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Speculation thread on the Servants for Fate/Prototype: Fragments of Blue and Silver?

>What is it
Basically imagine Fate/Zero, but for Fate/Prototype, it tells the events of Saber's Grail War under Manaka.

Anyway, let's try and figure out who the Servants are. Except for Caster because we already know he's Paracelsus. And Rider because it's painfully obvious he's Ramesses II.

>has his own castle
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pi-Ramesses
>has a reality marble of beasts and his own sphinx
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wadi_es-Sebua
>has his own flying ship
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_deity#Solar_barge_and_sun_chariot (Pharaohs were living incarnations of Ra)
>refers to himself as King of Kings
He refers to himself as such in Percy Shelley's Ozymandias poem found here: http://www.shmoop.com/ozymandias/poem-text.html

So we still need to figure out Archer, Lancer, Berserker, and Assassin.

Any ideas?
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>>101931875
According to that last one, wouldn't Rider be Ozymandias and not Ramses?
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>refers to himself as King of Kings
So he's basically the Gilgamesh we see in Fate/Stay Night? He dresses better than Gilgamesh anyways.
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>>101931976
It's funny how OP's yet to answer this.
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>>101931976
>>101932248
Okay, I'll bite.

http://predoc.org/docs/index-208227.html

Ozymandias was what the Greeks called Ramesses II. They're the same guy.

>>101932206
Possibly, he sounds like he's got the arrogance to match.
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So is there any actual confirmation that Rider is Ramses II or is OP just talking out his ass with no backup?

That said, I'm more curious as to what the hell is up with Lancer. Saber doesn't recognize her armor at all.
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>>101932206

He's got a fucking a flying ship that can scorch the earth, a Reality Marble that contains a palace and Phantasmal Beasts of all kinds and a Divine Beast Sphinx.

Also he thinks he's big shit. He's basically Gilgamesh in personality department. Because Prototype Gilgamesh was less of an asshole in general. He actually respected Saber as his worthy rival and helped Ayaka when she was in danger, he's a cautious bro rival material.
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>>101932635

He calls himself Ozymandias, dude, quoting Shelley's poem which is what "Iskandar" is to Alexander the Great. A nickname.

He's got a fucking Egyptian temple RM and a Sphinx. What do you think?
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>>101932692
Did they just import Gilgamesh for this or something?
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>>101931976

That's like saying "wouldn't Zero Rider be Iskandar and not Alexander", you know right?
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What is this?
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>>101931875
This isn't speculation; just your shitty fanfic.
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>>101932781
>He calls himself Ozymandias
He does this in the light novel? When?
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Why are they writing the 4th war if the 5th one isn't written?
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>>101932961
Untouched material, I guess.
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>>101932793

Gilgamesh is in Prototype. He's just different in the personality department and fights in another world (the 5th). When Gilgamesh was changed from love triangle rival and worthy enemy who assists against the bad guys to NTR boss villain, his personality was revamped.
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>>101932961
I like to see what servants get turned into stupid bishounen.
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>>101932793
It does seem like the author had Gil in mind.

Having said that, I'm not very hyped for this Rider. I am curious about the other servants, though.
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How much of the Fate/Prototype OVA was actual old material, and how much of it was written after FSN?
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>>101933075
Paracelsus and (unless OP is spewing bullshit) Ramses the Great.
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>>101933145
The OVA was gathered from what was done. So probably next to none.

This is definitely being written with post F/SN laws in mind though.
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>>101932923

According to the wiki and Chinese forums, he tells people to refer him with that name. He's painfully Gilgamesh with a paintjob. He even boasts as he does.

Our first Gil clone.
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>>101933057
>When Gilgamesh was changed from love triangle rival and worthy enemy who assists against the bad guys to NTR boss villain, his personality was revamped.
I've heard F/SN Gil's personality was based on Proto Saber Alter and not Proto Gil? I don't have a reliable source on that, though, I heard it on /a/. So it could be completely bullshit, I have no idea. Does anyone else know if that's true?
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Fate/Prototype: Fragments of Blue and Silver

What?
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>>101933233
I remember it being said that Gil's design was based from proto Saber Alter. Never heard about personality, though.
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Lancer is female apparently. We don't know which servant, but OP is correct about Caster and Rider.

The Rin proto's father summoned Caster.
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>>101931875
Wait, there's a Prototype story being written? Guess I've been out of the loop for TM stuff.
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>>101933272
>>101933293
http://typemoon.wikia.com/wiki/Fate/Prototype:_Fragments_of_Blue_and_Silver#Adaptations
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>>101933228

The necklace reminds me to Zero casual Gil. Does he get his own Kotomine clone as fuckbuddy?
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>>101933324
Oh sweet. About damn time. There's only so much I can take of Artoria before it just gets annoying.
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>>101933340
It's pretty common in Egyptian bling. He has the bangles too.
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>>101933414

Who is his Master? Kyrie Minekoto?
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They said somewhere that a heroic spirit never actually had to exist, it just had to have a strong presence in people's minds or something. Does that mean you could summon Batman as a servant?
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>>101932692

Huh, I guess Arthur can kick his ass because he has Avalon (he passes it to Ayaka when he saves her).
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Why is the Nasuverse barely updated while there are a fuckton of spinoffs of parallel world grail wars? I'm getting tired of all this.
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>>101931875
I was actually looking forward to a pharaoh, but this rendition just irks me.
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>>101933510

Because it sells more than shitty vampires.
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>>101933555

Ramses II was always a punk with an inflated ego who thought he was the shit. So this portrayal is actually very true to him.
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>>101933465
No clue. That said if it is the Kirei clone, it's probably Sancraid.
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>>101933624

Sancraid isn't like Kirei though.
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>>101933557
They could tell us more about the first three wars or something. Maybe Fate/EMIYA. It could even be more Saber, that shit sells well.

Or what about something completely new.
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>>101933661
He takes Kirei's place in Prototype.
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>>101933662
> Maybe Fate/EMIYA. It could even be more Saber, that shit sells well

Why. Their stories ended. That's why all their appearances after their routes are cameos, plot devices or inane fanservice. Archer got a pass in CCC.
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>>101933414
>Doesn't wear a gaudy fur coat.
>Doesn't wear an ugly track suit.
>Doesn't wear ugly snake-skin pants
He looks better than F/SN Gilgamesh. Where Gilgamesh just had an arrogant smug look, this guy might could out do Gilgamesh just by his look.

>>101933510
It's because of Fate's concept.

>>101933557
You only have to deal with 'shitty vampires' in the first two routes.
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I thought Rider was supposed to be Perseus
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If Rider sings he'll be SOTY for me.

>YOU WHO I CALLED BROTHER
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>>101933692

He's more like Zouken.
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>>101933724
My problem isn't so much the sidestories, it's more about how they never update the Nasuverse.
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>>101933762
He is in Fate/Prototype.

This is a prequel to it.
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>>101933762

He is in the 5th war. This is the 4th war, where Saber was summoned by Manaka.
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>>101933827
>>101933830
Oh. Well then this'll be cool.
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>>101933786
In personality yeah. What I mean is role. He's the prototype for Kirei in that he's the priest/mediator with a Servant.
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>>101933724
>You only have to deal with 'shitty vampires' in the first two routes.

Then boring as fuck onishit nobody cares about.

Learning more about heroes and making heroes fight each others is more exciting than trying to give a damn about the other characters.
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>Anime adaptation when
>Carnival Phantasm with regular Gilgamesh and Ramses racing in their flying ships when
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>all these retards latching on to OP saying Rider is Ramses
Come on, /a/, I thought you were better than that.
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>Look upon my works, o undying heroes, and despair!

Apparently it's a quote.
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>>101933993

Bet you thought Saber was Joan of Arc.
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Archer vs Rider when? I want to see the battle of the world sized egos.
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>>101934194
>Archer vs Rider when? I want to see the battle of the world sized egos.
Someone mentioned a race between the two in a new CP season.
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>LN prequel of Prototype
They reaally want to make a full series i'm guessing.
Also Von Hohenheim caster, because why the fuck not
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>>101934194
>ArcherxRider when

fixed it
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>>101933414
>delicious brown Gil
Oh yes.
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>spinoff of a spinoff that isn't even finished
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>>101935480
>prototype
>spinoff

FSN is the spinoff
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F/E CCC adaptation never.

Which is probably a good thing.
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Archer is Odysseus.
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>>101936282
Source?
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>>101933662
I hope that one day we get the full story of the Third Grail War. One day.



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