chapter 53.
I can get good grades because I want to prove to myself that I can do it. If I became a vet I would obviously have approval from others, but I wouldn't acknowledge it because I became a vet for myself not for them.
And this is how intimidating his father was in the manga while fixing the toilet.
It doesn't matter whether you acknowledge it or not, the fact of the matter is you need it.
For anyone who wants to go into a highly competitive profession they need approval. It's just a fact of life. Whether you're doing it for yourself or others, you still need it, and that's not gonna change.
It sucks that certain professions require you to pretty much sell out. People really need to learn to not overly obsess over how people view them. I still think it's a pretty shitty way to live.
Also, upon re-reading, I realised they skipped his brother coming to the festival and the hospital and echangin words with his father.
But that's important. It shows that the brother is more than just an airhead flake, he's running away like Hachiken, but can't even be assed to stand up.
Fucking blows my mind how close to my own family situation 8ken's is.
It's not too rare a situation, at least with Asian families. My family goes the same way.
>It sucks that certain professions require you to pretty much sell out.
No, I'd rather want my doctors to go through rigorous training before I can trust them with my life.
And really, like you said, everyone has a different way of wanting to live their in life, and you're really in no right to say what is or isn't a shitty way to live.
I guess not. I also like to think I'm a little more manly than he is, despite being in the same position essentially.
Episode 5 made me start reading the manga. I think I enjoyed it more than the anime. Next 20 chapters can't come out soon enough.
What do you prefer them, to go through rigorous training, or to be able to convince you that they went through rigorous training?
Hachiken mans the fuck up in the manga. It's just that he's still kind of naive, and even if he's starting to take initiative with Mikage, she's too dense and he's still a bit too meek.
Yeah, he mans up allright. I'm genuinely interested in this whole business enterpriser thing.
What becomes of his brother?
You can life your life however you want, I really don't care. Just like everyone else here we're arguing to kill time.
He's still an idiot, but he gets a busty Russian wife who inspires him to be less of an idiot.
Can't tell which is which, all I can do is put faith in our medical institutions nationwide.
I kind of feel bad that we mildly de-railed the thread, but it's 4am, so I guess it doesn't mater much.
His seed is weak. Can't fault him for that.
Yep, sounds about right, heh.