So, watching the JoJo anime made me feel like reading the manga. I'm at Stardust Crusaders right now, right after Jotaro defeats that water dude with the dog's help.
And I have to say... with a few exceptions (like pic related), it's a really boring part. Ironically because there's way too many fights in it. There's not a moment to develop the plot, it's just "Hey, let's get Dio!" "Oh no, some dude showed up and he wants to kill us!" over and over again.
At least in Joseph's part, the fights actually felt like they had some meaning.
Am I alone in thinking like this? I really don't get why Jotaro is the most popular JoJo apparently.
Yeah, I'm reading it now too (I just finished the bastet chapter)
There's way too many stand users and they never stop coming. We barely even see the main antagonist
I agree, but fuck when dio shows up shit goes down and redeems this atleast somewhat, also parts 4 and 5 are the same.... you get used to the fun being how are they going to defeat the next opponent....
also in part 4 you dont even get dio at the end the main boss is just some random fucking shit who has no relevance to anything
No, you are not alone. There is always plenty of faggots out there, especially ones with stupid standards for stories.
Part 3 is shit and Japan's taste is bad for liking it the most.
Exactly what I think.
I get that Araki wanted to breathe new life into the series with the stands, but he took this shit way too seriously. The plot's suffering for it.
Dio's shown up in something like 2 scenes so far, and we don't know shit about him.
I hope you're right about Dio.
Some anon told me I'd like part 4 better though.
I don't really mind not having Dio at the end, so far Joseph's part was the best, and he's the top man on my list. And shit, there's no Dio, but I liked Kars, and he actually had some relevance to the plot, being the stone masks' backstory and shit.
Huh. Well, yeah, I always thought that Jump's readers were a bunch of faggots, but this just proved it.
However I thought people overseas liked it as well. Good to know I was wrong.
Now I'm really not looking forward to Part 3 anime...
Well, maybe to see Polnareff and Gramps Joseph's shenanigans.
the only thing important about part 4 is that they introduce how stand users are made
Well, yeah, I was starting to get weirded out by fucking dogs and orangutans having stands.
Is Josuke fun, at least? Or interesting?
Everyone is fun and interesting, especially the man antagonist
Jotaro's dumb one liners were kinda funny sometimes. But yeah, overall the Stands aren't as interesting as in the later parts, and that makes the endless fights sort of boring.
Ha, good to know.
Seems like the art style improves a bit from part 3 to part 4, huh?
I swear, if it weren't for Joseph and Polnareff, the whole part would be groan inducing.
It got to the point where I considered pausing for a bit and reading Steel Ball Run, but I know if I stop reading it right now, I'll never finish it.
While the Stands weren't as interesting, I enjoyed it as sort of a base for the whole Stand thing to jump off of.
Plus you gotta be able to enjoy the Saturday morning cartoony-ness of Part 3 to really like it.
That and Jotaro being a motha fucka.
one of the things that pisses me off the most about part 3 is that the jojo from part 2 lost his fucking attitude, he only did the
>your about to say this
>I WILL SAY THAT YOU JUST SAID
trick once, he also rarly relied heavily on tactics. I mean seriously in season two he did crazy tricks with ropes maneuvering around and planning ahead, shit was amazing
>Jotaro's dumb one liners were kinda funny sometimes
oh your gonna love part 4
THAT SERIOUSLY PISSED ME OFF
Also the fact that the Ripple is totally fucking useless now that Stands can only be hit by other stands.
So far the only part Joseph actually was Joseph was when he had that tumor stand growing on his arm and he drenched it in tar.
I hope they really overdo the one liners in the anime.
Part 3 is my second favorite part because it has my second favorite cast behind part 4, and it has some of the best fights in the series. Looking back, it does have its weak areas, but the latter half really makes part 3 for me.
>Iggy vs Petshop
>Both D'arby fights
I guess I might appreciate it more after I see the whole stand thing get more developed.
If there were "Jotaro's mind" moments like that throughout the whole part, I'd enjoy it a lot more.
Okuyasu wasn't even at the dice game, though. What's wrong with whoever made this picture?
Well, I only just started reading volume 21, so...
It was pretty boring so far though.
I don't think they were referencing the dice game, just putting them in a picture that makes sense with their reactions.
Daily reminder that hermit purple is the shittiest stand and only ripplebabies have it
>Skipping all the way to SBR
Don't you fucking dare
Rule 1 of JoJo is never skip parts.
I was hoping you'd play along somehow with my reference to Jojo catching Rohan's house on fire. Too bad, it's ruined now. Disappointed sage.
part 4 is filler so it's alright to skip it
If only Granddad Joseph actually behaved like Joseph, he'd make Hermit Purple rape everyone's shit.
I just can't believe the same motherfucker who sent Kars to outer space after stealing a Nazi plane and crashing into a volcano and not dying couldn't think of creative ways to use his stand.
IMO, it has its ups and downs. The beggining and Kakyoin's arc were really interesting, but then it becomes really boring.
But then The Sun Happens and everything is great. Too bad it's only 2 chapters-long. Death 13 was kinda interesting, though.
It gets really good when Oingo and Boingo appear. Have you read that part yet, OP? It's when I started to really like it.
I thought SBR was mostly unrelated, except for the names and shit.
>skipping the best part
Par 4 has the best stand and villain
But we're talking about part 4, not 6
SBR takes place due to what happens at the end of Part 6.
You don't want to skip parts
>couldn't think of creative ways to use his stand.
Empress fight. Lovers fight.
I'm actually reading Oingo and Boingo right now, that was pretty fun, I have to say.
If only the earlier parts were as fun.
Death 13 was interesting, yeah, and the Sun was a fun short one.
However, Justice was REALLY boring IMO.
In fact, the whole part where they start in India, then go to Pakistan, and then that island were a fucking pain.
>Not liking watching Polnareff eat shit
Still very underwhelming compared to his younger days.
Really didn't care much for it.
You have to realize Jotaro is the MC in this part.
They don't want Joseph to overshadow him.
there was so much shit in part 3
like baby polnareff flinging his own shit at alessi or kakyoin forcing the baby to eat his own shit
That and Joseph is just a goofy motherfucker that couldn't even keep up his ripple training
then part 3 jojo shouldnt have sucked then
Araki was a pioneer of comedy, to realize that poop jokes are the most genius thing ever
What does japan think of how /a/ calls their shit taste constantly and how we look down on 3?
shit gets good in part 3 when D'arby the gambler shows up
it gets even better when DIO shows up.
Odd numbered parts tend not to be as good. Except for 7.
1 was establishing the overarching story and 3 and 5 have some fun fights but besides that they aren't that interesting. They still tend to be pretty solid as a whole though, except for 5 towards the end.
I know, but this >>101997466
I'm still asking myself how the fuck did Joseph not realize that the baby food was actually shit.
I really don't get why Jotaro is the most popular JoJo apparently.
Jotaro was a giant heartthrob buffet of manliness for the era in which his part was drawn. As well, Kakyoin and him were incredibly popular fujoshi bait (ie. CLAMP).
It's in part 4 that the beefcake-iness dies and we start to get into sameface syndrome.
Part 3 was fresh and influential when it came out, but it hasn't held up very well.
I'd guess people still like it because it was so prominent it got a lot of attention and they developed stockholm syndrome.
can't valentine just bring in infinite clones and solve world hunger?
>there's way too many fights in it
That's exactly what I thought and actually many others. It's constant fights and the characters and story have no time to breath. Araki REALLY wanted to promote Stands.
Part 4 is the total opposite though. Part 7 is the best mixture.
Yeah, I wasn't too fond of part 3 either, except for the Jotaro vs Dio fight.
Part 4 is better though
Why do they have to ruin everything?
He's popular in Japan because he's a cool classic Delinquent.
The videogame explains Part 3's western popularity.
>making doujins ruins the originals for you
They're funny comedic doujins too.
People keep saying this and I dont understand. Is there something wrong with a battle of the week formula, does everything need to have a deep integrate plot? I'm not saying everything needs to be always chalk full of action but I can't see whats wrong with a few series or parts of a larger story doing this.
2 > 5 > 6 > 7 > 4 > 3 > 1
I don't quite know where to put 8 yet.
It's just that it's kind of a letdown, having read Parts 1 and 2 right before.
Personally, I enjoy "X of the week" series, like Detective Conan, Jigoku Shoujo and so, but Part 3 gets really boring during many of the fights. I think Oingo and Boingo is when it got interesting, because the skill to predict the future was way more fun than "lel I control people!", the D'arby fights were both clever and fun and DIO is just motherfucking DIO.
I just don't like the early enemies of Part 3.
It's too early to place 8 anywhere
Just wait 5 years
I know everyone and their mama loves 7 but I just dont like it.
>"this must be the strongest stand we have ever seen"
Still has one of my minor fights ever.
What actually is the strongest stand?
No time controlling bullshit.
I'm nonplussed by it myself. /a/ tells me that it's an awesome story of bro-ness, but honestly, I was just sort of thinking it was turning into Part 3 with the incessant fights. Just never really connected with Johnny or Gyro like other people did, I guess.
Stands were great though, and I find it a whole fucking ton more interesting than part 8 so far (god dammit, all this mystery and investigation is driving me nuts, and there's like two new mysteries added every chapter without resolving any others first).
Depends what you mean by strong.
Vanilla Ice shouldn't really lose a fight.
If you dont know Weather Reports ability the wrong fight is instant death, so on and so forth.
Araki said it's Star Platinum.
He probably said it because it's the most popular though
Araki said it was Star Platinum The World, didn't he?
If he said that after GER he's full of shit.
Coming straight from part 2, there was a lot more time for the characters to bond off-battle, and a good number of fights with a clear plot goal (defeat the 4/3 pillar men). it was well structured, and very very simple, nothing deep or intricate here.
In part 3 it's practically all fights over and over with no end in sight and it got a little much. Only with the final volumes with d'arby, vanilla Ice, and Dio did it feel like actual progress was being made for once. And some with more important guys like Hol Horse.
It's not that it's a bad formula, but JoJo got me used to an interesting plot mixed with interesting battles.
And then I start reading part 3 and it basically just threw all of that out of the window and became really formulaic, with only a few battles being actually interesting.
>He probably said it because it's the most popular though
Well, honestly, in hindsight, it's one of the easiest to abuse for most people.
It has no odd specific requirements to work (aside from limited range), makes sense in its abilities right off the bat, and has a ton of mundanely useful powers that can by synergized very well (especially the loltimestop) by someone that's clever.
And all Jojo characters are clever.
I suppose this is the place to ask. /a/, please. How did you all do this. I looked at 3 pages near the beginning and they were all like this. How could someone possibly get through 19 volumes of this? Tell me your secrets.
Mid-part 4 really did have the best art.
Late Battle Tendency seems to have the best balance between detail and clarity.
You DUWANG, you super retadr
You just have to experience the magic of Duwang.
Or just download the re-translated version
Why did SBR take seven years?
It wasn't THAT much longer. Did it just get released less?
SBR was monthly.
It switched from Weekly Shounen Jump to Ultra Jump, which is published monthly.
It was weekly for the first couple of volumes, then switched to a monthly format. Anyway, Jojolion looks like it'll be longer, timewise. I don't think we're getting another chapter for a while.
It went to a monthly release. This not only stretches out publication, it also caused Araki to change styles significantly, since he had more time to draw details and work on...whatever the hell SBR's new art style was.
Perhaps I'm too old and a child of 80's/90's, but anything past Part 4 in terms of style from him is sort of...plain to me.
Dio was in all of part 1 though. You learn all about him then.
>anything past part 4 art
Everyone looks like fucking Michelangelo statues. Especially in SBR.
Let DUWANG give you a feeling so complicated.
Or try The Invincible Trio scans since they're doing them over
But people got even more fabulous afterwards, and things started getting bizarre design-wise.
Just look at Giorno's hair. Look at it.
I got DUWANG because I thought this was a picture of outliers and that the general translation was just in the lower teirs of readability. Does it get better at any point.
I like the way you think.
Did anyone else just gave up and read Part 3 in Spanish? Bizarre Fansub had a pretty good quality version of it, and the translation wasn't horribly shit, like most Spanish translations.
>thought that was outliers
Those are lines that form humorous sentences, as opposed to lines that actually don't make any sense.
Though I'm unsure if even he felt his new hair got weird when he grew it onto his fucking forehead for his star.
Well, yeah, but he could've been developed more.
Maybe give some insight on what he was thinking during the arc.
Because other than that, Part 3 doesn't really have much of a plot. It's just "Hey, Stands exist now."
DUWANG is an amazing read. Not only because of how great the fuck ups are, but because it chronicles the efforts of a single Chinese student, his struggles with the English language, his love for fabulous men with punchghosts, and his dedication to get that tale out to us. I have no comment on the Part 5 guy.
Dio actually gets pretty much all his development in the parts after he's dead.
Its sort of weird.
Monthly release instead of weekly.
Part 1 was the best
OP, part 4 is a lot better. Josuke is probably the closest of the protagonists to Joseph personality-wise, and though it centers around a "stand-of-the-week" formula the plot focus and setting make it work much better than 3. It's very different, but it's also one of the best parts.
If you want something closer to part 2 though, read Steel Ball Run.
It actually doesn't. It's a separate continuity according to Araki and Jojolion. It originally wasn't even considered part 7 until about half way through. You can skip to it easily, though you'd miss a lot of references to the first 6 parts. I don't recommend it but it's not a big deal.
Oh yeah, the only characterization he has is that he's a dick for no reason.
Part 6 is the closest we get
>Monthy release = More years of publication
Doesn't this mean authors should look for monthly magazines instead of weekly ones?
Think about it; you don't even need to stretch your story to make it last for years and years, you have enough time to draw all the details and write all the important plot points beforehand and most importantly, they pay you for a longer time, because your serialization is longer.
What a waste.
Part 4 just sounds better and better now.
I thought SBR was a whole different beast from everything else though. Can't complain, anyhow, fucking loved part 2.
I'd say Jolyne is even closer to Joseph. Look at how she uses strings. It makes all those "Josuke hangs out with Jolyne" things seem plausible.
Gee, who woulda thought his son would be the closest personality wise to him.
The new translation of part 5 is making me rethink my whole opinion on it. It's crazy how much of a difference some wording makes.
I can't wait until it catches up to the point were Diavolo is introduced because he's already one of my favorite villains
It's kinda risky for up-and-coming authors though.
People lose interest quickly enough with weekly serializations, imagine monthly.
And I'm not even taking into account Jump's shitty readers. Faggots, all of them.
Part 5 guy, ugh.
But there hasn't been a new release in ages. I want to see if Giorno really is any good at all.
SBR is still pretty different, but the main two characters have a Joseph-Caesar dynamic going on and it has the same sense of adventure, at least in my opinion, Lot's of banter between the main characters and crazy shit that happens. Plus something similar to the ripple instead of just stands.
Yeah, I figured part 6 would give some insight, with Giorno being his son and shit.
They don't actually meet though, do they?
I assume Dio's long dead when part 6 happens.
but how is it that having a monthly release makes it take longer to finish? i mean weekly releases have chapters that are like 10 pages long, once a week, but monthly releases have chapters like 40 pages long, so shouldn't it be the same in terms of serialization?
Giorno is actually part 5.
Dio is only around in flashbacks
A weekly release is about 20 pages. A monthly release can be around 30 to 45.
>something similar to the ripple instead of just stands
You just made me feel like skipping everything to read SBR.
I'll stand strong and avoid doing that, however.
5 has Giorno, but you're right with part 6 being the one with the insight.
Part 6 is Jolyne, whom I know virtually nothing about.
Jolyne is Jotaro's daughter
She's amazing. One of my favorite JoJos.
I don't think he will be. But I'm in this shit for the long haul. I can wait a few centuries.
She's much better than her dad
The only thing I knew about her is that some anon told me her art style changes throughout the story, and by the end she's fucking jacked.
Haven't actually checked it out though.
She gets hotter as the story progresses
Hardly something to brag about.
AND THE CAT'S IN THE CRADLE AND THE SILVER SPOON
so what do you guys think will happen when jojo ends?
is it going to end unfinished with araki dead?
is araki going to prepare something special for the last part like a meeting or something like that?
will we get to know beforehand that such part is going to be the last one or it's we'll abruptly realize that it's over?
Part 6 is the most bizzare of all of the adventures
There are some monthly releases that are 20 pages or so long, too.
There's Henneko, Sekirei and Watamote, for example.
JoJo will live on forever as art.
Part anythingbut3 Jotaro is actually a pretty cool guy.
When he hunts that rat stand user with Josuke and they have that nephew/uncle bonding time was a fantastic chapter.
I don't really know if Jotaro being the most popular Jojo is the result of him being so iconic in part 3, or the fact that he acts as a mentor in part 4 and 6. Even though Joseph also appears in parts after 2, his character is ever devolving, in the end he's just a pathetic weak old man that cheated on his wife. The last appearance of Jotaro is wearing snakeskin pants and is busting the balls of the guy that wants to put the screws to his daughter.
Jotaro is at least consistent in his coolness.
>fought countless stands and a hundred year old vampire
>nearly killed by a rat
Him being protective of his daughter was great. Wish there was more of that Jotaro.
>Ruler over a bunch of Stand users
>Body of a super English gentleman
>100 year old Vampire
>Nearly killed by a guy who laid an egg
It was a really strong stand man.
which is your fav stand?
There's lots on pixiv.
Are those the official colors?
More official stuff then.
don´t think so, found it on pivix
Woah, new translation?
I had no idea about this, how far are they?
official tier list of villain designs
both kiras>buff valentine>part 3 dio>pucci before his hair became weird>kars>diavolo>part 1 dio
There are no official colors for JoJo.
>tfw part 3 Jotaro is hardly even a character
>tfw Jotaro is my favorite character in part 4
I don't know what happened, but you're absolutely right.
i like how jolyne starts being all girly and shit but as soon as shit gets serious she goes
>fuck this im getting ripped
Jolyne was one of my favorite Jojos.
Part 6 was overall pretty good though.
soooo, i might as well start jojolion right?
its probably going to take years for it to finish anyways, waiting for it to finish is just wasting time right?
you can read all 7 parts and all that's our of jojolion even before the next chapter is out.
I like that Araki at least tried to keep Dio's presence throughout 1-6, but it's kinda not done very well.
Obviously he's important to 1,3,5(kinda),6 and 2 is about the stone mask, but part 4 is basically "How did Dio amass an army of stand users? Find out in this side story!"
I wish he'd had played a bigger role for being the closest to a primary antagonist, especially since he didn't age and all. It ends up being more about the Joestars cleaning up the messes he left in his wake.
I love her too. Have been looking forward to this thing for years
To be fair, he scares the shit out of Dio when he runs ripple through Purple Hermit. If Dio couldn't stop time, Joseph could've killed him even in his 60s.
I fucking loved this part so much. I wanted so badly for Valentine to be telling the truth.
too much focus on faces
there was some weird anatomy all over the place until like part 6?
The ripple is totally fucking useless because it was made to fight fucking vampires. Why the fuck would they need anti vampire kungfu if they only saw like 3 vampires.
>late part 7/part 8
Why is his promise backed up by a a picture of a lock and shit? You know you can't trust this dude even with if he backs it up with locks.
He's gonna bring your dimension buddy to you in the night and turn you into cubes.
Sounds strange, but he will.
I thought he started talking to johnny with a bunch of clip art because he was talking to him like a child.
Are we doing this?
oh god dios picture made me laugh so hard i woke up my neighbors.
I only have the rotation one :c
What a shame.
Fucking lost it.
>Filename not Secret Joestar Technique
>not the new gif
I haven't got around to naming my images in my jojo folder yet.
That capsule they put Jotaro in is a reference to Baoh right?
OH GOD ALL OF THESE PICTURES ARE KILLING ME
Part 3 is a remake of Part 1.
Prove me wrong.
>There's DIO! We have to KILL HIM! But to reach him we have to defeat everyone he throws at us!
Just change ripples and vampires with stand users and make it like 3 times longer.
Well if you want to play that game
>A hero goes on a journey
>A stranger comes into town (The hero's journey from the other perspective)
Fiction's over, everybody go home
No, you see, I'm not overly generalizing it.
This is literally "Jojo needs to kill Dio and is chasing down his lair, defeating the hoards of henchmen Dio sends to stop him".
This is far more detailed than jsut saying "it's a heroe's journey". I'm also not saying it's a rip off or anything, just saying that it is as much a remake of Part 1 as Part 8 is a remake of Part 4.
If DIO knew how to attain heaven, why did he just stayed in Egypt instead of luring the Joestars to Florida and kill them there instead while attaining it?
the reasons why jojo wants to defeat dio are diferent
jojo's personal relation with dio is different
dio is a really important character that has a clear efect in the flow of the story in part 1 while in part 3 appears just at the end
actually jojo and dio fight 3 times in part 1 and in part 3 it's just the final scene
He wanted to make sure the Joestars weren't around to fuck everything up.
> It originally wasn't even considered part 7 until about half way through.
Really? As far as I remember, Araki directly calls it JoJo Part 7 in his note on the cover of SBR vol.1.
>tfw there was no forbidden love between Pucci and Dio
getting a feeling so complicated
>also in part 4 you dont even get dio at the end the main boss is just some random fucking shit who has no relevance to anything
Eat shit and die
While most of that part was really made up of fighting the Standuser of the day, I really enjoyed the journey and it showed, that Araki really has traveled alot himself.
Also Jotaro wasn't so bad in my book. He had a certain smugness people tend to overlook.
Are there any non shit scans of part 3?
I swear SnK only survive PURELY by its cancerous shippingfags
After a while, it starts to feel like a picnic.
Man, I really thought Koichi was supposed to be a girl during that second panel
Surely the shippers are just teenage girls. There can't actually be self respecting adult males that participate in such a thing. Even saying the word "shipper" makes me cringe, isn't there a more critical word we can use to describe it?
well it IS true SnK is a fujoshi bait manga now
but fujoshi are not limited to tweens, but more adults that do creepy giggles as they spend most of their money on promoting their ships?
You mean Guanglai Kangyi?
anyone got that video of the fat guy singin so no chi no sadame?
he had a great voice
What board was this anyway?
Maybe /vg/, been about 9 months and that seems consistent with the post counts
why did stroheim get removed from jojo guys?
its not even possible for him to die to the russian army, and his ancestry could of made great characters
>its not even possible for him to die to the russian army
it was the cold dude
high ranking officers get to stay warm, and hes a robot.
anyone got that video?
you know... THAT one?
anyone got that one MAD that gets real sad halfway through?
oh i didn't read this post before making mine
>tfw part 5 with proper translations never
theres a light novel where he dies fighting a russian stand user that he thinks is a vampire
>dio's son is more of a joestar than the serie's mascot (jotaro)
he could beat a stand user if he was close enough to think he was a vampire
>tfw you will never know which side of the net the tenis ball will fall on
>Implying he wasn't produced by Jonathans balls.
The fusion is a bit more through then just head on body but still, he has more Joestar than Brando in him.
That depends entirely on what the stand does.
Hell, even if it does something pretty weak there's that huge moment where he lands his sun-based attack and nothing happens, because the guy isn't a vampire where he could kill him.
>GioGio never actually met the Joestars
>Jotaro never didn't get to talk with his great granduncle who he is older than
What >>102006650 said. Could have been anything, like one of those sneaky asshole stands that isn't a punching ghost and just fucks you without plotarmor or a retarded user.
Do you or anybody know more about this? Like what that stand was?
but if he thought he was a vamp, that means he saw hin and the gun in his chest can kill anything short of kars
that's one of the things that bugged me about 5. Koichi gets sent out to be dicked with, helps in a fight and then the whole tissue sample thing seemed to get dropped. Fuck, they never even really went aware with him being Dio's son, you'd think one of the many fanatical henchmen would have sought him out and did something
But Kakyoin is the motherfucker of part 3.
Maybe he shot him and his stand protected him and that's why he thought it's a Vampire.
Lot's of shit can cause this, a stand that absorbs physical damage, deflects the bullets, lets them pass through, makes an illusion, changes trajectory or just makes him dodge.
Technically, part 2, 4 and 5 are filler, and 7 and 8 are standalone.
Also forgot to say, Stroheim wouldn't know, because he knows shit about stands, so everything unnatural is either hamon or vamp to him.
Part 3 is great because of Joesph's OH MY GODS
It was /vg/ I remember spending all my time there in preparation for All Star Battle.
Shit, I still can't decide if I should buy it now or wait until I'm more experienced in Japanese(with a chance of it being out of print by that time).
Have you read the whole thing or just that summary? How good is it?
I think I have a guess about his stand.
New trailer fucking when?
Also, Holy Diver is the only choice for ED.
watching the anime, episode 10, joseph's asshole must be huge in order to get that gun out of it.
Joseph's combat tactics is mostly based on asspulls. In a good way.
I was mad that he wasn't until he gained a stand.
He could still have worked as a girl though. Such a shame.
I still don't get what was the point of him being half Japanese and looking Japanese on the photograph at the beginning (I haven't finished part 5 but I doubt this gets resolved).
It's not like Araki didn't have entirely non-Japanese Jojos before.
> I really thought Koichi was supposed to be a girl
> He could still have worked as a girl though.
Are you reading Jojolion? We do get a girl Hirose there.
I'm >>102017516, so not yet.
Other guy her, I'm also only on part 5. How does girl Hirose look?
Anyone read the spin-off stories like Rohan at the Louvre, or the JoJo novels/audio CDs? How are they?
I read the Gucci one, it's a fun short story, nothing much. Rohan is a pretty funny character.
>Read it in English with an awful translation
>Read it in Italian and understand half of what's written
>Read it in Japanese at a snail's pace
Fucking part 5.
The Gucci ones aren't bad, but I rally liked the Thus Spoke Rohan Kishibe ones and Dead Man's Questions.
I had to laugh pretty hard. God damnit, America.
before getting tuned into Jojo, I was having a pretty bad opinion about anime and manga. Then I remembered copyright laws, age appropriate content tagging, and the 90s willingness to try crazy shit to get viewers pretty much gone that most everything mainstream on American shelves are garbage
About the JoJo novels, they are planning to dump the text for the two italian translated ones >>60249018
You probably wanted to crosslink to another board, mate.
Holy shit, and I thought part 3 was already crazy. Part 4 is getting better and better by the minute.
I still don't get that translation.
Shouldn't it be "Cats love Kira Yoshikage"? I thought it was a joke on how both Stray Cat and Killer Queen are cats.
That pretty much confirms Rohan as Araki's self insert, he even said he'd like to have Rohan's stand if he had to choose one.
and he still wonders why people keep associate Rohan with him
>claims jojo part 3 is boring
>goes into detail describing repetitive battleing events
>clearly describing Terrra Formers, not jojo
U trawl OP
He does? I always got the impression Rohan was some kind of caricature of himself, like he was taking a jab at himself or something
On one of the covers he mentions people are always cautious around him because they think he's like Rohan, while he claims he isn't.
Yeah, that he wants people to relax around him. Araki sounds pretty damn moe to be honest.
Who wouldn't be cautious around an immortal Ripple master?
>You have to realize Polnareff is the MC in this part.
I'm all caught up on JJL now. Can someone talk to me about theories? Why does the curse affect first born sons? Who's the Architect? Who's the other half? Why is Tsurugi such a creepy little fuck?
Maybe the Higashikata from Part 7 is the fusion of two people, since he have two navels, but that's all from me.
That's not a bad idea though, I never even thought about it
Any word on Shizuka's translation progress?
Complete stop, she's dying from a stand attack
I sent her an e-mail asking her for raws a few weeks ago, and received no reply.
So she either ignored me or isn't paying much attention.
>IS THAT HAIR
>OR PART OF HIS CAP
Every fucking time.
To be honest Stardust Crusaders is my second least favorite part next to part 5. With a few exceptions the fights and story progression aren't very in tune and kinda boring. That part 4 though <3
Kira is best villain.
I'm actually liking part 5 so far in spite of my initial disliking of it due to the art.
But I'm still mad that it's keeping me from reading part 6 and on with the language barrier.
i hate how everyone forgets how cool the anubis fight was, and all because it was placed badly
part 3 had really good fights it's just that they're sandwiched in between a lot of either just okay fights or forgettable ones with all of them sharing the same characteristic of being "we are here to stop you from reaching Dio". It lacks character to get you more invested and years of overexposure (see Capcom fighter) doesn't help either
the thing is that part 3's villains (other than dio, hol horse, boingo, etc...) are much less likeable than the other parts so as you read the parts after it, you start liking it less and less.
proper translations never ;_;
It lacks recurring characters. It's funny that you mentioned exactly the ones that appear more than once.
Wouldn't you have liked to see Mariah more than once? Don't you think the multiple fights with final bosses make Part 2 and 4 better?
joseph doujins soon
>Right towards the end of Part 4
>I've reached the last volume of the properly translated scans
>The last 3 volumes and whole conclusion to the part will be in DWANG
Its not bad, just finish it dude
Anyone got a favourite moment?
Why are newfriends so terribly afraid of DUWANG? You guys act like it's a holocaust of translations.
Speaking of funny, why did it almost become a shitty comedy in mid-part 3? Part 1 had great balance with humor, part 2 was more on-and-off with it, but four or five arcs in part 3 were solely for comedic purpose. Just getting into part 4, I hope Josuke's hair doesn't become even more overused than it is already.
This or when Jolyne sets herself on fire
It kinda is.
I am so glad someone translated it, but it sucks that it was well after I read duwang
Would have been pretty good if she hadn't been a non-character.
Still don't get why Araki thought that Purple Haze was that ridiculous, it's such a limited stand just like The Hand.
Fucking Weather Report was like at least 10x more ridiculous.
no stand fight
it's just a defenseless little boy, in the most vulnerable situation he could be in, locked in a room with a serial killer posing as his father. This shit is magic in it's mundanity
I have come up with theories of the people that actually recommend Duwang.
1. They have become desensitized with how awful it is.
2. They don't remember how awful it is.
3. They are justifying themselves reading everything originally in Duwang, to the point they actually believe it doesn't suck.
4. They are trolling.
Because nobody in their right mind should try to defend those scanlations.
Sure, they're funny sometimes, but you don't download troll subs from shows you like unless you've already watched them.
Sure, there wasn't a choice at the time, but there is now.
Not to mention that he very existence of the Duwang scans is what has stalled proper translations for so long.
Not to mention dat Kira ass
I just finished SBR.
Funny Valentine did nothing wrong.
Who did less wrong
Griffith or Valentine?
Didn't he try to rape Lucy?
Everyone on SBR wanted the corpse for selfish reasons.
>he can't handle the duwang
>you will never know how to yare yare anything
He was doing for his country.
Yeah but with HIM standing above the triumphant 'Murrica. Remainder that the America in SBR is actually named the United States of Valentine.
>Cause this is my United States of dojyaaa~~n
It was never implied Valentine would use it for evil. He just wanted power to be the greatest country on earth.
He was doing what he needed to do for his citizens.
Seeing him and a baby together reminded me of how he got his hairdo.
I expected timetravel shenanigans.
Instead we got a world reset parts later.
Pretty sure Araki had an idea of doing that with Killer Queen, but he trashed it I guess.
I wonder if he planned it to be time shenanigans and everytime he tried to pen a possible story to tie it back in, he just got sick of how hackney it came out just decided to play it straight as a bigger twist
What was the biggest bullshit thing to ever happen in JoJo? Doesn't have to be bad necessarily, but something that is incredibly nonsensical and wouldn't make any sense at all if it wasn't jojo.
I think it's when Jolyne made a Mobius Strip out of string to protect herself.
That made sense, zombie buccellati didnt.
oh but anon, the fate rock of fate said he was fated to die only in a fate way fate
Beating the perfect being basically out of complete luck and random hunch.
Then again, if that piece of shit had ever developed a stand... Oh fucking gawd would the entirety of all universes be fucked,
no girls with panties showing...everyone loses their shit "worst anime ever"
u wot m8
We'll send an arrow into space and by complete coincidence, it'll hit Cars.
Find out next time if he'll die or not
Benny just had too much shit to do for death
exactly, it was so bullshit that Araki had to add an extra chapter kind of explaining what the fuck was that and it was bullshit, even by JoJo's standards, it was just so tacked on and forced into the plot that I think it kind of ruined part 5 for me, I mean it was good but one of the worst JoJos for me.
No shut up, Araki clearly had it planned from the beginning. You just can't understand his genius.
But it wasn't in to space. He sent it at the exact precise angle the blind Pillarman did except to hit him earlier when he was on a chariot driven by vampire horses. It's completely fucking legit.
will 7 get an anime
There aresome excellet fights in pt 3 though
baby stand user
they outweighed the bad parts.
What if Kars gets hit by an asteroid made of the same metal as the arrow, gives him a stand and throws him back to earth? Final part will be Stands vs vampires
A vampire with a stand already lost, I don't see how that will-
I can't remember right now, but wasn't Bruno zombified because King Crimson's attack had the opposite effect Gold Experience had on him?
>the big reveal is that changing the universes didn't affect Car because he's a perfect being
>BUT IT DID AFFECT HIS TRAJECTORY
>also he got a stand because he's fucking Cars
>last part is Cars with his army of automated VAMPIRE stands
Kars lands on a stand asteroid and the residual warmth is enough for his body to automatically respond to it and absorb itself inside it for protection. This leads to him developing an infinitely powerful but mindless stand that warps the old reality with the new, crashing everything violently together until he is literally dragging both universes closer to him, not moving the asteroid to crash to earth but adjusting the location of 2 universe earths to come to him so he can awaken
>Jolyne and Joseph get mixed into one character
>Ultimate Rope Works.
Happy Valentine's Day, /a/!
My main gripe about Part 3 is Joseph losing to D'Arby.
What the actual fuck Araki? THAT WAS HIS THING. CHEATING AND BLUFFING IS JOSEPH'S THING, NOT TO MENTION HE COULD RIPPLE THE GLASS> FUCK.
Bro Part 3 has a naked little girl being eyeballed by a goddamn Orangutan.
I doubt they will include that on the anime though, I could be very wrong , we will have to wait and see.
He cheats as a hobby, but he was up against a professional bullshitter.
D'arby would have noticed
also that fight was amazing
That enraged me too. It was pretty much his schtick, and he couldn't even shine.
Shut up, stop taking one of Jotaro's best moments , Old Joseph rused Little D'Arby hard anyway, so why complain?.
Shit, what ever happened to that little girl? I can't remember her past Cars - The Sequel.
Part 3 had great lines, though. I'm going to crop a ton of them when I have the chance.
Became Jolyne's mommy
There were no rules against using Ripple.
This is Joseph we're talking about.
>D'arby would've noticed
The pillar men were beings of higher intelligence and Joseph still tricked them.
Jotaro's part wasn't even that great, but I'd be lying if I said I didn't enjoy it.
I enjoyed everything else Jotaro did more though.
she literally just fucks off half way through
we don't see her again
we don't get a Smokey-like after message that she becomes a prime minister or anything
just gone like a fart in the wind
They sent her ass back home on a plane because shit got beyond dangerous.
Fuck. I want to believe >>102046264
but the world is too big to find a single loli, and Jojo was busy with his uncle.
notorious B.I.G since it will never die
Yeah, for part 3 Araki unplugged the plot. It's just monster of the week shit, and although it looks incredibly cool and introduced stands, there's really not much substance.
I guess I'm just not as forgiving to her character as others. She was literally the worst kid sidekick in Jojo. Worse than Poco, worse than Smokey, just terrible
man why didn't purple haze get more screentime in the manga? it's my favorite stand of part 5 besides sticky fingers.
>The rain on the end of Stone Ocean was an effect of Weather Report being activated because Emporio broke into tears
Araki thought it was too strong and wrote off the character.
The same guy who made Heavy Weather.
his home planet needed him
All she did was sit there and say "Wow, JoJo is so cool!" a couple times, no shit she was the worst. What matters is that she was dropped like asteel ball. If she even had a mini panel at the end saying "Loli made up with her family and everything went alright," I would have been fine with it. Part 3 was kind of experimental, though.
Get a feeling so complicated
>That Weather Report shift in character at the end of part 6.
It was awesome.
>Emporio cracked and is now subjugating that universe now
But the Pillar Men slept for a fuckton of years, so they were unfamiliar with sleight of hand. The D'Arby bros were professional gamblers, so I don't think they would fall for Joseph's tricks.
so what do you prefer?
ripple, hamon or sendo
Fuck I love joseph.
>almost die by dio
>back to life
>first thing you do is fuck with your grandson
ripple or hamon, most likely ripple
I feel like Araki's art went bad when JoJolion hit.
I wonder if Araki doesn't like cats. He kills cats and dogs equally, but dogs are never associated with villains.
cats have always been associated with more villainous characters.
Fuckin' Viz Media. It's as if they don't want my money. I want Part 2 in my collection.
>not getting both Japanese versions
> Why does the curse affect first born sons?
I have a theory that the original Norisuke has the power to transfer himself into another body, so every generation he makes some preparations for his first son to be his next vessel. Kira discovered Norisuke's secret and got killed because of that.
I had that idea when it was mentioned that every family head changed his name to Norisuke at some point.
But I doubt Araki will go that way.
He hates all things equally.
Like eagles and plankton and whatnot.
There is only one exception.
YA YA YE CO CO JUMBO YA YA YE
stardust is actually why I gave up on the manga and just started waiting on the anime
When does it get better /a/?
When it gets to Petshop vs Iggy til the end of Part 3.
When did you give up?
How did Iggy get so shounen in one arc?
> I just want to take a moment and mention again that after this volume I’m probably out as far as part 3 goes. I’m pretty sure that guy that was working backwards through part 3 has also backed off.
Meant to quote >>102056419
> Fuckin' Viz Media.
Until the end.
But keep going because part 4 is arguable the best in the series.
I can only understand this if it was because of the yellow scans.
Because as unimpressive as most of part 3 is compared to other parts, it's still a pretty good manga. For 13 volumes I read it quite fast, in a page-turner sense.
Is it me or is he more flamboyant on ASB than in the manga?
>When did you give up?
I know it was after they got to india and an underwater stand or something. It's all a blur after so long
I have to admit the yellow scans was a factor, yeah
The same way Annasui became a man in the middle of Part 6.
That can be said about all the characters in the game.
Annasui-chan is such a qt
Damn, nigger. You didn't read shit.
No, I only get that from him. The rest are either not as flamboyant or were already so from the manga, in my opinion.
Its just his trap skills
How is the jap version of ASB anyway? Can you play online fine if you're using it in NA?
I already saw the english translate, pretty awful.
I never had a habit of playing online, so I haven't tried, but as far as I know you can. I'll confirm tomorrow in whatever Jojo thread I happen to find if nobody else does.
You have to have a Japanese PSN account to download the DLC characters and campaign mode, though, which is kind of a hassle.
i know this post is older than the corpse parts but valentine's goal was actually well intended while griffith just said
>fuck these guys, i want to be a leader
Didn't he use it to stop fucking bullets from hitting him, walk on water, and climb perfectly smooth oiled surfaces?
Yeah, its TOTALLY useless.
heh, I get it
Some of you still here? I haven't read Jojo in a long time and just please bear with me.
Basically I'm trying to recall some stuff I thought of long ago, but I forgot how it went.
What was the theory behind SP being actually Jonathan's stand? Or was it The World?
He's dead, Jim.
Wasn't there something along the lines Dio mentioning about having all the Joestar powers because he inherited them from Jonathan?
As I said, I don't remember how it went, but it was pretty plausible.
There was also that shit about Tarkus being SP basically
I'm not up to speed, but I've read that he supposedly inherited it from taking over Jonathan's body. Then again, there were several inconsistencies like the blood transfusion, so Araki probably just didn't think it all the way through.
>Hasn't read JoJo yet
The anime will be 24-26 episodes so expect it to be much faster paced.
They will most likely cut some of the filler fights like Wheel of fortune
So Jonathan's would-be stand is SP/The World then
No, The World is Dio's because alt universe Diego uses the world.
And extend-punches, punching through stuff, cutting with liquid projectiles, controlling people...
>Stop bullets from hitting him
He stopped a Space Ringer Stingy Eyes, From a vampire.
>Walk on water
Cool that will help in the fights where all their enemies had better advantage in the water.
>Climb perfectly smooth oiled surfaces
Or he could just, iunno, use his stand for that.
>He stopped a Space Ringer Stingy Eyes, From a vampire.
You mean against Straits? He didn't do that with Hamon.
>walking on water
>not useful under any circumstances
>Or he could just, iunno, use his stand for that.
Are you talking about Hermit Purple? Because it needs anchoring to pull you up, and Hamon wouldn't need that.
AWAKEN MY MASTERS
>doctah holding the mask
He also just put this out last night
Too bad he didn't use the Jap voices
He stopped Santanna's bullets with ripple infused hair
Rubick as Jotaro, I'm laughing my ass off. With Jap voices it would have been 10/10.
>Stop bullets from hitting him
He did, though, Santana absorbed the bullets and shot them through his fingers, remember?
Speaking of Viz, Vol 2 is back in print for those who don't know.
They said Vol 6 and 8 would be back soon, but is there a date for that release?
Good thing too. Re-reading it now, and the part with captain tenile and the horny boat gorilla is complete idiocy.
And the girl who keeps getting in trouble ends up having zero relevance, or personality for that matter. Her inclusion in the story would make sense if she was a love interest for Jotaro or something, but she's just a cunt.
>That shiteating grin on star platnium
The gorilla needs to be in the anime though
its a orangutang you fucking faggots
Oh, come one, don't be so idealistic. Every politician wants power and money.
The only difference between a "good" and a "bad" president is that a "good" one gives a shit about his country and its people, doing things for their benefit as well, while a "bad" one only cares about getting power and money for himself and his inner circle and doesn't care about the rest of the country, which is just a tool for him(Putin is a perfect example).
>America in SBR is actually named the United States of Valentine.
I'm pretty sure that was just a silly mistranslation. It's referred to as "America" or "USA" several times later.
Gyro fucking didn't. His goal was justice from the start, and he didn't even need corpse parts to kick the shit out of people.
A great man. Perhaps too good for this world?
I finished part 3 last night and I loved this scene and when Jotaro stopped time after Dio reached his limit
You do know there's new scans of the end of part 3, right?
Also, I'm surprised the trailer for ASB didn't spoil it for you.
>there's new scans of the end of part 3
I think those are the ones MangaTraders has, but if they aren't there there's Batoto too.
Ripple/Hamon users have really good control over momentum and velocity. I think its heavily implied that they can stop or at least reduce oncoming attacks, and change kinetic energy.
No one is denying that stands aren't better, but its not like its totally useless.
Also, the slowing down ageing thing seems useful, stupid ass Old Joseph.
I get it, he's a 21st century schizoid man who pulls out his frog phone to talk to the wind. That's funny.
Okay time to end this thread of what is the best part.
The bests part is SBR and second best is Stone ocean.
A few years ago, I had the chance to buy a licensed replica of Kira's tie at a convention for $10 but didn't, since I didn't know about JBA back then. Fucking hell!
>yfw seeing what it costs on THAT site
7 > 4 > 2 > 3 > 6 > 5 > 1
SBR is like Battle Tendency if Caesar had survived past his first fight.
The broship, the fights... they're pretty close, but I'd say 7 edges out 2.
It's a pretty standard monster-of-the-week format. The crazy powers and manliness were enough to sustain it for me, though I do see how you could feel that way.
Later arcs do get away from the standard battle manga format, and Jojolion is def the least fighting-like thus far
I hope that they keep Petshop vs Iggy