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What if Krillin was the one to take out Frieza via solar flare plus kienzan? How would the rest of Dragon Ball go?
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>>102117257
Even half of Frieza would have been able to kill poor Krillian. Also there are much better scans out for that part of Dragon Ball.
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>>102117257
Being cut in half by the destructo disk wouldn't have actually killed Frieza, though. Or would it? I forget if he would have actually died outright if Goku hadn't saved him, or if that was just giving him a chance to escape. Well, considering getting blown up afterward wasn't even enough to finish the job, I'm going to go with the latter.

I don't know if he would have been able to transform in that state, however. Would have made subsequent fights a lot easier. Krillin either would have died sooner or not at all. If not at all, no SSJ on Namek. Beyond that, I think the kids would still have achieved SSJ eventually considering how easy it becomes in later generations. With that in mind, Vegeta would have still witnessed Future Trunks as a Super Saiyan which means he still might have forced himself to reach that level.

So the main difference is that Goku wouldn't have been as powerful during the Cell Saga and would have had to make up the difference somehow if he were going to play his role. Worst case scenario, Cell wins everyone dies. Best case scenario, Gohan goes SSJ2 sooner and Cell dies sooner.
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>>102118016
Oh, forgot to mention, if Frieza still kills Krillin afterward, either Goku arrives and goes SSJ immediately upon arrival (especially if this means Piccolo, Gohan, and Vegeta also die) or he arrives and kills Frieza without the need of going SSJ.
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>>102118132
OH! One more possibility! Getting cut in half might piss Frieza off to the point where he decides to destroy the planet sooner (if he still has enough energy to do so) which would amount in a complete wipe of the Z fighters, unless one of them could counter the attack and save Namek.

I can't think of what difference it would make if Namek is destroyed or not, besides the ride home being a lot longer with a functioning ship.
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>>102118016
>goku too weak
>he dies just after taking gohan to safety on a random planet
>goku goes and dicks around in the afterlife
>cell starts masturbating or something fuck whatever the fuck he wanted to do after winning the superbowl
>now gohan is the main character
>chichi is no longer the shit shitty mother ruining his life by making him a nolife nerd with a shitty dead-end teaching career
>bitch is in hell being an annoying sack of shit man fuck that whore
>gohan gets swole
>vengeance arc
>more stupid dragonball DEM shit to bring back earth again or some fucking bullshit
>only chichi can't come back because she's stuck in some devils asshole or some shit fuck her
>gohan evolves in brohan and goes on adventures being a boss with his friends and bros
>fuck chichi
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>>102119683
>fuck chichi
That can be arranged.
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>>102119683
>>chichi is no longer the shit shitty mother ruining his life by making him a nolife nerd with a shitty dead-end teaching career

Notthisshitagain.jpg

While Chichi home-schooled Gohan until he was 16, becoming a scholar was Gohan's own goal.

Only the DBZ anime filler made her out to the the ultra turbo bitch who was constantly worrying about Gohan finishing his studies. By the beginning of the Buu Arc, she didn't even give a shit if he missed school and encouraged him to skip it to take part in the fighting tournament, with Goku, to make money.

Even Goku himself stated at the very beginning of the the Saiyan arc that Gohan, while having a lot of potential for fight, had no real interest in it, since he was more interested in academics.
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>>102119683

You do realize Gohan himself wanted to become a scholar, because he didn't like fighting, don't you?

Even after Piccolo trains him and all the shit he went through on Namek, then on Earth, with the Androids and ultimately Cell, he was still a pacifist that didn't want to fight seriously.

Being forced to become a Super Saiyan 2 didn't do shit but make him sadist that wanted to see his opponents suffer. After getting his dad killed he went right back to not giving a shit about fighting and regretted acting that way. It's a fucking no brainer Gohan would still be a pussy regardless of what influences he had, this is considering he was well aware his father was a great warrior, along with training with him and Piccolo for years.
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>>102120052
Is that back talk I hear?
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>>102120236

Sup child-abuse filler?
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>>102120221
>Even after Piccolo trains him and all the shit he went through on Namek, then on Earth, with the Androids and ultimately Cell, he was still a NEEEERD
FTFY
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>>102120236
>>102120291

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CD0RzBv_yuU
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>>102120221
still the strongest character in dbz after the supreme kai training what a beast

kid buu probably woulda been quick work for ssj3 goku + ssj2 vegeta + powered up gohan
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Mai waifu is perfect.
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>>102120456
>still the strongest character in dbz after the supreme kai training what a beast

No one is denying that. I'm just stick of all the delusional faggots who think Gohan would have been some unchained edgy badass had he not wanted to be a scholar.
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>>102120487
CELL WENT SSJ BECAUSE OF THE SAIYAN CELLS IN HIS BODY YOU CAN TELL BY HIS GOLDEN AURA
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>>102120500

Because Gohanfags and their daddy issues.
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>>102120500
If the way he fucked with Cell was any indication he got the edgy part down. Are you suggesting he'd still have wanted to become a scholar had his parents never introduced him to it? If he'd have wandered around doing nothing but training and fighting his entire childhood like Goku, or was pushed into rigorous martial training and military service like Vegeta from an early age, he'd still have come across a dictionary and been like "HOLY SHIT I LOVE THIS! This. This is what I want to define me."
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>>102119683
>>gohan gets swole

i laughed
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>>102120500
edgefactor or not he coulda been stronger than goku if he had to be, so gohan definitely coulda taken center stage and done everything goku did
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>>102120388
>someone else knowing weeklytubeshow
Rad.
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>>102120727

Since the Saiyans and Frieza sagas it was hinted he had a "special power" and that he could surpass his father because sayan+human was like a hax genetics.

Goten and Trunks were not even in Toriyama's head then.
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>>102120388

>that's the power of the chupacabra

lel
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>>102120623
>Are you suggesting he'd still have wanted to become a scholar had his parents never introduced him to it? If he'd have wandered around doing nothing but training and fighting his entire childhood like Goku, or was pushed into rigorous martial training and military service like Vegeta from an early age, he'd still have come across a dictionary and been like "HOLY SHIT I LOVE THIS! This. This is what I want to define me."

I'm not suggesting shit.

Goku flat out states that Gohan doesn't like fighting, that's a big part of Gohan's personality. It's Goku, so you know he could tell his kids potential and tried to help him develop it. When push came to shove, Gohan eventually fought, but he was generally forced into it.

Hell, he didn't even come to enjoy training until AFTER getting back from Namek, but that was mainly because he was spending time with both his father and Piccolo in preparation for the Androids.

If we're going by this hypothetical Gohan you're talking about, he would have just emulated his father and still ended up going down the road of a scholar, if not becoming a more smarter/technical fighter like Piccolo, since he had an aptitude for academics, despite his potential.

If he did nothing but training with Goku, it's highly likely he would have grew bored of it, since, by nature, Gohan is a gentle soul, but most importantly, because his power would have eclipsed Goku's sooner and would be loss as to how to improve himself.
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>>102120857
yup, but even they got "legendary" (haha) super saiyan status at like 8 so even though they don't have any feats to back it up (aside from those as Gotenks) maybe they could have been at least Gohan level too. In a GT that makes more sense with DBZ canon Gohan and Trunks would probably have been major powerhouses.
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>>102120727
>edgefactor or not he coulda been stronger than goku if he had to be, so gohan definitely coulda taken center stage and done everything goku did

Why are people so obsessed with Gohan taking center stage? The guy loved and respected his father and Piccolo and just playing the hero was all he cared about, hence the whole Great Saiyaman ordeal. Being an actual hero and savior were things he never showed a genuine interest in outside of helping the weak.
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>>102121060
>gohan and trunks
meant
>goten and trunks
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>>102121084
We were talking about a hypothetical situation here where Goku wasn't in the picture. It's just a fact that Gohan would have been capable of taking over if he had been forced to.
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>>102121140
Thinking about it now though, if you consider the history of trunks to be canon, Gohan may never have been pushed to his potential like he was when fighting cell and buu.
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>>102121011
>Goku flat out states that Gohan doesn't like fighting, that's a big part of Gohan's personality. It's Goku, so you know he could tell his kids potential and tried to help him develop it. When push came to shove, Gohan eventually fought, but he was generally forced into it.
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>Hell, he didn't even come to enjoy training until AFTER getting back from Namek, but that was mainly because he was spending time with both his father and Piccolo in preparation for the Androids.
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>If we're going by this hypothetical Gohan you're talking about, he would have just emulated his father and still ended up going down the road of a scholar, if not becoming a more smarter/technical fighter like Piccolo, since he had an aptitude for academics, despite his potential.

This so fucking much.

Even the most bad ass Gohan(s) (Mirai Gohan and Ultimate Gohan) despite their power and influence only wish to emulate their father Goku, in being heroic. The power that comes with it doesn't change them.

You can see through Mirai Trunks that Mirai Gohan was still a polite dork when he wasn't training him, since Trunks is well-mannered.

And despite being a dork, Ultimate Gohan is still the strongest non-fused character in DB lore, ignoring the new movie.
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>>102121140
>We were talking about a hypothetical situation here where Goku wasn't in the picture.

I don't get what you're arguing. Without Goku around, Gohan still wanted to be a hero like his dad, see Future Gohan in Future Trunks' timeline.

His personality wouldn't have changed unless both his parents were killed and he didn't have any positive influences growing up.

Even then, I still don't see Gohan as the type to dillengent work to unlock and perfect his hidden potential, because, at his core, Son Gohan is a still a nerd.
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>>102121208
>history of trunks to be canon

While the filler added to the anime version isn't canon, it's based on an extra chapter of the manga, so that Gohan is canon.
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I would have liked a generational DBZ.

Who knows, we might have had DBZ to this day if editors and readers hadn't bugged Toriyama to keep writing with Goku as MC forever.
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>>102121311
I don't see what YOU'RE arguing. I'm just stating facts that back up the idea that if Gohan had to train to protect earth from everything that Goku did he might have been able to do it. And he would if he had to protect people, as he showed against Cell.

>>102119683
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Piccolo became almost completely worthless after he failed to beat 17.
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>>102121353
I remember reading somewhere that Toriyama wanted DBZ to be more of Gohan's story, and that the cell saga was the culmination of that. I don't know if the source on that was reliable but it makes sense.
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>>102121353
>Who knows, we might have had DBZ to this day if editors and readers hadn't bugged Toriyama to keep writing with Goku as MC forever.

Why does this stupid myth still persist? No one forced Toriyama to make Goku the main character. It's due to Toriyama realizing that Gohan wasn't fit for the role and changing his mind.

As a character, Japan loved Gohan thorough the Cell arc and well into Majin Buu. I recall him being ranked first at the height of the Cell Games. It's the fact that Gohan got a free power up pulled out of his ass, while literally sitting on his ass doing nothing that the nips started to hate him, compared to Goku who trained his ass off in the afterlife and Vegeta who trained his ass off on Earth.

Considering the shit with Trunks and Goten becoming Super Saiyans like nothing, then Fusion and finally SSJ3 Gotenks, the nips got sick of Toriyama handing out the power up to the kids, thus Gohan dropped in the rankings. I don't even think Gohan himself made the top five in the last poll, while Gotenks AND that shit Kid Trunks made it in.
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>>102121495
>Piccolo talking to himself

sounds about right
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>>102121353
It would have been about the Son family's adventures, each one's powers changing based on their humanity, given that that was the explanation for Vegeta and Goku's sons being able to go SS much easier.

And then the modern day Son would be a human on a quest to wish himself and his friends as saiyans or something, ties in with that DBZ MMO where you can do that.
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>>102121542
>literally sitting on his ass doing nothing

really now
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>>102121495

Any non-saiyan basically becomes fodder after early Cell saga.
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>>102121542
>>102121541
>>102121353

If you're a DBZ you should educate yourself on this. It's a stupid fan rumor like Toriyama being forced to continue DBZ, when he literally did it to indulge the fans.

http://www.kanzenshuu.com/intended-end/
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>>102121601
>really now

Are you denying the Old Kai's technique for unlocking Gohan's hidden power didn't involve Gohan sitting on his ass?
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>>102121619
>cell
>control F Gohan
>0 results
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>>102121008
>>102120802

I miss Weekly Tube Show's DBZ parodies. Unlike TFS' current DBZ Abridged, they were actually funny.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MqfNNuQLIWI
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>>102121707

>Being this fucking stupid

Cell is at the sixth image at the bottom the page.
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>>102121752
>actually funny
>that video
Pick one.
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>>102118016
>>102118132
>>102118257
Does no one else have any theories on the subject of "What if Frieza had been cut in half by Krillin's kienzan in his second form?"
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>>102121666
I guess I'll give you that one, I thought you were referring to SSJ2 for a second. Gohan's powerup against Buu was definitely more hamfisted, but it made just enough sense given the other instances of him unlocking some uber power that nobody else had.
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>>102121437
>I'm just stating facts that back up the idea that if Gohan had to train to protect earth from everything that Goku did he might have been able to do it.

You're not really stating facts though. You're just trying to use your hypothetical Gohan while ignoring the character's personality, actions and everything that YOU don't like. That's not an argument at all.
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>>102121807
>Pick one.

It's funnier than the last 5 episodes of DBZ Abridged easily.
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>>102121752
Your sense of humor is vastly different from mine. I enjoyed the latest DBZ Abridged episodes and don't find these Tube Show things all that funny.
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>>102121808
From the page for Buu:

>Akira Toriyama: I intended to put Gohan into the leading role. It didn’t work out. I felt that compared to Goku, he was ultimately not suited for the part.

So Toriyama only let Goku keep the lead to indulge fans, while also making Gohan the strongest non fusion character. Confirmed
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>>102121901
Yeah, nah.
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>>102121855
You're right, earth would have been destroyed because Gohan was too busying studying to fight Cell and Buu.
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>>102121810
>Does no one else have any theories on the subject of "What if Frieza had been cut in half by Krillin's kienzan in his second form?"

It's not really a theory at all, considering it's based on a shitty joke from DBZ Abrdiged. Which is stupid fucking joke consider the situation that make it possible for Krillin to two-shot Freeza is based off filler from the anime.

In the manga the scene where Krillin is chased by Freeza isn't there, plus the set up for the Solar Flare/Taiyouken+Ki En Zan is impossible since Krillin can't use the techniques in rapid succession, along with the fact that he originally blinds Freeza so Vegeta could get a hit in.
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>>102121901
>>102121752

DBZ Abridged hit it's stride at the end of the first season. It's been shit since then. The only thing that made the first season and the beginning of the second is Ghost Nappa.

The shitty HURR DURR KRILLIAN OWNED COUNT and NEEERRRRDDD jokes were tired before the got to Namek.
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>>102122036
Krillin cut off Frieza's tail. If that had been his head...
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>>102122036
So you dismiss the premise primarily based on your dislike of a parody show.

As for your reasons of why it couldn't/didn't happen, I think you're missing the point of the "WHAT IF" factor. It's okay, you seem like an unimaginative tool anyway, so anything you would have to say on the matter would probably have been boring and uninteresting.
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>>102121752

It's a shame that he stopped doing parodies. It's also stupid as fuck DBZAbridged niggers spam his channel when he fucking does voices WITH TFS.

It's the complete lack of people with the ability to improv is what killed DBZm they just use the same shitty jokes over and over again, without thinking of the process of if the shit is actually funny.

Unlike with that clusterfuck that was YGO Abridged, they don't have an ridiculous premise to draw from to the point where they started playing the parodies straight.
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>>102122186
>As for your reasons of why it couldn't/didn't happen, I think you're missing the point of the "WHAT IF" factor. It's okay, you seem like an unimaginative tool anyway, so anything you would have to say on the matter would probably have been boring and uninteresting.

He also pointed out that in canon Kuririn couldn't use his techniques like that, but go ahead and nitpick.

I think it's a stupid scenario since it assumes that Freeza would somehow be incapacitated, when people seem to ignore the fact that Freeza, while cut in half, survived in the vaccum of space, in middle of NAMEK BLOWING UP IN HIS FUCKING FACE, yet was still alive long enough to be recovered by King Kold.

Also, in DBZ fashion. It feels like Freeza would have just transformed, despite being cut in half and still changed into his final force, while ignoring the damage, the way he did between forms after Krillin cuts off his tail originally. Bullshit, I know. But it seems like in the scope of how powerups go in DBZ.
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>>102122186
>So you dismiss the premise primarily based on your dislike of a parody show.

I dismiss it because it's a stupid as fuck "What If" scenario that relies too much on the aforementioned shitty joke, which shows you didn't even give enough shit to look at the source material to see why it wouldn't have been possible even in a "What If" scenario.
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>>102117257

No change, because I'm sure Frieza would have recovered from the damage by switching forms. I remember him getting his tail be after switching to his next form.

It just would have meant Krillin, Gohan and Vegeta would have gotten killed sooner and Piccolo would have gotten raped the moment he showed up to make the save.
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>>102122386
>He also pointed out that in canon Kuririn couldn't use his techniques like that
I don't think he ever said that. He just didn't, because plot.

>Freeza, while cut in half, survived in the vaccum of space
That's impressive, but I doubt that Frieza could survive, never mind act as a threat, in the form of a decapitated head.
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>>102117257
>What if Krillin was the one to take out Frieza via solar flare plus kienzan?

i don't think he can use the techs like that. taiyouken alone locks in in place for a while, while the kienzan has a long charge up.
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>>102121495

he still has that cool part in the Buu saga where he tries to lock Majin Buu in the time chamber

it was the first time a DBZ character tried to win a battle without fighting and then Buu asspulls his way creating a dimensional hole or whatever that was
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>>102122552
>I don't think he ever said that. He just didn't, because plot.

I'm pretty sure Kuririn, like Tenshinhan and Goku gets stuck in place momentarily when they use Taiyouken.

Even when Cell used it later it could only be used as a distraction. The Kienzan takes a while to charge up. Even ignoring Freeza's inability to sense ki, Freeza would have recovered in the time it takes to throw another; hell, he was able to do so, despite Kuririn using that improved version of the Kienzan that splits.

Now you'd have an argument if he had Gohan learn/use Taiyouken while he tag-teamed and did Kienzan.

It's just the nature of the techniques that make them impossible to spam the that way.

>That's impressive, but I doubt that Frieza could survive, never mind act as a threat, in the form of a decapitated head.

We don't really know much any Freeza's family's physiology, but from what we've seen they're resilient as fuck. Even decapitated I don't think they would die instantly.

Also, you have to remember Freeza, after bummin energy from Son Goku and trying to betray him was hit head-on by a ki blast enough to leave a big ass crater and still survived that shit as half a body, then the whole planet blowing up. I'd like to believe even as a head he'd survive longer than someone like Piccolo.

Hell, the fact that perfect Cell was able to regenerate from Son Goku's 'Warp Kamehame ha", despite losing his upper body, head and all, is likely due to Cell having Freeza's cells.
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>>102122232
>It's the complete lack of people with the ability to improv is what killed DBZm they just use the same shitty jokes over and over again, without thinking of the process of if the shit is actually funny.

That and they don't give a shit about being funny. Fanfags are going to love them regardless of how shitty their release is.
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>>102121955
>So Toriyama only let Goku keep the lead to indulge fans, while also making Gohan the strongest non fusion character. Confirmed

More like Toriyama saw how Japan shittied on Gohan being 'himself', being a dork and having fun slice of life high school adventures and realized that the nips are too stupid to understand Gohan's character and brought Goku back.
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>>102121942
>>102121901

I enjoy both. I love WTS' videos more, since you can tell he's actually having fun with them, instead of turning it into a vehicle to make fun of the fans of DBZ, like TFS has done to DBZ Abridged.

DBZ Abridged should have ended at Namek, everything after just doesn't do anything for me, though, even at its worst it's still better than Yu-Gi-Oh! Abridged.
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>>102122977
>More like Toriyama saw how Japan shittied on Gohan being 'himself', being a dork and having fun slice of life high school adventures and realized that the nips are too stupid to understand Gohan's character and brought Goku back.

Japan's shit taste strikes again. That said, I'd imagine there were people who grew up with Son Goku as the hero, in the 80s, even when Gohan comes in during the second series it never feels like he's nothing more than a walking asspull, who hates to fight.

Gohan being meek is 100% the reason why the character ultimately didn't live up the Japan's expectations as the main character of Dragon Ball. It also hurt that going took center stage literally at the cost of Son Goku's life; for long-time fans of the series (AKA everywhere in the world that saw the original Dragon Ball BEFORE DBZ), seeing the main character killed off like that must have been a kick in the balls.
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>>102121060
The series was suppose to end after cell, with Gohan becoming the new hero or something.

but nooooo, it was mah goku.
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>>102123545
>The series was suppose to end after cell

No it wasn't. That's almost as delusional as the people who said it was supposed to end after Namek.

During Dragonball's original run, Roshi tells you the story will continue a while longer during the time-skip and this was still with Gohan as the main character.

It's just that the nips hated Gohan for being a non-fighting piece of shit in a series where fighting was half the focus, when it abandoned the adventure and comedy.
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>>102123059
>I love WTS' videos more, since you can tell he's actually having fun with them, instead of turning it into a vehicle to make fun of the fans of DBZ, like TFS has done to DBZ Abridged.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JGrJCn2dr-c
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>>102123059
>>102123734

DBZ Abridged is still good, but it definitely feels like the don't care about doing it as much anymore.

I also enjoyed WeeklyTubeShow parodies, but more for the fact that he made fun of himself and the jokes themselves, instead of just vomitting out the same punchlines over and over, ad-nauseam like TFS does.
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>>102123823
>WeeklyTubeShow

Rape Man, Fist of the Northstar and DBZ, all of his parodies are good. It's too bad Ina and Remix aren't doing parodies anymore.
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>>102118016
Why can't he throw it sideways so it cuts him in half straight down the middle?
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>>102117858
given how he had already jumped, and THEN had to backflip to avoid getting sliced, the kienzan was probably aimed at chest level.
That's a pure killshot because it would cut through his heart (presuming he has one) but also sever his arms completely, as well as his abdomen and legs.
Frieza's head, pecs, and shoulder would be all that's left
>>102117257
Vegeta would have to be dealt with because, with piccolo back, the dragon balls would be back on earth, and with frieza dead, Vegeta has nothing keeping him on Namek.
He would leave immediately, hoping to beat the Z crew back to earth.
Of course, they would then use Shenlong to revive everyone and then use the remaining porunga wish to send the z fighters back to earth with plenty of time to train until Vegeta arrives. Vegeta lands only to find that the balls are still dormant due to the wish.
Vegeta, still massively outclassed by Goku stays on earth for the dragon balls revive.
Vegeta has a rematch with Goku. Goku, now much stronger than on namek, eventually goes Super Saiyan. Vegeta must become a super saiyan in order to beat Goku.
King Cold arrives, Vegeta fights him, becoming a super saiyan. Trunks arrives but stays out of the fight so Vegeta can become a SS.
Goku never learned to teleport.
since Vegeta becomes a super saiyan earlier, he continuously fought with Goku, both of them become much stronger before the androids show, and Vegeta faces the androids with the rest, instead of waiting until Goku was nearly dead.
Gero never gets the chance to activate the others. Cell never becomes perfect. Goku lives, and raises Goten and Gohan for years. By the time Buu arrives, no one has reached SS2, but they're base power is comparable to the end of the buu saga.
Vegeta doesn't become Majin because he's now coped with having Goku as his rival. They've fought for years are more like they were at the end of z.
When Buu arives, they learn to fuse, and Gogeta saves everybody.
Uub is never born.
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>>102121955
I think what he meant by that was that as he started writing Gohan, he realized that the character just wasn't the TYPE to be the lead.
Really, the cell fight showed exactly that. Gohan's character just isn't the same as Goku's, and you shouldn't push him to do things he doesn't have the heart for.
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>>102123885
You forgot Goku having heart cancer
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>>102122386
>He also pointed out that in canon Kuririn couldn't use his techniques like that, but go ahead and nitpick.
Like I said, you're really missing the point of "WHAT IF" No one is asking if he could, the question is what if he did. It's all hypothetical, so quoting scripture and finger wagging serves no purpose.

Anyway, if he could still transform and even regenerate his entire lower body after being sliced in half, they were screwed.

The very first reply pointed out that it probably wouldn't have done Frieza in. I think it would have at the very least lead Frieza to do a more thorough job of killing Krillin a lot sooner.

>>102122445
I wish you'd remove that massive stick from your ass.

>>102122516
That's a fairly big change, isn't it? Doesn't that mean Goku would have been too late to save everyone? It would have thrown some events out of whack, like Vegeta's near death power up, which was important for him being able to hold off Frieza's final form.
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Piccolo was best dad.
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>>102124346
>That's a fairly big change, isn't it?

That is only assuming Freeza is taken out by Krillin's attack. A lot of what we know about Freeza suggests that it would only end up with him changing sooner and killing everyone present. The only real change is that Freeza killing everyone would happen sooner.
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>>102123885
>Goku, now much stronger than on namek, eventually goes Super Saiyan
Why? Without the emotional component, I didn't think full blooded Saiyans could just train to SSJ. Even Vegeta had some sort of breakdown before he turned SSJ, no?
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>>102124346
>Like I said, you're really missing the point of "WHAT IF" No one is asking if he could, the question is what if he did. It's all hypothetical, so quoting scripture and finger wagging serves no purpose.
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>Anyway, if he could still transform and even regenerate his entire lower body after being sliced in half, they were screwed.
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>The very first reply pointed out that it probably wouldn't have done Frieza in. I think it would have at the very least lead Frieza to do a more thorough job of killing Krillin a lot sooner.

I'm not missing the point, you're ignoring how the techniques in DBZ works. That's part of why the other guy questioned this thread already.

Following your logic, they could just finish Freeza off with another Solar Flare/Destructo Disk, since there would be no way for him to counter it. I'm all for What If scenarios when they respect the ebb and flow of what they're based off of.

You have to consider that Freeza, even with losing his tail was able to quickly dodge the rest of Krillin's attacks. I'd assume if he did land the first Destructo Disk, got cut in half, he would have still be strong enough to kill Gohan, Krillin and even Vegeta with eye-beams as a head.

Even if he couldn't regenerate his body he would have been more than enough to kill everyone present, since, at the point, he was just playing around with them.
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>>102124646
>You have to consider that Freeza, even with losing his tail was able to quickly dodge the rest of Krillin's attacks. I'd assume if he did land the first Destructo Disk, got cut in half, he would have still be strong enough to kill Gohan, Krillin and even Vegeta with eye-beams as a head.

Haha. Toriyama is just the type of author to have a story end like that.

Piccolo and Goku make it to battlefield only the find the corpses of Vegeta, Gohan, Krillin and Frieza's head.
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>>102117257
If that happened then Vegetas inferiority complex would be directed at Krillin.
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>>102125117
>If that happened then Vegetas inferiority complex would be directed at Krillin.

That would be fitting considering prior to the fan outcry, Toriyama was going to originally have Vegeta killed off on Earth by Krillin.
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>>102125117
Impossible.

He'd write off Freeza as an idiot who got killed by a weakling, out of carelessness.
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>>102122977
>how Japan shittied on Gohan being 'himself', being a dork and having fun slice of life high school adventures and realized that the nips are too stupid to understand Gohan's character
Teenage goofy Gohan was my favorite thing in the series. Him teaching Videl how to fly was the best part in all of Dragonball.



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