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Donovan, Casca, Pippin, this guy, Boscogn, etc.

Midlanders and Chuders in general seem to be fair skinned (and almost every woman is blonde.) These characters don't seem to be of Kushan ethnicity either, as Kushan look more distinctly South Asian than Black. So what do you suppose they are?

Is there perhaps a Berserk equivalent to Africa we've never heard of? If so, I wonder if there are more as of yet unmentioned regions across the world of Berserk. I'd personally love to see Guts fight monsters inspired by Chinese or maybe even Aztec folklore. That might mean more boat trips to get there, though.

I want to hear your opinions. Please, discuss.
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>>102062933
It's got a Persia/India fusion, I don't see why it wouldn't have other equivalent areas.
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>>102062933
>Casca
Isn't black. Even though she's dark-skinned, she has white facial features. Her hair is straight, too.
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>>102063430
I suppose that goes double for Pippin, then? I mean, his hair is slicked back but it's no afro.

Indeed, I see it now, they're both clearly as white as any other Midlander, but how do they get such a dark and even tan? Mysteries abound.
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>>102063671
He looks like an islander
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>>102063671
>Indeed, I see it now, they're both clearly as white as any other Midlander
No. Pippin doesn't have white facial features. Huge lips, broad nose... Casca truly is "white with a tan", though. In real life, she would probably be Indian or Arab.
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>>102063727
Yeah that's honestly what I thought, too. He looks kind of vaguely Samoan.

>>102063747
That's really not a tan, though. Talk about her the way she's drawn all you want, but she's clearly not white, and her ancestry isn't Midlander. I take it you assume she's Kushan of the same ethnicity as Silat or Ganishka? I think that sounds ridiculous, but whatever.

How about the others then?
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>>102063747
reading these chapters makes my heart hurt a little bit

that arc is a fucking modern masterpiece
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>>102064018
>>102064018
>alk about her the way she's drawn all you want, but she's clearly not white
I think you misunderstood me. I know that she's brown from birth. When I said white, I meant Caucasian. So Europeans, Arabs, non-Dravidian Indians... And Casca is clearly Caucasian. The way her nose is shaped, there's no other possibility.

> I take it you assume she's Kushan of the same ethnicity as Silat or Ganishka? I think that sounds ridiculous, but whatever.
Explain why that sounds ridiculous.

>How about the others then?
Boscogne isn't black either, pic related. He could be a mulatto at best, but he's probably white too, and with an actual tan. Donovan, I'm not sure, but he's clearly not Caucasian. I'm guessing he was supposed to be black.
>>102064072
I agree. I read the Golden Age like 5 times, and some parts even more.
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>>102063430
What about the fairly high probability that she's mixed race? Any number of white Midland or Chuder nobles and soldiers over the generations may have had some input on what Casca is.
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>>102064244
It's a possibility.

All I can guarantee you is that she isn't black.
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>>102063430
I assumed she was suppose to be Roma or something.
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>>102064513
Guess where they originally come from? India.
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Daily reminder that Casca enjoy her sex with Griffith more than when she was with Guts.
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>>102064231
>Explain why that sounds ridiculous.
Happy to, though this is purely my take on it. Don't take it as some argument against you, you can think whatever you want.

In my opinion, it seems as though Casca being of Kushan origin (even second generation) would have been addressed in some way, considering that the Kushan were such a major plot element throughout multiple arcs and for various reasons. Throughout all this, it was never was it pointed out that Casca was a Kushan woman by anyone, ever. It was not even remotely hinted at. This is the primary reason why I lumped her in with the likes of Donovan and Pippin, who also seemed not to garner much if any attention due to their ethnicity. Whatever their unnamed ethnicity is, the locals seem to think its normal that they'd be around.

This is in complete opposition to the exotic Kushan. When Kushan people were introduced it was treated as a big deal. When Silat appeared at that tournament, he was treated like an outsider. The King's assassins were treated like an exotic rarity. Then of course during the entire time the Kushan army was marching on Midland and its neighbors and everyone was on the lookout for Kushan forces, Casca was still ignored. Hell, they were quicker to accuse her of being a witch than associate her with anything foreign. My conclusion, based upon the way Kushan are treated in the narrative and the way Casca suffers no stigma, is that nobody in-universe considers her Kushan. She to me, that's evidence enough she isn't.

>He could be a mulatto at best
I doubt any of the "black" people in Midland are purebred African Zulu tribesmen or anything like that. They're all mixed to some degree, I'd wager. They seem to be lower class in general, with the exception of Boscogn.

>but he's probably white too, and with an actual tan
Seriously?

>Donovan, I'm not sure, but he's clearly not Caucasian.
Fine, one's enough. Anyway, it makes me wonder how other races would be portrayed. East Asians, for one.
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>>102064231
>Explain why that sounds ridiculous.
Happy to, though this is purely my take on it. Don't take it as some argument against you, you can think whatever you want.

In my opinion, it seems as though Casca being of Kushan origin (even second generation) would have been addressed in some way, considering that the Kushan were such a major plot element throughout multiple arcs and for various reasons. Throughout all this, it was never pointed out that Casca was a Kushan woman by anyone, ever. It wasn't even remotely hinted at. This is the primary reason why I lumped her in with the likes of Donovan and Pippin, who also seemed not to garner much if any attention due to their ethnicity. Whatever their unnamed ethnicity is, the locals seem to think it's normal that they'd be around.

This is in complete opposition to the exotic Kushan. When Kushan people were introduced it was treated as a big deal. When Silat appeared at that tournament, he was treated like an outsider. The King's assassins were treated like an exotic rarity. Then during the entire time the Kushan army was marching on Midland and its neighbors, everyone was on the lookout for Kushan forces. Casca was still ignored. Hell, they were quicker to accuse her of being a witch than associate her with anything foreign. My conclusion, based upon the way Kushan are treated in the narrative and the way Casca suffers no stigma, is that nobody in-universe considers her Kushan. To me, that's evidence enough she isn't.

>He could be a mulatto at best
I doubt any of the "black" people in Midland are purebred African Zulu tribesmen or anything like that. They're all mixed to some degree, I'd wager. They seem to be lower class in general, with the exception of Boscogn.

>but he's probably white too, and with an actual tan
Seriously?

>Donovan, I'm not sure, but he's clearly not Caucasian.
Fine, one's enough. Anyway, it makes me wonder how other races would be portrayed. East Asians, for one.

Fixed some bad typos.
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>>102065204
You seem to forget something pretty important in all of this... Casca, Pippin, etc... are all dressed like normal Midlanders. The Kushans that people notice are dressed like Kushans. To me, this shows that people in Midland are used to seeing people of many races, but aren't used to seeing people of different cultures.

>Seriously?
Well, look at him. Apart from his big lips, he looks pretty Caucasian to me.
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>>102064875
>Lesbian batman cosplay sex
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>>102064402
>It's possible she's mixed
>there's no way she's black at all
If Miura revealed the existence of an Africa in Berserk and suggested that Cascas parents or grandparents came to Midland from that region how mad would you be?
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>>102065528
I wouldn't be mad at all because I never really liked her anyway. And because I don't necessarily dislike black characters either.
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>>102065528
Her parents were poor farmers.
The likelihood of them traveling that far in the middle ages is pretty fucking low.
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>>102065378
Still seems more likely to me that they're simply not Kushan. Just seems like something that would have been brought up.

Far as Boscogn goes, I dunno, he really doesn't look white to me. Wyald had big lips and looked weird, but still Caucasian. I never got that same vibe from Boscogn.

I wish we could have learned more about Boscogn. He must have done some incredible shit to attain such a high rank.
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>>102065737
>Still seems more likely to me that they're simply not Kushan. Just seems like something that would have been brought up.
But Casca really looks Kushan. And nobody's race was ever brought up at all, only nationalities.

>Far as Boscogn goes, I dunno, he really doesn't look white to me.
You know who he looks like? Lex Luthor from some cartoon I watched as kid. Forgot the name. They had exactly the same features; bald head, big lips, caucasian nose, light brown skin. And Luthor isn't black.

>Wyald had big lips and looked weird, but still Caucasian.
Are we talking about the same Wyald? He doesn't look human. Is that really your image of a caucasian?

>He must have done some incredible shit to attain such a high rank.
He was the strongest fighter of Chuder.
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>>102064875
yup enjoyed it so much she reversed to the mind of a child to deal with it
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>>102065613
Boats exist. They travel back and forth between countries on trade routes. Under various circumstances, people could ride on them and settle in a foreign land. It's not entirely outside the realm of possibility.

I think her family had been there for a while, more than a generation or two, but I think someone at some point immigrated from somewhere besides Midland.
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>>102065955
>It's not entirely outside the realm of possibility.
No it isn't. It's just hugely fucking unlikely.
Stuff like that just doesn't happen. A boat ride is expensive and why would you pay for it if there is no prospect of wealth on the other shore?
The US were populated by Europeans when it was the land of hope.
Medieval Europe was not a land of hope.
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>>102065933
We don't know exactly what caused that. She didn't seem to dislike it at all during the act.
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>>102062933
There most probably are. It seems like the story has largely only dealt with two continents, Hell, maybe even just one, and yet they have ships for cross-ocean travel. Probably something out there, just something Guts doesn't give a shit about.
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>>102065884
>He doesn't look human. Is that really your image of a caucasian?
In some ways he looks like an unflattering English caricature to me. In particular the prominent nose and the teeth. Though yes, most of the time he was drawn more like a monkey.

>He was the strongest fighter of Chuder.
And apparently one of its best strategic minds to boot. Interesting character, shame he died right away.
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>>102064231
>The way her nose is shaped, there's no other possibility.
Ever hear of mixing?

As a person of mixed descent myself, I'll have you know my nose is straight, my lips are thin, and my hair is fro'd out
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>>102066093
>A boat ride is expensive and why would you pay for it if there is no prospect of wealth on the other shore?
Ship laborers that eventually sent for their family and settled down? Servants traveling with their masters? Slaves that were set free by their masters upon his death? I dunno, make something up. I never said it had to be commonplace. People like the guy in OP's pic came from somewhere.
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>>102066391
>and my hair is fro'd out
That's a good point. Mulatto always have the African hair. Casca's hair is straight.
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>people still debating over Casca's ethnicity
Why.

Also:
>tfw you slowly start to realize that Berserk is over will never be picked up again by Miura
I always hoped it'd just go on forever.
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>>102066457
>Ship laborers that eventually sent for their family and settled down?
Ahahaha.
You have no idea how poor sailors were back in the day.
>Servants traveling with their masters? Slaves that were set free by their masters upon his death?
I must admit I'm leaving my waters now, but that just doesn't sound very likely to me. Europe was pretty much white.
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I think Casca was designed to be attractive before being designed with the Kushan in mind.
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>>102066177
watch less porn m80
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>>102066663
But it's the truth. Does that look like someone who's agonizing to you?
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>>102066622
There ya go. The first person to show any signs of brain activity. Assigning race to fictional characters that have no distinction of race is a moron's game. Trying to come up with justifications and bullshit theories just makes everyone look stupid.
She's brown, that's all that anyone needs to know of else Miura would have written or said something about it.
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>>102066334
I wonder if we'll ever see anyone from the Berserk equivalent of China or anywhere else in East Asia. Maybe if they ever get to Ys or Ith or wherever the fuck Roderick is from.



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