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tsukihime
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nasu got a reserved spot in hell for this
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>>101981773
but it looks better
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>>101982049
Arc looked liked refined in the old image, the new image she looks like a teenager in a mini-skirt - I'm too much of a fan of her old look.
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>>101982049
It looks like something out of a pixiv page.
the old one was justfiable, this one no
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>>101982682
I don't know why they changed Arcueid and Ciel so much. I do think Akiha, Kohaku and Hisui look pretty good though if there was anything good about the remake style.
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I wanna see remake Nrvnqsr and Roa .
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>>101982453
>grandma skirt and takeuchi colouring
>refined
Yeah, OK buddy.
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>>101982795
Ciel will always be shit so they may as well have.
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>>101981486
Damn, Takeuchi come a long way with his style.
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>>101982453

You mean Arc just looked poorly drawn.

Admit it, you're all just nostalgia fags.
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>>101983111
Watch what you say, busta.
>>101983273
I like it for the same reason I like Ryukishi07's garbage. It's garbage, but I've grown attached to it after these years and find it endearing.
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>>101983141
He's improved quite a bit, but he's still lacking compared to a lot of artists. His style just isn't that good.
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>>101983273
The old art was simple, but Arc's design was still good. I don't mind her new design so much but her old look still looks nice. Still, I'd rather see an updated old look.
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>>101983433
Takeuchi's design aesthetics have changed significantly over the years.

He probably just doesn't find Arc's old design aesthetically pleasing anymore.

Meanwhile, his love of maids continues to live on.
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>>101981486
At least she's not a complete Saber clone.

Her eyes are a bit smaller than Saber's, I think.

...So that's a start.
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>>101983427
I'm just happy there won't be any gorilla arms.
Also Ciel seems to have bigger tits than Arc but maybe it's just tighter clothes.
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I like their re-designs.
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>>101984280
Best thing about the remake.
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>>101984280
More just an art style update.
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>>101981486
>All Ages
>Near Side of the Moon routes only
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>>101984238
>Update
Dear god, Arcueid's legs have got legs. She's maybe two steps away from being Bayonetta tier.
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>>101984343
>Near Side of the Moon routes only

Wait, what?
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>>101984310
Something something Mystic Eyes, because you just killed that joke.
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>that new design
Dear god what an improvement.
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>>101984446
Various interviews have had Nasu say they're not sure whether the remake will be All Ages or 18+, and whether they'll include Dark Side in the first printing, since Dark Side is a lot darker than Near Side.
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>>101984280
They just made Hisui a best again.

Meanwhile, Ciel got too revamped, can we still see the classic parted in the middle hairstyle?
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>>101984647
No.

That would create an overlap with Ryougi, and we can't have that. She's Nasu's favorite, after all.
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>>101984708
Then it's not fucking Ciel anymore. I'm guessing she's keeping the new look in school, while she dons the old hair style when she's in church assassin mode or something.
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>>101984545
So, Sacchin's route never?

;_;
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>>101984801
My guess is Takeuchi didn't think her old design was cute enough so he ditched it.

Why are people so surprised, anyway? This isn't the first time he's done this. Ditch designs he doesn't like anymore and replace them with new ones, I mean.
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>>101984802
First, the part about "no far side" is bullshit, none of the interviews have it.
Secondly Sacchin route will be near side anyway.
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Everyone looks fine to me but in the end I'm a Saberfag so my opinion will be automatically discarded.
I actually like new Ciel more though. The old design just doesn't fit with her personality and looks like any character archetype in the 90s.
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>>101984238
Akiha's too classy for a mini skirt huh. If they'll do the far side routes, will she ever get a good ending?
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>>101981486
I like both designs but this shit ain't gonna get a release. Nasu has been working on this or 4 fucking years.
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>>101984979
It didn't look too bad with longer hair and a pony tail.
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>>101985115
Nasu and Takeuchi were always on about how "Ciel was supposed to be cute but then she turned out like that..."

You kind of get the impression that they were never really satisfied with how she came out, in both looks and personality.
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>>101985087
>4 fucking years.
Not even 2 actually. The production started after Mahoyo was released.
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>>101985391
Takeuchi was probably working on art long before that, though.
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>>101985115
Who the hell are these perverts copping a feel off my qt French waifu?
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>>101985391
I mean, all they need is new art for most of the routes.
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>>101985535
>Implying Nasu isn't in the process of completely re-writing 98.9% of the story, as well as planting in a new Saber route.
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>>101985640
>Saber gets referenced by Arcueid and Ciel
>Fragment of Avalon appears in Dark Side of the Moon
>Eclipse has Aozaki Touko, escorted by Saber
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>>101981486
Oh cool an update.
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>>101985640
>>101985708
Nah Saber will appear as a cameo as best.
But a Saber route is fine too, I want Len route though.
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>>101985640
In all seriousness, though, Nasu probably has completely rewritten everything from scratch. Anyone who even remotely entertained the idea of him NOT doing so has no idea, man.
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>>101985535
New art, music, animations ect. Plus Nasu rewriting it and it must be pretty heavy rewriting considering that, in new TMA, Nasu said that his week schedule looks: 5 days Tsukihime, 2 days rest of the shit.
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>>101984238
>Ciel's glasses aren't dorky
>Akiha isn't wearing red
HERESY
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>>101985856
That liar!

He's already admitted to being admitted to Dark Souls!
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>>101985865
Let's be honest, her old clothes were kind of tacky. Who the hell wears a bright red skirt with a blue blouse?

At least this way she looks a bit more refined.
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If my mood swings align with the lunar cycle, I'll buy it. Against my better judgment.
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Fuck new designs. Fuck updated graphics. I hate change, keep it the way it was ya fackers.
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At least she isn't exposing her ankles like that other lecherous woman.
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>>101986254
You could always just reread the original, nothing is stopping you.
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>>101985932
>とまあ、そうはいっても月姫もガシガシやってるからそこは大目に見てほしい。 らっきょも終わったし、具体的には週五月姫・週二Fateぐらいの割合。ホントだって。
>……ホロウの収録とかEXTRAまわりとかあるけど、そこはそれ、一週間を九日ぐらいに増やせればなんとか……なる……さ……
>If I increase my week to 9 days everything will... be... fine...
Poor Nasu losing his mind.
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>>101986308
Others will read it, and that bothers me.
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>>101983341
Do you wear the same shirt for weeks?
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>>101986317
He just wants more days to play Dark Souls!
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ITS ATARI DUMBLEDORE FROM PORK-SLOPE TURKEY HANDLE I'D HIT IT!
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>>101986501
You don't?
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>>101984802
>>101984953
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>>101986501
Actually, yeah.
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>>101986725
Filthy.
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>>101986501
Not weeks, months.
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>>101986756
Oh man. You don't even want to know how long I've been wearing these socks.
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I like new Ciel.

It fits her role in the story better, as an overall cool but still slightly geeky senpai who has a dark secret.

Her old look was just 100% geek.
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>>101987087
I do hope that she undergoes a massive transformation when she goes executor mode, though. Who knows, underneath her clothes might be some relatively bulky shoulders.
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>>101984238
>Also Ciel seems to have bigger tits than Arc but maybe it's just tighter clothes.
They're meant to be the same size in BWH and even height, aren't they?
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>>101987087
I thought this look would be cool if they used it more.
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>>101987215
Actually, no. Arcueid has a larger bust and a thinner waist, and she's taller. Ciel has the larger hips.

Ciel's also heavier.

At least, that's how it was originally.
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>Since this looks like the only relevant Nasu thread

I'm going through the nasu-verse and am almost done with the serious Fate stuff: Is it really best to hold off on Tsukihime?

I'm told the art and systems are archaic but I grew up on 8-bit graphics and love old games.

Should I hold off for the remake or dive in?
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>>101987361
Read the original, all the way through would be good.
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>>101987305
>Arc...thinner waist,and she's taller.
>Ciel's also heavier.
Is it the muscles or the bum?
Maybe the muscles in her bum?
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>>101987361
Tsukihime is actually good, unlike F/SN.
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>>101984238
>That Akiha
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>>101987361
>almost done with the serious Fate stuff
TM will never finish milking that franchise. It's like their Super Mario.
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>>101987361
Consider that there are no relase date for the remake yet.
I say read it.
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>>101987488

I consider the serious Fate Stuff as FSN, Zero and HA, everything else is either Comedy or Creator Fan-fic.

>>101987418
>>101987465
>>101987492


Interesting, the Fate-fags said it would be eye-poison but looks like it should be fine. Thanks.
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>>101987692
>Fate-fags said it would be eye-poison
You trust them over us?
Seriously? That's preposterous!
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>>101987692
The art is dated yeah, but is doesn't detract from it as a whole.
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>>101987806
This art's from Melty Blood. The original Tsukihime's art is frankly horrendous compared to his current stuff.

Even Kagetsu Tohya, which was released pretty shortly after, was a massive improvement.
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>>101987692
The routes are amazing, you can witness Shiki go toe to toe against disgusting abominations, or watch him go completely insane; as always, 'both' is the correct choice.
Prepare for rape.
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I don't like the Akiha and Arc redesigns. I'm neutral about Ciel, but I don't like the character much. One of my friend is a Cielfag and he was pretty pissed off about the new design.

What bother me the more is how it removes characterization. Arc's old fashioned dress, Akiha's crimson dress, school Ciel's dorky look,... It really complemented their personality.
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>>101987918
I know it is from Melty Blood, just felt like posting a nice picture of Arc.
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>>101987474
>That Homura

FTFY
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Hopefully, the remake will have the near side routes to be as good as the far side ones.
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>Akiha
>black hairband
Absolutely disgusting.
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>>101987966
>Prepare for rape.
Some people say he's a cunt, but I thought Shiki was a fantastic MC.
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>>101988009
The remake will be all about the Sacchin route.
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When will ufotable remake the Tsukihime anime?
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>>101988046
Oh shut up. It looks elegant enough.

Who wears such a large white hairband anymore? Everything about her old design was tacky as hell. A large white hairband? A red skirt with a blue blouse? That's not what classy aristocrats wear, man.
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>>101988131
Hopefully they ever will.
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>>101987966

I read tsukihime for the rape
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>>101988046
It will look great with red hair plus it's possible that in remake she'll have multiple outfits and hairbands.
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>>101981486
Based Takeuchi.
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>>101988191
>That's not what classy aristocrats wear, man.
I'll have to take your word for it.
>>101988271
It's hard to improve on perfection, m8.
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I hope Tsukihime gets a remake.

[Spoiler]Before I die so I can read it.

That fucking tiny ass resolution, 90's teir geocites gif sprites, and brutal to read font. I just got to the mansion, and can't keep going.[/spoiler:lit]
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>>101988746
Wait, what? What's wrong with the font?
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>>101988805

It's not Impact.
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>>101988746

1) You sure the font is rendered properly and Windows isn't resorting to a fall-back?
2) If it is the intended font can't you change it in the options/swap it out in the files?
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>>101988664
Just when I thought we could get away from another Saber.
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>>101981486
>no long-ass hand
HE FINALLY LEARNED.
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>>101981486
Old arc was colored with the MSpaint fill tool and looks like a man, where is the problem
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>>101988259
As you should, m8. Carry on.
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>>101988259
I read Tsukihime for THIS CHAIR.
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>>101988259
As did most of us
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>>101989795
>Sad Sachin in the window
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Newer Arc looks better.
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And it'll take even longer to translate...
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anime or manga?
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>>101990925
The manga is pretty good, anime is bad.
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>>101990993

What anime?
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>>101990925
>anime or manga?
Aside from the fact that there is no anime, the manga is not bad, despite covering worst girl's route. VN is the only way to go here.
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>>101981486
The new hair looks like the model she was based off was. Jesus Christ, at least Takeuchi can draw Arc without her having those gorilla arms that you see in Tsukihime in Fate/Stay Night.
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>>101991227
Arc is the only "Tsukihime" in the game. Her route's pretty much the only route you can use if you want to adapt anything.
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So is it confirmed that this remake is still happening?

When was the last time we got any info whatsoever on it?
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>>101993223
She was an interesting character.
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>>101993223
She's the Moon Princess, but for those that have actually played the game you know that she's not the real meat in that story. Her route is in the middle in terms of quality, but anyone in the know knows that final two routes are the real shit.

You can hold yourself to "Well the title of the show is My Little Sister Can't Be This Cute, so he can only marry the sister in the end even though he doesn't do that" or you can adapt something people might prefer.
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>>101993723
You do know Arcueid is the most popular heroine from Tsukihime, right?

By a landslide.
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>>101993793
People tend to vote for the main heroine without giving it any real thought, since she's the poster girl and it's the route most are familiar with.

It's like saying "Hey, Saber is the most popular heroine, so of course her route is the best here"
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>>101993930
Uh huh.

You're one of those types who think "people don't know what they want" and is convinced that he alone is right, right?
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>>101994020
Who said I'm right, I just said that the heroines popularity doesn't mean her route would be the best or best adapted. Arc's route is a good intro into the game, but for people who played it through the last routes were the real meat.
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>>101994146
Arc's route is also canon, as Kagetsu Tohya follows it.
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>>101994146
So now you're speaking for complete strangers?

Look, just say "I like the last routes best and wish they were adapted rather than a route I don't like". There's no shame in admitting you have likes and dislikes.

I like Kohaku's route best but I'm not exactly gonna go round putting words into the mouths of people I've never even met before.
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>>101994184
I wouldn't say that's exactly indicated, since he gets with everyone in the dream world a bit, and the only indication we see in the real world is that he was spending time with Arc before being hit by that truck. Also she sent Len to watch after him while he was in the hospital.

I don't recall if there's more of a clue than that, but it could just be another mash route like Melty Blood.
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>>101993930
>People tend to vote for the main heroine without giving it any real thought, since she's the poster girl and it's the route most are familiar with.
That doesn't account for the large gap between her and the other Tsukihime heroines in the Fes poll, which was favorite three? characters across all of TM.
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>>101994333
It would be a bit strange if this took place after Arc's route and he's sexing dream bitches, and Len.
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>>101994333
No, he refers back to the ending of Arc's route at the beginning. She met up with him again as promised, and now she spends time with him in everyday life and stuff, but he's studying for school, and the whole reason he gets trapped in Ren's dreamworld to begin with was because he told Arc that he didn't want to take his exam.

But then in the dream world he has memories from all the routes, just because, it's a dreamworld so they can do that.
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>>101981486
What did you do to muh Arcueid, Type-Moon?
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>mini-skirt

This is the greatest crime against humanity ever.
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>>101994799
It's your fault, Shiki. Vampires have a special metabolism, so that when you squeeze their boobs from behind, their clothing rolls up. It's why the shirt looks less baggy, the skirt is shorter, and the boots are longer.
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She looks lovely, but fuck that skirt.
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>>101994904
But it's a crime to not squeeze those plump breasts!
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Personally, the whole skirt deal has me very conflicted. On one hand, the classyness of the old long skirt is a sad loss, but godDAMN, I fucking love pantyhose.
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>>101995182
Why can't you have pantyhose with long skirts?
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>>101995265
I know, but you just don't get to see it as much, and I'll be damned if Arc's legs aren't delicious.
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>>101995265

long skirts cover the whole leg. Think about it for a minute.
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>>101995265
What the hell's the point of pantyhose if you can't see it?

It's meaningless. To us.
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>>101995507

What if Arc was wearing pantyhose the whole time. This has completely shattered my world view.
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>>101995614
She wasn't. You can see her ankles.

Unless they were weird short pantyhose.
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>>101995661
What?
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This is probably really unlikely, but what if there are redesigns of the redesigns, like Takeuchi decided to change them from the initial time they were shown to now.
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>>101995742
Delicious pantyhose under long skirts.
YUM

>>101995333
>>101995356
What's the use of panties or garter string stockings then?
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>>101995816

I dunno man. No pan strong
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>>101995816
It's worthless if you can't see 'em! Pantyhose and knee-high socks only have meaning if you can see them clearly!
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>>101983273
I only finished Tsukihime last month. Before playing it I didn't see the issue with the redesigns, but my opinion's changed now. It doesn't fit her character at all, even if the art's improved.
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>>101995899
>It doesn't fit her character at all

We talking about the same Arcueid here?
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>>101995816
How do you know it's a proper pantyhose, huh? Not that it makes her any less sexy.
>What's the use of panties or garter string stockings then?
Those count when it's lewd time.
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>>101995947
The idea that she doesn't fit in with her surroundings is fairly prominent. Her old clothes were elegant but out of place, which suits her naivete personality and the fact that she's only just woken up in current times. The new clothes are almost too trendy for my liking.

I think all the other redesigns looks great though, the only other thing I have an issue with is Akiha's colour scheme.
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>>101995880
>>101995973
>>101995870
>no power of imagination
She's walking in that long skirt with sexy time wear
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>>101996149
A cute ditzyz idiot like Arcueid wearing a short skirt looks perfectly natural to me.

And Akiha's black and white look fits her personality way better than that gaudy white hairband/blue blouse/red skirt combination she used to wear.
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>>101996227
>Opinions

I think Arc being a ditzy idiot is precisely why it looks strange. I won't argue that it doesn't look good, I just don't it fits her. As for Akiha, I don't really mind. It's a minor point at best, I just think her old colour scheme was far more prominent, especially with the red hair.

Good thing we've got both the original and the remake.
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>The idea that she doesn't fit in with her surroundings is fairly prominent. Her old clothes were elegant but out of place
No they weren't. They were specifically meant for her to fit in. Remember, Tsukihime took place in the 90s. That kind of fashion wasn't out of place at all.

Now it's just being updated to take place in the 2000s.
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>>101996416
Do you really think someone with Akiha's personality would wear a bright red skirt? Takeuchi didn't seem to have much sense in that department, really.

When you design a character's clothes, you should also keep in mind what they would personally choose to wear. And to be honest, I can see Akiha choosing the new clothes over the old ones every single time. I honestly can't see her even considering to buy the old clothes.

Arcueid probably bought her clothes too.
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>>101996551
>Do you really think someone with Akiha's personality would wear a bright red skirt?

You mean do I really think that someone with Akiha's personality would choose to wear her school's uniform? Uh, yes.
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>>101996627
...The red skirt isn't her school uniform, anon. That's her casual wear.
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>>101996676
sh-shut up, I knew that.

For some reason I thought that uniform was from when she transferred to Shiki's school, but now I remember that she kept her old one.
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>>101996551
I do actually. It's the type of thing she'd do while trying not to make a big deal of it. She wants to look striking for when Shiki returns to the mansion.

Same deal with Arc, I don't see her knowing what to actually wear, so she ends up looking out of place as a result.

But what do I care, Hisui's my favourite by a landslide anyway and I'm more than happy with how she is.
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>>101996458

Do you think the time frame is going to be updated as well? I cant really imagine Shiki with a cellphone.
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>>101996812
In any case, a red skirt is honestly too bright and gaudy; given her serious personality, I'd imagine she'd gravitate more towards the black and white.

Plus, her red hair in the inverted state would stand out better with her new clothes.
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>>101996868
If Arcueid walks around town and sees most girls wearing short skirts, I'd imagine she'd go for the short skirt.

And the serious and straight-laced Akiha, using fashion to try to catch Shiki's attention? I don't buy it. She has her pride, you know.
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>>101996905
Shiki lived in an old fashioned japanese tea house, so he probably wouldn't have a cell phone. Other people in his class probably would though.
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Gotta love how were going to have the updated art but no sex scenes to go with them.
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>>101997057

But I want to fap to mollusks more.
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>>101996905
Nasu's protagonists are all very old-fashion-minded.

Shiki would never buy a cell phone unless Akiha or his aunt and uncle told him to or something.

I suppose Akiha would probably have one, though. As the head of a prestigious clan with several businesses under its name, she'd kind of have to have a method of communication on her person at all times in this day and age.
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>>101997057

They don't need it anymore, they have the fanbase to not need shoehorned porn anymore and still get good sales.

Not that I wouldn't mind fapping to any of Nasu's new seafood desciptions
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>>101996989
Again, opinions. I don't think you'll change my mind, but I respect what you think. My original post was just refuting nostalgia as a reason in any case. Is the remake actually set in modern times rather than 15 years earlier?
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>>101997057
>updated art
>no porn
FUCK YOU T-M
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>>101997146
Personally my fetish is canon nudity, or nudity in general that's in the same art style as the source material, so I'll be really disappointed if it's All Ages. The sex scenes can still be good if they write them better.
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>>101997057
I always felt that Hisui was too pure for H-scenes.
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Why the miniskirt?
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>>101997368
But that just means she's easily deceived.

She'd be halfway to climaxing before she realizes something is amiss.
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>>101984647
But Hisui was great to begin with. I'm glad that they were spared from the changes.
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>>101984280
Why does Hisui remind me of Saber now?
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>>101997414
Her design isn't eye-catching enough otherwise.

It's just two solid masses of colors. Visual novels live and die by their heroines. If the main heroine isn't eye-catching enough, it could be death.

Also, Takeuchi probably likes miniskirts.
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>>101997493
Not as much as he loves boots
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>>101997491
Because Hisui was proto-Saber.
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>>101994184
Kagetsu Tohya also follows Akiha route too you dingus. Don't say anything if you don't know shit.
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>>101997443
You can't fix perfect.
>>101997493
Seems he used to like long skirts but had a change of heart.
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>>101997532
It doesn't though. That's only in the dream world.

In the real world, at the beginning of the game, it's after Arc's route. The only route where Arc sticks around and hangs out with Shiki in his regular life.
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>>101997536
He might have also wanted the maids to stand out with their long dresses.

They're the only ones who haven't had their designs altered. Isn't that a little suspicious...?
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Takeuchi's old art has aged a lot better than many artists', like pic related.
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>>101996676
I want Akiha to step on my dick while she gives me that look.
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>>101997669

Oh god please spoiler Keyshit.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LIleIBSm_zc

Help me /a/, I believe I've heard this song played as a kid. I don't remember much, but I peeked at some Japanese girl playing it on her piano.

Why does it sound familiar? This VN came around 2000 right? Why does it bother me so?
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>>101998586
If I recall correctly, a lot of Tsukihime's original tracks were public domain.
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>>101998795
This also probably means most the original tracks won't be used in the remake.
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>>101988271
>>101988420
>fucking Akiha hard in her route
It... felt like justice.
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>>101997122
Thinking back, in all of the times when Shiki came home late and left everyone on the household sick worried, Akiha could've just bought him a phone, it's not like thre were no phones in the 90s, they were just expensive as fuck.
Things were so fucked up that buying a phone would be a natural solution for a rich family.
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>>101999930
The only TV in that old mansion was the one in Kohaku's room.

Akiha doesn't seem to care for modern technology very much.
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>>101999209
They could always remaster it.
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>>102000105
Nope.

Using public domain music doesn't really look very good, especially for a relatively famous-ish company like TYPE-MOON.

Most likely, all of the public domain music will be thrown out and new tracks will be made from scratch. They'd have to uphold some kinda image, and I doubt the affiliated musicians would want to stick with music they didn't make either.
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>>101990901
Start learning moon now and you'll be able to read it without text hookers when it comes out. Only thing stopping you is yourself.
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>>102000511
...How much longer do you expect development to go for?
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>>102000580
Until they get tired of milking the Fate franchise
You know when that'll be, don't you?
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>>102000165
I have no idea if this is legit or not, but if it is, at least the main theme will continue.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zLwhkGubSxA
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>PSVita re-re-release
>old costumes and/or old art style sold as DLC
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>>102000642
Yeah, I'm pretty sure the main theme was an original track. Not ALL of the tracks used in Tsukihime were public domain. I think only a small handful were?

In any case, given the standards set by Fate/stay night, we can probably expect a lot new stuff. Probably at least twice the tracks the original game had.
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>>102000686
Sure, right, they'll draw completely new sets of character portraits and CGs. Of course.
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I wonder if they'll make the actions scenes more dynamic.
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>>102000795
Many, if not most VNs, like to abuse the layering trick.

They make a "sprite" for a character, then make separate "sprites" for their clothing. So if they were to change their clothes for some reason, they leave the character model onscreen, but layer them with different clothes.
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>>102000914
That decreases the quality of the art.

Also, that's pointless anyway, since Takeuchi would still need to draw all the poses from scratch.

And there's still the CGs.

Don't see why it matters that much anyway. You're only gonna be able to see Arcueid's top half most of the time, after all. The only one that would make a difference for is Ciel.
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>>102000908
They're probably not gonna be animated, no.
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>>101981486
When did Saibah cut her hair?
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>>102000971
It's not gonna happen anyway because I was joking about DLC, and because DLC sounds like a very silly idea for a VN.

It's still gonna take forever to complete.
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>>102000914
Wait, does that mean we can get a full nude model of the characters on the files???
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>>102001138
Only if Takeuchi bothers drawing them.
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>>101981773
>Nasu
>having anything to do with artwork
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>>102001138
Well, that only happens with ero-VNs, which is to say, 99% of them.

Non-H VNs typically have underwear as the "base sprite." Male characters typically wear tighty-whiteys because they cling to the skin, because boxer shorts are too broad & square.
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>>101981486
If they had only kept her long skirt, it would've been perfect.
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>>102002215
Long skirts are boring. They're as boring as drawing long purple trapezoid.

At least Hisui has an apron to break up the monotony.

Maybe that's why Takeuchi ditched the long dress work.

...I gotta say, I don't feel too optimistic about Ciel's battle robes.
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>>102002592
>Boring
>Not elegant as hell and entirely too uncommon these days

I'll take a long purple trapezoid over a short black one any day

Surely they wouldn't change Ciel's robes though. Would they?
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>>102002592
>Long skirts are boring. They're as boring as drawing long purple trapezoid.
I don't like your tastes.
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>>102002786
It's too monotonous.

That's probably why Arcueid was given that necklace, too. Call the old look 'elegant' if you want, even if I don't really agree. I can definitely understand why Takeuchi, as a character designer and illustrator, would have wanted to do what he did.

Besides, the current design fits Arcueid's "white princess" theme better. The old long purple skirt overwhelmed the white parts too much. Black, on the other hand, contrasts with white perfectly and allows it to stand out much better. But frankly, from a design stand-point, a long black skirt would be even worse than a long purple one, since that would only further serve to overshadow the white parts. On the other hand, a black short skirt and tights aren't just one solid block of color, so while there's more black in Arcueid's overall design, the solid white that makes up the majority of her upper body manages to stand out, with the black parts supporting it.

Colors are pretty interesting. You must balance them very precariously. Having "more" of one color won't necessarily balance things out. I don't know if Takeuchi really thought that hard about this, but he wouldn't really have to. Our brains just naturally react to certain color combinations and designs in certain ways, so things will usually just automatically click into place if you know what it is you want.
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>>102003191
If he was really aiming for the "white princess" theme she'd do better in a dress. While I agree with what you're saying about the black/white contrast, there's too much black between the skirt, stockings and boots to really emphasize the white.

I guess I just prefer the idea of Arc looking mature whilst acting childish. It's more interesting to me than what the redesign presents. But I'm happy for the remake to try different things regardless, since I'll be treating it as a separate entity from the original Tsukihime. Who knows, playing it might change my mind later down the track.
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>>102003559
As already stated, a solid black long skirt would destroy any balance the design could have had.

The short skirt and legs isn't just one straight solid mass like the long skirt would have been. That's what keeps the black from overwhelming the white.

Contrast with Akiha, who DOES have a solid black skirt. Despite the white blouse, Akiha is considerably more "black" than Arcueid is. Of course, it's not helped by the solid mass of black hair, but even if she were blonde like Arcueid was (crudely pictured on the left), black would still be seen as her "dominant color". This is because the mass of unbroken black is larger than the mass of unbroken white. Meanwhile, the black parts on Arcueid are separated into "segments" (black skirt + black leggings), so they don't form a single solid block like Akiha's skirt does.

As a further example, look at Akiha's original design. Even though red only makes up 1/3rd of her overall color scheme, most would still be inclined to name it as her dominant color. That's the kind of effect a solid mass of color can have.

That small difference in design can easily create a world of difference.
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>>102003870
I dunno man, I kind of agree with what you're saying but looking at your masterful Akiha edit, the yellow strikes me as the most dominant colour despite the sheer amount of black because of how prominent it is. It really stands out against the rest of her since black and white are very much background colours and anything other than those colours is immediately eye catching. This isn't the case for Arc since her hair is shorter and as you said the "sections" break up the pattern a bit.

So while I agree with what you're saying about the effect a solid mass of colour can have, it's important to note the actual colours themselves against them.

You've changed my mind on Akiha's design though, following that line of thinking the plain black/white combo will do a great job of really making her red hair look vibrant when she transforms.

I've gone up and down edited this post so it might be a bit of a jumbled mess.
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>>102004315
Well for Akiha, we do have this: >>101988271

Black does, indeed, work better with inverted Akiha's red hair.

In fact, looking at the coloring used on red-haired Aoko Mahoyo, if Akiha's hair has that same glowin effect, the contrast that black provide might create some very nice effects.
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>>102001342
Tsukihime remake will be All Ages, most likely. Gotta milk those monies.
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>>101981486
Goddammit, those fucking boots, why.

At least give her laceups or something.

And maybe a sarong skirt instead of that horrible miniskirt.
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>>102000580
>Nasu: I'm working 5 days a week on Tsukihime and 2 days on the ufotable FSN
>Takeuchi: But Kinoko, what will you do when Dark Souls II comes out?
>Nasu: Oh shit, we have a problem
From their blog. Don't expect the remake anytime soon.
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>>101981486
Turtlenecks are disgusting.
Same with Rin. And Steve.
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>>101983427
>opinions
He's one of my favourite artist.
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>>102005559
>Steve
Over the fucking line.
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>>101985855
This. Nasu is basically the Murata of VNs. I mean the perfectionism trait.
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>>101985640

>Nasu
>writing a Saber route

It'll be a Sakura route. But Takeuchi will whine so he'll write a Saber route for him, they'll replace Hisui and Kohaku after they die in a freak accident.
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>whoreskirt

into the trash it goes
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>>102007001

Well there's still 3 Sakura clones he didn't use.
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>>101981486
>miniskirt
Why?
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>>101984280
>dem huge foreheads
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>>101984238
People never used to care about Ciel so you know they did something right with the redesign.
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Carnival phantasm Arc was perfect, why don't use it
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