is going to be shit.
Why do people continue to obsess over the Fate franchise to this day?
Is it Sakura's time to shine?
What happened here?
What the fuck happened to his body?
Cause it's good.
shirou...did you go punching your ideals again, it's really not helping
>ufotable promo art
Why is it always so bad
C'mon, give me a real answer.
Hopefully all 3.
Ufotables strength is animation not art. Ufotable shows are going to age poorly
I finally got around to reading this scene the other week. It was really cute.
Side effects from projection.
Sakura a shit.
Shirou why do you have two asses?
>Not skipping through every Sakura scene in F/HA
>not nasu 2014 designs
Because my waifu.
So how are they going to do the sex scenes this time.
Why would you want to do that? She's great in F/HA.
Because Sakura a shit.
Maybe they'll choose a separate animal for TOHSAKA'S ANUS, too.
I'd say probably a mix
More CG animals.
Sakura's will be an ever growing Bat.
Very attractive and exploitable concept.
I disagree and I think you're missing out on some pretty great stuff if you just ignore all her F/HA scenes, but to each his own.
I'm going to hope that Ufotable animates Porkslope Turkeyhandle after this.
I'm assuming you can't squat.
I'm assuming you don't know what a human looks like.
I wouldn't be surprised if they did, but it'll probably be based on the remake and won't happen until after that comes out in twenty years or so.
Sakura's just always been boring to me.
That's the neat thing about F/HA, even characters that seemed really boring before have some nice scenes. Or at least, that's how it was for me. I'm not saying you have to like Sakura, but I think it's worth giving her parts a chance. Hell, it's worth giving just about everybody a chance in F/HA.
Looking at my own hand at a certain angle, I don't really see the problem with it. He's also curling the sides up as if he is going to make a fist or a ball with his hand distorting it even further.
She isn't in the promo. Doesn't look like it.
Sakura is in another pic.
>That Touma pose
We even know the lenght?
What if they make a 3 cour show covering all the three routes?
Well then, I'm just waiting on the validation and installer here...
Nigga, each route would need 2 cour (though maybe you could do it all in 65 episodes or something).
It's blood sucking in the dream with Tohsaka and blood sucking with Sakura.
We literally know nothing except a vague hint at the plot.
They could also just go offscreen for some of the sex scenes.
Anything less than 24 episodes for a for every single route is a crime.
I look forward to hearing your thoughts about it once that's all done in ten years.
Which is what they should have done in Realta Nua honestly.
This would be the best.
Heaven's feel route and skipping the sex scenes, but hinting at them.
Anon, you know it will never happen.
Well, the manga went for the off-screen Saber's second Fate scene.
Not really, they already confirmed it's going to be a mix of the three routes with something that Nasu will add as original anime content.
I think that the back of his jacket is suppose to be whipping up and blowing around from wind or some force or something.
Like this drawing or something like it
No, they definitely have not confirmed that. The only part of your post that's even partially true is that Nasu has been giving them info about things that went on during F/SN that weren't in the VN and they're working some of that into the script, so it seems like there will be some anime original bits.
Of course that's what it is, we're just making fun of how weird it looks. At least I am.
It's the hand that really gets me. Look at that shit, it's like he has some horrifying, extra-long finger thumb.
I can see what they're going for with the hand, it's a bit of an odd angle. Could have been executed better.
Not just that, look at the positioning. Try to bend your arm back at an angle past your shoulder like that.
HEAVEN'S FEEL CONFIRMED
Ufotable animators think they can be Araki
Kariya was the only real hero in Fate/Zero.
I wish people would stop saying that. Next to nothing has been confirmed yet.
He was a mess
You mean the murderer/rapist/pedo? Ya, he's a great hero.
My dad works at Type-Moon and he told me it's going to be a 100 episode Tiger Dojo adaptation.
Is it bad that all I think about while at work is F/SN and the new adaptation and whatnot?
What's with her knee?
The next Madoka of the Evangelion of Anime.
My hand goes to the save button everytime I see this image but then I see that left knee...
Confirmed for not knowing shit about shit
Yes, because you're gonna be left thinking about it for quite a while.
Take this then
>still no tsukihime anime
The VN remake will be out in a few months, then Ufotable will be starting on the anime adaptation.
Maybe after the remake.
It'll never happen.
>Kirei with Assasin Bitch
But there was one.
We can dream, anon.
It could just be:
> Let's have sex!
> Black screen
> We just had sex!
Good job missing the entire point of the franchise.
If we're lucky we'll get Tiger Dojo BD specials.
>accepting surface messages
>not realizing the characters are all examples of heroism done wrongly
>not realizing that the story's purpose is to predict Shirou's true heroism
It's a sad day when Fate/Zero is 2deep4u.
>not realizing the characters are all examples of heroism done wrongly
I'm pretty sure there's nothing heroic about Ryuunosuke, though.
Add Kirei to that.
Also what was Tokiomi's goal anyway?
The number of failed heroes far eclipses the number of purely antagonistic psychopathic murderers.
Besides, Ryuunosuke provided what was close to a purely comedic role.
I don´t think Kirei, Tokiomi or Kayneth were too heroic either.
It´s about morals and shit, not everyone being examples of heroism.
To reach the root
To kill all the Servants, including his, and reach the Root...that is some magic thing in the Grail that would transform a magus into the Second Jesus or something like that.
>Urobuchi originally designed a plot line involving one of Assassin's personalities, a small girl called Child Assassin, joining with Waver and Rider in the second or third volume to lighten up the story.
>She was conceived as a unfortunate young girl lacking in conversational skills, memories, and the awareness that she was a part of Hassan-i-Sabbah
>Waver mistakes her presence there, believing her to be one of Ryuunosuke's victims suffering from memory loss, and while Rider knows of her identity, he honors Waver's chivalry to allow the Mackenzies to take in yet another false household member.
>After Kotomine, who knows of her existence, utilizes the Command Spell to attack those at the Einzbern Castle, she regains her memories as Hassan
>Through a dramatic farewell tragedy, Waver would climb another step on the path to becoming an adult.
Frankly I don't even care if this would have made Waver look more like a main character or if it would be too 'distracting', it would have been an really cool plot point. It would have also made Assassin not boring as fuck.
>It´s about morals and shit
I think it's about ideals and little egoistical whims if any.
An example of heroism from a Nasu Mage's perspective.
Kirei has pretty much always been inverse foil to Shirou.
God damn anon, you gotta warn a motherfucker before you post stuff that cute.
Sakura is lovely.
Is route confirmed yet?
You people are really overestimating the length of each route.
At the moment it's confirmed as a modified route of some kind so it won't specifically follow any of the VN routes but other than that they've been pretty vague.
Are there any more stories like this from F/Z's development?
What was Kayneth example of heroism? He jsut wanted to win the Grail War because it was a prestigious magus shit.
The most close he was to being heroic is when he formed Lancer to an hero.
A secret 4th where Illya is the MC.
>want suffering and destruction
I don't think so, also despite all the shit Nasu believes what's heroic about "reaching the route"?
Tokiomi's goal was to reach the Root, as his ancestors once wished to. He really doesn't have much ambition of his own, he just does as the Tohsaka name dictates.
He's basically the absolutely shitty version of Toikomi that shows how far Magus society really is from being respectable.
Magi don't consider reaching the Root "heroic".
>reaching the route
Holy fuck, Tokiomi was trying to unlock Illya´s route!
Reaching the Root makes you an absolute idol to basically any magus that has ever lived, you realize?
It's like a half-step away apotheosis.
That's the kind of thing Nasu's magi consider to be 'heroism.'
His body is made of swords.
Not that I disagree with you necessarily, but you really should know better than to bring up Kariya on /a/. You'll never get good discussion about him, just people parroting the same old misconceptions. Trust me, I've done this song and dance way too many times.
We are of the same mind, then, brother.
It's just that I have yet to cease enjoying it.
>just people parroting the same old misconceptions
That's like, most of Fate discussions since 2011
>most of /a/ discussions since always
Makes me happy to see other people that like him and cheer him on. Now that the anime's been over for a while and the dust has settled there's not nearly as much shitposting about his "ulterior motives" that don't even exist, but some persistent retards still like to try it. Oh well, they're the ones with no reading comprehension whatsoever, considering the text itself within the novel confirms that Kariya was fighting purely on Sakura's behalf.
Kariya had good intentions but bad motives. His heart wasn't in the right place. His goal wasn't so much to save Sakura as it was to get back at Tokiomi, the Matou's and the magi world in general as well as to live out his fantasy as her father/Aoi's husband. He was pretty selfish, all things considered. He did the right thing for the wrong reasons. At least Urobuchi let him die with a smile on his face, which is more than can be said for a lot of Urobuchi characters.
>there's not nearly as much shitposting about his "ulterior motives" that don't even exist, but some persistent retards still like to try it. Oh well, they're the ones with no reading comprehension whatsoever, considering the text itself within the novel confirms that Kariya was fighting purely on Sakura's behalf.
What is it about Kariyafags and failing to understand the character entirely?
Sakura is just altogether great in Hollow, since you get to see her good points even better now that she is free. Best part of that scene is Shirou busting out and Sakura doesn't just make shenanigans and deny hugging his jacket, she goes for the gusto.
She is a refreshing character, since she is so honest with her love. She feeds him crepes she they go shopping, and has her junior take couple shots with them using her cellphone. Not even getting to the part where she redevelops the archery club to where they can compete nationally. If only Nasu had let us see her training her magic some, it would have been perfect. All this, and she is the youngest of the cast.
>Kariya had good intentions but bad motives. His heart wasn't in the right place. His goal wasn't so much to save Sakura as it was to get back at Tokiomi, the Matou's and the magi world in general as well as to live out his fantasy as her father/Aoi's husband.
Except that's completely wrong; this is one of those misconceptions I'm talking about. Check the text.
>Such appropriate words of farewell for the occasion; though only a child, she picked them out with astounding accuracy. Kariya prayed in his heart as he watched Sakura’s spiritless, retreating figure—Please, let it not be too late. He no longer cared about things concerning himself. His life was already given to Aoi and Sakura. He was too late, but he had no regrets, save for the possibility that he could be dead before he even managed to get his hands on the Grail.
>The only thing worrying him was Sakura. If Kariya successfully obtained the Holy Grail and returned Sakura to her mother, could the girl, sealed tightly in despair, one day break that shell and once again join the outside world? The heartbreak Sakura had endured this year would undoubtedly stay with her for life, but he hoped they will heal with time. He hoped her heart had not been dealt a deadly blow by the torments she faced. He could only pray. The one who could heal the wounds of her heart was not he. He had far too little time left; he could not take up that job. That was a job for those whose future lives were guaranteed.
You have no idea what you're talking about. Kariya's story wasn't about the nature of selfishness vs selflessness, his story was about being chained to a twisted sense of responsibility when the one thing he needed to do more than anything else was stay alive and healthy to be Sakura's support system now that she had nobody else.
>He could only pray. The one who could heal the wounds of her heart was not he. He had far too little time left; he could not take up that job. That was a job for those whose future lives were guaranteed.
Your prayers were answered.
Good night, twisted and infected little prince.
What is it about anti-Kariya fags that they have to assert their own shitty readings of the text as some sort of incontrovertible proof that Kariya had evil motives or something?
He undergoes an enormous amount of suffering, unnecessary suffering if his only goal is revenge, in order to achieve even the slightest chance of a genuinely altruistic conclusion.
The fact that he gets to die happy and fulfilled, indicates that his viewpoint was nearing the 'right' one in Gen's moral system. The only people that get to die happily are those that realize and accept their own flaws.
Because she was made to be the paafecuto waifu character.
I think both sides fail to understand it, but that is common in this fanbase to not have a leveled objective character analysis.
He was jealous of Tokiomi, and let his hate burn within him, but his desire to save Sakura was real, and he regretted that she was made to face Zouken's cruelty because he left (for good reasons, that family was fucked with Zouken).
The bottom line is that he is a selfish person, but did indeed care about Aoi and her daughters, and it wasn't just about him trying to get milf pussy. In fact, he left partly to subvert a plan Zouken made to get Aoi's superbaby maker.
I seriously doubt it. UFOtables pre-release concept art has always been mediocre but both Kara no Kyoukai (several years since its release) and Fate/Zero are some of the prettiest anime out there to look at.
I mean, based on that definition of selfish, who could possibly not be selfish?
You'd have to be literally autistic like Shirou to avoid classification as a selfish person.
Alternatively, it could mean that people's demonization of the term 'selfish' is wholly unjustified, because it's impossible to have motives that aren't selfish.
All of his actions- literally all of them- are done with, at the very least, deliberate consideration for the well being of others that he cares for.
>are some of the prettiest anime out there to look at.
If you like high amounts of bloom and gloss covering up poor CGI, then sure.
Not really, in fact, Hollow was about her growing and finding herself. She loves Shirou, that much is true, but she has her own goals. Much of her scenes were her working and remaking the archery club, and she even skips a day of shopping with Shirou and tells him to go have fun with Rider while she works on club affairs.
The only ones that designate her as a waifu character or call her scenes boring are Sakura haters, who didn't really pay attention to the scenes in the first place.
I'm not an art or animation major by any means. I just know what looks good from the perspective of a layman from the general audience. If someone like me can't tell that something's "wrong" then it will probably age fairly well.
>go have fun with Rider
Shit, finish the translation already.
He definitely had no shortage of insecurity and jealousy surrounding Tokiomi, but people forget that Kariya doesn't think highly of himself. At all. He does not consider himself the more worthy or "rightful" candidate for Aoi's love. For example:
>Raise not your eyes, be not a bother. That was how he had lived. Anger, hatred—Having left it all behind in the desolate streets of his hometown Miyama, Kariya never made a fuss over anything. Even the foulest, ugliest matters were nothing compared to the things he hated in this land.
Kariya's main issue isn't even jealousy or insecurity, it's that he has so little self-worth that it results in an absolute lack of regard for his own life. That's why his death scene and Sakura's reaction are so significant; if he had chosen to live rather than pursuing the Grail, he might have been able to lessen the influence Zouken's brainwashing had on Sakura (which is also noted quite early on). Again, he really was all that she had left.
I want to ruffle Kotomine's hair.
Nah. One of the big things with the Fate series in general is that the definition of a hero is extremely subjective. This is why dicks like Gil and Assassin can be summoned as "heroes," which makes sense, anyways, because by the standards of our time, most Greek and ancient heroes are anti-heroic at best. I'd say that Kerry's a hero, btw. Ultimately, he probably saved far, far more people than he ever killed, possibly averting a zombie apocalypse with the plane mission alone. Kariya's heart was in the right place, but his intentions were vastly outstripped by his abilities. If he had been successful at rescuing Sakura, though, then there'd be no doubt in my mind that he'd be a hero.
>" My wife just died. I could go to therapy...or devote the following three years to some stupid magus conflict that some rich faggot and my idiotic father consider very important. Even more, I will kill thousands of people in the process...yeah, that will be fun."
I love Kirei...and not in an ironic way.
Its easy to downplay a character you don't like, plain and simple. She cooks well, must be generic waifu, right? Except she has several self-help books because she wasn't good at it and genuinely enjoyed learning more about it, which is why she is the most diverse cook of the Emiya party, she worked to get there. Was even humble enough to ask Rin to teach her Chinese, so she has Pastries, Western, Chinese, and Japanese under her belt now.
Additionaly, if I remember right, the beginning of her h-scene in H/A was her telling Shirou that she wanted to be a tree doctor, and was researching ways to cultivate plants as a career.
Well, that's kind of the point of his character.
He's someone who is literally incapable of feeling pleasure from good things.
How the fuck they had sex then? Did he just stood there with a plain face while his wife rided him...or did he insulted her while they were doing it to get turned on?
Why did he got married in the first place?
I need to read the fucking LN.
>Its easy to downplay a character you don't like, plain and simple
If you look at all the Saber hate on /a/, yeah...
*wife rode him
Need some sleep
Now that is a weird pose coming from shirou
I'm not sure who you're quoting, but it's definitely not Kotomine. He went into the war looking for a way to save himself, not to mass murder people.
Rin best girl
Sakura best slut
UBW best route.
Risei mentioned to Tokiomi that Kirei would do anything the Church willed. I'm sure you at least have some notion of why that is, but he wasn't serving Tokiomi just for fun, he was doing it because Risei had presented it as a Church matter. And, well, because he had Command Spells.
Also, his wife dying had left him with trauma that caused his mind to try and block her out. He struggles with this on multiple occasions. He wasn't ignoring her death or deeming it unimportant.
He went to the Grail War looking for something he could feel passionate about. Like he had been doing since always.
In the end, he found happiness by massmurdering people.
my fellow gentleman of the african-american persuasion
Are you... retarded?
Kotomine's character is made explicitly clear in everything but F/0 anime. He's used to be really good at faking normality, but after his wife died and he was tutored by Gil, he became the kind of person you see in the VN.
>He went to the Grail War looking for something he could feel passionate about. Like he had been doing since always.
Exactly. He was looking for something he could truly enjoy, something that would give his life meaning, a reason to keep living. He wasn't aware on any conscious level that he could only get that from suffering and whatnot. He did not enter the war thinking, "Aw man, I can't wait to kill loads of people."
Does it hurt having chronically bad opinions?
More like he had always been that kind of person, it´s just that he didn´t realized it.
He spent most of his life pretending to be a normal guy, then his wife died and he couldn´t do even that.
To make it worse, he knew Gilgamesh, who made him realize how twisted he was.
Unlimited Butt Works
>Kirei and COOOOOLURU
You'll be pleasantly surprised. Sakura isn't nearly as jealous as people make her out to be. Like >>102123597 said, she has other things on her mind besides Shirou. She just is now more honest with how she's feeling.
She has this adorable conversation with Shirou about having Rider wear cuter outfits, and they go on about how cute she is..right in front of her.
He does realise it, he just doesn't let himself because he acknowledges that what he enjoys is evil and strangely enough has a pretty decent sense of right and wrong. Of course throughout F/Z Gil convinces him that it's okay to do what he derives enjoyment from regardless.
Only in one route.
>UBW best route
I still wonder if UBWfags are just being intentionally autistic or whether or not they actually believe this. How someone can think the climax of F/SN that is HF is not the best route is beyond me. The final route is almost always the best route in VNs with enforced playing order.
HF has the best moments but UBW has plenty good moments and is more consistent in quality with Sakura. Rin is much more proactive love interest and had Lancer and Garcher
A lot of cooking, no Saber, who's one of the most popular Type-Moon characters period, a dislike of Sakura, an annoyance at what happened to Gil, and a dislike of Shirou giving up his ideals are all reason for disliking HF.
You seem to be implying that simply because Nasu put the route last, that would automatically make it better than the others. HF has pacing issues from my perspective that knock it out of first place. UBW is hardly flawless, but it stayed more consistent throughout the route.
>pretending to be a normal guy
More like he was trying to become a normal guy. "Pretending" or "faking" sounds dexter.
He could have raped her.
Also being so close to Illya yet so far....
But Shirou never gave up his ideals, if either UBW or Fate Shirou were put in the same situation they would have had to make some sort of compromise too. The whole point of that particular scene in HF was supposed to present a situation where Shirou's ideal is fucked either way.
Tsukihime is never getting an anime is it
There was a lot of Saber bring bros at the start, so the "no Saber" is false. There wasn't that much cooking, and those scenes are kept at a minimum or had important character development, if you don't like Sakura that is your business, and what happened to Gil is essentially the same thing that happened to him at the end of UBW, he just didn't escape so easily this time, as Grail had Sakura's spiritual affinity as a support.
As for Shirou giving up his ideals, it was made clear time and again that this was a tense situation, unlike the other routes, but if people dislike it without really understanding Shirou's situation, it can't be helped.
Shirou doesn't give up his ideals at all though.
He chose sakura over the many people she might kill, thats pretty far from the superhero ideal he was trying to pursue to copy kerry
What's with all the correct in this thread?
I think the word you are looking for rather than consistent is more linear. Not knocking UBW, but the plot was fairly linear, with the themes of the ideal more heavily featured and focused upon, which might be where you see it as more consistent.
Also, I see people talk about pacing issues with HF, but never see this explained, mind elaborating? It seemed pretty clear cut, with the only issue being having to absorb a lot of information at once.
>Rin playing video games
She's just playing what seems to be a console version of the VNs.
Even Tohsaka can press "Next".
I'm one of the people above who commented on not preferring HF, but I would argue that Shriou never has a clear idea of what his idea is or what it means to him. He knows there are risks involved in allowing Sakura to live, and even chooses to end her multiple times within the route. That said, I feel his choice in HF was more of a continuation of the conclusion he and Rin came to in UBW that the goal may be impossible, but the journey towards it is what's important. Killing Sakura is the easy way out. Trying to save her as well as others more closely matches his goal.
It got a good percentage of a wonderful anime. Let's not be greedy.
Shirou's ideal is different from Kerry's. At it's base form it's simply "saving people". UBW already shows that it's not actually possible in full, so he compromises and just does his best to save people at all.
Mind of Steel is actually the absolute betrayal of his ideals. Sacrificing people to save others is not acceptable under any circumstances, and I don't believe Shirou from any route would kill Sakura in HF. Saving the people in front of him, even if it was just one person (Sakura) is ultimately what he believes in. Hell, even Kiritsugu discovers this at the end of the 4th war when he saves Shirou.
Then why she's holding the controller with two hands?
And why she has her finfers on the triggers too?
more comfortable yo it feels more natural
I always figured that was a natural controller pose. She doesn't seem to be playing right now anyways, she's mugging for the camera.
The tsukihime anime can never happen because there is far too muche awesome to cover and any attempt will besmerch the name of such a good story. besides, there are too many characters to make an anime unless you were going to make a dbz length type deal
would you start it when arc is still on the moon
before or after roas deception
during nero or warrachia
maybe after most of the dead apostles are gone
how will they go into the mystic eyes let alone shit like cubic arcatraz and ort
That is the thing, it isn't that cut and dry. And people seem to forget that rather than copying Kerry, he wanted to go further than Kerry did, where he had to sacrifice no one.
So abandoning Sakura is as much anathema to that goal as just letting things go. Further, he did put his all into stopping the conflict, its not like he just sat at home and waited for the end, which is what HF detractors frame the situation as, which is the logical conclusion of a bad situation without clear information.
Neither of the artworks on the console cases matches up with the PC OR the PS2 releases of FSN. Or the PS2 release of Unlimited Codes.
Less about whether she can and more about whether she would.
How about you just cover the events from the VN instead of getting into side materials and spinoffs?
I mean, as much as I like a certain fluffy Caster, I don't want to see her in a Fate/Stay Night adaptation, because she doesn't really belong there.
I can see her doing it, especially if all of her friends are. She might take some coaxing.
Well, what else are they?
Considering they're playing games with themselves on the cover, I think we can assume this isn't supposed to be a serious image.
I don't think friends are enough to sway a proper magus' aversion to technology.
I hope not.
Slightly better animation wouldn't make that god awful mishmash of shit that was the 2006 anime any better.
Rin isn't a "proper" magus, though.
The climax of HF made that VERY clear.
>That line about Kerry being proud that Shirou would have all dem girls in the house
Wait, which hand is the command seal supposed to go on again? Is that picture correct or this one.
Of course, but she still does her best to act like one.
She seems happy enough to use lesser technology on occasion. I wouldn't put it past her to try a game out, but I don't think she'd become a gamer or anything. She probably wouldn't enjoy it much.
OP is correct Shirou'sCommand Spell is supposed o be left hand.
Depends on what her friends are playing. She is competitive, but lacks staying power, so if it's a shooter, if her friends are much better than her, she'll give up after a couple matches. She'll then practice in secret, but wouldn't get much enjoyment from it.
Saber would keep going until she gets more wins than losses, and Sakura would keep going to practice, and is the one most likely to practice getting better on her own for fun.
That's a pretty good assessment.
I'd love to play something like an RPG or a GS with Tohsaka, seems like the kind of thing she'd enjoy, planning and executing long term plans.
Imagine how cute she'd look if she won.
Command seal goes on Shirou left hand.
That image was originally inverted, but somebody somewhere at kadokawa skrewed up and that's how was released.
That's what Takeuchi said.
>RPGs with the Fate crew
I want Shirou to DM some D&D for his harem.
Mostly for Saber.
She'd be cuter if she lost.
>Saber take 14 damage from the Mind Flayer
>But I'm immune to magic!!!!
Tohasaka's pure unadulterated rage on the dice gods mocking her
That wouldn't make sense because of Saber's armour, unless Shirou was inserted in front later on.
>running a tabletop RPG with the Fate crew
I want this, so badly.
Rin would probably stick to what she knows and play a Wizard or Sorcerer. Saber I guess would probably be a LG Paladin, basically playing herself. Sakura might be a rogue, or something like that.
She's just cute in general
Deen's adaptation was mostly Fate and it's 2 cour.
This would be amazing. But I think Kotomine should DM.
Maybe AC-Guy over on /tg/ would like to hear this idea, as something of an omake for his Fate/Stay Again quest. If he ever gets back to it.
>Nah. One of the big things with the Fate series in general is that the definition of a hero is extremely subjective. This is why dicks like Gil and Assassin can be summoned as "heroes," which makes sense, anyways, because by the standards of our time, most Greek and ancient heroes are anti-heroic at best
What is the corrupted Grail.
At least read the novel before complaining, there's a reason if you can summon anti-heores as well.
Oh great, an imitator from the Muv Luv threads.
Frankly, I'd want to DM since I do that in my normal life.
Just seeing how all the characters played would be a joy as well.
Sakura is a Druid, it just fits to a T, but she could also be a nature based cleric due to the nature of her powers. Though Ilya probably suits Cleric more. Rider is so Fey in personality it hurts, I'd love to see her do Warlock.
But Gil was truly heroic at one time and lauded by his people until he became an asshole because of his special snowflake status. Then Enkidu set him straight but he still felt kind of snowflakey, and then we know what happened after that.
Are we going by 4E classes? I can do that too, I guess.
Goldie would probably play a fighter, Ber-ser-car would naturally be a barbarian, and I can see Archer playing a CG Ranger, and yes, that includes dual wielding scimitars.
Kirei would probably be the biggest dick of a dungeon master, having there be mimics spread periodically, rust monsters and Owlbears at every corner
That's exactly why he should do it.
I could actually see Archer picking Warblade instead, if they're doing 3.5.
And since you specified CG instead of just "Good," I assume we are.
Oh, yeah. Forgot about the 4E alignments since when I run 4E I throw them out and use the old ones anyways.
Yeah pretty much everyone did
If Shirou were to slow down for a minute and take a big fat bong rip, would his tendency for overthinking every goddamn thing with bizarre metaphors and repetition ease up a little or get ten times as worse?
It's more likely he and Saber would eat everything in the damn house, while Tohsaka stared at the ceiling and Sakura has a mini-freak out.
The kitchen would be a whole new world to stoned Shirou. He'd probably cry because he can't reason out why frying pans are shaped the way they are and how they manage to be so powerful at what they do.
I think toking up with the Fate cast would certainly be a memorable experience. Imagine eating Shirou's cooking, assuming he was sober enough to prepare it without starting a second Fuyuki fire.
The art has been iffy for the manga, but this spread was fantastic.
It hurt to see Seiba's eyes like that for some reason, I felt like running up to her and holding her in my chest.
And she's not even my favorite grill, it just hurt a lot, too many feelings in those eyes.
I love when they do reflections in the eyes. Dunno why.
We can always have a long series.
Oh, you got nat 20? You should rejoice, EMIYA SHIROU.
What are some scenes in FSN that were nat 20s or 0s?
>pretty much every roll Archer made fighting Berserker in the mansion
Saber V Rider, first encounter in HF
Ceilburn on Basakaaaaa was a double nat 20 times....six lives was it?
NLBW was definitely a few nat 20s, followed by a DM fiat.
Caliburn probably was as well.
And Rin's summoning was definitely a nat 1 that the DM took a bit of pity on.
6 lives was just all he had left. Who knows how many it would've taken.
>Alright, I'm going to roll to summon a Saber class!
>*DM shuffles through his notes, throwing out about half*
I know you're joking, but Rin summons Archer 100% of the time due to the pendant catalyst.
That's just some BS the Dungeon Master retconned in after the campaign was over.
That's obviously something the DM threw together after the fact and pretended he planned from the start, while you are none the wiser.
Have you ever even PLAYED tabletop with a good DM?
Alright, alright. You got me. I used to play DM.
I love doing that.
My players see me as some sort of master planner, when in fact 95% of my material is bullshit I literally make up at the time.
>Fuck Jimmy isn't really doing much in the campaign.....RIN YOUR SERVANT IS JIMMMY ER SHIROU FROM THE FUTURE!
I think Archer would make an ideal DMPC: Knows more than the players, has goals different from what the players have, and can either be killed off or succeed without impacting the main plot.
Killing Shirou would probably impact the main plot.
plus shit like Rho for DM fiats and caladoblg II for clearing encounters going on to long
Well, that's a good point. I meant more in the sense that he doesn't die.
>Retarded Porn VN as source
>Urobuchi is writing
>Ufotable who suck at action
>All that CG cancer
>The TM fags are still hyped for it
What a retarded fanbase
Can we get some alignments going?
I'm guessing CN, maybe with a shade of CG thrown in.
There's the one scene in HF i just finished reading where it describes that he has always wanted to be mortal, but takes too much pleasure in watching suffering
That's pretty much it. Up until the events of F/Z he attempted to live a normal life because he recognises that deriving enjoyment from suffering is evil, but he learns to enjoy himself regardless. Now get out of the thread and finish HF.
>Urobuchi is writing
No, he's not. He's got nothing to do with this.
Alignment doesn't really work too well when you take it out of D&D, where Good, Evil, Law, and Chaos are fundamental, absolute forces of the universe.
I'd actually say Rin would be NG. She's more naturally inclined to be Chaotic, but she tries her best to abide by the expectations placed on her as the head magus of a family. The Lawful lean of "following tradition" balances out her natural chaotic tendencies, but her innate goodness overwhelms her attempts to be an amoral magus.
Yeah, I know alignments only technically work in DnD lore but it's fun to assign them.
I can't see Rin as straight good. She's a nice girl, but she's willing to kill for personal gain on several occasions. I agree with your comments on Law and Chaos, though.
She only acts like she's willing to on account of upholding the magus image. When it comes down to it she won't actually be able to.
I'm not too sure; she seemed really damn serious about it on a few occasions, especially when it came to winning or losing the Holy Grail War. It may have just been her desire to uphold the family image, however.
How is that translation going?
It's brought up quite a few times. At the start of the war when Shirou is killed by Lancer, she uses her family heirloom to revive him, even while acknowledging to herself that Grail War witnesses are a terrible idea and she'd probably have to kill him herself later on anyway.
Same thing at the end of HF, she can't bring herself to kill Sakura despite the circumstances (pretty much everything about to go to shit) and she's given the chance to as well. She's not bad at acting, but that's really all it is.
That's true, but I still don't think it's quite enough to push her into G territory. Even though she shows she can be altruistic, I still don't think she's acting primarily for the benefit of others.
You know, Heaven's Feel has some great moments in it but UBW definitely was best for Shirou, even if he ends up a depressed Counter Guardian eventually.
Training with Rin, who is endlessly inventive both in and out of bed and happy to give footjobs, and delicious threesomes with Seiba.
HF Sakura would never be satisfied with Shirou's cock after taking worms in every orifice for most of her life. She'd be starving for cock to the point where she'd try and take on an entire sports team by herself after Shirou fails to satisfy her lust.
Let's not forget, she was used as Shinji's cum toilet for years.
>threesomes with Seiba
>he doesn't think the True End is canon
I don't think UBW Shirou will reach depressed Counter Guardian stage the way Archer did due to the conclusion he comes to during the route.
Nah they definitely fucked up the hand with the lack of shading and depth
What "route" did Archer even come from? Fate Shirou? UBW Shirou? Some other Shirou we never meet?
As long as Rin keeps fucking him senseless it'll turn out okay.
Anon, that's lewd!
None of them. If you get every single Tiger Dojo, Illya and Taiga talk about how Shirou doesn't seem likely to get to Archer anytime soon at the end of the routes.
Odd. That's the kind of temporal fuckery that makes my brain hurt.
Maybe he doesn't just come from the past, but from an entirely alternate world.
Tiger Dojo is in a realm entirely separate from the consciousness of every single route. Interestingly enough, Shirou can become Kamen Rider in the Tiger Dojo universe.
Tiger Dojo route when
Well, he comes from a future that doesn't quite exist. In his own timeline however, things were probably fairly different - for example, obviously Shirou learns Kanshou and Bakuya off of Archer but Archer himself collected them sometime during his life, so his own Archer probably didn't exist when he was Shirou. If that makes sense
It does. You could say that the "original" Shirou became Archer, while all the others are just spawned from the time loops that his becoming a Counter Guardian created.
>3rei scanlations kinda stopped
>waiting on 2wei anime
Oh well when will ufotable's adaption air anyway?
Despite how dumb this sounds, it reminded me of something. That Shirou, in HF True, Sakura was the one that said that she and Shirou do it too much.
And that was after she had been taken care of his body without making sweet love to him for over a year. Not surprising though, since he apparently can go for more than four hours. Funniest scene in the game was him walking into the living room butt naked after a night of bliss.
I seriously need to get to F/HA already. What a sweetie.
>The final route is almost always the best route in VNs with enforced playing order.
Tell that to fucking Duel Savior. I am not counting the extra route of the remake.
Sounds like retarded forced drama, I'm glad Nasu scrapped that idea.
In HF's normal end Sakura goes full neckbeard and doesn't even leave the house until she dies as a lonely old woman.
If this shit is so popular, why didn't anyone else tried to translate it yet?
Because is old as fuck.
Assassin would have been summoned regardless, since you can literally only summon Hassan when playing by the rules. Gil probably would have been summonable as well; no one was surprised about being able to summon him. Tokiomi only expressed surprise over the fact that guys like Caster were summonable.
Another few years I guess.
So, how are they going to pander to fujoshi this time around?
They can always just cover the events of the VN, or even better, just adapt the manga, since I don't think you can get better as an adaptation than that - though, I guess they can improve on the Sacchin part.
can someone tell me who the fuck is this?
does he do reviews or something?
A site called Fiver lets people do small jobs for...$5.
That guy will read a text for you, for $5. Anything.
4chan found him. You can guess the rest.
Say what you will, but that guy has earned every damn cent of it too.
He gets into everything he reads, even stupid shit.
Is there any video of him readin stupid shit for 4Chan?
Please, tell made you made him read some eroge H-Scene script.
Just look up Tyrone and Rog on youtube, there's dozens of videos of them reading shit like copypasta, animu memes, that shit from the Dark Knight that gets people banned on /tv/, etc.
He read a bunch of lines from the dark night and some "welcome to tumblr, have you checked your privelege today" copy pasta so if you like /tv/ or /pol/ meme's there's at least that in terms of 4chan related things.
>You can guess the rest.
I think it's brilliant, it's cheap but i imagine he gets good money since 4chan found him.
Does he record it on first go, since there's a .gif of him laughing?
>Implying people shine in their grandpa's basement.
He's probably laughing because the script told him to.
There's one video where he literally says:
And spends over a minute laughing.
Never, Taiga has no popularity.
I always thought F/Z is good only because Nasu kept this retard in check.
And thus she truly became a Matou.
But Kerrytugu WAS A HERO
he saved mankind
By killing his waifu and daughteru and allowing Kirei to kill thousands of people?
The only thing he did right was die and leave Shirou with his autistic dream of becoming a Power Ranger. If he wouldn´t had putted such thoughts into his innocent mind, he would had never saved Fuyuki from the Grial.
>It's fine to leave the world at the hands of evil scum just because someone killed my waifu & daughteru
>Kids dreaming of becoming rangers at one point HALARIOUS
Please An Hero
What the fuck are you talking about?
I suppose you don´t even know what you are talking about because nothing of what you said makes sense.
Well...he thought he was being heroic when he destroyed the grail because it was evil.
The problem with Kiritsugu was that his intentions were the best but even so his actions rarely led to happy endings.
Heroes don't care about themselves
They do the job to save humanity
But Kiritsgu didn´t saved anyone but Shirou...though it wasn´t his fault since the fucking Einzberns were way too stupid to say " Take care with the Grial, by the way. We tried to summon Satan in the last war and it may be a little corrupted...If I were you, I wouldn´t try to destroy it or damage it in any way or bad shit will happen."
Saber will suck doesn't she?
Favorite F/SN tracks?
Mine are EMIYA, Ever Present Feeling, Sorrow, New Dawn, and All the Evils of the World.
I started typing out my favorites and then read the rest of your post. They're exactly the same.
... Alright then.
How the fuck do i not remember this.
I believe that's the flash back she has while sitting in the under croft of the church, or whatever you want to call it. About midway through the route, maybe?
Well damn. Time to revisit the route.
It's not long after Archer's betrayal.
F/HA vita version soon.
Glad I put off reading the original vers, gonna be good to have voices for it. Who else is gonna be reading it?
I can't into moon. I wonder how hard porting the voices over to the original would be?
Considering the Vita hasn't been hacked, their only option would be to record all the voices individually.
Then I'm counting on you to get this done, anon. Please don't let us down.
Shirou does look pasted on. He kind of ruins the depth that Excalibur's swirly effects are giving
It'll be faster for you to learn moon.
Actually, never mind just porting the voices, you can learn moon before the 100% F/HA patch is out. I've learned enough from when it was around 56-60% or something like that.
You wouldn't necessarily need to hack the PSV per say.
You would however need to dump the game from the card, and break that encryption. Which hasn't been done either to the best of my knowledge.
But it's a different beast to tackle from reverse-engineering the machine itself.
It looks more as if he wears his pants pulled down like a gangster.
She flat out says somewhere that her opinion to technology is unusually lax compared to a typical magi. She said she likes it if it makes her life easier.
It probably has a lot to do with Kirei's influence though, and the influence of other youths considering that Rin chose to undergo normal schooling and has thus interacted far more with normal people than most magi.
I got the impression that she isn't that into technology, but that she doesn't have much against it. Which is odd for a magus.
I actually did start a month ago. Learned the katakana and hiragana within a week, but I kind of slacked off after that. Haven't done anything for the past two weeks. I don't own a vita regardless.
The way Mia and her brother had the voices of Sakura and Shirou respectively kept cracking me up throughout the entire thing.
Great voice work though, I liked it.
Well, keep at it anon. Even do 30 mins to an hour a day, just as long as it becomes a habit to do a little bit of studying every day. Being able to read any VN you think looks interesting really does make it worth the effort.
I know. Kanji just looks like such a hard task to hit compared to the basic symbols or syllables, or whatever the proper term would be. I really need to set up a time everyday to do what you suggest. Tired of waiting on translations.
Wait, so this is gonna be a mash-up of the routes?
Being Matou is suffering
Nothing is known at this point.
socrates pls go
I hope so. I want to see Seiba in late game HF. That would be neat.
That would be terrible.
Why is the Matou family so beta?
How can you not include Sword of Promised Victory
HF end > UBW > HF everything else > Fate
>HF everything else > Fate
>HF everything else
HF's end was shit, try again.
Who separates parts of routes like this?
The ending was about the only interesting part of HF.
>My opinion is shit
Not him, but it's because the end of HF is just so above everything else in the VN.
>The ending was about the only interesting part of HF.
Wrong. Kotomine was the only interesting part of HF. Everything else was garbage.
How? It was like a wimpier UBW Good End.
I'm surprised people can make it through the VN if the ending of the last route is the only redeeming part of it.
Kotomine is front and center in the ending, so not sure why you would separate him from it. If Kotomine is supposedly good, then so would the ending simply by his presence.
>Liking the ending where the main character survives through the biggest ass-pull imaginable and the magic of true love and shitty writing.
Never said that I didn't enjoy the rest of the VN too.
Kotomine himself is good. I didn't enjoy any other part of it.
Ah, so you just weren't paying attention then.
Here we fucking go.
People can think one ending or another is shit without it being a factual dispute.
>slacked off after that
Do it like Kotomine.
Put more effort into the task, focus yourself completely on learning it.
All of her proportions are poor. The artist really needs to do more studying in that regard.
No you piece of shit they've said no such thing. They have given no information on which route their doing, only that Nasu is on board to write some extra content, probably stuff that happened in the routes but is not explicitly show, as Fate/Stay Night does not have enough third person content to fit Ufotable's style. There is no reason to believe that Ufotable would be dumb enough to understand that you can't combine the routes, or that they would want to make an anime original one.
We know that they want to appeal to all the fans. And we know that not any one route has been confirmed.
That we know.
Expect elements of all of them.
What is she even eating?