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Just finished Monster, and I'm pretty keen to discuss it.
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ITT: overrated shit.
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Now there's a show that needs some surgery.
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you can't bring monster on /a/, anon. /a/ doesn't like good shows
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>>102064292
My bad, I made the mistake of believing I could stray to this board after watching a decent series. Well, fuck it, I'm just gonna say it; I felt like the pacing and time keeping of this anime was grade A stuff for its length. 74 episodes and it rarely had me at a point where I was thinking 'oh god why are they dragging this out' or 'why all the recaps', and I pretty much chain watched it.
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>>102064292
>horrendous pacing
>trivial plot
>overblown social and political commentary
>one track characters
It isn't a good show.
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>>102064343
First poster here. Monster is generally regarded as very good. "overrated shit" is a meme that originated with Monster, hence me using it.

With that said, this has been discussed to death by most other people who have watched it. It's a problem with trying to make threads about any anime that isn't currently airing, and it's why this thread will probably die quickly.

Good luck with a discussion, though.
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>serial killer who isn't in high school
>no murdering at a hot springs or beach
>MC doesn't accidentally fall on victim and grope them before death
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>>102064343
I'm currently watching it, at episode 65. I have to agree, when I was about twenty episodes in I thought "how could this possibly go on for so long?" but there hasn't been an episode that hasn't been interesting.
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>>102064504
I thought it might have hit that point of 'so old and so not-current people don't mind discussing it again' part of the parabola.

I'll be honest, the first two episodes had me thinking 'what the fuck is this? This looks awful', but I'm glad I stuck with it.
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>>102064696
It cycles characters round in a great way, it has an awareness that the character is doing things without them being on screen; this is particularly notable with Runge.
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>>102064747
I always looked forward to an episode centered around him. In my opinion he was the most interesting in the cast.
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>>102064948
He's pretty fantastic, his vacations are some of the best. My personal favourite has to be Reichwine though, he's just.. comical to me.

Heckel was probably my most hated character. God I fucking hated his entire design.
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I've only read the manga. Who was your favorite character OP?
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>>102065073
See >>102065011
>That face when you find out Roberto's identity (not spoiled for the sake of >>102064696)
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>>102065101
Heckel didn't really do much though, and he dropped out of the series entirely in the second half.

Wish we'd gotten more Vietnamese doctor though. And Nina. More Nina and less Eva would've been nice.
As for the male characters, I didn't really expect Grimmer to survive the series but it still hurt when he died.
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>>102065225
It's a shame that The Magnificent Steiner didn't come to save the day.

I'm glad Heckel dropped off. Eva was a great character, annoying fucking voice though, but a great character. She could've been extremely boring, but being like a depressed spoiled puppy made her an excellent addition to the cast.

I didn't expect The Baby to reoccur though, that was a shocker.
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>>102065225
>Wish we'd gotten more Vietnamese doctor though
Mah nigga.
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>>102065337
Have you read 20th Century Boys? I plowed through Monster in two days and thinking about marathoning another Urasawa manga.
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>>102065467
I haven't, honestly I'm an anime person; manga just isn't my thing.
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Non Non Biyori? More like Non Non It Bores Me.
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I actually just dropped it at episode 20 and decided to switch to manga.

Story is exactly the same and you're consuming it a lot faster.
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>>102065555
Wrong thread bozo.
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>>102065491
Read 20th century boys if you really liked monster.
Also reasses your position on manga, you're shutting yourself off to a lot of things.

I re-read Monster last week (first read it 5 years ago), forgot how much I loved it. Think 20th century boys just about beats it though.
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>>102065746
I was told that it gets a bit disappointing towards the end, but then again they said the same thing about Monster and I think they were wrong about it.
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Best character right here
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>>102066173
>That file name
I'm finally sad..
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Pluto>Billy Bat>Monster>20th Century Boys
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gurren lagann, not so good
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>>102066173

He redeemed himself at the end even if he didn't know it. One of those rare characters who was likeable and stayed so throughout an entire anime.
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It would be way better if it was around 20 episodes.

Way too much filler and meandering around.
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>>102068026
>It would be way better if it was around 20 episodes.
>Way too much filler and meandering around.

It's like you don't like a fleshed out story. Even if you didn't like some arcs they all tied into one another and progressed the story - hardly 'filler'.
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>>102068071
You could condense them.

50+ episodes is a fucking lot.
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Monster overhypes his own villain, in the end he's just a run of the mill serial killer.
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>>102068234
>just a run of the mill serial killer.

So charismatic that he infiltrated numerous criminal organizations, influenced other serial killers, brought his orphanage to ruin, and all this before entering adulthood?
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>>102068370
Sounds like a mary sue
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>>102068421
Don't use terms if you don't know what they mean.
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>>102068463
Only way to make it worse is to give him heterochromia and make him "iiiiiisaaaannnnnne!"

Oh wait.
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>>102068421

Yes - and I suppose hitler was a mary-sue in his rise to power, and Alexander the Great, and Ghengis Khan! All mary-sues!
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>>102068370
>he infiltrated numerous criminal organizations
I would be impressed if he created them

>influenced other serial killers
happens all the time

>brought his orphanage to ruin
they were awful people anyway

really, he never did anything particularly cruel and mostly only killed people who deserved to die.
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>>102068545
Oh so he's self righteous too. Another mark of the Sue.

Is he half-Saiyan or half-demon by any chance?
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who is the real monster?
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>>102068620
John Stalvern
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>>102068620
anon
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>>102068620
Everyone has the capacity to be a monster. Stuff like the fairy tale show that anyone can become a monster in the right circumstance.

Well it's that or the mother.
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>>102068620

The director of the program to create another 'charismatic' leader to lead East Germany from the ashes and shake the world.
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>>102068620
Communism
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>>102064697
You must be fucking kidding because the first few eps were the strongest.
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It's okay. It really, really did not need to be 50 episodes long though.

God the pacing in that show got so bad they were dropping cliffhangers and plot twists on us that HAD ALREADY FUCKING HAPPENED.
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>>102069530
>It really, really did not need to be 50 episodes long though.

Well, actually it did seeing as it wanted to be completely faithful the manga (right down to the pacing) - some people (like you) don't like it, others found it just fine.

50 episodes is hardly a chore though and the story was compelling enough to continue.
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>>102068620
Johan's mother. Really.



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