I get chills every time I rewatch that scene
Her entire life's ambition and dream came to fruition.
That show is a huge middle-finger to morality.
I hope she dies of cancer.
Why so angry? It's just love.
I just finished this show a few days ago and loved it but -
>we love each other
>let's show our love and break literally every single one of our friendships
>I'm happy and this is all I've ever wanted
>just kidding, we weren't really in it for the long term, it was only temporary, let's have this weird ass "wedding" and then go back to being just brothers and sisters
I don't get it.
IT'S RETARDED LOVE
AND I'M NOT ANGRY
The biggest problem with the anime was the way the ending was obscured so much because the production company badly wanted to make an incest-free ending, but of course the author didn't because that was not how the work was written, so they came to the haphazard compromise of only including innuendo rather than directly saying it. What happens after the wedding is where this comes into play, because when Kyousuke uses that one request for Kirino to do whatever he wants to kiss her it was a roundabout way of him desiring for the relationship to continue. When Kirino responded demanding more life counseling when they got home, the very spark that ignited their relationship in the first place, which was her way of reciprocating Kyousuke's feelings, thus continuing their relationship.
So the anime ending was different?
It's been six months, right? This needs to stop, although I don't think it ever will. Ever since "he" blessed us with his story, /a/ and imoutos have just become too closely intertwined. Damn shame, because Oreimo left a bad taste in my mouth, and seeing these threads all the time just makes it worse.
who is he? been without net for a while, homeless.
In the LN:
>Kirino asks for a new ring using the excuse "It's fine because we're siblings"
>Kyousuke uses his wish to kiss her on the lips, mockingly repeating the excuse "It's fine because we're siblings"
>Kirino says they have to continue life counseling.
Yes, it was a bit different. It's supposed to convey that Kirino's 'plan' failed because they still love each other and Kyousuke isn't going to let go/let her let go.
It's sort of like when he dragged her back from America. She wanted to come home but was to stubborn to admit it, but Kyousuke helped her admit it. In this case she wants to stay as lovers, and Kyousuke helps her admit it.
The portion the anon explained wasn't really different from the anime but the anime presented it badly.
>thinking it is actual incest
>not the reconection of lost sibiling love
Kyousuke had played enough eroge/visual novels to understand were everything was going.
It feels really glossed over but I think if you think about it for a second they obviously didn't plan to keep that promise. I'm sure they both know there's no 'off switch'. I mean, why didn't they just tell Manami that it was only a temporary thing and telling her you're gonna break up soon anyways and avoid all the possible conflict of her spilling the beans to their parents?
Kirino repeated it a lot during the ep of his confession and it was mentioned into oblivion to Kyosuke that "This isn't an eroge, you know!" or "I'm not as cool as those eroge protags!" etc. so they took the mature and responsible approach and waited untill they were adults to pursue something.
Now that is a nice and straightforward way to put it. I think I'll use that next time.
I hope your situation improves, friend.
Their love grows forever.
So, what? After the ending and after they basically "tricked" all of their friends are they friendless now? Maybe they can still have a sort of mended and awkward friendship with Saori and maybe even Kuroneko but between Ayase and Manami? They fucked them over so hard. Everyone probably hates them.
Wow, what a fucking newfag, oral hygiene bro has been around waaaay longer then 6 months. Also how butt devestated are you? Cause it must be on a new scale. Either way fuck back off to reddit or whatever lame place has more shitty people like you.
from accidents into more accidents
Things are picking up actually.
Nah, Ayase knew it was coming. Idealogical differences will keep them from being friends with Manami. But I think it likely Manami will uphold her end of the bargain.
Kuroneko was still friends after being rejected once, so she'll still be with them she's probably still aiming for that threesome end.
>The night I sqealed like a japanese schoolgirl in a 3 inch skirt.
Saori and Kuroneko are still their friends. Hell the entire reason kuroneko broke up with Kyuosuke was so that he could be with his sister. Cause that's what he wanted, and in the end that is something she wanted, because she wanted to see both of them happy. Ayase is probably upset, but she'll come around soon enough.
Your constructive criticism is appreciated. Sorry for the miscommunication.
Who do you think was the new member in the Otaku Girls Unite mentioned at the end?
I hope it was Sakurai
I never imagined that their "love story" ended so smoothly. I'm a bit skeptic.
Nonetheless, I think I'll be spending the next three days to Valentine's reading the LNs.
Hopeful for no raging in my part.
oreimo 2 when
This is an oreimo thread. Although imoutos would definitely be welcome since Kirino loves them, I think you're directing your anger at the wrong place.
And /a/ has supported sibling pairs much longer than that.
Yeah, it's insane how the author just didn't give a fuck about Ayase. The extras hinting at Sakurai being the new member had me laughing.
I want to watch Kirino twerk.
I suspect that someone who looked like Ayase dumped Fushimi in the past.
Just, leave you're clearly having troubles with the cores of /a/. /a/ has been in love with imoutos for years now. I mean the only thing worst you could have said is do people actually have waifu's? You're just being stupid.
imoutos, onee sans. we've loved them for a long time. You're right anon.
I don't think he ever cared for her. She was suppose to be the bitch, can't accept that others like things I don't character from the start. So I don't know about you, but that wasn't too much of a surprise.
if kirino had a penis i'd let her fuck me
This is a reminder that Ruri Gokou is the the BEST in my little SisTEr can't Be this cute, and a miracle of the universe because she is a genius, loyal, unselfish, witty, brutally honest, funny, talented, a great sister and a great friend.
You've got a few grammatical errors in there, friend. That notwithstanding, I completely agree. As I said previously, /a/ has, indeed, been "in love with imoutos" (to borrow your phrasing) since OHB's glorious beginnings in 2011, if not before then.
They just wanted to have a 2D relationship but they new that it was very complicated to have a sustainable realationship based on onii-chan shit. It was quite autistic that everything ended when they "married" as they knew many visual novels or even eroges end like this so they wanted to have the perfect fantasy ending. I think Kuroneko and Sasori would understand more what was actually happening and Ayase knew sice kyousuke told her she loved another and she was ok with it in her own way.
I'm going to start with Volume 1, finally.
Hopefully, I can pull off the SHAFT rendition of the Oreimo anime series in my head perfectly.
well she isn't a fucking samaritan either
this would get anoying pretty quickly
I never laughed with her character except when she blushed but that is not her personality
In handiness and efficiency, but she can fuck up in many things. And her "deep and complex stories" would be terrible in my opinion.
>a great sister and a great friend.
She is a nice ne-chan but as little sister she would be wierd and not very cute. And I would grow tired of her edgyness in matter of hours so she is not a very good friend.
I'd say that the worst thing about the anime (not the LNs) is the world revolved around Kirino. Everyone, immediately after meeting her, follows her every whim. The only exception is Kuroneko, who only had so much development because of favoritism. For example, look at Kanako. She went from empty-headed cunt to proposing to date Kyousuke in an episode. She could've had some interesting development if she was even passingly mentioned more often. Or Saori, who hinted on a crush on Kyousuke, but was pushed out of the story to make more room for Kirino. Or even Ayase, who, despite getting some development, quickly admitted her feelings to Kyousuke and completely disappeared from the story. The only characters with developed personalities are the KKK, (Kirino, Kyousuke, Kuroneko) and even the latter two only serve as tools to bend to the wills of the former. In short, don't introduce a cast of potentially interesting characters, pick two or three to use, then make the rest two-dimensional plot devices.
Only in the anime. Even still, she's a cliched, boring character with fuck-tarded motivations.
There's not exist such thing as retarded love, you retard!
If you were any more wrong you'd be Manami.
>I'd say that the worst thing about the anime
Yeah, it's shit. The worst thing about the anime is that it adapted the material horribly. S2 has got to be one of the worst adaptations based on how it skipped material yet added filler and wanted the audience to suddenly keep up with all the developments that went on during the skipped material. It was built on top of a mess that was S1 and made an even bigger mess of the entire adaptation. In other words, the anime went from being a time management and overall adaptation disaster in S1 to being a tragedy in S2.
So you are saying that because the secondary characters were interesting it made the story worse? Ayase and Sasori which were the only real interseting "undeveloped" characters got their own episode which is more than enough to get immersed with the character.
Really Manami and possibly Ayase are the only friends they'd lose. Sena and the game research club supported them, Saori seemed cool with it, Kuroneko wants in on the action, Kanako and Bridget probably could care less if they ever figure it out and Fate-san and they others not in the anime are most likely in the same boat as the game research club.
Halfway into the first chapter of Volume 1 and Kyousuke already calls Kirino cute several times, although he calls Kirino a person that's so cute that she's virtually unapproachable.
It was depressing, eh? Between the Kuronekofags who made it, their terrible idea to make it episodic, the total cop-out at the end and the pointless filler, I'd say that they couldn't have made any worse decisions.
I don't know if I'm putting this into words right (English isn't my first language), but if you create characters you aren't going to use, at least make them one-offs. I'm not a waifufag, but I do think it would've been better to make characters that have no depth to them than characters that get shafted. It almost seems like a self-insert (Of course it is) to have women he's spent 5 minutes with (Kanako) fall in love with him
The others falling in love with him was unneeded to me. They could have been advisers rather than pathetic tests of relationship.
Precisely. They didn't need to fall in love with Kyousuke. It would've been better if it was a Manami-Kirino-Kuronek power struggle. Although, I do remember the only fun I had in S2 was that one scene where Kanako finds the eroge, and the various arguments in Kyousuke's apartment. If there were more scenes like that, the confessions would've been forgivable.That fucking scene where Kanako confessed to Kyousuke had me laughing due to how stupid it was
There is a difference between secondary characters and backround characters. Ayase and Sasori are secondary characters, who appear often, are entangled in the primary and main characters and have one episode or two dedicated to them. Backround characters such as kanako, bridget and kyousuke's parents are never really into the main problems but can cause conflict, though they usually just stay out of the main dilema.
I don't get how would you want bland character, I know it feels like you want to know more that shows the characters were very likeable and that the characters are good. The part were everyone confesses to Kyousuke was more comedic than actual canon. The only character that really was important was Ayase. The Kyousuke harem shit also functioned as a way of showing that he wasn't a romatic idiot and he could get a girlfriend but she wants his imoutto better.
Also, going to sleep. College. Have a /gsg/ sitposting image
Are we talking LN or anime now? Because in the LN Kanako shares more time with him. It's not a whole lot but it does help establish that connection.
Thinking about it, it's pretty much only Kanako that has little background to that development route. Ayase, Manami and Kuroneko got a decent amount. Saori's the one that doesn't really matter.
I think it was a way for the author to use that time spent on the other girls to his advantage and to get rid of Kuroneko relevancy by diminishing her status and screen time.
It worked out very well as every girl offers a viable, socially acceptable option that represents part of Kirino as well. It makes Kyousuke's decision a lot more meaningful since he actually turns down the girls for Kirino. He's not some nobody that is unloved by everyone. Furthermore, by this point both the audience and Kyousuke are attached to the girls. Had the girls not been likable or interesting to either, then that would simply take away from the story's presentation of the decision.
Kirino a shit
Also, before bed, wandted to give you a quick reply. Perhaps I was spoiled from the Lns, but I personally think the confessions of love were out of place, and were only there to further the Kirino-Kyosuke dynamic.
I was talking about the anime. I actually quite liked the LNs.
>I personally think the confessions of love were out of place, and were only there to further the Kirino-Kyosuke dynamic.
Sakurai made sense to be presented there after all those years.
Kuroneko was him rejecting her.
Ayase was basically a cliffhanger end for the volume and that's the volume where they spend a month practically living together. If it's gonna happen, it's was going to be right there.
Manami was forced and made sense as a last minute effort to stop him.
>I was talking about the anime. I actually quite liked the LNs.
I can't defend the anime. It was a mess and they should have cut Ayase/Kanako/Saori entirely. Had they added another 7 episodes then they would have had an important role to fulfill like in the LNs.
>Tamura Manami. My relationship with her, I should say, is that of a childhood friend who’s been unable to terminate the relationship.
>a childhood friend who’s been unable to terminate the relationship.
Incestfags have always been around on /a/, but they seem to be far more numerous and far more vocal than in years past. They've also become heavily prevalent outside of /a/. I say this as a militant incestfag, so I have no problem with it. I just think it is interesting that there seem to be so many more people who share my sensibilities than was the case 5 or so years ago.
Incest is the new gay
Actually, gay is the new incest, considering a lot of shows this season have yuri in it.
Anime got it backwards.
Socially, incest is the new gay, but in anime gay is the new incest.
man, the Opening songs still give me feels, even months later.
I will never forget the feeling of starting up an oreimo episode and how good it felt watching it.
this anime helped me through a hard time.
oreimo rallied them behind one banner.
I think you are onto something there. Nobody care about being gays anymore, it is basically mainstream. That leaves incest as the next great taboo to be tackled. Maybe in the next 50 years we'll see the legalization of incest? Isn't that what the Republicans have been saying for years anyway?
I look forward to it. As long as it's love it shouldn't matter right?
It isn't just the Oreimofags though. I see incestfags on nearly every board these days. Incest didn't used to be so popular outside of /a/ and /b/. I mean shit, /co/ has basically had an incest general on its front page for the last two months.
And their fervor was fueled by the canon ending in the LNs and the seemingly endless rage by other people at said ending.
Best ending theme?
Best ending theme.
yeah but not even sora had an impact vomparable to oreimo.
There's 4 separate Kirino threads right now. Four.
>“Well, just leave it to me.”
I never thought that I'd see this on the very first volume.
and she deserves every single one
To be fair:
And if you think four's a lot I don't think you were here when the final book was released. Or in the aftermath of the anime ending.
Just checked. They do seem rather supportive of Elsanna. That is interesting even though Wincest has been touted in western stuff before.
Pretty sure there were Katara Sokka shippers and I know people did that for the brother and sister in Wizards of Waverly Place.
you never heard of azula?
Don't tell me... "Azuko" or something like that?
yeah, big part of the avatar fags ships azula and zuko like crazy.
[/spoiler:lit]it is otp though.
I still love Ayase, no matter what.
And yet you post crappy Tumblr gifs about her.
but it came from google anon
If you really loved Ayase you'd make your own gifs.
Doesn't make it any less Tumblr or crappy.
>I look up into my sister's face, and with my thumb, I point at my own face.
>"Leave it to me."
>In my 17 years of my life, I've never said anything more unfitting than this.
>It's as if I'm her brother.
This is what I get for watching only the anime.
i feel ashamed of myself now.
Well, it does create long term societal problems, such as retarded inbred babbies. And of course, those parents are going to want taxpayer money to help pay for their retard inbred babbies..
>why didn't they just tell Manami that it was only a temporary thing
>"About that, actually we —!"
>Kirino was about to say 'our agreement,' but I raised a hand to stop her. Because the fight between Kirino and Manami had come to an end.
>Although I made an exaggerated comparison about this and a final battle, the truth was Manami was not a final boss. The last boss of this story, the enemy that we had to face had never showed itself.
Kirino tried to tell her, but it was obvious that Kyousuke never intended to let their relationship end. pic related. Whether or not Kirino felt the same way but was just in denial is up for debate to some degree, but I think that she mentally planned to give up on her love but was unaware/dishonest to herself of just how incapable she is of doing so.
Why is Kyousuke so based?
Here we go. Haven't had one of these arguments in a long time. And it's a nice slippery slope argument too.
Nobody said anything about babies. If anything the anti-progressive people argue that relationships are all about procreation.
With brother-sister incest, even if there is an increased risk of birth defects it can be managed. Maybe the government can ensure they don't have babies (incest babies are already happening, having more control sounds like a good thing). Maybe the couple will be able to take advantage of one of those designer babies I keep hearing about.
But that's no reason to stop them getting married you must agree?
Fushimi planned everything. Don't underestimate just how recurring the themes in the series are. Pay attention the hints dropped in the narration like "If I was my sister I would have fallen in love with me a long time ago" or "It's not like I'm doing this for her sake or anything", they can be really entertaining.
Oooh! So that's why he stopped her.
And here I thought it was because he didn't want to break the idealogical warfare.
He had a reason too. He wasn't going to say it was going to end, because he didn't actually intend it to.
Kyousuke, you're brilliant.
Yeah, you fucked up.
Well, it's impossible to know for sure just how much of it he planned, but literally all of his actions post-confession point to him not intending to give up on their relationship, the kiss being the most significant. Read the second half of Volume 12 again and you'll know what I mean.
As for Kirino, she's always believed that she can never be with him. She made that agreement as a compromise for herself, just like the times where she wanted throw out her love and get away from Kyousuke. She's prepared to do so because she genuinely believes it's impossible for them to be together forever, but Kyousuke forces her to realize it isn't over.
Notice the expression on her face when she runs off after he kisses her?
How much do you love her?
Fuck I am so excited for them to finish part 2.
Not sure how much he knows... Even Kyousuke was kind of creeped out.
Oh this is great. Watching the rest now, then waiting on part 2.
You'd think Kyousuke would be happier he finally got to the dere stage.
>the best girl
One day Kyousuke's going to find a box of condoms on his bed, thinking Kirino bought them.
Meanwhile tsundad will be blushing and avoiding eye contact for weeks.
Tsundad is so cool, he deserved an episode where he and Kyousuke went fishing together
It's weird how this theory has been gaining more ground and now it has actually been brought to our attention even more. It's like the author is among us.
Them building a cabinet together was great. I would be fine with more of him but there was no time for it in both LN and anime.
>not liking imoutos since forever
How new are you?
Only thing to top this train wreck is if Yozora won.