How come there isn't as big a support for a pairing between Misato and Shinji? From the looks of it they have the most in common as well as the fact that she's the only female that Shinji doesn't spaghetti over. She also has the most concern for his well being and actually gives a fuck about what he thinks. Plus she's fully developed unlike all the other girls.
Nigga it's my favorite pairing, what are you on?
Most of the threads I come across on /a/ are often centered around Asuka, Rei, or Mari
no pairing bullshit but asuka and shinji objectively have the most in common
Well to be fair, she looks smokin' in Misato's getup.
misato best girl
She's closer to a maternal figure for Shinji than an object of sexual desire. That isn't to say there's not some crossover.
You're damn right.
She should have got dat Shinji booty while the raping was good
Because Misato loves Kaji.
Agree on that, they're also the most fuckable chars on Evangelion
she could definitely have given him some "motherly love"
The theme for all Misato sympathizers
Like a hug or something?
use your imagination, anon
Like a really long hug?
Yeah, a hug, some deep fuggin' huggin'
I'm just gonna leave this here http://exhentai.org/g/238925/f2ad5fa054/
You're getting close.
dear lord, any more like this?
Well now I have to go fap, I hope you're happy with yourself. This is the price of being lewd Anon-kun.
A grown up hug?
Here yah go.
Oh yeah, a big ol' smelly and sweaty grown up hug.
No idea on that one, found it in a thread a few days back.
>Dat young love.
Anon you are a king among serfs!
everything by saigado and bakuretsu fuusen involving eva is all amazing.
Got a whole lovely folder of Misato, she is by far my favorite lady of the whole series.
She's awesome but I don't really see the maternal relationship between the two. They interact more like a couple.
>They interact more like a couple
Oh but Anon, that's the way I like it, didn't mean to confuse that point at all.
Good taste thread.
Oh sorry, I wasn't specifically directing that comment towards you but rather to the people who view their relationship like a mother and a son in general.
I thought they kissed already?
No worries Anon, I'm just happy there are other Misato fans out there, that's good enough for me.
Misato is more like an older sister than a mother figure. Their relationship is stated officially as 'family' like and the one listed as mother is always Rei.
Holy crap! There are Eva fans on /a/ that aren't massive Shinji fags? I really hate this Shinji x Misato pairing. It couldn't be more Bullshit. It like these stupid fags don't know the difference between caring for someone and loving them.
>Assumes that anyone on /a/ has an understanding of "love"
Why are we here anon?
By far my favorite character is the Evangelion series, or at least the one I can mostly empathize with. If the whole world was to be destroyed I'd be glad if only her survived. Too bad in 3.0 she turned into a bitch.
Saigado is decent, but this one is better.
Yeah why was she like that in 3.0? She of all people should know that Shinji had little to no control over his actions. How come no one ever told Shinji anything? It's like giving a man a hardhat and saying "now you're a construction worker, go build a bridge."
Their relationship is kind of ambiguous, and that's what makes it so awesome.
Didn't she actually try to give him the V, and he told her to fuck off?
Granted, it was right after one of the most traumatizing events in his life, but still, what a fag.
No. No. Seriously, stop the bullshit. It's dumb fucking fanboys that look way to deep into the series. Because of the whole "2deep4u" that surrounds the series.
I don't know a lot about evageeks to know what you mean by that, but someone from here posted that link before. It certainly points out some interesting elements of their relationship that one might miss.
Yeah, because she a broken person that only knows how to comfort people by using sex.
Evageeks has their heads so far up their own asses that they overlook the obvious in favor of non-existent subtext.
This nigga gets it.
I know it has that whole "hot for sempai" appeal going for it, and yes it does have a rather unsettling amount of support from the anime itself, but lets not kid ourselves by thinking it would be anything other than an utter disaster like all Eva ships:
>misato cant reconcile her role as guardian with her use of sex to inform all her relationships with men
>shinji is 14 and less than half her age
>misato runs the moment any of her relationships with anyone become too involved rather than actually commit to any sort of real emotional intimacy
>shinji is fucking 14
>misato is an alcoholic whose first inclination when life is tough is to get piss drunk
DID I MENTION THAT SHINJI IS GODDAMN JAILBAIT YET?!
Reminds me of this. He speculates on how Eva would go if the ages were flipped.
Shinji is now Director of NERV, Asuka is the head scientist, Rei is a mole from SEELE, while Misato, Ritsuko, and Kaiji are the pilots.
There's more, but I'm not sure exactly where.
Boys can't be victims of statutory rape, what are you a goober of sorts?
I wonder why everyone forgets Kaworu is like a 28 year old guy in 3.0 going for dat shota booty.
Wouldn't make as much money as flipping their sexes.
You know come to think of it, I don't think there is a single instance throughout the entirely of the franchise where two characters just hug each other where one doesn't turn into tang.
Let that settle in for a moment.
Yeah I've noticed this as well. Shinji doesn't get a single hug in the entirety of the series.
I like Misato better as a maternal figure than a love interest for Shinji.
>implying you wouldn't watch a Lilo and Stitch-like spinoff of Misato trying to take care of Asuka and Shinji
>Shinji is now Director of NERV, Asuka is the head scientist, Rei is a mole from SEELE, while Misato, Ritsuko, and Kaiji are the pilots.
Holy fuck! That sounds way better than original concept. That should've been the movies.
Perhaps, but that's been done to death so hard it's almost generic now.
Then who was the emotionally distant son?
Who was the emotionally destroyed daughter?
Who was the autistic clone?
Holy fuck, fund it. Kickstart it. Call the congressional committee to get funding.
JUST FUCKING MAKE IT
There's a great fanfic about Misato getting aged back to 14 and becoming a back-up Eva pilot. Her and Shinji eventually hook up and its really cute.
Kaji, misato and ritsuko
Just Re-watching the series.
Misato actually hugs Shinji when he escapes from the Sea of Dirac Angel at the end of Ep. 16.
Evangelion is already a mecha show with the sexes flipped to begin with.
this actually exists?
It would end up pretty much having a regular mecha cast which is the funny thing. Eva is just a regular mecha show that flipped the girls and the boys.
Gendo, Misato and Ritsuko in various ways, and still Rei, but less so.
There's a few.
I liked Shinji & 40k, and Nobody Dies, even though it has it's own problems.
But the author realizes this and is trying to write a Rebuild of Nobody Dies. Shinji and Hikari are a couple.
>>Sea of Dirac
I think I might have fucked up something there
Anyway, since this turned into an EVa general, let me ask you guys something:
EVAs are Milf powered beings, right? Shinji and Asuka can pilot because their mother's souls right?
Rei can pilot because... well, because she's fucking Rei.
Now, how the hell was Suzahara supposed to pilot Unit 3? Did I miss something?
Toji's mom is in the robot.
This doesn't explain why Asuka was able to pilot 03 in the rebuilds though.
So we know that Shinji kissed Misato, but did he go all the way with Asuka?
Because Rebuild discards the idea that your mother's soul needs to be inside the Eva to pilot it. Mari goes through three Evas over two movies, so unless she was the daughter of polygamous lesbians it's safe to say they dropped that aspect.
Don't remember that from the anime. Is that told in the manga?
He did on Anno's original draft
>reading the Eva manga before the anime
>anime was released first
It's never stated directly but it can be pretty safely inferred from what we know in the series.
Kind of. They do have mindsex.
I'm gonna need a source on that one bud.
Because her true love is Kaiji. She's only into Shinji for the forbidden /ss/.
So what EVAs are basically mechs now?
Why force Misato and Shinji together when they each have their own true loves?
They're still pseudo angels with human souls but they aren't exclusive to one pilot anymore.
Asuka and Shinji were supposed to have sex after the mindrape angel, angry awkward sex that would separate them even more, but the production was a fucking nightmare and the show was already in troubles for pushing the limits of the primetime slot.
Couldn't they have just put her mom's core into 03?
She wasn't lying when she promised us more fanservice in the sneak previews.
Well, according to EoE they have a lot of spare time and a really big planet to populate... So I guess it'll probably happen anyway. Who knows...
Was Kaji killed off because he was too normal?
I'm aware of the theory that this was suppose to be the case and I've heard it thrown around a lot but I've never actually seen anything solid backing it up.
Is that why everyone in Rebuild is so retarded? From all the inbred sexings?
Nah he's tending to his melons.
They also hate each other.
It's probably just bullshit that's been repeated so much people buy it, like most behind the scenes eva rumors
that's what I've been saying this whole time: shiji is actually the son of NGE shinji and a rei clone.
Love is destructive.
odi et amo
They'll all die off within one or two generations from a non-existent gene pool.
It fits with the theme of the Hedhehog dilemma and back then Anno wasn't afraid of the purity faggotry. Again, I don't know if that theory is real but it'd be great as the exact opposite of Karekano's sex scene on episode 18.
>Confirmed for not understanding the series/movie
That's always been my position on it.
Rei clones are sterile.
Asuka was shown to be kinder to Shinji, but she still finds him disgusting. And Shinji was crying as usual.
Too afraid of the posibility of your waifu not being pure?
>Rei clones are sterile
>A woman who does not bleed
but that's a tree, not a woman
>accepting a convoluted meta analysis of character motivations over the clearly shown act of trying to kill someone
It's not like Asuka never used Shinji before
Well he isn't being very subtle with the Rebuilds now is he?
feels man. feels...
Yeah... For a story that was supposed to have a happy ending, that was really terrible. I guess they might eventually find other survivors... But, anyway, Fanfics...
Or maybe he's preparing you for the ultimate ruse.
Do you think things will even go tang in 4.0?
Did you watch the show?
Asuka and Shinji have both been shown to act completely irrationally. If it was anyone else, then we could just go by what is shown, but with these two, you just can't.
You're right. I can't wait for Mari to win the Evanjelly.
Jesus, this scene. That look of utter dejection, of knowing she's lost to a real adult woman, and that she never had a chance in the first place. Its the first time that her final rejection by Kaji truly sinks in.
You don't try to kill someone because you're secretly in love with them. By EoE they both shared at best a serious animosity for each other.
Just anti-Asukafags or Reifags trolling.
Don't take the bait.
Don't even joke about that. We all know it's going to be toji's sister all grown up.
>anyone that disagrees with me is trolling
Come on man.
All I remember is their rei clone daughteru stumbling onto the brother and sister 5 seconds before they were about to make out.
Fuck Shinji. I hate that shitlord. I don't necessarily hate the show, nor the universe it created, but I loathe that whiny, narcissistic, autistic asshole. I've often imagined living in that world and how I would ruin him. I would find Asuka and woo h er, giving her the thing she craves, what she needs; a real man. Then as we begin fooling around I would have her call Shinji. When he answered, and he invariable would, I would begin to pleasure her, but I would also tell her to try and contain herself. As she would struggled to hold back the pleasure she would feel my dick would become hard as iron and I would begin to pound her like a fucking blacksmith. Not long after she would no longer be able to contain herself, at first moaning like a cat in heat that's been given ectasy, finally culminating in screaming like a mad woman, finally succumbing to the power of my girth. All the while Shinji would be sitting there, motionless, paralyzed by dread and despair. I would finish on her stupid face satisfied with the knowledge I ruined Ikari's life. He wouldn't kill himself, but not a day would go by where he wouldn't consider it.
Nah... Despite everything Asuka still loves him, but is unable to admit that to him and is somehow conflicted by the fact that he's still acts like a kid. Girls mature faster so I guess that's normal.
nah man, 4.44 shinji will accept his fate as the antagonist, kill misato for being a bitch, kill gendo for being a prick, rape asuka for being a cunt then strangle her then return to unit 1 with his mommy and 5th impact the fuck out of there
Watch as its revealed at the end that Pen Pen was the orchestrator of all the events behind the scenes.
Is this copypasta?
Now that.... Would be fucking awesome.
Is Sakura even listed to return for 4.0?
>IT'S MARI TIME
The alternative is you being a retard; I tried to give you the benefit of the doubt.
I won't make that mistake again.
who knows man, I mean what the hell happened to kaji, toji and the other secondary characters
I fell like I'm the only one who like 3.0 misato as a cool captain of a pretty cool crew. I wish we got Blue Submarine No. EVA with all of them instead of the shinji being sad some more.
She doesn't love him at any point in EoE. She may still care about him but it's pretty buried under all her feelings towards him leading up to that point. It took Shinji trying to kill her just to bring out the slightly bit of affection.
This is the best thing i've seen today.
>that scene in 2.22 where he talks to the other penguins was really him giving orders to have them enact his schemes for complete dominion over their human oppressors
>You don't try to kill someone because you're secretly in love with them.
You've never been in a relationship.
I take back my use of cool for misato. Looking at it again her coat is shit. Ritsuko's top teir though, and so are the two guys from nerv.
>hey kids! looking forward to seeing what all these cool new characters are like in 3.0?
>well fuck you! have two gay kids eye-fucking each other while playing the piano for 40 minutes!
Misato's original coat was pretty rad though, I'd wear it
I'm sorry I poked some holes in your ship of choice. Just go read Re-Take again and you'll feel better.
>Ritsuko's top tier though
Nope. Dykesuko looks like shit.
Anyone else think the Ville crew's uniforms look kinda like pic related? They are after all a ragtag bunch of rebels.
>implying it's not more of a love/hate relationship
4.0 will have a hot springs scene where Kaworu returns from the dead. Pachinko said so.
Fuck this shit made me laugh so hard I don't even know why
She's got a pretty sweet jacket. And for all we know she could be the same ritsuko. Maya looks better too, maybe she learned to control her gag relfex after 14 years. Pink hair is the only one I truly hate.
>hating the pixie cut
I see the hate but where's the love?
>slightly bit of affection
I don't know man. Coming from Asuka *this* was kind of a big deal. I doubt that would be her reaction would be so kind if she truly did not love him. I guess the "disgusting" was just Asuka being Asuka...
Hey Eva faggots,
My name is Hideaki Anno, and I hate every single one of you. All of you are fat, disgusting, Lilin who spend every second of their day looking at stupid Asuka hentai pictures. You are everything bad in the world. Honestly, have any of you ever Watched rebuild? I mean, I guess it’s fun making those stupid theories because of your waifus, but you all take to a whole new level. This is even worse than jerking off to sleeping girls.
Don’t be like Rei. Just hit me with your best theory. I’m pretty much gonna destroy it in the next movie. I won Animage Anime Grand Prix award, and directed and writed over 12 movies. What prize do you have, other than “best waifu happy fanfic”? I also get straight 6 figures writing, and have messing up with the most interesting character(He just blew; Shit was SO cash). You are all otakus who should just kill yourselves. Thanks for listening.
Pic Related: It’s me and my bitch
I always figured that was her reaction to Shinji jerking it from the hospital.
I think they got the idea from something a little closer to home.
>He just blew; Shit was SO cash
Shinji's too old for it to be /ss/, and Misato's too much of a slut for a normal relationship.
I doubt Asuka would have bothered to check up on him in the hospital after the incident with Leliel if she didn't care for him at all.
And if Shinji didn't care for her, I doubt she would be another one of the people he said he wanted to protect in EoE. Or bother saving her from drowning in the lava in the magma driver episode.
They're really just reminiscent of bickering siblings.
>not just putting Ikuhara
>not switching their roles
It was enough to bring Shinji back from the brink of killing her but caressing someone's face doesn't automatically fix everything between two people. Especially when she follows it up by calling him disgusting and leaving him to cry.
Before everything tumbled down it was obvious they cared about each other. But then they both got tumbled hard.
>you will never see this in real life
Not sure if she actually knows about that. I mean, she was sedated when he jerked off. But, then again, she could have learned about that while they were Tang'ed.
But anyway, why would she be the only one to return? Just to torment torment poor Shinji for the rest of their brief lives on that godforsaken earth?
Anno can't be that cruel....
Some people just can't be happy.
Because there is no pairing.
Misato will fuck anything and everyone, she's the very personification of the world slut.
She's a tease. I don't think she actually fucked anyone other than Kaji
Isn't it supposed that more people come back afterwards anyway?
I mean his mom literly says they have to reconfigure their bodies inside all that orange tang. so its just that we only see the starting part of mass resurection
She sure behaves like she has.
>Especially when she follows it up by calling him disgusting and leaving him to cry.
He jerked off to her while she was sleeping, out of all people, of course Asuka would call him disgusting.
>why would she be the only one to return?
Asuka was too individualistic and hated the lack of boundaries within instrumentality. And yes, that's where she found out about Shinji fapping to her, but that's also where she finally learned to understand him.
In EoE he was in the train car with Asuka, Rei, and Misato and Asuka stood over him and mentioned knowing about him beating off to her in the hospital.
That could have just been apart of his mindrape though.
>everyone dies again because the entire earth has been scorched and the oceans are nothing but LCL
It's stated that other people have the ability to come back, but given how rusted over Misato's cross was, it's going to take a while if it took even Asuka that long to return.
>of course Asuka would call him disgusting.
She also would understand exactly why he did it and how he felt after. Considering he just decided not to kill her a little bit of empathy would've gone a long way. Talk about twisting the knife.
She's fucked literally everyone in the series except the kids and maybe the old dude.
So can someone explain to me the relationship between Nerve and Seele? Or for that matter what Instrumentality is?
Poor Fuyutsuki can't catch a break. Guy was probably looking forward to retirement soon before the whole world ended then gets duped into serving an organization bent on ending it all over again by the man who married his crush. Half of his appearances consist of him giving various cast members that vacant "please kill me" stare.
the only part of the world thats scorched is the area that the third impact hit.
i mean sure everywhere else is gonna full of lcl but thats apparently primordial soup, im sure they can live with it
i don't think he was laying there that long (enough time for iron to rust) for her to show up. maybe it wasnt rust but just the fact that it been through alot and got fucked up on the way back to shinji. Plus apparently the entire lcl ocean level went lower since that time frame so that could imply that more people came out. just not in view
Are you asking about the anime or rebuild movies? From my understanding they are somewhat different depending on which version.
im asking about the one thats not shit
Understanding someone does not necessitate that you condone his or her actions.
>a little bit of empathy would've gone a long way
Empathy is exactly what caused Asuka to react to Shinji the way she did.
It's incredibly vague and I think it was done on purpose to leave the ending up for interpretation. But that cross still sticks in my mind as being a tad out of place.
I guess from the Original to EoE
But, guys... LCL is made out of PEOPLE!
>Misato loves Kaji and vice-versa
>too old for him
>Shinji never saw her as a MILF, just a mom
>Misato only came onto Shinji when she went a little depressed and loopy after Kaji died
>There's been 0 sexual tension from either of them, if we're talking Rebuild
Well, people always assume it's rust but there are all kinds of tarnishing that happen to metal when it's exposed to ocean air
Rebuild gutted all the sexual themes, except for the homo ones anyways.
If he's up to it, she fucked him too. It's just when you get to be that age, your equipment doesn't always work as well.
She has to put on a hard face since she's surrounded by people who wrongly hate his guts.
You know, herd mentality, peer pressure and all of that.
>after Kaji died
He didn't just die. She betrayed and murdered him.
It doesn't change the fact that she could have taken five minutes to actually talk to him.
She doesn't have to condone it but she could have made an effort to forgive him, assuming she does love him. The caress is really ambiguous, it could be either her trying to express her feelings for him or self-preservation. The fact she immediately goes right back to regular Asuka makes me inclined to believe it's the later.
What? Do you really, really believe she was the one that killed Kaji?
Yeah, that's the point I was trying to make.
Sexual tension has been restricted to Kaworu and maybe Rei.
>The caress is really ambiguous
The caress was the least ambiguous thing about that scene. This is Asuka we're talking about.
Literly ALL the problems in nge could be fixed if people just communicated correctly. i think honestly this might just be a problem with japan or the fact that every anime script writer uses it as plot devices for conflict.
Any sane, normal, or even remotley human, human can communicate better than anyone in any anime ive seen
Every time she tries to talk with him she's either
>interrupted by an attack
>too busy keeping humanity's last stand busy and preoccupied with orders.
Or maybe she's playing the Gendo game and doesn't want him to know all of the details for the sake of his own sanity or for the protection of others.
So she decides to show affection when her life is in danger and then go right back to breaking him down? If this wasn't NGE this wouldn't even be up for debate but since it is I'm calling it ambiguous.
Instrumentality is basically the destruction of individuality, in a way making humanity the proper last angel as one.
SEELE were the ones who wanted to set it up and NERV executed it.
Which may explain why all the students in that class were "potential eVA pilots." They could have done the same if their mother's souls were in EVA units.
But anon, If she did that none of the events from 3.0 would happen.
I appreciate that Anno finally decided to bring something new to the Eva movies, but goddamn... that was a shitty movie.
The reason she shows affection is because it shows that she finally grew as a person and was willing to put aside her own feelings for the sake of somebody else's, which she was never capable of doing throughout the series. There was never any guarantee that caressing Shinji's cheeks would have even stopped him from continuing to choke her if self preservation was the goal.
Considering how the series deals with 'meaningful' human interaction and that act in the greater thematic context of the film and series, writing it off as an act of craven self-preservation is astonishingly short-sighted.
Then what the everloving fuck is an AT field?
>and placing that act in
missed a word there, whoops
Welcome to Eva, the series where people are incapable of talking to each other because they all have ridiculous mental issues.
It has to do with the whole theme of human interaction being painful at times, but because it's real it's still worthwhile. Just because they stopped fighting doesn't mean they''re going to automatically go straight to being lovey-dovey with one another.
I'm calling it ambiguous because we really don't know what Asuka was feeling at that moment. You can try and say that it was because she loved Shinji but that makes just as little sense as an act of self preservation in the context of the movie.
This was more or less what I was trying to say.
>because she loved Shinji
I never said that she loved Shinji. I said that she understood him well enough to finally start being nice to him.
>because we really don't know what Asuka was feeling at that moment.
We also know how Asuka usually reacts when confronted with danger. Kindness isn't it.
I'll definitely agree that jumping to any kind of romantic conclusions is a bit much, but framing it as an act of self-preservation requires just as many tenuous (at best) assumptions
>finally start being nice to him.
I wouldn't even go that far. She really just tempered the hate Shinji was feeling for her. They could learn to be kind to each other again but they're basically back to square one.
I really didn't present my point well. In my defense I've been drinking.
>back to square one.
For Shinji you mean. When has Asuka ever been shown to be genuinely nice to him in NGE?
Well hell, I'll take slightly incoherent discussion over the normal eva thread fare.
>This was more or less what I was trying to say.
If that was true, then your whole interpretation of that scene as Asuka trying to save herself is cheapened since it means people would only dare interact with each other only when their lives were at stake, not because they actually wanted to.
Her earlier attitude towards Shinji was somewhat abrasive but by no means hateful.
I mean, when has Asuka ever shown that she unambiguously liked Shinji without teasing him?
I already said I did a poor job of trying to convey my point here >>101947095
There's the scene after she gets off the phone with her step mother when she opens up to him before realizing what she had done and trying to save face.
True, but she still hides behind her tsun as a cover for her feelings. My point was that the caress was the first time where Asuka bared her feelings without caring about how other people would see her, not the least this person being Shinji.
And even then they removed the bro shower and all the explicitly gay lines.
Well in the EoE scene she does the same thing right after by calling him disgusting. If she had really decided to open up she could have said pretty much anything else.
There's nothing tsun about calling someone who masturbated to you while you were comatose disgusting.
You can let some things slide when it's the end of the world.
She's not the one doing the choking. At least, when we left off that is.