If you were to make an argument for anime as an art form, and could only use one anime to make your case, which one would you pick?
Boku no Pico. I'd quote that anon who wrote hundreds of words of how artful the animation is, and how the creator poured his heart and soul into it. Even the subject is fitting for modern art.
seems like a safe enough bet
Ichigo Mashimaro obviously.
you're joking ri-....
Oh yeah! A thinly recommendation thread.
I'd pick one from a current season at random, if a frenchman labeling a tin of sardines as his shit is art, green green and mars of destruction are fucking masterpieces.
Also fuck you, no reccs.
That one you just posted, with Lain as a close second.
I don't know if you're joking, but Ichigo Mashimaro is totally a masterpiece and Barasui is a genius.
Gonna have to go with guilty crown, pure art.
Depends. If I'm trying to convince my parents its art, I guess I'd show then something like pic related.
Well, Kino is a good one, Aria and Last Exile are good options too.
kodomo no jikan
Spirited Away is the only objectively right answer
It won oscar so it is highly persuasive, much more than you're favorite anime.
Honestly something moe, and I would call it art because it makes me want to protect the girl(s).
Aku no Hana
It really depends on what the person defines as art and what they value in the medium. Like do they want something exciting, thought provoking, or well crafted.
But if you want some generic, "I could totally run this 24/7 in my art gallery" I would have to go with Angel's Egg
Rose of Versailles or Legend of the Galactic Heroes would be my obvious choices. Going for the pure artsy audience though I would say The Tatami Galaxy.
First/Second seasons of Hidamari Sketch
Patlabor Movie 2.
Perfect Blue or Princess Mononoke
I'll go with ef - A Tale of Memories.
May I ask you why?
>Legend of the Galactic Heroes
>even the subject is fitting for modern art
it's a dude getting butt-fucked in front of a crowd
Too genre. Art critics are way too elitist to consider anything remotely 'steampunk' to be art.
I think you accidentally a word, tripfag-kun.
I'd have to pick Helvetica Standard
Top notch comedy and an insane amount of emotion displayed by the characters. Not to mention a top notch art style and creative settings.
I'd also put Pootan up there as well.
As far as films go I'd probably pick either Spirited Away or Millennium Actress.
I shouldn't need to use an example to explain how animation is art. It is by default.
>Aku no Hana
I can't tell if you're mocking the rotoscoping, or commenting on the loldeep story.
>as an art form
Right, so you pick a space opera and one that's not even on par with space operas in other mediums e.g books, film
One of Kon movies, Millenium Actress maybe.
Or something from 4C.
The character designs which contrast with the mood of the story. Also, the production values are great.
End of the World
It is however not very good.
but muh space prussians!
Why not just show Madoka then?
Every arc of Aoi Bungaku
>not even on par with space operas in other mediums e.g books, film
What are some space operas that are better than Legend of the Galactic Heroes?
Ghost in the shell, good animation and ost.
Don't know... Madoka feels too pandering somehow.
Legend of Galactic Heroes novels.
What the hell defines an art form? Does something have to be SUPER SERIOUS and DEEP to be art, or can art be literally anything?
You can't impress art snobs with something mainstream.
Madoka also spreads out the real artsy bits over quite a few episodes. We need something that has more Arts Per Hour.
I'm surprised that nobody has said NGE yet.
It's one of the few anime that tries to be artsy, for one.
No, not for the animation, and the "artsy" in it could be painted instead. Fucking gainax.
Haven't watched Shiki, but I'd hesitate to show Madoka to someone and tell them it's art. Assuming normalfags, they'd laugh at me because it's about little girls. Also I don't think it's quite good enough to thoroughly convince anyone who has high standards for something to be considered art.
The point of the post was really that those things don't really make Shiki a good choice for best example of anime as art.
Not even kidding, though I'd probably just get laughed at because it doesn't take itself very seriously.
art is anything anyone wants it to be; Art is what snobby cosmopolitan elites say it is.
art is a woodcarving; Art is a homosexual man painting by squirting paint out of his anus.
>Super Meat Boy
>postmodernist reductionist garbage
Is this /v/ bait?
>Art is what is good
Wow, such an improvement on the definition.
Both Jesus in Piss and Crying Woman are aesthetically pleasing and provokes emotions. That woman slathering herself in food doesn't have anything to do with the quote underneath, neither do the boring indie games.
Whole picture is ruined by SMB. Regardless of it's quality as a game, it's not a pretentious postmodern garbage heap like the others.It's just a twitch platformer.
Modern "artist" detected.
It's not bad.
Except there's a lot of poor art.
So is kill la kill art? That picture answers nothing.
This image is so fucking shitty, sasuga /v/.
How is SMB pretentious or postmodern or anything? That picture of the crying woman is good, just as much as the Renaissance paintings that he probably just used Google Image Search to find.
And the last two sentences of that shitty paragraph say the exact same thing as each other.
That's not art.
>the expression or application of human creative skill and imagination, typically in a visual form such as painting or sculpture, producing works to be appreciated primarily for their beauty or emotional power.
Disregarding the "typically in a visual form" thing, this works alright.
By this definition anime is art.
SMB is not particularly good.
That's not the point you idiot, the image lumps it in as "postmodernist reductionist garbage", which it clearly isn't.
/a/ doesn't talk about this one much. It's called Angel's Egg.
It's a bit weird but I wouldn't call it pretentious. It's a movie that says, look, watch, wait, and then tell me what you think.
Trust me, that is the point.
Magnetic Rose, dat Con onor muore, and pretty much Satoshi Kon's other works
Madoka TV series.
Thats pretentious, not art.
It's talked about so little that it's been referenced twice already in this thread before you came to enlighten us.