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Why was the end to the anime so much of an asspull? Are we supposed to think that he's so much of a genius that he can predict something that has nothing to do with baseball or strategy, or that he can see out of the back of his head?
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Yes.
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Yes.
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>>101971463
yes
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdbunAfRweU
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>>101971463
are you talking about the time this guy touched his butt?
i would also look in my pockets if some random dude slaped me there.
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Yes.
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One Outs had such a fucking great OST :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9y5UWSztCts&list=PLE3F207EE7D7CCB6A
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>>101972647
My favorite theme was:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfIz5RSOIDU

Also, weather asspull was my favorite asspull. I didn't know what he was planning up until that point.
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>>101971463
Yes, the MC is baseball Akagi after all. It was always a question of how he would win, not if he would win. I never knew what Tokuchi was doing before it was explained to me, but the show was still very entertaining for some reason.
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4 way GAMBRU: Akagi vs. Tokuchi vs. Akiyama vs. Kaiji

Who comes out on top?

>>101971463
Yep. There are real people like this anon, no one ever meets them though because they're sitting on top of millions of dollars
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>>101972807
Tokuchi making it rain while flashing his fucking smug face was the best moment in the entire series.

That or Kurai getting healed and wrecking the entire enemy team alone.
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Tokuchi carried the entire show with his smug face for me.

Couldn't help but smile like an idiot every time.
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This was one of the best scenes
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>>101972647
>>101972807
Hell yeah.
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>>101973033
Kaiji wins, the other characters' overconfidence will be their downfall.
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>>101971463

You really thought Tokuchi would fall for that kind of entry level trick?
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>>101974139
At least they should've explained how he knew about the trick then.
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>>101974223
I figured it out after that guy tapped his ass.
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>>101974223
He figured it out after he felt that guy tap his ass.*
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The manga is nearly done being scanlated isn't it? Need to pick it up when it's finished.

I remember when I watched a real Baseball game on TV one night and thought "well, this is nothing like One Outs." I knew it wouldn't be but still. It's like how I imagine all Mahjon to be like Akagi.
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>>101973033
Akagi is a gambling master who cheats and has crazy luck
Tokuchi is a gambling master who doesn't cheat or use luck
Akiyama doesn't gamble, cheat, or use luck
Kaiji cheats but has shit luck and is awful at gambling

Akagi would pretty much curbstomp everyone, Kaiji would be at the bottom. Everyone else is a toss up.
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>>101974726
>is awful at gambling
Not true. Kaiji has faced smarter opponents than the rest of those guys have, and he still won (most of the time).
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>>101974726
I wouldn't say Akagi has crazy luck. He came across the lucky ones and dealt with it with his skills or cheating, most of the time. He's yet to get a monster hand, is he?
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>>101974726

I think the most important factor is what would be on the line. Akagi wouldn't be interested unless the loser would get utterly crushed, and Tokuchi is kind of the same, but he's interested in gaining too. Kaiji needs to have lost a couple of times before and be on his absolute last straw to perform.
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>>101974726
Maybe switch Akiyama with Zero, since Zero is a bit more competent. I'm not so sure Tokuchi would get totally crushed by Akagi, but I dunno. How good is Akagi at other GAMBRU stuff other than Mahjong?
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I love rewatching One Outs, except for the segments in the Blue Mars game where they try to find the source of the signal as well as the hidden mic. Since you know for sure the second time around it just gets dreadfully boring, since they drag it out quite a lot by coming with incorrect theories and shit.
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>>101974926
Well, actually, none of his opponent ever had exceptional luck, have they?
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>>101975156
Yeah they made it way too obvious.

Though to be honest the whole show was dragged out too long, not as bad as Kaiji or Akagi though.
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Washizu

But also less about luck, when he knows he is behind he will usually pull something out of the bag like in Ten.
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>>101975224
Washizu.
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>>101974726
Tokuchi cheats if someone else cheats, so he will end up cheating to win or using the opponent's cheating as their downfall.
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>>101975321
I don't think he's ever cheated himself, just manipulated opponents cheating.
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>>101974865
Because he cheats. He's not good because he doesn't cover his ass or know when to quit. As >>101974954 said, he needs to be almost losing to win, and he cries when's losing or afraid.

A good gambler, but not as good as akagi or tokuchi, that's for sure.

>>101974926
>police come, gets daisangen against yakuza
>dice roll ruins ishikawa's wall
>kills urabe with magical sand
>washizu fails dora 12 tsumo
>that power of coincidence
Not washizu-level luck, but definitely unnatural.
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>>101974498
the manga is done being scanlated. There'll be a gap between chapters where the scanlators didn't bother scanning since the anime covers it
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>>101974726
the true question is:
will they play baseball or mahjong?
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>>101974498

It's done, I recommend reading it because I don't think we'll get that precious second season anytime soon.
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>>101975039
He was playing Chicken before he got into Mahjong. It was purely his mentality that led to his win, not his knowledge of Mahjong
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>>101974726
Whoa, hold your horses there. While there is doubt Akagi would win Tokuchi would be less than a step behind the whole time. He wouldn't get curbstomped just a light slap of the wrist.
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>>101975460
When has Kaiji ever cheated? Not including the times when his opponent was also cheating or the game was rigged.
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>>101974726
Kaiji has ridiculous luck where it matters. Half the bog arc is him lucking out to Ichijou's asspulls.
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>>101975655
I'd assume his tissue box scheme.
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>>101975039

Akagi is a fucking beast at any gamble. It's not that he was a genius at mahjong specifically, it's just that Mahjong was the best way to play high-stake gambles in the time period.
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>>101975408
Last part of the anime. Those guys cheated way before Tokuchi played for the team so he cheated when he met with them. There is no way Tokuchi manipulated them into cheating.
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>>101975655
not really a fair thing to say. i'm pretty sure everyone he faced cheated, which is why we had something to read
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>>101975655
>Not including the times when his opponent was also cheating or the game was rigged.
There's only two games where this is the case and he cheats in one of them.
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>>101975473
>>101975554
It seems mangaupdates has lied to me then, cheers. Anyone have any idea if the anime missed anything out at all in the adaptation (I kind of doubt they did).
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>>101975792
He cheats and LOSES.
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>Has never read the manga.
>>101975319
Oh.
...In the raffle, at least, he trounced Kaiji by just sickeningly clever.
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Akagi isnt a big deal. Celestia beat him
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Tokuchi didn't seem like he wanted to resort to cheating, but at the same time he made it abundantly clear that he had nothing against cheating. Victory was all that mattered. I just don't think it's his thing, he's much better at exploiting weaknesses and manipulating people into exposing them.
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>>101975661
He also has high string of shit luck which lands him in deep shit in the first place.
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>>101975880
That was bullshit, you can't just say you beat a character from another series just because.
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>>101976008
But she did beat him, she also beat Washizu
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>>101975880
Who?
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>>101975880
Oh yeah, she did.

>>101976097
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>>101976036
You can't just appropriate characters from other series like that.

>>101976097
Bitch from Danganropa (completely different series with different author than fukomoto) who supposedly beat akagi and washizu because the writers wanted to emphasize how smart she was.
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>>101973729
Akagi would won. Kaiji is doubtful of himself but once he gets luck on his side he gets pretty careless. Akagi may seem overconfident but he just wants to have a thrill of a good game. Basically 90% of Washizu Mahjong is Akagi trying to force Washizu to stop playing overly careful "playing it safely for the win" game-style and start risking and embracing the "luck" side of the game.
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>>101976247
True, Kaiji is too emotional and manipulating emotion is the main strength of Tokuchi and Akagi
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http://www.reddit.com/r/whowouldwin/
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>>101976581

There are reddits for everything, that doesn't mean it isn't a legitimate target for discussion here.
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>>101976581
>>>/fuck off/
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>>101974726
Akagi cheats only occasionally though, that's also important.
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>>101974498
>It's like how I imagine all Mahjon to be like Akagi
It's never exactly like that while playing online, but it's a different story if you play it IRL and have at least one extremely good player.
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>>101977266

Yeah, he doesn't use it as a crutch, but rather for surprise attacks.

Those who cheat too much easily get too reliant on it.
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>>101971463
well, the ending to the manga was even more of an asspull in terms of baseball.
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It would be hilarious if what Tokuchi was doing behind the scenes and what happened to him during the games in the manga extras was actually true.
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>>101975847
nah, they got everything in the anime. it's basically a 1:1 copy
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What the hell happened to Liar Game? It hasn't been updated in nearly a year.



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