>learning self-defense in the safest country of the world.
This kind of mentality will lead you to your own downfall.
Martial arts isnt about self-defense you simple fuck, go back to >>>/biz/
>man who enjoys things informed she is wrong.jpg
Say that when I molest you on the train you slut
>safest country of the world.
>this would have been stopped by a single person with a gun
>safest country of the world.
It doesn't mean it's safe, just safer than the others.
>safest country of the world
what the fuck
so we get /pol/+bitcoins but we can't get /his/ because it would just be /pol/ 2.0?
thanks a lot moot
Nippon have glorious katanah instead.
Don't leave us hanging, I know it's gotta be one of the "lands".
Is it Switzerland?
I just checked Wikipedia and they told me it's Monaco. I didn't know there was a Monacese? Monacoian? Monacan? Martial art.
Illegal to carry as well.
>thank god for gun control
Nipponland. Which is right next to, and co-exists with, Rapeland
There is still aikido.
You do have a point there OP. There's no point learning self-defense in Japan if there's nobody trying to nab you of your goods.
would you keep your idiocy in one board please
>Stop punching me, please, grab my wrist instead
Wait, since when was Japan safe?
Since they started falsifying their violence and murder statistics as accidents, suicides, or just leaving cases open.
In aiki, this martial art can deforme the reality of vectors and make the bullets coming back to your opponents. OSU!
Well, there is one martial art better than aiki :
It's one of those haven countries for european money.
Have the bullet jump over you when you joint-lock it?
when they continued to pretend that the yakuza doesn't run half the country.
can't be safe with the demon weed being legal.
I was expecting him to pull out a gun though.
Martial arts are useless for self defense, they only work against someone else also using the same martial art in a controlled environment. However they are good for learning discipline and shit.
Not county shitty microstates like Monaco, Hong Kong and whatever the hell Palau is, Japan has the lowest homicide rates in the world.
Just get a Knife, i always go outside with mine.
It's for the best, a history board would kill the fun of it. I like the threads being once in a blue moon.
again, because they falsify their crime stats a lot.
iirc, they only count crimes they have successfully convicted someone for. in other words, not many of them.
And what if someone pulls a knife on you? Getting in a knifefight is something you seriously don't want to do. You'll be cut up, and possibly bleeding from several arteries before you're done.
Nobody wins in a knifefight.
thats not the swiss
thats not finland
>just think if we replaced knives with slutty clothing
>we'd have a whole country of great lays
gotta protect yourself from the perverts on the train
Then you run for it. I have and probably will again fucking bolted when a knife's been pulled, no shame man, like you said a knife fight has no winners unless you're in an anime. Because in real life even those techniques that supposedly help defend you from a knife don't do shit. I'd honestly rather face a gun, at least when at close range. Though of course neither is good, best bet is to run like fuck when you see one.
holy shit I haven't been to that site in years. time to see if the reaper is still theer
You just run, you use knife if you know that you can stab him first and run, normally you take out your knife for show that you arent gonna be easy, normally most of the back off. The problem are just like you said knife fight and if the other guy have gun. Such a life in central america
Man I went to Switzerland once and everyone was great.
It was like an entire country made of nothing but little old sweet grandmas.
Yeah, just like it happens in USA all the time.
>Then you run for it.
>The other guy is a nigger
actually quite a lot of shootings in the US are stopped by citizens with guns, almost as many as are stopped by police with guns.
Not actually agreeing with anyone, just pointing out some fairly reliable data.
>All shootings happen in gun free zones
>Shootings in non gun free zones are stopped regularly, but left out of the news because it's not a huge tragic event
>learning self-defense in the safest country of the world.
Many people learn "self defense" so that they can bully others with it. It's not self defense as America has proven with its "Department of Defense".
To be fair, most shootings are started by batshit citizens with guns as well.
Nah the adrenaline rush makes you go sanic speeds, I've had my life threatened a couple times and I fucking wished Usain Bolt were around so I could beat his ass in the 100m right then and there. I'm not particularly fit either nor do I have that long legs, most of my 6'1 is in my torso. Muggers/gangbangers are lazy shits, they don't chase unless they're a complete psycho.
This, when someone else pulls out a knife you run or you find a better weapon, such as a chair or pipe or literally anything hard and long.
A knife on knife fight is always retarded a fuck.
If you're a white male Japan feels like a pretty damn safe place to live in
Nigger arent really fast, and if someone want to steal you with a knife, probably is just a crackhead.
Yeah, that's why I don't bother getting into these arguments. There's good and bad arguments for both sides, in the end you should just live somewhere less tolerant of gun ownership if you have a huge problem with it.
>Safest country of the world
Quite the implication to make for molestation-central.
>Nigger arent really fast
Faster than other races, certainly. Some of them atleast. Others are just good at moderate distance running.
most shootings are started by niggers or cops.
>America has proven with its "Department of Defense".
Renaming "Ministry of War" by replacing the word war with an euphemism like "defense" is not an exclusively American thing. Pretty much every country in the world has done it by now.
Well we are literally huge to them. And considering most white males live somewhere that is a lot more dangerous? Yeah, it sure does feel safe compared to what we're used to.
>There's good and bad arguments for both sides
I don't think you can call "muh feels" a good argument. The facts are on the side of the pro-gun people. All the anti-gunners can resort to are emotions, lies and logical fallacies.
Google gives me shit. Sauce please.
The more important question OP is,
why is Judo girl so perfect?
Are there any badass criminals in japan? All the men look skinny and weak, I don't think there are any criminals apart from molesters. Am I right or just ignorant?
Nigga are you serious?
and isnt like you will run a marathon in a racetrack anon, the few time that i have run from guys trying to steal me, all what you need to do is run in the street and try to go where are a lot of people or cars, and the just enter in someone car or enter in a shop, normally people help you and is better if the shop have some guards.
Seitokai Yakuindomo season 2
>you find a better weapon, such as a chair or pipe or literally anything hard and long
You'd be better just running, if you don't knock him out in one hit with the blunt force weapon this is likely to happen:
It is, atleast for strangers. We only stab our friends and axemurder our families when drunk.
yakuzas but most of them are just pimp and drugdealer, they arent really important in the drugworld.
Some actual serious Yakuza are pretty badass, and not in a cool way, in a holy shit please don't kill me way. They will fuck you up in horrible ways if you cross them, and they do own several industries across japan, particularly the sex trade.
What facts? The fact that there's been 50+ shootings in USA and 1 in, for example, Great Britain in last ten years?
The only things dangerous to Finns in Finland, are themselves.
Nipland only has low crime rates because rape, organized crime and pedophilia isn't even illegal.
You mean like the fact that Britain's homicide rate is the same as it was before they banned handguns?
Actually I think it was worse until quite recently. Britain is not a nice place contrary to what a lot of anti-gunners think. 70% of hood rats carry knives and they will use them.
I didn't think yakuzas were that real because we don't see them on the news and streaming sites. Maybe it's because sand niggers steal all the audience with their decapitation skills.
So these yakuzas, they cut people up with katanas and shit?
Yawara is best judo girl.
Exactly. Muh feels. You distort statistics and lie to try to push disarmament. Cause clearly the police will keep you safe.
edify yourself. Self-defense is a human right and a personal responsibility.
And those shootings have killed under 1% of the amount of people that have died in car crashes in the duration of a single year.
Meanwhile the Americans are allowed to defend themselves against criminals, whilst the Brits can't even install barbed wire, or threaten a home intruder with a knife without getting into trouble with the law.
i live in canada and i havent locked my car or house ever. i leave my keys in the ignition too. i dont own a gun.
>jesus they cut off their own fingers, what will they do to us?
It could have stopped by taking a single away a single gun.
They're weird in that they really want to have this public image of being friendly gangsters (IE helping rebuild after disasters, giving out food and clothes to the poor etc) but behind closed doors they do just as much horrifying shit, possibly some worse shit, as drug cartels and the like.
Cutting people up with Katanas probably doesn't happen that much anymore, but you'll get yourself thrown off a building so it looks like suicide if you break a deal with them. Possibly after being beaten, raped etc
Nah, he had multiple.
because they arent important, they just control the sex industry in japan and just a little of the drug deals. The real danger are the Cartels and the MS-13
What conclusion am I supposed to draw from this graphic?
Is this one of the epic troll maymays i've heard so much about?
>Be White/Aztec only south American master race.
>Little brother beats every nigger on his football team in a race and is bigger, faster, and stronger then them.
I'd say it depends on how they operate. The cartels in South America force people to get involved in them, whilst I'm pretty sure the Yakuza don't. I mean, it's your fault if you get involved with the underworld, but you can hardly help if the bus you're on gets captured by cartels and everyone on board shot as an example.
That guns aren't dangerous because other things kill people things too!
>excuse me mister criminal, sir, can you please hand over your weapon? it's illegal to have those!
Congratulations, you live in a safe area. Most of us ITT who are discussing self-defense probably don't. Thanks for the input.
You've never been to Japan aren't you? The Japanese aren't liars unlike your typical shitty nigger president, anon.
That mass shootings aren't really the massive issue that anti-gunners play them out to be. They want to stop these 2.5 million people from defending themselves, because 21 died in a year due to gun free zones.
From the wing which demands that nobody should be treated for anything unless they have a spare $20K lying around, if not more
Man, I'm so glad I don't live in America with these gun nuts.
Criminals usually don't go on killing sprees. Madmen do.
So anyways /pol/, since you're already here, what's your favorite anime? Besides LOGH.
My country is so safe they even ban self-defence experts!
>learning self-defense in the safest country of the world.
How can Japan be one of the safest countries when Detective Conan has shown that just one small sub-city area in Tokyo has hundreds of murders each year? Remember, the past 10 years of Detective Conan episodes has elapsed time of less than one school season in the anime series. Thus, many of those murders and assaults occurred in the space of less than one school season in one area.
I'm the one advocating gun rights most fervently here, and I live in an incredibly safe Finnish town of around 20k people. Even though this place has been ranked the 3rd most violent by population rates, there's absolutely no danger for you.
But this is more /k/ territory, and Upotte is /k/ the anime.
Or so they tell me, I haven't actually watched it
>From the wing which demands that nobody should be treated for anything unless they have a spare $20K lying around, if not more
>C-conservatives are just mean people who hate the poor and want to die
True. However if we go by raw levels of fucked up shit, Russian Mafia are probably the worst bunch, closely followed by those equadorain pricks who as you say can and will kill innocents without hesitation.
That is just Mexico and central america, and maybe Venezuela and Colombia. The south cone is more safe than USA
>lowest reported crimes
I bet japanese women simply don't report rapes, their culture is too much rape-reliant to have so small rations of rape.
>He dont know about the Maras
It's good for you. I've lost count of how many times over the years, it helped me avoid accidents. I can't imagine not knowing how to fall correctly nowadays.
I'm going out on a limb here, but maybe a part of the relatively high suicide rate Japan has is that there are a lot of "suicides" done by various yakuza gangs, which never get counted as murders.
Conversely, in catholic (or otherwise intensely religious) countries a lot of suicides are counted as accidents and unsolved murders.
Banned an ex-military from entering company means he was probably a spy or similar
Oh? I've never even heard of them. Looked them up and they do sound like some fierce shits already just from the first few google results
The solution is simple, just stop selling guns to niggers and hispanics.
>not being able to own guns
Enjoy being robbed 10 times a week and having your house broken into every other day because criminals know that law-abiding citizens can't defend themselves anymore.
America is fucking dumb with it too.
They sell long range rifles in case you see the robbers coming from 800m, semi-automatic rifles, battle rifles, semi-automatic shotguns, .45 handguns, and even ARs designed for laying down suppressive fire.
You only ever need a .306 revolver for any situation of self or home defense, a shotgun has always been overkill but it also works. You don't need an anti-material rifle or crossbow to take out a burglar.
What the fuck's your problem? It is SYD. If you're butthurt about me spoonfeeding that guy, get a life.
But how do you stop Tyrone from selling guns from his trunk to De'Shawn?
LOGH is /vg/'s anime, you can tell because they've poured into the generals here thinking being a tripfag is okay and talking about friends and anime recommendations and linking to off-site forums.
/vg/ might as well be moved to reddit.
So what? Why do you care who has what weapon?
guns are bad.
I was thinking this, but I don't know. The Japanese have created such a miserable culture to live in that I wouldn't be surprised if 'suicides' didn't count for all that much in their suicide stats.
Those weapons aren't for home defence, they're for securing democracy. The only way to reliably keep a government in check is by an armed populace.
Please no bully, if only my dad married a white woman or someone other then a 5'0 spic I would be even more master race.
>compairing first world countries to Clapistan
/pol/ likes Log Horizon?
tranquilo mi mestizo, nunca sera pura raza
No, those are for protecting freedom from commies.
criminals are just law abiding citizens with guns.
I don't have firearms and i haven't been robbed or mugged in my entire life because i dont live in a fucking shithole.
Legends of the Galatic heroes. You know, the classic that every /a/non should have watched?
Not Log horizon. Which is fun and good but really not in the same league.
>The fight was cancelled
Why haven't I been shot already?
I seriously hope you're joking right now
If not, fuck off newshit.
It's the mentality, not the possession. Most gun safes I see are full of semi-automatic rifles and even sometimes fully automatic rifles. If I ask why they need them they'll say it's for home defense when they have no reason to not say "for fun, I enjoy shooting them." or "I just like these weapons."
It's fine to have them, but it's the mentality that everyone wants to be a bad-ass action hero coming in guns blazing.
Muay Thai master-race reporting in
>"I've never had a house fire in my life, so why should I buy a fire extinguisher?"
Typical anti-gun logic. The fact is if you don't own at least two guns (one to keep on your person at all times and one for home defense) you are negligently putting yourself at risk.
That graph is skewed, niggers are more stupid so they're more likely to get caught.
take your insulated community privilege and stuff it, shitlord.
Sorry don't know Spanish I didn't want to learn it and I spent most of my life growing up amongst my dad's white family.
America is literally the definition of a first world country.
Yeah I'm sure you'll be able to stop tanks, drones and IFV with your mighty AR-15
Last I heard it was back on. After the libruls started crying about it DMX pulled out.
A few days later it was back on with someone else
You do know that the literal definition of "first world" is united states and its puppet regimes?
At least you will die a horrible death FREE.
Because things are too good in the first world at this time. Dictatorships never arise from a state of well-being.
>Implying a majority of the US armed forces wouldn't defect and bring massive amounts of ordnance with them
>Implying tanks and IFVs can function if fuel is cut off
>Implying defectors won't bring over AT weapons
>Implying drones can't be incredibly easily shot down with manpads
Oh, that's good to hear.
Because everyone that has scurry semi-automatic rifles with COMBAT CLIPS thinks they are an action hero. Bravo. Maybe these people don't want to tell you they enjoy shooting guns because you're a judgemental fuckhead who thinks owning guns is a sign of mental illness.
Maybe if you use the old, depreciated definition.
murders don't count if they're interesting
You don't need a combat rifle for home-defense. There is no situation where you need a combat rifle for home-defense. It's a bad home-defense weapon.
It is no problem to have them, they make good hunting weapons in fact, but it's bad to have them with that mentality.
>Because things are too good in the first world at this time.
And I need a gun why? Because my country might turn into a dictatorship where owning a rifle will prevent you from getting killed by a tank?
why do humans still produce guns?
Armed populace doesn't necessarily mean an organized and strategic populace though.
So you don't have to murder people by hand.
No sensible person uses a rifle for home defence though, if they have an alternative, that is. Overpenetration and clumsiness are hardly things you want.
>Implying drones can't be incredibly easily shot down with manpads
An MQ-9 Reaper has a ceiling of 18km
A FIM 92 Stinger has an effective range of 5km
I can't find much about the cruising/attack height but if it stays above 4km it should be fine
Because they're better than swords and we haven't invented energy weapons yet.
There is low rates of reporting crime
Policemen fudge the stats by trying to solve local conflicts themselves
Reporting crime is like admitting they have done something horrible and is scandalous so both victims and government dislike it a lot
They have women-only trains for a reason.
>implying the military would fire on its own family
I know we had to answer that we would fire on our own soil if given the order to, but I guarantee you no officer that wasn't a 1 year butterbar would do so, and nobody is going to listen to a butterbar's kill order.
>muh corrupt gubmint
>muh self defense from niggurs
>muh shooting range fredum
Gunfags are so hilarious
Although if I lived in corrupt crime ridden shithole like USA I probably would want a gun or twenty
>stop tanks, drones and IFV
Those goatfuckers with homemade AKs in the middle east sure gave America a hard time.
>US military firing on revolutionaries
You'll get so much defections out the ass. Everyone knows the US Government is complete shit, even the militaryfags.
>And I need a gun why? Because my country might turn into a dictatorship where owning a rifle will prevent you from getting killed by a tank?
>I'd rather take that big governmental dick up my ass than have the ability to fight back
No, but guerilla tactics is where it's at anyways.
All 3 of those "muhs" are valid points though.
>most shootings are started by niggers or cops.
That's been true year after year in my very white suburb american city. As for blacks, many of them commute here on the bus system, do their burglaries of the unpopulated white peoples' houses (the owners are at work), then return back to their slums on the bus at night. At night is when it's particularly dangerous on the buses because if the burglars haven't been able to make a score, they turn to mugging to make up for the bad day's earnings.
That is what I just said previously.
Yes, the soldiers would never fire on innocent civilians
And what's the hip, modern version? Because going by GDP per capita, USA is above almost all European countries, including all the major ones, such as UK, France, Germany and Italy (The four European countries in G8).
>People here thinking a revolutionary movement in America would be like Red Dawn and not Ruby Ridge Pt. 2
top haha :)
In America, sure
Nigger we can't even keep drones up in the air, they fall at the slightest gust of wind.
>only connecting 13
>even the militaryfags.
I think having such a close hand look at US governmental policy would be certain to change opinions.
There is no place without crime, only places with more and places with less.
>Although if I lived in corrupt crime ridden shithole like USA I probably would want a gun or twenty
If I lived in a shithole like USA, I wouldn't get a gun. I'd get a fucking visa.
>i just like these weapons
Most people who have to defend themselves face stress. If you shoot at someone, you will generally miss and miss a lot.
Having many bullets allow you to defend yourself from people inside your home, especially since when a robberies occur in a residence, it will always be a group of people coming in and not just one person.
It's not about being a badass hero.
9mm from handguns can sometimes be stopped by fucking jeans. It's also harder to aim for women because on average, they lack arm strength to keep it aimed at the perpetrators.
A semi-automatic allows the weaker people or average people to overcome greater numbers of assailants.
You own insurance because of that small minute chance you get in trouble everywhere.
Different types of firearms are for different types of situations and they are a form of insurance as well.
Yes, and America is a place with more crime.
>Affording to move away
Then get an M1911, almost everyone I know has one.
You don't need a rifle, far call from a semi-automatic rifle, for self defense in any situation available that is not involving you fighting a military with your own military.
What the fuck? When did Moot create finance board. I thought he was against this idea before.
SHOTGUNS have more penetration than rifles that use home defense rounds, especially hollow points.
I know one thing, Judo is making me want take judo.
>It's also harder to aim for women because on average, they lack arm strength to keep it aimed at the perpetrators.
You do NOT know what people need in all situations.
You don't need a shotgun for home defense either.
A larger mag size is going to come in hand if the invaders were to return fire. 7 rounds is not enough.
>You own insurance because of that small minute chance you get in trouble everywhere.
Everywhere else, we have insurance to cover those things we lose in a robbery.
Why would I want to live in a place with less if I can't even defend myself?
>Nigger we can't even keep drones up in the air, they fall at the slightest gust of wind.
500 people a year killed by drones in 5 years, many of them civilians and children. They have zero problem keeping them up in sandy environments
>confirmed for jackass bitch
More people die from handguns than they do from rifles or shotguns. Astronomically more.
More people drown in pools than they die from rifles or shotguns.
You don't need a swimming pool at home.
I wonder if you're actually retarded or just trolling.
You're seriously going to take the chance that you get killed because they don't want witnesses?
yous mah nigga son
I believe you shouldn't underestimate Aikido. Now I know you may be thinking, "Why take a weakling martial art like Aikido seriously when I am learning Kendo?" I can see why you would think that, how can a peaceful martial arts like Aikido beat a powerful one like Kendo?
Well, I have a story to share with you.
Years ago, I was a Kendoka, I thought I was the toughest kid in high school, I would pick fights, and kick ass. I was full of hate, until I picked a fight with the wrong dude. He was a Japanese exchange student, I still remember his name, Noboru Takeda.
I picked on him because of his hilarious and thick Japanese accent. I told him I was going to beat him so hard, he would go back to China(Yeah, I was a little racist prick.), he never said anything back, made me wanted to kick his ass even harder.
Well, here comes the fight. I threw men and do strikes, he dodged them like I was a mere white belt. I was tiring out and he knew, I saw the smirk on his face that made me raged hard. I put all my strength in one amazing tsuki, and he grabbed past it to my wrist and threw me over. My back smacked on the hard cement ground, and I was knocked out for who knows how long.
When I woke up I was in the school infirmary, I asked the nurse who brought me here, and you guessed it, Noboru Takeda. The next day, he wasn't at school, he was back in Japan, and I never got to thank him, for saving my life and showing me the light. I soon learned that he was an Aikidoka and have been practicing Aikido ever since to show my thanks to him.
I really like Serial Experiments Lain
Though I'm biased since I'm mostly a /g/iant cunt. /a/ seems nice though so I'll lurk some more.
Yeah, we don't actually have that here.
Robbers rob empty apartments. If they have any idea that there's someone there, they'll stay the fuck away.
We lose most of our drones to strong wind currents, storms, and just mechanical failure.
We don't recover them either, it's less expensive to just let them drop where they are.
You know those parents who don't understand how computers work but insist you make theirs work all the time? Those are the people in charge of drone command.
Why would you depict Yunocchi as a filthy Jew?? Why is there no snoop in that wiki picture?
So many wrong things are happening in this one post!
How the fuck would you know what people "need" for home defense?
And a lot of women and old people can't handle shotguns or handguns as well, because of the recoil. It is far easier to defend yourself with a semi-automatic rifle.
Are you some kind of mysoginistic/ageist piece of shit who thinks the weak should not be able to defend themselves?
a .45 handgun will provide all the stopping power you need. You do not need a rifle of any kind in any situation involving self defense.
Yes I am Armstrong.
>taking the chance on anything
If you've studied criminology, you'd know that a lot of the times, criminals never do the "logical" thing.
>this sounds suspiciously like a chinese comic I read
You don't need anything, really.
You don't need to live if you don't want to.
Why is she such a best girl
all I think is that a fucking shotgun is more intimidating than a handgun
the first fucking thing i see is a doge thread
Not if you have a vagina. You gun get raped bitch
Also loving this thread, one person uses the word gun and the nutjobs crawl out of the woodworks
>librul scum who secretly hates women, old people, weak guys
>statist conservative pig that openly hates women, old people, and weak guys being able to defend themselves
I know that people here don't die when their house gets broken into and that if a house gets robbed here, it most likely was empty.
>less expensive to abandon them
Dogecoin thread, actually. It's like bitcoin, but with more meme.
Intimidation doesn't matter, you're using it to incapacitate. They won't think "Oh man that gun that just killed me sure wasn't very intimidating. I think I'll get back up."
There is no viable proof older gentlemen and women have a problem wielding handguns. As a light weight-low recoil fire-arm most prefer .306 revolvers.
>implying laser guns powerful enough to zap each other wouldn't blind everyone
Shotguns are actually harder for people to use than handguns. For some odd reason, handguns, especially those with enough "stopping power" are harder to handle than semi-automatic rifles because of the recoil.
It's much easier to control semi-autos, especially for women. There's less of a chance you get scrapes on your hand from the slide cycling. It won't have as much recoil concentrated on your wrist. It's also not as fucked up as a shottie.
This, gun grabbers are genuine nutjobs as the simplest bit of rationality is impossible for them and spew the same bullshit. They have to be honestly insane.
Drones don't cost as much as sending out eighteen guys in a bunch of flatbeds to take four days picking up pieces and bringing them all the way back to base to be repaired, tested multiple times, and used again.
There is nothing more expensive than time and effort in the military.
being intimidating can prevent the fire to start, I'm talking about situations where you got the time to convince the nigger to stop
If they aren't going to stop with a handgun pointed at them they aren't going to stop.
>There is no viable proof older gentlemen and women have a problem wielding handguns. As a light weight-low recoil fire-arm most prefer .306 revolvers.
A handgun concentrates all the recoil on your wrist. You can control rifles better because you disperse it with your shoulder, allowing you to keep your aim true.
>low recoil firearm
Do you enjoy having jeans stop your bullets?
You're literally telling people to "give the assailant a chance" with your proposals.
I meant both sides of this "debate"
When will people learn that both extremes are equally retarded? No one cares about your feels or your freedumz
Joe Biden thinks you're full of shit.
You just go out on your balcony and fire both barrels of your shotgun into the air and the criminals run away.
I wonder how many of them are just scared children and how many are honest to god fascists/stalinists who understand that disarming the citizenry is necessary to expand the state in the ways they want.
mmm, maybe. I'd still contend that the main reason we don't recover them is because they get 'blown down' in countries we aren't at war with and have no authority to be flying in.
>anything short of ceramic armor stopping a .308
And there goes your argument.
>When will people learn that both extremes are equally retarded?
>Other side has facts and logic
>Other has muh feels and logical fallacies
>Both are equally retarded
No, they mostly get blown down in shitty no-man land areas in the middle of the desert possibly around IEDs or hostile encampments.
>muhhhh reasonable position
>just common sense gun control
Fuck you, grabber. You fuckers have been openly declaring that you want to incrementally ban guns for decades. Go suck Feinsteins clit.
And then you have a madman walking around the streets looking for little girls to molest since you don't need guns to kidnap children.
He ain't just gonna hand over his weapons anyway.
The only surefire way to keep criminal scum off our streets is to have upstanding citizens pull a weapon on them when they try to commit acts of aggression.
If you take away the guns, you are trusting in the government's ability to protect the people, namely, the police, and the police have no obligation to protect you, whether it be from a knife, gun, spoon, fist what have you.
The law doesn't protect people, the law is a societal standard of justice and morality that lives within, and is enforced by, the citizens of the United States of America.
Buttblasted britbong banker slaves can do whatever they want, I don't care, as long as you take piers morgan back to london with the rest of the docile, passive-agressive shit flingers.
Answer me this, Americans.
Why do you need training and a license to operate a car, but don't need the same for guns?
No, if you try to use self-defense to protect yourself from criminals in America you'll get sued.
You don't need training and a license to operate a car.
How wide is your anus right now?
Only if they live.
Dead men can't sue
Because even the safe operation of cars is inherently unsafe, they're driven on public roads, and I actually don't need any license if it only stays on my property.
But you do.
That's why you kill them.
It's a low recoil revolver round you are talking about.
That either means weak propellant or VERY HEAVY gun. Both of which fuck you up in HD situations.
>safe operation of cars is inherently unsafe
The propaganda is strong with this one
There's been quite a few soldier to civilian killings in the USA in the past few years, though not with the publicity of the Kent State murders. The media is subject to Bush's national security laws and cannot publish the events. One even was being sideways discussed on NPR the other day vis a vis the censorship law revisions Bush put in. It makes the media criminally liable for publishing into that is harmful to national security and can also cause the media to be implicated under the collusion law. That's an important fine point because BOTH collusion and racketerring laws allow seizure of property and real estate holdings of individuals or organizations.
Freedom! Ben Franklin style in the USA.
You get sued by family members and then they'll put you on fox news as a case for gun control.
You do need training and a license to have a gun on you in public/places that are off your own property (aka a CCW), much like how you need a license and perhaps training, if you're stupid, to operate a car in public areas and out of your own property.
Richfags too busy gambling to kill each other.
You guys said earlier about how Japan has low crime rates mainly because it doesn't report them, but how safe is the country, really? For example, how safe is an average japanese adult living in Tokyo? How about in the rural areas?
Only if you live in a shitty state.
Next he'll tell you how more people die from being hit with blunt objects than they do from bazooka strikes.
Oh the ironing
>people having a discussion on how to handle onself in a life or death situation
>while never having been in a life or death situation
This is the thing, there is no "maybe I should fight him off with my fists/legs/superior Nippon fighting style". There is no "shit, how do I calmly talk him out of stabbing me to death." There is no "if I pay him, he definitely won't hurt me because this is just like a simple business transaction."
When a person pulls a weapon on you, you can only assume they have every intent to use it. And when the consequences of your punch not connecting is missing several internal organs from a swipe of a blade (look up the damage a simple kitchen knife can do, they will cut right through your soft squishy flesh), you are in no position to resist.
A gun, on the other hand, is different.You put the fear of death into the other person. You make it extremely more profitable to run away and not risk losing your life for $1000 max.
Maybe you mean msnbc? Gun control does not sell in the US and Fox News is all about making money.
anon, no one even uses bazookas any more.
It's as safe as the local crime ring polices the street.
So, like any place with a police force?
Too busy crying over Christie's bridge.
That and many of them are too ashamed to report crimes.
Destroying armored vehicles isn't hard at all if you have the willpower.
An unarmed man will have no will to fight, he is unarmed, neutered, his voice taken away.
That is the whole point of gun control, to take our will, not our actual ability to fight back (though it works wonders at the latter).
and going insane because rand paul is championing civil rights against chocolate nixon (a BLACK DEMOCRAT!!).
Someone at MSNBC got one of the lawyers ex-wives to claim that the suit was 'plagiarized'. They desperate.
>claims facts and logic
>posts nothing but personal attacks, "its only logical," and propaganda
Hey Europoors, which land mass in just the past two centuries witnessed 3 genocides, 10 dictatorships, and 2 world wars? Why don't we talk about who is the most evolved by comparing the numbers? And fools still cry out for your nannies to take away your only tools at preventing another round of genocide and authoritarian rule. Your area can't go a single century without falling into some massive conflict that ends up killing hundreds of thousands of people.
>he thinks a government can survive by killing its own tax payers
>Implying the strawmen isn't completely correct though
>destroying armored vehicles isn't hard at all if you have the willpower
He's right. You only need GUTS.
If you have enough GUTS, you could even kill a man with a mere thought.
>posts nothing but personal attacks
But anon, since when have facts and statistics been personal attacks or propaganda? Are you right in the head?
>When will people learn that both extremes are equally retarded? No one cares about your feels or your freedumz
Yes, let us appeal to mediocrity in everything we do. Surely it is of the greatest merit to just average everything we do and call it a day.
Only if he is a giant pussy. And if you ignore that no one wants to take your guns you paranoid fuckhead. But I suppose when someone presents a reasonable argument your only option is to make up a new extreme one and claim that is what they really want.
Now you say something like "hurr I see no reasonable argument" and continue to completely ignore the issue.
The one extreme is to murder all jews by shooting them. The other extreme is to murder all jews by burning them alive.
We've come to a compromise: we'll shoot them, then burn them. Look at how moral our decision is!
how much GUTS do you need to kill a griffith?
I forgot, guns are now freedom of speech too. We should give them the right to vote and make them people just like corporations right?
>no one wants to take your guns you paranoid fuckhead
What have you excelled in, anon? What world changing invention have you made? What important contribution have you performed for society? I know EXCELLENCE looks great on that motivation poster you put up for yourself, but that's where it's relevance with you, ends.
>these people don't want to take away guns
>hundreds of firearms are missing from the fbi
Is that counting when they knowingly, intentionally trafficked firearms to Mexican cartels or just regular, everyday incidents of "whoops lost my glock in ghetto"?
>not even trying to hide the propaganda anymore
What a well thought and reasonable point. Post more please it is making you look really intelligent
You are a retard. There really isn't anything else to say at this point if you genuinely believe that
Pretty sure Guts could kill a ton of giraffes by himself.
The former most likely. I'd think sending confiscated weapons that were "destroyed" would be smarter.
And you type like a twelve-year-old.
It only takes 7 unless you really suck
>no one wants to take your guns
>anti-gun advocates keep saying they'd like to ban guns forever
Some people can't even buy certain versions of the guns they want, effectively taking it from future generations.
Yes, as you can see I'm posting anti-gun propaganda in an effort of showing how ridiculous it is.
Poe's law works here pretty well.
>Destroying this vehicle isn't hard
>people having a discussion on how to handle onself in a life or death situation
>while never having been in a life or death situation
You might be unhappily surprised at how many people have had guns pointed at them in anger by a gun owner. Anyways, in the USA, lots of muggers carry at least a knife or gun due to all the self-defense people have. Remember, self-defense is negated by the mugger having surprise. You cannot really go to draw your gun when the knife is against your back while you are at the bank machine ATM because the mugger ran up to you from behind a car or bushes or came out of a store where he'd been idling. And yes, they will try to mug you even at a mall - I can say that legitimately because one black person tried to mug me at the mall's ATM. I managed to get away because my bank makes sure its ATMs have a full cancel that superfast ejects the card so you can run away. It doesn't have any of that slow ass "do you want to cancel" or slow-processing of the cancel. It would suck to run away with the "do you want to cancel" prompt on the screen since the mugger just takes over and withdraws the max money from your account.
You just pick it up and set it in a ditch. Then you grab your automatic shotguns and fire them into the air.
300 posts too late JIDF
B-But /k/ is /a/'s ally,
Fuck off /pol/, go back to your containment board.
That's great. Now fuck off.
>not being a /pol//a//k/
you can call them niggers when they try to rob you, anon.
>Safest country of the world
I love these.
not even for kim jong-un is it the safest place on earth.
Either way she's going to be emotionally damaged.
She already is.
Don't worry. If she has a handgun, she can kill herself.
as is her right.
>inb4 statists admit they think we're all just the property of the government
>Every problem can be solved by guns
Sometimes, only sometimes, I like America.
Yeah, only a gun will kill a person.
Guns don't kill people. I kill people.
In my area, a gun owner with concealed carry permit drew a gun against a mugger. The gun owner was charged with a crime because the mugger had no weapon on him and boldly denied he was mugging the gun owner. At that point, the gun owner could not prove there was a mugging and became guilty of drawing a gun in public (a crime), aiming a gun at a person (another crime), and violating the carry permit regulations (unlawful application of concealed weapon can result in cancellation of permit).
Serves him right.
I love propagand/a/
that is why you don't let them live
He should have waited for the crime to be committed before he went all quick draw McGraw.
Los chicanos son lo peor de todo. Quédate en gringolandia y nunca regreses. No te queremos aquí
While it was a fake produced by /k/, the brady campaign decided they liked it enough to put it on their facebook
Then they realized they were retarded and pulled it down
>learning self defense in the highest concentrated rape first world country in the world
On average a one in three girls is raped before age 14. Half of all girls are raped before age 26. Further three fifths by age 37.
The United States?
>the brady campaign decided they liked it enough to put it on their facebook
Did they really?
I want /int/ to leave
It's /k/, actually. Fuck /k/.
I don't care much for guns, but that's fucking hilarious.
I wish I could have seen the comments.
>No one wants to take your guns
"If I could have gotten 51 votes in the Senate of the United States for an outright ban, picking up every one of them . . . Mr. and Mrs. America, turn 'em all in, I would have done it."
You really shouldn't be getting your martial arts knowledge from the internet.
I'd be in tears too if the dearest leader was behind me.
I mean what an honor.
One day, /a/ with be for Anime & Manga.
One day, we will be free from retards and trolls.
ONE DAY, we will have mods who care enough about /a/ to remove shit like this!
BUT IS IT NOT THIS DAY!! THIS DAY, WE SHITPOST!!!!
Now watch me get banned for ironic shitposting while this crapfest keeps going
but why do you NEED an ar-15?It's an assault rifle. Only the police and military need an assault rifle, and don't give me that bullshit that the AR-15 isn't an assault rifle "AR" stands for assault rifle.
remember the 26 guntards
This thread has been alive for surprisingly long. Maybe the janitor is a disgusting normalfag.
>Implying a majority of the US armed forces wouldn't defect and bring massive amounts of ordnance with them
THEN WHY DO YOU NEED THE GUNS
Most gun deaths are the result of handguns, Keep rifles, keep shotguns, Keep assault weapons, ban handguns.
>Implying I haven't done BJJ for 4 years, dabbling a bit in MMA and Muay Thai as well
That's not how this work buddy.
For the rest that don't. Also SHTF.
>Get shot in the neck
>Slap on a bandaid and get back to work the next morning
That's great, too bad it has no bearing at all on the issue.
Maybe the janitor is one of the people shitposting.
I really need an anime version of Keanu
Guns are made to defend your freedoms.
Cars are made to break laws by doing things like drifting and also causing accidents.
Hey hey, up until a century ago that shit was commonplace all over the world. If anything good old Europe has never been so peaceful as it is now, which is nearly a wonder considering all the different cultures we have packed together on this small landmass of ours. You can't compare something like that to murrica, on many different levels.
Besides, why do you call us out? I don't own a gun, and never felt the need to. Yet I'm of the opinion that you guys should have the right to own one if you want to. The media loves blowing all that shit out of proportion anyway.
>Directly refute that all my martial arts knowledge comes from the internet
>No bearing on the issue
>That's not how this work buddy.
guns for fun? sign me up
BAN concealed or open carry and stupid self defense laws
> Also SHTF
yeah I'm sure that zombie invasion will happen next year, certainly this time
Your martial arts knowledge maybe doesn't come from the net, but you still don't know anything about that particular art if you're one of those 2 posters.
>BAN concealed or open carry and stupid self defense laws
lol, only 9mm
>BAN self defense laws
ban stupid people
>best place to post my insecurities!
yaknow i was gonna say something about propaganda hypocrisy but that is just too damn funny.
>actually making bullets 9mm long
Seriously? Jesus Christ.
That's the diameter, actually.
you do know that 60% of all assaults and rapes go unreported, 60% of those reported never see their day in court, 60% of those never successfully prosecute the criminal.
Self defense is the best thing to do in a peaceful country. When the majority of crimes are unrecorded, then you know something is wrong.
People don't immobilize armored vehicles with small arms fire in the first place dipshits.
Those types of vehicles have tires instead of treads because they operate in urban environments, you can't take that shit through woodland or a tall hedgerow.
And tank warfare is only practical in open country when we're talking about MBTs, because urban areas are basically IED minefields.
>People don't immobilize armored vehicles with small arms fire in the first place
Speak for yourself, I can make 9mm go through tank armor.
You fucking retard I hope you're not serious. No one can be this stupid.
I would just make a shaped charge on a stand, facing downwards, mount it on the cupola and splash hot lead all over the crew.
>homo jujutsu + Moe thai
yeah, you're an expert
To think that a century ago the Japanese police would actually be going full gorilla on crime, even against non-serious offences. I'm not saying that kind of shit was good, but the attitude of not giving crime respite was. Hell AFAIK even just a couple decades ago they were pretty hard.
Nowadays they might prefer not to take action when people tell them about stalkers that might pose life threatening danger.
You do not need training and a licecence to operate a car in the United States. You just need a licence to use the public roads.
If you drive a car off of public roads, no one can report or arrest you.
Also, the right to bear arms is known as a god-given right. A rule of nature that the government cannot take away.
It is the same reason why it is uncluded as the second right in the listed Bill of Rights under the god-given right to freedom of speech/worship/etc.
A god-given right to freedom to live as you see fit and to defend that life with any and all means including firearms.
Granted, I would like training to be mandatory for firearms for one reason.
>A well-regulated militia is necessary for the security of a free state.
That means self-armed, self-supplied, and well-trained civilians that can be called to arms in the event of sudden foreign invasion or government-based corruption and resulting oppression of god-given rights.
The US was invaded 3 times in its history. Twice the militia had to be called up as a major military force.
I'm dead. Humour > bullets
That deathtrap won't even protect you from 12.7mm!
Can I even walk in Japan at night without fearing for my life? Because if not, I guess it'd be better to move to Europe then.
if youre a womyn you'll want to go for finland, i heard
But there aren't any anime set in Singapore.
Just teach rifle marksmanship in school and call it a day.
You can, you're actually mostly safe, unless you walk around in bad areas. Crime rates are reported as too low, but they're still actually pretty low.
The number one rule to protect your life, way before talking about weapons, is learning to not invite danger and having awareness.
>Also, the right to bear arms is known as a god-given right. A rule of nature that the government cannot take away.
Except many medieval societies did exactly that. So it is in fact pretty much possible to take it away.
Hell, taking away the right to live -the most important and the most "god-given" of all rights- is extremely simple. You think people give any consideration to guns?
That would be a great idea. However, the public school system in the United States is run by communists/socialists that subscribe to the idea that humans must be controlled, as they are irresponsible and incapable of governing themselves.
The next best thing is mandatory military training after high school. That stopped after the Cold War.
But the Communists in Russia did give weaponry training to their kids, they at least thought them how to assemble and disassemble AK's. The Cuban government's plan at one time was to turn the entire country into an army. etc.
Americans being retarded as usual.
Singapore is for serious business, no fun allowed.
Aren't there like a fuck lot of rapists running around in japan all the time?
>de gubmint can't touch us if we have guns!
>implying you can shoot microbes
>implying microbes will care about who they're killing on who's soil
I see that a decade of Chris Carter shows failed to teach you how insidious the government can be.
You people remind me of American Niggers
Angsty teenagers with guns surrounded by the kids who bully them every day.
Good plan America, I hope you try it to start reducing your retard offspring
>killing hundreds of thousands of people
You mean millions.
My entire family learned how to use a weapon while in school (when the USSR was still around).
Communists have no fear of people knowing what weapons are, so long as those with them know how to properly have them.
>Except many medieval societies did exactly that. So it is in fact pretty much possible to take it away.
Yeah. Through bloodshed and famine. the Medieval period was called the Dark Ages for a reason.
>Hell, taking away the right to live -the most important and the most "god-given" of all rights- is extremely simple. You think people give any consideration to guns?
Guns are used to take lives in the same way swords and bows were.
If someone wants to take your life, how will you defend yourself?
Through law? That won't stop people from breaking the law.
The police? Average response time over 30 minutes where I live. 30 minutes to get the deed done.
A gun?... Well, if you own a gun, you can at the very least make it hard for them until the police arrive.
Switzerland is a prime example of a nation that takes the people's rights to defend themselves seriously. Never been invaded successfully ever. Why? Because their population is armed to teeth and their armed population outnumbers the largest military force on earth by 10 to 1. Oddly enough, the result is that they don't need a large standing army and can afford to have the best weaponry, seeing as the people pay to maintain their personal weapons instead of the government pushing out trillions. It's just plain cheaper.
The only way you can protect your life and your god-given rights from those who would kill to take them away is to have the same killing ability they do.
Every nation on Earth needs an armed citizenry to resist corrupt governments and invaders from the outside. If the people are not allowed weapons, the situation will boil over into massacre and genocide followed by civil wars, coups, and millions dead.
The Soviet Union was a great example of being unable to resist invasion. At the beginning of the war, they didn't have enough government-issued rifles. There were units with 1000 men and only 100 rifles sent into battle. At that point, they were wishing for militia.
The only realistic solution is civilian access to WMDs. That'll keep the government in check.
Yep, they re just afraid of gays holding hands in public.
Your shitty countries have no right to talk shit about anyone
>resist corrupt governments
You seem to forget that the government is made up of the citizenry. Your politicians, firemen and park rangers aren't foreigners.
The Soviet Union did not arm their population. They trained them to be soldiers, but took away their rifles afterwards.
The Cubans tried to make a government-run army. Not the same as an armed civilian population.
Europeans incapable of reading as usual.
The purpose of an armed population is to protect the people. The purpose of an army is to protect the government. A government that serves itself becomes corrupt and the people always suffer. An armed population is to prevent the imposition of a government that serves itself.
>creating an institution you will have to destroy
>joining and supporting an institution that undermines you
This is why the human race is pathetic and deserves to die.
Don't they just grab someone suspicious looking and force a confession?
>You seem to forget that the government is made up of the citizenry.
Just because they are citizens doesn't mean that they are suddenly not corrupt. If you see a bunch of police officers line up a bunch of people and execute them on the street, I would certainly not care who they are.
A government must be held accountable to the people it governs. If the government could be taken apart and replaced at any moment by an armed population, that government will be more than happy to serve the people before serving themselves.
The Chinese government is a prime example of the tens of millions of dead, the many thousands being executed on the tens of thousands each year for crimes that do not fit their punishment, and the thousands more that disappear and records of their lives erased. Government-run media outlets, oppression of freedom of speech/religion, the inability to live where/how they want to live... The fact that many of these things happen off the record means that there is little physical proof to go on by except for the villages that turn up empty one day and no one knows where they all went.
If you want an even more extreme example, North Korea.
Real world places that exist today.
This is the only thing Anarchists seem to get right.
Yeah, Singapore's really safe. You could go out at 4 am and not worry about getting mugged.
But that's why Singapore's safe. They enforce the rules really strictly.
An Anarchistic society would never stand a chance against a statist nation. So it's all we'll get.
Are you suggesting an armed population is incapable of doing
>oppression of freedom of speech/religion, the inability to live where/how they want to live
The problem lies with humans, and human nature. No form of government will change that. Truth is, if the North Koreans collectively got pissed and decided they didn't want to support the government anymore, there's nothing Kim can do. But they will, because it's easier and safer.
>racing against nigglets
Your little brother is a bully.
Singapore is a pretty great place to live if you aren't unlucky enough to be a male citizen.
America please, you can't be seriously this retarded.
I'm not even going to address the Switzerland part that breaks a record in stupidity, but I'll adress this point:
>If someone wants to take your life, how will you defend yourself?
If someone wants to take your life, you actually won't be able to defend yourself unless you're actually engaged in combat with that person. If you actually do get engaged in combat, it means that the person either lacks any overwhelming means to dispose of you (which means he fucked up) or that his intention was never to kill specifically you. It also means that you yourself fucked up at some point.
If someone really wants to kill you and is not a total moron, and you're unaware of his intention, then you will end up dead unless luck saves you. All the training in the world, be it with guns or limbs, won't save you from getting shot from a kilometer apart or stabbed from behind. Your actual first line of personal defense comes from not being a blind idiot and not getting into situations where you might get killed, but even if you normally do so and one day you end up getting into such a situation because of events out of your control, if your luck has run out you will still die, whether you're armed or not. Simple as that.
A state of war functions differently of course, as it supposes you'll be in combat where you'll use weapons in order to defend yourself and others, but carrying a pistol around has got absolutely nothing to do with that kind of situation.
Some countries view their armies as being there to protect the people. Who are you to say that they're wrong? Soldiers are also part of the citizenry, as are politicians.
you're thinking of britain m8
By shooting 10 rounds from small caliber rifle at school basement and assembling/disassembling AK several times? Yeah, they definitely learned how to use weapons after such lessons. Another 10 rounds in 2 years of military service - and they could go full Rambo without any problem.
...But you do need a license to buy a gun.
>if you aren't unlucky enough to be a male citizen
What do you mean?
No. Just no.
Males have to serve 2 years of national service in the military or some civil service. And you don't get to choose.
Went through it, it was shit.
Because of 2 years worth of conscription with reservist duties and fuck all compensation for it.
Do they at least receive a proper gun education? As I mentioned early, in the USSR it was not so rare for common solidiers to shoot only 10 rounds from AK once during all 2 years of military service.
Not sure if /pol/ or /int/ or /k/
But it's definitely not Anime or Manga
There's no point, they'll take the guns away after you're done and gun ownership is not allowed.
/k/. It's /k/.
But in a way, it's a good thing they're here and not shooting up schools.
We aren't even allowed to carry firearms as civilians. Discharging a round warrants a death penalty.
Please don't speak inferior race sub-language here. Thanks you.
>there's no point to learn how to use guns and operating in military dispositions in order to defend your country if the need arises
It isn't THE safest country in the world, but it's certainly up there. MIddle school kids can travel from one end of the country to another by themselves via train. And if there's a murder case, it'd be one of the headlines in the evening news, whereas other countries won't really bother.
>And if there's a murder case, it'd be one of the headlines in the evening news, whereas other countries won't really bother.
Bitch please, we've been covering a murder case since 2006.
>I don't know how to take a screenshot
I fucking hate 3DPD.
>implying it hasn't already been overrun with foreigners
>implying it's worth defending a police state
The country doesn't even trust it's own citizens to keep their guns after the training, like the Swiss, so I can only conclude that there's no need to actually learn any military tactics and that it's a relic from the past to drill state compliance into young men.
>fighting imaginary enemies in the name of freeedom when we never had that to begin with and the government is forcing you to serve at gun point
I'd rather we apply for statehood or just join China. Half-measures never saved anyone.
Not him, but what do you mean by "bad areas" ?
There's areas with niggers in Japan ?
So it's basically a form of 2 years work-for-food exploitation and brainwashing, too?
Yes, because I took that picture.
No, I googled it up
>Discharging a round warrants a death penalty
That is grossly disproportionate punishment.
Black people are not the only source of crime on Earth. There are many countries where the major criminal group is the ethnic majority. In fact I'm not even sure if this is not the case in murrika too.
>>So it's basically a form of 2 years we-won't-let-you-work-a-real-job-good-luck-in-the-job-market-don't-mind-the-immigrants, exploitation and brainwashing, too?
>In fact I'm not even sure if this is not the case in murrika too.
Wow, you're ignorant...
Shipping them over doesn't seem like such a great idea now, huh?
No, because Japan wasn't retarded enough to enact welfare/entitlement programs that incentivized irresponsible behavior and led to the family unit being broken as a means of making people terminally dependent on the gummint.
Shipping them was fine when we were allowed to keep them in chains.
What do you think would happen if we shipped over a bunch of violent tigers and lions, but kept them in chains? It would be fine.
Now imagine someone comes and says "these lions have a right to be free from these chains" and once they're free, they start raping and killing everything slower than them.
>other countries won't really bother
Murders make headlines here too.
I'm not sure if illegally owning a gun would warrant a death penalty, but even if it wasn't it'll still be a very long imprisonment time.
I went in with high expectations, went out convinced the system is shit.
>shipped over a bunch of violent tigers and lions
This was a bad idea to begin with.
Not really. There are thousands of lions and tigers in the US, and you rarely hear about them attacking people. Know why? We keep them locked up.
I just received my call up. How bad is it?
>Americans convincing themselves that guns are necessary in the same breath of claiming that they aren't brainwashed by their government
Sure, keep blaming the Jews for your demise instead of realising the truth.
Depends, some enjoyed it, some didn't. Most of my friends deem it to be a total waste of time though.
>Americans convincing themselves that guns are necessary
If they're not necessary, why don't the police and military disarm? Lead by example and all.
If there's a reason they don't want to disarm, it seems that they think guns are necessary.
>safest country in the world
>can't even own a gun to protect yourself
My point stands anyway.
Blacks have actually really become like this relatively recently, when politicans decided to fuck up any sort of organization for bettering blacks. America was extremely racist until just a couple decades ago and didn't want any racial unity aside from white unity. You just need to read in detail about the controversies surrounding Muhammad Ali to get the picture. The Iran-Contra affair and its repercussions is also a good starting point.
Some "whiteys" fucked up and conveniently left their mess to others for cleaning up, the result is African-Americans' present state which makes things bad for all groups in America.
My police don't use guns though. The military is only necessary because America is obsessed with being in constant war.
What do they need to protect themselves from? American tourists?
goddamn lions and tigers playing their jungle music really loud
And how your courts judge cases involving self-defense - is there a bias against a person who decided to defend himself during criminal assault even with bare hands? We have such shit here in Russia.
Japan is a dangerous place man. Yakuza, lolicon, godzilla, tsunamis, radiation. The thought of the good natured Japanese not having guns to protect themselves from such woes leaves me panic stricken.
>My police don't use guns though.
Mine do. Advocate for disarmament starting with American police, then advocate for civilians. Otherwise, it's pretty hypocritical to say "you don't need guns!" while ignoring the group that gets to keep their guns.
I don't know, anyone bigger and stronger than them? Anyone with a knife? A metal pole? What are you going to do if you get cornered in an alley, by a man bigger than you, or a group? Think they'll stand patiently while you dial the police and wait 5 minutes for them to show up?
That's one hell of a euphemism for soldiers.
They are on a "tour."
That's what I'm saying, get rid of the Police's guns too. Tasers and tranqs work just fine.
>why don't the police and military disarm
Because without its military America would economically collapse in an instant. America could very easily host a much smaller military for the purpose of the defense of the home territory only, but that sort of thing is incompatible with Imperialist ideals upon which the entire power of the country is based on. And of course there's absoloutely no problem in forbidding others from having the same type of army as they do.
So the reason why they think guns are necessary is very different from why a civilian would think the same way.
you are both equally retarded
>Tasers and tranqs work just fine.
I don't believe you've ever seen "tasers and tranqs" in action. Both are stopped by a bit of thick clothing.
And what about police? They're not building an empire.
>controversies surrounding Muhammad Ali
>police only need tasers and tranqs
>meanwhile cartels and gangsters running around with illegally bought automatic weapons
>People doubting how safe Japan is
It's not just statistics.
Every damn person that ever went to Japan will rave about how safe it is.
Speaking of tsunami, just compare how everyone behaved in Katrina vs 3/11 Japan.
That's all you really need to see.
And bullets are stopped by a bullet proof fence, walking around in two inches of rubber is hardly common.
>walking around in two inches of rubber is hardly common.
I'm not talking 2 inches of rubber, I'm talking about a normal jacket will stop a taser. Tasers are extremely ineffective.
Over here we don't get guns but if we don't get guns, criminals don't either. I've always deemed this as SD, albeit in a different way: it's preemptive SD.
Yeah there is, unless your life is threatened or something. Prevents fights and stuff from breaking out.
No they're not, maybe civilian class tasers, but high voltage tasers easily go through thick clothing.
If you kill/cripple him, then yes. Otherwise, not really, but these cases are pretty rare.
it's like you have no idea what they're even arguing about
Gaijins are way different matter. It's also very safe in China for non-locals.
It's not just gaijins.
Someone talked about how they visited KyoAni's studio recently on /a/ and when they talked about their experiences in Japan, they were amazed how people just left bikes unlocked and bags unattended, since they weren't scared of people instantly stealing their shit.
>maybe civilian class tasers, but high voltage tasers easily go through thick clothing.
The voltage of a taser does not affect the probes. Do you understand how a taser works? It shoots out two tiny metal prick-like probes into the skin, and runs a current through them, making the current run through your body. The probes have trouble penetrating thick clothing. If both probes don't enter your skin, it won't work period. You can rip the probes out if you're fast enough, if they do connect.
There's a reason police rarely use tasers, especially when their lives are on the line: you do not put your life at risk and rely on unreliable technology.
>And what about police? They're not building an empire.
>What is Dunkin' Donuts?
All the shit that happened to him when he said "I ain't got no quarrell with them Vietcong".
There's a book on the subject, can't exactly remember the name, Ali's Greatest Fight or something maybe. It ties in the personal repression he got because he took a stance that went against state policy with his choice of becoming a Muslim and his relationships with and roles within various "black power" groups of the time, alongside the American government and people's actions regarding those groups and the religion itself.
There are many other resources on the same subject too of course, but Ali's situation spans many aspects of it so it's an easy way to see the whole picture.
don't even joke about that shit you sick fuck
Don't talk to americans about guns. They live in a place where half the population has gunshot wounds and everyone has no trigger discipline and just itching to kill someone. They're beyond hopeless, it's sad. They'd rather have their guns than their family at this point.
>They'd rather have their guns than their family at this point.
If you have no guns, how would you kill your family? By hand?
This is pretty much true.
>expect a Judo thread
>gun control /k/ /pol/ circlejerking argument
I fucking hate you pieces of shit.
No it's not.
Have you seen American families? I'd take a gun over that any day of the week.
>buttmad weeb detected
Yeah, I'd rather have a gun than a fat family. Also, if I had a gun, I could shoot my fat family.
>expecting any martial arts discussion in a thread where "self defense" is mentioned.
Could be worse, you could have been reading posts talking about how tanks are better for self defense.
>not being a weeb and hasguns
best of both worlds nigga
My order of favorite boards goes:
And since when do we shoot up schools? We hate people who do that shit and give us responsible gun owners a bad name.
>And since when do we shoot up schools?
Since the dawn of times.
You are wrong you fucking shit.
Apparently you've never been here. We get such a bad rap.
Holy fucking milsurp Kotori, goddamn. 10/10
Could guns have stopped this?
Not where I live. In Florida you can kill someone who is running away from you and you'll easily get away with it and you'll get national support from everyone except blacks.
Better mental health care.
No wait, I meant arming the kids.
Don't go shoot up a school on my account.
/k/? Maybe /b/ but definitely not /k/. If you'd like to visit some time you'd see that what you're saying is not the case.
I tried to reverse search this but couldn't get a name of the anime. Can you tell me what it's called?
>Might as well trip because I'll probably be here for a while
>In Florida you can kill someone who is running away from you and you'll easily get away with it
No, you can't. You are buying into the ridiculous headlines put on MSNBC and not following what is actually happening.
She's from The IdolM@ster.
Now I want to learn to draw to portray my favorite girls with milsurp.
Unsurprisingly, there is nothing about collecting WWII era rifles, but instead producing teen pop stars
Once again /k/ is making the board a crappier place.
My finger slipped, I meant to say Bible Black.
Just as bad as Fox
In case you don't know what this is, I believe it's a picture from a Chinese man who stabbed 25 children.
Thanks, that's a shame there's no nuggets.
What's wrong with Bible Black
>In case you don't know what this is, I believe it's a picture from a Chinese man who stabbed 25 children.
How can you be a reasonable gun defender when you can't even fucking read?
How the hell do you get that from "1995 sarin" file name.
>I believe it's a picture from a Chinese man who stabbed 25 children.
Google the filename...
You know WHY they always shoot up schools? Because there's nobody armed there to stop them!
Thank you, pal, I really needed that kek.
knife fights are practically a myth, they're more like assassinations most of the time where one person just brutally kills the other person
I doubt it. And even if it could have, the perpetrators would be just as likely to have guns.
Pretty sure civilian guns cause more problems than they solve.
>Pretty sure civilian guns cause more problems than they solve.
But then you have guns to protect yourself from those problems.
>Pretty sure civilian guns cause more problems than they solve.
That's called "ignorance," friend, when you make an assertion with zero knowledge on the subject.
The news only publishes bad shit that happens with guns. It's easy to think they're only bad when you only get one side of the story.
Way to prove him wrong, bud.
what the fuck are you talking about?
>a person who murders an important person for political or religious reasons.
>political or religious reasons
Please fuck off, /v/.
Maybe that means we should have RPG's as well.
I like the sound of that.
>Pretty sure civilian guns cause more problems than they solve.
Then why do regions with armed populaces have lower crime rates than regions with unarmed populaces?
If you think those are the only two reasons for an assassination, you are fucking stupid.
I'm not his teacher. He can educate himself and make a decision on what problems guns cause, but to make a statement on it with 0 knowledge of any of the facts is pure ignorance.
Except you're just asserting what you want with no basis.
What assertion did I make, friend?
That he has no knowledge.
Don't need RPGs; Molotov cocktails are pretty effective against armored vehicles.
That is the dictionary definition. Are we just going to ignore that and assign whatever meaning we want to words now?
Not to mention you can't enforce martial law with tanks. There's not enough tanks in the world to keep civil order through some kind of civil instability or armed revolution. Not enough drones either.
But United States is always the first in crime statistics.
You're right, but what I'm going to go ahead and assume the quoted anon was trying to say that "assassination" is a term used for prominent, important figures, rather than just any joe on the street
Maybe in like micronesia
>But United States is always the first in crime statistics.
No, they're not "first," plenty of countries outrank them.
And two, if you look at the places with the most crime, rape, and murder, they are places with the strictest gun laws in the country, i.e. D.C., Chicago, etc.
>only using dictionary definitions instead of actually being able to decipher what the word means in context
>FOR THE MOTHERLAND
God, I lost it so hard.
>There's not enough tanks in the world to keep civil order through some kind of civil instability or armed revolution.
Because that worked well for the Iraqui insurgents.
You can be sure as hell the US didn't win and they still exist but you can't say they aren't repressed as fuck, even with their occasional bombing.
What can an armed populace do against a full army deployment "Shock-and-Awe". (Which I'd rather call American Blitzkrieg)
there's that word again
Use a real, exam certified dictionary.
>What can an armed populace do against a full army deployment "Shock-and-Awe".
There's a reason the US and other NATO countries were in Iraq for 8 years and the populace is still armed and fighting and still a shithole. Weird how we couldn't kill them into democracy.
A government willing to go to such a forceful extent against its own populace is asking to destroy itself.
Look at Syria. They're leveling their own cities and killing shit loads of citizens, but there's still a functioning resistance. And if the government ever wins some victory, the nation is in ruins, and their reputation destroyed.
Only Americans say that phrase. In Asian country, its a sport/discipline/hobby.
Where the hell is the Oxford Online Dictionary certified for exams?
This is the go to dictionary for the A/O levels.
And that definition is not the same as >>102099386
And you've just invoked Godwin's law.
And one more place to look up.
holy shit do people really need a fucking dictionary to find out what words mean these days?
Yes, and BOTH are not applicable in the situation in which you used it.
The running themes are
>the person is important/famous
>the motive is religious/political
I would post that Kircheis picture, if you'd only recognize it
>Yes, and BOTH are not applicable in the situation in which you used it.
Stop implying idiotic samefag.
I sincerely hope you don't come from an English speaking country, your standard of English is atrocious.
I'm posting it anyway.
It's used correctly, you just don't seem to understand the meaning of the word past a single definition.
It's a sport. You do it for physical fitness, competition, and self-improvement. The ability to defend yourself is just a bonus. Also, Iceland is safer than Japan.
And I hope you don't frequent /a/ seeing as you can only post shit.
Also, it's pretty amusing to see a person critique someone's English with a comma splice.
10/10, saved, used as wallpaper, emailed to all my friends, printed and hung on my wall, came on it
You just seem to accept popular culture's butchering of the word and accept it as fact. When an average Joe is stabbed, it's not an assassination.
>You just seem to accept popular culture's butchering of the word and accept it as fact.
It is almost as if words change definitions over time.
Just like the word "strafe."
I included protection from these problems as part of "solving them".
I'd say it has something to do with the mindsets of the people (or something like that), but more importantly, it's how well the law is enforced. My country bans guns altogether and our crime rate is extremely low. My country's people don't have the best mindsets in the world, but the law enforcement is really great. Strict gun laws mean nothing if the enforcement is poor; this isn't helped by the fact that strict gun laws can easily be deemed as unconstitutional. From the list of non-gun-related violent crimes committed, it also implies that general law enforcement is also weak. There are other countries which allow guns and have low crime rates, but that's because the people's mindsets there leave them suited to use guns.
Maybe America's mindset makes the country suited for gun usage, maybe not. But if the law had been enforced well, it'd have solved more problems than guns would.
Please go back to /v/ if you can't contain your urge to shitpost.
I'm nogunz and even I questioned that. Does .306 even exist as a caliber? I kept thinking he meant .308 therefore .38, or .32, but .306? Never heard of it.
Okay bud. The correct answer is still Iceland.
It does not. I'm thinking he may have meant .30-06, but that's far from a revolver round.