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How come there isn't as big a support for a pairing between Misato and Shinji? From the looks of it they have the most in common as well as the fact that she's the only female that Shinji doesn't spaghetti over. She also has the most concern for his well being and actually gives a fuck about what he thinks. Plus she's fully developed unlike all the other girls.
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>>101938832
Nigga it's my favorite pairing, what are you on?
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>>101938903
Most of the threads I come across on /a/ are often centered around Asuka, Rei, or Mari
>Mari
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no pairing bullshit but asuka and shinji objectively have the most in common
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>>101938995
Well to be fair, she looks smokin' in Misato's getup.
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misato best girl
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She's closer to a maternal figure for Shinji than an object of sexual desire. That isn't to say there's not some crossover.
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>>101939144
You're damn right.

She should have got dat Shinji booty while the raping was good
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>>101938832
Because Misato loves Kaji.
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>>101939235
best couple
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>>101939315
Agree on that, they're also the most fuckable chars on Evangelion
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>>101939186
she could definitely have given him some "motherly love"
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOVKcLYA9BA

The theme for all Misato sympathizers
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>>101939629
Like a hug or something?
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>>101939767
use your imagination, anon
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>>101939793
Like a really long hug?
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>>101939767
Yeah, a hug, some deep fuggin' huggin'
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I'm just gonna leave this here http://exhentai.org/g/238925/f2ad5fa054/
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>>101939833
You're getting close.
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>>101939836
dear lord, any more like this?
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>>101939923
Well now I have to go fap, I hope you're happy with yourself. This is the price of being lewd Anon-kun.
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>>101939949
A grown up hug?
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>>101939985
Here yah go.

http://exhentai.org/g/552045/c531cc0710/
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>>101940022
Oh yeah, a big ol' smelly and sweaty grown up hug.
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>>101939949
Source?
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>>101940075
No idea on that one, found it in a thread a few days back.
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>>101940073
>Dat young love.
Anon you are a king among serfs!
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everything by saigado and bakuretsu fuusen involving eva is all amazing.
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>>101940180
Got a whole lovely folder of Misato, she is by far my favorite lady of the whole series.
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>>101940370
She's awesome but I don't really see the maternal relationship between the two. They interact more like a couple.
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>>101940456
>They interact more like a couple
Oh but Anon, that's the way I like it, didn't mean to confuse that point at all.
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Good taste thread.
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http://exhentai.org/g/654672/89c3892ce9/
http://exhentai.org/g/601027/4d0298bf91/
http://exhentai.org/g/600954/0173f944bf/
http://exhentai.org/g/600954/0173f944bf/
http://exhentai.org/g/596105/34c5b928eb/
http://exhentai.org/g/406317/5b81d20720/
http://exhentai.org/g/287364/418c3f43ab/
http://exhentai.org/g/45251/56332924fc/

Enjoy.
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>>101940512
Oh sorry, I wasn't specifically directing that comment towards you but rather to the people who view their relationship like a mother and a son in general.
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I thought they kissed already?
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>>101940581
No worries Anon, I'm just happy there are other Misato fans out there, that's good enough for me.
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>>101940645
Sure did.
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>>101940456
Misato is more like an older sister than a mother figure. Their relationship is stated officially as 'family' like and the one listed as mother is always Rei.
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>>101939235
>>101939315
Holy crap! There are Eva fans on /a/ that aren't massive Shinji fags? I really hate this Shinji x Misato pairing. It couldn't be more Bullshit. It like these stupid fags don't know the difference between caring for someone and loving them.
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>>101940897
>Assumes that anyone on /a/ has an understanding of "love"
Why are we here anon?
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By far my favorite character is the Evangelion series, or at least the one I can mostly empathize with. If the whole world was to be destroyed I'd be glad if only her survived. Too bad in 3.0 she turned into a bitch.

>>101939923

Saigado is decent, but this one is better.
http://exhentai.org/g/552045/c531cc0710/
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>>101940973
Yeah why was she like that in 3.0? She of all people should know that Shinji had little to no control over his actions. How come no one ever told Shinji anything? It's like giving a man a hardhat and saying "now you're a construction worker, go build a bridge."
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>>101940897
Their relationship is kind of ambiguous, and that's what makes it so awesome.
http://wiki.evageeks.org/Theory_and_Analysis:Sexuality_In_Misato_and_Shinji%27s_Relationship
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>>101941135
>evageeks

Just leave.
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>>101940073
hhnnnnggghh
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>>101941135
>evageeks
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Didn't she actually try to give him the V, and he told her to fuck off?

Granted, it was right after one of the most traumatizing events in his life, but still, what a fag.
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>>101941135
No. No. Seriously, stop the bullshit. It's dumb fucking fanboys that look way to deep into the series. Because of the whole "2deep4u" that surrounds the series.
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>>101941181
I don't know a lot about evageeks to know what you mean by that, but someone from here posted that link before. It certainly points out some interesting elements of their relationship that one might miss.
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>>101941410
Yeah, because she a broken person that only knows how to comfort people by using sex.
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>>101941468
Evageeks has their heads so far up their own asses that they overlook the obvious in favor of non-existent subtext.
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>>101941546
This nigga gets it.
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>>101938832

I know it has that whole "hot for sempai" appeal going for it, and yes it does have a rather unsettling amount of support from the anime itself, but lets not kid ourselves by thinking it would be anything other than an utter disaster like all Eva ships:

>misato cant reconcile her role as guardian with her use of sex to inform all her relationships with men
>shinji is 14 and less than half her age
>misato runs the moment any of her relationships with anyone become too involved rather than actually commit to any sort of real emotional intimacy
>shinji is fucking 14
>misato is an alcoholic whose first inclination when life is tough is to get piss drunk

DID I MENTION THAT SHINJI IS GODDAMN JAILBAIT YET?!
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>>101940073
>http://forum.rpg.net/showthread.php?552841-IWIW-Evangelion-Part-3-33-We-Can-(Not)-Keep-Posting&p=13272375#post13272375
Reminds me of this. He speculates on how Eva would go if the ages were flipped.
Shinji is now Director of NERV, Asuka is the head scientist, Rei is a mole from SEELE, while Misato, Ritsuko, and Kaiji are the pilots.
There's more, but I'm not sure exactly where.
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>>101941765
Boys can't be victims of statutory rape, what are you a goober of sorts?
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>>101941765
I wonder why everyone forgets Kaworu is like a 28 year old guy in 3.0 going for dat shota booty.
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>>101941840
Wouldn't make as much money as flipping their sexes.
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>>101939767

You know come to think of it, I don't think there is a single instance throughout the entirely of the franchise where two characters just hug each other where one doesn't turn into tang.

Let that settle in for a moment.
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>>101941926
Yeah I've noticed this as well. Shinji doesn't get a single hug in the entirety of the series.
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I like Misato better as a maternal figure than a love interest for Shinji.

>implying you wouldn't watch a Lilo and Stitch-like spinoff of Misato trying to take care of Asuka and Shinji
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>>101941962
>filename
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>>101941840
>Shinji is now Director of NERV, Asuka is the head scientist, Rei is a mole from SEELE, while Misato, Ritsuko, and Kaiji are the pilots.
Holy fuck! That sounds way better than original concept. That should've been the movies.
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>>101941904
Perhaps, but that's been done to death so hard it's almost generic now.
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>>101941840
Then who was the emotionally distant son?
Who was the emotionally destroyed daughter?
Who was the autistic clone?
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>>101941904
Holy fuck, fund it. Kickstart it. Call the congressional committee to get funding.

JUST FUCKING MAKE IT
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>>101940073

There's a great fanfic about Misato getting aged back to 14 and becoming a back-up Eva pilot. Her and Shinji eventually hook up and its really cute.

https://www.fanfiction.net/s/4574288/1/Altered-Destinies
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>>101942034
Kaji, misato and ritsuko
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>>101941926
Just Re-watching the series.
Misato actually hugs Shinji when he escapes from the Sea of Dirac Angel at the end of Ep. 16.
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>>101941904
Evangelion is already a mecha show with the sexes flipped to begin with.
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>>101942062
>great fanfic
this actually exists?
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>>101942026
It would end up pretty much having a regular mecha cast which is the funny thing. Eva is just a regular mecha show that flipped the girls and the boys.
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>>101942034
Gendo, Misato and Ritsuko in various ways, and still Rei, but less so.
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>>101942172
There's a few.
I liked Shinji & 40k, and Nobody Dies, even though it has it's own problems.
But the author realizes this and is trying to write a Rebuild of Nobody Dies. Shinji and Hikari are a couple.
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>>101942147
>>Sea of Dirac
I think I might have fucked up something there

Anyway, since this turned into an EVa general, let me ask you guys something:

EVAs are Milf powered beings, right? Shinji and Asuka can pilot because their mother's souls right?
Rei can pilot because... well, because she's fucking Rei.
Now, how the hell was Suzahara supposed to pilot Unit 3? Did I miss something?
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>>101942418
Toji's mom is in the robot.
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>>101942476
This.

This doesn't explain why Asuka was able to pilot 03 in the rebuilds though.
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So we know that Shinji kissed Misato, but did he go all the way with Asuka?
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>>101942532
Because Rebuild discards the idea that your mother's soul needs to be inside the Eva to pilot it. Mari goes through three Evas over two movies, so unless she was the daughter of polygamous lesbians it's safe to say they dropped that aspect.
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>>101942588
No.
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/ss/ thread?
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>>101942476
Don't remember that from the anime. Is that told in the manga?
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>>101942588
He did on Anno's original draft
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>>101942650
>reading the Eva manga before the anime
>anime was released first
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>>101942650
It's never stated directly but it can be pretty safely inferred from what we know in the series.
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>>101942588
Kind of. They do have mindsex.
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>>101942671
I'm gonna need a source on that one bud.
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>>101938832
Because her true love is Kaiji. She's only into Shinji for the forbidden /ss/.
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>>101942603
So what EVAs are basically mechs now?
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>>101942823
Why force Misato and Shinji together when they each have their own true loves?
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>>101942833
They're still pseudo angels with human souls but they aren't exclusive to one pilot anymore.
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>>101942771
Asuka and Shinji were supposed to have sex after the mindrape angel, angry awkward sex that would separate them even more, but the production was a fucking nightmare and the show was already in troubles for pushing the limits of the primetime slot.
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>>101942532
Couldn't they have just put her mom's core into 03?
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She wasn't lying when she promised us more fanservice in the sneak previews.
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>>101942894
>Shinji
>true love
Nigga wut?
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>>101942588
>>101942671

Well, according to EoE they have a lot of spare time and a really big planet to populate... So I guess it'll probably happen anyway. Who knows...
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Was Kaji killed off because he was too normal?
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>>101942969
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>>101942932
I'm aware of the theory that this was suppose to be the case and I've heard it thrown around a lot but I've never actually seen anything solid backing it up.
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>>101942978
Is that why everyone in Rebuild is so retarded? From all the inbred sexings?

>>101942997
Nah he's tending to his melons.
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>>101942978
They also hate each other.
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>>101943042
It's probably just bullshit that's been repeated so much people buy it, like most behind the scenes eva rumors
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>>101943045
that's what I've been saying this whole time: shiji is actually the son of NGE shinji and a rei clone.
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>>101943093
Love is destructive.
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>>101943093
odi et amo
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>>101942978
>That fanfic

They'll all die off within one or two generations from a non-existent gene pool.
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>>101943042
It fits with the theme of the Hedhehog dilemma and back then Anno wasn't afraid of the purity faggotry. Again, I don't know if that theory is real but it'd be great as the exact opposite of Karekano's sex scene on episode 18.
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>>101943093
>Confirmed for not understanding the series/movie
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>>101943097
That's always been my position on it.
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>>101943139
Rei clones are sterile.

>>101943175
Asuka was shown to be kinder to Shinji, but she still finds him disgusting. And Shinji was crying as usual.
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>>101943097
Too afraid of the posibility of your waifu not being pure?
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>>101943217
>Rei clones are sterile

[citations needed]
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>>101943249
>A woman who does not bleed
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>>101943275
but that's a tree, not a woman
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>>101943175
>accepting a convoluted meta analysis of character motivations over the clearly shown act of trying to kill someone
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>>101943097
It's not like Asuka never used Shinji before
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>>101943198
Well he isn't being very subtle with the Rebuilds now is he?
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>>101939649
feels man. feels...
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>>101943171
Yeah... For a story that was supposed to have a happy ending, that was really terrible. I guess they might eventually find other survivors... But, anyway, Fanfics...
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>>101943307
Or maybe he's preparing you for the ultimate ruse.
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Do you think things will even go tang in 4.0?
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>>101943304
Did you watch the show?
Asuka and Shinji have both been shown to act completely irrationally. If it was anyone else, then we could just go by what is shown, but with these two, you just can't.
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>>101939649
>better version
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMDBRDUd0a4
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>>101943422
You're right. I can't wait for Mari to win the Evanjelly.
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>>101943305

Jesus, this scene. That look of utter dejection, of knowing she's lost to a real adult woman, and that she never had a chance in the first place. Its the first time that her final rejection by Kaji truly sinks in.
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>>101943448
You don't try to kill someone because you're secretly in love with them. By EoE they both shared at best a serious animosity for each other.
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>>101943448
Just anti-Asukafags or Reifags trolling.

Don't take the bait.
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>>101943523
Don't even joke about that. We all know it's going to be toji's sister all grown up.
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>>101943603
>anyone that disagrees with me is trolling
Come on man.
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>>101942978
All I remember is their rei clone daughteru stumbling onto the brother and sister 5 seconds before they were about to make out.
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Fuck Shinji. I hate that shitlord. I don't necessarily hate the show, nor the universe it created, but I loathe that whiny, narcissistic, autistic asshole. I've often imagined living in that world and how I would ruin him. I would find Asuka and woo h er, giving her the thing she craves, what she needs; a real man. Then as we begin fooling around I would have her call Shinji. When he answered, and he invariable would, I would begin to pleasure her, but I would also tell her to try and contain herself. As she would struggled to hold back the pleasure she would feel my dick would become hard as iron and I would begin to pound her like a fucking blacksmith. Not long after she would no longer be able to contain herself, at first moaning like a cat in heat that's been given ectasy, finally culminating in screaming like a mad woman, finally succumbing to the power of my girth. All the while Shinji would be sitting there, motionless, paralyzed by dread and despair. I would finish on her stupid face satisfied with the knowledge I ruined Ikari's life. He wouldn't kill himself, but not a day would go by where he wouldn't consider it.
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>>101943093
Nah... Despite everything Asuka still loves him, but is unable to admit that to him and is somehow conflicted by the fact that he's still acts like a kid. Girls mature faster so I guess that's normal.
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>>101943654
nah man, 4.44 shinji will accept his fate as the antagonist, kill misato for being a bitch, kill gendo for being a prick, rape asuka for being a cunt then strangle her then return to unit 1 with his mommy and 5th impact the fuck out of there
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>>101943654

Watch as its revealed at the end that Pen Pen was the orchestrator of all the events behind the scenes.
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>>101943706
Is this copypasta?
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>>101943749
Now that.... Would be fucking awesome.
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>>101943654
Is Sakura even listed to return for 4.0?
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>>101943849
>IT'S MARI TIME
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>>101943677
The alternative is you being a retard; I tried to give you the benefit of the doubt.

I won't make that mistake again.
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>>101943853
who knows man, I mean what the hell happened to kaji, toji and the other secondary characters
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>>101943749
I fell like I'm the only one who like 3.0 misato as a cool captain of a pretty cool crew. I wish we got Blue Submarine No. EVA with all of them instead of the shinji being sad some more.
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>>101943713
She doesn't love him at any point in EoE. She may still care about him but it's pretty buried under all her feelings towards him leading up to that point. It took Shinji trying to kill her just to bring out the slightly bit of affection.
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>>101943849

This is the best thing i've seen today.
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>>101943756

>that scene in 2.22 where he talks to the other penguins was really him giving orders to have them enact his schemes for complete dominion over their human oppressors
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>>101943602
>You don't try to kill someone because you're secretly in love with them.
You've never been in a relationship.
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>>101944009
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>>101943980
I take back my use of cool for misato. Looking at it again her coat is shit. Ritsuko's top teir though, and so are the two guys from nerv.
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>>101943980

>hey kids! looking forward to seeing what all these cool new characters are like in 3.0?
>well fuck you! have two gay kids eye-fucking each other while playing the piano for 40 minutes!
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>>101944105
Misato's original coat was pretty rad though, I'd wear it
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>>101943937
I'm sorry I poked some holes in your ship of choice. Just go read Re-Take again and you'll feel better.
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>>101944105
>Ritsuko's top tier though
Nope. Dykesuko looks like shit.
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>>101943980

Anyone else think the Ville crew's uniforms look kinda like pic related? They are after all a ragtag bunch of rebels.
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>>101943602
>implying it's not more of a love/hate relationship
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>>101944110
4.0 will have a hot springs scene where Kaworu returns from the dead. Pachinko said so.
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>>101943302
Fuck this shit made me laugh so hard I don't even know why
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>>101944220
She's got a pretty sweet jacket. And for all we know she could be the same ritsuko. Maya looks better too, maybe she learned to control her gag relfex after 14 years. Pink hair is the only one I truly hate.
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>>101944220

>hating the pixie cut

Pleb taste.
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>>101944290
I see the hate but where's the love?
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>>101943986
>slightly bit of affection
I don't know man. Coming from Asuka *this* was kind of a big deal. I doubt that would be her reaction would be so kind if she truly did not love him. I guess the "disgusting" was just Asuka being Asuka...
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>>101943422
Hey Eva faggots,
My name is Hideaki Anno, and I hate every single one of you. All of you are fat, disgusting, Lilin who spend every second of their day looking at stupid Asuka hentai pictures. You are everything bad in the world. Honestly, have any of you ever Watched rebuild? I mean, I guess it’s fun making those stupid theories because of your waifus, but you all take to a whole new level. This is even worse than jerking off to sleeping girls.
Don’t be like Rei. Just hit me with your best theory. I’m pretty much gonna destroy it in the next movie. I won Animage Anime Grand Prix award, and directed and writed over 12 movies. What prize do you have, other than “best waifu happy fanfic”? I also get straight 6 figures writing, and have messing up with the most interesting character(He just blew; Shit was SO cash). You are all otakus who should just kill yourselves. Thanks for listening.
Pic Related: It’s me and my bitch
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>>101944527
I always figured that was her reaction to Shinji jerking it from the hospital.
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>>101944274
I think they got the idea from something a little closer to home.
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>>101944546

>He just blew; Shit was SO cash
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>>101938832
Shinji's too old for it to be /ss/, and Misato's too much of a slut for a normal relationship.
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>>101944410
I doubt Asuka would have bothered to check up on him in the hospital after the incident with Leliel if she didn't care for him at all.

And if Shinji didn't care for her, I doubt she would be another one of the people he said he wanted to protect in EoE. Or bother saving her from drowning in the lava in the magma driver episode.

They're really just reminiscent of bickering siblings.
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>>101944546
>Kaworu's face
>not just putting Ikuhara
>not switching their roles
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>>101944527
It was enough to bring Shinji back from the brink of killing her but caressing someone's face doesn't automatically fix everything between two people. Especially when she follows it up by calling him disgusting and leaving him to cry.

>>101944684
Before everything tumbled down it was obvious they cared about each other. But then they both got tumbled hard.
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>>101944527

>you will never see this in real life

kill me
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>>101944567
Not sure if she actually knows about that. I mean, she was sedated when he jerked off. But, then again, she could have learned about that while they were Tang'ed.

But anyway, why would she be the only one to return? Just to torment torment poor Shinji for the rest of their brief lives on that godforsaken earth?
Anno can't be that cruel....

oh, wait....
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>>101944945
Some people just can't be happy.
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>>101938832
Because there is no pairing.
Misato will fuck anything and everyone, she's the very personification of the world slut.
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>>101945084
She's a tease. I don't think she actually fucked anyone other than Kaji
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>>101944945
Isn't it supposed that more people come back afterwards anyway?

I mean his mom literly says they have to reconfigure their bodies inside all that orange tang. so its just that we only see the starting part of mass resurection
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>>101945130
She sure behaves like she has.
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>>101944841
>Especially when she follows it up by calling him disgusting and leaving him to cry.
He jerked off to her while she was sleeping, out of all people, of course Asuka would call him disgusting.

>>101944945
>why would she be the only one to return?
Asuka was too individualistic and hated the lack of boundaries within instrumentality. And yes, that's where she found out about Shinji fapping to her, but that's also where she finally learned to understand him.
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>>101944945
In EoE he was in the train car with Asuka, Rei, and Misato and Asuka stood over him and mentioned knowing about him beating off to her in the hospital.
That could have just been apart of his mindrape though.
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>>101945160

>everyone dies again because the entire earth has been scorched and the oceans are nothing but LCL
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>>101945160
It's stated that other people have the ability to come back, but given how rusted over Misato's cross was, it's going to take a while if it took even Asuka that long to return.
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>>101945170
>of course Asuka would call him disgusting.
She also would understand exactly why he did it and how he felt after. Considering he just decided not to kill her a little bit of empathy would've gone a long way. Talk about twisting the knife.
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>>101945130
She's fucked literally everyone in the series except the kids and maybe the old dude.
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So can someone explain to me the relationship between Nerve and Seele? Or for that matter what Instrumentality is?
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>>101945315

Poor Fuyutsuki can't catch a break. Guy was probably looking forward to retirement soon before the whole world ended then gets duped into serving an organization bent on ending it all over again by the man who married his crush. Half of his appearances consist of him giving various cast members that vacant "please kill me" stare.
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>>101945209
the only part of the world thats scorched is the area that the third impact hit.

i mean sure everywhere else is gonna full of lcl but thats apparently primordial soup, im sure they can live with it

>>101945257
i don't think he was laying there that long (enough time for iron to rust) for her to show up. maybe it wasnt rust but just the fact that it been through alot and got fucked up on the way back to shinji. Plus apparently the entire lcl ocean level went lower since that time frame so that could imply that more people came out. just not in view
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>>101945390
Are you asking about the anime or rebuild movies? From my understanding they are somewhat different depending on which version.
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>>101945556
im asking about the one thats not shit
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>>101945311
Understanding someone does not necessitate that you condone his or her actions.

>a little bit of empathy would've gone a long way
Empathy is exactly what caused Asuka to react to Shinji the way she did.

>>101945522
It's incredibly vague and I think it was done on purpose to leave the ending up for interpretation. But that cross still sticks in my mind as being a tad out of place.
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>>101945556
I guess from the Original to EoE
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>>101945522
But, guys... LCL is made out of PEOPLE!
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>>101938832
>Misato loves Kaji and vice-versa
>too old for him
>Shinji never saw her as a MILF, just a mom
>Misato only came onto Shinji when she went a little depressed and loopy after Kaji died
>There's been 0 sexual tension from either of them, if we're talking Rebuild
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>>101945522
Well, people always assume it's rust but there are all kinds of tarnishing that happen to metal when it's exposed to ocean air
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>>101945682
Rebuild gutted all the sexual themes, except for the homo ones anyways.
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>>101945506
If he's up to it, she fucked him too. It's just when you get to be that age, your equipment doesn't always work as well.
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>>101941078
She has to put on a hard face since she's surrounded by people who wrongly hate his guts.

You know, herd mentality, peer pressure and all of that.
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>>101945682
>after Kaji died
He didn't just die. She betrayed and murdered him.
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>>101945773
It doesn't change the fact that she could have taken five minutes to actually talk to him.
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>>101945637
She doesn't have to condone it but she could have made an effort to forgive him, assuming she does love him. The caress is really ambiguous, it could be either her trying to express her feelings for him or self-preservation. The fact she immediately goes right back to regular Asuka makes me inclined to believe it's the later.
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>>101945782
What? Do you really, really believe she was the one that killed Kaji?
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>>101945725
Yeah, that's the point I was trying to make.
Sexual tension has been restricted to Kaworu and maybe Rei.
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>>101945833
>The caress is really ambiguous
The caress was the least ambiguous thing about that scene. This is Asuka we're talking about.
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>>101945808
Literly ALL the problems in nge could be fixed if people just communicated correctly. i think honestly this might just be a problem with japan or the fact that every anime script writer uses it as plot devices for conflict.
Any sane, normal, or even remotley human, human can communicate better than anyone in any anime ive seen
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>>101945725
Every time she tries to talk with him she's either

>interrupted by an attack
>too busy keeping humanity's last stand busy and preoccupied with orders.

Or maybe she's playing the Gendo game and doesn't want him to know all of the details for the sake of his own sanity or for the protection of others.
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>>101945885
So she decides to show affection when her life is in danger and then go right back to breaking him down? If this wasn't NGE this wouldn't even be up for debate but since it is I'm calling it ambiguous.
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>>101945390
Instrumentality is basically the destruction of individuality, in a way making humanity the proper last angel as one.
SEELE were the ones who wanted to set it up and NERV executed it.
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>>101942476
Which may explain why all the students in that class were "potential eVA pilots." They could have done the same if their mother's souls were in EVA units.
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>>101945808
But anon, If she did that none of the events from 3.0 would happen.

I appreciate that Anno finally decided to bring something new to the Eva movies, but goddamn... that was a shitty movie.
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>>101946015
The reason she shows affection is because it shows that she finally grew as a person and was willing to put aside her own feelings for the sake of somebody else's, which she was never capable of doing throughout the series. There was never any guarantee that caressing Shinji's cheeks would have even stopped him from continuing to choke her if self preservation was the goal.
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>>101946015
Considering how the series deals with 'meaningful' human interaction and that act in the greater thematic context of the film and series, writing it off as an act of craven self-preservation is astonishingly short-sighted.
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>>101946034
Then what the everloving fuck is an AT field?
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>>101946223
>and placing that act in
missed a word there, whoops
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>>101945808
Welcome to Eva, the series where people are incapable of talking to each other because they all have ridiculous mental issues.
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>>101946015
It has to do with the whole theme of human interaction being painful at times, but because it's real it's still worthwhile. Just because they stopped fighting doesn't mean they''re going to automatically go straight to being lovey-dovey with one another.
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>>101946206
>>101946223
I'm calling it ambiguous because we really don't know what Asuka was feeling at that moment. You can try and say that it was because she loved Shinji but that makes just as little sense as an act of self preservation in the context of the movie.

>>101946512
This was more or less what I was trying to say.
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>>101946644
>because she loved Shinji
I never said that she loved Shinji. I said that she understood him well enough to finally start being nice to him.

>because we really don't know what Asuka was feeling at that moment.
We also know how Asuka usually reacts when confronted with danger. Kindness isn't it.
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>>101946644
I'll definitely agree that jumping to any kind of romantic conclusions is a bit much, but framing it as an act of self-preservation requires just as many tenuous (at best) assumptions
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>>101946877
>finally start being nice to him.
I wouldn't even go that far. She really just tempered the hate Shinji was feeling for her. They could learn to be kind to each other again but they're basically back to square one.

>>101946935
I really didn't present my point well. In my defense I've been drinking.
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>>101947095
>back to square one.
For Shinji you mean. When has Asuka ever been shown to be genuinely nice to him in NGE?
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>>101947095
Well hell, I'll take slightly incoherent discussion over the normal eva thread fare.
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>>101946644
>This was more or less what I was trying to say.
If that was true, then your whole interpretation of that scene as Asuka trying to save herself is cheapened since it means people would only dare interact with each other only when their lives were at stake, not because they actually wanted to.
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>>101947196
Her earlier attitude towards Shinji was somewhat abrasive but by no means hateful.
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>>101947454
I mean, when has Asuka ever shown that she unambiguously liked Shinji without teasing him?
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>>101947339
I already said I did a poor job of trying to convey my point here >>101947095
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>>101947511
There's the scene after she gets off the phone with her step mother when she opens up to him before realizing what she had done and trying to save face.
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>>101947777
True, but she still hides behind her tsun as a cover for her feelings. My point was that the caress was the first time where Asuka bared her feelings without caring about how other people would see her, not the least this person being Shinji.
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>>101945725

And even then they removed the bro shower and all the explicitly gay lines.
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>>101947925
Well in the EoE scene she does the same thing right after by calling him disgusting. If she had really decided to open up she could have said pretty much anything else.
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>>101948044
There's nothing tsun about calling someone who masturbated to you while you were comatose disgusting.
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>>101948128
You can let some things slide when it's the end of the world.
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>>101948203
She's not the one doing the choking. At least, when we left off that is.
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