What the hell is this whole gorilla with a guillotine in his stomach bullshit in episode 7? I liked where this series was going a lot, I liked how the MC was kind of idiotic and not exactly the strongest but still persevered for justice. I thought this was generally just going to be a normal MC going up against normal antagonists like drug dealers and petty thugs where he sometimes gets the shit kicked out of him. Why /a/? Why did they do this? Should I drop or does it get better?
It doesn't get better. The autists are coming to tell you that it will, but they are literally the embodiment of idiocy.
Drop it now /a/non for your own sake.
Will the train be able to do a triple somersault and land onto the oncoming traffic?
Will the train wreck be from beyond?
Stay tune for the wild ride.
You like gorillas? What about octopus? or maybe giant robots? or JUSTICE?
There are more turns on this ride than there are any right to be.
This is honestly the biggest let down a series has given me since Darker Than Black season 2.
Wait till you get to the rape scene.
>there are people on /a/ RIGHT NOW that dropped Samurai Flamenco yet still watch Kill la Kill
At least you're still at Flamenco.
Wait until you're forced to go BEYOND FLAMENCO
>Kill la Kill
Kill la Kill presented itself as a fun over the top action anime and has stayed that way. Samurai Flamenco presented itself as vigilante tries to become real superhero and turned into 'lel sentai'.
I can see why people stayed with Kill la Kill and dropped Samurai Flamenco.
Did you fail reading comprehension class at school?
Does OP like watching little girls get their fingers crushed by pliers?
What about watching lesbians make out while covered in vomit?
BEAMU BEAMU BEAMU
I stopped around episode 12, when does american patriotism start in? I thought they were japanese.
It's not just "lel sentai", it's an argument about justice. What is justice, anon?
It's Samurai Flamenco
Did you honestly expect it NOT to be a sentai when you saw the promotional art that came out for it?
I was just saying as in people who think its good in general.
Episode 15. Although i'm not sure Captain America is the best analogue. X-men might be better. Something with an evil government.
This nigger doesn't read Cap
>not liking gorilla warfare
>The Year of Our Lord Jesus Christ, Two Thousand and Fourteen
Episodes 8 through 14 are all shit, but it looks like it's finally getting good again, so if you can endure that much you should probably keep watching it.
>liking a plot device that ruins what the series has built in 6 episodes
yea ok s-sorry
I still think we have another arc after this one.
Can anyone predict the final turn?
It's not a plot device, it's an execution device.
Honestly it keeps getting worse, hitting rock bottom at the sentai arc.
Did he ever look in the wooden box his granddad left to him. The one he said he hadn't had time to but that guy said he should really look in as soon as possible?
I don't remember if he did or not, because the series goes all over the place.
But that I can understand. Kill la Kill knows what it is and is more attuned to tastes.
Samurai Flamenco doesn't know what the fuck it wants to be and ends up being a giant dump.
Nah, more like the entire 'prologue' arc was good, and every start and end episode of each 'arc' have been great as well, but with the inbetween episodes for them being meh, however the latest episodes have been great.
That was the most clever thing i've read all day
We are multitrack drifting now.
But /a/non it came back from the moon and is on the tracks again. There's no way it could launch back into space again.
Goto confirmed for double-agent of the Prime Minister, attempting to assassinate Masayoshi with deadly gas.
But apparently Masayoshi wises-up to Goto's plan and tries killing him by hurling himself at Goto in an attempt to throw him out the window in a self-sacrificing attack.
Pimp outfit when
>WHY? Why are my expectations not pandered to? Why don't I always get exactly the same formulaic shit I've come to expect? How come sometimes stuff has to challenge my perceptions and expectations? Why does some stuff require me to withhold judgment until the end and ask me to think about what I've watched? I shouldn't have to put up with this shit!!!!!
You lost all right to call anyone an autist.
I think you're just projecting now /a/non, pls relax and have so o-oolong tea
He becomes a super robot that represents justice, fighting evil across the many dimensions and represented in all things that fight evil in the name of justice?
He becomes demonbane?
Substanceless drivel. If the style doesn't charm you, then there is literally nothing for you to latch onto.
It can't be put into the same league as Samurai Flamenco, which actually had some substance and what looked like a purpose until it forgot to take that goddamned left at Albuquerque.
As it stands...
Leave it be, OP. It won't straighten itself back out as a story. Being dead-honest, this series took something overly-sensationalized and childish (superheroism), and played it straight re: consequences and effort. It then lost the message of that when suddenly the lampooned sentai shit became real deal.
And then tried to maintain some sense of tone and interest by having certain elements be "huge conspiracies". And...it's just a mess. A big, sloppy mess of what was once a cute little story.
I'd be shocked to hear that it's even doing good in sales after it jumped shark on its own story.
>all the butthurt Diet Kickass faggots
Fuck off, seriously. All the promotional material indicated that it was going to be an actual toku show. Then when it aired, it wasn't, it was disappointing and stupid SoL vigilante hijinks. Then Guillotine Gorilla happened and it's been a blast ever since.
That was some nice justice.
>implying Samflam ever did well in sales
>anyone who likes what I don't is wrong
>which actually had some substance and what looked like a purpose
Don't make me fucking laugh. What "substance" was there? You're just one of those pseudo-intellectual dipshits that equates anything with fantastical elements as drivel and anything "grounded" as literary excellence. It was a boring SoL show before, it's a fun homage to tokusatsu now. Please, kill yourself.
They tried to warn us. We didn't listen.
Elevens knew something was up since the beginning due to the commercials, so they were pretty careful with the preorders.
Yes, exactly. Only (il)logical step left to take.
What are you talking about? You're free to like stupid SoL hijinks, but you need to get over the fact that SamFlam isn't, and never was, about that.
No, it was fun before, and it's boring now.
>This isn't fun anymore.
I'll let you get back to your spreadsheets.
That's your shitty plebtastic opinion. Drop the show and quit whinging about it, it's been 10 weeks now.
Fuck are you on about? You assume I'm an intellectual snob, and then presume such snobs can't enjoy low-brow content because it's against their charter or some shit?
Get the stick out of your ass. You find the series still fun. Good for you. OP asked an opinion, I gave him an informed one to the best of my ability.
Can't stand that, go get corncobbed until the bad mean words leave your memory.
How can he presume something about you after he's already assumed something about you?
Words have meanings anon. They're not just for whenever you feel like using them.
>all these people misunderstanding what people liked about the early episodes
Those episodes were about what it actually means to be a hero. There was introspection and adherence to a theme, with the MC growing to understand his role as he became more and more relevant in society. Ironically, the episodes where Masayoshi becomes fully like the television heroes he idolizes, he stops being a real hero, and the show stops being about that and becomes about either appealing to or exposing the shallowness of the genres it imitates, depending on how you look at it. This most recent episode was so great because it returns us to show about heroism and reveals the hollow nature of monster battles and giant robots.
OP here, I agree the way they worked on the MC being a super hero was actually quite enjoyable to me since he was just a standard typical guy who enjoyed super heroes and generally doing good for the immediate public(if not the world in the future if the story actually stuck to it) but without that message of hard work and good deeds it originally had I find it bland. Odds are i'll continue to watch it for the sake of watching it but from what other /a/nons have said it stays this way.
I assume you're an intellectual snob because you claim something with no substance "actually had some" and that this supposed substance disappears as soon as the more outrageous elements appear.
I will admit that the Super Sentai arc was kind of weak, but you have to be retarded to think that the King Torture arc was not a natural evolution of Hazama's character and the show's themes.
I...grammar, man. Grammar. My counter involved contesting two. The first linked directly to me (assuming I'm an intellectual blah blah dick). The second was a predetermined idea of what intellectuals were in his head.
Nothing I said was technically incorrect.
No, but it sounds goddamn retarded.
MGRfags are the worst.
I like how you pretend that one of the most important scenes in the exploration of that theme wasn't the torture scene with Mari and Moe.
There's still introspection and adherence to a theme, you just refuse to look past the gaudiness to find it.
And your idea of intellectuals is screwed, obviously.
The show went off the rails. Again, glad it got enjoyable for you, but that's besides the point. SF turned genres right in the middle of the first cour—from some semi-realistic exploration about heroism and justice, to some hamfisted play on sentai without a hint of parody or satire. And then it dove head-first into the parody/satire while still demanding the audience more or less treat it with the same atmospheric seriousness as they treated the first few episodes.
Some goofball pretending he's Kamen Rider is easily-swallowed because it's just one man taking matters too far (and getting checked for his efforts). But government conspiracies, nanotech, crazy chest beams, and a secret sentai team in the backworks, among other things, was too much. For me, it started to go south the instant he got a sponsor with those "believable but okay you're pushing the line, here" weapons from that scientist.
And yeah, dude was different than the bitchy idol. The show let you know from jump street her shit was crooked and not all together. The scientist just popped up out of nowhere.
I don't think I can word the issue any clearer than that.
That scene was fantastic. I was referring more to the Sentai arc than King Torture, which I thought still held true to the core theme despite some flaws in the execution.
when this happens
ITT: Snobby Intellectuals bashing other Snobby Intellectuals.
I'm just going to say I enjoy the show instead of going on about the 20 ways the show mimics the real life troubles of people wanting to be a super hero or other crap.
Can the cops not equip a small arms larger than a derringer in Japan?
I had the impression that that was the case, or something along those lines.
Heavy restrictions on firearms, or something, right?
They don't have them. They have never needed guns there. There's no crime there.
When you fight large monsters on a day to day basis, the government would most often equip you with bigger guns.
Fuck y'all fag, Mizuki best girl
>And your idea of intellectuals is screwed, obviously.
No, I'm talking about pseudo-intellectuals. I apologize for forgetting to add that prefix in my last post. I wasn't paying attention, and your dropping of the prefix went past me.
And the show never went off the rails. If anything, it got on them. The show was constantly advertised in promotional material as a tokusatsu show. The show was constantly escalating from the get go. From a guy in a costume getting beaten up, the guy in the costume being actually successful, Flamenco Girl, becoming a national sensation, the Flamenco Girls and then the gadgets. Of course nobody expected the gorilla going into episode 7, but looking back with hindsight, where else could they have gone? What did you think they were going to do with this for the remaining 16 episodes?
>semi-realistic exploration about heroism and justice, to some hamfisted play on sentai without a hint of parody or satire
You mean a hamfisted exploration of heroism and justice. There's your pseudo-intellectualism rearing its head again. And this show has always had a sense of parody. Parody doesn't necessitate Gintama or Mel Brooks levels of wackiness. You can still have drama and seriousness within a parody.
Monkey Trouble was the best thing to happen to this show.
Toku, not sentai. It went from Kickass to a tokusatsu.
And the cours are different themes. First was 'What is a Hero' and the new one is 'What is Justice?'
why is it always the monkeys that start shot?
Don't drop it if you believe in Justice.
My African American brother
Mizuki best girl
Honestly I wouldn't have minded the switch so much except it seems like it threw away half of the development from the first part.
Here's what I think the show is about. Masayoshi started out chasing stolen umbrellas and asking people to follow the rules. Most people wouldn't go out of their way to do this, but it's not something anyone couldn't do if they felt like it. Now he has to shoulder the lives of people, protect the world, make decisions about killing enemies, and now struggle in a world that has turned against him. And it's wearing on him. Will his justice hold strong or will it break? That's what the scene about Masayoshi almost stealing bread is about.
He wanted to be a superhero, and now he's got it, and everything that comes with it. Was it worth it?