ITT people tell me why they aren't fans of Vento Aureo and I explain why they're wrong idiot morons
only for you bby
It's a major drop in quality after Part4, that's for sure. Not right of the bat though, it starts out good, Giorno and Bruno are promising characters. But it goes to shit around the time Trish is introduced. There starts to become a confusion in what roles the characters play, and they never really evolve. Bruno takes the Jojo and Zeppeli role, while Giorno becomes the healer, cause fuck, every fight should end up in a bloodbath.
Part 5 also has the body switch concept near the end, which is just a terrible idea when you consider that no character except maybe Narancia has a personality that actually stands out.
Also, I can forgive retconning to some extent in Jojo, but Gold Experience getting stabbed by the arrow in the Black Sabbath fight is a really glaring oversight.
I guess Araki was distracted during the time he wrote Vento Aureo, Cause god knows Stone Ocean was great, and SBR was amazing.
>There starts to become a confusion in what roles the characters play,
> they never really evolve.
static characters are not bad
>Bruno takes the Jojo and Zeppeli role, while Giorno becomes the healer
you mean the roles they have from the very start? giorno was never the type to lead from the front, it's a trait he gets from one of his dads
>every fight should end up in a bloodbath.
welcome to jojo, only made worse because now everyone is a gangster and doesn't give a shit about murdering people
>Part 5 also has the body switch concept near the end, which is just a terrible idea when you consider that no character except maybe Narancia has a personality that actually stands out.
This is just untrue
>Also, I can forgive retconning to some extent in Jojo, but Gold Experience getting stabbed by the arrow in the Black Sabbath fight is a really glaring oversight.
This isn't actually a plot hole tho? giorno didn't have the ~anime resolve~ when he was randomly shanked by the arrow by someone else, you gotta do it yourself and need a reason. You want a plot hole, how did jotaro get all the stuff in his cell? This isn't even the closest thing to a plot hole in part 5 (that would be black sabbath standing directly in sunlight when it first appears) idk why everyone complains about this.
I'm not sure how you can talk about extreme curves in quality and then talk about stone ocean being great
I just realized that your "nobody has a personality" issue is most likley because of how fucking awful the current scans are (unless you happen to speak japanese/itallian/I think french?)
>This isn't actually a plot hole tho? giorno didn't have the ~anime resolve~ when he was randomly shanked by the arrow by someone else, you gotta do it yourself and need a reason.
Wow. This is the reasoning of a five year old. And I'm no better for taking it seriously.
I just re-read this part, and Giorno actually reminds himself of his resolve during the fight. At this point he has already been pierced once, and is a few pages away from being pierced again.
I don't think any part of Jojo is bad, OP, but you need to pull your head out of your ass. Fucking disgrace to the fanbase. Please stop letting your opinions be heard.
I just didn't like it. While I liked a lot of the supporting characters like Mista, Narancia, and Bruno, I just thought it was a weak part overall. It seemed like it was just stand of the week really badly. It had some really great villains, though. Pesci and whatever his brother's name was from the train, Ghiaccio, Doppio/Diavolo. Also, I won't lie, but the 7 page muda muda barrage was pertty cool.
Part 5 > Part 8
there's a difference between ~resolve~ and ~anime resolve~
>This is just untrue
How about you actually give some evidence to support your argument instead of just saying no.
>It seemed like it was just stand of the week really badly.
What did you think of part 3 then?
Gio did nothing. They shoulda called this part Bruno Bruno or Mista Mista or something. It's not uncommon to let the side characters shine but it felt really uneven in this part.
While Part 5 is my personal favorite OP is doing a really bad job at defending it.
I find the Antagonists to be real important in Jojo. Part 3 Dio and Kira were a powerful presence throughout their stories. They had the power and charisma to use people to their advantage, they had confidence and losing was not really an option for them until it was upon them.
Diavolo was a villain that had fear as his main motivation. He feared his daughter as she was a key to finding his true identity. And he ended up bringing the people that would end up killing him to his doorstep because of this fear. Diavolo was a fool, with a even more foolish alter ego, which is why defeating him was not really that much of an accomplishment. There is no gravity to this story compared to any other Jojo story.
I've actually started to quite like Diavolo recently. He's like a hyper-Kira. Only problem is Kira got more development because of the chapters focusing on him, and Diavolo is the victim of one of the most anticlimactic final boss fights ever.
Except that he acted really similarly to how Dio was in part 3, sending out subordinates to kill his enemies and hiding in the shadows most of the time.
I know the final battle was disappointing, but just about all the fights during the story were great, with the train and Green Day and Oasis being some of the series best fights
Not to mention it had some of the coolest Stands like Sticky Fingers, Aerosmith, and though it was hard to understand, King Crimson was a unique one compared to The World's "Freeze Time" that has been done to death, even before the manga (The Naked Gun TV series credits)
>King Crimson was a unique one compared to The World's "Freeze Time" that has been done to death
Unfortunately Araki never really used its mindfucking potential, for the most part it's just used exactly like The World except he can see the future too.
>This is just untrue
I think people were already confused enough as it is when it comes to KC.
And the atmosphere was great, with that ominous and for the most part, sense of isolation that the PS2 game perfectly captured. Especially compared to it's 'ominous" soundtrack compared to the SC fighting game and JJAB's more fast-paced OSts
The ending is what killed it for me.
It was an amazing ride, sure Giorno was a little stale be it the translation or not, every other cast member made up for it. Then they got to the Colosseum and it just ended. It's like after Green Day and Oasis (which was amazing) it was suddenly "oh shit, I forgot, I've got a deadline" and he just scrunched that ending in. While Diavolo could've been a pretty interesting villain out there we don't have any of the buildup like with Kira or Pucci. Doppio was introduced way too late. Diavolo's image is revealed when he just pops out in front of Polnareff and then Requiem goes apeshit, and it's all downhill. And while Rolling Stone was interesting it was an afterthought and those chapters could've been reserved for fleshing out the ending.
Whatever. Maybe when the updated translation is finished people will have a slightly more positive view on it.
While I liked all jojo parts, part 5 is one of my least favorites. Akari should have brought more focus on the fact that Giorno was the son of Dio. The fight scenes were pretty rad though.
What happened to the translation anyway?
The last update was on 2012.
I really like the stands and fights in part 5, I remember being excited when Bruno almost get kill By Peschi.
What I didnt like was how pointless Fugo was, after his "fight" and the scenes with narancia he didnt do too much, I would like prefer that he was a spy from the boss as Araki had planned.
Oh well at least purple haze feedback was cool and gave him a personality
Is Purple Haze Feedback actually in English?
Yep, somebody recently translated it.
Oh, lovely. Thanks.