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I resented getting so little of the main trio at the start of this arc, but i've grown to like Scrub Horizon and based Crusty so much im going to miss them when the next arc focuses elsewhere
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Isn't the next arc just the festival though?
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>>102026396
Worth it for more girl of the season
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Reminder that this Girl is now the Queen of Log Horizon Thread
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Its a shame that the gigantic army battle only took up two episodes, but I'm looking forward to the festival as long as there are no ewoks.
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Does anyone know when the soundtrack is going to be out?
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>Flavour texts and other details now have real effects
>Krusty's armor is called Einherjar armor
>In norse mythology Einherjar are the souls of dead warriors collected by Valkyries to fight for Odin in Ragnarok
Death flag confirmed!
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>>102027114
NEET princess is so perfect
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Nothing remarkable about the volume scans
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>>102027558
How come the descriptions are in English?
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>>102027975
Because someone edited them.
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>>102027558
It got its own flavor text in ET though
>worn by brave warriors led by Valkyries
>Phantasmal classs so pretty much everybody knows about it
>Raynesia was dressed as a Valkyrie
OTP OTP

>>102027975
It was translated. Wish they did something about the scans at least. The black isn't black enough
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>>102027558
>dem items
Naruhodo naruhodo.
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>>102028359
>Naruhodo naruhodo.
Pls
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>>102027114
dat cammertoe
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I wanted to read the LNs and started with volume 5 but it's pretty damn exhausting to read. Some sentences just don't connect make any sense at all. Is the translation just shitty?
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>>102029258
*or make any sense at all
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>>102029258
Really? It seemed fine
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>>102029510
There's some things, like repeating someone's name over and over in a few sentences when a pronoun could've been used or some unnatural wordings or there being no context at all between sentences.

I thought I was used to translated LNs but then again I'm probably spoiled by js06's Index translations.
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Why is she so fat?
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>>102029258
The translation is pretty bad. It's written in the wrong tense so it's awkward to read and there's tons of grammar errors and shitty wording. People are editing it on BT so the readability is slowly improving.
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>>102029830
Well, these are J-C-E translations, so they ARE kind of bad when comparing them to js06. But beggars can't be choosers, I'll gladly take a slightly awkward J-C-E translation over nothing at all.

At least it's a professional Chinese translation he's using, god knows how a fantranslation would look like.
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>>102029258
>Is the translation just shitty?
Yes.
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>>102029830
Where are you reading from? I think there's an edited version. But yeah, the speed translation is like that
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>>102029830
>I'm probably spoiled by js06's Index translations.
Never seen a fan translated LN I could stand, ill check i out
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Happy Valentines day faggots
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>>102029977
I wish they would make audiobooks out of LNs. I can understand spoken Japanese if there aren't any difficult words in it from watching so much anime but reading anything beyond kana is impossible for me.
Oh, speaking of audiobooks, are there rips of the drama cd that's been summarized in the OP pastas? I can only see the songs on nyaa.

>>102030642
Index has over 30 volumes and almost all of them were translated by js06. He's even translating new volumes within weeks of their releases in japan. I heard the first few volumes were botched up by baka-tsuki editors though so you probably shouldn't take these as example.
You could try Waltraute instead, it's a oneshot by the same author and translated by js06 as well.
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>>102030841
Valentines day episode when?
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>>102031067
Never
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>>102031067
Never, please look forward to cake episode
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>tfw only 1 month of database left

I hope there will be a second season
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>>102031067
But I want to see Rudy trying to get the perfect gift for MISSU ISUZU
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>>102031236
MISTAH TOYA always tickles my ears better
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>>102031067
Guess the Libra Fest arc could be considered as one. In episode 22 or something

Also 34h 27m
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>>102031110
Please, OTP
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>Scrubs in the novel version
Hey this is kinda cool
>Scrubs in anime
OH GOD WHEN WILL THIS SHIT END?!

I don't know why I feel this way, but it be.
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>>102031208
>I hope there will be a second season
Just SAY WOW WOW, WOW WOW
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Just finished volume five and still not seeing what's so great about Nureha aside from that she's really really attractive. Shiroe seemed to only attract creeps too
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>>102027462
I also want to know. That rising score when the RTC is formed and whenever else something epic happens is amazing.
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>>102031067
Halloween episode when?
Christmas episode when?
Onsen episode when?
Playing with fireworks for New Years episode when?
Skiing episode when?
Cooking competition episode like in that Nyanta manga spinoff when?
Wacky inventions episode when?
Teaching Landers how to ride bicycles episode when?
Using said bicycles to stage a Tour de Eastal episode when?

Why are cute SoL situations the only thing I'm looking forward to?
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>>102031626
>Cooking competition episode like in that Nyanta manga spinoff when?

Krusty will win
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>>102031626
SoL OVAs written by Mamare and animated by KyoAni?
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>>102031806
Why KyoAni?
It doesn't really matter what studio animates them as long as it's fun and cute.
Oh wait.
Since Log Horizon is by Satelight...
HOTBLOODED KARAOKE CONTEST EPISODE WHEN?
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>>102031456
She as brilliant as she is beautiful and she wants the D. It's a winning combination.

Plus, thanks to magical Adventurer bodies, she's no longer ruined goods.
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>>102031945
>HOTBLOODED KARAOKE CONTEST EPISODE WHEN?
Rudy would win it no problem, he'd just go all Freddy Mercury on them
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>>102032002
Imagine Krusty berseker in karaoke?
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>Summary of Log Horizon Drama CD 1, Souji-sama hentai nano~
http://pastebin.com/MRMBNfp4

>Use the best Log Horizon wiki
http://lh.oksub.me/wiki/Main_Page
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>>102031945
Because they make cute SoL shit
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>>102032090
>Krusty sings some screamy metal song
>Isaac sings an emotional ballad/enka
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>>102032090
>Tfw he points to you in the audience
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>>102032318
>They finish and the winner is decided
>but the crowd screams for encore
>they deliver
>everyone who participated singing DATABASE DATABASE
Just imagine how amazing that would be!
Where's Mamare when we need him?
We better hammer some SoL ideas into his head next time he appears.
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>>102026396
How many of the LNs are translated?
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>>102032090

MY LOVE FOR YOU IS LIKE A TRUCK

BERSERKER
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>>102032836
Up to Volume 6. Totally worth the read.
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>>102033153
sweet, I'm flying across country tomorrow. can't read mango because muh powerlevel

then on baka-tsuki?
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Daily reminder people of the land are players that died so many times they lost their memory.
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>>102032716
>loads of magic classes on the sides of the stage
>they make a fancy as fuck light show during DATABASE
>fire and smoke columns by sorcerers, bards boosting the volume, blasting everyone's eardrums out
I wish something like that would happen, Satelight is fucking great at animating concerts.
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>>102033372
Then why do they level quarter that of an Adventurer and is permakilled if they just lost their memories?
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>>102033454

I want a Karoake episode, personally
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>>102033454
>Mosh pit forms
>Naotsugu casts motherfucking Anchor Howl to bring all the bumping his way
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>>102033238
>https://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Log_Horizon
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>>102033658

>Naotsugu vs Isaac in the Mostpit
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healthy druid >>>> shitter miko
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>>102033880
What would actually happened if they both used the ability on the crowd? Would they not be able to mosh with either without getting hit with the others ability?
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>>102034058

They'd be the only people alive at the end of it.

Krusty too. Upon witnessing the mosh pit, he would've been overcome with Berserker bloodlust and joined in.
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>>102034328
>They'd be the only people alive at the end of it.
I can imagine NEET princess surviving by virtue of spending the concert tucked up behind the sound system napping
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I can tell I really like a show when the porn makes me feel bad.
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>>102034566
Oh god, how horrible.
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>>102034509
No no no.
She'll be forced to participate in it too and she'll sing an embarrassing magical girl opening.
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Lets keep in mind that everyone at it would be a hardcore MMO player. I think at least a few characters should be comically awkward and shy. Akatsi is a shoe in, along with a chunk of Scrub Horizon
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>>102034778
With a fitting frilly pink attire and a toy staff with a heart on it to go with it of course.
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>>102029858
Because her husbando is a chef.
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Ha ha, time to re-watch the first arc in BD
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Enough with the little kids, I just want focus on the main trio and the round table
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>>102035519
And I want more Tohya.

And Doggy, RIP.
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>>102035519
Instead of showing the battle through the eyes of the camp kids, it should have been in Shiroe's perspective

What a waste
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>>102029830
I'm in the middle of the second Index novel and jesus christ is it so fucking painful to read. When does it get better? Because I'm really about to drop it
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>>102035829
Index is shit no matter how good the translation is.
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>>102035799
>Instead of showing the battle through the eyes of the camp kids, it should have been in Shiroe's perspective
But the battle wouldnt have been tense whatsoever from Shiroes perspective. The adventurer army had no problem with the goblins, it was near the edge with the kids where the danger was
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>>102035799
Shiroe wasn't fighting, though.
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I find myself enjoying this more and more with every episode, but it's almost ending. No time for lots of stuff, lowbies farming gear, the main trio exploring the new content, and more battles with the high levels.
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So

Name your class, subclass, and overskill
How would you live in the database?
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I wonder if this season is going to end on nureha or not. I mean that would be the logical cliff hanger though i suppose they could end it just before the festival
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>>102037148
>Bard
>Maid
>Anime only fag so dont know what that is

No fighting for me, the clean easy domestic life
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>>102037148
>Monk
>Courier
>FreeRunning

Actually act as a courier for the Round Table Council in Akiba and the surrounding areas, maybe even going to other cities to safely deliver items, messages, or anything else the RTC needs.
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>people saying Shiroe will be NTR away by Minori
>Minori is literally 14

why
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>>102037432

Nigga are you me?

Race you faget
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>>102037272
Overskill is a new skill or magic someone creates or discovers through fucking with old game rules to do things you couldn't do before, like Shiroe pulling off new contract magic with his scribe abilities or walking on small Kannagi barrier spells to walk on air.
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>>102029858

She's not Japanese.
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>>102037492
That's almost too old to partake in compensated dating in Japan.
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Why is this so much better than Sword Fart Online?
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>>102037492
No laws in Elder Tales.
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>>102037513
Likely human.

Do I sense the possibility of a small Couriers Guild being founded?
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>>102037693
Because Kirito chanes the world by cutting shit.
Shiroe does it by opening McDonalds
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>>102037693
Let's not do this.
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>>102037148
>Summoner
>Tracker
>Camouflage

I will learn how to stealth and/or disguise my summons. They will appear out of fucking nowhere. TRAPDOOR ELEPHANTS, HO
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>letting yourself be limited to one overskill

What are you a moron?
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>>102037759

>Shiroe
>changing anything

He serves as the author's self-insert, nothing else.
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>>102037852
Being a moron is my one and only overskill.
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>>102037759

You mean like when Shiroe, Assassin-chan, Tank-Kun, and Cat-chef fucked up that whole guild to get the fat girl back to Akihabara?
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>>102037869
Please, not this discussion again.
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>>102037852
Enjoy being able to do 5 things half assedly
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>>102037939
Well it's true. His only role is to show up and have some women fawn over him, then occasionally do something edgy.

The worst one was when he interrupted Krusty and Isaac's dual moments before the deciding blow.
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>>102037852

Better to be master of one than master of none.

That said:

>Not being a fucking wizard

You people are complete morons. Nuke-izards are best class.
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>>102038105
We had this discussion yesterday. Let's not compare shows.
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>>102038105
That's not shiroe you dumbass.
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>>102038105

>His only role is to show up and have some women fawn over him, then occasionally do something edgy.

You mean like when he was the only person who realised that you can buy the guild hall, bought the guild hall, and then instead of just jewing the shit out of everyone he created a representative republic?
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>>102038175
My wish is that I could be a muscle wizard like Rudie.
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>>102038175
Enjoy licking your tanks boots so he doesnt decide to do some solo-ing while you get your face caved in
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Daily reminder that minori dont do a shit in the noob party and only cast two skill, she is just leeching XP and think that she is a tactician
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>>102038269

I wish that there was a glamazard class so that Rudy could be as fabulous as he deserves to be ;_;
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>>102038184
>>102038105
>>102037939
>>102037869
>>102037759

>mfw I thought we were talking about Soujirou
>mfw I've been typing 'Shiroe' for every post without even realising it and insulting based glassesvillain

...fuck me. My bad man.

Soujirou a shit
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>>102038105
That's Soujirou anon
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>>102038345

What the fuck is Minori's class supposed to do, anyway? I vaguely remember that she can do some healing?

>>102038374

Soujirou is just DPS, mang.
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>>102038424
she block damage, she cant even heal, but she can atack mobs but she dont even do that
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>>102038374
>Not liking harem leader
>Not liking a good Gary Stu character
I want to fuck Soujirou's boypussy.
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>>102038269
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>>102038424
>What the fuck is Minori's class supposed to do, anyway? I vaguely remember that she can do some healing?
Most of its to do with setting up barriers and preventing damage, but they didnt show nearly enough of it in the anime
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>Catchef is the only swashbuckler we're going to see in action

Wait, Soujirou duel wields as well, is he a swashbuckler too?
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>>102038361
>I wish that there was a glamazard class so that Rudy could be as fabulous as he deserves to be ;_;
>Entire class focuses on summing a gigantic lightshow, disco balls, familiar backup dancers to confuse the enemy, before he just steps forward and punches them to death
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>>102038460
She's a Kannagi, she can create shields and buffs her teammates.
Also, she's a field monitor. In a hectic battle, nobody got time to look at their own HP and MP, so Minori do that for them. She also watch over the battlefield and decides on the battle strategy.
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>>102038424
Barriers. basically stoneskin for people if you've played final fantasy.
There's also a ton of other useful shit she could ahve been casting on the wiki like a goddamned movement speed buff she could have used to kite the mobs, a 24 hour recast offensive skill which also makes barriers that gets strongeron the mob's level so she could have nuked the living fuck out of those wolves.
In short Minori failed haaard.
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>>102038603
Samurai
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>>102038624

>Also, she's a field monitor.

That's an emergent tactic, rather than an actual game feature though.

>>102038613

When they revealed the bard class I legit thought that was what they were going to do until it was just the DnD songbuff horseshit again.

>>102038671

Oh, good, another teambuff class.
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>>102038603
Isn't Shouryuu another swashbuckler?
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>>102038740
>That's an emergent tactic, rather than an actual game feature though.
Yes, and?

I bet you don't even MMO.
Git gud.
Go play some RTS.
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>>102038740
It's a bullshit tactic. stop trying to pretend it's useful.
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>>102038624
You dont need a tactician against normal mobs, she cant even do his job right, everyone in the party already know his role, but minori still think that she is the hot shit and the tactician of a fucking "lvl 26 average party", even serara know that when she isnt healing she have to attack but minori cant even do that simiply task
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>>102038613
I bet the Indian server has a special Bard class replacement that can bust out random Bollywood dance numbers to manipulate the battle.
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>>102038895
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDHCLjuOzXY
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>tfw you already read this show in the nineties

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guardians_of_the_Flame

Git gud, fagets
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>>102038671
Remember that she's only mid 20s. She probably just got that other 24 hour spell, with this one being probably at level 50 or so. She provably only has barrier, the 2 heals, and maybe an attack and buff spell
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>>102038954
Too bad that series is shit
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>>102038895
>>102038935
Damnit, I can't stop imagining someone walking into a Lander village and laying down an area wide magic spell that incites them all to drop what they're doing and dance with him.
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>>102038813
Yes.

>>102038876
The direwolves are clearly normal boss monsters.

>>102038895
I'd love to see that.
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>>102039022

>guardians of the flame
>shit compared to Log Fucking Horizon and Sword Fart Online

Pick one and only one.
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>>102039023
Or maybe someone challenges and defeats the Goblin King through a dance-off, becoming the Goblin Dance King at the end.
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>>102039044
not really, they were just normal monster above their levels, minori cant do a shit.
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>>102037492
Minori's based, she can do whatever the fuck she wants.
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>>102039126

>Minori's a mary sue

Fux't
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>>102039074
>implying I compared anything

No need to be mad that you like shit
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>>102038624

>Kannagi

If Minori really wants to be hot shit she'll go get Nazuna to teach her how to walk on air
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>>102039107
>few levels higher than the gobs
>only two in the area
Sounds like a boss monster to me.
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>>102039160
I don't care. She makes a fucking killer pose in the OP. So sick.
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>>102039160
nigga you can't call anyone in the series a mary sue with Soujirou standing right there brah
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>>102038993
I thought so too at first but Isizu had a bunch of spells I thought she shouldn't have been high enough for in the latest episode so I'm thinking the customization for players with spell tiers starts soon.
Even with Bards getting a large number of skills something as useful as snail's ballad surprised me at being available already.
Of course she might not have specced herself in a way to unlock that but there are a myriad number of ways her "strategist role" failed when it was finally actually needed.
I also admit the paper horse was going to be useless in all of that rain.

Honestly the real prolem was that there was no plan for if they faces something out of their league. Those giants Krusty beheaded would have raped those noobs badly when they could have had a plan for kiting or ping pong tactics until backup arrives.
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>>102039357
This. Raw levels seem to count for a lot, but basically they were tossed into shit creek real quick without a paddle.
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>>102039298

How is Soujirou a mary sue? He just doesn't get enough screen time.
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>>102039470
He has his own manga.
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>>102037758
Why would you need couriers?

You have guild chat and the bank.

And from the latest novels, the bank transformed from a standard storage bin, into a legitimate free-lending-trade building so you just drop off items in someone else's account.
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>>102039518
How long until he gets his own movie?
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>>102038474
aaaaand now I have a new /tg/ reaction image.
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>>102039713
-after mondaiji s2
-after nobuna s2
-after horizon s3
-after [insert your favourite anime's lack of next season here]
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>>102039518

...Why?

>>102039703

>Why would you need couriers?

Hypothetically, if you'd set up a mining operation, it would be cheaper to have someone running iron or whatever to your engineers than to do it yourself. Mail is dead, though, yeah.
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>>102037148
Bard
Scholar, if it lets me write music down. If there is no such subclass, then whatever lets me make instruments.
I can get a tune stuck in your head, meaning I can make my buffs and debuffs persist indefinitely after the first casting.

I make an orchestra out of like-minded Adventurers. Initially we play the default Elder Tale instruments, which based on the ballroom scene are probably late baroque / early classical era. But later we'll hook up with crafters to re-invent the modern ones.
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>>102039986
>...Why?
Because.
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>>102039298

Soujirou ranks pretty low on the Sue meter, all he's good for is fighting and attracting bitches and even then he still loses fights and Nazuna knows his psychotic reactions to anything happening to his girls could ruin him or the guild at some point.

If there is one in this series it's probably Krusty, dude's perfect. He's the leader of the biggest and best guild on the server, a capable war leader who is one of the few who can boast having taken command over a large of players before Elder Tale became real, one of the top tier players in his own right and able to deftly maneuver in the political game with the nobles.
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>>102040253
>If there is one in this series it's probably Krusty, dude's perfect
Not to mention having a literal princess drooling over him
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Why are even the nameless characters in LH so delicious?
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Can someone explain why Marielle is so fucking protective of the newbies in the training camp when the fishdudes attack and Choushi or whatever it's called when the fishdudes are attacking the vanguard? They're immortal.

>>102040253

> He's the leader of the biggest and best guild on the server, a capable war leader who is one of the few who can boast having taken command over a large of players before Elder Tale became real, one of the top tier players in his own right and able to deftly maneuver in the political game with the nobles.

Apart from being the baddest bitch on the battlefield post May-day, it seems completely reasonable for all of those things to be embodied in the same person. Being a guild leader is basically politics 24/7.
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>>102038954
I started reading that recently. Dwarf is the best guy.
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>>102039895
Nobuna ;_;
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>>102039988

>Scholar, if it lets me write music down

I'm pretty sure everyone can read and write; Scribe seems like it'll let you making binding contracts within the gameworld.

As well as crafting writing supplies for some reason.

Does the Meido sideclass just let you clean real gud? Seems like a silly choice. What else could it do?
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>>102040515
>Can someone explain why Marielle is so fucking protective of the newbies in the training camp when the fishdudes attack and Choushi or whatever it's called when the fishdudes are attacking the vanguard? They're immortal.
Dieing isnt fatal, but it is very very unpleasant
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>>102039160
>Kanami is a mary sue
Fixed
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>>102040515
Her motherly instincts went to overdrive since she's partied with Naotsugu.
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>>102040642

Maybe, but it's not depicted as being particularly unpleasant.

>>102040691

Well, that I could believe.

>No /ss/ with Marielle
>Ever
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>>102040661
This. Kanami, by all accounts, is essentially Suzumiya Haruhi playing an MMO.
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>>102039703
>>102039986
I figure moving mindless paperwork, sensitive documents, and unpublished studies between guildmasters would be a lot of it. Transporting stuff for Nobles and other Landers would work, 'cause I don't think they can use the guild building at all. I don't think there would be absolutely no work for me in ET.
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>>102040515
Just because you don't die when you're killed doesn't mean dying doesn't suck a lot. Shit hurts yo.
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>>102039986
>...Why?
Japs keep buying harem shit.
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>>102040495
>Why are even the nameless characters in LH so delicious?

All Horizons are best Horizons. This applied to the first Horizon show and it applies to this even now.
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>Nyanta is a furfaggot and nobody cares

It hurts to live in this future
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>>102040515
>They're immortal.

Most people are still thinking emotionally rather than logically.

Krusty is a notable exception.
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At least WWB girls and Soujirou are delicious
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Is Log Horizon japanese Elder Scrolls fixfic?
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>>102040997

>that completely fabulous faggot in the back row

Never stop, Japan.
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>>102040997
I just realized the monk girl in the anime had a more tamer design compared to the manga one.
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>Soujirou
Highest DPS (Damsels Per Second)
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>>102041053
>over time, the player will assume their avatars voice and even a personality change

Doujins of Dulce NTRing Souji from his harem when?
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Time to dump some Lesbian Wind Brigade raws.
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>trying to get friends who generally have good taste into LH
>they just don't seem to be into it
>realize half the reason for this show's popularity is all the autohype we've self-generated through these constant inbreeding threads and our expectations for shit that only makes sense with all the knowledge of the novels and the external supplementary data
dangit
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>>102037148
>Summoner/Necromancer build
>Sigilmaker
>Undead Army (let's me summon more or something, haven't thought much on it)

Live in a run down house and make it appear haunted. Go out and kill monsters for gold/items every once in awhile. Also every weekend I will personally host an event for beginning to mid levels where the goal is to kill as many of my summons as possible. Top 10 will receive special items as an award, all participates will get at least 2000 gold. No PvP during the event unless its against my summons, anyone seen doing so this will be disqualified and eliminated by my army immediately.
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>>102040997
Polnareff what are you doing in Log Horizon you can't use a Stand in the database!
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>>102041279
Necrobro, how about we work together to make a new type of skeleton? Skeleton wheels
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>>102041122
Soujirou has another competition, this is a chapter about her
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>>102041426
Why is she so rapeable?
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slut lander
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>>102041366
Yes, it will be the glorious and maybe I could use it for an advanced competition for end game players.
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for a crazy lesbian shes pretty dam resourcefull
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>>102040632
>>Scholar, if it lets me write music down
>I'm pretty sure everyone can read and write; Scribe seems like it'll let you making binding contracts within the gameworld.

Manually, sure. But Scribes do more than just contracts. They make their own higher quality paper and ink, for example, and auto copy stuff. That'd be way helpful for making sheet music. (And even when someone eventually does making printing presses, there probably aren't enough musicians for the economy of scale to favor using them for music yet).

Also I goofed and was using Scribe and Scholar interchangeably when they are two different subclasses. Oops. Meant Scribe in this case.
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would you?
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>>102041283
>Middle finger while waving
How cute.
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>>102041821
Every single one of them.
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and done
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I wish I could into moonrunes.
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>>102041366
>Skeleton wheels
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>>102037148
Swashbuckler
Butler
Swashbutler
Crit on serving tea while dua-wielding teapots
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>>102038474
>right to left
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>just finish ep 19

HOLY FUCK THAT ENDING

RUUUUDY!

Am I the only one who actually shouted at the screen when the reveal happened?
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>>102040253
Nigga tanked a lv 110+ guard with a sword that got a large buff for EACHand every every single character in the vicinity in a city of over thirty thousand. That overskill is well beyond bullshit range.
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>>102042174
/a/ spoiled me for that scene and the scenes after that. I didn't even change expression.
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>>102041477
>>102041526
Why is Sara the best WWB?
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>>102042174
If by shouted at the screen you mean typed furiously in the stream chat with all the other watchers, yes
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Best dog.
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>>102037148
To add to these questions, what would be the name of your guild? What would you character's design be like?
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>>102042275
Yeah pretty much this. I was still in the dark about how it happened though. I was glad to see he at least died like a little champ
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Can People of the Land impregnate adventurers?
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>>102042279
>dat hot body
>dat cute personality
10/10 would rape again.
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>>102042489

>what would be the name of your guild?

Afterschool Teatime

>What would you character's design be like?

Presea

>>102042491

>I was glad to see he at least died like a little champ

We'll see what Shiroe has to say about that next episode.
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>>102042531

>rape
>Sara

Not the best idea
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>>102042615
I don't care. I'd rape Souji too.
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>>102042574
I know I know but he still kinda did it. That is to say he was willing to do it.
I still really want to see what happens when he dies as a subclass adventurer. What meta memories does he even have to offer to the moon sea?
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>>102042201

As bullshit as they are in one on fights the combat one's like Soujirou's or Kanami's infinte combos are low tier when it comes to Overskills.

The really good ones are the ones that can change the world like Nyanta's or Shiroe's
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>>102037148
Assassin
Scribe
Auto-Scribing

I'm gonna travel the world, kill monsters, which automatically updates my journal so I know their stats, weaknesses, etc

Gotta kill em all!
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>>102042174
Did he drop any good loot?
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>>102043791

Since the body didn't died, they can probably strip his corpse.
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>>102042996
pls
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WWB is the SAO of LH.
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>>102044411

Bullshit, Soujirou and Nazuna haven't played house with Sara as their daughter even once
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>>102044677
>Bullshit, Soujirou and Nazuna haven't played house with Sara as their daughter even once
But that sounds wonderful
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>You will never see the Debauchery Tea Party spend an evening off by roleplaying Cyberpunk
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Wow. I just watched it. This show just keeps getting better and better. The animation for this episode was pretty great and the plot just keeps getting better and better as well. I'm getting sad now because there's only a few episodes left. Do you think there will be a second season?
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>>102044677
I would actually read it

>>102044411
Hadn't done anything too bullshitty atm to merit that opinion man
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>>102045425

>the plot just keeps getting better and better as well

It'd be hard not to be better than the horseshit that was the first few episodes. Like when they were getting Serara out of Susukino, why didn't Nyanta just fly her out of there on his Griffin?
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>>102045514
>That tophat cutie on the far right
She will be my Valentines today!
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>>102045802
>Like when they were getting Serara out of Susukino, why didn't Nyanta just fly her out of there on his Griffin?
Its pretty common MMO rules that you cant use flying mounts like those in towns
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>>102045514
>Veteran players used as communications slave
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>>102045895
>>102045802
Plus there's still the matter of having someplace Nyanta can easily take her. They can only use griffins for a few hours per day, and I wonder if just Nyanta and Serara could make it all the way to Akiba on their own. It was feasible with three other level 90 players he knew well however.
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>>102046986
>and I wonder if just Nyanta and Serara could make it all the way to Akiba on their own
No way one high level player would be enough to forage all the food Serara would need
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>>102046922
>Letting people you don't trust be the center of ops
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>>102045802
Because someone would've told Delicious that Serara was out in the streets and they would've just camped the town entrance.
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>>102045514

>all of these not-fantasy outfits

Have these devs never heard of verisimilitude?
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>>102047362
>verisimilitude
Yeah, I had to google that word
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>>102047565
Me too anon, me too.
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>>102047565
>>102047689
Me too. Lets form a club!
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>>102047565
>>102047689
>>102047783
Me four
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Would you conscript yourself in the name of NEET princess?
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>>102048470

Where did this Build Fighters looking bitch show up from?
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>>102048531
What?
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>>102046922
>All female
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>>102049220
The villain in glasses needs release frequently
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Would you Naz Nazuna's Zunas?
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>>102049945
Not the anime version of her
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>>102050245

Besides not doing fucking anything, what's wrong with her in teh anime?
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>>102050401
>teh
P-please
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>>102050591
Calm down, it just happens from typing too quickly
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>>102050693
Fine. Have more Nazuna
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>>102050591
>>102050894
Hnnng

Would join WWB, Souji's the only straight male member right?
He'd make a great drinking buddy.
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>>102050591
I gotta ask, are boys like Soujiro really that popular in Japan?
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>>102051784
Have you ever seen a male idol group? And I can feel some bitterness from Mamare towards such boys from reading the novel
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>>102051639

>Would join WWB

Are you a cute gril?

If not, you're not getting in.
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>>102052137
Boys can join. They choose not too, too painful
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>>102052203
Unless you're gay.
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>>102052137
>Implying Souji would discriminate
I can handle not being the popular one
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>>102051784
Yes and no. Souji is someone who's really popular among teeny-boppers and /ss/-prone women who like cute boys doing cute things, a pretty boy who isn't sexually intimidating letting young girls uncertain of their own sexuality to fantasize about being with someone of the opposite sex.

Basically like how someone like Justin Beiber is super popular among the same age group, but more mature men become increasingly popular as girls age and come into their own as women.
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>>102052137
>>102052203
>>102052250
Soujiro would probably lust after an older guy he looks up to like Shiroe. In fact had Shiroe had joined the girls would probably schlick all day to yaoi fantasies where Soujiro plays bottom to his harsh sempai.
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>>102052702
>In fact had Shiroe had joined the girls would probably schlick all day to yaoi fantasies where Soujiro plays bottom to his harsh sempai.
Hoo. Thorn bind hostage on your eyes
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>>102052137

You can if you're gay Polnareff
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>>102052702
>>102052794
>The girls secretly run an underground doujin market where they pair up Soujiro with Shiroe, Isaac, Krusty, William, etc.
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>>102051953
>>102052506
I love these analyses.

Supports one reasoning in which male adventurers don't join WWB, because it would be similar to joining a guild of crazy fan-girls for some teen idol.

This, in addition to the face-palm suffering adventurers feel while seeing Soujiro magically getting bitches.
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>>102054463

>This, in addition to the face-palm suffering adventurers feel while seeing Soujiro magically getting bitches.

I think we need a straight male to join the guild so that there's someone to be NTR'd.
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>>102054463
>Soujiro magically getting bitches
While that's the male fantasy way of looking at it, it's more likely the guild exists for crazed fangirls to own, control and covet an idol.

WWB is a harem guild, but it's more accurately a harem made up of Soujiro while each girl acts as co-mistress.
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>>102030235
So where are these character cards from, anyways? Inserts with the DVD/BD?
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>>102058079
Yes. Nothing remarkable from the scans
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>>102054738
Besides having said he had 4 girlfriends when he met with Nyanta and Shiroe first time we haven't seen Soujirou do anything that would actually support WWB being a harem guild in anything but name only.

The only person he seems to have close moments with is Nazuha. And even that could easily be elder sister relationship.
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So why exactly did Serara decide to make herself fat? And isn't dieting obsolete when you could just use an appearance potion?
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>Rooty tooty fresh and fruity was an NPC all along
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>>102061425
Didn't they say in the beginning that appearance potions were rare as all fuck?
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>>102061570
That was basically a full respec potion. The production guilds figure out how to make more limited appearance potions. (Which theoretically, I suppose you could just chug multiple if needbe?)
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>>102035913
Index has a pretty damn boring start.The more you get into it the more you like it and you have to get deep into it before you start liking it.
It's kinda like Log Horizon in that aspect but it just has a way flatter curve.
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>>102042174
www.youdubber.com/index.php?video=hsTtDXnq5jM&video_start=0&audio=kOWu2fW7zz4&audio_start=0
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>>102035829
js06 picked the series up pretty late, there's at least the first 8-10 novels that are badly translated.

Everything js06 worked on is near pro quality
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>>102037786
CREEEEED!!!!
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>>102053199
>>The girls secretly run an underground doujin market where they pair up Soujiro with Shiroe, Isaac, Krusty, William, etc.
Maybe they could blackmail Shiroe and his high level scribe skill into helping
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>>102062862
>Shiroe writes doujin on endgame-level paper
>Becomes reality
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Something a bit different...

>Guild

>Position

>Status before RT

>Status after RT
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>>102064432
>>102064485
>>102064540
Imagine how lazy she'll be in bed when they finally start fucking. The coldest fish in the barrel.
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Any news on the TRPG?
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>>102062942
>Naotsuga walks in on Shiroe while his hips are moving on their own
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>>102042705
what was nyanta's overskill?
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>>102064432
>>102064485
>>102064540
She wants his DDD
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>>102064908
Like fucking Jesus performing a miracle.
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>>102064485
GOAT screenshot
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If one could purchase the Guild Hall building and make it private property, surely a player/guild would have already done so to have complete dominance over a city?
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>>102066223
shit is fuckin expensive man
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>>102066374
But it only took three guilds to raise the funds
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>>102066223
Other people did elsewhere, just like other people figured out the cooking thing in other regions around the same time Nyanta did. But the amount of dosh necessary was huge so the number of people who could pull it off to begin with was tiny, and most people were too busy with their own shit it to think of the implications of a "buy this house!" button being added, assuming they even noticed to begin with.
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>>102066420
>added

So buying Guild Hall wasn't possible while it was still just a normal MMO?
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>>102066412
3 for the guild house

then there is the rest of the city

I think shiroe does so in the later novels
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>>102066412
Three of the largest merchant/crafting guilds in the city each with members in the 100's at least

Oceanic systems is somewhere in the thousands
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>>102066443
>So buying Guild Hall wasn't possible while it was still just a normal MMO?
No, that would have broken the game
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>>102066496
Ok that is all I needed to hear.
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>>102066443
No, they even mentioned that fact when Shiroe was explaining his plan I think. A ton of buildings became purchasable that weren't for sale previously.
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>>102066223
The thing is owning the guild hall does fucking nothing. Sure it denies use of guild space and bank in the guild hall but players don't really need much to survive in the world. It would actually be far healthier for the society if they learned to live without such silly video game functions.

Plus since landers of Kunie clan run the bank you propably could setup a system where you can deposit and withdraw shit from your account without entering the guild hall.
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>>102066549
Where does the money go
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I haven't read or know anything about the Light Novels. Anyway, from the preview, I am getting a huge vibe that Shiroe is going to come around, and use straight up magic to revive the little nerd, completely outside of the game's skill/spell system, and it's going to change fucking everything. Am I right?
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>>102066582
I think magical disappearing money might be one of the remaining game abstractions.

Although it's also possible that the money is just teleported to some kind of mega money vault somewhere, and someday someone will ask that very question and prompt a Borderlands-style hunt for the mythical dosh vault.
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>>102064485
>high impact sexual violence
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>>102066582
Back into the massive bank on the moon, where it is held until a monster dies, which causes funds to be deducted as loot.
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>>102047362
Have you ever played a MMORPG?

Doesn't matter if it's a fantasy setting. There are always cosmetics that can be everything from school girl outfits and bikins to modern casual-wear.
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>>102066582
It's a video game world, zone purchase and maintenance fees are gold sinks to keep inflation in check. In the game world the gold just magically manifests from dead monsters and jew clans running the guild halls and banks collect money to be sent back to the source.

The whole society is based so adventurers have to kill monsters all the time. Vidya magic.
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>>102066558

The guild hall has a 100% safe bank held by 100% honest Landers. Do you realize how valuable that is?
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>>102066784
Yes and those 100% honest landers could be asked to allow for adventurers to give money to them outside the guildhall and then the landers deposit it to adventurer's account. Reverse for withdrawal. All you need to do is propose this fucking idea to the landers running the bank.
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>>102066784
Landers were 100% honest when they were NPCs. Now that everyone is becoming fully fleshed out complex human beings, that could very well change.
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>>102066742
>>102066730
>>102066723
Next question is, doesn't this make Shiroe an autocrat? If the council is beholden to him
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>>102066920
Nah the council is oligarchy. They are only limiting themselves with bare minimum human rights and otherwise can do whatever the hell they want. They're all dictators.
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>>102066985
But if Shiroe has them by the balls with his ownership of the Guild Hall, he is still above them

Furthermore, he can use the force/funds of a compliant guild in order to control/expel/punish other guilds
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>>102066898

WELL THEN I GUESS WE BETTER CONVINCE THEM TO STAY HONEST
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>>102067141
If they stop being honest you can just drag them outside the city walls and kill them.
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>>102064817
>Shir-what!?
>Hoo, Thorn Bind Hostage on your eyes
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>>102065023
Food
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>>102067067
That's true in theory, but in practice they're mostly assuming that Shiroe isn't going to be a huge dickass about it, which he really hasn't been.

And it's not like they NEED the Guild Hall functions, they're just super convenient. If it came right down to it they could just start doing things manually if the person who owned the Guild Hall was being a gigantic cunt. The only irreplaceable loss would be the perfectly secure bank, but any of the major guilds probably have the manpower and assets to secure their shit without it if necessary.
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>>102067397
The problem is that all of their goods are already in HIS bank
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>>102067397
Yes it's like instead of having a monopoly on banking they could have numerous competing banks each with their owns standards and systems!
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>>102067442
It's not his bank anon. He just can prevent everyone from using the guidhall and bank IN AKIBA, not every guildhall and bank. Akibans just can't get their shit out of the bank in Akiba, they don't go anywhere.
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Shiroe says they need to treat the People of the Land well because war is possible.

But the humans are immortal, war is possible but not practical
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>>102034566
fatalpulse doujin when?
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>>102064540
>Krusty always know what Raynesia is thinking
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>>102067503
he already owns the guild hall, it's technically his, just because he can't take items out from other people's account doesn't mean that it's not his, when he can restrict the original owner's actions.
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>>102067535
Landers are only useful for base economy and quests. They're pretty much servants without whom life would be awfully bothersome for adventurers.
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>>102067618
I thought he was implying that these Landers are real human beans, or at least are developing towards that

Do they respawn like in a game or are they a normal population with births, breeding and deaths?
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>>102067678
Who rules the Landers? Is there a king? Lander nobility?
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>>102067678
His point was that human/adventurers are immortal while landers die like little bitches so war, although possible, certainly wouldn't be practical since there could only be one winner.
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>>102067614
They can just go to a different bank to withdraw their shit. Then buy a building and make their own bank if they really feel like it.

Or grab a random Lander and have him carry a letter to the Landers running the bank informing them that everyone's bank accounts are being held hostage and that they need to work out a solution, since Landers are people now and can do non-scripted things.

There are plenty of ways to tell someone abusing their ownership privileges to fuck off. It's a powerful bargaining chip but there are ways around it.
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>>102067741
What level are Landers? Because if they are like level 1 commoners then I don't even think one human death would occur
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>>102067442
not his, its in the generic bank. silver sword just moved and kicked delicious out to get their own town with bank and stuff
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>>102067752
Who can access and withdraw from a Guild's bank?
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>>102038876
To be fair, you don't step up at max level and do raid calls without having practice. She's just starting earlier than she probably should is all. She SHOULD be more focused on learning how to play her own class first, not on learning to tell others how to play theirs in non-raids.
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Fellow Adventurers, which novel does pic related come from?
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Can you have sex with summoned creatures?
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>>102067828
I don't see why not.
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>>102067811
Yes everyone's focusing too hard on using the stat screens when they should be learning to know their own bodies. You know, so they would know by heart what their HP and MP levels are.
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>>102045514
As I watched this scene I was like "Man, I sure hope they get XP for this shit too."
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>>102067850
Excellent.

As an aside, has physical relations been brought up in this series?

I am only up to episode 10
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Mithril Katabira
Production-class garment woven out of Mithril threads. It is delicate and not painful if worn on bare skin, and can be wore together with armor. Nazuna usually wears this under her clothes but she tends to wander around wearing ONLY this whenever she's drunk. On such occasions the others would catch and throw her back into her bedroom before Soujirou sees her.

Dem net tits
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>>102066922
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>>102068006
yes, anon yes it is. It's very tasty, would you like a glass? *unzips pants*
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>>102068006
>t-t-they understand us
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>>102067936
no it is supposed to be family friendly so no lewd shit like hand holding. But being a lolicon is ok.
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>>102067936
Hasn't come up yet, but if you're asking if putting ponoos into vagoo is still how babies are made then yes. That hasn't changed.
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>>102067859
They have to learn too, don't they? What happens if they're in a position where there isn't someone who can go "By the way, maybe you should heal?"

Seriously, her doing what she is at that low a level, while good practice in some ways, is hurting everyone in the long run. Hell, even in my guild in Rift we still run into people who are so reliant on raid-calls that they can't even move out of stuff on the ground that is KILLING THEM without being told to by someone else. Minori is already fostering that sort of reliance in her party, notice nobody seems to be able to do ANYTHING without her telling them to unless it's very basic stuff. I mean, hell, a tank should have situational awareness to pull mobs onto himself, he shouldn't need anyone to tell him to do it as an example.
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>>102067731
yeah you know how all the landers in akiba bowed to the banners of neet princess's grandpa?
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>>102068045
No thanks, the only pisswater I drink is starbucks.
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>>102068045
>*action
pls
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>>102068105
I-I have milk too, just takes a while for me to fill the cup. You sure you don't want to give it a try anon? It's thick and tasty.
>>102068129
Sorry I should have used /unzips dick
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>>102068102
Why don't the adventures just massacre the king and his family/nobles?

If I was level 90 I'd just become king
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>>102068219
because friendship is magic and shiroe will find you, hunt you down and make you his friend.
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>>102068219
Because most of the adventurers aren't murderhobos. And simply killing the king doesn't make you king, it just makes you a dick.
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>>102068314
Well if you killed the king, his family, the nobles and all top officials then there would no longer be any threat from the Landers
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>>102068353
Sure. Instead there would just be a massive power vacuum because you just obliterated the established power structure of an entire nation.

That isn't better.
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>>102068392

Thats okay, we can create the Sex Empire!
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>>102068314
In the modern world yes, but this is in a medieval setting. peasants will follow who has power, and if you manage to kill the king it just shows peasants that you have more power than the previous king.

Until peasants get a brain and start a revolution.
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>>102068392
It can be filled by adventurers.

All Landers are now slaves, exclusively owned by an adventurer
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>>102068392
ISN'T IT!?

somemenjust...jpg
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>>102068433
They can't revolt successfully. Their rulers (adventurers) are immortal and astronomically more powerful
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>>102068433
>>102068440
Which works great if all the other adventurers were like-minded, but surprisingly most of them seem to be well-adjusted human beings who don't think slaughtering the rulers of the neighboring nation and setting up a strongarm dictatorship is such a hot idea.

And thank god for that.
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>>102068433

This is a fantasy setting that is about to get steampunked out the ass, full of Adventurers that have lived and breathed 5000 years of history and government with a near 100% literacy rate. There shall be a kingdom of conscience up in this bitch.
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It would have been hilarious if one of the councillors had brought up the point of why nobles even rule during their meeting. Adventurers are obviously better than them in all aspects.
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>>102068509
It sounds like you think the Landers are people
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>>102068509
The main problem stems from a simple logic:

'Landers do not have anything an Adventurer wants.'

They don't want a title, a land or a kingdom. That shit is a liability.
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>>102068509
Which is bullshit because it is human nature to do so, and it is still extremely relevant and pervasive even in modern times.

But everyone is a moralfag and incorruptible and if you aren't shiroe finds you and does his friendships is magic thing.

You're a race godlike beings with the potential for immense power capable of subjugating the world and reshaping it in your own image and no one gets corrupted by such potential for power cause the writer wants the big bad to be super power smart mobs.
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I have a question about LH. Why is it that absolutely nobody is looking for a way BACK to the real world? I mean, yeah I know shit is hitting the fan with world events, but the first thing I would do in that situation is look for what brought us here, and what can take us back.
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>>102068688
cause it's magic and the writer doesn't have to explain shit.
Just give it up and enjoy the thing for what it is, neets and cripples more content to be stuck as super heroes in their new world than to go back and face reality irl. Seven books in and people are still more content on dungeon crawling and finding unlimited jew gold.
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>>102068678
Exactly. There was a shit ton of abusive assholes before the round table and they just magically stopped being assholes? Surely they would have seen the magnificent prospects of the surrounding lander settlements. The japs in Log Horizon are just so incredibly obedient little bitches (not even questioning round table's rule at all, it's not like it's your life they ruling over).
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>>102068757
>neets and cripples more content to be stuck as super heroes in their new world than to go back and face reality
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>>102068757
Dont get me wrong, wanting to be a superhero is most peoples dream. But nobody misses their family or loved ones?
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>>102068757
Explain why the log horizon world is less "real" than Earth

Or why one should go back to Earth
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>>102068813
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>>102068688
No one knows where to start, and there are virtually no stresses on them currently. They don't even have to fear death.
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>>102068800
>Murder best friend's mother
>Cripple brother
>Crush Ritz's dream and erase her best friend

It's Gundam WIng all over again, I see no reason to support the protag.
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>>102067821
Latest?
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>>102068800
Fuck off, Marche.
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>>102068827
No one said anything about whether log horizon's world is real or not.
Log horizon's world may not be less real than earth. It may be another real world somewhere in some other dimension, if you disregard all the mmo technological mechanics mixed in with a medieval era. >Or why one should go back to Earth

The point is that in the end it is still not your world, adventurers are fundamentally a foreign entity. you're an alien in the new world. Krusty misses his cat, I'm sure there are single mothers other there who play the game, get ported in and are dying to find out where the fuck is their babies, that's due for feeding. Or players who are caring for their elderly parents etc.

Just because you don't want to go back to earth cause you can walk again doesn't mean everyone share's the same sentiments.
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>>102068557
>with a near 100% literacy rate.
>with a near 100%
>A NEAR
>NEAR
Have you met many illiterate people in MMOs who couldn't fucking read or write at all?
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>>102068688
In order to find something you at least need a hint about where to start looking. There weren't any such convenient clues just lying around. Its not the standard plot of "you got trapped in a VR simulation", they were literally sitting in front of their computers and suddenly BAM they're in magical fantasy adventure land with a game-mechanic overlay.
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There are people working on getting back, just not on Shiroe's side
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>>102068790
Are you kidding, have you taken any anthropology classes at all?

Altruism is humanity's most desired survival trait being assholes gets you sidelined in the race for survival pretty quickly. Humans are more social than predatory. Its genetically coded in humans to desire altruism.
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>>102066374
Cmon. You KNOW there is some dude with capped money running around. there's one on every server.
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I just don't understand why any adventurer would ever take any shit from and Lander

Like, Shiro gets that messenger from the Landers and he should have just massacred them
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>>102069245
They're japs. Even if they're gods, they're still social pussies.
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>>102069098
You'd be surprised at how mind bogglingly stupid some people can get.
em
>Dont aggro this mob since we have to pull them without it aggroing us times in a row.
>All you have to do is sit there.
>Proceeds to aggro everything in sight and goes LOL when we go wtf.
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>>102069102
that's illogical, think about all the inventions, did people just sit on their asses waiting for the hint to start looking? No, people want out looking for the hint, that will lead them to the next hint, and the next and the next. It's called discovery.

All that has happened is the adventurers doing their adventuring stuff waiting for things to get dropped on their laps. It was the thing with Re-gun, some dude just appears and drops hints in your hands.

So now the adventurers have their hint, and what have they done with it? Nothing. No one decided to form a task force and ask re-gun if they can go through his library looking for more information. No one went and thought, hey this re-gun dude was an pretty important NPC when it was still a game, maybe there are other sages or fluff characters that are still around where can can send groups out to look for and learn more.

Nope, unlimited jew gold is more important cause shiroe wants to play land baron simulator whatevertheyearisinloghorizonland
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>>102069289
Can't play it right =/= Can't read
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A crafted weapon, by which I mean like if a craftsman got a stick and sharpened it to make a spear, how much damage does it do HP wise?

Would a gun be effective or ineffective in log horizon?
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>>102069156
Not really. for some strange reason we manage to be both.
We're social to our own tribe clique but predatory/aggressive as shit to any other tribes like say the landers. The social part even comes into play there because our social aspect means we're organized as shit at our violence.
That's actually the main advantage we had vs neanderthals
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>>102069333

Some parents let their 6-12 year olds play MMORPGs. I'm not saying thats right, but I don't expect them to be completely literate in the native tongue.
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>>102069376
That's due mostly to self-perservation kicking in.
If mankind lived without any scarcity, no lack of food or shelter, we wouldn't need to start killing anything that possibly might take our stuff.
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>>102069299
You seems to messed up the chronology of the story. What are you talking about?
The burger jew incident was long before they were called to kingdom of whatever. Then Regun happened, but then only a few days later, gobs and shags happened. They don't have time for researching shit.
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>>102069333
Even with the LOL we weren't sure he could read what we were typing. he was THAT STUPID. In the end he was functionally illiterate.
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>>102069455
I'm talking about the books
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>>102069376
except we didn't kill the neanderthals they were integrated into the human family. So no you are wrong there.
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>>102069484
That's just standard rape and pillaging of booty anon.
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>>102068688
>nobody is looking for a way BACK to the real world?
There are groups dedicated for this
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>>102069511
which is an acceptable social more at that time.
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Are there OCRed novels in Japanese? Haven't found them on baka-tsuki, there are only scans on nyaa.
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>>102069540
in the background yeah okay then, keep staying there.
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>>102069376
That's because that other tribe might come over here and kill you so they can steal all your food and land.

When you're immortal and living in a world where food and living space scarcity are non-issues, that instinct is pointless and will eventually disappear.
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>>102069629

Unless you can be killed. Remember that there are always more lowbies than there are casuals at the top, and there are always more casuals than there are veterans and elites.
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>>102069613
Not exactly the main focus of the story? Plant Hwyaden is a mega size guild dedicated for finding ways to return back, Shiroe got Roderick Firm and Oceanic Systems researching a bunch of things, a number of people he have running around researching stuff. And killing gobs is more fun
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>>102069629
What is greed? Have you ever wanted to have more of something just because you can?

What is power? Have you ever played that god game or cheated in some game and just became immortal and just went around and decided to be cruel to some npc on a whim just because you can? And kind just cause you can too? It's the knowing that you can control someone's fate, decide if they live or die that makes people go mad with power.

Fuck why do kids take magnifying glasses and burn ant colonies?
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>>102069715
yeah killing gobs is more fun I'm sure cause you don't have to do it in a wheelchair anymore.
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>>102069629
A scientist in the 60's replicated a perfect utopia with mice. it quickly lead to overpopulation, riots, cannibalism , random acts of violence in general and all sorts of bad vibes.
Post scarcity is not automatically a good thing.
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>>102069744
except you're not the only immortal. You're probably not even the strongest.

If there is a psychopath who finds it fun to kill figurative "ants", there's a white knight several levels above the douchebag more than happy to put him in his place.
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>>102069796

YEAH WELL MICE DONT WORK TO BUY IPHONES
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>>102069796
I want to be one of the beautiful ones in log horizon.
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>>102069796
The flaw with that experiment was trapping the rats in the colony without escape.

It created an artificial competition for mates and leadership since all the rats are stuck together.
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>>102069744
our mammalian and hominid evolution has crafted a species—us—with remarkable tendencies toward kindness, play, generosity, reverence and self-sacrifice, which are vital to the classic tasks of evolution—survival, gene replication and smoothly functioning groups. These tendencies are felt in the wonderful realm of emotion—feelings such as compassion, gratitude, awe, embarrassment and mirth. Recent studies have revealed that our capacity for caring, play, reverence and modesty is built into our brains, bodies, genes and social practices.

Those who stray falls within abnormal psychology and are outlier cases. Sociopaths and psychopaths do exists but they are in the tiny minority.
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>>102069773
It is. And the part that NOBODY isn't doing anything to go back to their original world isn't true either
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>>102069854
I'm personally going with nature over nurture here. sure we aren't automatically as violent as our other related species can get but we can just as easily become "evil" as we can become "good." We're scarily fluid in that way.
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>>102069854
show me those studies anon, cause looking at the real world right now I don't quite believe you. And here, you all thinking about mindless serial murdering sociopaths and psychopaths.

When I'm thinking about that oppressive government/ corporation violates human rights that we see so often in our everyday lives but we just don't care cause, not in my backyard.
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>>102069954
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/forget-survival-of-the-fittest/
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Feels pretty /int/ in here
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>>102069911
You can't blame me, when the author just thinks that a few lines about oh hey and yeah these guys are looking for a way back so...yeah don't worry about it, is enough to put the largest and most pertinent question in the entire story, "what the hell happened to earth" to rest.
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>>102070048
Have you read the novels yet? Everything have been for the purpose of getting back, but before that you need organization and manpower and shit for it hence the formation of the Round Table. Shiroe admitted that he could have gone the way Plant Hwayden did as its the fastest and most efficient way but didn't because he's a goddamn moralfag going "muh scubs" and "npcs have feelings too" and went the long fucking honest to jap straight laced way
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>>102070047
I notice Log Horizon threads are ripe for various discussions.

economics, diplomacy, MMOs, waifus, and just a week ago, historical war re-enactment (Like another Horizon show with its own crazy world-building)
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>>102070047
I haven't seen a discussion about Argentinians being white.
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>>102070048
And you think sitting on their asses is going to do anything when they have no ldeas? Adventuring actually brings up nice chunks of random information that might be useful. it's the best intelligence gathering method right now. It led to Reagan. Now they have to learn even more about Elder tales because what's to stop the Landers from resummoning them if they got back?
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>>102070197
>(Like another Horizon show with its own crazy world-building)

The way the Log Horizon novels are being consumed by the anime, we'd be able to get an s2, but not an s3.

And then we'll be screaming Just Believe at the top of our lungs every time someone mentions "Horizon s3 when?"
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>>102070366
I think we had one a few weeks back. something about the agentinian lander king being black?
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>>102070422
>And then we'll be screaming 'In the Database' at the top of our lungs every time someone mentions "Horizon s3 when?"

fix'd
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>>102070422

They can make filler seasons if the NHK wants it. I don't see how the NHK would want it, unless its popularity experiences exponential growth.
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>>102070422
>Tread softly because you tread on my dreams.
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>>102070504
Did NHK ever make filler seasons before? Somehow I doubt it.
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>>102070551
Just Believe, anon. It will come
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>>102068929
I have volume 7 and it is not in it.
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>>102040495
Bottom left is swagtastic. Would guild up with.
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>>102070582
I want to so badly.
>I say this as the Spice & Wolf theme is currently playing.
Repeat the lie long enough and it will become the truth.
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>>102070671
Top right screams
>we fail at clearing starter zone spawns
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>>102040495
>you will never live in the database with your blonde elf waifu
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>>102048470
Yes. She's great and a very believable character.
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>>102070893
>You will never live in the database being exclusively focused by 100s of healers making you nigh invincible as you swim through the Olympic swimming pool of goblin blood you have just created.

>Your axe will never create beautiful artwork as peons follow you around with blank canvas panels to catch the castoff goblin blood as you carve into the horde.
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>>102070893
>she's a fat neet with a magnificient neckbeard in real life.
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>>102048470
>Implying I wouldn't volunteer before she even gave her speech to be neck deep in slaughter with Krusty.
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>>102071033
>wanting to be scrubsty
>not wanting to be rundelhouse and make the ultimate sacrifice, until shiroe comes and make a mockery of your sacrifice by making you a zombie with reality warping powers.
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>>102069339
It's a lot harder to make a gun from scratch than you'd think. I'd imagine they'd be a kind of better crossbow if you invented them, but why would you bother?
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>>102070727
Those guys look like mismatched jobbers who haven't specced correctly and none of them have a clear purpose.
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>>102071033
To be honest
>you will never live in the database
was enough to make me feel pretty bad. I would legitimately give up my family and friends to live in the database. Though I wouldn't want to be in the server of my current country (UK)
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>>102071151
>It's a lot harder to make a gun from scratch than you'd think
No, it really isn't.
make a GOOD gun? yes, that's difficult, but A gun? anyone can make a gun with a bullet a nail and a pipe

or really the best option in their case because of lack of bullets, blackpowder weapons which are fairly simple to make

a blunderbuss would be your best bet for simplicity sake
non-smokeless blackpowder is a joke to make, throw in some random bits of metal as shot into a tube

bam, you got yourself a blunderbuss
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>>102071256
I would also give everything up in a heart beat
> Though I wouldn't want to be in the server of my current country (UK)
I would love to be in my current server (Texas)
>battle of the Alamo event please god yes
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>>102071105
>Not wanting to create artwork.
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>>102071259
Dude, do you know how to make gunpowder from scratch? Remember that they have to make everything that doesn't exist in the databse with their own hands and ingenuity - magic would definitely help but you still have to work out gunpowder or like you say, black powder.

I'm not saying it's impossible. Just that it's impractical - and most people wouldn't be able to do it.
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>>102037492
That isnt going to happen at all though. Mamare has set out his OTPs pretty fucking plainly.
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>>102071259
Sorry can't have that, cause not enough levels, and no fun allowed.
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>>102071259
>Let's pirate in the database
>Let's SKYpirates in the database
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>>102071323
He make a magnificent piece of direwolf blood and brains mixed with his insides using the entire city as his canvas.
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>>102071299
I'd imagine that America + Canada would be one server. It would be a god-tier server to be in.
>Massive
>mostly empty
>scary wilderness
>all types of weather and scenery
>awesome terrain for exploring
>long-distance travel

The only problem would be ameritards, but you could ignore them or wipe their memories pretty quickly.
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>>102071259
Look they nips, not rednecks. Maybe the American server.
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>>102071355
>Sky pirates
You just reminded me of those books about people who live on the edge of a huge cliff. I don't remember them very well but they were the shit, the flying ships and stuff were amazing.
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>>102041196
>dat Isami

Oh lord my dick. She was already my favourite out of Souji's harem and this cements it.
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>>102071256
>>102068757
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>A girl among girls. Petite and cute. Cuddly like a ball. Outgoing, wasn't shy and had proper manners... but that wasn't much. Akatsuki thought this kind of cuteness would just get her a bit of popularity in school, and she could be too direct sometimes.

>She didn't know how to cook or where to buy nice clothes since she was a middle schooler. Her taste in bags was childish. She got so excited when talking to Shiroe, her high pitch voice definitely irritated Shiroe.

Akatsuki, pls
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>>102071493
stop being jealous of the best girl minorin, you're illegal.
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>>102071493
>>102071531
Now now, they're both adorable and badass. Let's not argue. And Akatsuki is the more powerful player so I'd guild with her first for a better chance at survival.
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>>102071531
As if you wouldn't tap dat.
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>>102071331
>Dude, do you know how to make gunpowder from scratch?
Yes? do you?

All it is is potassium nitrate, sulfur, and carbon

easy ways to get each:
potassium nitrate you can get from bat shit on cave walls
carbon from burning wood
and sulfur you just go mine
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>>102071604
Jesus Christ.
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>>102071604
>c86
>fatalpulse
>minorin
>akatsuki
>serara
>throw neet princess in for good measure
My dick is so hard and dense it's about to make a black hole.
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>>102070590

Volume 8 previews.
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>>102071641
I personally don't know shit. But my point is it's time consuming, difficult and ultimately might not even produce good results because it's a game, not real life.
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>>102071686
stop right there, can you fuckers decide if it's a game world or a real world or not, instead of jumping between the two to justify your own bullshit.
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>>102071604
>those hips
>that body
God fucking damn
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>>102071757
I personally think it is an alternate reality that is based on the game, just as i think that there is an alternate reality where our reality is a game like the sims.
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>>102071256
>Though I wouldn't want to be in the server of my current country (UK)

The fuck is wrong with you?

Asside from Japan, from what we have heard from mamere's notes the UK and Northern Europe sound like the funnest places to be. Awesome medieval politics with influential and powerful guilds being the foundations of the sucessful, rival cities and states.
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>>102071604
B-but I don't want to go to jail, whereas akatsuki is safe and gives me the same loli experience.
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>Rieze also frequented Raynesia's tea party, an intelligent maiden. Her actions were closest to the nobles among the participants. But compared to the inflexible socialites of Eastal aristocrats, she was much more enlightened.

>She had learned the word enlightened from Rieze.

>It meant 'wearing clothes that wouldn't constrict your stomach and enjoying Custard Dorayaki.'

>What a great word.

Can people please stop teaching NPCs weird things?
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>>102071664
Please no.
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>>102071604
yes Yes YES
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>>102071803
>same experience
>no hoo thorn bind hostage on your eyes
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>>102071443

Out of Souji's harem, Isami, Kawara and Kyouko are my favourties.

I would party up with those three every day of the week.
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>>102071866
stop denying yourself the pleasures of the world anon.
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>>102071795
I haven't read the notes about other countries' servers but I know the landscape of the UK inside and out and it has awful weather. Even a fantasy version of it I'm pretty sure I would get bored as fuck of.

Not to mention we have a pretty awful online gaming community. There's a few great guys if you play MMOs but the majority are either silent bad players or you get 'Oi m8 drop me some equipment? Sware down me mam needs to pay for me subscription cos I did the washing up"
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>But my point is it's time consuming
No less time consuming than spending weeks trapping boars and shit to make fucking burgers.

It's called invention and entrepreneurial spirit.

In a world dominated by swords and bows, wouldn't you want to be the shopkeeper peddling fucking shotguns and rifles?
>Nips not into firearms, don't know respire for gunpowder off the top of their head
>they cant google it
>repeat customers all day
>get molested by your massive piles of money

Or just sell your knowledge to a massive crafting guild for instant piles of money with zero work.
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>>102071604

Minori is too needy and clingy for my tastes.

I'd more than happily have Raynessia, Akatsuki or Isuzu though.
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>>102071803
Tell that to the police.
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>>102071952
>awful weather

Hardly, its a mixed bag. Its complete shit right now but last summer was fucking awesome.

And if you think that:
1)Chavs still exist
2)If they did that they would play MMOs

You are hilariously mistaken.
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>>102071604
>>102071975
A-are there more of these...?
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>>102071975
I'm sure they'll believe me when I show them her i.d.

She has her i.d. r-right?
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>>102071967
>says Minori was too needy and clingy
>likes Raynessia
Why don't you like mini-Shiroe, anon-kun?
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>>102071975
>dem stars

Best girl

Patiently waiting for an Isuzu version.
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>>102072040
>mini shiroe
>poor imitation = the real deal

Fuck off, Mongrel.

That and I find her no where near as endearing or likable as Shiroe. Its like you saying "surely you like Nureha just because she is also an enchanter, like Shiroe is"
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Can we come to the conclusions that the aussie server is the best server?
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>>102071955
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>>102072015
Only these three. Here's hoping the artist would make more.
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>>102072113
>>102071975
>dat cameltoe
>>102071604
>dat subtle bulge of the vulva peeking out as she assumes the position
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>>102069853
Isn't that exactly what happens in Log Horizon? Tens of thousands trapped in a world they can't escape from?
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>>102072108
But you can't google shit in the database database.

I agree with you really that it would be much more realistic for people to be inventing shit all the time, but remember we're talking about either hopeless NEETS with no passion or college students who care more about their stats than creativity. And kids. Loads of kids for some reason.
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>>102069853
how do you plan on escaping from here anon?
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>>102072245
Hey, I'm a hopeless NEET and if I got sent to the database database wow-wow, I would definitely get off my lazy ass and do shit with the godlike powers I just acquired.
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>>102068688
>Why is it that absolutely nobody is looking for a way BACK to the real world?
People are, but where would you even start?
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>>102068757
>Just give it up and enjoy the thing for what it is, neets and cripples more content to be stuck as super heroes in their new world than to go back and face reality irl.
It's a new world to explore. Anyone that calls themselves a human being would be content to explore and go on adventure there. It's how humanity ended up traveling to every corner of the globe.
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>>102072316
stop this where would you even start thing, it's not logical.

>don't know something
>don't know where to start looking
>fuck it don't even bother looking

It's called discovery for a reason.
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>>102072245
These are Japanese NEETs. They're a pretty creative, productive bunch when it comes to things they're passionate about.

It's moot anyway - guns wouldn't nearly be as effective as they are in the old world. Adventurers are already supermen with incredible strength and speed and endurance. A mid level monk can probably punch with more force than a handgun.
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>>102072373
I wish people would just fuck off with this. Every single other "caught in a game" (Even though that doesn't really apply to LH) has been about escaping. We finally get one that is actually about exploring a new world and adapting to it and everyone wants to force stereotypical shit on it.
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>>102072370
yeah sure no one cares about their families and friends back at home.
>I have no friends
>transported to a world with superhuman powers
>I can live out my super hero fantasies, fuck the real world.

Have you ever thought about those people who have vulnerable family members who need special care? I'm sure they're extremely happy to be off adventuring and killing gobbos along with samurai cripples here cause adventuring!
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Adventurer technology will reach the point of modern day electronics. They will create an MMO about the real world to quench their nostalgia. After 20 years a second Apocalypse happens and a bunch of nerds try to get back to Elder Tale.
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>>102072482
But I can punch you while running away.
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>>102072373
Why the FUCK would you ever want to go back to the real world?

In the real world, you either go full NEET and have a shitty life, or you get a shitty job and have a shitty life, or you're in the lucky 5% of the human race that really has a good life, either through inheriting, being lucky, or working your ass off to the point where you can't fucking sleep for worry and you have to take prescription pills just to get up.

In the Database, you can do anything. You have an entire world to explore full of danger and excitement and magic and countless opportunities, and most importantly, the chance to make something of yourself. You can be the best at whatever it is your class does, you could invent something useful, you could start a guild, et cetera. I wouldn't even try to get back to the real world. In fact, I'd probably actively try and stop people finding a way back. I'd be a villain most likely for that reason.
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>>102071795
Know what would be funny? if once the memory loss thing was figured out the Adventurers would battle via basketball or something silly in leiu of real fighting.
I will yield but only if you defeat me in a Space Jam!

Any Landers that complain get to discover adventurers still know how to fight.
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>>102072373
It is a logical question. "The way back" isn't a magical location you can just walk to with enough guts and determination. It's obvious whatever magic brought them to that world is magic based on a world system that's completely unlike reality.

Thus all the time spent living in the new world is also time spent learning more and more about the world which may eventually lead to an answer. Shiroe is already thinking about this using what he's learned so far.

Again, where would you even start.
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>>102072245
>But you can't google shit in the database database.
Yes...hense me saying you can't

That's WHY it would be a good thing to do, I'm willing to bet all of 0-4 people tops in LH know what gunpowder is composed of, little alone close to the exact recipe

Also the bit about the player base isn't true, what about all of the crafting guilds? what about the fact that they ARE inventing things?

there's at least a few people playing that know their shit, at they (probably already are) will be either filthy rich
by selling their knowledge, or powerful as hell by hording it.
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>>102072577
So can a sorcerer. And he'd do it while developing more explosive power than any small arms that exists today.
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>>102072482
you're not accounting for the fact that the crafted gun would more than likely have actual damage numbers
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>>102072664
What if I want to be a gun wield sorcerer for more dakka.
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>>102072482
What about archers, would they be able to use their skills with rifles? Maybe automatic rifles? Whats stopping them from creating bazookas. I want a bazooka.
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>>102072531
>yeah sure no one cares about their families and friends back at home.
I'm sure if they missed them harder they'd magically teleport back home like Dorothy with red slippers.
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>>102072666
I'm imagining players having guns made of rare materials, then bringing them to an enchanter in an effort to increase their power.
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>>102072743
no fun allowed
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>>102072666
And there's no reason to think crafted guns would be more powerful than magic. It's not like food in ET is tastier than real world food, or the prototype steam engine is far more powerful than any normal world steam engine could ever be.
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>>102072842
Spells have cooldowns. Guns don't.
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>>102072880
>Guns don't
Yes they do. We call it reloading.
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>>102072905
You dont have to reload until you empty a clip, and it takes hardly any time compared to spells.
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>>102072929
>clip
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>>102072880
Might as well stick with bow and crossbow then where the ammo can be found from Lander shops and drops, as opposed where you to need make gun bullets yourself.
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>>102072975
im not from /k/

>>102072984
but guns are so useful, people can dodge arrows and see them coming, but can you see a bullet coming or dodge it? doubtful.
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we /k/ now
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>>102072984
This. You'd spend an inordinate amount of time hand loading.

Besides, like 95% of people wouldn't know how to make mechanisms that could support multiple rounds in a weapon. It's more difficult than it seems to make anything that's beyond a blunderbuss, flintlock or similar.

inb4 hurr semiautos so simple just cram a spring in there
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>>102072594
>have an entire world to explore full of danger and excitement and magic and countless opportunities, and most importantly, the chance to make something of yourself. You can be the best at whatever it is your class does, you could invent something useful, you could start a guild, et cetera
But everyone is trying for those opportunities, everyone wants to be the best in the class, everyone wants to lead a mighty guild. Our real world is pretty full of wonder as well, the database isnt so different
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>>102073019
I'm a neet in the body with super human abilities, I can dodge bullets, leap tall buildings and cut through ten inch steel like butter with my folded a thousand times katana enchanted by magic.
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>>102073019
>people can dodge arrows and see them coming
Arrows shot from 60-140lb bows held by the equivalent of level 5-15 adventurers, sure.

I have a feeling an arrow shot from a high class bow by a level 90 adventurer would have the kinetic force of a rail gun.
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>>102073103
Lets make railguns then. Simple small mechanisms that a low level wizard can channel electricity into in order to blow something away.

Fun.
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>>102073103
>I have a feeling an arrow shot from a high class bow by a level 90 adventurer would have the kinetic force of a rail gun.
This is what actually happened with William.
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>>102073145
>fun
sorry mate can't let you have that.
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>>102073068
True enough, but Database world is based on video game logic, which is a lot less filled with bullshit than the real world.

And yes, everyone's trying to be the very best, but that makes it a very merit-based society where people actually do shit. And this world may be pretty wondrous at times but it's also full of shit and 90% of our lives are taken away by doing bullshit jobs for shit money. In Database, you could earn money more or less based on how much effort you put in, which is certainly not reflected in the real world.

And in Database, if you have a problem with the way things are run, or with a faction or a guild or whatever, there's actually shit you could do about it, unlike the real world where I may not like african warlords but there isn't shit I can do about it without losing my life.

It boils down to: I hate life, I would prefer permanent escapism. So would quite a few people I imagine.
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>>102073145
Why stop there? Fuck it, lets make some fission bombs.
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>>102073237
Should be easy enough with magic.

This is why the human race can't have nice things.
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>>102071955
>In a world dominated by swords and bows, wouldn't you want to be the shopkeeper peddling fucking shotguns and rifles?
Not when said swords and bows are several times more powerful than shotguns and rifles thanks to superpowers and magic.

The point of a gun is that it delivers a whole lot of stored kinetic force with very little work done by the shooter. It's useful because no amount of work by an average human being can match.

Guns lose their meaning except as novelty toys. They'd be useful to make Landers more powerful though.
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>>102073268
>be mage
>literally nuke bomb rival town killing yourself in the process
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>>102073268
That's what I was thinking, shouldn't be TOO hard to do if you sacrifice a wizard or a dozen every time.
>They re-spawn tho so no big deal.


>Next book, crafting guild arms race.
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>>102071851
How about teaching them lewd things.
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>>102073307
>Not when said swords and bows are several times more powerful than shotguns and rifles thanks to superpowers and magic.
And who's to say that wouldn't also apply to the guns?
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>>102073322
>>102073320
And all the cost was a bit of memory.
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>>102073375
Because guns work around the benefit of the user's physical strength, and magic has no need of a missile throwing engine when it can travel just fine out of hands and staves.
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>>102073400
Pay them enough for the task and they won't care
I'm sure their are plenty of people to whom the "real world" memories mean next to nothing.
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>>102073195
That's where you're wrong anon. This world is shit cause of us humans. You're in the database, and who are you surrounded by? Fellow humans.

See this is where your fantasies start to come into play, you think you're going to be like ash and be the very best, like no one ever was. But so are your fellow adventurers, there will always be someone who is more knowledgeable, more charismatic, more wealthy, more powerful than you. You would like to think that you're the hot shit for clearing some super hard zone or getting some rare loot, when infact someone else is already solo clearing that zone in his sleep and is controlling the market for that rare loot. You think you're going to pull off some super meta heist in some MMO like EVE, but you'll just end up being a cog of some small gear that's grinding away, while other players who know more and are in control pull the strings in the background and determine in which direction the gears grind.

You're in the database, you don't like the way shit is run, you bring it up to the round table, they veto you. What are you going to do about it? You're lucky dictator shiroe didn't ban your ass from the guild hall, and if he did, your ass is on the kill list for his five secret police running around the city.

It's just going to be like the real world, cause humans are scum. There is no escape.
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>>102073442
>inscribe magic on the bullets
>extremely fast flying touch range spells

I can see how this would be incredibly useful
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>>102073322
>>102073320
>>102073237
God damn't humanity, this is why we can't have nice things.
>O look, a fresh new world, we can all start over.
>Let's cast it into hellfire for shit n giggles.
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>>102073489
If inscribing magic spells that activate on penetration (and not when the gunpowder explodes setting off a fireball in your face) actually worked, then yes, you'd have a neat toy for melee types to use as a backup weapon not unlike a rogue with a wand in D&D.
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>>102073489
gun mage class when
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>>102072373
What the fuck are you even on. One of the primary goals of Shiroe was to discover what happened to them. You know that info gathering thing he talks about.

There are two ways you can go about this;

Chaos and Anarchy (default option)

Systematic and Organized (Shiroe Option)

The round table collects taxes to fund R&D i.e, a fucking way home.
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>>102073473
Interesting breakdown. It is certainly true that MMOs are kind of like that in that someone will usually be able to one-up you. But I wouldn't mind being part of the winning team anyway, if you can't beat them, join them. And Shiroe and his bunch are legitimately good people, I wouldn't mind them ruling over my slice of database. Not everyone is a shit, just most people. I would still argue that a world where I'm a badass assassin who slays mythical creatures and doesn't afraid of anything is better than the one in which I'm a NEET late teenager with no prospects who's emotionally dead inside /blogshit.

Like I said, I personally envision a world of permanent escapism as better than my current one.
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>>102073473
>Once upon a time I was in EvE
>I was one of the ones pulling the strings
>felt great

but really tho, this guy is spot on, 99% of people in MMOs (EvE especially) become little more than cubicle workers
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>>102073473
>You're in the database, you don't like the way shit is run, you bring it up to the round table, they veto you. What are you going to do about it?

Leave. Go on an adventure to pass the time. Not bother about being 'the very best like no one ever was' because I'm no longer 10, not bother with megalomania and delusions of grandeur when there's so much else to see and do in a new world, or just find a village out in the middle of no where and become king of my little hill anyway.
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>>102073611
no shiroe option is continue to be a moralfag and adventure and wait for random NPCs to give you info while /adjustglasses.
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>>102073759
Depends on the type of MMO, but yes, most players in EvE are slaves pretty much.

Something like Runescape is much more individually focused and while terrible, would probably be a preferable world to live in seeing as you can just do your own thing and become successful, rich, own a lot of property and excellent items, etc.
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>>102073803
>Go on an adventure to pass the time.
Adventuring wont have appeal forever, eventually everything, no matter how much fun it appears at first, becomes another type of work.

>when there's so much else to see and do in a new world
Im pretty sure you havent even gotten around to seeing 0.0001% of the stuff to see in this one
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Am I the only one that would go and make a small cabin in the woods, just outside a major city, and just do some logging and farming and sell produce to cityfolk?
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>>102073838
Honestly I never understood how people played EvE without being in SOME level of command.
I mean holy fuck some of those people were paid shit wage to do nothing but mine all day to feed the supers (yes I know most botted, but sadly not as many as you would think)
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>>102073808
>random NPCs
So you think there's a better way to solve a magical mystery than asking a native wizard with decades of magical research and a huge library?
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Oh, and another question, does food even go bad in ET? Like, if I made a burger and just left it sitting on my shelf or in my bag, would it go bad? Has this even been discussed?
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>>102073868
These aren't arguments for or against anything.
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>>102073958
>INB4 stockpiling cum
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>>102073808
Maybe you should pay more attention to what you're watching seems to me like you have comprehension problems.
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>>102073958
Everything has durability, so I suppose yes.
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>>102073868
>seeing 0.0001% of the stuff in this one

Yeah because we all totally have the money, time, and ability to get further than that, don't we? In Database you don't seem to age, and you could easily just venture out on your own provided you had good kit.
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>>102073906
>than asking a native wizard
if I remember correctly, it was re-gun who came and asked them first, all they did was just go there, party at some noble's hall enjoy afternoon teas and get lucky with the appearance of re-gun.
>decades of magical research and a huge library
I don't remember shiroe asking re-gun if he can get their people to look through his huge library and utilize it. I don't recall him starting search groups to go out and look for other sages and fluff characters.

So they know world fraction and the history of the world, after that it's back to more dungeon crawling and acquiring loot drops.

Thing is they've been pretty passive about this whole info gathering thing the whole time.
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>>102073899
Yeah. It's bizarre to me, but some people like that I guess. They do get to save quite effectively and it can pay off in the long term but the amount of literal wage slaves in EvE is crazy to me.

I suppose it doesn't help that to actually be in control of what's happening you kind of need to be an oldfag who got their shit sorted very quickly after release, or break in by doing something other top players don't, which is difficult.
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>>102074100
They didn't know about Re Gan until he introduces himself. Plus they spoke at length about something that helped explain a very relevant mechanic in the world.

There wouldn't have been any point in searching through a dozen tomes on the many ways to cast a level 20 fireball spell.
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>>102074002
>two years worth of cum in a bottle.
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>>102074100
you're wrong. In this world information is more valuable than gold, that's why large guilds have their own R&D and the round table has a large budget allocation for research and issues fact finding quests to adventurers, Shiroe is just more methodical about it. In fact information gathering is the endgame for most of the first five volumes.

Pay more attention.
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>>102074173
but fireballs are cool
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>>102074100
>all they did was just go there, party at some noble's hall enjoy afternoon teas and get lucky with the appearance of re-gun.
It was a big ball where the who's-who of the land were attending. It was the logical place to go to find someone who might have some answers that a human player doesn't already have.
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>>102074115
I was always pretty damn behind on SP really
I just got lucky and made some well off friend's very early, and they joined an alliance that got into a pretty damn good spot, and I just worked my way up the ladder via social initiative and being a pretty damn good EFTwarrior

at my peak I was 3-6(4 people shared 3rd) in charge of a 1500-2000 alliance. Not at the top of EvE or anything, but definitely not one of the grunts

I take it you played/play as well?
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>>102074100
>I don't remember shiroe asking re-gun if he can get their people to look through his huge library and utilize it.
Why? Re Gan and his master and the masters before them had already utilized it to come up with the theory they spent an episode/chapter talking about.
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>>102074173
>huge library
>different classes of magic
>revelation of world class tier of magic
>thinks library only contains tomes of how to cast level 20 fireballs

>>102074219
I never said anything that the information was worthless, I agree that the information is a huge breakthrough, but it just stops there. Back to adventuring, and finding unlimited jew gold, and what does he want to use the gold for? Buying every single building in Japan, instead of funding massive R&D expeditions to find rare characters to extract information.

>>102074330
You think a group of one man sages can effectively catalog that huge amount of data? Compared to a team of mages poring through the thing? Besides there's always that chance that someone else might figure out something that everyone overlooked.
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>>102074511
>Buying every single building in Japan, instead of funding massive R&D expeditions to find rare characters to extract information.
Its almost like he's taking the long view, not betting everything on finding an out with one giant push and instead focusing on introducing stability and getting a long term source of revenue to better facilitate future expeditions
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>>102074511
Re Gan paraphrased all the instances of world class magic for Shiroe. So yes, the library would have had nothing new being mostly tomes of ET history and high level magic (which Shiroe and others being level 90 learn automatically through game mechanics).
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>>102074317
I was. I never got anywhere near what you're talking about but the social part of it is so much more important than people think. There are guys who invested way more time than I did but spent exactly zero of it networking, which in my experience was worth a lot more than how many hours you'd been feeding or whatever shit it was you thought was a good idea.

I quit because it was starting to consume my life and I didn't have the money to waste time gaming. Shame, really, I did enjoy those days.
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>>102074511
What makes you think they stopped funding research they just shifted the story's focus to other aspects of life in the DB.

Later volumes actually revealed that Shiroes info gathering mechanism has vastly expanded in the background while the scrubs were leveling up.
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>>102074511
>You think a group of one man sages can effectively catalog that huge amount of data?
Over generations, yes. That's sort of the point of sages with apprentices and magical theories to pass down.

And very little of it would be of interest to Shiroe. His issue is the nature of adventurers and the magic that brought them into ET in the first place, subjects NPC mid level mages would hardly be experts in.
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>>102074799
>subjects NPC mid level mages would hardly be experts in
>proceeds to drop the biggest bomb about world fraction, memory loss and world history in his lap.

It's like all of a sudden you've found this deep web ftp with petabytes of porn, and you don't want to go look through it cause some old dude says these three titles are the best ones, don't bother with the rest.
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