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is going to be shit.
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Why do people continue to obsess over the Fate franchise to this day?
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Is it Sakura's time to shine?
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What happened here?
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>>102119359
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>>102119251
What the fuck happened to his body?
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>>102119352
Cause it's good.
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shirou...did you go punching your ideals again, it's really not helping
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>ufotable promo art

Why is it always so bad
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>>102119447
Sakura happened.
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>>102119461
C'mon, give me a real answer.
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>>102119251
Which route?
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>>102119538
Hopefully all 3.
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>>102119484
Ufotables strength is animation not art. Ufotable shows are going to age poorly
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>>102119359
I finally got around to reading this scene the other week. It was really cute.
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>>102119447
Side effects from projection.
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>>102119638
Sakura a shit.
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>>102119251
Shirou why do you have two asses?
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>>102119700
Nah.
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>>102119638
>Not skipping through every Sakura scene in F/HA
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>>102119251
>not nasu 2014 designs
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>>102119352
Because my waifu.
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So how are they going to do the sex scenes this time.
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>>102119734
Why would you want to do that? She's great in F/HA.
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>>102119779
Because Sakura a shit.
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>>102119762
>dragons
>dolphins
>???
Maybe they'll choose a separate animal for TOHSAKA'S ANUS, too.
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>>102119538
I'd say probably a mix
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>>102119762
More CG animals.

Sakura's will be an ever growing Bat.
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>>102119533
Very attractive and exploitable concept.
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>>102119809
I disagree and I think you're missing out on some pretty great stuff if you just ignore all her F/HA scenes, but to each his own.
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I'm going to hope that Ufotable animates Porkslope Turkeyhandle after this.
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>>102119447
I'm assuming you can't squat.
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>>102119973
I'm assuming you don't know what a human looks like.
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>>102119933
I wouldn't be surprised if they did, but it'll probably be based on the remake and won't happen until after that comes out in twenty years or so.
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>>102119779
Sakura's just always been boring to me.
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>>102119812
>???
It's bloodsuckin'

seriously
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>>102120024
That's the neat thing about F/HA, even characters that seemed really boring before have some nice scenes. Or at least, that's how it was for me. I'm not saying you have to like Sakura, but I think it's worth giving her parts a chance. Hell, it's worth giving just about everybody a chance in F/HA.
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>>102119374
Looking at my own hand at a certain angle, I don't really see the problem with it. He's also curling the sides up as if he is going to make a fist or a ball with his hand distorting it even further.

>>102119359
She isn't in the promo. Doesn't look like it.
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>>102120279
Sakura is in another pic.
>>102100522
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>>102120353
>That Touma pose
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We even know the lenght?
What if they make a 3 cour show covering all the three routes?
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>>102120164
Well then, I'm just waiting on the validation and installer here...
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>>102120439
>3 cour
Nigga, each route would need 2 cour (though maybe you could do it all in 65 episodes or something).
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>>102119762
>>102119812

It's blood sucking in the dream with Tohsaka and blood sucking with Sakura.
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>>102120439
We literally know nothing except a vague hint at the plot.
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They could also just go offscreen for some of the sex scenes.
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>>102120439

Anything less than 24 episodes for a for every single route is a crime.
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>>102120479
I look forward to hearing your thoughts about it once that's all done in ten years.
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>>102120543

Which is what they should have done in Realta Nua honestly.
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>>102120543
This would be the best.
Heaven's feel route and skipping the sex scenes, but hinting at them.
Anon, you know it will never happen.
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>>102120543
Well, the manga went for the off-screen Saber's second Fate scene.
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>>102120525
Not really, they already confirmed it's going to be a mix of the three routes with something that Nasu will add as original anime content.
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>>102119447

I think that the back of his jacket is suppose to be whipping up and blowing around from wind or some force or something.

Like this drawing or something like it
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>>102120956
No, they definitely have not confirmed that. The only part of your post that's even partially true is that Nasu has been giving them info about things that went on during F/SN that weren't in the VN and they're working some of that into the script, so it seems like there will be some anime original bits.
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>>102121124
Of course that's what it is, we're just making fun of how weird it looks. At least I am.
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>>102121291
It's the hand that really gets me. Look at that shit, it's like he has some horrifying, extra-long finger thumb.
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>>102121341
I can see what they're going for with the hand, it's a bit of an odd angle. Could have been executed better.
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>>102121341
Not just that, look at the positioning. Try to bend your arm back at an angle past your shoulder like that.
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HEAVEN'S FEEL CONFIRMED
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>>102119447
Ufotable animators think they can be Araki
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Kariya was the only real hero in Fate/Zero.
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>>102121430
I wish people would stop saying that. Next to nothing has been confirmed yet.
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>>102121551
He was a mess
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>>102121551
You mean the murderer/rapist/pedo? Ya, he's a great hero.
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>>102121552
My dad works at Type-Moon and he told me it's going to be a 100 episode Tiger Dojo adaptation.
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>>102121673
PERFECT
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Is it bad that all I think about while at work is F/SN and the new adaptation and whatnot?
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>>102121756
What's with her knee?
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>>102121673
10/10
The next Madoka of the Evangelion of Anime.
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>>102121756
My hand goes to the save button everytime I see this image but then I see that left knee...
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>>102121551
Confirmed for not knowing shit about shit
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>>102121756
Yes, because you're gonna be left thinking about it for quite a while.
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>>102121828
Take this then
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>still no tsukihime anime
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>>102121895
The VN remake will be out in a few months, then Ufotable will be starting on the anime adaptation.
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>>102121895
Maybe after the remake.
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>>102121673
It'll never happen.
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>>102121839
>Kirei with Assasin Bitch
>not Zaid
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>>102121895
But there was one.
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>>102121937
We can dream, anon.
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>>102119762
It could just be:
> Let's have sex!
> Black screen
> We just had sex!
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>>102121551
>Fate/Zero
>anyone
>hero
Good job missing the entire point of the franchise.
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>>102122049
If we're lucky we'll get Tiger Dojo BD specials.
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>>102122165
>accepting surface messages
>not realizing the characters are all examples of heroism done wrongly
>not realizing that the story's purpose is to predict Shirou's true heroism

It's a sad day when Fate/Zero is 2deep4u.
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>>102122262
>not realizing the characters are all examples of heroism done wrongly

I'm pretty sure there's nothing heroic about Ryuunosuke, though.
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>>102122362
Add Kirei to that.
Also what was Tokiomi's goal anyway?
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>>102122362
The number of failed heroes far eclipses the number of purely antagonistic psychopathic murderers.

Besides, Ryuunosuke provided what was close to a purely comedic role.
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>>102122262
>>102122362
I don´t think Kirei, Tokiomi or Kayneth were too heroic either.
It´s about morals and shit, not everyone being examples of heroism.
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>>102122417
Magic stuff.
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>>102122417
To reach the root
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>>102122417
To kill all the Servants, including his, and reach the Root...that is some magic thing in the Grail that would transform a magus into the Second Jesus or something like that.
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>Urobuchi originally designed a plot line involving one of Assassin's personalities, a small girl called Child Assassin, joining with Waver and Rider in the second or third volume to lighten up the story.
>She was conceived as a unfortunate young girl lacking in conversational skills, memories, and the awareness that she was a part of Hassan-i-Sabbah
>Waver mistakes her presence there, believing her to be one of Ryuunosuke's victims suffering from memory loss, and while Rider knows of her identity, he honors Waver's chivalry to allow the Mackenzies to take in yet another false household member.
>After Kotomine, who knows of her existence, utilizes the Command Spell to attack those at the Einzbern Castle, she regains her memories as Hassan
>Through a dramatic farewell tragedy, Waver would climb another step on the path to becoming an adult.

Frankly I don't even care if this would have made Waver look more like a main character or if it would be too 'distracting', it would have been an really cool plot point. It would have also made Assassin not boring as fuck.
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>>102122425
>It´s about morals and shit
I think it's about ideals and little egoistical whims if any.
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>>102122437
>>102122450
An example of heroism from a Nasu Mage's perspective.

>>102122417
Kirei has pretty much always been inverse foil to Shirou.
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>>102119723
God damn anon, you gotta warn a motherfucker before you post stuff that cute.

Sakura is lovely.
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Is route confirmed yet?
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>>102120485
>>102120550
You people are really overestimating the length of each route.
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>>102122556
At the moment it's confirmed as a modified route of some kind so it won't specifically follow any of the VN routes but other than that they've been pretty vague.
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>>102122468
Are there any more stories like this from F/Z's development?
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>>102122530
What was Kayneth example of heroism? He jsut wanted to win the Grail War because it was a prestigious magus shit.
The most close he was to being heroic is when he formed Lancer to an hero.
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>>102122556
A secret 4th where Illya is the MC.
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>>102122649
*forced Lancer
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>>102122530
>want suffering and destruction
>heroic
I don't think so, also despite all the shit Nasu believes what's heroic about "reaching the route"?
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>>102122417
Tokiomi's goal was to reach the Root, as his ancestors once wished to. He really doesn't have much ambition of his own, he just does as the Tohsaka name dictates.
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>>102122649

He's basically the absolutely shitty version of Toikomi that shows how far Magus society really is from being respectable.
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>>102122530
Magi don't consider reaching the Root "heroic".
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>>102122704
>reaching the route
Holy fuck, Tokiomi was trying to unlock Illya´s route!
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>>102122704
Reaching the Root makes you an absolute idol to basically any magus that has ever lived, you realize?

It's like a half-step away apotheosis.

That's the kind of thing Nasu's magi consider to be 'heroism.'
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>>102119447
His body is made of swords.
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>>102121551
Not that I disagree with you necessarily, but you really should know better than to bring up Kariya on /a/. You'll never get good discussion about him, just people parroting the same old misconceptions. Trust me, I've done this song and dance way too many times.
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>>102122837
We are of the same mind, then, brother.

It's just that I have yet to cease enjoying it.
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>>102122837
>just people parroting the same old misconceptions
That's like, most of Fate discussions since 2011
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>>102123010
>most of /a/ discussions since always
ftfy*
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>>102122870
Makes me happy to see other people that like him and cheer him on. Now that the anime's been over for a while and the dust has settled there's not nearly as much shitposting about his "ulterior motives" that don't even exist, but some persistent retards still like to try it. Oh well, they're the ones with no reading comprehension whatsoever, considering the text itself within the novel confirms that Kariya was fighting purely on Sakura's behalf.
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>>102121551
Kariya had good intentions but bad motives. His heart wasn't in the right place. His goal wasn't so much to save Sakura as it was to get back at Tokiomi, the Matou's and the magi world in general as well as to live out his fantasy as her father/Aoi's husband. He was pretty selfish, all things considered. He did the right thing for the wrong reasons. At least Urobuchi let him die with a smile on his face, which is more than can be said for a lot of Urobuchi characters.
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>>102123031
>there's not nearly as much shitposting about his "ulterior motives" that don't even exist, but some persistent retards still like to try it. Oh well, they're the ones with no reading comprehension whatsoever, considering the text itself within the novel confirms that Kariya was fighting purely on Sakura's behalf.
What is it about Kariyafags and failing to understand the character entirely?
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>>102119723

Sakura is just altogether great in Hollow, since you get to see her good points even better now that she is free. Best part of that scene is Shirou busting out and Sakura doesn't just make shenanigans and deny hugging his jacket, she goes for the gusto.

She is a refreshing character, since she is so honest with her love. She feeds him crepes she they go shopping, and has her junior take couple shots with them using her cellphone. Not even getting to the part where she redevelops the archery club to where they can compete nationally. If only Nasu had let us see her training her magic some, it would have been perfect. All this, and she is the youngest of the cast.
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>>102123034
>Kariya had good intentions but bad motives. His heart wasn't in the right place. His goal wasn't so much to save Sakura as it was to get back at Tokiomi, the Matou's and the magi world in general as well as to live out his fantasy as her father/Aoi's husband.

Except that's completely wrong; this is one of those misconceptions I'm talking about. Check the text.

>Such appropriate words of farewell for the occasion; though only a child, she picked them out with astounding accuracy. Kariya prayed in his heart as he watched Sakura’s spiritless, retreating figure—Please, let it not be too late. He no longer cared about things concerning himself. His life was already given to Aoi and Sakura. He was too late, but he had no regrets, save for the possibility that he could be dead before he even managed to get his hands on the Grail.
>The only thing worrying him was Sakura. If Kariya successfully obtained the Holy Grail and returned Sakura to her mother, could the girl, sealed tightly in despair, one day break that shell and once again join the outside world? The heartbreak Sakura had endured this year would undoubtedly stay with her for life, but he hoped they will heal with time. He hoped her heart had not been dealt a deadly blow by the torments she faced. He could only pray. The one who could heal the wounds of her heart was not he. He had far too little time left; he could not take up that job. That was a job for those whose future lives were guaranteed.

>>102123065
You have no idea what you're talking about. Kariya's story wasn't about the nature of selfishness vs selflessness, his story was about being chained to a twisted sense of responsibility when the one thing he needed to do more than anything else was stay alive and healthy to be Sakura's support system now that she had nobody else.
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>>102123198
>He could only pray. The one who could heal the wounds of her heart was not he. He had far too little time left; he could not take up that job. That was a job for those whose future lives were guaranteed.
Your prayers were answered.
Good night, twisted and infected little prince.
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>>102123065
What is it about anti-Kariya fags that they have to assert their own shitty readings of the text as some sort of incontrovertible proof that Kariya had evil motives or something?

He undergoes an enormous amount of suffering, unnecessary suffering if his only goal is revenge, in order to achieve even the slightest chance of a genuinely altruistic conclusion.

The fact that he gets to die happy and fulfilled, indicates that his viewpoint was nearing the 'right' one in Gen's moral system. The only people that get to die happily are those that realize and accept their own flaws.
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>>102123158
Because she was made to be the paafecuto waifu character.
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>>102123065

I think both sides fail to understand it, but that is common in this fanbase to not have a leveled objective character analysis.

He was jealous of Tokiomi, and let his hate burn within him, but his desire to save Sakura was real, and he regretted that she was made to face Zouken's cruelty because he left (for good reasons, that family was fucked with Zouken).

The bottom line is that he is a selfish person, but did indeed care about Aoi and her daughters, and it wasn't just about him trying to get milf pussy. In fact, he left partly to subvert a plan Zouken made to get Aoi's superbaby maker.
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>>102119620
I seriously doubt it. UFOtables pre-release concept art has always been mediocre but both Kara no Kyoukai (several years since its release) and Fate/Zero are some of the prettiest anime out there to look at.
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>>102123376
I mean, based on that definition of selfish, who could possibly not be selfish?

You'd have to be literally autistic like Shirou to avoid classification as a selfish person.

Alternatively, it could mean that people's demonization of the term 'selfish' is wholly unjustified, because it's impossible to have motives that aren't selfish.

All of his actions- literally all of them- are done with, at the very least, deliberate consideration for the well being of others that he cares for.
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>>102123463
>are some of the prettiest anime out there to look at.
If you like high amounts of bloom and gloss covering up poor CGI, then sure.
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>>102123351

Not really, in fact, Hollow was about her growing and finding herself. She loves Shirou, that much is true, but she has her own goals. Much of her scenes were her working and remaking the archery club, and she even skips a day of shopping with Shirou and tells him to go have fun with Rider while she works on club affairs.

The only ones that designate her as a waifu character or call her scenes boring are Sakura haters, who didn't really pay attention to the scenes in the first place.
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>>102123555
I'm not an art or animation major by any means. I just know what looks good from the perspective of a layman from the general audience. If someone like me can't tell that something's "wrong" then it will probably age fairly well.
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>>102123597
>go have fun with Rider

Shit, finish the translation already.
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>>102123376
He definitely had no shortage of insecurity and jealousy surrounding Tokiomi, but people forget that Kariya doesn't think highly of himself. At all. He does not consider himself the more worthy or "rightful" candidate for Aoi's love. For example:

>Raise not your eyes, be not a bother. That was how he had lived. Anger, hatred—Having left it all behind in the desolate streets of his hometown Miyama, Kariya never made a fuss over anything. Even the foulest, ugliest matters were nothing compared to the things he hated in this land.

Kariya's main issue isn't even jealousy or insecurity, it's that he has so little self-worth that it results in an absolute lack of regard for his own life. That's why his death scene and Sakura's reaction are so significant; if he had chosen to live rather than pursuing the Grail, he might have been able to lessen the influence Zouken's brainwashing had on Sakura (which is also noted quite early on). Again, he really was all that she had left.
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>>102123463
I want to ruffle Kotomine's hair.
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>>102122165
Nah. One of the big things with the Fate series in general is that the definition of a hero is extremely subjective. This is why dicks like Gil and Assassin can be summoned as "heroes," which makes sense, anyways, because by the standards of our time, most Greek and ancient heroes are anti-heroic at best. I'd say that Kerry's a hero, btw. Ultimately, he probably saved far, far more people than he ever killed, possibly averting a zombie apocalypse with the plane mission alone. Kariya's heart was in the right place, but his intentions were vastly outstripped by his abilities. If he had been successful at rescuing Sakura, though, then there'd be no doubt in my mind that he'd be a hero.
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>>102123804
>" My wife just died. I could go to therapy...or devote the following three years to some stupid magus conflict that some rich faggot and my idiotic father consider very important. Even more, I will kill thousands of people in the process...yeah, that will be fun."
I love Kirei...and not in an ironic way.
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>>102123597

Its easy to downplay a character you don't like, plain and simple. She cooks well, must be generic waifu, right? Except she has several self-help books because she wasn't good at it and genuinely enjoyed learning more about it, which is why she is the most diverse cook of the Emiya party, she worked to get there. Was even humble enough to ask Rin to teach her Chinese, so she has Pastries, Western, Chinese, and Japanese under her belt now.

Additionaly, if I remember right, the beginning of her h-scene in H/A was her telling Shirou that she wanted to be a tree doctor, and was researching ways to cultivate plants as a career.
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>>102123948
Well, that's kind of the point of his character.

He's someone who is literally incapable of feeling pleasure from good things.
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>>102124042
How the fuck they had sex then? Did he just stood there with a plain face while his wife rided him...or did he insulted her while they were doing it to get turned on?
Why did he got married in the first place?
I need to read the fucking LN.
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>>102123953
>Its easy to downplay a character you don't like, plain and simple
If you look at all the Saber hate on /a/, yeah...
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>>102124088
*wife rode him
Need some sleep
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>>102119251
Now that is a weird pose coming from shirou
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>>102123948
I'm not sure who you're quoting, but it's definitely not Kotomine. He went into the war looking for a way to save himself, not to mass murder people.
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Rin best girl
Sakura best slut
UBW best route.
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>>102123948
Risei mentioned to Tokiomi that Kirei would do anything the Church willed. I'm sure you at least have some notion of why that is, but he wasn't serving Tokiomi just for fun, he was doing it because Risei had presented it as a Church matter. And, well, because he had Command Spells.

Also, his wife dying had left him with trauma that caused his mind to try and block her out. He struggles with this on multiple occasions. He wasn't ignoring her death or deeming it unimportant.
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>>102124138
He went to the Grail War looking for something he could feel passionate about. Like he had been doing since always.
In the end, he found happiness by massmurdering people.
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>>102124144
my fellow gentleman of the african-american persuasion
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>>102124088
Are you... retarded?

Kotomine's character is made explicitly clear in everything but F/0 anime. He's used to be really good at faking normality, but after his wife died and he was tutored by Gil, he became the kind of person you see in the VN.
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>>102124189
>He went to the Grail War looking for something he could feel passionate about. Like he had been doing since always.

Exactly. He was looking for something he could truly enjoy, something that would give his life meaning, a reason to keep living. He wasn't aware on any conscious level that he could only get that from suffering and whatnot. He did not enter the war thinking, "Aw man, I can't wait to kill loads of people."
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>>102124144
Does it hurt having chronically bad opinions?
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>>102124286
More like he had always been that kind of person, it´s just that he didn´t realized it.
He spent most of his life pretending to be a normal guy, then his wife died and he couldn´t do even that.
To make it worse, he knew Gilgamesh, who made him realize how twisted he was.
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>>102119715
Unlimited Butt Works
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>>102121839
>Kirei and COOOOOLURU
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>>102123764

You'll be pleasantly surprised. Sakura isn't nearly as jealous as people make her out to be. Like >>102123597 said, she has other things on her mind besides Shirou. She just is now more honest with how she's feeling.

She has this adorable conversation with Shirou about having Rider wear cuter outfits, and they go on about how cute she is..right in front of her.
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>>102124352
He does realise it, he just doesn't let himself because he acknowledges that what he enjoys is evil and strangely enough has a pretty decent sense of right and wrong. Of course throughout F/Z Gil convinces him that it's okay to do what he derives enjoyment from regardless.
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>>102123305
Only in one route.
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>>102124144
>UBW best route
I still wonder if UBWfags are just being intentionally autistic or whether or not they actually believe this. How someone can think the climax of F/SN that is HF is not the best route is beyond me. The final route is almost always the best route in VNs with enforced playing order.
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>>102124832
HF has the best moments but UBW has plenty good moments and is more consistent in quality with Sakura. Rin is much more proactive love interest and had Lancer and Garcher
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>>102124832
A lot of cooking, no Saber, who's one of the most popular Type-Moon characters period, a dislike of Sakura, an annoyance at what happened to Gil, and a dislike of Shirou giving up his ideals are all reason for disliking HF.
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>>102124832
You seem to be implying that simply because Nasu put the route last, that would automatically make it better than the others. HF has pacing issues from my perspective that knock it out of first place. UBW is hardly flawless, but it stayed more consistent throughout the route.
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>>102124352
>pretending to be a normal guy
More like he was trying to become a normal guy. "Pretending" or "faking" sounds dexter.
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>>102124088
He could have raped her.
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>>102124908
Also being so close to Illya yet so far....
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>>102124908
But Shirou never gave up his ideals, if either UBW or Fate Shirou were put in the same situation they would have had to make some sort of compromise too. The whole point of that particular scene in HF was supposed to present a situation where Shirou's ideal is fucked either way.
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Tsukihime is never getting an anime is it
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>>102124908

There was a lot of Saber bring bros at the start, so the "no Saber" is false. There wasn't that much cooking, and those scenes are kept at a minimum or had important character development, if you don't like Sakura that is your business, and what happened to Gil is essentially the same thing that happened to him at the end of UBW, he just didn't escape so easily this time, as Grail had Sakura's spiritual affinity as a support.

As for Shirou giving up his ideals, it was made clear time and again that this was a tense situation, unlike the other routes, but if people dislike it without really understanding Shirou's situation, it can't be helped.
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>>102125133
Shirou doesn't give up his ideals at all though.
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>>102125251
He chose sakura over the many people she might kill, thats pretty far from the superhero ideal he was trying to pursue to copy kerry
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>>102124217
What's with all the correct in this thread?
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>>102124971

I think the word you are looking for rather than consistent is more linear. Not knocking UBW, but the plot was fairly linear, with the themes of the ideal more heavily featured and focused upon, which might be where you see it as more consistent.

Also, I see people talk about pacing issues with HF, but never see this explained, mind elaborating? It seemed pretty clear cut, with the only issue being having to absorb a lot of information at once.
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>>102124217
>Rin playing video games
No
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>>102125340
She's just playing what seems to be a console version of the VNs.

Even Tohsaka can press "Next".
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>>102125296
I'm one of the people above who commented on not preferring HF, but I would argue that Shriou never has a clear idea of what his idea is or what it means to him. He knows there are risks involved in allowing Sakura to live, and even chooses to end her multiple times within the route. That said, I feel his choice in HF was more of a continuation of the conclusion he and Rin came to in UBW that the goal may be impossible, but the journey towards it is what's important. Killing Sakura is the easy way out. Trying to save her as well as others more closely matches his goal.
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>>102125077
It got a good percentage of a wonderful anime. Let's not be greedy.
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>>102125296
Shirou's ideal is different from Kerry's. At it's base form it's simply "saving people". UBW already shows that it's not actually possible in full, so he compromises and just does his best to save people at all.

Mind of Steel is actually the absolute betrayal of his ideals. Sacrificing people to save others is not acceptable under any circumstances, and I don't believe Shirou from any route would kill Sakura in HF. Saving the people in front of him, even if it was just one person (Sakura) is ultimately what he believes in. Hell, even Kiritsugu discovers this at the end of the 4th war when he saves Shirou.
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>>102125376
Then why she's holding the controller with two hands?
And why she has her finfers on the triggers too?
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>>102125511
more comfortable yo it feels more natural
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>>102125511
I always figured that was a natural controller pose. She doesn't seem to be playing right now anyways, she's mugging for the camera.
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>>102125398
The tsukihime anime can never happen because there is far too muche awesome to cover and any attempt will besmerch the name of such a good story. besides, there are too many characters to make an anime unless you were going to make a dbz length type deal

would you start it when arc is still on the moon

before or after roas deception

during nero or warrachia

maybe after most of the dead apostles are gone

how will they go into the mystic eyes let alone shit like cubic arcatraz and ort
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>>102125296

That is the thing, it isn't that cut and dry. And people seem to forget that rather than copying Kerry, he wanted to go further than Kerry did, where he had to sacrifice no one.

So abandoning Sakura is as much anathema to that goal as just letting things go. Further, he did put his all into stopping the conflict, its not like he just sat at home and waited for the end, which is what HF detractors frame the situation as, which is the logical conclusion of a bad situation without clear information.
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>>102125376
Neither of the artworks on the console cases matches up with the PC OR the PS2 releases of FSN. Or the PS2 release of Unlimited Codes.

Just saying.
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>>102125376
Less about whether she can and more about whether she would.
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>>102125595
How about you just cover the events from the VN instead of getting into side materials and spinoffs?

I mean, as much as I like a certain fluffy Caster, I don't want to see her in a Fate/Stay Night adaptation, because she doesn't really belong there.
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>>102125604
I can see her doing it, especially if all of her friends are. She might take some coaxing.

>>102125601
Well, what else are they?
Considering they're playing games with themselves on the cover, I think we can assume this isn't supposed to be a serious image.
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>>102125656
I don't think friends are enough to sway a proper magus' aversion to technology.
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>>102119839
I hope not.

Slightly better animation wouldn't make that god awful mishmash of shit that was the 2006 anime any better.
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>>102125695
Rin isn't a "proper" magus, though.

The climax of HF made that VERY clear.
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>>102125695
>That line about Kerry being proud that Shirou would have all dem girls in the house
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>>102119251
Wait, which hand is the command seal supposed to go on again? Is that picture correct or this one.
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>>102125722
Of course, but she still does her best to act like one.
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>>102125695
She seems happy enough to use lesser technology on occasion. I wouldn't put it past her to try a game out, but I don't think she'd become a gamer or anything. She probably wouldn't enjoy it much.
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>>102125753
OP is correct Shirou'sCommand Spell is supposed o be left hand.
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>>102125656

Depends on what her friends are playing. She is competitive, but lacks staying power, so if it's a shooter, if her friends are much better than her, she'll give up after a couple matches. She'll then practice in secret, but wouldn't get much enjoyment from it.

Saber would keep going until she gets more wins than losses, and Sakura would keep going to practice, and is the one most likely to practice getting better on her own for fun.
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>>102125879
That's a pretty good assessment.
I'd love to play something like an RPG or a GS with Tohsaka, seems like the kind of thing she'd enjoy, planning and executing long term plans.

Imagine how cute she'd look if she won.
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>>102125753
Command seal goes on Shirou left hand.
That image was originally inverted, but somebody somewhere at kadokawa skrewed up and that's how was released.
That's what Takeuchi said.
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>>102125907
>RPGs with the Fate crew

I want Shirou to DM some D&D for his harem.

Mostly for Saber.
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>>102125907
She'd be cuter if she lost.
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>>102125931
>Saber take 14 damage from the Mind Flayer
>But I'm immune to magic!!!!

Tohasaka's pure unadulterated rage on the dice gods mocking her
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>>102125929
That wouldn't make sense because of Saber's armour, unless Shirou was inserted in front later on.
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>>102125931
>running a tabletop RPG with the Fate crew

I want this, so badly.
Rin would probably stick to what she knows and play a Wizard or Sorcerer. Saber I guess would probably be a LG Paladin, basically playing herself. Sakura might be a rogue, or something like that.

>>102125949
She's just cute in general
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>>102120485
Deen's adaptation was mostly Fate and it's 2 cour.
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>>102126009
This would be amazing. But I think Kotomine should DM.
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>>102125969
>>102126009
Maybe AC-Guy over on /tg/ would like to hear this idea, as something of an omake for his Fate/Stay Again quest. If he ever gets back to it.
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>>102123939
>Nah. One of the big things with the Fate series in general is that the definition of a hero is extremely subjective. This is why dicks like Gil and Assassin can be summoned as "heroes," which makes sense, anyways, because by the standards of our time, most Greek and ancient heroes are anti-heroic at best
What is the corrupted Grail.
At least read the novel before complaining, there's a reason if you can summon anti-heores as well.
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>>102124144
Oh great, an imitator from the Muv Luv threads.
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>>102126044
Frankly, I'd want to DM since I do that in my normal life.
Just seeing how all the characters played would be a joy as well.
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>>102126009

Sakura is a Druid, it just fits to a T, but she could also be a nature based cleric due to the nature of her powers. Though Ilya probably suits Cleric more. Rider is so Fey in personality it hurts, I'd love to see her do Warlock.
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>>102123939
But Gil was truly heroic at one time and lauded by his people until he became an asshole because of his special snowflake status. Then Enkidu set him straight but he still felt kind of snowflakey, and then we know what happened after that.
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>>102126178
Are we going by 4E classes? I can do that too, I guess.

Goldie would probably play a fighter, Ber-ser-car would naturally be a barbarian, and I can see Archer playing a CG Ranger, and yes, that includes dual wielding scimitars.
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>>102126044
Kirei would probably be the biggest dick of a dungeon master, having there be mimics spread periodically, rust monsters and Owlbears at every corner
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>>102126258
That's exactly why he should do it.
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>>102126241
I could actually see Archer picking Warblade instead, if they're doing 3.5.

And since you specified CG instead of just "Good," I assume we are.
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>>102126306
Oh, yeah. Forgot about the 4E alignments since when I run 4E I throw them out and use the old ones anyways.
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>>102126322
Yeah pretty much everyone did
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If Shirou were to slow down for a minute and take a big fat bong rip, would his tendency for overthinking every goddamn thing with bizarre metaphors and repetition ease up a little or get ten times as worse?
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>>102126362
Heh.

>>102126423
It's more likely he and Saber would eat everything in the damn house, while Tohsaka stared at the ceiling and Sakura has a mini-freak out.
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>>102126459
The kitchen would be a whole new world to stoned Shirou. He'd probably cry because he can't reason out why frying pans are shaped the way they are and how they manage to be so powerful at what they do.
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>>102126509
I think toking up with the Fate cast would certainly be a memorable experience. Imagine eating Shirou's cooking, assuming he was sober enough to prepare it without starting a second Fuyuki fire.
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The art has been iffy for the manga, but this spread was fantastic.

It hurt to see Seiba's eyes like that for some reason, I felt like running up to her and holding her in my chest.

And she's not even my favorite grill, it just hurt a lot, too many feelings in those eyes.
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>>102126550
Dem collarbones
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>>102126568

I love when they do reflections in the eyes. Dunno why.
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>>102125595
We can always have a long series.
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>>102126044
Oh, you got nat 20? You should rejoice, EMIYA SHIROU.
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>>102126800
What are some scenes in FSN that were nat 20s or 0s?

>pretty much every roll Archer made fighting Berserker in the mansion
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>>102127098
Saber V Rider, first encounter in HF
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>>102127098
Ceilburn on Basakaaaaa was a double nat 20 times....six lives was it?
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>>102127098
NLBW was definitely a few nat 20s, followed by a DM fiat.

Caliburn probably was as well.

And Rin's summoning was definitely a nat 1 that the DM took a bit of pity on.
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>>102127154
6 lives was just all he had left. Who knows how many it would've taken.
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>>102127188
>Alright, I'm going to roll to summon a Saber class!
>1
>*DM shuffles through his notes, throwing out about half*
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>>102127188
I know you're joking, but Rin summons Archer 100% of the time due to the pendant catalyst.
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>>102127252
That's just some BS the Dungeon Master retconned in after the campaign was over.
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>>102127252
That's obviously something the DM threw together after the fact and pretended he planned from the start, while you are none the wiser.

Have you ever even PLAYED tabletop with a good DM?
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>>102127280
>>102127299
Alright, alright. You got me. I used to play DM.
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>>102127299
I love doing that.
My players see me as some sort of master planner, when in fact 95% of my material is bullshit I literally make up at the time.
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>>102127299
>Fuck Jimmy isn't really doing much in the campaign.....RIN YOUR SERVANT IS JIMMMY ER SHIROU FROM THE FUTURE!
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>>102127340
I think Archer would make an ideal DMPC: Knows more than the players, has goals different from what the players have, and can either be killed off or succeed without impacting the main plot.
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>>102127370
>succeed
Killing Shirou would probably impact the main plot.
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>>102127370
plus shit like Rho for DM fiats and caladoblg II for clearing encounters going on to long
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>>102127393
Well, that's a good point. I meant more in the sense that he doesn't die.
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>Retarded Porn VN as source
>Urobuchi is writing
>Ufotable who suck at action
>All that CG cancer
>The TM fags are still hyped for it

What a retarded fanbase
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Can we get some alignments going?

I'm guessing CN, maybe with a shade of CG thrown in.
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>>102124286
There's the one scene in HF i just finished reading where it describes that he has always wanted to be mortal, but takes too much pleasure in watching suffering
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>>102127664
That's pretty much it. Up until the events of F/Z he attempted to live a normal life because he recognises that deriving enjoyment from suffering is evil, but he learns to enjoy himself regardless. Now get out of the thread and finish HF.
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>>102127590
>Urobuchi is writing

No, he's not. He's got nothing to do with this.
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>>102127614
Alignment doesn't really work too well when you take it out of D&D, where Good, Evil, Law, and Chaos are fundamental, absolute forces of the universe.

I'd actually say Rin would be NG. She's more naturally inclined to be Chaotic, but she tries her best to abide by the expectations placed on her as the head magus of a family. The Lawful lean of "following tradition" balances out her natural chaotic tendencies, but her innate goodness overwhelms her attempts to be an amoral magus.
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>>102127739
Yeah, I know alignments only technically work in DnD lore but it's fun to assign them.

I can't see Rin as straight good. She's a nice girl, but she's willing to kill for personal gain on several occasions. I agree with your comments on Law and Chaos, though.
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>>102127806
She only acts like she's willing to on account of upholding the magus image. When it comes down to it she won't actually be able to.
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>>102127841
I'm not too sure; she seemed really damn serious about it on a few occasions, especially when it came to winning or losing the Holy Grail War. It may have just been her desire to uphold the family image, however.
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So...
How is that translation going?
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>>102127880
It's brought up quite a few times. At the start of the war when Shirou is killed by Lancer, she uses her family heirloom to revive him, even while acknowledging to herself that Grail War witnesses are a terrible idea and she'd probably have to kill him herself later on anyway.

Same thing at the end of HF, she can't bring herself to kill Sakura despite the circumstances (pretty much everything about to go to shit) and she's given the chance to as well. She's not bad at acting, but that's really all it is.
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>>102127942
That's true, but I still don't think it's quite enough to push her into G territory. Even though she shows she can be altruistic, I still don't think she's acting primarily for the benefit of others.
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>>102119251
You know, Heaven's Feel has some great moments in it but UBW definitely was best for Shirou, even if he ends up a depressed Counter Guardian eventually.

Training with Rin, who is endlessly inventive both in and out of bed and happy to give footjobs, and delicious threesomes with Seiba.

HF Sakura would never be satisfied with Shirou's cock after taking worms in every orifice for most of her life. She'd be starving for cock to the point where she'd try and take on an entire sports team by herself after Shirou fails to satisfy her lust.

Let's not forget, she was used as Shinji's cum toilet for years.
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>>102128047
>threesomes with Seiba
>he doesn't think the True End is canon
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>>102128047
I don't think UBW Shirou will reach depressed Counter Guardian stage the way Archer did due to the conclusion he comes to during the route.
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>>102120279
Nah they definitely fucked up the hand with the lack of shading and depth
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>>102128140
What "route" did Archer even come from? Fate Shirou? UBW Shirou? Some other Shirou we never meet?
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>>102128140
As long as Rin keeps fucking him senseless it'll turn out okay.
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>>102128166
Anon, that's lewd!
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>>102128165
Illya Route
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>>102127937
This
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>>102128165
None of them. If you get every single Tiger Dojo, Illya and Taiga talk about how Shirou doesn't seem likely to get to Archer anytime soon at the end of the routes.
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>>102128359
Odd. That's the kind of temporal fuckery that makes my brain hurt.

Maybe he doesn't just come from the past, but from an entirely alternate world.
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>>102128383
Tiger Dojo is in a realm entirely separate from the consciousness of every single route. Interestingly enough, Shirou can become Kamen Rider in the Tiger Dojo universe.
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>>102128418
Tiger Dojo route when
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>>102128383
Well, he comes from a future that doesn't quite exist. In his own timeline however, things were probably fairly different - for example, obviously Shirou learns Kanshou and Bakuya off of Archer but Archer himself collected them sometime during his life, so his own Archer probably didn't exist when he was Shirou. If that makes sense
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>>102128455
It does. You could say that the "original" Shirou became Archer, while all the others are just spawned from the time loops that his becoming a Counter Guardian created.
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>3rei scanlations kinda stopped
>waiting on 2wei anime

Oh well when will ufotable's adaption air anyway?
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>>102128047

Despite how dumb this sounds, it reminded me of something. That Shirou, in HF True, Sakura was the one that said that she and Shirou do it too much.

And that was after she had been taken care of his body without making sweet love to him for over a year. Not surprising though, since he apparently can go for more than four hours. Funniest scene in the game was him walking into the living room butt naked after a night of bliss.
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>>102119251
THAT HAND!
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>>102119723
I seriously need to get to F/HA already. What a sweetie.
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>>102124832
>The final route is almost always the best route in VNs with enforced playing order.
Tell that to fucking Duel Savior. I am not counting the extra route of the remake.
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>>102122468
Sounds like retarded forced drama, I'm glad Nasu scrapped that idea.
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>>102128047
In HF's normal end Sakura goes full neckbeard and doesn't even leave the house until she dies as a lonely old woman.
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>>102127937
If this shit is so popular, why didn't anyone else tried to translate it yet?
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>>102133711
Because is old as fuck.
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>>102126103
Assassin would have been summoned regardless, since you can literally only summon Hassan when playing by the rules. Gil probably would have been summonable as well; no one was surprised about being able to summon him. Tokiomi only expressed surprise over the fact that guys like Caster were summonable.
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>>102127937
>Validated 74,6%
Another few years I guess.
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So, how are they going to pander to fujoshi this time around?
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>>102125595
They can always just cover the events of the VN, or even better, just adapt the manga, since I don't think you can get better as an adaptation than that - though, I guess they can improve on the Sacchin part.
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>>102133645
can someone tell me who the fuck is this?
does he do reviews or something?
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>>102137530
A site called Fiver lets people do small jobs for...$5.

That guy will read a text for you, for $5. Anything.

4chan found him. You can guess the rest.
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>>102137731
Say what you will, but that guy has earned every damn cent of it too.

He gets into everything he reads, even stupid shit.
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>>102137826
Is there any video of him readin stupid shit for 4Chan?
Please, tell made you made him read some eroge H-Scene script.
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>>102137941
Just look up Tyrone and Rog on youtube, there's dozens of videos of them reading shit like copypasta, animu memes, that shit from the Dark Knight that gets people banned on /tv/, etc.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gdsdqu5XWI
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>>102137941
He read a bunch of lines from the dark night and some "welcome to tumblr, have you checked your privelege today" copy pasta so if you like /tv/ or /pol/ meme's there's at least that in terms of 4chan related things.
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>>102137826
>You can guess the rest.
>myreaction.jpg
I think it's brilliant, it's cheap but i imagine he gets good money since 4chan found him.
Does he record it on first go, since there's a .gif of him laughing?
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>>102119359
>Implying people shine in their grandpa's basement.
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>>102138119
He's probably laughing because the script told him to.

There's one video where he literally says:
"Kandy? FEMALE?"

And spends over a minute laughing.
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>>102128436
Never, Taiga has no popularity.
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>>102122468
I always thought F/Z is good only because Nasu kept this retard in check.
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>>102122835
And thus she truly became a Matou.
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>>102122262
>>102122362

But Kerrytugu WAS A HERO

he saved mankind
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>>102140023
By killing his waifu and daughteru and allowing Kirei to kill thousands of people?
The only thing he did right was die and leave Shirou with his autistic dream of becoming a Power Ranger. If he wouldn´t had putted such thoughts into his innocent mind, he would had never saved Fuyuki from the Grial.
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>>102140124

>It's fine to leave the world at the hands of evil scum just because someone killed my waifu & daughteru
>Kids dreaming of becoming rangers at one point HALARIOUS

Please An Hero

Now
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>>102140360
What the fuck are you talking about?
I suppose you don´t even know what you are talking about because nothing of what you said makes sense.
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>>102140124
Well...he thought he was being heroic when he destroyed the grail because it was evil.
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>>102141118
The problem with Kiritsugu was that his intentions were the best but even so his actions rarely led to happy endings.
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>>102141190

Heroes don't care about themselves

They do the job to save humanity
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>>102142296
But Kiritsgu didn´t saved anyone but Shirou...though it wasn´t his fault since the fucking Einzberns were way too stupid to say " Take care with the Grial, by the way. We tried to summon Satan in the last war and it may be a little corrupted...If I were you, I wouldn´t try to destroy it or damage it in any way or bad shit will happen."
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>>102119251
Saber will suck doesn't she?
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Favorite F/SN tracks?

Mine are EMIYA, Ever Present Feeling, Sorrow, New Dawn, and All the Evils of the World.
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>>102142709
I started typing out my favorites and then read the rest of your post. They're exactly the same.
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>>102142709
>No Embrace.

Disgusting.
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... Alright then.
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>>102145767

How the fuck do i not remember this.
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>>102147870
I believe that's the flash back she has while sitting in the under croft of the church, or whatever you want to call it. About midway through the route, maybe?
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>>102148086

Well damn. Time to revisit the route.
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>>102148254
It's not long after Archer's betrayal.
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F/HA vita version soon.

Glad I put off reading the original vers, gonna be good to have voices for it. Who else is gonna be reading it?
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>>102149279
I can't into moon. I wonder how hard porting the voices over to the original would be?
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>>102149519
Considering the Vita hasn't been hacked, their only option would be to record all the voices individually.
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>>102149656
Then I'm counting on you to get this done, anon. Please don't let us down.
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>>102125989
Shirou does look pasted on. He kind of ruins the depth that Excalibur's swirly effects are giving
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>>102149519
It'll be faster for you to learn moon.

Actually, never mind just porting the voices, you can learn moon before the 100% F/HA patch is out. I've learned enough from when it was around 56-60% or something like that.
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>>102149656
You wouldn't necessarily need to hack the PSV per say.
You would however need to dump the game from the card, and break that encryption. Which hasn't been done either to the best of my knowledge.

But it's a different beast to tackle from reverse-engineering the machine itself.
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>>102119680
It looks more as if he wears his pants pulled down like a gangster.
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>>102125695
She flat out says somewhere that her opinion to technology is unusually lax compared to a typical magi. She said she likes it if it makes her life easier.
It probably has a lot to do with Kirei's influence though, and the influence of other youths considering that Rin chose to undergo normal schooling and has thus interacted far more with normal people than most magi.

I got the impression that she isn't that into technology, but that she doesn't have much against it. Which is odd for a magus.
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>>102150063
I actually did start a month ago. Learned the katakana and hiragana within a week, but I kind of slacked off after that. Haven't done anything for the past two weeks. I don't own a vita regardless.
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>>102132980
The way Mia and her brother had the voices of Sakura and Shirou respectively kept cracking me up throughout the entire thing.

Great voice work though, I liked it.
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>>102150419
Well, keep at it anon. Even do 30 mins to an hour a day, just as long as it becomes a habit to do a little bit of studying every day. Being able to read any VN you think looks interesting really does make it worth the effort.
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>>102150575
I know. Kanji just looks like such a hard task to hit compared to the basic symbols or syllables, or whatever the proper term would be. I really need to set up a time everyday to do what you suggest. Tired of waiting on translations.
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Wait, so this is gonna be a mash-up of the routes?
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>>102150932
Probably.
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>>102122835
Being Matou is suffering
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>>102150932
>>102155262
Nothing is known at this point.
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>>102155429
socrates pls go
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>>102150932
I hope so. I want to see Seiba in late game HF. That would be neat.
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>>102155474
That would be terrible.
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>>102155624
Says you.
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>>102122835
Why is the Matou family so beta?
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>>102142709
How can you not include Sword of Promised Victory
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>>102124832
HF end > UBW > HF everything else > Fate
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>>102156661
>HF everything else > Fate
>HF everything else
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>>102156661
HF's end was shit, try again.
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>>102156661
Who separates parts of routes like this?

>>102157539
The ending was about the only interesting part of HF.
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>>102157539
>My opinion is shit
ftfy
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>>102157892
Not him, but it's because the end of HF is just so above everything else in the VN.
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>>102157892
>The ending was about the only interesting part of HF.
Wrong. Kotomine was the only interesting part of HF. Everything else was garbage.
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>>102158023
How? It was like a wimpier UBW Good End.
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>>102158023
I'm surprised people can make it through the VN if the ending of the last route is the only redeeming part of it.

>>102158032
Kotomine is front and center in the ending, so not sure why you would separate him from it. If Kotomine is supposedly good, then so would the ending simply by his presence.
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>>102157609
>>102157892
>>102157977
>Liking the ending where the main character survives through the biggest ass-pull imaginable and the magic of true love and shitty writing.
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>>102158294
Never said that I didn't enjoy the rest of the VN too.
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>>102158294
Kotomine himself is good. I didn't enjoy any other part of it.
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>>102158345
Ah, so you just weren't paying attention then.
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>>102158345
>>102158436
Here we fucking go.

People can think one ending or another is shit without it being a factual dispute.
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>>102150419
>slacked off after that
Do it like Kotomine.
Put more effort into the task, focus yourself completely on learning it.
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>>102121756
>Breasts
>Dat knee
Almost fapped.
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>>102159892
All of her proportions are poor. The artist really needs to do more studying in that regard.
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>>102122624
No you piece of shit they've said no such thing. They have given no information on which route their doing, only that Nasu is on board to write some extra content, probably stuff that happened in the routes but is not explicitly show, as Fate/Stay Night does not have enough third person content to fit Ufotable's style. There is no reason to believe that Ufotable would be dumb enough to understand that you can't combine the routes, or that they would want to make an anime original one.
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>>102155429
We know that they want to appeal to all the fans. And we know that not any one route has been confirmed.
That we know.

Expect elements of all of them.
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>>102119359
What is she even eating?
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>>102165873
Worms.



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