>N Fucking TR
Why /a/? Why?
It's the new popular fetish.
It's this decade's futa
Looks more like cheating for me.
Because fuck you faggot. It's not like they are real people anyways.
Sorry you're a hopeless beta who needs a fantasy world where your women aren't taken by stronger better men
I don't like being reminded what treachery women are capable of.
>Calls others beta
Seriously how can you not like cheating and NTR?
What's wrong with you?
But that's cheating not NTR. Learn the difference.
>gender bender doujin
>guy (now girl) immediately starts getting fucked by a bunch of faceless men
Liking NTR is literally jewish degeneracy
Because you can only get results from exact pages.
Op you have nothing to worry about. I read it and its only cheating at worst. Not NTR.
Cheesy soap dramas and tales of the old have been doing this since forever. In every country. Japan is just waking up to this "NEW" phenomenon.
Only acceptable when its some random bitch and not your waifu.
Yea because the true measure of an alpha is fapping to romantic scenarios of mutual love and consensual sex, i.e stuff any non-faggot can easily get in their every day life.
Not OP, but I like futa trying to impregnate males tenderly.
I don't like cold hearted bitches.
recommend me a good NTR doujin
My waifu doesn't even have doujins.
Why are you faggots doing this on Valentines Day?
ntr IS cheating
What is NTR supposed to be like anyway.
I thought NTR was when the girl(the object) is taken from one man(protag) by another man(antag) and the girl chooses to be with the antag by lowering the self-value of the protag.
But OP pic has the story where both girl and antag are in love but the girl still loves and chooses to stay with protag, who is completely ignorant and is just a keychain to the story.
I can't really say that's NTR, definitely cheating, but not NTR.
The core of NTR is that the girl is taken away.
Yeap. Glad we settled that
Note that I said new popular fetish and not Popular new fetish.
NTR isn't new, but its prominence is relatively new.
I've read this and it was not NTR, the woman just cheats on her husband and there is no humiliation involved. Please learn what "netorare" means before posting about it.
whats valentines day?
Something to do with chocolates, love, and flowers.
Glad you agree.
You better man up faggots. When reading an NTR mango I always imagine myself the guy who's doing the NTR
A holiday created by the Jews to wring good goys out of their money.
NTR's definition is extremely loose on /a/, even more so on other boards, people use it anywhere from cheating to a protagonist loosing his crush to a guy even though neither that guy or the girl was aware that the protagonist cared for her.
No one here cares about Jews or "degeneracy". We have regular trap, loli and sad panda threads, that's about as degenerate as you can get.
Is it still NTR when after the girl sleeps and admits the other dick is better but she stays with her man and her man even likes the idea of her sleeping around?
thas not really manly tho... if you were a real man you would have sex with a real girl...
>Not getting your ass pussy impregnated by a dominant futa
Thats something i'd try if I were turn into one.
I don't empathize with the guy getting NTR'D, I like NTR because it adds another level to the cheating where someone gets left out and betrayed and the cheater acknowledges and even laughs at the guy she ditched.
Also women succumbing to the penis is great but NTR does it differently. She doesn't go for both penises, instead she takes the best one and abandons the other. NTR for me is a dominance thing, I don't care for being on the receiving end of it all.
That's like being proud of steeling a really shitty car. Why would you steal a beater? It's of poor quality and doesn't have value. Anyone who stab their significant other in the back like that is worthless.
I guess I'm loosing it, huh?
That just makes you an asshole.
Nobody wins when you play NTR.
Yeah, it's prominence does seem to be quite new. Guess the people are searching for something a little more spicy, rather just plain vanilla.
Not a faggot, bruv luv
>Not being an asshole
But all I want from gender bender doujin is tender vanilla lovin' ;_;
I recently lost my enormous folder of Bait images.
It's loss is made more bitter by this post.
Why the hell does everyone say NTR when cheating and cuckolding are already valid English words?
Already exhausted Exhentai?
If not, the tags for that should be easy to find.
Cheating is an aspect of NTR, but cheating alone doesn't make something NTR.
It's only gay if you empathize with the loser.
Quentin Tarantino has proven revenge fantasy is a big money maker, I'm waiting for some doujinishi to take advantage and start a series of porn about the original NTR victim taking justice into his own hands.
NTR and cuckold are more specific than cheating.
NTR is more catchy and short.
That's just indirect cuckolding
well the easiest way to classify NTR is if the material is intended to create feelings of jealousy in the reader.
there used to be a NTR type classification first started by some br named FHC
Type A, B, C, Mystery, there is another further sub groups in Type B.
To say that it is NTR only when the girl gets taken away is not exactly right, cause there are many stories and games where the female chooses to stay with the protag, and may even love him, but they have another love for the thick long cock that can fuck her and make her cum multiple times in a night and pump her womb full of gallons of cum. You know like how they say girls have two stomachs, one for food one for sweets? So they stay with the protag, but keep fucking the other dude behind his back or maybe even openly. It's still considered NTR cause it creates feelings of jealousy.
Go read ver9's works.
It's easier to say.
>every hentai manga/doujin has to cater to my taste
This is how stupid you sound, fuckwit.
But it's not NTR? Even when the characters say "I have an NTR fetish"?
It's cheating. Nowadays everything seems to fall into ntr when it is not. Ntr is more about girl being stolen of the other half while the victim puts up some resistance at first. Cheating is where both party are consensual and mostly the female usually coaxes the male into sex.
There can be combination of both though, refer to Linda works.
Oh man I fucking love Quentin Tarantino. Did you guys like Kill Bill? Anybody watched the old Robot Chicken version of it?
cuckolding is often encouraged by the other partner because they think it's hot, so I think NTR is relevant enough to use instead in situations where it's unwelcome cuckolding.
not hard to figure out anon.
Like http://exhentai.org/g/309482/12f35b0e6b/ ?
NTR has been a thing since at least 2009, get with the program you retarded faggots
Because they are different things.
Not that people around here use the word correctly though.
It is only netorare if the MC of the story is the one who has his/her loved one is stolen from him/her
If it is told from the view of the man/woman that was fucked it isn't netorare.
b-but I ntr'ed her already
Rance takes your girlfriend.... NTR or not?
Okay okay, let's use this thread to pinpoint the NTR definition. Define these:
This artist's proportion can be really fucked up at times.
not exactly right. if it's told from the perspective of the dude who is stealing the girl it's called netori.
I think it's still generally considered netorare if it's told from the woman's perspective.
No it's not NTR, it's natural selection.
>the cheating chapter in ts panic will never get translated
NTR-no consent from those ntr'd, ntr'd individual is aware of it
Cuckold-consent from cuckold, cuckolded individual is aware of it
Cheating-no consent from those cheated upon, cheated individual is unaware of it
What tags are you talking about? I've searched for vanilla and it only turns up that one One Piece doujin and a few others.
Crush, girlfriend, wife, lover is stolen from man
Person in relationship has sex with someone outside of relationship
Different types, but the most common is the wife has sex with other men while the husband fully knows this, usually is involved in some submissive role during or outside of the sex. It's also a term used for a man raising the child of another man that his wife fucked.
anybody recoqnize this artist?
It's still cuckold when there is no consent from cuckolded.
What if you empathize with the woman?
Why should you empathize with the woman? she's drowning in pleasure.
but it is still ntr, if the individual is unaware of it.
In the end I think they all mean the same thing, your lover having a sexual relationship with another person, I don't think whether any consent is given changes the meaning.
It's just that ntr is the abbreviation of the romanji of the japanese term of the same meaning, netorare 寝取られ which I think literally means to take/steal sleep or something.
Is that not reason enough?
I self insert as whoever is having the most fun.
>drowning in pleasure
And that's a bad thing?
The woman is coming to the realisation that the man she's dating is a beta faggot (average /a/ poster) and that sex with a real man is infinitely more satisfying, hence why so many betas on /a/ hate it
Why does double peace pose have a notable presence in hentai?
Let me point you all to this old gem that started it all
I mostly defined them in such a way that would result in little to no overlap.
Not an expert or anything.
It just helps to show the slutiness of the girl?
Please respond, my biggest fetish is gender bender.
What tags were you using?
I'm not actually into that sort of thing.
>It's so hot inside meeeeee!!!
Surely you weren't going to fap to this in the first place
Vanilla, gender bender
I'm not exactly a wiz at searching for tags on ex.
Cuckolds don't need to to know they're being cuckolds. There is no need to use NTR besides it being shorter and you being a weeaboo. Fucking cuckold faggots.
But cheating and cuckold are just two different words in the english language that shares the same meaning which is to be sexually unfaithful, commit adultery.
And netorare is just a word from a different language that has the same meaning.
sadpanda should really stop assigning their own definitions to the words, based on personal interpretation.
>call others a weeb
Try using male:genderbender along with vanilla.
Same results, unfortunately. Oh well, I've pretty much read most of the stuff on ex anyway.
Why do you faggots need to get angry about NTR? It's just a cartoon with fantasy characters used for fapping, you don't need to get emotionally attached to them.
Stop getting mad at Chinese cartoon and have a variety of fap materials like real man.
Yeah I don't understand the rage, when I find something good and its ntr I'll fap regardless and if it bothers you then theres a wide variety of fap material on the internet
Sounds like everyday.
It's just babbies finding out about NTR for the first time. They'll come to accept it eventually. I remember it took me years before I started fapping to it.
There some H-games with that premisse though, Triangle Blue comes to mind, also some of Atelier Kaguya Team NTR has the option for the MC to man the fuck up.
>Guy's girl gets fucked by other guys
>Guy gets fucked by other girls
>caring about things that aren't real, never will be, and have no affect on you whatsoever.
get your priorities straight you fucking wuss. I don't like futa, but anal is anal. so is group and forced. as long as it has those 3, i'm good to go.
Cheating is the act, Cuckold is the name given to the fetish of liking the act of Cheating; different things.
>even thinking of selfinserting as the betafaggot who's being NTR'd, not selfinserting as either the girl or the man who fuck her
This fucking guy.
Self inserting as the betafaggot getting NTR'd gets me harder than anything else though
Thanks for the reccomendation, OP.
It also reminded me that Akiko san to Issho 13 was going to get released for c85 and we got a translation already.
Time to read them.
I don't particularly like stories where the generic asian dude gets his dick sucked by many women for no reason, I'm a extreme vanilla fag, one man, one woman; still you're right on the double standard there.
>it took me years
Funny thing is, there are people who actually belive NTR is a fetish for newfag.
You guys ever read that NTR where the guy is into femdom and lets his GF put a chasity belt on him? Then she invites her two friends over and they cbt him until she admits she's been dating another guy and gives his chasity belt key to those girls in a trade agreement.
Wish that artist would make more femdom like that, that's the good stuff.
It's really rage inducing when it's done right.
That's fine, the woman and the guy are fine but empathizing with the one left out is gay.
wither you place yourself as beta or alpha in ntr you'll always come out beta.
So what manga is this?
Sounds like stigma.
Yutai Nova? The MC was lagerly responsable for that shit though, while the act pissed me off, I was mad at the MC too for fucking up his ex-girlfriend view on sex.
What I don't get is why everyone feels the need to proclaim how much they hate NTR, why not just shut the fuck about it and not read it?
That's like me looking at scat which I absolutely detest, and then going "HURR WHAT A TERRIBLE FETISH WHY IS THIS ALLOWED". It makes no sense.
Ignore it and go fap to your vanilla or whatever.
right, NTR is an abbreviation.
it can fit netorare or netori.
but regardless with side its aims at, NTR apply to anything, cuckold only your wife.
your mom, sister, dog, friend, ect, can be Ntr'd.
Spreading the term to any series outside hentai is the sign of a newfag however. Example: "OMG the MC didn't get on with the girl he likes in that specific chapater/episode, she still lusts for that cool senpai even though this generic series will have her ending up with the MC after all, it's fucking NTR I tell you!", like this.
That's the goy. Isn't he doing some kind of series with a SM academy?
I liked that one mention previously. It was probably the first time I'd ever seen a humbler in an femdom manga. Also, the branding on the balls is hardcore femdom, which not a lot of mangaka know what to do with.
Only NTR to ever piss me off was Griffith and CascaI still eventually fapped to that scene anyways.
it was even in the file name. are you even trying?
what's more rage inducing is that the fucking ending was rushed.
it wasn't NTR dude
it was just rape
why do so many people not understand NTR
>it's fucking NTR I tell you!
Typical newfag rage, I don't think these kind of retards actually go to sadpanda and read NTR manga/doujin.
>mind breaking her into forgetting Guts
Yeah.. not NTR...
It's just a common buzzword now.
Forgot to add she enjoys it half way through too.
Because you can sing it.
>people can't orgasm during rape
>people can't receive mental trauma during rape
it's not NTR because Griffith didn't steal her away from Guts to make her his
she didn't enjoy it asshole
I actually like NTR when it's less fat men raping the girl and more milf wanting to satisfy her lust because her husband doesn't put in.
>implying you wouldn't want to be a young 20 year old bachelor fucking 2D milfs
>wanting to satisfy her lust
That's cheating, you fuckwit.
>people can't orgasm during rape
>people can't receive mental trauma during rape
NTR is the best, but only when it's actually written well. Too many authors just cut straight to the mind-breaking part, it's no good.
There needs to be a buildup, the ducks have to be lined up before they're shot down. Without anything before the mind-break it's all just a pointless waste of time.
put you mean out?
and usually when it's a milf wanting to satisfy her lust, it's more of a netori situation than a netorare
but that is to say it can still be netorare
>she didn't enjoy it asshole
Like I said, she started enjoying it midway through. Stay mad, cause Griffith gave her the fucking of her life that it ended up turning her into a retard. Guts could never mange to do that. He's more use to taking it up the ass himself.
Are you fucking retarded or what. There are species that have millions of years of evolution predicated on rape and antirape mechanisms.
>orgasm = enjoyment
>I'm mad because I understand how NTR works
>guts is the one who takes it up the ass
now I KNOW you're trolling
Not gonna argue if it was legit NTR or not, but two things are certain, Casca enjoyed halfway through, and she got mindbroken so hard she forgot Guts and didn't feel a slight ounce of disgust when she saw Griffith again, in fact she was even trying to reach him in that snow.
She sucked on his tongue in front of Guts...yeah she really hated it, didn't she. Guts did take it up the ass when he was a kid, you moron.
That's like saying "I like submissive doujins. I always imagine myself as the dom."
wait, she did ? Dont remember this part
yeah she really hated it
why else would she have received such a staggering mental trauma
>guts got raped as a kid
>so obviously he's more used to taking it up the ass than the guy who sells his boypussy for an army like a few months prior
>It is only netorare if the MC of the story is the one who has his/her loved one is stolen from him/her
This is netorare.
>If it is told from the view of the man/woman that was fucked it isn't netorare.
This is still netorare.
Do you know why?
Kuroki Hidehiko - Dirty Wife Netorare
MTSP - The entire Tohsaka-ke series, Sakiko-san, Tachibana-san, Niizuma Kyouiku, Yudan Taiteki
Gachinkou Shobou - Netorareta Hime Kihei series
Katsuobushi - Tsukuyo-san ga Iyarashii Koto wo Sareteshimau Hanashi NTR Ryoujokuhen
Both are NTR.
A netorare story can become netori for you if you side with the antagonist. Vice versa is also possible if you side with the protagonist and some such. Gender has nothing to do with netorare, since homosexuals can NTR each other.
Man I love NTR but as of late its been really boring for me because its usually always the same scenarios played out. Anyone know some shit where theres actual interaction between the girl and the guy doing the NTR and not just "I'm falling in love with you because the power of your D!". Talking legit falling in love stuff.
NTR is a broad term
NTR can occur through cheating, blackmail, drugs, rape, and the like.
Cuckolding is very different from the others but also falls under NTR.
Your mother, technically, can never cheat nor cuck you. But she can still NTR your ass.
There is that one doujin where the dude pulverizes the fucks that fucked his used goods.
I think the real difference is whether or not the man's suffering is shown
there are "NTR" stories where the dude getting cheated on is completely unaware, and stories where the dude getting cheated on is never shown
and yet they are still NTR, more likely netori than netorare, but the netorare still exists
I think it's so funny how buttfrustrated people get over NTR.
Let me guess you've only seen the movie?
First NTR experience /a/? I'm sure this will be alot of peoples.
>Not wanting an emotional response to the porn you fap to
Fucking plebeians, all of them.
is this out yet?
i recognize that's Kawasaki Tadataka
Let me guess, you never read the manga?
Anyone have source for OP?
From the artwork, I think it's by Tohzai. Just not sure.
protip, most people "raging" over NTR are fans of it posting to create discussion. It's so transparent, like retarded eva fanboys who pretend they just watched eva.
And that is the only NTR that made me legitimately mad.
Is that "When you let go of my hand?"
my first NTR experience was with this one where the guy's childhood friend was a tomboy and also like an older sister figure who was good at karate
somehow she fell into the whole "oh I'll show these pictures if you don't fuck me" thing, or something, and in the end she got mindbroken
and the dude came back and tried to have sex with her but her goods were too used so he ended up cumming in her butt
I don't know, that's not a good summary, but it made me mad/sad as hell
Wow, that was a good fap. Thanks, anon.
Google said it was this
>femto forcing his tongue in her mouth
the tears coming out of her eyes means she loves it
It sure is anon
>sympathising with the beta character rather than the alpha stealing the woman
That was made by Nagare Ippon.
Oh goddamn it. I remember this one. I even like NTR but that fucking ending in part 2 man.
thanks but I doubt I'll ever want to go back and read that
I think I have PTSD
I'm ruined for all NTR because that was just the worst for me
See >>102068895, yeah not exactly forcing when she never closes her mouth afterwards, looks more like she wants that tongue to stay in there.
NTR + Incest is my fetish
she looks like she's being raped
she looks like she's given up control over her whole body
it looks like she doesn't exactly give a shit whether or not his tongue is in her mouth because she's getting raped by a demon god
As in the sibling is stealing or as in the sibling is being stolen from
male:netorare is where it's at.
That one by Carn? Really surprising for him to make one like this, considering his record on straight up NTR; sadly the girl never was really the MC’s, so she could never really “come back” to him.
How long is this shit? i got a hard on reading that.
>it looks like she doesn't exactly give a shit whether or not his tongue is in her mouth
That isn't what it looks like /a/non, that is a look of a slut that wants more of something. Basically she gave in and started to enjoy it halfway through. Like I said at the start of this.
it looks like she accepted like she was being raped because ultimately she couldn't do anything about it
closing her mouth after he forces her tongue in there isn't exactly the first thing on her mind afterwards
like I said, it's not NTR, it's just rape
and if it wasn't rape, she probably wouldn't have been as mentally scarred afterwards
Another world. By Yuki N Dash [sp?]
Friends by Yoshiura Kazuya
Both are entry level and prettt good.
Then there is Nagare Ippon stuff.
If your wife said she loyal to you but give a birth to a black baby because the black have a big thick dick, would you angry?
Cuckolding is when you are Ok for your waifu to fuck other dudes and even encourage it.
NTR is when another men fuck and steal your waifu away because he fucks her better than you. Best NTR is when the waifu is commited, which means a little bit of forced sex is required at the beginning.
I don't feel jealousy. I get hard at seeing the other faggot's bitter tears when his waifu abandon him for a better dick.
>Cuckolding is when you are Ok for your waifu to fuck other dudes
No it isn't.
Are there NTR doujins where the bastard gets his ass beaten? I was hoping this one would deliver but it didn't.
It is now in our forward thinking time
Cuckolding might mean something else, but in a fetish only context it means being okay as dudes pound your missus, and even getting turned on by it
I became like this thanks to some 3D whore.
I remembered a loli doujin one, forgot the name.
The girl is finally said help me and the good guy snap and punch the bastard.
Because I always self insert as protagonist.
If the protagonist is an asshole from the start who NTRed other, I like it too.
>H-Hey guys, I-I'm really alpha lol... I only self insert as the guy fucking the girl, t-trust me...
What if mindbreaking and ahegao were completely absent from NTR? Would people like it less, or would writers have to work harder?
NTR isn't a fetish of mine, but I do like a good read. Unfortunately I get pretty disappointed and bored since it's often plays out almost exactly the same way by the dozen, and feels like the writer's equivalent to instant noodles, so much that even a minor tweak in a common scenario might interest me, like Mr. NTR man having a contest with his peers to see how many waifus they can take from other men before the week ends.
Thanks to that, the art is the main reason why I read anything with NTR in it. I have a hard time believing the people who claim that they exclusively get erect from it with how it's lazily I think it's written at least half the time.
there's that one Carn manga, if you can count it, though I don't remember the name
>NTR plays out exactly the same way
Almost every fucking genre plays out exactly the same way, you retard.
NTR is perfectly fine without that level of mind-breaking. In fact, it's usually better without it because whenever it gets to that level it's usually because of drugs or something stupid like that.
Is this the netori ntr story by Chiyou Yoyuchi?
I don't think so. I love Coelacanth's two ntr stories and I also enjoy Nagare Ippon's CC x Suzaku ntr doujinshi.
>Not self-inserting as the alpha committing the NTR
Bitch tears of bitter defeat are fucking delicious, and I will continue to drink them no matter what anybody else thinks.
Was Genghis Khan a very distant ancestor of yours?
New chapters translated never ;_;
>legs around him
>arms around him.
I love it when this happens, It's fucking hot.
>I pity anyone who can't get hard to pretending to steal this imaginary girl away from this other cartoon character
I have my weird fetishes
but I'm not a little bitch about them
>ntr story by Chiyou Yoyuchi?
Yes, the ending is too vanilla for my taste though.
What, you want vanilla impregnation? I can't think of anything more boring.
NTR is the same shit over and over again. Always the same fucking plot.
Even futa has more variety.
>it's boring because it's not violent, extremely graphic, or depressing
I will never understand why someone can say "vanilla is boring" when vanilla is basically most stuff out there and also most popular stuff out there
The sibling stealing, also femdom is a plus for maximum boner
I can only pick up one from my mind right now in which I know the title Otome Gari by Carn, but I recall at least one other where the guy bashed the fucker’s head in with a bat, but I forgot the name.
Triangle Blue however, is a gold mine for anyone looking for a NTR eroge where you can make the MC fight back, and fight like someone straight out of Postal.
I think so too. I'm mostly neutral about mind break, but frequently I see it being used as a cop-out more than a result of buildup or something else.
Good that you can quickly name some artists/writers off the bat. Is there more, cause I'd like to be proven wrong as much as I possibly can.
How much NTR out there doesn't feature the guy losing his girl as a sobbing or unaware 2incher?
what about futa NTR?
Good one is very very rare, many of them have a bad art style.
I can only name a few one.
Distance of two is quite good.
>popular means it's good
>mainstream means it's good
there was this one short futa ntr where a teenaged futa knocks up this one dudes wife
and then the daughter grows up to sodomize the dad
I think I might be able to self insert you guys, just not as who I was expecting to self insert as
>Even futa has more variety.
No, not really. You see one futa, you've effectively seen them all. Big balls, Big dick. Want them smaller? HA.
>stuff that is popular isn't likely to be good
>stuff that is mainstream cannot be good
I was really talking about how long it's been around, meaning that it couldn't all be the same because the genre would stagnate and die
but those are some lame /v/ tier points
What about NTR murder rape
>boy meets girl
>this is my first time, please be gentle
>oh my god it feels so good even though it's my first
>rinse and repeat into oblivion
Yeah, that shit is boring as hell. Only readable vanilla is older sister x otouto.
>implying porn will ever stagnate and die
>implying ad pop is /v/ tier
You're problem is you don't understand anything.
That's the good stuff.
>boy and girl love each other
>new guy threatens girl
>girl gives in to the dick
because NTR doesn't follow a super dumb structure, totally anon
My fetish is Yandere and Tomboy
if it's not popular, if people aren't buying it, artists/writers will stop making as much of it
if it's popular, if people are buying it, artists/writers will make more of it
and as long as vanilla has been popular, there's no way that it'd still be popular if all of the stories were the same
yeah, there's one by Hyoucou road which is an oreimo doujin.
honestly I think it's usually pretty lame when doujins do that half-ntr stuff.
and there's a whole volume manga which is about a principal trying to blackmail a student council president to have sex with him, but each time when he's about to succeed in his schemes and rape her, he gets ntr'd by the boyfriend bursting in and having sex with her.
It's actually pretty funny.
I can't remember the author of the second one though.the name was something like inazuma
I think I read that one. I thought it was kinda silly and I might've laughed when I first read it.
A shame, too. However, futa is the same as doing everything else, just with a cape on or something. Honestly, small/averaged sized and super sensitive futas turn me on quite a bit.
I've seen people interpret vanilla in two ways: Either it's what you've said, or "normal sex and some kinky stuff that isn't super /d/". I'm not one to like gushy love "two virginities end tonight" stories, but I've only seen critics of vanilla describe it as that.
Rinse and repeat, it happens IRL.
Shit gets boring
You're only fapping to the art anyways, it not like story matters
this, something like NTR only bugs my enjoyment.
when stories are good then they are good
when stories are bad they are easily dismissable
when stories are about things you don't like then it gets in the way of enjoying art
It feels good to be treated like shit
self pity is probably one of the greatest thing that exists.
Futa on shota is the best.
I don't remember Yoshiura Kazuya doing much ahegao or mindbreak.
There are NTR stories by Cuvie. I don't remember Hoshino Ryuichi doing that much mindbreak or ahegao. You just have to slog through.
That's why vanilla is boring.
Self-inserting as the girl is the best way to fap.
>has had THREE translated versions
That's called devotion.
vanilla is boring because people come up with new and diverse stories to make sure the readers buy their stuff as opposed to others?
I don't understand why your logic is so dumb
>it not like story matters
It matters because I get off to the idea of woman enjoying sex to the fullest, something that NTR delivers.
Oh jesus, I just looked that up.
That's one of the most disgusting penises I've ever seen. I think only the dicks in the western Jab comics look worse.
I find NTR sort of guilty pleasure, on one hand I find the idea of a woman betraying love for physical pleasure disgusting, yet on the other hand I find the idea of her giving in fully to pleasure very hot.
>stronger better men
80% of males doing to NTRing are old fat farts
>new and diverse stories
Both NTR and Vanilla follow the same pattern over and over again, stop deluding yourself by thinking there is anything diverse among them.
Checking them out now.
>boy and girl love each other
>new guy threatens girl
>girl gives in to the dick
That's not the only variation.
Do you know why? Because mothers/fathers can be NTR'd. Husbands can also be NTR'd. Your siblings can be NTR'd. Your first love that you look at from far away or your childhood friend can be NTR'd.
I mean, that Nagare Ippon story at >>102068891 was basically the last one.
Or you can have netorare like Coelacanth's Practice Game where
>girl and boy have relationship
>girl likes another guy more
>they fuck and girl likes it a lot
Or you can get another netorare story that I remember reading recently like
>some asshole is cheating on his girlfriend in the locker room
>you are with said girlfriend watching it happen
>you go back to your place and fuck each other
>you secretly tape the whole thing
>you think that you now have a girlfriend
>said girlfriend fucks with her boyfriend again so easily
And that's still netorare.
I'm not a big fan of pegging or futas on dudes, but I don't really give a fuck about it, except lately I've been seeing that the guy doesn't get his dick wet at all, or he only gets to jizz from having futadong in his mouth or ass. That sort of thing's like buying a cake for two, but only one of you gets to eat it.
And most of the ripped and huge alpha dudes who do it aren't even human. You know what I wanna see? NTR happening where a guy has TWO dicks, or one where the smaller guy wins.
>you want vanilla impregnation? I can't think of anything more boring
How could it be boring when its so rare?
Just a head's up, there's a first part, a second part, a supplement to the second part, then a third part which redoes the ending of the second part and makes it twice as long. Fufufuu has them all chaptered out, not sure about ex.
> Can masturbate just fine to NTR with teens and sluts
> Cringe everytime it's NTR about older women cheating on the person they've loved all their life
Is there something wrong with me?
I have yet to find better NTR than this.
Anybody else self insert as the girl?
This is a masterpiece.
So much a masterpiece that there have been several translated versions of it in just one language.
What world do you live in? The industry is driven by art and artist reputation. Just look at the top h-manga and doujin rankings at toranoana. Real diverse. So much plot.
let's not turn this into a whole thing
vanilla has at the very least the same amount of variations as NTR, me posting specific examples of how each and every doujin is different is going to help my case
if vanilla is boring and stale, NTR is boring and stale too
Nah, just as the guy who does the dicking. It gives me some sort of sadistic pleasure.
I think part of what makes it so great is the whole first chapter is completely vanilla. That's how you properly set something up for maximum NTR payoff.
But that's the point. Both sides have variety.
The same way harem/incest/rape/SM/bondage/scat/futa/homosex/bestiality/other genres have variety.
The variety is in the tweaks. Outside of that, generally all genres follow a main pillar or structure.
Saying a genre is stale through generalizations is pretty fucking stupid.
Since when NTRfags have become so vocal? l thought they were minority.
>minorities aren't often the loudests
the louder they are, the less they have to hear about their fetish being shit
What's the name of this?
I just can't get into the cowtits, small head, long appendage art style. I love NTR, but I'm also a lolicon. It's pretty suffering.
I'm not the one saying that vanilla is boring
I'm not saying anything about NTR, except comparatively to vanilla
I'm not attacking NTR, just defending vanilla by comparing it to NTR
Ah yes. I honestly thought MTSP was gonna go vanilla. A lot of vanillafags were also praising the entire thing, saying the artwork was so good they couldn't wait for the sequel. Then BAM. The same thing actually happened in Japan and they were so drawn to the NTR after the vanilla as well. This doujin topped charts for weeks.
I'd still like to know too.
>not linking the whole thing
The minority is always more vocal then the majority. They have to be for you to have heard of them in the first place.
>Not liking this
What a nerd
Bonus points if they're his friends
Its from pic related.
How enormous were we talking here?
I think maybe people have gotten used to it by now. Slowly some people converted while the haters just learned to ignore it. It almost seems like it's 50/50 now.
I wish it was like that for other controversial genres. I recently got into guro and now I'm learning all the hate and discrimination it gets.
Is that supposed to be an insult?
CAPTCHA related: impregnated ewsared
Why DOES NTR involve impregnation so often anyway?
I liked the art and the ending. Not so much the writing, though.
I liked how it had buildup. However, I didn't like how everyone was firmly grasping the orb of confusion once the NTR part started. That aside, the writing interested me enough, and for once the little guy tries to get better. Even if it was 100% vanilla I bet everyone but the "NTR or nothing" guys would've like it.
I see guro get complained about less than NTR. Most of the time from what I've seen people just settle guro related arguments pretty quickly and calmly.
Shit don't work, cuntbag.
To rub salt in the wound?
I think this was the frist ntr story i ever read.
This. In some doujins, it's not enough that the guy taking your girl is exponentially more of a man than you are, or if the only positive trait he's got is a large penis that refuses to become flaccid, he's gotta steal someone's virginity and bring on his legacy.
Is there anything where the son/daughter meets the guy, maybe even confronts him? There's already so little NTR where the two guys actually are face to face about the whole thing, and even less where a kid actually gets a line of dialogue.
I don't get erect for guro. Who gets axed?
>I see guro get complained about less than NTR. Most of the time from what I've seen people just settle guro related arguments pretty quickly and calmly.
All the "fucking and torturing/mutilating" girls is way less real and relatable than a bunch of fat fucks fucking your girl and she enjoying it, guro can easily be dismissed as fiction to people who not care, but NTR is more personal.
Works for me.
Your internet must be broken.
I fucking love NTR. It helps me in my wizard training.
ohhh, that was fucking cute, pure love etc
tfw no gf
Either awsful depressed mood or high chance to try to go outside to find 3DPD
BAD END- (either sucide or 3DPD)
OH FUCK, I"M SO MAD
good thing I'm glorious wizard, woman a shit, 3DPD no allowed. Full Adachi mod
feel happy and joyful for being wizard. Start watching animes with double power. 2D is only pure love.
BAD END+ (blissful denial)
I don't like NTR but I love Nagare Ippon, don't know why. It's the art, probably.
>Implying you wouldnt
I was laughing way too much at the dialogue to even fap
>tfw no gf
So, l guess NTR being popular on /v/ was true.
Since when are old/fat dudes good at sex, or even durable? If anything, it'd be more realistic if a bunch of dudes who look like greek statues were breaking men's hearts by using their penises alone.
3D women are either sluts to begin with or not. They don't have a "slut mode activate" button in their orifices, too.
What happens to a wizard when he goes far enough to consider NTR to be vanilla?
I'm talking about on sad panda. Anything with guro is instant one-starred and the comments blows up with morality blogs. The tears were entertaining at first but it's pretty annoying now. And most other hentai communities just ban it outright.
Oh. Lame, cause it's pretty obvious which is guro, and which isn't. Not to mention you can filter that out in the first place.
This is where other translation come in.
>Find porn you like,
>Look for chinese translation (or italian if you like pasta)
>Fap without knowing there's NTR going on
I'm a genius
>Not laughing and fapping at the same time
>self inserting as the girl
Do I need to say it ?
I'm sorry anon
I have much to learn, I have yet to harness the skill of fapping while laughing.
Man I love this artist.
Pic related is NTR god.
Nothing makes me more mad than his doujins. So much rage
>Finding a doujin where the female MC gets NTR'd by her boyfriend getting feminised and mindbroken by an old guy with a big dick
>Since when are old/fat dudes good at sex, or even durable?
You"re pretty stupid for confusing relatable with realistic, also missing the point.
I know this is NTR thread, but this vanilla episode was probably the best out of the tank.
Any NTR where most of the sex happening are threesomes? Or the MC reveals to everyone that he's actually a disciple of Descartes?
What? Why? You're clearly meant to identify with the guy who's stealing the girls, the other men are barely even present.
Then you would be fapping to netori newfag
Heh, that guy do both super vanilla impregnation with Rider and NTR with Rider.
1. NTR is an abbreviaton for both NeToRare and NeToRi
2. I never even said it was netorare. All I said was that just based on panel time alone, the author wants you to identify with the guy who's stealing all these girls and knocking them up.
3. Only newfags call each other newfags.
Yeah, its like saying you like X-burgers even though you only eat the bread, the "l self-insert as the NTRer" is the lamest excuse ever.
His work varies from really really good to really really shit. Story-wise I mean.
This is his better work.
>still can't find it
I feel retarded. I'm getting "Married Woman Hunting!" and "Married Woman Kyouko" but I can't seem to find that specific one.
I think, and I could be wrong here, that it has to do with consciousness v. biology. NTR, as well as several other fetishes, often play around with the boundary between a person's free will and biological inevitability.
Impregnation creates an outlet onto which a writer can make person's body betray their will/intentions. No matter how much they love someone else their body will still perform its reproductive duty. It's a sort of ultimate sadomasochistic fantasy.
http://exhentai.org/g/422601/12252fab37/ and all his other works
I want to share the rage
You need to read more Neterare then, Ver9 settups are so ridiculous it's funny, he is right up there with Work Fiesta's stupidity. Go for pic related, it's actually good Netorare.
I would love to but I can't into moon/chinese/korean
the better art helps.
Story is easy to get, even without translations, it is that rage worthy.
>still can't find it
Please stop being a newfag.
1. Goto [Settings]
2. Tick "Image Search"
How I'm supposed to know it has good setting if I can't understand jackshit?
You are retarded.
Girl getting fucked by several men, who OK with this is still good.
Guy who cheats on his girlfriend is bad.
Never have I seen so much beta posts in a thread. People actually like ntr.
Is there an NTR where the mc moves on and finds a better girl, while the NTRing bitch lives in sadness and regret?
Girl being raped by a fat old sleazy teacher.
Its been a long since I read some NTR.
Which one out there will make me bust a vein?
Is that the one where she actually loves the teacher, and only dates the guy because the teacher told her to?
Yeah there is.
MCs uncle fucks his gf and MC eventually just goes on with his live after hardly ever seeing his gf.
There was one where the guy moves away from his hometown and finds a girlfriend and eventually get engaged. They move back to his hometown and he gets NTR'd again.
who's the entry level NTR artist for you /a/? for me It was Jingrock.
>while the NTRing bitch lives in sadness and
Not sure if it's hentai/seinen comic but there was a reasonably good manga, 12 vols in all I think, called NOZOKIANA.
That was a good read... fappable, but the story was more interesting.
hah she was worst girl indeed
I need to read this. Who's the author?
This improves the doujin a lot, it shows the girl is enjoying the dicking a lot.
No, that kinda kill the purpose of NTR
But there are a lot of stuff with MC commiting suicide, being killed, becoming homeless drugaddict
Otome Dori by Carn
That's a great drawing either way.
>No, that kinda kill the purpose of NTR
No it doesn't
Thats pretty old
Time for a sadpanda dump?
And lastly, my favorite one
In unsweet netorare girl try to go back to her NTR'd boyfriend but he says nope
source, anon, source!
I need to read it on valentine day
Because it reminds them of how they can't keep a woman because of how beta they are.
>nuh, they don't read the story as I do/ I think they should !!
Don't be such a nazi, anon.
meh, I don't like Hana Hook. He is too repetitive and boring
BTW what about imako system OVA? Was it released already?
It's so hot.
Not that anon but I think it's not a doujinshi.
Kagachi-sama Onagusame Tatematsurimasu – Netorare Mura Inya Hanashi The Animation
Unless he's talking about a different onw.
Looking forward to the animation coming out on the 28th
That one? I though the other girl in his hometown is his mother/step-mother or something
You best not be lying to me nigger.
I remember reading this NTR about a happily married housewife who get fucked by her husband's old fat boss under the pretext of teaching her how to be a good wife, while her husband is away on a business trip. And even when the husband got back she continued to cheat on him because she liked it.
That made me rage for a couple of days.
by MTSP jin
You'll see on the 28th.
Most likely going to have a thread about it.
NTR was my biggest fetish but after fapping to around a hundred NTR vns it has lost its edge. Not sure where to go from here. I wish there was more father x daughter stuff, that's still something I can get off to (especially father x daughter NTR where the daughter is the protag's sister) but it's rare as fuck. Sister NTR in general is good as well.
I thought it was a vanilla, but found out that the fucker who uploaded it got the wrong tag.
Revenge is my favourite thing but there is not nearly enough of it.
You forget to mention that she also got impregnated by fat boss. I think it was my baby-first NTR
It's is by queen bee.
Namanaka 100% and pisu hime.
They doesn't animate anything, they just color manga pages and turn them into gifs or something, well, at least they have voices. And 20% of the ep is just >before >after pics of manga
>They don't anime anything
Fuck I hate NTR, so many otherwise wonderful hentai ruined by it
Have you seen namanaka 100%?
Watch it and you will understand what I mean
I remember a manga of a dude selling his wife (without her knowing) to the boss of a big company that buys stuff to his own small company.
He had her blindfolded and tricked her into fucking the other dude using his voice. At some point the wife realized what was going on but still kept fucking for her husband's sake.
It's NTR so of course she ended up loving it.
All the while the faggot husband was watching it, crying but having a boner.
It ends up with a flashforward, and husband watching her wife being fucked by the other dude from afar, while he's masturbating and miserable.
The best kind of NTR.
How the fuck do people get off to this shit?
Do they self-insert as the loser getting his girl stolen or as the fat fucker doing the NTR'ing?
Oh the shoe string one?
That wasn't that bad, a lot different than the usual stuff. Felt more than gifs though.
The dude making the NTR was good looking.
You get off self inserting as the wife and/or the stealer.
Or you just get off seeing a massive faggot getting his comeupance.
So, is there one where the guy get's taken away instead of the girl?
Man theres one I know thats very similar to that about some guys wife being raped without him knowing but at the end when shes being gangraped and admits to liking dicks the husband takes his mask off(they were all wearing masks) while his wife is sucking his dick and hes crying and as soon as she sees that her mind breaks.
It was one of those WHAT A TWEEST doujins and I'm kicking myself for not remembering it.
they self insert as no one and watch a woman get corrupted.
I don't say that hentai is shit, I actually liked it.
>Felt more than gifs though.
That's what I mean. They just color pages and make gifs out of them
This. I don't self insert myself to the shit I read.
Eh, I don't know. The animation wasn't the greatest about that particular title, but it wasn't horribly bad either.
I'll have to wait and see how Imako system turns out.
I also remember it. It was some old hentai anime with 1990~ art.
But I don't think he cried, he liked it. At the end he was at home watching his wife being fucked by his employee and smiling
Or maybe we talk about different stuff, but the MC also had a mask and plot tweest
I'm glad there are other people who get off to the corruption/humiliation aspect of it as well. Its hard to be a part of NTR threads because its all usually"Who do you self insert as" when I never do it at all.
By Yoshiura Kazuya...
It's all about perspective. You guys wouldn't have a problem if the MC was the one who gets the girl to cheat.
or is it....
You can't help but self insert as the hopeless guy can't you?
The fact that people care that the MC is being cheated on IS self-inserting.
You are literally feeling bad because that's what you would feel if that were to happen to you.
That's the entire point of the fetisch.
How does one even masturbate without imagining that he is the one doing the sex
The same way I masturbate to bestiality porn. Or girls masturbating. Duh.
There is another one with a pretty interesting plot.
>Enters the couple, happily married, vanilla as fuck, the usual
>Husband has a little brother who is secretly in love with his wife
>Brother uses the pretense of moving out to go live in the couple's home for a while.
>Wife is against it, for the brother has been creeping on her for a while. Of course she won't be too explicit about it to not ruin the bro's relationship.
>Little bro settles in their home.
>he starts raping the wife on a daily basis, thinking he would eventually break her and have her dump her husband for him.
>during all that time, the wife keeps on asking her husband to kick his bro out, without telling him about the rape. Of course, blind faggot husband won't listen to her pleas.
>it ends up on a open end, we learn that little bro will move out in a little while, while the wife is asking herself if she would be able to not break up long enough.
It's up to you to imagine if the little bro will be successful in his NTR or if vanilla and stupid husband will prevail.
You can fap to something without self-inserting. See anything femalexanimal/monster/tentacle.
And no don't say you self insert as the girl.
Why are both the people who like and dislike NTR such bitches about it?
>hurr so impure so wrong muh feelings
>hurr so alpha so tough muh feelings
This is the best kind of NTR. The NTR'd guy is an asshole so you don't feel sorry about him, so the story turn into a vanilla eventually.
I wish there were more NTR doujins like this.
It reminds me of that cuckolding story, with the captain of the HS soccer club asking his teammates to gangrape his GF (the manager) while recording it, so he could fap to the video without her GF knowing he was the one behind it.
What time do the normies go to bed?
I want to discuss things without autistic people ranting that X shouldnt be allowed..
Anyone have a link to the doujin about the wife who cheats on her husband but he finds up and chains her up in a room and treats her like an animal?
Is there any girl harem?
In the sense that girl obtains a harem?
Hentai NTR has become an inexorable part of my masturbatorial experience, but when it happens in beyond the pornographic domain Its the worst possible thing, especially when the MCs a bitch about it.
That's the one, cheers.
Light of Tsukimi Manor is the only one who comes to my mind right now.
But that's not right at all.
I hate seeing somebody taken away from somebody they actually love, no matter what their gender is.
>, it not like story matters
Might as well fap to 3D if you don't care about the story.
Thank you I'm che-Wait, I recognize that pomf.
Not sure if its been posted yet but one of my favorite NTR stories. Just because the main guy tells her that he can't trust her anymore and tells her to fuck off at the end.
So, what do you guys like coupled with NTR? Drugs? Bondage? Aheago? Rape?
I'm partial to humiliation and exhibitionism.
it's always the guy who hates NTR starts these threads,
I think your post would flow better if you wrote:
>NT fucking R
>N fucking TR
There is no alternative.
I can't fap to any of those things. Except tentacle because I can imagine that I'm the tentacle, can't imagine I'm a woman or a dog though.
Heres one of the funnier NTR doujins.
>that fucking side panel on the last page
My sides every time
>delicious loli mistress
>wife that wants to try out sex like in his porn videos
this fucking guy
>I'm gonna get you pregnant with my retard babies!
I have a chronic fear of NTR that's why I'm in an open relationship with my waifu
Before I used to feel like shit when people would post her getting fucked by other men
couldn't even look at most of her fan art if they included other guys
Now in the open relationship I can jerk off to it and not feel like she's betraying me
The one that really get me mad is a series made by takeda hiromitsu.
Imaria...dammit i still rages about this till now. I read the first vanilla chapter years ago. When he released imaria gain i thought it will be a vanilla again, but no!! he dropped a bomb in the IV and AV ones... still mad thinking about it.
You are in open relationships with your fictional 2D waifu because you afraid of her betraying you?
Fuck, that the most beta thing I have ever heard. I don't anything can top that
Who is your waifu anyway?
>Who is your waifu anyway?
It's a trap. He's going to masturbate to your waifu if you tell him.
NTRs that start with vanilla are the best.
What other stuff like that are there? I know only Ima Ria, Rec by Erect Touch, and the MTSP one
do you want to send him cum on monitor pics?
what if he wants to jack off to others jacking off to his waifu?
NTR is a shit tier fetish.
Down there with scat, feet and furry scum.
The new series by sanagi torajirou. Forget the name and only one chapter exist for now. But the artist said that it will be 5 chapter long and the 1st chapter is vanilla theme...before you read the last page.
I cannot delude myself into thinking she can be satisfied by me
Imagine yourself dating the perfect girl, there's no way she could be content with you if you were a loser, virgin NEET with no skills or redeeming qualities?
Some people treat their waifu like some being who unconditionally loves them but that to me is too unrealistic. That's just a self-gratifying fantasy.
For your waifu to be as real as possible she must be her own person (ie can cheat on you, shout at you, complain about you, hate you)
It's not a fetish you retard. It's a plot device.
>not liking women shitting big turds
>not liking sensual delicate feet
You fucking faggot.
people can fetishize plot devices.
regardless ntr can be a fetish.
I'm pretty sure there are people who fetishize that certain plot device.
>Japan is just waking up to this "NEW" phenomenon
The world's first NTR story was born in Japan though.
>not liking feet
I can understand hate of NTR or scat but why would you hate delicious feet.
Are you some gaylord?
feet are fine but foot fetishist are the worst people.
Well, the whole concept of waifu is to create imaginary ideal girl.
If you want someone who will cheat/complain, you always can find 3DPD
Legs, thighs, no problems. Feet? Gross, smelly things.
Maybe in 3D world, not in glorious 2D
It's not a moral issue with NTR. I just don't enjoy it because it seems silly to me.
Same as when I see a doujin about a series I like, but the characters are acting completely out of character. I can't really get into it.
In RL, if someone fucks with your lady, you're pretty much obligated to handle the problem.
Now why the heck would you ever like something like that? Why do you find pleasure in seeing other peoples' trust and even lives get crushed in front of them just because some whore decided she liked the sex of another guy better?
Why not just break up with him? Why not just leave him? Why rub it in the guy's face like he has no value at all? Why not be a decent human being and get some fucking manners? If anything, NTR just shows us the horrible side of humanity and how some people deserve a kick so far up their ass, they'll have a taste of shoelaces for months afterwards.
Don't take offense. I understand some things, such as fetishes, are mostly out of our control. But please take a minute and think it through. Is this kind of thing really something to support? Isn't this something you should refrain from watching/reading?
It wouldn't be NTR. NTR is partially about learned helplessness. A male so beaten down he won't even put up a fight.
>expecting normal human reactions in NTR
Why do this to yourself? They don't even qualify as characters, they're talking plot devices.
>Why do you find pleasure in seeing other peoples' trust and even lives get crushed in front of them just because some whore decided she liked the sex of another guy better?
I'm not that guy but pic realated. Especially when the guy commit suicide. Delicous tears.
It's the same thing why people suffering and healing stories
>people getting emotional over NTR doujins
>not awakening your primal instincts by fapping to the god tier art
>mfw i know some people who get angry over fucking porn
Does anyone remember that one doujin where the first part was vanilla then the author put up a poll on a website to decide if the second would be more vanilla or NTR? It ended up being vanilla but I thought it was really unique in the fact that he let the readers decide the story and was trying to remember the name of it.
Well damn nevermind. Two seconds searching through my folders and I found it. For anyone curious
Up to this day, I still can't understand this mentality. It's basically ordering a spaghetti at a restaurant and but expecting to get a pizza instead.
By the same guy who made "when you let go my hand"
I'm still mad that japs chose boring vanilla
Speaking of primal instincts, anon.
Men actually produce more sperm when in group sex or sharing a girl because it causes a primal competitiveness in your subconcious to show up your sexual rival (the other guy) and fight to impregnate the girl faster.
Because in real life no woman in the history of EVER would be with her ideal man. All she does is settle for second best out of the shitty pool of men available. Deep down inside women will always desire the alpha male and in the real world there will always be someone who earns more money than you, who is taller than you, more skilled than you, and more attractive than you.
Do you want to know why 90% of women fake orgasms? That's because you aren't good enough for her. You just aren't no matter what you do by virtue of your genes, what you were born with and your upbringing. Nothing turns me off more than seeing a woman not enjoying sex and trying to fake enjoyment of sex turns me off even more.
NTR in many ways shows a woman's true desire for a cock of her own chosing because she readily goes out of her way risking pride/status/money/respect and everything to get it. Once she gets it, you know she's genuiney going to enjoy it. The genuine enjoyment the women show is the appeal of NTR.
Cause it ruins the illusion that 2D is perfect.
well, the same can be said about man, they will always want someone better, more attractive etc
It's something from Locke's social contract. I'm too shitty to be alpha, you are too shitty to be with alpha so let's pretend that we like each other because society demands marriages, families and other shit.
>because in real life no woman in history of EVER would be with her ideal man
Guess what? No man either. Humans aren't perfect.
>Deep down inside women will always desire the alpha male
There are plenty of men who actually loves their partners even if they aren't the richest man around. The personality matters as well, and the same thing goes for men.
>Do you know why 90% of women fake orgasms?
I hope "women" in this sentence refers to the ones who have been your girlfriends. It's very likely that you just made that up on the spot, and you'll certainly need reliable sources if you want anyone to believe that.
>Nothing turns me off more than seeing a woman not enjoying sex
Feelings and trust are very important parts of sex. While some women are in it just for the fun, plenty of women are turned on and appealed by the sensual aspect of it as well, that is, the moment you share with a loved one.
>NTR in many ways show a woman's true desire for cocks
Not all women are cock-hungry monsters. Some are real people, you know.
>The genuine enjoyment the women show is the appeal of NTR
But then plain old cheating would be enough. Why is it needed for her to rub it in the other guy's face? If it was simply about the woman, why do you need to see the guy suffer?
(Thank you for answering, by the way!)
This shit will never fucking end...
It made for a much better 4th wall-breaking story and it covers all basic fetishes including anal. If it had the exact same things she did with him but with the fat pig you would call it a masterpiece and you know it, all because of a stupid tired gimmick. This is what's funny with ntr, the work can have literally 4 pages of missionary sex and it will be overrated to death and beyond by the fans.
Fiction doesn't have to be realistic, nor it should. I bet you're the old man yelling at clouds (as in getting mad at harem because you can't enjoy pandering).
See how normal this is? I didn't fap to it, dead limp dick, I don't like used goods osananajimi or oneesans. Used goods to me are fine when there's no romance to be involved, like that magnum thing by Gujira.
Fuck off you cheating 3DPD whore
Cheating on who?
So are you.
Didn't I just talk about love and such? You confuse me, Anon-kun.
>I don't like used goods
Jesus, what the fuck is wrong with you? I can understand this sentiment if it's a normal anime/manga series but a fucking hentai?
Hiroyuki is god tier healthy bitches
link please to that
How do I read thread?
>Not all women are cock-hungry monsters. Some are real people, you know.
Come on grill
No /a/non would type that, unless their veins carry more alcohol than blood.Then again you can type, so you are most likely sober.
Well, I for one never cared for the presence of the NTR fag; if the art is good, I'll fap.
Happy No Valentines Day!
meant for >>102077358 obviously
I know. Controversial, isn't it?
Thanks for the polite response!
I'll try to clarify further:
>Guess what? No man either. Humans aren't perfect.
Men typically don't have the biological clock urging them to quickly settle down which gives them enough time to pick the ideal woman they feel is best for them. Women on the other hand feel their ovaries drying up by the time they are 30 years old, plus the social pressure to settle down and raise a family doesn't help either. Men do experience social pressure to some degree, but not to the same extent to women and seeing fairly old single men is not unusual in society because there are so many of them.
>There are plenty of men who actually loves their partners even if they aren't the richest man around. The personality matters as well, and the same thing goes for men.
I'm assuming you are referring to women in the first part. The real test of a marriage/relationship is if the woman will stick with you when you are in a crisis and have literally no money, with your house repossessed, unemployed etc etc. Money and wealth and power is a major foundation in a relationship and most women will say they are in one because of personality etc. because the stability and wealth in that relationship gives them the privilege to say so. Take that away and you see where the real priorities lie. (unless they have children which sometimes provides a strong enough glue to hold the two together)
>It's very likely that you just made that up on the spot, and you'll certainly need reliable sources if you want anyone to believe that.
Okay I guess I exaggerated the numbers, but the studies say at least 80% fake orgasms.
I'd answer the rest, but I'll be going over the comment limit.
Funny, because reverse ntr is a male power fantasy, and it's basically as close to vanilla as it can possibly be.
Fiction doesn't have to be realistic, nor it should. Fiction and especially porn fiction is supposed to be as pandering as possible.
>If the art is good, I'll fap
I might be sober, but I can drink to that!
>Happy No Valentines Day!
I'm not arguing for hentai to be realistic, I'm trying to explain the psychology on why NTR can be such a strong sexual fantasy.
If you fuck silly both the girl and the boy and add them to your harem is it still NTR?
Except what you think makes it strong to a lot makes it for a dead limp dick. It's something way more offensive than defiled forever, damaged and used goods rolled into one and raised to nth. It's very polarizing, and not in a good way.
Thank you again!
(Oh, and I'm glad you didn't mind, or at least pointed out my harsh jokes. I have a tendency to do such.)
I don't have enough time to check out the source right now, but I'll make sure to do it and see if it changes my thoughts about the matter.
About the rest, I don't fully agree with you. I believe the personal bond that two partners create can make up for the lack of money and power. I don't mean it in a "I can't get anything better" way either, but a relationship where one of the partners actually didn't mind it just because the person loved his/her partner so much. Also, when it comes to looks: "Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder.". I've noticed myself how different (and way more beautiful) a person can become when you start to like them.
I suppose it might just be my traditional view of love that might bias me, but I still feel like there is something more to it than just material things such as power and wealth.
Could harems (considering most of them don't have an harem end) be considered reverse NTR of some sort ?
Because what is the point of having 5+ girls after MC, and leading them on for 11 episodes, if not for the sake of crushing 4+ maiden hearts at the end.
Does anyone else elf insert as the guy getting ntr'd? I want that so bad. And getting sissified and fucked, humiliated in public etc.
No, because no girl ever wins in harems.
(Except Mayo Chiki, where best girl just recently crushed her rivals when MC proposed to her in front of the whole school. Now THAT is how harems should end.)
Well there was this one H-manga where the guy had his ass beaten
with the NTR'd guy's dick
and turned into his concubine
It was some sort of chinese tale.
That shit was fucking gold.
That's the best ending for a love triangle.
Well, mindbreaking her totally backfires on him. This isn't like my usual Chinese cartoon.
Chinese confirmed for alpha dogs.
Japanese why so beta?
China you are of Genius.
There is that Chinese Shoujo. Typical 2 boys one girl love triangle, except the 2 dudes are buttfucking one another.
Why so deliciously twisted, China ?
Well, and how do you feegl about orcs /a/?
They are good and caring husbandos
I don't understand why people hate NTR. I can understand why they may not like it, but hating it? That's because you're self inserting.
And there is nothing more pathetic than self inserting into a fucking cartoon. There is nothing "alpha" into thinking that you're some fictional character who's in vanilla, or NTR, or futa, or whatever the fuck you're into.
If you are self inserting, you are by definition a weak and pathetic male. Pic related, the typical beta who self inserts.
This guy makes anything fucking magical.
I can't even describe how amazing his faces are.
I've been saying this shit for years.
His proportions can be pretty fucked up at times.
Care to give me the name of the series?
NTR is great. I have hard time self-inserting as girly school boys, because I'm a fat balding middle-aged man.
I fantasize about having a gf and having a vanilla lovey dovey sex with her. Does that make vanilla a fetish?
I'm more than willing to overlook that when the faces are this good.
It always feels weird when I realize people past their 30s still browse 4chan.
You disgusting monster.
I never understand why some people are so hateful towards NTR, seems like an extreme case of insecure projecting in most cases.
Apparently, that "vanilla" series is connected to his netorare series.
Netorare is mostly for people who can't self-insert into something they are not, so they'd rather have someone as lonely as they are (kinda like the childhood friend getting cuckolded behind his back), netori is often (see anime doujin) for people again unable to self-insert ("why is he getting all girls and I'm not") who would much rather actively make the fiction they don't enjoy or they are just jealous of as miserable as they are. So basically it's true you can't self-insert, but because you're probably a bitter fuck, certainly not because you're a stud, you would have to be pretty damn retarded to think people who hate ntr do it because of dick sizes, some of the best harem hentai of all time has guys with big dicks who get every woman to ahegao and fall for them, people eagerly self-insert in these.
In other words, it's pretty more pathetic to go around bashing Kodaka lolnandattexD than reading pubescent kids' pandering fiction and enjoy it for what it is.
Also, learn what empathy is.
Fiction can be as perfect as one wants it to be, ntr spoils that perfection, and while you like corruption many people hate it. Where were you when people found out Yuki in Good Ending turned out to be second hand goods? Or when Nagi in Kannagi already had a bf? It's the same thing, their fiction turned out to be imperfect and they got mad, because to some people if you can't even have perfection in fiction there is just no point.
Because most adult people have been cheated on at least once, and it's not something to fetishize, it's something that makes you feel like you don't want to be alive anymore.
Liking NTR is almost sure proof of being a virgin.
>The world's first NTR story was born in Japan though.
That's not Greek stories like the Trojan War..
Or the founding of Rome.
Enjoy NTR if you really must, just know that it's a MASSIVE red flag that you are a virgin and have probably never even dated a girl before.
>But then plain old cheating would be enough.
All cheating fall under NTR.
There are many NTR stories where the women never "rub" it in the protagonist at all.
I don't think that word means what you think it means, faggot-kun.
Yeah, but then again we are on /a/ on valentines evening, so why not enjoy NTR?
Whoa... all that projection. And by a samefag no less.
This is almost as bad as people who say people who love incest stories want to actually bang their sister, hate their father, dislike strong women, etc, etc.
You may want to rethink that.
But I've been NTR'd by 3dpd and NTR has still become my biggest fetish.
I like the way you think.
Except that was a clear sign of projection.
>Liking NTR is almost sure proof of being a virgin
self inserting =/= empathy.
You're pathetic for self inserting into a fucking fictional sexual cartoon.
It doesn't matter what genre you're self inserting into.
And it's hard to feel empathy for a fool. And MC in NTR are usually morons.
I could understand that someone who has been cheated on wouldn't enjoy that experience the same way as a NTR doujin/game, but if >>102085229 is true then >>102084899 anon is projecting.
But it's probably a case by case scenario.
Wow. What the heck? What a scary mindset.
I like how this is under the assumption men only enjoy NTR, when it definitely has an appeal to women. And honestly it's not difficult to enjoy porn without self-insertion.
I just enjoy NTR because you can often find something that's character driven. So there's some definite empathy. It has nothing to do with being a stud or getting some dick or pussy.
I tried getting into NTR because you faggots wouldn't stop talking about it.
I read few of NTR doujins. I was literally forcing myself to read. It made me feel bad and angry.
How can anyone enjoy this? How can anyone enjoy seeing someone suffer, or some girl get raped until her mind breaks?
Don't worry, it's just not for you. Just move on to the next thread.
Most people haven't been cheated on. And people reacting to being cheated on differently.
Liking NTR means you like forbidden sex. Or it could mean that you're a masochist or sadist if you're self inserting into any of the male characters (if you're insterting in the first place you're pathetic).
But if you're just a spectator, you're enjoying seeing the truth and that is humans acting like a bunch of mindless animals.
Why is rape (non NTR) more acceptable than NTR?
I think it's because most guys self insert into MC and that's retarded.
If MC was the one doing the cheating or fucking a married woman, people would enjoy the cheating category more.
>you're enjoying seeing the truth and that is humans acting like a bunch of mindless animals
This... actually makes more sense than I've read about NTR fetish reasoning.
I think it's a control thing, maybe the guys who self-insert into rape can't self-insert into NTR because it's usually kind of consensual.
>Why is rape (non NTR) more acceptable than NTR?
People like incest is just a deeper, more romantic bond than osananajimi. And it's forbidden, but it doesn't hurt other people in the process, so it's not a Wrong taboo like cheating but it's wrong because of mutant babies (?). If they get beyond the point of being sibilings it must be a pretty strong bond, which is why slutty sisters exist but are rarely predominant and the same reason why step-shit would never be as good as the real deal. People finding incest in 2D wrong are likely the same people who dislike harem.
You can be pathetic without self-inserting. I just told you: you watch Haganai, you get mad at Kodaka because you watch it from an outsider point of view but you don't get in his shoes, you would act like some hentai protagonist moron and fuck them all because it looks easy to you.
>I like how this is under the assumption men only enjoy NTR, when it definitely has an appeal to women
Oh, but I know it appeals to women, all the more reason why many men hate it.
Rape is a male power fantasy. There's a woman there, it's there for you to take, you take her whether she wants or not. Now, if the woman is engaged some people don't stop, some think "how would I feel if it happened to me?" and stop.
Straight rape is more popular no matter the poll or how many polls one could make. If forced to choose, most people will always prefer no ill feelings involved.
Good times, but too bad its a dream
There is a high chance that the anime will be shit.
Someone post the one where the guy gets NTR's by his dog. I think the dog's name was Jinbee. Fucking hilarious.