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Which Fate would you Stay a Night with?
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Rider. All night every night.
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Toshaka's anus.
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That one tsunmage. The one that's best girl.
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Mitsuzuri
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Saber. I want her to violate me.
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Kotomine, of course. If it's only a night the possibility of something bad happening to me wouldn't be that high.
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>>102030640
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>>102031233
>filename
Every time
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>>102030427
her moon is my type.
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I'd take her after school sessions, if you know what I mean.
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>>102032540
You should pay attention in class, anon. That's why you have to take after school sessions,BWAKA BWAKA!!!
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Rin is a cute girl
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>>102032540
My brother of afro-american descent.
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>>102032540
You lost me.
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>>102034213
I want to join her in some physical education.
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>>102035673
Wasn't Taiga an English teacher or something? She's too lazy and unmotivated to teach phys ed.
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Seiba of course
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>>102031090
Kotomine is best girl
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Illya. We'd play all night, I always wanted a little sister.

No lewd of course.
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>>102030427

I'm reading her H-scene in UBW right now.

>I'm wrenching apart her walls with my wet weapon

My sides.
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>>102035915
>Her insides
Fixed.
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I want to befriend Tohsaka.
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Why would I give any answer besides my emperor?
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The Rin. Her bed head is a gift from heaven.
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>>102035915
Wet weapon was a part of the Jackhammer? Always thought that was from one of Sakura's scenes. I'd reread Nasu's ero, but I can't bring myself to do that.
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THERE HAS BEEN SO MUCH FATE THIS WEEK.
I HOPE THIS TREND CONTINUES.
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>>102036156
No, I think Sakura wrapped her insides around Shirou like an experienced prostitute. It's been a while, so I might be misremembering though.
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>>102035768
Depending on how canon you think Prisma is she has been a P.E. teacher before.
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I wanted to start getting into this series.

Should I start off with the VN first or the anime or does it matter at all?
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>>102036367
The anime isn't very good so you should just read the VN.
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>>102036367

VN

I just started it a few days back and I haven't been able to put it down since I started. It is fucking great.
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Seibah. Always.
Rin 2nd.
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>>102036397

Why isn't the anime good?
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>>102035915
>>102036156
You mean TakaJun's ero writing.
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>>102031090
Kotomine is best Rin
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>>102036480

Dragons.

They really fucked up a lot of shit. Read the VN, it will not bore you I promise.
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>>102036480
The animation quality was below-average, it cut out some important story bits, trivialized the character development, and a few other things.

It's actually the reason a lot of people hate Shirou - he doesn't really learn much from his experiences in his anime incarnation.
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>>102036480
It basically mixes things from all the routes into one big mess.
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>>102036480
Because worst route where nothing happens.
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>>102036548
>>102036564
>>102036575

Thanks for the advice guys.

I'll be picking the VN up this weekend then.
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>>102036367
VN. The first route is the least interesting and Shirou is an idiot during it, it gets a lot better with the second and third routes. Don't bother with the animu. After you finish the VN, the Zero anime is decent but not great. However it's not nearly as bad as some people make it out to be. There's also Extra which is a really weird RPG that you'll either really like or really hate, and Ataraxia should be fully translated by the middle of 2032.
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>>102036367
Do you enjoy seafood?
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Lancer could stab me with his spear all he wants.

Subtle.
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>>102036642
>fully translated by the middle of 2032
I thought it was done, what happened!?
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>>102035768
She is an English teacher, but she also teaches archery and practices kendo and wrestling as hobbies.
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>>102036713
and his gay bulges?
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>>102036713
>Lancer could stab me with his spear all he wants.
You would die if he kills you.
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>>102035673
Explain further
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>>102036740

Stuck in editing hell last I heard. VN translations are really a lot of work, but it should be done sometime this year. I'm looking forward to it.
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>>102035831
B Rank Riding skill
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>>102036825
Is this extra CCC? I would love that to come out
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>>102036825
They're not 10 fucking years of work.
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>>102036745
Yeah, but the archery dojo is a complete mess. I'm guessing her English classes aren't much better, but the school would be better served if she stayed in the classroom. Less injured students that way.
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>>102036639
Enjoy!

Also, remember. First, you have to go through Saber's route, 'Fate'. Try to romance another girl, and you will just end up not being chummy enough with Saber, and you'll eventually die. After that, Rin's route, 'Unlimited Blade Works', will be unlocked. That is the route with my waifu in it. Following that, you can go through Sakura's route, 'Heaven's Feel'.
And always read the Taiga Dojos when you die. You'll soon learn what that means.

Your image makes me feel a bit better about myself.
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>>102036639
Here you go buddy: https://thepiratebay.se/torrent/4915049/Fate_Stay_Night_Visual_novel___patches
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>>102036888
They are talking about Hollow, obviously. There has been no word on localizing CCC. You're more likely to get a youtube translation to be honest.
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>>102036952
>implying that Rin wast at her best in Fate and HF

Come to think of it all girls are better in routes where they'ren't main heroines.
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>>102037024
He made zero mention of Rin being better or worse in any particular route.
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>>102036952
>>102036975

Thanks again guys
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>>102037154
Any time
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>>102037024
Well, Unlimited Blade Works has the optional scene 'Rin-sama Embarrassed and Angry'.

And that scene is the best thing that has ever been written in history.
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>>102037024
>Come to think of it all girls are better in routes where they'ren't main heroines.
I agree. I'm a saberfag and I think she was better in UBW. At least if you play with a focus on Saber.
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>>102037144
I liked it when she made tomato sandwiches.
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>>102037154
You might want to keep the type moon wiki open at all times to understand the background and mechanics behind some of the more complicated stuff. Also, once you are done with the VN, you should watch Fate/Zero. So, with that out of the way, have fun reading it.
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>>102037184
Lancer sees you as a man
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>>102036807
I want to train with my sword in her Tiger Dojo all night
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>>102037204
I'm not a Saberfag, but I agree. UBW Saber was surprisingly endearing.
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Is Fate Stay Night the correct place to starts? What's the correct order do this all in?
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>>102037386
you unlock the routes so don't worry
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>>102037386
Stay Night followed by Zero followed by Hollow Ataraxia. That is my opinion.
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>>102037421
Nice and easy, thanks.
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>>102037275

I'll try to see how far I can get before I have too many questions, then I'll resort to the wiki. I like to try to discover things for myself. Thanks for the advice though.
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>>102032540
She's for playing with, not lewdness.
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>>102036906

Yeah they're really not, but it still takes an unbelievably large amount of work to get them fully done. It's not just translating, it's also hacking and image editing and QC and everything else that goes along with it. You need a lot of people with a lot of skill to pull it off. Not to mention it's all being done for FREE.

If I ever get rich I'm going to start a company to do translations on anything I can get my hands on.
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>>102037184
Which scene was that again? I looked it up in the flowchart and I remember getting it, but I don't remember what happens.

It probably wasn't as good as Brave Leader Hungryheart anyway.
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>>102037275
>You might want to keep the type moon wiki open at all times to understand the background and mechanics behind some of the more complicated stuff.
Is there anything that's not easily understood to expect?
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>>102037454
Those two things don't necessarily exclude each other.
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>>102037449
Welcome. Don't get turned off by the long ass intro. If you can't get passed it, the game won't let you save and if you exit, you have to start all over again.
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>>102037544

I miss these
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>>102037357
I liked the more lighthearted Saber focus in UBW.
Not to say I didn't love her in Fate, but the scene where Shirou asks her about her favorite meals killed me. She was so excited and the music that plays.

I hope in the anime they at least add a little lighthearted filler/characterization for her.

>>102037519
When you're agreeing to have Lancer help you, and you say "on the condition you don't go after Rin or anything"
She goes full tsundere

>>102037529
I didn't find it that hard, but if you do have any questions it's a good resource to have on hand to look things up anyway.
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>>102037449
Ooh! I want to add something.

Remember, after a scene relatively early on, you get access to a special pokedex-like thing. Just press escape and you'll find a button leading you to it.
It has information about the characters, but it's built like a DnD stat sheet. It's got stats, passive abilities, active abilities, lore, real-world historical context, and all that good stuff.
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>>102037519
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I would Jinako
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Illyasviel von Einzbern
any other answer is wrong
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>>102037529
Shit like the mechanics behind magecraft and magic circuits, exactly what are Servants, the nature of Reality Marbles, the Counter-Force, Gaia and Alaya etc.
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>>102037688
I just love Lancer's smirk.
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>>102037454
But I want to hold her hand more than anything.
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>>102037783
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I just finished Day 9 of UBW. I miss Rin living with me and calling me Shirou instead of just Emiya-kun. Is there anything good to look forward to with Rin?
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>>102037612
>>102037688
Oh yeah, I remember that part. Yeah, that was good.
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>>102037529
I think there's some Tsukihime carryover stuff that isn't explained as well as it could have been.
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>>102037914
You mean the stuff with Assassin's special move and Zel making a special appearance?
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I would impale Mordred with my spear
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>>102037842

Hell yeah, just keep playing. I felt the same way but as time goes on it gets a lot better. Also Rin teaches you how to operate a jackhammer to defeat Gilgamesh.
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>>102037611
>Kayneth "Fast Wheels" Archibald El Melon

Yep, still funny.
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>>102037980
Wouldn't that severely injure her if not kill her?
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Motherfucker, I would pick Saber. I know you're all thinking

"Ah, she's just a caricature of generic traits for your typical waifu." but NO.

If it weren't for Rin or Illya already grabbing my interest, Saber would be my last choice.

She's aloof, an air-head, someone you want to train with all the time, someone who feels like a woman when she realizes it.

I can't get enough of Saber.
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>>102037612
>>I hope in the anime they at least add a little lighthearted filler/characterization for her.
If anything, her ufotable characterization is gonna be more focused on the darker part of her story.
Prepare for despair.
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>>102037842
Yes, especially in HF.

>>102038077
Yes but isn't that the point of mortal combat?
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>>102037842
Don't worry, my friend.

You aren't done, yet.

I forget, is that before or after the date with Tohsaka?
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>>102037969
Yeah, and I don't think they go into too much depth on Rider's eyes either.
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>>102037842
>> living with me
>>calling me Shirou
This is sad
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>>102038161
>Prepare for despair.
Only if she wins/lives
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W-W-What about Fate/Extra CCC?

It will be translated, right g-g-guys?
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>>102038171
Is what after? Do you mean that?
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>>102038171
That is the date, isn't it? They are walking along the river after all 3 of them stop at the batting cage, I believe.
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>>102038252
What if she lives on and wins Shirou's dick as Saber Alter?
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>>102036480
DEEN.
Ufotable will probably do it right, or at the very least, a lot better.
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Ayako

Nobody ever remembers Ayako
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>>102038371
>Ayako
Shiki prototype.
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>>102038371
Who was she again? That girl from archery club that almost got raped by Rider?
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>>102038425
I think you mean Rider prototype.
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>>102038425
It's funny because they are both equally uninteresting
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>>102038333
I would be tremendously confused and I for one look forward to see how high that shark can jump.

If they do pull something like that, I'd expect something like redemption instead.
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>>102038487
There's no similarity
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>>102036548
Actually, Dragons was Nasu's idea. He even put it in RN.
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>>102038479
>almost
How naive...
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I want to party with Gilgamesh.
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>>102038557
Actually, if you look in the character materials, she was supposed to be Rider. Then they changed the design. They liked the old one though so they included it as a minor character.
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>>102035915
>it feels so good I want to vomit
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Ok, so is it Ilya or Illya
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>>102031233
Pfffrrrrrrttttttt....!!!!!
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>>102038252
>Only if she wins/lives
Saber is close to 40 years old, has already lived her life, and she already "won" with all the glories of her rule. And went down as one of the most notable kings and historic figures ever.
Her past wasn't despair, and that's the point of the Fate route.

The ones despairing are Saber's fans. Saber's end, ended happily. It was sweet and near perfect, but her fans would cry and yell that it wasn't enough.
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>>102038709
Wrong scene. You're thinking of this one.
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>>102038755
Iria
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>>102038755
F/SN: Ilya
Prisma: Illya
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>>102038779
I want to say that there are multiple scenes where vomit gets mentioned, but I have no screens. He was probably just mentioning equally funny ero scene quotes, not necessarily saying they were a part of the scene he was quoting.
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>>102038646
So do I, anon.
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>>102038797
brety gud
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>>102038767
Oh no. I just don't like Saber's ending in HF.
Everything else is fine.

I'd actually be pretty miffed if she magically came back or stayed in Fate.
Last Episode is fine, but the ending of Fate was great. I'm just saying if they do an anime original whatever, that I hope she at least gets a good ending.
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>>102038908
inb4 Mind of Steel only ending
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>>102038755

Either.

Illya would be proper, given that's the spelling of her full name. But given that it's a nickname, Ilya is shorter so it's better. It's also shortened to Ilya officially more often than not.
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>>102038707
And that's why Rider has such a lesbo crush on Ayako?
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>>102038940
MoS ain't so bad, Shirou merely goes full Kerry and will end up killing Ilya and Rin during the war.
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>>102038983

I want to do lewd things to her.
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>>102039027
how the fuck he manages to do that is what interests me
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>>102038983
Prisma Illya make me want to commit a crime.
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>>102038908
>>102038767
The dumb shit about Last Episode is how Fate originally alluded to Saber's happiness. But then Last Episode came and implied she was frustrated and melancholic all along.

Not to mention the changes in implications in regards to Shirou.
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>>102039055
No one knows if he actually does it or not.
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>>102039027
I like the ending. I don't like the people claiming it is the only "true" ending.
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>>102039055

guns, and very carefully

>tfw shirou murdering an unsuspecting rin and illya by poisoning their food will never be animated
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>>102039108
You bring this up every thread, get shot down by that Saberbro, leave the thread, then come back and post in the next thread.

Don't you ever get tired?
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>>102039108
Last Episode did everything right. Waifu can only be happy if she is getting together with a character I self-insert in.
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>>102039239
>implying that he and that Saberfag aren't one and same person
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>>102039239
I don't even browse /a/ that much.
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>>102039108
> Last Episode came and implied she was frustrated and melancholic all along.
Where did you get that from?

She was content with her life, that was the entire point of her character. When she became the king she knew sacrifice would have to be made, and it wasn't until she recognized it that she was okay with it.

Last Episode is just her going "I want to see Shirou again" and waiting for him in Avalon. I don't see that as 'frustrated and melancholic', unless there's something I missed.
There was no complaint about her life.

>>102039200
Why do people call it the true ending? Rationalization of the path Shirou would most likely take or something? Not that I'm going to run around screaming 'it's wrong', I'm just curious
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>>102039075
>no route
>not even a single H-scene
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Shirou.

I mean, everyone is staying the night at his place. Must be something awesome going down.
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>>102038797
I didn't know Nasu posted on 4chan or liked american football.
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Honestly? Nero Saber or Mordred Saber.
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>>102039376
I would like to be bros with Shirou. Seems like he'd be fun to hang around for just that reason.
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>>102039368
But she does have an H-scene.
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>>102039482
fuck you
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>>102039365
>Why do people call it the true ending?
Because they're obsessed with the idea their waifu is the canon one, and disregard even Word of God that "all [Shirou's] answers are equally valid" for the sake of that. Sakura fags drag out the onsen scene to try to argue HF True is it.
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>>102039482
Nope
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>>102039368
That's what makes her pure.
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>>102039368
Being raped by Shinji's small dick off screen doesn't count.
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>>102039591
Nope, she got raped by Rider's vibrator-shaped daggers
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>>102039539
I remember Sakurafags were trying to use Zeltretch as leverage that HF True was the canon ending to F/SN.

Good times.
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>>102039534
>>102039549
It's not my fault you have to put up with dragons and dolphins to see it.
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>>102039646
It is though. Nasu specifically said that.

I'm not even a Sakurafag either. It doesn't mean the other routes AREN'T canon, but HF definitely is, because of Zelretch. Prisma Ilya is also canon because of Zelretch.
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>>102039709
Its only canon as long as Zelretch sticks around
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>>102039365
They think that not abandoning his ideals is what Shirou would have done. They think that following in his father's footsteps is what makes sense with his characterization.
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>>102039753
Nah, just observing it is eough.
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>>102039709
That's not what Sakurafags or HFfags would argue though. Of course those routes are canon. They're all canon for the most part. With them all being canon, HF true certainly isn't the ending to the novel.
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>>102039702
I have no idea what the fuck you're talking about
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>>102037544

Aw man, that made me laugh, and made me sad.
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>>102039753
That is what the True end are. True ends are endings that are being observed by Zel or a creature/being with similar attributes. Anyway, according to Hollow Ataraxia, everything is Canon.
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>>102039810
Please don't generalize like that. I like Sakura and HF but I would never try to argue that HF True is the only canon ending. In fact, I'm inclined to believe that a lot of those who would are probably just trolling, since it should be obvious to anybody who knows enough about TM to realize who Zelretch is and be aware of that particular Nasu quote that it's a multiverse and everything is canon.
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>>102039771
I can kind of see that. I don't 'agree' with it, but I can sorta see their argument. But arguing something is the 'canon' or 'true' ending in a series with so many routes is fucking stupid.

>>102039646
>>102039539
Sounds really dumb.
If we're using stupid logic, Fate is the canon route because Last Episode came last.
But seriously, why would anyone even care?
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>>102039810
>HF true certainly isn't the ending to the novel
Except that it is the ending of the novel, unless you count Last Episode.
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>>102039976
Waifufags.
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>>102038297
I meant the ninth day of UBW
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>>102039984
RN is the definitive version, so if we're being autistic and going by whichever ending is the last one you can get, it would be LE.

>>102039709
>It is though. Nasu specifically said that.
Of course, but he also said that every route happened as well. That's the part that most Sakurafags ignore.
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>No Caster in the entire thread
Plebs.
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>>102040005
But I am a waifufag, and I don't care.
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>>102039954
I was saying that within the context of those people who made those arguements in the past. Not trying to put everyone under that umbrella even if it came off that way.

>>102039984
Where the endings fall chronologically as you read them was the never part of the argument they were making. Yes, of course LE comes last.
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>>102040097
Caster a qt3.141, but I don't want Koichiro to kill me
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>>102040023
No, the date is further on.
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Do you always remember to keep your Fate warm and well-snuggled?
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Daily reminder that Fate Hollow/Ataraxia is 99.5% translated and the script is 74.4% validated.
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>>102040153
He can try.
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>no superior Tamamo
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>>102040235
Nope. More.
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>>102040391
Holy shit, at this rate they'll have finished it somewhere in the next five to ten years!
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>>102040454
Nah.

A new version of HA is coming out with voice acting, so it has been discussed to delay the release until the voicing can be ripped and spliced into the patch, as various RN bits were pulled into F/SN
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>>102039824
In the PS2 remake all the H-scenes were replaced with weird dream-like scenes that meant mana transfers.
That one scene where Shirou has sex with Rin in a dream is replaced with Shirou dreaming about Rin and Ayako making out.
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>>102040180
Of course. I've got a daki for exactly that purpose.
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>>102040514
>A new version of HA is coming out with voice acting

Will there be anything else?
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>>102040454
Yeah! It might take shorter time for it to get released than for you to learn Nip!

>implying that it won't be the disappointment of year
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>>102040514
>new version
>it's a VITA GAME
why

I wanted voiced Hscenes
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>>102040587
Well, it's a Vita port, so I imagine they'll be taking out or replacing the h-scenes.
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>>102040529
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>>102040636

>taking out bath with Seiba
>taking out Rider/Sakura threesome
>taking out Caren rape

why even buy it
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>>102040669
Damn, Shiki is bretty hot.
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>>102040764
>not mentioning pajama Rin happysex scene
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Rin.
Would rek until morning, with her stockings on.
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>>102039365
>Where did you get that from?
>I don't see that as 'frustrated and melancholic', unless there's something I missed.
I don't really know. You tell me.

>...But, I want to see you.
>Even if I must continue in this never ending slumber.
>I still want him to hear this voice.

>If you want to meet again as normal people, two miracles must occur.
>One must wait continuously, one must pursue endlessly. They must realize that it is impossible to succeed yet at the same time be capable of enduring patiently.

>With that warm, dream-like wish; her future eternity can only be endured in this slumber.

>Come to think of it, how many times have I wished to the sky?
>I want to see him.
>I want to see him.
Saber in last episode wasn't content.
Those are just a few snippets I quoted, but as far as I can tell, her supposed well earned peace is all of a sudden painted as something to be endured.
She was not content, it could even be implied that she was fighting. She longed for Shirou, yet had little in means of hope.
I dare say this temporal peace, as described here, doesn't sound to have been very peaceful.
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>>102040790

I dunno, that scene was strange.
I didn't like the reused Stay Night CGs and the 69 scene made Shirou look really off model (with a tiny dick to boot).
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>>102040874
Does Shirou not see the appeal, or did he just not think it was fair?
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>>102040764
>bonus scene
>bonus and a dream
>main story but it's a fake world anyway
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I want to impregnate Caren and marry her with Kotomine performing the ceremony.
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>>102040956
I think it was just Shirou being comically Shirou-ish.
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>>102040955

So? The Hisui/Kohaku threesome in Kagetsu Tohya was a side dream too but it was still fantastic.
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>>102040884
We just had this discussion literally yesterday where someone explained to you why she was content in relation to her life and past, but still longed for Shirou.

I viewed it as a peaceful life, but with still a glimmer of longing for a past love.
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>>102040884
How is that frustrated and melancholic?

All she's saying is that she wants to see Shirou again. How is that sad at all as opposed to hoping?

She WAS happy with her life. But that didn't mean she didn't have a new hope. That's all there is to it. No angst, no depression. Wanting to see someone doesn't require it to be depressing or sad.
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>>102040956
He's too stupid to have fetiches so he probably just wanted to be on equal terms with Rin.
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>>102040922
Despite all that it's one of the best. There's a thread about it on /h/ that's been around for months:

>>>/h/3624540
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>>102039771
>They think that not abandoning his ideals is what Shirou would have done.
Did people really not notice the shoddy translation work, when Mind of Steel completely contradicted UBW and the previous routes?

"I want to be a superhero", is the choice where he compromises his ideal for a less ideal justice.
In that choice, he says he wants to be an ally of justice. It just so happens to be that the justice referred to in that choice, isn't Shirou's ideal one.
It's a compromise. It's not staying true to Shirou's ideals. How could anyone think that after having read Fate and UBW?
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>>102041062
He has a love fetish, obviously.
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>>102040991
I laughed
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>>102041035
You don't need to believe me. But I was not here yesterday, and I haven't discussed this.
If I had, then I probably wouldn't be discussing it again now. And if even if I were, I would have just copy pasted my past posts on the subject from the archive, because I am lazy like that.
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>>102041064
>4 months old

How slow is /h/?
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>>102041041
You can't tell me it sounds peaceful can you?
Happiness disregarded, a hardship is by definition, not peaceful.
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I'm surprised nobody has said Mordred yet.

She's just as good, if not better than her father.
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>>102041334
absolutely no porn
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>>102041334
It might be cool to be a Mordredfag now, but just you wait 5 years until the anime adaptation.
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So, normally the general consensus on best Fate song is EMIYA, but if you take it out of the equation and choose another song, which would you? I always loved Breach ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=da2o-clMugw ). Whenever it came on, you knew shit was about to get real, and it has that great heavy feeling to it.
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>>102041190
I believe you, but I've argued this exact same thing four days in a row.

>>102041233
It's not melancholic. It's patient.
And it's debatable if it's a hardship at all. She's in Avalon, the Realm of King Arthur. She just wants to see him. That's her one goal now, but that doesn't mean she's depressed or anything of the sort.
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>>102041400

But anon, i'm not a hipster for liking Mordred... am I? I mean... I like Medusa too, and Female Assassin, if she even had a name.
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>>102041488
Sword of Promised Victory is the shit nigga
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>>102041488
Time Together. It's the silliest song in the best possible way. Any time it plays you know you're going to laugh at least once.
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>>102036865
E rank swimming though
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Why havent you accepted that Fate is the best route yet?
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>>102041500
>and Female Assassin, if she even had a name.
It's Hassan.
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>>102041512
This.
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>>102041547
I could just do the "teaching the romantic lead how to swim" event.
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Would you eat extra spicy Mapo Tofu with Kotomine?

>>102041488
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLDYPFfnm3g
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>>102041571

It's semi-canon that each personality of the Hundred Faced Hassan has their own identity.
One of the Fate/Zero BD specials named the first useless one Zayd.
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>>102041500
Mordred is great. We can be hipsters together.
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>>102041577
UNLIMITED SWORD OF PROMISED VICTORY WORKS
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7sSGmfeajI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-oMw5ppBFk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7eZia4DxilA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGJSdgwtZw8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EItJYNVKNQI
Also I really liked this one even though it wasnt SoPV:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYTly9nUUd0
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>>102041624
There was also that rejected bit about Waver finding an Assassin loli that didn't actually know she was part of the Hassan collective.
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>>102041707
B-but why would they reject that. It sounds absolutely adorable.
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>>102041703
>That last link
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>>102041707
It was dropped for people wouldn't get confused about who was the MC
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>>102041756

Put too much focus on Waver, made him seem like the lead protagonist, didn't actually add anything to the plot (just an emotional parting scene when all the Hassans are ordered to attack Iskandar).
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>>102041756
Too cute for Gen.
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>>102041756
Exactly >>102041809 .
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>>102041756
Probably primarily because it was pitched as a huge arc, messing up the balance between the protagonists disproportionally.
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>>102041756
>why would Fate/Zero reject something adorable
Anon.
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>>102041547
That is assuming she was capable of swimming. She has no swimming skill at all.
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>>102041806
Yeah, I said I put it in there because I liked it even though it wasn't a Sword of Promised Victory remix
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>>102041702

She's by far my favorite Saber.

>I'm a knight just like my Father!
>My sexual skills are just as high as hers HIS!
>I-if he can please a woman, so can I!
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>>102041809
Rin has scenes where she narrates, and nobody got confused about her.
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>>102041614
Absolutely.
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>>102041979
Why is there a "Decline" button on that phone?
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>>102041933
Well Waver gets a lotta screen time but the MC is supposed to be Kerry and the loli assassin was more about Waver than the loli assassin
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>>102035673
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>>102041933
I thought Rin was the MC for a bit.
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>>102041979
I would accept in a heart beat. Can we all go troll Rin after the Chinese.
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>>102041933
That's because Shirou is by far the character with the most screentime, the most focus, and the most relevant character.

But Fate/Zero's cast? It's not the same. Especially if this arc had been included.
Waver and Iskandar would have had the most story, and Waver already had the most character development.
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>>102042039
I knew a very small amount about F/SN before reading it, so when Rin saw Shirou for a moment in the prologue, I remember thinking "Wait, isn't that supposed to be the MC? He's the guy who needs things explained to him, right?"

Figured it out when Lancer stabbed him, but still, took me a bit.
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>>102041334
Mordred is the only Saber that actually looks her age.
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>>102042132
That sounds pretty Shirou-like mate.
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>>102042019
Accepting is more meaningful when there's actually a choice involved.

>>102042056
But of course.
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>>102042034
I want to wrestle with her for hours until we both pass out from exhaustion.
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>>102042025
>Kerry
>MC
Anon, pls, you could have embarrassed yourself less if said that a boat was the MC
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>>102030427
Fate Testarossa
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>>102042203
Yeah, I'm not the brightest guy. To be fair, I really knew nothing about F/SN (or anything Fate related), and it was also my first VN.
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>>102042132
You could probably make the argument that Rin is as much the heroine of FSN as much as Shirou is the hero even thought the novel and what transpires is seen through his eyes.
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The two best girls right here.
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>>102042224
I didn't know Fuji-nee was interested in wrestling. Her grandfather tried to teach me Sumo once, but I wasn't very good at it.
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>>102042224
That doesn't sound healthy. One of you could get hurt. You should reconsider.
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>>102042373
>>102042394
Shirou hive mind
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>>102042355
I always felt Rin was the secondary protagonist, but not necessarily the primary romance. She works better/is more amusing that way.
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>>102042373
>>102042394
Shirou plz go
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>>102042356
>brotomine fingering a loli
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>>102042373
>>102042394
Shirou-mind?
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>>102042373
>>102042394
dense mind
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>>102042373
>>102042394
Shirou being a tsundere again.
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>>102042185
She's like 8 years old, man.
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>>102042459
and she's blushing. What a slut.
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>>102042464
>>102042480
Steel mind.
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>>102042356

why are catholic priests so bad with children
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>>102042546
RIP Illya
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>>102042614
I think Kotomine isn't exactly an average representation.
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>>102042800
No returns. Store policy.
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>>102042614
She is not a child and she's enjoying it.
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Just how good of a villain is Kotomine?

He's easily 910 material.
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>>102042546
You can't really fault girls for falling in love with Shirou. The feats he did in the story were admittedly nothing short of manly.
If I was female I would probably fall in love with him too.
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>>102041979

Fuck no, I don't have two hours to waste listening to this guy's speeches.
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>>102042394
>>102042373
God damn it, Shirou.
Your teacher is hot and I want to have sex with her.
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>>102043108
Senpai is hot? Does she have a fever? She should lie down - it's very bad if you don't treat a fever.
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>>102043031
Assuming you meant to add a slash, I agree. He's fairly charismatic, has an interesting backstory, acts as a good opposing view for both Shirou and Kiritsugu, and his motives are pretty insane. I find the idea of someone being born with the inability to find pleasure in anything but others' suffering, yet still knowing right from wrong, incredibly fascinating.
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>>102043296
Even Gilgamesh's ideals are great when you get down to it.

It's not that he's some psychopath who enjoys killing people, he pities the modern person for leading such a vapid life.
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>>102043225
Should I get an ice pack? A wet towel?
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>>102043067
Shirou is hella manly. It makes sense for girls to fall in love with him unlike with that other anemic dude.
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>>102043681
When it comes to ideals and motives, Fate tends to be pretty interesting. The characters are rarely boring; even Caster and his Master in F/Z, who were basically just two psychopaths who loved killing, had some interesting view points. I personally found Ryuunosuke's image of god pretty amazing, in a twisted way.
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>>102043067
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The lack of Ilya answers is upsetting.
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>>102043296
>I find the idea of someone being born with the inability to find pleasure in anything but others' suffering, yet still knowing right from wrong, incredibly fascinating.
Honestly, the concept is pretty cliched and we've seen it tons of times before. I only like Kotomine because the characterization was good.
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>>102044146
Well, guess I have to go and find what this is from. OH HO HO HO amuses me to no end, so I must read it
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Someone needs to make a GIF of that scene in the VN, where she bounces across the screen laughing at Shirou. I've never loved a fictional woman more.
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>>102044416
Which scene?
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>>102044416
Rin, obviously.
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>>102044405
I'm pretty sure this is either All Around Type Moon or Prisma. But you should read both, so I'll be intentionally vague.
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>>102044466
If I could remember, I'd do it myself right now. It irritates me to think I'll be spending my weekend going through the VN looking for it. I think it's near the end of UBW.
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>>102044499
Well played, anon, but it's too late. Google search already told me that it's Prisma.

I'll read both anyways though, I've been on a Fate binge for the past 2 or 3 weeks and I don't intend to stop
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>>102044005
who Shiro? That kid needed to step into traffic from the second he was introduced in the story.
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You guys remember me?
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>>102044656
Then he would have been revived by Avalon. You must be all kinds of retarded.
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>>102044683
Yup. >>102040391
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>>102044656
FFFFUCK! I meant Shinji. My brain is in my asshole. Go home me. You're drunk.
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>>102037454
These other girls got nothing on a real woman.
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>>102044730
Jeez, I was wondering why you hated Shirou so much. He's pretty likable overall, seemed kind of harsh.

But yeah, fuck Shinji.
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>>102044656
No, not Shirou or Shinji, but the other dude, the anemic one, DID step into traffic.

He just got another harem-member out of it
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>>102044795
It is impossible to hate a pure maiden like Shirou
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>>102044730
The only reason I like Shinji is because Kamiya did wonders with the voice acting.
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>>102041488
I really like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdRnNHDrxe8 (New Dawn aka Arata na Yoake)
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>>102044808
The kid from the temple?
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>>102044865
It is if you're an lolanimefag.
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>>102044940
(They're talking about Turkeyhandle)
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>>102044808
Issei?

He's pretty cool. He's also gay for Shirou, so we know he at least has reasonable taste.
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>>102044940
You're thinking of Issie
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>>102041921
>>102041702
>>102041500
>>102041334
>>102039456
Brothers of ye good taste, lovers of Mordred
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>>102045001
>>102045028
Yeah! That's the guy.
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>>102030427
Taiga
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>>102045001
>reasonable
>liking an 18+ version of Naruto
You do remember Nasu calling FSN a shonen right?
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>>102044808
The inbred super assassin that sees death?
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>>102045156
so what. are you the fun police? Go shit up some other thread.
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>>102045242
>calling out faggots making stupid statements
>fun police
Wow, stop being a bitch, will you?
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>>102045225
That's the one.
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I'm more than halfway through Fate/Stay Night. I don't really like that saber is being more submissive and less cool. Anyway, what should I watch after that? Fate/Extra?
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>>102045156
But he's reasonably cute.

And a good housewife.
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Some other nice music pieces from the VN:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdPg8tYGEgM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDMXVvHSnJ0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xe821OoYPUY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3L1DEvzsftw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G9NSQIV15uI
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>>102045156
The reason Narushit is bad isn't because it's shonen.
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>>102045129
But anon, we've been through this
>>102032540
>>102034213
>>102036807
>>102037302
>>102037486
>>102042034
>>102042224
>>102042373
>>102042394
>>102043108
>>102043225
>>102043870
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>>102045001
>>102044940
Are you guys retarded?
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>>102045225
Shiki Targaryen?
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>>102045313
read the VN. After you clear Fate, you can see her be awesome in TWO COMPLETELY NEW STORIES!
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>>102045363
Targaryens never became supermen by having their kin fuck and suck each other.
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>>102043067
>needing to be female
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>>102045415
You mean like getting her shit wrecked by a human?
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>>102045313
Fate/Zero follows pretty nicely once you've finished F/SN (and I mean ALL of F/SN). Beyond that, it kind of spiders out, although I guess F/HA should fit pretty close after F/SN if it meets your personal requirements for "ready enough".
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I almost forgot about the remake completely.

Here's hoping they keep Seibuh's blowjob scene.
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>>102041921
Mordred is Purest Saber
It's canon she doesn't know what sex IS
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>>102045313
Wait, are you watching the anime?

Don't do that. Read the visual novel. The character development is a lot better, along with a lot of other things. It also has three routes, and the story plays out way different in all of them. And you get to have sex with many pretty magical ladies.

After that, either watch or read Fate/Zero. That's the prequel. You could play Fate/Extra after that, I suppose. I've heard that the story's alright, but the gameplay is monotonous. Hollow Ataraxia, the sequel to Fate/Stay Night, is almost done being translated, so see how that goes.
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>>102045536
Doesn't mean she won't try to be better than Arturia
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>>102045415
>>102045498
thanks. I'll try to get the vn at some point. Fate/Zero will probably be after i finish a route or two.
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>>102045325
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdPg8tYGEgM

Am I the only one who can't stand the 'daily life' tracks in VNs? Whenever I hear them outside of the VN I feel like I get vietnam-style flashbacks.

It's not like I hate those segments or anything, it's just that the music becomes so fucking grating to the ears after a while.
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>>102045345
Don't care
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>>102045644
Same here brother
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>>102045536
Would be nice if she learns what it is personally from her biker Master.
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>>102045563
Oh of course,
I'm just saying she's the purest.
I want a Mordred
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>>102045325
>Ever-Present Feeling
my nigga
easily one of my top 3 tracks from the vn
while we're talking about music this is also really nice: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFp03Q3cgOU

>>102045644
I feel exactly the same
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>>102045631
>at some point
No. Now. The F/SN anime has this weird effect where it leaves out just enough information that, when you're finished with it, you think "Well, I can see why people might like the concept, but beyond that it kind of sucks." If you actually want to enjoy Fate (or other Nasu stuff), just don't watch the DEEN anime.
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>>102045652
What did you say bitch? Wanna go?
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>>102045708
From what I remember Biker views her as a daughter more than anything
>Try to romance a Mordred
>Angry Biker Necromancer Dad wants to have a talk with you
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>>102045746
>Ever-Present Feeling

I remember getting depressed for a week straight after finishing Fate.
This song brings back such amazing memories.
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>>102045873
Would a Biker Necromancer Dad be a better Dad than Seiba?
I think Yes
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Baz is the purest

>irish ngamewh
thanks captcha
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>>102045644
I just find that track peaceful.
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>>102037980
Mordred is best Saber.
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>>102046095
Enjoy getting a hand job with a prosthetic
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>>102046061
Who was the better Fate/Dad?
Seiba?
Kerry?
Tokiomi?
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>>102046174
Kerry was the best dad, no doubt.
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>>102045914
>Ever-present feeling
>Sorrow
>New Dawn
I know New Dawn is the 'yay happiness', it's over song, but after Fate I just got so down I wasn't able to hear it without falling into depression of sorts. At least until Last Episode. It was too bittersweet for me.
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>>102046095
>Summons Lancer so she can fan-girl over him and fuck him
>Pure
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>>102046154
Are you implying that having a prosthetic hand is somehow a problem?
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>>102045914
Whenever I'm randoming my music library as a whole and it comes up it hits me hard enough what I stop whatever I'm doing and just sit there for a minute, listening. It's amazing how powerfully music and emotional memories are associated.

>>102046174
Kerry for sure
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>>102046284
>Implying you wouldn't do the same for your waifu
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>>102046174
Kerry
Seiba killed her son, and screwed him up mentally
Tokiomi made his daughter a worm-slut
Kerry at least TRIED, he sucked, but he tried
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>>102046348
.....
.....
Fuck, you're right
I concede my point
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>>102046284
She never intended to fuck him

She never had sex and probably doesn't even know how
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>>102046369
>Kerry at least TRIED, he sucked, but he tried
That's exactly why he's the worst. His involvement with anyone does nothing but make them worse off.
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>>102046470
You make it sound like sex is some super difficult maneuver.
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>>102046547
The whole superhero thing was just an unlucky miscommunication. It wasn't like Kerry was trying to fuck Shirou up or anything, as opposed to Tokiomi tossing Sakura to the Matous for wormslutification.
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>>102046547
Compared to
>Neglecting your son and then killing him when he gets rightfully angry at you
and
>Giving your daughter to a Dead Apostle and turning her into a worm slut

Kerry on the other hand was a great father. Look at how he acts with Illya and later on, Shirou.
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>>102046564
If you don't want to just jackhammer away, you have to be a little bit educated.
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>>102046564
Huh?
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>>102046659
Zouken wasn't a Dead Apostle though
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>>102046369
Tokiomi was a good father. He just couldn't read people.
Being a father, was the thing he actually was good at. Ironically.
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>>102045873
So? It's going to be incest which is wincest. Arturia got fucked by her sister and her legend has a lot of homosex with Sir Kay.
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>>102046665
All you really need to do is lube up.
After that, you can do it like animals. No foreplay required!
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>>102046824
It's not actually homosex since Sir Kay's a dude.
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>>102046947
>lube up
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>>102046642
If you're going to rationalize what Kiritsugu did, you have to do the same for Tokiomi. There's no real evidence that Tokiomi knew what Zouken was planning on doing to Sakura or what the worms were for. He knew Sakura would go through hardships to become the next head (supposedly), but there was no way he knew about the worms.

Also, Kiritsugu half-assed raising Shirou. Remember that he left for weeks at a time to try and save Ilya, leaving Shirou alone to fend for himself with Taiga. Then he teaches Shirou a bit of magic, but stops, letting Shirou nearly kill himself every night in the process due to the half-assed lessons.
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>>102047064
Selling out your fucking kid because of inter-family politics is a dick move no matter how you look at it.

Sure, Kerry wasn't great. I don't think anyone is arguing he is. He's just not as bad as the other options. The one thing I can't really defend is the magic training/Shirou's suicidal continuation of it.
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>>102047064
I think Shirou said he sometimes left for months.
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>>102046947
Lube? Animals? Foreplay? You're losing me anon.
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Caster a best.
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>>102047232
And yet they are still better then Aurthur.
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>>102047358
But is she better than Saber Nero?
Protip: Nope.
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>>102047358
F/SN Caster is cutest.
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>>102047232
>Selling out your fucking kid because of inter-family politics is a dick move no matter how you look at it.

From a magi perspective, there is nothing worse than having a child grow up without a crest, which means the kid would have no respect or standing in society. It's the equivalent to not putting your child through college/tradeschool/university and letting them become a manual labourer.

Either that or give the crest to one of your kids and have them grow up trying to kill each other because of it.

>>102047240
Was it months? It shouldn't take that long to attempt to break the barrier then fail.
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>>102047358
she's so fluffy
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>>102047432
But of course
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>>102047432
I still thank Mordred's Master for having amazing taste
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>>102047510
she's old and busted
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>>102047512
Yeah, I believe Shirou said that one time he left for half a year.
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>>102047596
At least she and her story are actuallycanon.
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>>102047598
Jesus christ, get it together Kerry.
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>>102047596
Why the elf ears
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>>102047512
Going back to what you said about Zouken, I find it hard to believe that Tokiomi was completely oblivious to the creepy shit about him, even if he didn't know the specifics. For fuck's sake, the guy is the head of the Tohsaka family. He's not oblivious.
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>>102047510
>that one tiger dojo where taiga calls her on the phone just to tell her that she is a shit waifu
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>>102047512
Remember, he was under the curse of Angry Manjew
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>>102046642
Kiritsugu's origin is making people he gets close to suffer. It was not an unlucky miscommunication unless his entire life was.
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>>102047671
Multiverse anon. Multiverse
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>>102047795
She is Medea.
>what is reading the backstory
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>>102046659
>destroying an entire country
>rightfully angry
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>>102047874
Harem hijinks with no harems and actual consequences
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>>102047944
Does that mean the grail can materialize heores of fiction?
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>>102047815
The Matous and Tohsakas were allies for generations. All magi families are secretive of their magics to an extent. Really, the only thing to suspect Zouken of at that point was being a fucking lich, but there still wasn't evidence of wrongdoing.

Hindsight is 20/20.
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>>102048045
Yes. That has been confirmed many times in every iteration of the Fate series.

A servant that truly existed in some respect is more powerful, but any being of legend can be summoned.
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>Never will receive a proper depiction in an animated format
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>>102048045
Yes. It doesn't matter if you are fictional or real, as long as you have a legend. An interesting example is False Assassin.
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>>102047970
Arthur did that himself when he left for France to for an indeterminate amount of time and left Britannia without a ruler.

You could argue Mordred was just trying to stop the inevitable collapse.
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>>102047574
Kairi was it? Kairi needs to tap dat ass. Might mellow her down a bit like it did her father.
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>>102047970
You also have to remember that Mordred was being manipulated by Morgan
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>>102046174
kariya is the best dad
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>>102048232
She appointed Mordred to rule while she was away.

Who would have thought someone resembling an adult needed a babysitter 24/7?
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>>102047232
>Selling out your fucking kid because of inter-family politics is a dick move no matter how you look at it.
Tokiomi genuinely believed that the Matou would treat Sakura like royalty. The Matou clan was pretty much dead as a magus lineage, and Sakura was like an oasis in an endless desert. Tokiomi thought that the Matou could give her everything he couldn't. He honestly believed that the Matou were the key to Sakura's future happiness.

What he did really was something he did because of his love for her. The irony lies in the fact that if he was a more negligible father and or one that didn't love his children as much as he did, he would have most likely never even bothered to send her away.

Even though all he ever talked about might have been magic related, Tokiomi was implied to value his family above all else. It was his weak spot. Contrary to what appearances he might have wanted to keep, Tokiomi was a fairly average magi despite being of a notable lineage and he knew it. It was his family, his wife and his children, that was the crowning achievement of his life, not his magic. He practically said as much himself outright at one point.

His actions backfired something ridiculously. But they were actions of love, with good intentions.
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>>102036367
Start with Fate/Zero. It's a prequel to the VN. While it's not mandatory to watch it to understand the plot of the VN, it does help get a few references.
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>>102047240
That was attempts to get Ilya
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>>102048265
Mordred had basically betrayed her mother by that point and told the king everything and had no intention of overthrowing her god king until the god king didn't want to be a father figure.
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>>102047574
Kairi used a piece of the Roundtable
He could summoned any of the Knights, so the grail chose the one most suited to him
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>>102048481
You're suppose to read the VN first......
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>>102048576
No you're not.
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>>102048402
If we're talking about intentions instead of outcomes now, then there's nothing to condemn Kerry for.

No, that's bullshit, you're right. Kerry not properly teaching Shirou magic and half-assing it is pretty awful.

>>102048481
What the fuck, why?
>>102036367
Only do that if you want most of the narrative tension of the VN spoiled.
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>>102048503
Because the king was not to have attachment. The king is supposed to be a king, not a human being.

Arturia sacrificed her humanity when she became King Arthur
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>>102048402
you are fucking stupid if you think he didn't know she was going to be worm food
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>>102048571
Yeah, the LN did say that. Kairi and Mordred had a high compatibility because of the variable nature of the piece of the table. You just end up wondering why they are very compatible with each other.
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>>102048632
Fate/Zero was created with intent of you having an understanding of FSN first. It not exactly mandatory but its the intention considering all the spoils it brings
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>>102048234
She's still only a child. You can't have sex with children.
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>>102048632
Yes you are. Fate Zero almost completely spoils parts of the VN. Who the hell watches or reads prequels and or sequels before the initial material?
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>>102048317
>Who would have thought someone resembling an adult needed a babysitter 24/7?
Are you talking about Mordred or the people of Britain? If you mean the latter, then yes, that was the basis for her entire legend.
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>>102048690
Which leads to the fact that she didn't understand other people's feelings, the source of her downfall. She was completely unaware of how much of a petulant child Mordred is.
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>>102048271
Kariya was already broken from the beginning. He sugar coated his dark goals and desires, with a heroic paint-job. But in the end his drive was at its core jealousy of Tokiomi, and a vengeful desire to get back at him.
Parts of him even resented Aoi for choosing Tokiomi and not himself.

The sad part about Kariya, is that more than saving Sakura, or caring for Aoi and her family, he wanted picture related with his place instead of Tokiomi's. And he resented the entire world for it not being the case, Tokiomi and Aoi included.
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>>102048871
Agreed. She definitely was, but wasn't that the tradeoff? As the king she had no humanity. But that she eventually came to terms with that fact and was proud of what she had done?
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>>102048815
It's both in the case of Nasu version.

Have you read the translated bit of Mordred's back story detailing her betrayal in Apocrypha yet?
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>>102048885
Kariya did resent everything but all his actions in the war were for the sake of Sakura until Kerie.
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Would you tickle your Fate?
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>>102048710
There really isn't anything that would confirm Tokiomi knowing the true deal behind Matou's craft. Magi families, even allies, don't share that kind of information.
Chances are decent enough that he didn't actually know.

Even if he did know that though, the miss Tokiomi did was that Zouken never valued Sakura more than a pawn. A tool to be used.
Zouken was never actually interested in a heir, and you are probably stupid if you think that Tokiomi didn't think otherwise.

He was certain Sakura would rise to be a queen. Not stripped of her potential, and thrown aside for a sick scheme, to not be picked up.
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>>102049178
Do I look suicidal?
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>>102049305
It'd be a death worthy of a man.
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You'll never have a threeway with Sella and Leys

;_;
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>>102049178
>tickling Tamamo no Mae
I don't think my heart could take it.
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>>102048746
She's a clone of Arturia and managed a fucking kingdom. What the fuck is with the shitty moralfags that are suddenly popping up right now?

She's the same kind of being that Irisviel is and Kerry worked her rump.
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>>102049486
>Lewd Homunculus
Not sure if Want
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>>102048978
Wait, there was?
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>>102049585
I doubt it's moralfaggotry. There is virtually nothing morally reprehensible with Mordred having to mana recharge with her Master anyway.
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>>102049661
http://forums.nrvnqsr.com/showthread.php/3173-Fate-Apocrypha-Free-Range-Spoiler-Thread?p=1423418&viewfull=1#post1423418
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>>102049585
nope, he just made a donation
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>>102049785
───It was an uncomfortable dream.

Mother whispered into my tender ears:
"My dear son, become a knight and overthrow our king. As my son, you have a right to the throne. However, should the king knows of this now, he will surely...... Therefore, for now we must lie low; for now we wait."

I don't want to hear
Noises appear.

I don't want to hear
Ill will emerges.

I don't want to hear
I wish to ignore them.
An artificial life, born of a twisted lineage; I grow faster than others, age faster than others, and shall die faster than others.
While those innocent children are frolicking about in the village, I am already practicing the art of swordsmanship ─── yet we are of the same age.
By the time they reach adulthood, I shall have already withered and passed away.

I admire them. I envy them. I hate them.

So I swore to become a being that surpasses mankind; I must outpace them.
It was given that I shall be superior to everyone else.

Led by Mother, I gazed at the figure of the king from the dark.
Valiant. Calm and determined, like steel.

"That is your target. The enemy that must be defeated. The king that must be overthrown."

Impossible, I thought.
Because the king was so perfect.
His decisiveness. His swordsmanship. His tactics. No matter which aspect you look at, he was only too perfect.

Therefore I gave up defeating the king, although this means I must betray Mother. I decided to join him, to become his blade and cleanse the filth.

───I will become a knight.
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>>102049585
I understand the argument. But Kerrytugu isn't exactly the shining example of morality.
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>>102049585
Irisviel was made lewd and Mordred was made innocent.
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>>102049823
He made many donations in her cunt.
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>>102049847
Shit dad is shit.
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>>102049930
After first jerking into a cup
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Anyone have those pictures with Hard Gay as Kiritsugu?
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>>102049486
[x] rape the maids
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>>102048710
See:
>>102049215
>>102048048

>>102048681
The problem with Kiritsugu was that he cared for Ilya more than he did Shirou and it showed. He should've either taught Shirou magic CORRECTLY, or not at all. But his concern for Ilya and deteriorating health made him oblivious (or maybe he didn't care) to Shirou's own struggles.
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>>102050269
And then inserting his penis in her vagina,
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>>102050586
If by penis you mean medical semen syringe
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>>102050519
Don't you need to suck off Akiha, Tohno Shiki?
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Ilya.

Would stay up all night with her doing...things.
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She really wasn't nearly as good as Rin, was she?
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>>102050640
I never thought there would be someone dumb enough to think a medical implement is a penis.
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Would you give your Fate a hug?
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>>102050728
She was fucking boring.
Why would you ever choose her over Rin?

>>102050768
of course
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>>102050728
She doesn't wear hot enough clothes.
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>>102050728
Not really.
But she also wasn't a faker.
Plus there was no way I was letting Rin get her hands on my Archer
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>>102050728
Don't know to be honest. I chose Rin all 3 times. She could have been ok, I guess.
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>>102050586
You lost me.
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>>102050800
You will never be her sheath.
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>>102050586
?
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>>102050930
You will never be her baka
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>>102050723
But if you don't sleep won't you be tired the next day?
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>>102050746
I never thought there would be someone dumb enough to think they actually had sex.
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>>102050800
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Zero and Prisma Illya are daughteru tier
FSN Illya and Miyu are jackhammer tier
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>>102051252
>TRUST YOUR "BUDY"!!
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>>102051329
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>>102051150
>husband and wife
>not fuck
Yeah, because those pictures in the ending of the show surely showed them not being very close to each other.
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>>102051329
You would think that's just shitty engrish. But it's actually a semi-clever pun.
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Notice how there's only one Fate worth having her own thread

>>102023576
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>>102051080
But of course we'll see in during the day. Wake up during evening to mostly laze around while Ilya will slowly teach me magecraft.
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>>102048885
Kariya only wanted to save Sakura and had nothing against Aoi. It was because of the worms that he became twisted into resenting her and hating Tokiomi.

>>102048402
>Even though all he ever talked about might have been magic related, Tokiomi was implied to value his family above all else.
Bullshit. Did you even read the LN? Tokiomi says the greatest thing he could ever achieve was making it to the Root, even if it was a ONE WAY trip. He even made preparations to leave his family behind. Tokiomi vauled his family second, not first.
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>>102051703
>while Ilya will slowly teach me magecraft.
Do your best, so you can protect her!
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>>102051703
>shiroudoll was considered a bad ending.
Horseshit.
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>>102051573
What pun? Like Budy sounds like Booty? Because I'd place my trust in Ilya booty any day.
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>>102051909
Buddy and body baka
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>>102051703
>sleep*

>>102051825
You betcha, anon.

>>102051857
I guess some people believe Shirou will stay that way forever.
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>>102051817
Tokiomi thought that reaching the root was about the best thing one could do, be it himself, his family, or someone else.

The point was that he considered his family to be the best thing in his life. Or his greatest achievement if you may.
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>not indulging in hot gay steamy sex with best servant
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>>102051817
>It was because of the worm
No. It was because of jealousy and his hatred of himself over losing to Tokiomi and not even being the one to kill him. Worms don't affect your mental state at all.
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>>102052138
Ur a faget
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>>102052138
Only if Gilgamesh was a woman and voiced by Rie Tanaka.
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>>102052106
>Tokiomi thought that reaching the root was about the best thing one could do
>The point was that he considered his family to be the best thing in his life

So you're admitting that he still prioritizes the Root over them and if he ever makes it, he'll choose it over them. And you would be right.
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>>102051817
He loved Aoi, but he did indeed have his grief with her as well.
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>be rewatching fate/zero
>come to mini-rin episode
holy fuck, i can't handle this much cute
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>>102052248
>and if he ever makes it, he'll choose it over them
Reaching the root would make his entire clan one of the most notable magi families in all of magi history.
You can bet he thought it would benefit them.
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>>102052244
It can be arranged
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>>102052244
>Femgamesh
>Shiro is the most unique sword, he must be added to her collection
.....I want
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>>102052284
The Rin episode was one of the very best F/Z episodes. And it was something I hadn't already read in the novels, so I appreciated it greatly.
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>>102052284
Canada or midwest?
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>>102052405
I'm having a hard time not saving an image every 15 seconds
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>>102052467
/a/ generally has shit taste for typically disliking the episode.
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>>102052461
>08:30
PST

>>102052525
Really? I don't think I've ever actually seen that in all my time lurking type-moon threads
Maybe I'm just oblivious
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>>102052266
I don't think so. He seemed to be accepting of her decision and held no hard feelings, even going so far as to try and save the daughter of the man who stole her away from him.

>>102052174
>Worms don't affect your mental state at all.
Teehee

>>102052326
That's rationalizing. He wanted to do it for the prestige he would get first and foremost.
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>>102052743
If he wanted the root only for himself, he wouldn't dwell so about how much it would mean his descendants if they were to be lucky enough to reach it themselves, and the glories they would gain by doing so.
He pretty much just thought that reaching the root was winning at life or something. He didn't want it just for himself.

That wouldn't make sense. Considering how much he speaks about his family, both in the novels, the dramas, and the spinoffs.
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>>102052743
He loved Aoi. And he loved Rin and Sakura. But he wanted them to be his children, and he hated Tokiomi with all his fibre. and deep down despised Aoi for choosing that man over himself.
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>>102052935
>If he wanted the root only for himself, he wouldn't dwell so about how much it would mean his descendants
There's nothing wrong with wanting his descendants to succeed, but first and foremost he himself wanted to succeed. I'm not really saying it's a bad thing since hitting the Root is like achieving enlightenment, but you're a fool if you think he puts his family above that achievement.

>>102053103
>But he wanted them to be his children, etc. etc.
Nope, just worm delusions.
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>>102053103
Not really its just Zouken, Kotomine, Berserker, and worms fucked him up at the end
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>>102053602
>but you're a fool if you think he puts his family above that achievement.
I just don't really see why they have to compete. Reaching the root was greatest aspiration, but his family was crown jewel of his life.

To gun for a certain goal doesn't necessarily mean you don't value other things. And it's not as if his aspirations and love for his family had to compete or anything.
It might have messed up Rin pretty bad, and despite his intentions he sealed Sakura's future instead of giving her a new one. But I doubt he saw reaching for the root as something to conflict with his family.

It was just the family business so to speak. His greatest aspiration or not.
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>>102047772
It's noted by Shirou that Kiritsugu was literally never home aside from a few sporadic days until the end when he realized he was dying.

Shirou raised himself here, or Taiga did it.
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>>102054171
>I just don't really see why they have to compete.
Because by achieving his goal, he would be leaving his family behind to fend for themselves without a father. And like you said, his obsession with the Root resulted in him giving up Sakura, thinking the only way she could find happiness was with a magic crest.

I'm not saying he's a 'bad' person because he was raised that way, but I don't think he was exactly a good father or cared much about his family either.
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>>102054383
He cared he was just a Magus to the core.
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>>102030427
Rin, sakura and rider threesome
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>>102054383
>thinking the only way she could find happiness was with a magic crest.
Magi people tend to be happy with their magic crests though. I don't really see why that philosophy would need to be attacked just because it worked out horribly in this case.
I mean, most magi probably feel utterly cripples without them.

And I don't think reaching the root would necessarily be leaving his family behind. And in theory, they could all benefit from it.
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She's a bitch, She's a lover,
She's a child, She's a mother,
She's a sinner, She's a saint,
She does not feel ashamed;
She's my hell, she's my dream,
She is nothing in between,
I know I wouldn't want it any other way...
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