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Can we get a /ak/ thread up in this hood?

>ITT:
>Discussion of weapons/war related anime/manga
>Daily reminder there will never be a S2 to Upotte!!
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Also, /r/ing the continuation of the picture I posted in my OP
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>>101958108
I just finished SnW what do you guys think of it?
The show is tempting me to enlist in the military as a musician even though I haven't played one in a long time. we have conscription where I live, I leave for boot camp in a few month.
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>>101958108
>pointless cancer general
no
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>>101958108
/k/ is there any other show that you like beyond just Upotte?
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Need more GuP fix. Any SFW doujin worth reading?
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>There will never be a full-length series of Cat Shit One, based on the original manga set in Vietnam ;_;
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>>101958290
my AOAY
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>>101958322
Shhhhh, just relax and it will go in easy, or do you want me to start with the handguards first?
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>>101958290
Best anime I've seen.
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>>101958322
Yup, black lagoon, SnW, among others.
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But Upotte was awful.
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When will Americans learn that owning a gun isn't a hobby but a crime?
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>>101959023

Okay but that means every single police officer, soldier, secret service agent, and politicians (including anti-gun ones) are all criminals too.
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I wonder what gun culture is like in America. Do you go to ranges with your bros and shoot shit? Do you collect guns as a hobby?

>tfw possession of firearms will never be legalised in your country
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>>101959203
Yes to all anon. We get drunk too. Of course we never break safety rules while intoxicated.
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>>101959023
time to arrest the government
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>>101958108
das actually kawaii mane
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>>101959103
Isn't it actually the case though?
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All hail Germania!
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Live /ak/, Live!
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>>101958108
Sure, Anon.
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/ak/ threads are always quality content. Pic related.
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>>101968127
Well, we all can agree that /ak/ can only talk when it's about gear and stuff
I'll start
Gripen > Rafale

Rafale is good and all, but as overpriced and overbloated as overbloated lemon aka abrams
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>>101968352
>abrams

whatever you say europoor
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well, I was hoping to finally post Echiina 2 raws today, but the mail decided to fuck up instead.

Have a Yukari macro from the latest chapter instead
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>>101968972
here hold my beer
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>>101963791
Wtf is with the yellow sides?
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Daily reminder, etc, three months before US, etc.

I'm glad someone in here actually understands the gloriousness of /ak/-related titles though, even though I'd prefer it to be Waneko and not JG.
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>>101958290
do you live in switzerland?
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>Still haven't receive my Sora no Woto patch
It's been almost a month that I paid it ;_;
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>>101971509
Switzerland's musician troop school is a bunch of fags.
http://youtu.be/RHo_2CouBnI
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>>101971260
>Pancerniacy na Pyrkonie!
>Wszystkich fanów broni pancernej oraz czytelników mang zapraszamy do odwiedzenia zamorskiej sekcji pancernej liceum Ōarai! Z okazji premiery >pierwszego tomu serii "Girls und Panzer" podczas Festiwalu Fantastyki Pyrkon, od 21 do 23 marca, każdy fan będzie mógł spotkać się z dzielnymi >licealistkami, a także zobaczyć ich pancerną maszynę! Dzięki uprzejmości Pilskiego Muzeum Wojskowego, na teren festiwalu trafi 57 mm armata >przeciwpancerna oraz opancerzony samochód rozpoznawczy BRDM-2 w wariancie z wyrzutnią rakiet!

>Zapraszamy do odwiedzenia naszej wystawy!

Holy fuck they actually gonna get a tankette and an anti-tank cannon to a convention on which they're releasing GuP.
I take back what I've said about JG and I actually approve of this.
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>>101971944
polan pls
pls polan
english pls polan
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>>101971932
>>101971932
well, our country's military isn't much more than symbolic anyway.

I don't see why they don't just get rid of the Wehrpflicht and make a professional army for those military guys who actually enjoy it.

Could spend that money in so many better ways.
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>>101972197
so... /ak/ into PMC business when?
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>>101972197
They should rather not buy the grippen and buy more panzers for us to play with.
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>>101972027
not a native pole, but gonna try anyway

>Panzerfans on Pyrkon!
>We invite all armored weapons and manga fans to visit the overseas armoured section of Oarai High School! To commemorate the premiere of the first volume of "Girls und Panzer" series during Fantasy(the more wide term, not "high fantasy with elves and shit") Festival Pyrkon, from 21st to 23rd March everybody will be able to meet with the brave highschool girls, ans see their machine! Thanks to Military Museum of Piła, there will be a 57mm anti-armour cannon and an armoured recon car BDRM-2 in the spec with rocket launchers!

>We hope to see you there!
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>>101971944
>anti-tank cannon
Bastards!
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>>101972459
>anti-armour cannon
Someone will end up raped
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>>101968352
>/ak/ can only talk when it's about gear and stuff
or ninjas in tanks
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>>101972392
I'd rather they'd invest the money in something the country will actually use, such as education (they're actually cutting costs there, which I think is absolute bullshit). But I'll let Blattmann know the next time I see him walking down the Bundesplatz.
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>>101971944
>>101972459
Are there even that many slavshit fans anyway?
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>>101958290
You haven't played a musician in a long time?
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>>101972553
Sodoko, plas
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>>101972392
Why buy more panzers? Germany gives Leopard 2s away for free!
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What is the sexiest tank of WWII, and why is it the m4a1?
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>>101972197

Because a professional military is for expeditionary (i.e. foreign) war and a militia is for defensive operations. A nation with mandatory and widespread militia training (i.e. Switzerland) is a whore to attack or invade because a gun will be behind "every blade of grass" as the old fakequote goes. Insurgencies are one thing, but "every motherfucker who draws breath across the land laying for you with a rifle" is quite another. You can't really control a populace, or a country, like that.

Fun fact, the American National Rifle Association was originally founded expressly to ensure that Americans would always have experience with firearms (through hunting and shooting sports) so the nation could raise armies quickly when needed. America fought both World Wars with an army it basically whipped up overnight; it only takes six or eight weeks to train people to march in a line and follow orders, but it takes rather longer to teach them how to shoot straight. The small "professional" army was a core of experienced officers to lead the raw conscripts mustered overnight. (It wasn't until the Cold War era that America really needed, or made, a large standing army.) To this day that's where the bulk of NRA time and money goes. There's even government-funded programs in the same vein; the Civilian Marksmanship Program sells military surplus rifles to gun club members at steep discounts.

tl;dr put your 300 days in and shut the fuck up you pussy
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>>101972927
Is it? That would explain why it got so horribly raped.
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>>101973022
I said sexy, not best.
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>>101972927
You have a weird way of writting Twin 25-pdr Sentinel
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>>101972927

Well, because it was the best medium tank of the goddamn war. I like how the krautaboos jack off to MUH SLOPED ARMOR when the Sherman was sloped to hell and gone. Unlike, you know, the Panzer III and IV. It had spacious crew accommodation, which improved combat efficiency, lots of "little" spit-and-polish features that improved effectiveness like excellent optics, pistol-ports, etc and it was quick and handled well. Even had a god-damned gyrostabilizer.

For weaponry, it either had the "good enough to blow up infantry or halftracks or sweet christ what useless shit are they sending at us now is that a truck with a cannon on it, are they even trying or are they out of real fucking tanks now" gun, or the "okay we can do that fuck your shit have some high-velocity 76mm" gun. For armor you had the "its a medium tank" tank or the "okay fuck it babby Tiger weld twice the armor on and call it the JUMBO and we're good" tank.

The only real disadvantage was it couldn't turn in place. It had a good suspension system to so fuckkit
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>>101973221
>>101973252 here
Specifically saying the same thing
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>>101972974
That implied that the population would be willing to fight for it's homeland though. Now I don't know about Switzerland, but the rest of Europe has been so effeminated and pussified by the liberal media that I doubt anyone would be willing to resist foreign invaders.
Hell, collaboration would be through the fucking roof, I bet.
I hate these times
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>>101973296
>best medium tank of the goddamn war.
That was the Panther. Deal with it.
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>>101973252
You have a weird way of writing panzer mark V
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>>101973345
>inb4 buttmad slavboos
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>>101973252
Wasn't it only a prototype?
And the single barreled Sentinel has a dick on the front lel
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>>101973345
>implying the tank that was 20 tons heavier was in the same weight class

But hey lets go along with that. You still lose. Panther had laughably thin side armor which made it hilariously vulnerable to flanking attacks; i.e. any engagement that wasn't defensive or conducted across a wide-open steppe. Great for fighting the Russkies, which was basically what it was built for. But the best general-purpouse medium tank? Hell to the fuck no. Nice flakey engine/transmission system, bitch. Can't win a fight you don't show up to WOOP WOOP
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GATE 33 WHEN
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>>101973332

Anybody will fight like a mad sumbitch if you kick in their front door and jump on their couch. Except the French, sometimes, depending on where in France you go. Parisan french seem like "eh who gives le fuk" and then you go into the countryside and you find these terrifying swarthy motherfuckers who're like SACRE BLEU MOTHERFUCKERS and wear crazy berets and generally go innawoodz and beat bears to death with their dicks.
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>>101972927
'Sader tonk
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>>101973898

Am I the only one who doesn't like Gate much?

It could have been so good. So good. But then it tries to have shit both ways, tries to mix in LEL HAREM AN-AY-MOO with LOL RAEP GRIMDERP HERP DERP and I'm like, listen, bro, I know mood whiplash, I've done mood whiplash, you don't know how to weaponize mood whiplash worth a damn.

There are moments of brilliance though; pic related. Or that fucking hilarious moment when all three black ops operators run into each other at the same spot and share that one long moment of DOODWTF
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>>101973296
>the Sherman was sloped

Later variants lost some sloping, thus decreasing the effective thickness.

>to hell and gone

Yeah, that's about where the thing was guaranteed to end up.

>It had spacious crew accommodation

It certainly should have with such a ridonkulous high target profile.

>which improved combat efficiency

You're not very combat efficient when you're splattered all over that oh-so-spacious interior.

>excellent optics

laughing wehrmachts.jpg

>pistol-ports

Making weak points in armor that was already notorious for being woefully inadequate.

>it was quick and handled well.

Speed and handling were par for the course for a tank of its class.

>Even had a god-damned gyrostabilizer

Too bad the crews weren't familiar enough with the feature to make effective use of it; the US military was *that* poorly trained.

>the "good enough to blow up infantry or halftracks or sweet christ what useless shit are they sending at us now is that a truck with a cannon on it, are they even trying or are they out of real fucking tanks now" gun

Because the Germans will undoubtedly impose the same asinine limitations on their armor doctrine as we do ours.

>or the "okay we can do that fuck your shit have some high-velocity 76mm" gun

"Ordnance told me this 76mm would take care of anything the Germans had. Now I find you can’t knock out a damn thing with it." - Gen. Dwight Eisenhower

>the "its a medium tank" tank

Panther is underwhelmed.

>or the "okay fuck it babby Tiger weld twice the armor on and call it the JUMBO and we're good" tank

More ground pressure, lower power/weight ratio, worse mobility and it STILL won't stand against a Panther. Also, enjoy your mantlet shot trap.

>The only real disadvantage was it couldn't turn in place.

That was hardly the ONLY disadvantage.

>It had a good suspension system

British tanks had better suspension because they had the sense to work out the shortcomings themselves.
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>>101973675
You are not dealing with it, Anon. Stop making excuses.
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>>101973929
>Anybody will fight like a mad sumbitch if you kick in their front door and jump on their couch

See, the thing is, I highly doubt that.
Look at countries like Sweden, and tell me they would fight and die for their homeland. I'm just not seeing it, anon.
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>>101958322
I fucking hated that doujin.
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>>101974567
>Later variants lost some sloping, thus decreasing the effective thickness.

Really? Generally it only got better with later variants. For serious, go compare the armor thickness and slopes across different areas for the M4A1, M4A3 and the E8. M4A1 and 3 had some odd armoring priorities; the E8 was generally much better protected because of design changes made through battlefield experience. M4A1 and 3 were good for the years/months they were produced in, but a lot of them ended up in Normandy after their armor design had been surpassed by the E8s.

>It certainly should have with such a ridonkulous high target profile.

Just like the Tiger amirite

but no seriously this slavshit EVERY TONK MUST BE LOW-RIDER thing is doctrinal differences; if you're fighting on the steppes (like russians) or expect to be the mobile attacker in a Western European land-war invasion (COUGH SOVIETS COUGH) then you go 2low. If you expect to be fighting in Western Europe and ESPECIALLY a defensive war in Western Europe, the ability to hull the fuck down is a big deal (pic related.)

Nice negative gun depression bro durr hurr

>Making weak points in armor that was already notorious for being woefully inadequate.

Which counts for diddly shit when das ubertonk is taken out by a fucking $2 bottle of gasoline with a pinch of detergent and a fireplace match. (But seriously in some production runs of the Sherman they actually welded the pistol port over because MUHWEAKPOINTS. I think it was pointless because it was on the rear of the turret which isn't going to repulse a proper tank gun on any tank anyhow.)

>Speed and handling were par for the course for a tank of its class.

'fair nuff

>Too bad the crews weren't familiar enough with the feature to make effective use of it; the US military was *that* poorly trained.

Unless you're talking Africa 1943 then [citation needed]
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>>101973929
That goes for countries that are proud and have a "national spirit."

I wouldn't expect my countrymen to fight to the death.
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>>101975607
Anon still not dealing with Sherman being hopelessly outclassed by about every fucking tank built after 1941
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>>101974567
>Because the Germans will undoubtedly impose the same asinine limitations on their armor doctrine as we do ours.

All that "tank destroyer doctrine" bullshit is just, well, bullshit. We ditched that shit in 1942. I mean go look at a fucking Hellcat. Same 76mm gun, got a turret and everything, just paper-thin armor. Its basically a light tank. Functional differences to the M24 Chaffee? Um. Yeah.

And the M10 was just a Sherman with a big-ass gun turret, basically. Whatev. Germans actually made, you know, actual tank destroyers; no turret, fuckoff huge gun and armor.

>'Murricans whining about their stuff being shit and DAS UBERWEAPONZ being 2stronk

I could make a whole post about this. Generally the weapons Americans cried like little wussy bitches about were found to be just fucking fine by other nations. Brewster Buffalo has been put in several WORST FIGHTER PLANE EVAR books, but the Finns raped the Russians raw with it and they still call it the "pearl of the northern skies." 'Murricans disliked the P-39 and the Russians loved them so much they got Bell to make an upgraded version for them. Same with the lend-lease Shermans, in fact. Go to lend-lease.ru and read up, its some fascinating shit. tl;dr 'murricans cry liek babby

>More ground pressure, lower power/weight ratio, worse mobility

Unless you're trying to tow shit with the tank who cares as long as power/weight is good enough to move the tank over negotiable obstacles?

Oh, right, the military without dedicated tank recovery vehicles because lolgermanlogistics

>British tanks had better suspension because they had the sense to work out the shortcomings themselves.

lol wot. details?
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>>101975957
The Germans may have had better tanks, but we had more of ours. Sometimes, it's quantity over quality, especially when you're fighting a world war.
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>>101975957

The fuck are you doing? Don't you see this guy >>101974567 ? That's how to fucking counter-troll, bro. I don't blame you for the obligatory hook in the water first time 'round but with this guy bringing the noise you need to step up a bit or get out of the goddamn ring, y'know?
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>>101976182
The question wasn't "which tank won WWII". (Which incidentally is a tie-up betwen Sherman and T-34, one in each front). It was "which tank was the best of WWII". And it wasn't the Sherman, as there are a lot of better tanks than it (basically, >>101975957).
Deal with it.
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>>101975957
>outclassed
Yes, a stalker outclasses a zergling, but that doesn't matter when the Protoss are out of gas and the Zerg have plenty of larvae.
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>>101976280
Go to bed, it's late
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>>101976182

That's just what the krauts tell themselves. "Ach, das uberweapons were so magical they smote our enemies with lightning bolts of awesome! But alas, rich 'Murricans just buried us by spawning zerglings!"

They're half-right; German mass-production was a shit-show and was largely responsible for them producing fuck-all in number of tanks. Hitler being a meddling cunt didn't help.
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Excuse me for interrupting the 17863541th Sherman argument in a row, but, does someone have a larger version of pic related? (It was originally released as an A3 poster). I need it because of reasons.
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>>101976444
Aaaaaand I hit "submit" instead of "browse".
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>>101976326
My original question was "Which tank was the sexiest."
Deal with it
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>>101976524
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>>101973296
>Well, because it was the best medium tank of the goddamn war
If you samefaged both posts, actually I feel bad for you.
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>>101976600
No need to feel bad for me
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>>101976524
>sexiest
Why do you ask questions that are already answered?
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>>101976661
Good, Anon. Good.
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>>101976708
To start a discussion
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>>101976326
>A lot of better tanks

Like which ones? Seriously the only contender I can think of is the Panther. Just checking wikpedia here:

>Panther power/weight: 13.77 hp/ton
>Sherman (Early war): 13.5hp/ton
>Sherman (Late War): 15.7hp/ton

Ground pressure: How important? Just switching out tracks on the Sherman fixed that nicely; and until then they just put "duck-bill" rubber thangs on the tracks. On the other hand have fun when those catch on fire, bitch. Then there's general track/motive system durability. Getting tracked is bad. Torsion bar (Panther) suspension versus super special snowflake suspension on the Sherman - good? Bad? No real difference? All-or-nothing front armor best armor doctrine, or more rounded protection? Which was better?

Now that's where the Panther vs. Sherman debate gets interesting, but I can't think of any other medium tank that's even within shouting distance of that debate, by the numbers.

Well, the T-34 I guess, but I'm fine with the T-34 sucking in some respects because it actually WAS designed to be a cheap and dirty zergrush tank that was "good enough."
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>>101976444
>the 17863541th Sherman argument

I thought the only two people on the goddamn site who defended the sherman were me and Shermanator on /k/.

Wild.
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>>101975607
>Really?

Yes, really. Something about reworking the glacis to remove some design-based armor weakness resulted in a reduction in sloping on later variants.

>Just like the Tiger amirite

Tiger had considerably more armor.

>ESPECIALLY a defensive war in Western Europe

They say the best defense is a good offense. If that's the kind of defensive war you're talking about, you're still doing it wrong.

>das ubertonk is taken out by a fucking $2 bottle of gasoline with a pinch of detergent and a fireplace match

Too bad that never occurred to the Murricans.

>>101976053
>We ditched that shit in 1942

lol NOPE

>Generally the weapons Americans cried like little wussy bitches about were found to be just fucking fine by other nations

Lots of those other nations didn't have anything better or the industrial capacity to manufacture better in great enough numbers.

>as long as power/weight is good enough to move the tank over negotiable obstacles

Lower power/weight ratio tends to reduce negotiability of obstacles. Also, placing more stress on the engine generally has a negative impact on mechanical reliability. Vehicle recovery generally isn't done where an engagement is ongoing.
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>>101974559
I've never read Gate.

Does it have elf rape?

I can stand anything, harem, muh nippon, muh JSDF, but I can't stand elf rape.
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>>101977570
>1776 + 238
>Not liking elf rape.
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>>101977229
>Yes, really. Something about reworking the glacis to remove some design-based armor weakness resulted in a reduction in sloping on later variants.

Huh. Was that reduction in slope counteracted by an increase in armor thickness, or something? Hmm.

You know, I really hate that 99.99% of reference books don't give you the shit you actually want to know, like, say, the actual thickness and slope angle of every major armored section on the tank. Same for plane books. What was the drag co-efficient, asshole? Who fucking cares what the range was, everybody knows that, go kill yourselves!

Ahem. Anyhow.

>Tiger had considerably more armor.

I think its profile height was mostly determined by its gun; actually. It just needed room in that turret to house and load it; increasing vulnerability, demanding heavier armor to ensure proper protection, etc. A lack of sloped armor on the Tiger isn't really an issue (its great for trolling on /k/, however,) because, shit, look at the size/shape of it. Flat plates made more sense because it had the engine oomph to carry it, and because of how the geometry works out, it got more protection with a shit-ton of flat plates then it would've had with thinner angled plates.

>They say the best defense is a good offense. If that's the kind of defensive war you're talking about, you're still doing it wrong.

That's just referencing Cold-War era doctrine. Hell, post-Cold-War era doctrine. Russkies STILL build low-profile tonks and 'Murricans still build 'em high, wide and handsome. Its a doctrinal difference, not a flat-out LOW TANK BEST TANK thing.

>Too bad that never occurred to the Murricans.

Nah we could afford to give our soldiers real weapons, like the Bazooka, which was so effective the Germans immediately copied the idea. (And copied it better by making it 88mm which remained effective throughout the war. Which we'd copy with the Super Bazooka, but only in time for Korea.)

(Also panzerfaust > rifle grenades.)
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>>101977699
I'm not going to start a knight battle here, but I'll say that it's really awful and I get really upset when I see it.
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>Lower power/weight ratio tends to reduce negotiability of obstacles. Also, placing more stress on the engine generally has a negative impact on mechanical reliability. Vehicle recovery generally isn't done where an engagement is ongoing.

Right. A bigger tank's more likely to get hung up on pokey obstacles, though. But was the Panzer really *that* much bigger it made a difference? Hmm. Power/weight was close enough that I'd call it no big; ground pressure is where the Panther shines methinks. Wonder how much traction they got, compared to each other? Guess that'd come down to tread and suspension design differences.

Which isn't really covered in detail on wikipedia. God dammit I've got to go buy more books again. Dammit anon. Dammit. Dammit. DAMMIT. Gonna make me poor again.

Unless you know all about that and could tell me about it now.

Just a thought. Yeah.
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>>101977872
Alright. That's cool, but I'm just gonna leave this image here and see what things you start to think about.
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What is the most gun/weapon fetishizing anime?

No, not like Upotte, I want intricately drawn, researched, and glorified shootbangs.
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>>101977765
>Nah we could afford to give our soldiers real weapons,

Which lack adequate firepower.

>like the Bazooka

Which is useless when you don't even bother to train your washouts on how to actually use it!

>which was so effective the Germans immediately copied the idea

After reverse-engineering it. Guess how they got a hold of examples.
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>>101978026
Love and cuddles.
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>>101977872
>somebody not liking what I like
>I can understand this

Yeah bro, take it from a guy who faps to elf rape on the regular; it has rape and murder and shit in it, and its in there just for the fucking 2EDGY factor. Even I, the horrible elf rape fetishist, is bored and disgusted by it.

I mean there's literally a part where the prince of EMPIRE EVIL is like LOL U ARE MY RAEP SLAEV MISS BUNNY GIRL, QUEEN OF THE BUNNY PEOPLE and then he turns around and he's like "lol i make her raep slave for years but I wasted all her bunny people anyway and never told her toplol" and its just

fucking

pointless

Like half the murder/sexual violence in the damn manga

And then it thinks it can turn around and be all cutesy and shit sometimes and no, sorry, you really suck at it, go to hell. You just can't go ten pages without some elf chick going "IF I CAN'T CONVINCE THEM WITH WORDS I'LL CONVINCE THEM WITH MUH BODAY" and

don't read it.
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I'm watching the Upotte dub for some reason

Its pretty bad, but entertaining

I laughed when they changed lines to

"My stomach's pretty weak?"
"Yeah, just like your Constitution"

And I wish they translate names to "Sixteen" or "Eighteen" instead of Ichiroku/hachi
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>>101978113
>Which is useless when you don't even bother to train your washouts on how to actually use it!

Totally serious here and no trolling, level with me: Are you serious about that? And if you are, elucidate further, give examples, evidence, etc. Because this is the first I've heard about US military training during WWII being bad.

>After reverse-engineering it.

Naw brah these are Germans, okay? Say what you will about them but they're smart about machines. The Bazooka is literally just a tin fucking tube to aim a fin-stabilized rocket. Their soldiers were like THEY PUT A FINNED ROCKET IN A TUBE and the krauts were like "fuck yeah we can do that and lets make it bigger for more kill!"

Seriously, Germans. They know how to make fucking rockets. They fucking LOVE rockets. They didn't reverse-engineer shit, they just cranked those bitches out.
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>>101978263
>hachi

That means 8 though. 18 is Juuhachi
Are you trying to fuck with me here, anon?
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>>101978026

I liek the elf raep but my shields can't repel cute of that magnitude, sorry. That picture just makes me want to wrap myself up in a comfy towel and pet a kitty.
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>>101978429
>They fucking LOVE rockets

>tfw stray Nebelwerfer rocket decapitating Lady Liberty in Hearts of iron 3
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>>101978250
O-oh.
Sounds pretty bad.

I guess I won't read it then.

I just wanted a manga with cute elf girls doing cute things and not being molested.
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>>101978059
The manga of Gunsmith Cats, and to a lesser extent, the 3 part OVA.
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>>101978440
Ichiroku/hachi
As in Ichiroku/Ichihachi
16 and 18 respectively.

In the anime they said then like "One six" and "One eight" instead of "Sixteen" and "Eighteen"

And in the dub, I think it'd be better to translate it and use "Sixteen" and "Eighteen"
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>>101978649
Oh
Now I feel dumb
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>>101978679
Nah, it's cool

Dub is fun, however
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>>101978429
>bigger for more kill!

dem krautboyz are downrite orky
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>>101978751
>Dub is fun, however

Fun, as in "so awful it's great" or as in legitimately great?
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>>101978490
Apparently I shouldn't have stopped at the first high quality elf picture I found. I should have held out for a sinful body like this one.
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>>101978821
Still love and cuddles.

I simply don't have the desire for elf rape like most /a/nons do, I guess.
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>>101978799
Fun as in "Upotte is terrible but fun", I would assume.
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>>101978799
I think more "so awful it's great"

The VA work isn't astounding, but they sound like believable high school girls.

I don't think it's that terrible, but I might be giving it more credit than it's with because I really like the show
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>>101978760

Pretty fucking much. I like Germans for that; they're not like Russians who're in dick-measuring mode from the word Go (FUCK IT WE'RE GOING TO FIVE BLA- I MEAN TURRETS), they start a war with these lovely little well-engineered super-efficient 37mm stuff because they have SKILL and DAS ENGINEERING and stuff.

But when Russkies or whoever cockslap them with a KV-1 or something they roll up their fucking sleeves, look'em in the eye and say "bitch, PLEASE." Then you get L-5 railway guns, you get Tiger tanks, you get MOTHER-FUCKING MAUS BLUEPRINTS, you get V-3 SUPERGUNZ that can hit France clear from Germany (and lets not forget the Paris Gun.)

When it comes to escalation, they don't start shit, but they'll finish it, bitch.
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>>101978429
Yes, I am quite serious. Read up on the history of the bazooka; GIs in the North African campaign got captured along with their fancy new shoulder-fired anti-armor rocket weapon because they didn't know how to use them. Also, look up George C. Marshall and read about the US military buildup and the "individual replacement system" in World War II. Did a bigger number on the US military than Axis forces ever did.
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>>101978868

A proper escalation attempt, but unfortunately I could go "love'n'cuddles" just as easily as "rapetime" with that one. One of my most common fantasies/preference in doujin plots is one where some elf-chick with RAPE BAIT plastered on her head in flashing neon encounters some big hulking human soldier... who then proceeds to treat her like a lady because he's a good man with good impulse control, his raging boner be damned. And that makes the elf-girl start crushing on him fucking hardcore because he RESPECTED her and he's a nice guy, etc.

Especially if the picture has the elf in skimpy clothing obviously designed to be "sexy," like those stupid fucking string bikinis every other artist seems to adore so much. Rape is about transgressing boundaries, about ripping clothes OFF, for christ sake. Or maybe I'm just naturally contrary and love subversion of expected direction, I dunno.
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>>101979262
I just like girls being happy. Specially if they have pointy ears.
I get a bigger boner if I see a girl smiling and blushing and liking it than if I see a girl crying and struggling and hating it.

Happy girls touch this part on my heart that makes blood pump like crazy to my dick I guess. Specially if it's elves.
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>>101979396
You're not required to force yourself on elves. You can treat them well if you wish.

They just have no right to refuse
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>>101979145
>GIs in the North African campaign

CALLED IT!

See my post upthread: >>101972974 When I said the US went to war with a conscript army I wasn't fucking joking, man. US forces had their assholes kicked up between their shoulderblades by Rommel and it forced them to sit down, put their thinking caps on, and seriously unfuck their shit: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Kasserine_Pass#Allied_analysis

Training? TRAINING? Try divisional-level organization, even! Their shit was totally fucked and it wasn't until Rommel's boot was planted up their ass that it got unfucked. But it did get unfucked, by the time the US entered Italy, things were much better and by the time they hit the Normandy beaches it was fine.

By contrast other nations (like Germany and Japan) trained their armies incessantly into fucking excellent, crack troops, but proved woefully unable to adapt training regimens to keep producing decent troops throughout the war (especially combat pilots.) The US was much, much better at that.

> Also, look up George C. Marshall and read about the US military buildup and the "individual replacement system" in World War II.

No arguments on that one, that WAS a clusterfuck and a half.
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>>101979545
This is what I hate about you guys though.

Stop trying to ruin my fantasties. I don't try to ruin yours.
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>>101979396
>that picture

... actually gave me warm fuzzies. Actual, tangible warmth in my chest.

And a boner. I didn't even know that was possible.
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>>101979667
Agreeing with you is ruining your fantasy?

Okay, fuck you then. Elves are shit and deserve to die.
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>>101979610
>Japan trained their armies incessantly into fucking excellent, crack troops
That managed to get more soldiers killed in an engagement with the Soviets, yes.
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>>101979797
That wasn't what I meant.
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>>101972927
Looks like the jew upgun version there though!
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>>101976708
Still prefer the Panther!
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Post elves with guns.
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>>101979545

Imagine that. You're Prince DandyDick and you run this shit. There's this fucking adorable elf-maid who cleans stuff up in your wing of the castle and you love the fucking hell out of her. But she's a slave; (aside from the fact that you could outright rape any commoner and get away with it because RIGHT OF KINGS, etc.) so she lives in constant fear that you're just toying with her and you'll ditch her the instant some prettier, hotter, better-in-the-sack slave comes along and she'll be tossed into the trash like a used dishrag, put on an auction block in chains while the owner of the RapeWolf Breeding Kennels keeps topping the high bid while staring at her intently.

So she's terrified and is always trying to please you to a pathetic degree, which is cute on the surface but just fucking kills you inside because you know your relationship is poisoned. You don't know how to prove to her that YES, I CHECKED MY PRIVILEGE AT THE DOOR GOD DAMMIT and you can't really improve her situation because it'd be political suicide even for a prince to openly declare THIS SUBHUMAN ELF CHICK IS MAI WAIFU Y'ALLS CAN PISS OFF.

Unless, you know, you're willing to fight lethal blood duels and/or open war with pissy neighboring kingdoms just to make things copacetic between you and your slave-girl waifu.

Can you really justify risking the lives of everyone in your kingdom just for one slave-girl? Or is it okay the way it is; she's happy, you dote on her, even if her utter devotion and servitude is in part because she's terrified of the consequences of "forgetting her place."

Well?
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Know-it-all /k/ommando here, to answer any of /a/'s weapon's related questions.

I don't really know everything, but I'll give it a shot.

Tsurara Shirayuki is /k/ as fuck.
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>>101971679
Y-you too?
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>>101980267
Is that a famas?
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SAKO's granma is kind of a big deal.
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>>101980267
What's the best Bronze Age sword?
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Anyone interested in another patches project? I wanted to make some Madoka patches a while ago, but I never really picked it back up.
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>>101979875

They had wonderfully disciplined troops, but all the SAMURAI FIGHTING SPIRIT in the world doesn't mean diddly shit when the Reds just roll over your fucking face with tanks.

Because you don't have any tanks.

Or anti-tank guns.

Or anything but rifles designed to work as spears in a pinch.

Battle of Kalkhin Gol, man. Jesus the Japs got powerfucked worse then PL in B-R, seriously. Still makes me laugh just thinking about it. Japanese officers leading banzai charges against tanks. Hooo-booy.

If you can't take the RUSSIANS in 1939 then you know you dun goof'd.
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>>101980267
Why hasn't a semi auto Microgun been made yet?
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>>101980187
I don't think you fully understand how much I fucking obsess over elves.
I'd give away my kingdom for my elf waifu anon.

An elf waifu, an elf waifu, my kingdom for an elf waifu.
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>>101980267
I'm thinking about a concealed carry pistol for self defence. I like the concept of a .357 under-barrel but how practical would this be in reality?
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>>101980482
This is /ak/ so teach you're elf waifu to shoot.
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>>101980360

I do threads like that on /v/ occasionally (/k/ommando will answer questions ITT) and I have a directory specifically for counter-troll images just for the bevy of replies like these.
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>>101980360
Deagle brand deagle, noob.

>>101980382
>best

>>101980453
Complexity. The machine would literally spin up, then have to brake before the next round was ready to fire. The wear and tear on the machine, plus the nightmare of getting it approved for sale, would pretty much doom any project.

HOWEVER, for the low price of $45,000, you can have a true-to-spec Gatling gun in 45-70 christthisthinghurts. If you have to turn a crank, it doesn't count as a machinegun in the states.

>>101980504
You mean like a Rihno? Expensive, only got 6 rounds, and while the muzzle isn't prone to flip like traditional revolvers, all that recoil is now going directly into the palm of your hands, which will take a lot of practice to get used to. .357 is kind of expensive to shoot. I recommend a 9mm automatic, or if you're deadest on a revolver, a .357 loaded with 38 +P's.
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>>101980504

Extremely fucking practical. Revolvers are fantastic CCW guns. Automatics can jam in many different ways and you need to practice clearing malfunctions with them. Revolvers, on the other hand, are extremely hard to fuck up. You can fire them through a jacket pocket without worry, you can press them against someone without worrying about putting the slide out-of-battery (preventing you from firing,) and so forth. The just fucking work.

And an under-barrel is even better, it puts the recoil force directly in line with your hand, making it much easier to control recoil and muzzle-flip. You must be looking at a Chippewa Rhino, right? Neat guns.

Also you can shoot .38 special out of .357s for cheap target practice or plinking.
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>>101980482

That's really the only answer, anon. You get that hot pseudo-slave submissive Elf Sex in the beginning, and then that wonderful cathartics when the studly protagonist murderizes like sixty fucking dudes so he can marry his elf waifu and fuck her on the tallest tower of the castle while flipping the whole fucking world the bird.

Fantasies: never settle for just one.
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>>101980794
>Automatics can jam in many different ways and you need to practice clearing malfunctions with them.
Go tell that to my S&W 59. I have yet to find a (proper) loading that will jam or dirty my gun beyond serviceability. Better yet, go tell that to a Glock.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8CvK70t1sjk

Revolvers are just fine, but there is nothing wrong with an automatic.
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>>101980267
Assuming I could find one, would a Mateba be worth carrying?
Not just as a collecter item.
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>>101980986
jello shouldn't be a problem for any gun really. it's too soft on its own to resist any moving parts. however the jello can collect dirt and grime that will lead to malfuctions.
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Damn straight. I carry a 1911, I can tell you all about malfs in automatics. But I know what I'm doing and I go and try out different ammo and buy decent magazines and practice my malf drills so wtf ever, I'm ready to rock. If you're someone who thinks they'll never, ever, ever find the time or discipline to bother with that shit, though, then a revolver is great because you simply can't fuck that up without making a special effort; especially with a concealed hammer.

6 rounds is most likely all you need, sure. You probably won't need a full-sized combat pistol for OPERATING OPERATIONALLY. But if you know how to use one, and can carry it comfortably, then why the fuck NOT?
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>>101980746
>>101980794
I'm sort of set on .357 because it's the largest round I can be consistently accurate with and if I'm in a self-defence situation I want to shoot to kill because that makes me the safest on the street as well as in the court room.
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>>101981129
>Carrying a Mateba

If you don't mind carrying a fucking huge revolver around, well... yeah. An auto-revolver that fires from the bottom cylinder? It shoots just fine.

I'd leave it at home, though. In its own wood-paneled box in the safe. And take it out sometimes and just purr over it.
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Mateba's are infamous for being expensive, troublesome, and not having any real advantage over a traditional revolver, especially now that the Rhino is available. Remember as well, when you go and shoot Bo'nigwa because he tried to kill you, your gun is going to be most likely seized by the police for some time. Police don't treat any gun very well, and you will get it back with lots of scratches you don't quite remember being there. If you're going to carry, carry something that you won't mind getting beat up a little.

However, for a collectors item, a Mateba is pretty damn cool.

>>101981284
If it's what you're comfortable with, then absolutely go for it. Pack Hornady rounds, I find they're the best for self defense.
>tfw Sandy Vagina took away all my Z-Max.
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>>101981284
.357 will do just fine for that. See, .38 Special was the go-to caliber for every police revolver ever back in the 30s, but then gangsta's started making silk-panel bulletproof vests and shit (silk = nature's kevlar weave) so the popo call up S&W and say HEY YO WE NEED MORE BULLET! So S&W take the .38 caliber brass case, and just pack a fuckton more gunpowder in it and call it good. That's .357. The only difference is that they made .357 casings a wee bit longer so people wouldn't shove them into .38 revolvers and blow their stupid fucking hands off.

Because revolver cylinders don't care how long a cartridge is (as long as it fits) you can stick .38 rounds in a .357 and shoot just fine. And .38 +P or +P+ (that means cartridges with extra powder loaded in them, more then normal) get pretty close to .357 performance anyhow.

So you can buy a .357 and carry .357 for protection and load .38 when you're killing cans.
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>>101981373
>Mateba's are infamous for being expensive, troublesome

They're finicky!? Didn't know that. That's eye-talians for you; if there's a way to fuck up something mechanical they'll find it.
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>All these people advocating for 6 shooters and even a fucking 1911
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>>101981669

Talk some shit about the 1911.

Go ahead. I dare ya.

I double-dog dare ya.
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>>101981489
That's what I do already. Do you have any advice about balancing out shooting practice with .38 for accuracy and .357 for dealing with the recoil?
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>>101981489
>but then gangsta's started making silk-panel bulletproof vests and shit
Don't forget the Army finding out that coked-up natives need a little more STOPPAN POWAH.

>>101981669
>not liking 6 shooters and 1911s.

>>101981834
Shoot more.
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>>101981817
>.45 ACP
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>>101981834

Frankly, just buy some +P+ or some .357, whatever's cheaper, and kill a box of 50 every now and then. Accuracy is most important; the only thing that changes with more recoil is how fast you can re-acquire the target and fire. Putting high-recoil rounds downrange every now and then to keep yourself familiar is all you need do.

Practically speaking, at the ranges most self-defense shootings take place it really doesn't matter, but better safe then sorry.
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>>101980267
Stupid question incoming.

If you fired a round straight up into the air, and waited, would you be hurt when it came back down again? I know wind and other things would make this impossible in real life, but I'm just asking hypothetically.

Similarly, what happens to errant missiles and torpedoes? Do they eventually run out of steam and sink/fall to earth? What would the chances of be of one falling on someone's house, or running into an ocean liner?

It's shit like this that keeps me up at night.
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>>101981373
Why did /k/ lose it's appeal? I found it in 2009 and lurked nearly everyday until a little after the time the recent "big" shootings started, but now I don't even go there anymore.
I feel like everyone went from being "nogunz" to literally having no guns.
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Did Soviet Bloc nations have suppressed weapons? If so, which nations?
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>>101982164
I doubt that a bullet going at terminal velocity is going to give you more than a nasty welt, or maybe break the skin a little.
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>>101982240
Sorry, that was directed at >>101980267.
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>>101982190
It's not my fault my country has shit gun laws anon.
You think I wouldn't love to hold a sweet, beautiful AK in my arms and cuddle with it and clean it every day and shower it in kisses?

All I get are shitty bolt action .22 with 5 round mags.
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>>101981165
>I carry a 1911, I can tell you all about malfs in automatics

Really? I thought those were supposed to be reliable.
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>>101982282
Spice it up with a lever action .22 with a 10 round tube mag.
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>>101982352
Illegal. Stop actively trying to kill my babies, cis scum.


Even though fucking criminals have access to better guns than the goddamn military.
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>>101982164
>>101982267

It'll hurt whatever it hits, but no idea where it'll go. It will eventually come to the ground, and it is absolutely still deadly. This one was done by a muzzle loader, for christs sake.

http://content.usatoday.com/communities/ondeadline/post/2011/12/amish-teens-death-ruled-a-homcide-in-ohio/1

Those torpedos and missiles eventually will stop running and sink/fall, but whether it hits an object is entirely up to where it was fired from.

>>101982190
Trust me, a lot of us are pissed at that too. Late, late night seems to be alright for actual guns, and mornings are better to talk about equipment, but afternoons suck ass. Of course, /pol/ doesn't help either.

I have faith it'll come back, but when and how is kind of up in the air.

>>101982240
Absolutely. In addition to dedicated weapons platforms (VSS), they stuck suppressors on EVERYTHING they could--AK's, Mak's, even Nagant revolvers.

>>101982347
The problem with 1911's is that they weren't designed with today's ammo in mind, and few are made to original spec. Remember, it was made to be reliable, not terribly accurate, so when you tighten up tolerances you lose that "pack it with dirt and sand and still fire."
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>>101982434
You neglected to mention which nations.
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>>101982488
Appologies, I should have mentioned-- Russia tended to lead the development of supressed weapons, while satellites cranked out their AK's (or in Czechoslovakia's case, VZ's).
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>>101982430
I'm sorry for exercising my freedoms.

captcha: bacon mobile
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>>101982347

Yes and no. Abso-fucking-lutely everyone and their uncle makes a 1911 clone these days, and many of then have improved (or "improved") the original design quite a bit. If the company did it right, its great. If not, its shit. And then you have target pistols engineered for MUH GROUPS instead of loose-tolerance service pistols meant for muhreenz to go bangbang with.

I think the absolute biggest problem is magazines. The magazine is a crucial component of an automatic-loading handgun and a lot of people don't get this. The wrong magazine will totally fuckbugger a gun, if its shit, or just doesn't work with that gun very well. Rock Island Armory sells el cheapo 1911s very much like the original military ones - bare-bones, loose-tolerances, meant to go bang every time. They ship with cheap-ass ACT mags made in Italy. Once you replace that single factory magazine with a decent one (like a colt factory magazine, or metalform,) shit changes fast.

Compare to Glock. Only Glock makes Glocks. And if you want a magazine, you buy it... from Glock. (If you're smart.)
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>>101982434
I thought missiles self destructed if they lost guidance link for too long, run out of energy or are commanded to.
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>>101982699

They do - they've got a self-destruct timer so they kerblewie once enough time has passed after their motor has burnt out (i.e. if they haven't hit the target yet, they done missed.) Torpedoes, even WWII torpedoes, might also have self-destruct features, though lots of skippers probably left it off so missed shots didn't give away your presence to the enemy. But they'd just sink to the bottom and rust away peacefully anyhow; they don't float around like mines do.

As for bullets - could've sworn I saw this answered somewhere with Numbers. A bullet coming straight down at terminal velocity might crack someone's skull just because its heavy-ass lead and pointy (so pretty streamlined, less wind resistance) but won't kill 'em. Problem is, if the bullet DOESN'T go straight up-and-down, its a high-angle ballistic trajectory, like a cannon firing a shell. Its forward velocity it gained from the initial gunshot is still there, its just being pulled in a curve towards earth by gravity (if you fire it high enough,and fast enough, the curve will never actually hit the planet. That's called being in orbit.)

That's why shooting in the air is dangerous; the bullet almost never goes straight up or nearly straight up, so it always tends to come down with a good chunk of its gunpowder-gained velocity with it.
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Creativity Surge - Upotte edition:

Insert our little freunde into the upotte world (if it isn't already, this thing always surprises me), be sure to find a way to include the caseless ammo too
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>Even though fucking criminals have access to better guns than the goddamn military.

Well they're probably newer, that's for fucking sure.

Not that it matters; criminals don't buy ULTRABLACKASSAULTRIFFLES because you can't hide it in your waistband to hold up a 7-11.
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>>101982434
>This one was done by a muzzle loader, for christs sake.

That's probably the reason it was still deadly.
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>>101982430
>Even though fucking criminals have access to better guns than the goddamn military.

TJ was right; gun control only disarms those without criminal tendencies.
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>>101982434
>even Nagant revolvers

Why would they suppress those? Their firepower is pathetic enough without it!
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>>101983304

Because its one of the only revolvers you actually CAN silence. Revolvers usually have a gap between the cylinder and the barrel face; once the gas (generated by exploding gunpowder) escapes through that gap, it's done pushing the bullet. The Nagant had a nifty design where the bullets were fully "necked" (projectile buried completely inside a long brass cartridge) and as it was fired, the "neck" of the cartridge was shoved forward into the barrel, creating a seal. Thus the gas kept pushing the bullet all down the length of the barrel, granting the Nagant extra power.

It also meant a silencer on the end of the barrel could slow down that expanding gas as it escaped to keep it from making a fuckton of noise; unlike regular revolvers where the gas escapes around the cylinder, in a place where you can't really attach any baffles or anything.
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>>101983487
It makes me wonder, has someone ever made a barrel so long it actually boats the maximum muzzle velocity with standard propellant
I mean, certainly after a point a longer barrel would decrease velocity, but what about spot, how long would it be? and more interestingly, how would the gases behave?
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>>101983665

Actually, yes! A barrel only needs to be oh-so long for any given cartridge. There's some advantage to having a barrel longer then the expanding gasses can make use of, but not so much that its a big deal.

The exact numbers and such vary by cartridge and loading; you'd have to google around and look up Tables And Numbers and things. Not TOO hard to find, however.
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>>101983665
Would repeating shots have increasingly lower velocity because the gas from the last shot wouldn't have cleared the barrel yet?
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>>101983703
If it makes you feel better, it was designed by a Belgian.
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>>101984024
maybe if you wait just enough time when the gas starts compressing again it will actually pull the bullet forward
why didn't someone try this yet?
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speaking of bullets in terminal velocities, look what I've found
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celebratory_gunfire

>
Firearms expert Julian Hatcher studied falling bullets in the 1920s and calculated that .30 caliber rounds reach terminal velocities of 300 feet per second (90 m/s). A bullet traveling at only 200 feet per second (61 m/s) to 330 feet per second (100 m/s) can penetrate human skin.
>

And apparently they are indeed deadly.

>
A study by the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) found that 80% of celebratory gunfire-related injuries are to the head, feet, and shoulders. In Puerto Rico, about two people die and about 25 more are injured each year from celebratory gunfire on New Year's Eve, the CDC says. Between the years 1985 and 1992, doctors at the King/Drew Medical Center in Los Angeles, California, treated some 118 people for random falling-bullet injuries. Thirty-eight of them died. Kuwaitis celebrating in 1991 at the end of the Gulf War by firing weapons into the air caused 20 deaths from falling bullets.
>
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>>101984567
Hasn't anyone ever heard of blanks?!
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>>101984131
Because the minute changes do not have a appreciable affect on performance.
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>>101984675
but... for science
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>>101984050
I didn't care about how the revolver's reputation. It's what he(you?) said
>firepower is pathetic enough without it
That's only said by a video gamer or a "stoppan powah" armchair commando
Who else would think that it's stupid to suppress a revolver that was specifically designed to have a sealed chamber when firing, allowing it to be suppressed?
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>>101984661
>Blanks

What are you, some sort of fag?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJEO3rmefmI

Still not as trigger happy as Yemen.
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>>101983890
>45 ACP
>not 45 Long Colt
You don't even deserve the effort of googling a reaction pic of any anime showing the aforementioned caliber. Likely Triggun. Maybe Vash pointing and laughing.
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>>101984999
blanks... with rifle grenades
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>>101982267
>I doubt that a bullet going at terminal velocity is going to give you more than a nasty welt, or maybe break the skin a little.

Nope. It's gonna straight up kill you.
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>>101984913
To be fair, the 7.62x38N Nagant is incredibly anemic, even when compared with calibers of the era. It's closest counterpart is the .32 ACP, which is itself a laughable caliber. As a weapon for officers, and for its role as a suppressed firearm, it was just fine--IE, it wasn't going to be used except in rare cases. For serious use as a sidearm, it was greatly outdone by the Tokarev of 30 years later.
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>>101985251
So, if I toss a bullet from a place high enough it kills?
If I toss a bearing ball from a high place it kills?
BAN BALL BEARINGS
BAN ASSAULT SHOVELS
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>>101985088
I had an SKS with a grenade attachment once. Sold it for rent. Thanks, Obama!
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>>101983665

I dunno, let's ask Buntline.

There is indeed a limit where barrel length stops increasing velocity, but that length is such that normally you wouldn't want a barrel that long anyway because it's too awkward to handle.
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>>101985417
I had a BB gun
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>>101985402
Different story. Gravity will not get a ball bearing or a bullet going fast enough to kill. However, when shot out of a gun, it's plenty fast enough.
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>>101985402
>If I toss a bearing ball from a high place it kills?

Basically, yeah. That's also the operating principle with kinetic harpoons, and they fuck up the place like nukes with nothing but gravity on their side.
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>>101983147
No, but they do to rob banks.
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>>101985571
holy shit this gif has me in tears
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>>101982430
>better guns than the military
Oh, please tell me what those guns are, that are better than those the military have.
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>>101958961
My brother.
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>>101985047
>LONG COLT BEST COLT

I'm okay with this.
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>>101972634
>>101958290
I can't stop laughing
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>>101985560
do people even rob banks anymore?
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>>101985679
damn, your criminals are poor yo
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So, about them animes.
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>>101985047
My African American from another mother.
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>>101985784
>chicken wing
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>>101985816
Story: guy arrested after posting pictures with weapons on facebook
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>>101985799
>/ak/ on /k/ devolves into anime talk
>/ak/ on /a/ devolves into gun Q-and-A's
God damnit you guys, get your shit together.
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>>101985784
Yes, they are.

Euro crooks have the benefit of a fair share of old Combloc weapons (that are impossible for just one man to wear out) and ammo, and a largely disarmed civil populace. I mean, they still have a whole lot of old shitty pocketguns and "lost" army sidearms from all around the place, but Soviet milsurp will last for generations, especially if you only ever fire a couple of rounds through them every other year.
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>>101958108
If zombie apocalypse happens I'll gladly be saved by /k/.
I will cook for you with whatever I can find.
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>>101985799
the what now?
season 2 never
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>>101985917
you can't spell q&a without /a/
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>>101985898
Mad Thad's ghetto cousin?
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>>101985978
Funko don't play coy, you sill fuck you.
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>>101985973
>implying we'd let some random plebe do the cooking
There's... other ways... you could serve me.
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>>101986299
>implying I don't cook better than you
>implying I'm not cute
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>>101979025
>finishing it...
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>>101985917
That's because /a/ is a shit place to try to just talk about anime, and /k/ is a shit place to just talk about guns
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>>101986630
took three fronts and five years though
not to mention the rest of the world powers
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>>101975166
As a Swede, it's a bit of a vicious cycle, the state of the country makes me think it's not worth my time defending.
I'd rather be a glorious burgerclap.
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>>101985368
The actual service loads were pretty damn snappy. We didn't know this ourselves until a recent batch of 1946 vintage x38N that we realized actual Russian loads were hot as hell and the shit we'd been getting for our handnuggets was downloaded. I'd wager it hit's a little hard than .32ACP.
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>>101972927
still think the early single turreted T-26's are sexy as fuck, and up until late in the first year of the invasion of the soviet union was actually a decent fighting tank

>dat radio antennae
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>>101986968
>We didn't know this ourselves until a recent batch of 1946 vintage x38N that we realized actual Russian loads were hot as hell and the shit we'd been getting for our handnuggets was downloaded.
Wait, what? Lemme guess, nobody knew what it was until long after it was in-country, and any samplings of the batch are either lost in some hick's back 40 or stuck in a private collection.
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>>101986422
No, what are you implying? I want you to sew sexy dresses for my waifu. Don't be weird.
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>>101972392
>Gripen
DON'T BUY IT! IT'S OUTDATED GARBAGE WE BOUGHT AROUND THE COLD WAR THAT WE'RE NOW DESPERATELY TRYING TO HAWK TO OTHER COUNTRIES IN AN ATTEMPT AT CUTTING OUR LOSSES!
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>>101988913
Still better than the F-35.
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>>101980187
We... We could elope together, I could just disappear, and take her with me.

Me with a K98k, with the bayonet mounted, and a Browning Hi-Power in a shoulder holster, her with an M1 Carbine, fitted with a folding stock and 30 round magazines, and a Webley .455

I'd just escape with her in the night, give her guns and gear, and tell her that we're blowing this popsicle stand, we're going innawoods in two countries over.
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>>101989554

You leave F-35 alone! She didn't want any of this, she was forced into it by her parents!
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>>101985917
Except no one is bitching here.
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>>101978059
Gunslinger Girls has pretty good gun porn.
I remember a page where the artist even draw the barrel tilt that happens when a Glawk fires.
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>>101989973
It was either the first or second season that everyone calls shit though. I can't remember.
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>>101990017
2nd season (Il Teatrino) is more dramatic and less actiony than the first. The soundtrack for the 2nd season is a whole lot better than the 1st.
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>>101980633
sanae a shit
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>>101989640
>.30 Carbine

What a worthless cartridge.
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>>101991389
It's ain't that bad, the idea for the M1 carbine and it's cartridge was just ahead of it's time, so the idea wasn't fully developed.
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>>101990211
nice try buddy boy.
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>>101989640
yours is a love story for the ages anon...
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>>101983304
They certainly weren't .45ACP's or .30 Tokarev's, but original military loads of 7.62x38mm were about comparable to a .32 H&R Magnum.

For whatever reason, modern productions of 7.62x38mm are downloaded by a fair lot. Shame it's difficult to reload, and that the old military cartridges are rare as fuck now.
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>>101991499
I don't understand. I wasn't trolling.
Il Teatrino definitely goes into more emotional things than the first season.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0q-0EbqijDY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0oso71FX9A
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>>101980187
The romanticized elfs we see now are all rooted in Tolkien's stories like lord of the rings. And according to his lore, raping an elf is actually impossible.
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>>101991499
What are the perils of her doing that? I am legitimately curious here, so don't bully, please.
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>>101991984
>hating on glorious first season OP
I've only watched the first episode of Il Teatrino so I can't comment on the amount of drama compared to the first season
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hZlCAi6dKU
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>>101992096
She may shoot herself in the face.
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>>101992096
Lack of TD while pointing a loaded firearm at herself.
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>>101992049

You forget that the people who created their elves based off Tolkiens never took the time to read his lore. This is why most fantasy elves are mary sue, tree-hugging assholes.
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>>101992199
But how? Isn't the bullet that was supposed to be in the chamber stuck in the ejection port? Or is that supposed to be the casing for the round she just fired?
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>>101992183
The 2nd season's OST is still overall better than the 1st seasons.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40e2I0cjVPA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88lCO6ICfbA
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>>101992453
Its a basic tenet of firearm safety.
Always treat the gun as if its loaded, which means not pointing it at your face while the magazine is still in.
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>>101992261
The only semi-unknown thing about their lore I know (that I learned from one of these threads) is that they literally die of sorrow if they were to be raped, so please elaborate.
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>>101992453
Murphy's Law.
If something can go wrong it will go wrong, and you don't want something going wrong while point an lethal object at yourself.
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>>101992453
We don't know. And that's the problem. Even in the best case scenario it's promoting habits that make it more likely for you to shoot yourself in the face.
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>>101975541
was it factually inaccurate?
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>>101992536
Oh, yes, I understand that, but I mean, in a full retard situation, what would the danger in that be if there was no round in the chamber?
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>>101992534
Well, that's just like, your opinion dude.
Triela>Angelica>Rico>Claes>Henrietta
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>>101992561
That's about it, and the live for a really long time.
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>>101991389
>lol it faled da benetrate wintercoats my uncle told me
Dipshit, it has ballistics superior to a .357 Magnum, except it's rimless, so it can be doublestacked, and it's thin, so you can stack 30 of them and they don't take up a whole lot of space.

It's excellent as a light carbine cartridge and fucking retarded Marines thought it had the range of a battlerifle when using it in Korea.
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>>101992621
None. However, in that situation: what if the stovepiped brass fell out and chambered a live round? That's why you remove magazine and clear the gun before inspecting the insides of the barrel.
Not doing so is negligent and allow opportunities for easily preventable things: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WVoxUgF7VbU
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>>101992621
You don't absolutely know until you remove the magazine and rack the slide. It's always best to be on the safe side of things.
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>>101977570
Not elf, but close.
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>>101992682
You haven't even seen Il Teatrino, fag. You can't talk shit you casual.
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>>101980746
>.357 is kind of expensive to shoot
No it isn't?
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>>101992938
I've read the manga, that's good enough.
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>>101992561

Basically no one ever reads into Tolkien's lore, read's about the First Age, or even reads into elves much at all. Instead they just remember what they read about elves in the Hobbit and LOTR, and choose to base their own off what they remember.

The truth is that Tolkien's elves are far more "human" than anyone realizes. They are basically an extreme form of human, with far greater strengths and flaws in equal measure. Honestly it's pretty hard to describe, but you really understand the differences when you read the Silmarillion or about the First Age in general. I guess the biggest difference between Tolkien's elves and generic fantasy elves is that Tolkien actually put thought into his elves, everyone else just followed a cliche.
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>>101993109
>I've read the manga
We're talking about the OST, you stupid fuck
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>>101993004
Why wouldn't you just use .38 special for target practice?
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Why does /k/ like the SKS so much?
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>>101994493
I find it sexy as fuck.
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>>101994493
Can't go innawoods without it.
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>>101994493
Cheap, reliable, available ammo, built in bayonet.
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>>101994623
>>101958108
Buki Shoujo fucking when?
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>>101993113

The irony is that Tolkien wrote his elves as arrogant, vain assholes deliberately - they were MEANT to be flawed characters you disliked.

Then ten billion asswads latched onto his coat-tails and unironically wrote those same elves as if they were so awesome, because they totally missed the fucking point.
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>>101994691
Come to think of it, they did act like dicks in the hobbit and every movie adaption I've seen.
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>>101994662
Well their website no longer looks like shit, so I think that's a good sign.
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>>101994826
>DO NOT SCROLL
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>>101994826
I just hope they get a good artist. Specially for the lewd scenes. And by lewd-scenes I mean cleaning/maintenance ones, the one I read from the previews are bonerific. More so than the purposely lewd one.
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>>101995000
previews?
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>>101994924
meh, still an improvement.
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>>101995123
Add canadiancalabo to Skype. They recently did some feedback gathering.
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The seasons of Gunslinger are complimentary, with the first season featuring short arcs based on the various characters' origin stories and the second featuring more of that in addition to in depth exploration of a terrorist organization the girls go up against throughout both seasons. The second season is, if anything, more like the manga, because it was entirely written by the manga author. While the artwork suffers somewhat in the second season, the action sequences remain exceptional, especially the animation of ballistics, firearm cycling including shell ejection, and damage.
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>>101995360
Feedback as in writing or art?
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wtb next chapter of the gate
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>>101995590
Well, there were two shitty early doodles, but I liked the samples for the routes, though they could use a lot of grammar checking. Most of the 'art' was digital gun designs, some backgrounds for settings at the school and icons and logos.

I don't know if that's all they have for now, but if it is, dayum shame, it sucks and is not enough, overall. I heard something about a very early demo, but am too shy to ask in the group because no one ever says anything ;_;
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>>101995924
Huh, damn. Well it did take almost 5 years for KS to be made, so perhaps it just takes a while.
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Why can't we have a crossover anime/game/etc. between GuP, Strike Witches, KanColle/Arpeggio and Upotte? It would be like the Super Robot Wars of /ak/.
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>>101996249
WarThunder with a shitton of mods?
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>>101996039
I almost wonder if those guys will be willing to devote that much time for a VN.
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>>101996249
Why can't we have a TOPGUN anime by KyoAni?
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>>101958108
Every day is a day for kebab removal.
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>>101996386
It'd probably turn into Fujoshit
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>>101996584
exactly
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>>101994395
Oh, well, yeah, that, but you made out to be that .357 Magnum is somehow prohibitively expensive.

I think you can get a box of 25 for about 50 Crowns (about 3 or so dollars) in Sweden, and guns are expensive here.

Reasonably, it should even cheaper in the golden land where it's being made by the fuckload.
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>>101997505
It's more expensive in burger land because because of the demand. 3 bucks is an amazing price.
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>>101992096
A bit late to the party but if the casing stuck in the ejection port suddenly flies out and you have really shitty luck and a gun that has had shit maintenance then it may slamfire when it chambers a new round after the slide returns to the in battery position.
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>>101985368
>It's closest counterpart is the .32 ACP, which is itself a laughable caliber
>Kills Archduke Franz Ferdninand, kicking off WW1
>Kills Reichskanzler Adolf Hitler, ending WW2
>laughable
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>>101994493
Because of it's rugged simplicity, low price, availability, looks, and numerous variants. Pretty much the same reason the AK is liked, except damn cheap in comparison.
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So /ak/, what would be a good muzzle velocity for a railgun test bed?
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>>101998411
Is there any notable difference in accuracy?
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>>101998411
>Pretty much the same reason the AK is liked, except damn cheap in comparison.

You forgot to mention the gummint isn't quite so anal about them in comparison.
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>>101996311
We are willing.
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>>101994776
>>101994691
Na, Tolkein wrote them to be super special snowflakes. The asshole bit was fans taking that to its natural conclusion
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>>101999435
>hasn't even read the Hobbit

It's time for you to stop posting.
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>>101985537
Actually, it depends on how much mass the ball bearing has for its size and how much drag force & fluid density is counteracting the acceleration from it's getting from gravity.

Terminal velocity & all that.
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>>102003426
*that it's getting from gravity.
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>>101958108
>Daily reminder there will never be a S2 to Upotte!!
Daily reminder indeed. Obligatory pic.
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/k/ here. So glad this shit is contained on this board now. Keep your anime shit out of /k/.
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>>102003762
>he thinks he is a board
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>>101968352
The Gripen's designed for an airforce with a shoestring budget.
It's also designed for a country that just suffered direct nuclear strikes against all military installations and airports.
The engineers told me it's basically a flying T-34.
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>>102003762
You are no /k/iller, son.
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>>102003762
How many times do you newfags need to be told that anime has and will always be allowed on every board?

Thats not even my opinion, look at what fucking website your on.
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>oppai SMG
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>>102003516
Why do I bother living
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>>102007738
I'm confused, I thought the boobs were the magazines
Or was it their stomach
I'm confused
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>>102003762
>thinks he is /k/'s embodiment
Yeah, no. /a/ and /k/ are my homes, so you can fuck right off to /b/ then, fucktart.

Your probably a nogunz day/k/are babby.
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>>102009214
It's the general weight of the gun.
An L85 is quite heavy compared to a FNC, hence the difference in sizes.
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>>102009319
why does m16 have that orange in her hair?
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>>102010798
Orange you glad she has it?
Because orange exports, I think

Sig-chan? More like Sieg-Chan
Ok, enough already



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