What should I expect from this show in spring? I've only just now finished the first manga series.
Is that the LN that is so fucking bad its good?
I heard the MC is the biggest gary stu in anime history.
Why not just read the LN and find out?
Ability list - enjoy. I laughed so hard I cried, this is how bad it is.
>Regrowth - Allows complete recovery of any form of damage/injury. It is not a form of recovery magic; instead, by reverse-reading the records of the Eidos, copying the past information of the target and directly overwriting it, he is able to make the injury "not have existed in the first place".
>Decomposition - Decomposes material into atoms. Has been used by Tatsuya to unarm hundreds of soldiers from their guns at once.
>Material Burst - Decomposes substances into pure energy following E=MC², almost like an atomic bomb. Actually produces more energy than an atomic bomb, as energy is not lost to collisions between electrons and positrons like in annihilation reactions.
>Elite martial artist by world standard. His physical ninja skills are so impressive people thinks they are spells, when they're just his natural parameters.
>Elite class strategist by world standards
>Incredible speed at releasing magic, elite of the elite by world standards. Can essentially eliminate the buffer time completely
>Nearly unlimited magic supply
>Eyes analyze magic, allows him to cancel spells.
>The worlds greatest magic technology engineer
>His crippling flaws are that he's merely "average" in looks and suffers from weakened emotions, making him the cool badass stoic character. He also is bad at baby tier spells, making people discriminate against him.
and i only read the first volume of the LN
and i heared it's only getting worse.
gary stu in every sense of the word. not just in terms of strength, but also in terms of the trope.
It should be noted that his healing ability is automatic and doesn't have to be activated by himself.
The best part of the gary stu MC is that everyone in the series acts like he's a piece of shit just because he's not a real magic user despite how absurdly overpowered he actually is. It's like they try to downplay it but there's simply no way to downplay his monstrous power.
Pre-picked and to be dropped each episode (kind of GC dropped chart list)
This shit is going to blow SAO, Guilty Crown, and Vulvarape out of the water with it's silliness and ridiculousness. Better buckle up motherfuckers.
We're in for one hell of a ride
Until he gets head shot, then it won't work.
Only works if he is still alive when wounded.
I'm so looking forward to it.
Too bad it's an adaption, so I doubt it will reach Guilty Crown level.
>He also is bad at baby tier spells, making people discriminate against him.
So his literal weakness is "too good at being the best"?
Is the mangakas parent's rich or something?
He is just another mc who's mother got raped by god.
It's a LN and he's friends with Rek, as far as I know.
>another mc whose mother got raped by god
Not this shit again.
Not friends. Work for the same publishers though, so they end up sucking each other's dicks anyways.
The females look bland.
>His crippling flaws
>merely average in looks
>suffers from weakened emotions
>making him a cool badass stoic character
This is worse then Kirito in the SAO LNs.
so how do the enemies / bad guys manage to threaten him? he just can't one-shot everyone all the time. Are they even more overpowered?
From what I heard from LNfags, there was one Chinese Assassin who managed to chop off his arm and could had killed him by decapitating him instead but didn´t did so because she "didn´t had the heart of a killer".
After that MC nuked the chinks...twice.
>Awful manga over the LN
Doing it wrong.
Wtf is the point of watching this? The only interesting development here would be to take all this shit away and watch him cry.
You're not watching Mahouka for the MC.
Almost everyone in the series is extremely overpowered.
I mean, at the beggining the show you that the "elite students" and the "shitty students" are divided in different groups, but as the series goes 2/3 of those "shitty students" end up being even more powerful than the "elite students". Most of them were considered shitty magicians because they are too lazy to show their worth, had some weird power that makes them don´t count as "elite students" or shit like that.
*were too lazy
I keep hearing it's shit, so I think my mind will be pretty much made up before it airs and I can concentrate on finding the flaws and ridicule the fanbase.
That copypasta was written up in a tongue-in-cheek hyperbole fashion to make him seem so gary stu, etc. Context is also missing.
That said, you don't enjoy the series for the MC, but for the setting, the very detailed world-building and complex magic system, the girls and interesting side characters.
There are well over a hundred named characters. At least 15 of them are stronger than Tatsuya. Most of the students are overpowered, most of the military characters are overpowered, most of the master clan members are overpowered.
The tone of the copy pasta doesn´t changes that he does those OP powers.
I read the manga and he is as Gary Stu as he looks like.
>Judging a book by trolls and/or various rumors ON /a/
*doesn´t change the fact that he has those
>end up being even more powerful than the "elite students".
Only due to asspull from the author.
I wouldn't be surprised if the author says Leo is actually a werewolf in the next volume at this point.
Not the same guy, but I judged it for the manga chapters I read and the information than LNfags gave me while trying to prove that MC isn´t Gary Stu and the LNs aren´t "Japan stronk, JAPAN SUGOI!"
You know anyone can do the same kind of copypasta for a really overpowered MC and just call them gary stu.
/a/ rarely ever gave a shit about OP'd MCs before and don't complain about them and enjoyed them for what they were in the past. But now they're bad because of the shitstorm that came out of SAO and trolls trolling and haters hating on Kirito thus all this gary stu calling that people do nowadays. It's ridiculous.
Nah the "chinese assassin" you're talking about is Lina, the "strongest" magician from murica.
He nuked the chinks twice though. One time 3 years before the LN starts and then in vol 6+7
The manga isn't that good compared to the LN, you know. MC is hax and overpowered. That's obvious and there's no denial there. If you think that's what makes a "gary stu" then there's no point in arguing since the definition of gary stu is so ill-used and defined, it's pointless and can be used for any character that seems competent, overpowered, hardly or never failing, or seemingly perfect at what they do, etc.
This bothers you when 98% of anime, manga, LN, etc are like that?
/a/ only hates shitty Gary Stus.
Funny Gary Stus like Izayoi from Mondaji aren´t insulted because they don´t take themselves seriously.
"I have a dark past, I don´t feel emotions, I´m so dark and edgy" Gary Stus like Kirito and Mahouka´s MC are the ones that /a/ hates.
>character that seems competent, overpowered, hardly or never failing, or seemingly perfect at what they do
What about a character that falls into all these categories, on top of the "I'm average" shit?
>2nd best sold LN in japan
You clearly weren't here when MDJ was airing. You know how many times we had threads calling Izayoi a gary stu? I was one of the ones defending him from trolls and haters who have no idea what they're talking about.
>"I have a dark past, I don´t feel emotions, I´m so dark and edgy"
Funny how none of this applies to Kirito and Tatsuya in the way you want them to. Kirito took a life and death game seriously. Who the hell wouldn't? He got depressed when it was appropriate and emotional about his love one when the time and placed called for it. He also knew how to enjoy the game and had some fun even the situation he was in. Tatsuya doesn't give a shit about having no emotions or brood over his past. All he cares is his imouto and bringing down the clan he belongs to. He goes acts like DtB's Hei, there's no trace of dark and edgy personality anywhere.
They're not like Sasuke or anything, ffs.
>If you think that's what makes a "gary stu" then there's no point in arguing since the definition of gary stu is so ill-used and defined, it's pointless and can be used for any character that seems competent, overpowered, hardly or never failing, or seemingly perfect at what they do, etc.
He doesn´t feel any emotions except love for his imouto, is one of the most powerful magicians in the world, is an excellent tactician, is the best engineer in the worlds and girls keep falling for him (the author ends up making them fall for someone else, but it changes little).
He is a motherfucking Gary Stu.
If he just had those OP powers (and considering how he got them), then there would be any problem since he would be the typical "average guy who got superpowers due to the some experiments" character, but you know that even without his powers he would still be a "perfect" character.
He can get shot in the heart and survive.
>He nuked the chinks twice though.
Why would he do that?
I think the biggest issue is that how the setting started. Then later it explains that well yeah the school is split like that, but it's still the most prestigious magic high school so even if you're getting in as one of the second class students, you're actually still a pretty damn talented magician compared to normals.
The problem is that this part of the explanation comes in like 4+ volumes in, and it makes a lot of the shit that came earlier seem really pointless.
I don´t have anything agaisnt Kirito. He is a Gary Stu but even so I enjoyed SAO.
>Tatsuya doesn't give a shit about having no emotions or brood over his past.
It doesn´t changes the fact that he doesn´t shows almost any emotions except those that make him look "cool" and I fucking hate that type of character.
Il ike guys who don´t lose their cool, but being unable to do so in the first place ruins it for me.
Mainly because China wants to assimilate Japan into the Asian Alliance. Japan keeps holding off because of alliance with US and other stuff but China did attack twice which is why they got nuked twice, both their attack forces.
Later on you find out that those attacks weren't entirely honest attempts and were more because of political maneuvering because of this one guy who is likely to be a coming big bad.
I think that's one of the biggest issues I have with the story is that it's like "oh you know that situation that happened two or three volumes ago? turns out there was a lot more actually involved but I never hinted at any of it".
Wish fulfillment is strong
Now all that season needs is SAO2 to air at the same time
>He is a Gary Stu
Man, don't insult Gary Stu's.
In the latest volume, he's HOLY FUCKING JAPANESE MAGICAL BATMAN.
I kid you not.
I don't get this. I honestly don't fucking get this.
Why do people like characters like this so much?
Where the only part of their personality is I AM THE BESTEST and instead of trying to make that character interesting even a little instead of character development, they just throw on more super powers on the asshole. Is this what people like? I'm reminded of Kira Yamato from Gundam SEED Destiny. Let's make him a Commodore even though he never leads anyone into battle and just smashes things. Why? Well, he's a cool character, so he should have a super high rank!
Jesus H. Christ, is that all people want out of characters these days? For them to be DA STRONGEST AND PRETTIEST? Is it really that hard to write a well-rounded character anymore? It makes me pretty fucking sad that for as basic as a character as Son Goku is, him being the strongest of his peers doesn't make my stomach churn unlike this horseshit. Maybe because Goku can't fix every problem by punching it in the face, and the character routinely is inhibited by limits of his own ability.
What the fuck is going on with these fucking Light Novels? This is second-rate garbage. This is how a little kid would make a 'cool' character. This is that little asshole that would say GUN or SUN or METEOR when you're playing Rock, Paper Scissors because he can't win.
I'm trying to process as to why someone would write all this shit into one character, and to think of it as a good idea. It just comes off like a fucking circlejerk, and a big sign of the crap that's to come on.
>You know anyone can do the same kind of copypasta for a really overpowered MC and just call them gary stu.
Batman is sometimes a Gary Stu.
Hasn't SAO2 been announced? Phantom Bullet, it's called.
TBH, taking out the Gary Stu'ness of Kirito being Kirito, best girl in SAO franchise is coming.
If Mahouka ever ends up outselling Slayers and Guin Saga I'm going to be very sad.
Look at this shit /a/
Look at it
Who the fuck acts like that? IM IN LOVE WITH ONII CHAN
WHY THE FUCK ARE YOU IN LOVE WITH ONII CHAN
THAT'S YOUR FUCKING CHARACTER
THAT'S ALL THE CHARACTERS IN THIS FUCKING SERIES ARE DEFINED BY
THEIR RELATION TO GARY STU
THEY EITHER HATE GARY STU AND WANT TO FUCK HIS SUPER SPECIAL RICH WAIFU
OR THEY WANT TO FUCK GARY STU BECAUSE THEY'RE SUPER SPECIAL WAIFUS THEMSELVES
EVEN LEONHART IS DEFINED BY HOW HE WANTS A SUCK OF TATSUYA'S COCK
I HATE THIS
THESE CHARACTERS AREN'T HUMAN FUCKING BEINGS .
Why do you think people still rewatch shows?
Japs have already crossed the line and we will never come back.
Of course not, they are just anime characters.
He's saying that SAO2 needs to air at the same time, for that season to be "complete" with wish-fulfillment.
Wow, what the fuck is this steaming pile of excrement?
Who is the female character next to the overpowered MC?
That depends on the writing and execution, and you know it. Look at NEEDLESS's Adam Blade. Having some of all of those traits doesn't make a character automatically bad.
If you actually read the LN, you'd know that is irrelevant. He's an irregular, not average, since the magic standard measures him as that because his two born specialized magics dominates his magic areas, making all other magic average and low in usage.
>doesn´t feel any emotions except love for his imouto
And this is bad how?
>one of the most powerful magicians in the world,
Yeah, one of.
>an excellent tactician
Trained for years and is part of battalion under a great commander.. His master who taught him how to fight. Both these guys can even beat the MC.
>best engineer in the worlds
No, just one of the great engineering "genius" for CAD SOFTWARE to have developed something that hasn't been developed yet. Tatsuya doesn't actually make materials or craft them, he has said he can't do that. But it when it comes to CAD software, that's what he's a great at.
>girls keep falling for him
Welcome to harem.
>average guy who got superpowers due to the some experiments
You really haven't read the LN at all. He didn't get powers from the experiment. He was born with his two magic already. The whole point of the experiment was to make him into an actual magician (defined as someone who can alter eidos and use the 8 system of magic). Tatsuya was considered a detect because he can't use any magic besides his two BS magic. The experiment wasn't a success since it only allowed him to use average tier spells and below, plus it left him with nearly no emotion except the one his mother gave to protect his imouto who's going to be the head of the Yotsuba in the future.
>Trained for years and is part of battalion under a great commander.. His master who taught him how to fight. Both these guys can even beat the MC.
Isn't he 15? And didn't his master already tell him he could beat him, in the very first book..?
I mean, I wouldn't mind if there's a powerful MC who's kinda young. But I would rather he actually progresses to that stage. Not start off when he's already god.
The "a guy with a sword can fight guys with guns" thing is going to cause such a shitstorm...
Why are you defending the next SAO?
I like them.
Who is she?
Aren't we already used to OP sword users who can beat modern armies?
>And this is bad how?
Characters that only has "cool" emotions are shitty characters. You either make them normal guys or made them have no emotion at all, like Yin...and even son that kinf of character sucks as an MC.
>You really haven't read the LN at all. He didn't get powers from the experiment. He was born with his two magic already.
And you killed the only thing that could had made me like Mahouka´s MC
You talking about Antimagic academy? At least it makes it a point that to do so is incredibly straining and that you literally have to be a monster to so.
>This bothers you when 98% of anime, manga, LN, etc are like that?
The amount of japanese nationalism in this series is waaaaaay more than you see in other ones.
Like, the only american strong enough to even stand on the same playing field as the MC is that strong entirely because she's part japanese and uses super special japanese magic.
Chinese magicians are treated as something between mooks and shit.
Japan can basically detonate nuclear weapons at will and instead of getting MAD'd to glass, everyone is too scared of pissing them off to do anything.
Yeah, but a guy running directly towards someone shotting him while doing nothing but cut the bullets with his sword or letting them impact agaisnt his body is a bit...
Tatsuya is currently 17 in the LN. 16 during 1st year.
Not really. His master can still beat him if he tries. Same for his commander. It's said that's without his Trident CAD though, but Trident is something he needs permission to even use since it's like walking about with a nuke. Not good to use in a city or anywhere near a population.
I was talking about SAO S2. It will be in a shooter MMO but Kirito is autistic and uses lightsabers instead of guns.
Are you Chinese? It's that, isn't it?
Obviously. Who else would look badly upon japanese gary stu-kun?
Is the LN as bad as the manga? I couldn't keep reading after the first arc, it was very badly executed. This is coming from someone who liked SAO, so I don't understand how it's popular.
Tatsuya just wants to love/care for his imouto and get rid of that bitch aunt of his. Enjoying school life, getting into harem-like situations here and there, helping out at his school, killing anyone who is a remote threat to his imouto with pew pew beams, and nuking China are all just troublesome matters that he gets caught up in. Leave him alone, you guys ;_;
>instead of guns
You know he has a sword too, right? Of course, you will continue to forget about this, even while Season 2 is airing
Meanwhile, his imouto has trouble not jumping on his dick at every opportunity.
What? I suppose you meant "he has a gun too".
And yes, I know he does...but the only thing he does with it is shoot like some crazy mexican bandit.
Don´t get me wrong, I´ll enjoy just like I enjoyed S1, I´m just saying that it will cause a shitstorm.
I'll be honest with you. I haven't read the LN past the second book, because of how terribly worded everything is, because of how the translator did a direct translation, and everything sounds unnatural as fuck.
You can expect Madhouse to ruin a nice LN with shitty animation.
Only read some of the manga to understand that it's purely NATIONALISTIC NIPPON STLONG, but isn't his "main" weakness that he's bad in terms of raw magic power?
>a nice LN
Didn't you mean the opposite?
nah, his raw magic power is off the charts. He can't use it as flexibly as normal magicians cause his OP powers eat up too much brainspace.
His fallback mook disabler, gram dispersal, is just him emitting a huge amount of magic to disrupt everyone else's.
His 'weakness' is that the way he uses his powers is the only one that isn´t measured when they decide if you suck balls or not...or something like that.
I think they don´t count Execution and Execution is the only thing he does.
No. It's a very enjoyable story. It's better than SAO, which was very successful.
Madhouse, however, have fallen to be the worst animation studio currently in Japan and will not be able to do it justice.
The best Rek had to say about him was that he wrote a lot.
HxH says otherwise.
>I wouldn't be surprised if the author says Leo is actually a werewolf in the next volume at this point.
That would improve the quality of the series considerably.
Is the kendo girl still relevant later on?
She has a serious case of best girl.
What do you mean harem?
As far as I know, 2 girls are only interested in him
He's actually even more overpowered than this post suggests.
It goes crescendo as the story progresses.
Ah, yeah, I meant he also used a gun. derp.
And yeah, there's going to be shit flying once that comes around.
Which is amusing, because you don't normally say "He wrote a lot," as a compliment, regarding a series that was 2 years old at the time (As a web-novel.)
The who wanted to fuck MC but ended up with some random guy who was to beta to tell her he was in love with her?
And 20+ other shows
Not really. Tats' magic power is up there, very up there. But his imouto's magic power is enormous compared to Tats's magic power. Miyuki's own magic power is strong enough to seal Tats' magic power, and even with her magic power being used to suppress Tats', she's still top tier as a magician.
As expected of a clan that uses human experiments and unspeakable breeding/inbred to produce the best magician possible.
Tats' weakness is that he can't properly use other magic besides decomposition and regrowth. There's a chip in his brain from an experiment his mother and aunt did on him that was supposed to allow him to use other magic normally, but that failed and he can only use other magic of 5 verse or lower. But the upside is that he can instant cast 5 verse magic and lower because of how the chip works. In FS/N terms, 5 verse is like rank C in magic and lower.
Almost all the girls in the cast had chased his dick but ended up with random douches because MC was too cool for them.
Holy shit, this is just like some deviantart original character.
Don't know, I'm not that far yet.
I only picked it up yesterday and I'm reading ridiculously slowly, because I can only take so much Onii-Sama at a time.
We are talking about recent shows.
If his sister wasn't blocking half his power, he'd be a walking extinction level event.
His family, which knows all about his powers, treats him little better than dirt because of what is probably the most insanely stupid human resources decision in history.
The Onii-Sama is funny once she goes full yandere.
Another person bites a trollish copypasta.
The one from the first arc that worked with Evil Glasses Random Villain
Then make that atleast 5.
Say what you want but he does has those powers
He's a strategic-class weapon. He can single-handedly annihilate a country in mere seconds.
He's one of the top 10 magicians in the world.
He can kill all life on earth and probably take a good swing at blowing the planet apart completely.
Not entirely true. It was mentioned that his family other than his aunt and a few of the higher ups do not know his full abilities. Most of them just know him as the failure son of the main house that couldn't even use magic despite the experiment and was forced into being a guardian.
Basically you know who from the family knows the truth of his abilities if they're actually respectful to Tatsuya all the time. That's just the Aunt and her personal butler really and I guess Miyuki. I don't count the younger kids like the cousins.
Let's not exaggerated. Miyuki is stronger than Tatsuya in magic power but her AoE range isn't even big (around 30ish targets in a sweep). Tatsuya with his seal off could probably decompose a huge building, but that's probably it.
MB is a different story and we don't know how that really works.
The sister is actually a bigger mary sue than the MC.
The show has more emphasis on Japanese nationalism than Infinite Stratos and MuvLuv combined.
MC gets a harem.
If MC is ever weaker than anyone, they eventually want his D anyways.
>one of the top 10 magicians in the world
That has never been stated in the series ever. He's one of the 40ish strategic level magicians in the world but being a strategic level magician just means you're basically of the walking nuke class and requires careful handling. His commander could beat Tatsuya and his master as well as his Aunt but none of them are strategic level magicians.
The bigger issue is honestly Tatsuya still hasn't been given a legitimate threat which is honestly fine since direct combat for Tatsuya isn't really an appeal of the series. Also Tatsuya tries to stay away from situations where he'd have to use his powers since his main duty in life is just protecting his sister.
Hopefully he'll kill Maya and get even more powerful with Hliðskjálf
>He's one of the top 10 magicians in the world.
If he decides to nuke the world I doubt his master, commander or aunt could do much about it.
>Regrowth - Allows complete recovery of any form of damage/injury. It is not a form of recovery magic; instead, by reverse-reading the records of the Eidos, copying the past information of the target and directly overwriting it, he is able to make the injury "not have existed in the first place".
>Elite martial artist by world standard. His physical ninja skills are so impressive people thinks they are spells, when they're just his natural parameters.
>Elite class strategist by world standards
>Eyes analyze magic, allows him to cancel spells.
>The worlds greatest magic technology engineer
So he's basically Nanaya Shiki, Arcueid Brunestead, Emiya Shirou, Kamijou Touma, and Bruce Wayne combined?
LN are fanfiction tier. Middle and High schoolers buy it.
If fanfiction.net started publishing fanfiction in book form, I bet something like: "Sasuke Bleeding: Absolute Darkness" would be the best selling fanfiction.
Except that would serve no purpose for Tatsuya. His overriding duty is protecting his sister, nuking the world goes totally against that goal.
It's shitty fanfiction level bullshitting. It's like saying Goku could destroy Earth if he wanted to win a fight with someone. Well yeah sure he could but it's something he'd never do so why even consider it.
He's still smarter than any of those. He's one of the world's best engineers and programmers.
>The sister is actually a bigger mary sue than the MC.
That's rather creepy, when you mix the brother-lust and snotty elitism into the "super-powered Grace Kelley" character template.
Are there women who actually identify with her?
You're thinking about his Material Burst magic. That doesn't rely on magic power, I believe. That has more to do with E=MC², decomposing matter into energy. if you take that magic away, he wouldn't be a strategic class magician at all.
What's the point if that'll only make enemies and probably ruin the plat thus hurting his imouto?
So he's also Tony Staark?
>Smarter than Bruce Wayne
Bullshit and you know it, man.
I just pointed out that if he rank him according to his powerlevel, then he is probably the strongest magician.
>if you take someone's magic away, then they wouldn't have powerful magic anymore
No shit Sherlock.
Also try to remember that he "created" this magic and engineered the special equipment required to do it, it's not something that was given to him.
Can't be Tony Stark without a rampaging alcoholism problem.
It´s not created for women to self-insert but for men to get a boner with that "powerful but absolutely loyal to her Onii-chan" kind of character.
>smarter than batman
No way bro
Does he have prep time though?
I thought I was only going to hate Tatsuya, but at this rate...
I thought Tatsuya is a CAD software genius? More programmer than engineer, no?
Imagine Batman with infinite preptime.
Brainiac and Metron are smarter. I'd say Lex Luthor is on par with Bruce as well.
>decompose a huge building
into pure energy.
Let's do a little math. From a 5 second google search, it seems the weight of the world trade center (110 floors) was 500,000,000 kilograms. Let's take a building 1/5 that size (20 floors) - 100,000,000 kilograms.
Using e=mc^2, c=3x10^8, m=1x10^8, we get 9x10^24 joules of energy. 1 megaton is 4x10^9 joules of energy. That's 2.25x10^15 megatons of energy being released all at once.
To put that into perspective, the dinosaur killer asteroid was 4.2x10^23 joules. He could detonate something an order of magnitude more destructive.
If I make a light novel about my Sonic OC, will it become best selling in Japan?
He, of course, has a loli blood-related sister who is in love it him and harem of archetype personality girls.
Looks like Watanabe Mari. She's the head of the Public Morals Committee. A decent magic-style swordsman.
lets keep this humans only when you get on cosmic scale Bruce and Lex both aren't that high when you compare to those types.
He is, he has that lab and more specifically that one head scientist of the lab to handle the hardware side of things for him.
Did you include the two planes in those 500,000,00 kilograms?
You know, Demonbanes' list can go for pages and pages after it goes full elder god and somehow I still smile at the mention of it, this guy though, bloody hell, he's one of the dullest MCs I had the bad luck to witness and neither the rest of the cast or the setting manage to make me interested in continuing to read either the LN or the manga.
Whiners always seem to forget that these authors always make fun universes that are well thought out to put their characters in. That's the appeal of stuff like SAO with its MMO gaming basis and here with the 'fantasy magic as technology' thing.
You need a lot more than just a mary sue to get your terrible fanfiction to sell.
The main character is hilariously overpowered. It's basically like a superman story, shit goes down and he comes in and saves the day with some help from his friends.
I've read all the LNs but the most recent one and I liked them as long as you don't have any sort of misapprehensions about just how overpowered he is then you should find it pretty entertaining.
No, people don't like Sonic. The only people who do are just some bizarre internet cult masquerading as a "fandom". Though if you just write a generic all-powerful, but misunderstood bishounen you'll probably strike gold.
they were a rounding error.
I thought all the edgy kids loved NIN.
Let me get this straight. The guy is a planet buster, an omnidiscplinary scientist/engineer, wields the most destructive form of magic ever, has ridiculous innate magical potential, is the best martial artist in the world, is possible the best strategist in the world, and has a harem on top of that but only wants his sister's pussy?
And Japan actually likes this?
The thing I don't get about Mahouka is that the world is extremely boring, the characters are generic and boring, and nothing interesting happens.
I had already decided that I will do just like SAO. I will set my suspension of disbelief at its maximum level, accept the things that I consider stupid and enjoy the good parts of the show...like the delicious imouto.
>His commander could beat Tatsuya and his master as well
Only in close quarter combat with zero intent to kill each other
I bet you found SAO 'entertaining' too.
His super abilities are national secrets, so he's not allowed to use them normally. He could shortcut past the normal magic method with his hax, but since he goes to school and shit he has to use it. When he was born he could only use reconstruction and deconstruction which technically isn't "magic" it's just a bullshit hax ability. So they hacked into his brain to give him the ability to do magic, but he still sucks at it and it also emotionally cripples him.
Pretty much everyone has figured out his superpowers at this point in the novels so it doesn't really come up.
He's not a strategist. I'm not even sure why that's in the list of powers.
Maybe if the narrator doesn't speak more than the actual characters in an episode.
>That would improve the quality of the series considerably.
I can't tell if you are sarcastic or not.
Mist Dispersion, not Material Burst. He could probably MD a building. for MB, we haven't seen him do anything larger than a bullet.
The anime is entertaining and the LNs are great.
Is the only harem I know that was done correctly.
That's exactly like the manga, and even then it's great. Last episode and the Netero episode have been the best episodes in anything this year.
His abilities aren't considered "magic" in the series, magic being specific alteration of phenomea. All he can do is break them down and understand them very well. Which makes him shit at casting magic overall since he lacks the power to do so, but he can do what he can do really well.
>for MB, we haven't seen him do anything larger than a bullet.
The chinese fleet in korea says hi.
>rabid japanese nationalism
>character is a deviant art character
i'm tempted to watch this now just to see how much it will make me rage.
I did, you have a problem with that faggot?
Just because I think it's a good waste of time doesn't mean I don't know it's pretty shitty for a multitude of reasons.
>dislikes: trent reznor
And then there's Kirito
>Has Super Human Reflexes
>Knows where to hit any weapon to break it in a hit or two (given that weapon-level differences aren't too high)
>Has Dual Wielding, which was a Skill set specifically designed to fight the final boss. It comes with a number of double-digit hitting skills, 1 of which was able to take out over 2/3 of a Boss's health
>Prolonged his death-sequence, long enough to stab Kayaba, and "die" at the same time.
>Thanks to his Reflexes and speed, can practically OHKill most people.
>Can connect sword-skills together to ignore the stun, that normally hits afterwords, (supposedly only able to sometimes do this)
>After playing GGO, learns how to destroy spells, because sword-skills have elemental attributes, and "spells will never be as fast as bullets". No one else can do this, despite trying for some time.
>Was able to activate sword-skills, before they were implemented (Anime-only)
>Reflexes let him move his sword in the way of the "bullet-prediction line", to effectively block bullets
>Can "predict" the "bullet-prediction line", by looking at where someone is aiming, and at their eyes.
>Can... bring dead flowers back to life?
>Has a wooden sword, made from a 300 year old demon tree, that ate all the resources in its surrounding area.
>Said sword, when "released," turns into a barrage of branches, that eat all magic.
>His sword can also turn people into trees
>Obtains a 400 year old sword made of eternal ice, that's able to freeze 30k Koreans (while at the same time, avoid freezing the hundred-something allies he has, mixed in the crowd)
>Grows wings at will, with the Incarnate System (Isn't this what Sky Raker has been trying to do for years, and Kirito does it in a few seconds?)
>Rules Underworld for 200 years, with his Goddess Waifu, establishing world-peace, and making space-travel within UW.
>Isn't an emotionless cunt
I enjoyed SAO, and I know how ridiculously overpowered he gets
Nine schools competition I would assume is the basis, all the people using his tactics are described later on as "invincible" by people from other schools
Don't worry too much about the lore though guys! They will explain it all as necessary. And in excruciating detail. And when there's something more interesting like a fight scene supposed to be happening. And over and over again.
I felt more tension watching Goku fight Freeza than watching everyone battle the ants in HxH.
The narator's monotone voice just breaks all sense of tension and it feels like you are watching some history channel documentary due to how his droning voice breaks all sense of immersion.
Not that guy, but SAO is entertaining, fun, and pretty nice for a cathartic read. The better volumes are after volume 1 and 2. Volume 5 and 6 are good, volume 7 is probably the best one yet because of Yuuki.
>He's shit at magic
>He's fucking great at totally not magic
I bet you're the kind of person who tries to defend the Vanadis MC too.
At least Kirito has actual flaws even if they don't really matter.
Tatsuya's 'flaw' is that he isn't capable of expression his emotions so instead people just see him as a stoic badass. Oh, and I guess he's 'bad' at entry level magic, but he can do shit like destroying the earth to compensate.
What the fuck.
where did i say i was defending him? that's just the explanation given in the novel
god this is going to be a bigger shitshow than SAO and Attack on Titan combined.
Do you even know what you're saying? He used MB on a water droplet. That's smaller than a bullet.
I think that's irrelevant.
Hagure Yuusha No Estetica was cool and fun to watch despite an overpowered MC who can't wield "magic" but can do something very similar. If you list his powers he'll look overpowered too.
He used MB on a flag weighing several kilograms. And it was effortless for him. At least try to actually read the shit you're talking about.
The sad thing is that it really would.
Without ridiculous bullshit magical beings this entire struggle is more or less pointless in the face of Onii-sama.
>His crippling flaws are that he's merely "handsome"
He is just average when compared to his sister.
Watching for the incestuous undertones.
Will drop if it doesn't push the incest hard enough.
Well, Kirito's flaws DO matter in a few situations.
Like his persistence in trying to do everything alone, and make sure everyone else is safe.
But generally speaking, Kirito is just "a human who's good at video games", which happens to be what the story focuses most on.
The little sister wants it hard, all right.
But what I'm trying to say is that people will defend him, by saying they have flaws like "Can't use magic", when it doesn't matter because he basically can.
Hagure Yuusha was different, because he had flaws like "Being a complete asshole", and "pissing off everyone he comes in contact with."
The difference between those types of MC is that one embraces the gary stu trope and has a good time (ie. Rance) whereas self-inserts like Tatsuya are meant to be taken seriously with the author bending over backwards going
>Hey look, he's not actually a gary stu, he has flaws too! Look here!
It's the intent and tone that matters, and Mahouka takes itself very seriously.
>pissing off everyone he comes in contact with
Yeah but somehow making them all his friends or falling in love with him, including the lesbian.
I'm looking forward to the Iwasaki OST.
It's funny I didn't care about anything until this, now I just know this is going to be boring.
>But generally speaking, Kirito is just "a human who's good at video games", which happens to be what the story focuses most on.
That's the thing. Someone like Yuusha from MaoYuu is much stronger, and has a much longer list of bullshit, but the story isn't about Yuusha going around beating people up. If the story was about Kirito attempting to use video game economics to fix the real world, I would watch it.
Wonder what the reaction will be to when Miyuki "kills" him out of jealousy early on.
The novel goes into frequent internal monologues of Miyuki, where she describes in detail how she wants to seduce her brother and completely belongs to him, but doesn't cross that line because they are 100% blood related proven-by-dna-evidence.
also the only emotion tatsuya has left is loyalty
Hmm, you're right, he did used it on a flag. That was after his MB on the water droplet. But it wasn't several kilograms, but "approximately 1 kg."
You forget that SAO has the whole "it's a virtual game I don't gotta explain shit" to hide behind. Mahouka doesn't.
except for the fact that it's about fucking magic?
I didn't say they stayed pissed.
He wasn't even that great of a character, just a more fun to watch one because it was a change. I dropped it after episode 6 or so.
No it's specifically love for his sister. Loyalty is a kind of different emotion. He can also feel other emotions if they are through that one. Like he can get really fucking angry at anyone who tries to hurt Miyuki.
Even then you have to acknowledge the discrimination is a kind of a flaw (like mudbloods in Harry Potter).
My main point is that the bad writing goes beyond a list of Gary Stu traits.
And I would rather a season 2 of Hagure. That guy was hilarious.
Mahouka does explain stuff (mostly in volume 8). It also loves its technobabble.
Well he can still register things like mild annoyance
Don't think the author cares much about economics, however, the last arc of SAO has a lot of tones, regarding the rights of sufficiently sentient AI, and the ethics of using them to bomb other countries (or use them as weapons at all)
If we got a second season of Hagure, we'd actually get into the explanation of what happened during the years he spent in the fantasy world and how he became the rogue hero, etc.
does he make more girls piss themselves?
Yeah, in the end it comes back to the writing and what the intent of the character is.
I'd personally discourage a Mary Sue hunt, because people don't even seem willing to look deep enough.
If it's any consolation, the MC is more or less like Darker than Black's Hei with this fake persona, but less cheerful and energetic. He'll see him smiling, getting angry, and whatnot but it' not real emotions, but emulated emotions. But it seems like his real emotions have been throwing a bit. It's possible his experiences with his friends and events that has happened him developed or restore the part that were broken. We don't know for sure, but it just seems that way.
>defend the Vanadis MC
Tigre is at least fun to watch and that's all I'll say on the subject.
But its still done from the context of within a game, where he's the best at everything. I meant that a character who's bullshit in their element can still be interesting out of it.
A carpenter with a fucking amazing hammer and no other tools is still a fucking amazing carpenter if all the problems in the world involving pounding in nails.
Whereas you can Kirito is a Gary Stu within the confines of virtual reality, he is much less so in real life. The LNs portray him struggling physically against other opponents in real life. You can hardly say the same for Tatsuya (Mahouka MC)
What i'm hearing from you is 'yes'.
He still has all his emotions technically but he can only feel them at mild levels. Like if emotions went from values of 1-10, he can feel everything at about a 1-3 level or so, only the love for his sister goes from 1-10.
the problem I have with this pasta is it is cherry picking things to make it seem worse than it really is.
>love for his sister goes from 1-10.
>not being jammed at 11
Wasn't that the scene where she came into his room and he molested her in his sleep. That was in season 1, just toned down.
I found Hagure's MC obnoxious. He's no Kazuma at all, just plain obnoxious. Tatsuya is like a mix of Hei and Kazuma with some Batman, and I don't find him obnoxious, but enjoyable for the most part with a few grating exceptions aside.
I think that is the whole point of it.
I'm not gonna lie I picked up the LN based entirely on that list and was not dissapointed. It exaggerates like 1 or two things, tops.
Welcome to pasta, enjoy your stay.
I forgot to add:
and people seem to take it at face value.
I can't wait to see if they open with a narration about how "perfect" the world is now and how most of our world's problems have been solved because magic.
>Hei and Kazuma
But those characters are total opposites who are likeable for totally different reasons. Kazuma is likeable for being human, wild, arrogant, laid back, and kind of a dick. Hei is likable for being a stoic, mysterious, un-relatable, and driven.
The only redeeming things in the LN (and the anime when it airs) will be Miyuki when she uses her magic and goes full crazy when someone tries to hurt her bro. The other redeeming part is Katsuto.
MC is the biggest Gary Stu and makes it hard to enjoy the story with him being like that.
My main problem isn't even the Gary Stu. It's the writing.
He never gets into interesting situations in the early novels, and even when you could call the situation interesting there's no tension.
Only in GRORIOUS NIPPON. The author makes a point about how much of a shithole china is now, for example. Also, somehow magicians stopped nukes from being used in ww3, but that made it last 20 years so most of the planet is still recovering.
That illustration is actually from volume 9. It actually looks like there was some activity on the baka-tsuki page for Hagure Yuusha last week with a few prologues being posted.
I like Akatsuki, the main problem for the anime is that most of his backstory and actually stuff comes later. Yeah it's nice starting out with an overpowered MC, but I like some kind of information before being dumped into a setting. Season 2 or LN translations never though so no backstory for us.
The USNA is mentioned as being plagued by anti-magic religious fundamentalists as well, despite it's cutting edge magic research and military might
Japan is also in all actuality a facist police state, and is stated as the reason it made it through the war relatively intact, but because all the MCs are filthy rich and successful in the overall scope of things soyou never see this.
I am actually looking forward to the anime. It will animate the Nine Schools Competition arc, and it is a decent arc and it will be good to see the games animated.
> all the MCs are filthy rich
Oh for the love of fucking god, really?
They're all going to basically the top magic school in Japan.
Magic is passed down by bloodline, and all the strong bloodlines are rich and influential. The vast majority of the magic schools come from strong bloodlines.
They're basically nobility except actually genetically superior.
Yeah I just noticed that. I hadn't really looked at the BT page for it. Some of these novel illustrations.
Well they are all part of the main magic families so is to be expected.
That's bias. I don't recall MKnR's writing trying hard to bash your head in to remind you that Tatsuya should have flaws. His weakness was defined and established early on. Any reminder where he couldn't do something was narrated as a reminder how like if it were x character or such, they could had done it where Tatsuya can't because he can't use complex magic. But Tatsuya usually finds a way through using using his hax magic. It's like finding a solution to a problem, there isn't always one solution, but multiple methods to achieve the solution. The easy and fast solution would require complex magic, but there are other ways around it using other kind of magic.
Whether or not one is the fun type or a serious type shouldn't matter. Someone like Izayoi is unrestrained and wild, enjoys being OP'd and wants to find someone stronger to fight. Tatsuya is OP'd and is the calculated and reserved type who is just looking out for his imouto. In either case, both can't do everyone by themselves.
Character math, anon. Hei-like personality + Kazuma kind of OP + Batman-like thinking.
I wouldn't say zero tension. To me, the draw is the hope that he faces a difficult situation or opponent. I want to see how he'd handle it or come out of it or just how he'd react to it. The battle with Lina wasn't so one-sided and that was pretty interesting. But my main enjoyment comes from other characters and the setting more than the MC< really.
I hope for the LN over the anime. Source is usually always better.
one Gary Stu and generic anime girls.
Fucking hate generic anime girls.
God now I'm angry
Pixie best girl.
God, I'm still waiting on Shizuku's supposedly upcoming volume.
Honoka's reactions during that and after that event were great. I felt really bad for her.
That's right. Generic.
Templated. Based off of a long list of archetypes.
A long list of fetish types meant to appeal to a target demographic so that they can fap to it, rather than attempting to make an original character.
That's what anime is.
Tell me I'm wrong. Go ahead. No, she's so original! OC don't steal!
In before no you're wrong and some attempted examples as to how brimming with originality and innovation the anime industry is.
So from this thread its about a Brother and him being overprotective of his sister or falling in love with her?
What anime girls aren't modeled after an archetype? What anime girls do you enjoy that don't make you go mad? And why are you on /a/?
I'm going to watch this for the Japanese nationalist overtones and laugh my ass off. Try to lighten up, /a/.
>answering seriously to pasta
Knowing you, she will be your favorite girl.
Waiting for Lina to ditch the USNA.
Neither. It is about MC's sister going full yandere over him whenever a woman tries to get close to him or someone belittles or try and hurt him.
At least that is the only thing good about the LN, along with some good side characters
I used to enjoy anime girls. A long time ago.
I guess I've become disillusioned.
Now, this wouldn't be so bad, but japan keeps feeding into this loop of samegirl.
The people who make this shit because it makes money, which is understandable.
The otaku who religiously buy overpriced BDs because...?
So it´s like Unbrekeable Machine Doll but with more bullshit
He's basically a genetically modified bodyguard who was experimented on. It kinda failed, leaving him emotionless, bar loving his sister (in a sibling fashion). She really loves him though.
I would still watch it though if you like a detailed world, although I think the anime won't be as detailed as the LN. I would imagine it would be hard to explain magic the rate they do in the LN, in the anime.
If anything, watch the anime to the end of the Nine Schools Competition. It is quite fun.
He's hit or miss, but I'll be optimistic.
Anyways, I'll be looking forward to Ayase lusting over Kyousuke once again.
Mai waifu battling it out with Miyuki. This will the highpoint of the anime for me. Also this scene:
"However, I do need to apologize to Shizuku."
Shizuku stared at Tatsuya with a "I have no idea what you're talking about" expression.
"Disregarding the final outcome, this could have turned into a more even contest...... My estimation was too naive. It was too strenuous a demand for you to completely master 'Phonon Maser' in two short weeks."
"Ah, that...... No, that's not Tatsuya-kun's fault at all. Also, without that, I would have had no chance to retaliate at all."
Fully comprehending why Tatsuya was apologizing, Shizuku vigorously shook her head.
"It was my fault I couldn't control it. I should be the one apologizing. If I could wield it at will, that would have made for a much better match. As an inept opponent, I also extend my apologies to Miyuki as well."
"Please don't be like that. At the time, I was very surprised. You were able to use such an advanced magic ability while dual-wielding CADs at the same time."
Miyuki smiled and shook her head. Afterwards, she teasingly glared at Tatsuya.
"Onii-sama, were you really trying to make me lose?"
At this fairly complex to answer question, Tatsuya immediately responded.
"......I just wanted the both of you to bring out your maximum potential."
And the result was this dignified but brilliant rejoinder.
Pompous, but it was no lie.
Miyuki knew this very well, but understanding this was one thing, being satisfied with this answer was another thing altogether.
"Seriously...... Does this person not care about his own sister?"
"I do believe you would be truly indignant if I went easy on you."
Anyone could encounter their friend teasing an older sibling, but this was an extremely rare occurrence for Miyuki. Her words not only brought about Tatsuya's rebuttal, they also caused Honoka and Shizuku to burst into laughter.
this is fucking stupid
how can they even make exciting fights when the character is this overpowered?
Whoever made the copypasta must be patting himself on the back every time someone replies like this.
Just read the read.
Have the side characters screw up making life harder for the MC.
I really am glad tje Nine Schools Competition was told in volume 3 & 4, it has some good moments of Miyuki being full brocon.
A scene I am somewhat looking forward to is the one where Miyuki asks Tatsuya to stay by her side so she can rest. It was just to cute for me
Use side characters instead.
Some of the most interesting fights involved people like Erika and Leo and what not. Although OP, due to Miyuki having some pretty amazing magic, the fights and bouts she has with enemies or friends mae them quite fun and interesting
What's the fun about a fight where you already know who will win?
Unless they can pull a One Outs gimmick, it will be hard to be entertaining in anime form.
>read the thread*
He meant other characters' fight not involving the MC.
For the MC's fight, even if you know he'll most likely win, does it really matter and affects your enjoyment that much? Why not enjoy the MC making people his bitch with this hax instead?
But anon, the side character fights are usually prettt interesting bar ones that involve people like Katsuto or Mayumi who are quite strong. And like I said fights or bouts that involve Miyuki will always be good because it is mainly her going full yandere and literally using overwhelming might to beat people in an instant rather than little strength over a long period
What's the point of watching any fight ever?
The MC always wins in the end, it's more about how they win that makes a fight interesting. Whether it be easy or hard, fast or slow, flashy or quite, noble or deviant.
B-but Touma won by loosing
>Touma beating fucking awakening Accelerator in Russia
This still irks me.
>Some of the most interesting fights involved people like Erika and Leo and what not
You have got to be joking. Erika and Leo's fights are the most uninteresting fights in this novel.
I can't believe people can call it that way.
No one cares about Shizuka.
Custom CADs from Tatsuya and even the strategy she used was all derived from Tatsuya.
If Tatsuya wasn't there, she would get wrecked.
You take that back, anon. Because I care, damn it.
All he really wanted was to power her up so his sister had a more powerful enemy to fight against.
In later novels he again picks out powerful foes for her to fight so she gets to practice using all her power.
Any news on how many eps it will have and up to what it will cover from the LN's?
No idea, but I would assume it would at least cover the first 4 volumes since that covers 2 main arcs. Maybe also adding in stuff from volume 5 if they have an OVA.
There's the complaints of discrimination in the school, but even the "lesser" magicians in the top school in the nation are a cut above everyone else. Among tatsuya's "weed" or second course friends, for instance, one is a genetically engineered superhuman descended from german nobility, and the other is the daughter of the most influential magic martial arts school in the nation, with 80% of the nations police and military force undergoing their training regime. His sister is friends with the offspring of one of the most talented magicians in the country and a billionaire, and someone with ten generations of magical bloodline.
it's not mentioned at all, but they are, quite literally, the 1% of Japanese society.
erika x leonhardt OTP
>liking an inhuman monster
>purple (cool kind not gay kind)
>one is a genetically engineered superhuman descended from german nobility
He's not genetically engineered. His parents were and they weren't really engineered to be fighters because that is what the Master Clans purpose are. And he's also not German nobility.
that's one of the serious faults of the LN, constant infodumps. Not really sure how they're going to handle it. My guess is they're just going to ignore it completely and focus on harem antics.
It's been leaked/hinted at being two cour.
People read this stuff and enjoy it?
>Whoever made the copypasta must be patting himself on the back every time someone replies like this.
He fapping furiously from happiness because there is always over 10 responses in EVERY thread
He faces other strategic-class magicians and monsters. Or his friends try and tough it out and he swoops in and saves the day.
He occupies the role of superman in the story, more or less
But that is half the content along with Tatsuya's monologue.
>Leo was never engineered to be a super human.
The author initially just said Leo was just good at reinforcement magic but then because the author doesn't want the side characters to get left behind by Tatsuya and Miyuki, comes up with asspulls to keep people like Leo relevant.
Because since SAO /a/ has retarded hate boner for Gary Stus
if his parents were genetically engineered, and it's inheritable, then it goes to reason that he is also genetically engineered, since he has the same shit. And wasn't there some bullshit about castles back in germany?
So which girl and guys are paired?
what is this nerd shit
I would imagine it will be dumbed down/shortened. The info the novel lays out is pretty interesting and essential to understand the world they are in better and what not. If they cut all of it out I think fans would get pissy.
They might have static pics for the break that tell stuff about certain things, instead of your normal character pic
Every girl -----------> MC
but then they get some losers nobody cares about and you know they still secretly lust for MC's cock
I'm imagining most of the show being various angles of all the wacky antics around tatsuya, his stoic face, and him narrating it.
No, it's not the same shit. Are you retarded?
Do you know what genetic engineering is? And only the Japanese father was a test tube baby because only the Japanese were successful and enthusiastic about test tube babies which the author stated.
Leo doesn't qualify at all to be considered genetically engineered.
Going with your retarded logic, everyone like Tatsuya and Miyuki are genetically engineered as well.
maybe the same thing like log horizon, where if there is something essential to know there will be a short scene cut describing it. I feel like that show's done a pretty good job of explaining various mmo mechanics necessary to the story to an audience that may not be familiar with them, while keeping it simple enough that you don't get confused
only one that matters is Miyuki and Tatsuya. and is because all girls like Tastuya but can't have him
You're confusing Erika with Leo, you idiot.
Erika's mom is European nobility.
That castle you are referring to belongs to Erika's cousins.
>Mahouka Gary Stu apologists
most pathetic fans ever
but they are
it's specifically stated the yotsuba have secret human experimentation labs, poorly-kept secret ones at that that are tolerated because they produce results
Except it's nothing like SAO
Man, just how stupid are you?
The only people in the Yotsuba clan currently that are genetically engineered are bodyguards like Miyuki's female guardian who was test tubed to be great at producing heat resistant barriers.
I can't wait till we get a 1-2 minute scene of Tatsuya monologueing/explaining stuff kinda like how it happens for nearly a page in most instances in the LN
The point of genetic engineering is to produce favorable genetic results on purpose and based on your own will.
No one, not even Tatsuya's own mom, would expect Tatsuya to be born as someone who was just good at one magic which the Yotsuba frowns on because it is better to be talented in all kinds of magic rather than just being good at one magic which is why Tatsuya got such a harsh reception from his clan as a kid.
If Tatsuya was genetically engineered as you claim, everyone would have expected Tatsuya to not be a possible candidate for the next Yotsuba head already when he was still in his mother's womb.
Erika deserves her weed status actually.
She's not great at any other magic and it is only thanks to Tatsuya giving her new, custom made CADs and software, that you mistakenly think Erika doesn't deserve being a weed.
Give Erika back the default CAD equipment and you will see that she has just been overly reliant on Tatsuya's bleeding edge technology.
Hell, Tatsuya even already modded one of Erika's katanas by miniaturizing it and making it easier for Erika to use.
there's mikihiko x mizuki, but that's about the only one that doesn't involve tatsuya. Even the robots want his D
The author is also shipping up jumonji and former student council prez, leo and erika, kendo girl and magic kendo guy and probably another i'm forgetting. Note that all the girls wanted/still want MC's dick.
I would imagine it would be hard to tell how adept someone is in magic when they are still in the womb, and the only reason people would have expected him to be the next head is most likely because his mother was a top tier magician.
Anyway it isn't important, Tatsuta was a failure before and after he was experimented on and because of that we have a Gary Stu MC
I don't know the author would bother anyway, Tatsuya and Miyuki is all we need
>is basically a low level diety
>I would imagine it would be hard to tell how adept someone is in magic when they are still in the womb
Genetic engineering actually makes this possible so thanks for agreeing with me that Tatsuya isn't genetically engineered.
Did you forget the part where she crushed a battlemech with one of her family's secret sword techniques?
You're right, she's bad at regular magic, but many of the "course 2" students are there just because they have an extreme specialty that doesn't register very well on the magic power scale, which is used for entry exams. It's especially noted that the scale holds up poorly for combat magic, with many bodyguards being merely C class magicians, despite easily being lethal to those who would be A rank.
Season 3 never ;_;
Well he would be even more OP if it was a success. Wouldn't have the weakness of being bad at normal magic.
>leo and erika
Author hasn't done this in a long time.
Every volume, the hints that Erika likes Tatsuya go stronger and Leo has been more and more irrelevant.
Look how moody Erika was onmatters involving Lina and Tatsuya and how she required Mizuki to cheer her up by saying Tatsuya won't ever take his eyes away from you.
No once cares about the kendo chick or her guy.
The author never really shipped them. Just forced them together out of nowhere and then made them nauseating and cheesy to read in Yokohoma Arc.
yeah, it's my OTP too ;_;
>The who wanted to fuck MC
Fucking disgusting Gary Stu. Why is this allowed?
God, I already hate the character before the show even aired.
>Did you forget the part where she crushed a battlemech with one of her family's secret sword techniques?
Did you forget that the mech was entirely frozen by Miyuki beforehand and that it couldn't even move or fire any bullets or missiles at all because Miyuki had frozen the internals of the mech as well?
This results in the mech becoming nothing more than an expensive harmless sitting duck that anyone could have defeated since it isn't able to fight back at all.
Yeah, I'll wait for you to prove me wrong when Miyuki is making everything easy mode for Erika.
Like i said, some of them still lust after MC's dick. But Leo is going to be the guy she settles on when she realizes she can't get MC.
in the eyes of the Yotsuba clan and basically the way magicians are ranked and taught he is a failure because he can't use much magic.
But he is genetically engineered, just not when he was in the womb. He underwent genetic engineering and experimentation at the age of 6 by the hands of the head of the xlan and his mother. It is stated a few times and it happened because he was a failure and they didn't want that so tried to make hom not one but they failed again but inadvertently gave him strong magic power and genius level intellect
>in the eyes of the Yotsuba clan and basically the way magicians are ranked and taught he is a failure because he can't use much magic.
I guess this is a stand in for commentary against racism or something, but it remains utterly ludicrous. Tats can blow up cities by thinking hard about it. He's basically immortal. He can heal any level of damage on someone else as long as they're still alive. You don't continue thinking that making pretty lights is the measure of a true magician when someone like that shows up, you readjust your parameters for measuring magical ability.
He's a national secret, and there's a super NSA in effect, as well as him being explicitly forbidden from using his powers in anything less than a dire emergency.
It's alluded to several times that breaking the NSA calls down the japanese KGB on you to kidnap your family etc etc, regardless of your status.
You might as well say the whole battle was easy mode then, since tatsuya was there.
>He's a national secret
That only happened later. I'm specifically talking about the yotsuba and their policy of 'let's keep kicking the godling, i'm sure that won't cause problems later'.
But it works.
there are a very small number of people who hold vast power and those who do are mainly the heirs and heads of the 28 clans that can become of the top 10.
out of all the magicians only about 1% have that overwhelming power and that is were the curret system comes in and works well.
the world outside of military and police have no need for powerful magicians and are better off with the more technical ones who know more magic and can apply it better. hell, the police might be even better of with technical magicians in some instances
The biggest Gary Stu in anime, and that includes Dragonball/Big 3.
Like someone else mentioned though, the rest of the yotsuba don't know about his superpowers, just that he's a mediocre failure in comparison to his sister. Maya fucks with him because his sister is basically guaranteed to be the next head thanks to his abilities, and they both know it. She constantly plays chicken with him because she can and tatsuya wants miyuki to be the next head and have an easy life. While he could probably beat her in a fight, allowing it to escalate to that point would cause big problems, so he rolls over.
What bias? All I'm saying is that one narrative tries to introduce 'flaws' that are ultimately inconsequential or turn into actual strengths for the character. There's no reason to do so other than wanting to convince readers that your leading man and lady aren't mary sues.
Yotsuba head is stronger than Tatsuya and nearly every other magician and he knows it.
Miyuki is most likely the only one who is stronger than the current head
>Any "stu" bigger than Sasuke
No one is going to fall for that.
everything in that post was true though. and theres even more:
>His capable sister loves him and complains all the time about why other people won't recognize her oniichans talents
But Tatsuya is. And Miyuki is the biggest Mary Sue.
The battle was easy because Miyuki was there and that is the undeniable truth.
With her large scale interference magic too, Miyuki can turn any kind of opposing enemy magic into nothing but harmless air as well.
So yeah, thanks for further supporting my point that the battle was easy mode for Erika because Miyuki pretty much just shut down any mech that just happened to wander by only to get frozen.
Even without Erika there, Miyuki has frozen the mechs so thoroughly that the enemy magicians can't even get out of their cockpit.
So sorry, Erikafag, for breaking your illusion that Erika needs no Yotsuba to do anything worthwhile
wut. there was a conversation where he says he should be able to beat her because her stuff doesn't really work against his magic.
In all honesty, his sister is more of a sue than he'll ever be.
>It's alluded to several times that breaking the NSA calls down the japanese KGB on you to kidnap your family etc etc, regardless of your status.
Yet Erika already blabs it out to her older brother that Tatsuya is part of the Independent Battalion and creates situations where Tatsuya has to use his restricted magic to save her ass in the middle of the night.
you have no idea.
at first you think "it's interesting, he's kind of an unrecognized genius/underdog!"
but after a while you realize he the very definition of gary stu.
there are many gary stus in anime/manga, but i honestly don't know another character that is that much of a gary stu.
his character may as well have been written by a 13 year old on deviantart
It's specifically mentioned that her magic is superlethal against everyone but tatsuya, which is why miyuki is guaranteed to be the next head - if he started a shitstorm, nobody could stop him. She even tries to bluff him once by starting up the activation sequence and he calls her on it by just eating it.
I know but she still is stronger than him if you ignore his special magic and the only real reason he hasn't tried to beat the head is because it wouldn't bode well for him or Miyuki. by saying that you can say he fears the Yotsuba clan somewhat even though he can't feel fear.
>at first you think "it's interesting, he's kind of an unrecognized genius/underdog!"
This is my problem. I don't mind overpowered shits like Tohno Shiki because they have very clear limiters. But Tatsuya ended up being essentially perfect that there's no meaningful conflict left. After awhile, I stopped caring about him since I knew everything would always turn out alright, especially if his sister was supporting him. That is something that shouldn't happen in any good story.
This makes Kirito look like a well-written and balanced character.
The worst about this is that he still haven't conquered his fucking world. Useless Gary Stu is useless.
Nobody ever said they were smart. She worries about the nippon NSA like a paragraph before that and then goes "ah, fuck it"
look here >>101931334
Like you said he can beat her but It wouldn't do any good for him or Miyuki yet.
Maya's magic power is stronger than Tatsuya's byt like you said it won't work on him
Kirito really isn't even as bad as people make him out to be. I can't wait for the shitstorm when this airs and people finally understand what a true Stu is like.
Tatsuya literally doesn't care about stuff like that and only cares for his sister's safety and well being and unless his sister asked him to do something like that he would never do it
Oh yeah, the frodo is going to be worse than SnK and SAO combined.
I can't wait for the shitstorm, and I actually enjoy these novels
Erika's brother is pretty shitty as well.
All that effort by Tatsuya to not create any blood shed and escape successfully from the American soldiers who were trying to capture him alive got ruined by Erika's brother just jumping in from no where and just started killing all the Americans left and right with his katana who couldn't even defend themselves because Tatsuya had already decomposed their tasers and any items they had on their bodies.
Shame Linda didn't blast Erika's brother's head off.
My main beef with this series is that it looks shit. The characters' outfits, they look shit and STUPID.
Let's face it, Kirito's black coat looked pretty rad. Asuna's Blood Oath whatever's uniform was really cute. But these >>101913434
… these are just awful. Fucking ugly, 1/10.
If you're going to have a shitty story, at least make the characters look good.
Not everyone can have uniforms as snazzy as nazis.
I'm just giggling like a motherfucker over here god damn like what who the hell writes this shit
there's no reason they couldn't. It's fiction. Hell, with all the nationalism and the specifically stated post-ww3 police state stuff going on, it would actually make more sense than whatever the fuck retarded thing the girls are wearing
I'm ready for the waifu wars when this series comes out though, it's going to be gr9
People with power and harem fantasies. We're all guilty of them, it's just that some people have the means to make money from them.
Looking at Toriyama and Lightning. He literally made his waifu a reality.
there will be no waifu wars
Miyuki is already objectively best girl
Livin the dream
>Best mary sue
regardless of how mary sue she is, she is best girl for sure
the only problem is her brocon nature and due to that next best would have to be Mari
Made this for fun, anything I should add / edit ?
What the hell are those poses?
Why are the girls' uniforms so ugly? They're like… smocks with ties.
Why are the characters so plain-looking?
Why are the color schemes so bad?
Maya is actually, objectively best girl.
It's funny how the OP picture implies Hattori will be important when the faggot wasn't even involved in Yokohoma at all and barely gets described at doing anything in school at all.
Maya a shit m8
Remember when /a/ actually can like and enjoy overpowered characters without crying out "gary stu"? No, me neither.
I can't believe how SAO trolls/haters can influence /a/ so much. It's like brainwashing. Pick out flaws and troll harder enough, then the association will stick even if the truth is different.
What about Saitama?
And besides, this bullshit >>101914989 is very hateworthy. It's like Paolini on steroids.
Aunt is doing a Hikaru Genji plan on Tatsuya as revealed by her butler asking Maya if she is actually planning to make Tatsuya a Saint but then she acts tsundere and denies it, saying Tatsuya is not ready to become a Saint yet.
And if you read the novels, Tatsuya and Maya have a BDSM like relationship.
She actually loves how frank Tatsuya is toward her instead of kissing her ass like everybody does to her and enjoys her phone conversations with Tatsuya.
She is the only woman Tatsuya doesn't need to hide anything from and he can speak his mind without feeling the need to be polite or formal.
She can also equally troll Tatsuya with words just as Tatsuya trolls her with words.
Maya and Tatsuya have the most equal relationship in the whole novel.
Saitama is played up to ridiculous levels, so much it's like a parody. His one punch is a gag in and of itself.
Have you read the LN or are you going to put trust on a copypasta that people have commented on for hyperbole and for not having proper context? If you've been on /a/ for as long as I have, you'd know to take anything you read here with a grain of salt?
I've read the novels and everything on that list is completely true.
>If you've been on /a/ for as long as I have
I dunno how long you've been here, but I generally find that people are generally honest/straightforward about spoilering stuff from LNs. Especially since most people don't bother reading them anyway. In the grand scheme of things, hyperbole don't count for shit because they get exposed over lengthy/repeated discussions. And this isn't my first Rettousei rodeo either.
What about the water droplet he detonated?
Make it tatsuya mk1, and the harbor mk2?
seconded. there's maybe 1 or two exagerations max, and none of them are related to his magical abilities.
Does he even go to the nine schools tournament? Besides, I think that's an LN illustration from the first volume.
He existed so that he could be worfed by the main character. Once his duty was completed, he was basically ignored.
Same with Kyoani or Shaft or any most popular anime of it's season
Not all of it. Regrowth has limitations. He doesn't have a nearly unlimited of magic as that has never been stated or hinted before. That doesn't make sense if you think about it since his power can be sealed by Miyuki. We don't know where his place is among the world ranking for strategic magicians. No doubt being a nuke magician makes him way up there, but that's in terms of scale. MC's aunt isn't a strategic magician yet she's one of the most powerful in the eastern world in a one on one fight. Tat's activation speed is insanely fast, but not the fastest, as shown when Lina is faster. He's a programmer, not engineer. He has people who do the engineering for him to fit his CAD software. His looks aren't "crippling" flaws, the series doesn't try to paint it like it is. And his "lack" of emotions is never said or implied to be a flaw. In fact, to the eyes of his aunt and mother, it's a good thing for a tool/guardian. Tats doesn't make a fuss over it either. There are tons of complex magic that Tats can't use, but he gets by anyways with his own hax.
But that's not exactly spoilers, it's a copypasta made by a hater with the intention of detracting. Also, to rile up SAO trolls who started the gary stu train that seemingly can't be stopped now.
>But that's not exactly spoilers, it's a copypasta made by a hater with the intention of detracting. Also, to rile up SAO trolls who started the gary stu train that seemingly can't be stopped now.
You know, I really hate to say this because I really enjoyed SAO and had no problems with Kirito, but butthurt posts like this are precisely why "SAO trolls" and "gary stu trains" breed here. You think you're disproving people but all you're doing is throwing a basket of raw meat to the gators.
>Not all of it. Regrowth has limitations.
Half of his body gets vaporized and he fixes it.
Short of hacking his head off vampire style, he's invincible.
>He doesn't have a nearly unlimited of magic as that has never been stated or hinted before. That doesn't make sense if you think about it since his power can be sealed by Miyuki.
one of the only exaggerations on the list, and largely a moot point considering it's specifically stated his magic power is irrelevant to real power
>We don't know where his place is among the world ranking for strategic magicians. No doubt being a nuke magician makes him way up there, but that's in terms of scale. MC's aunt isn't a strategic magician yet she's one of the most powerful in the eastern world in a one on one fight.
And he can beat her due to his ability to basically turn off other people's magic.
>Tat's activation speed is insanely fast, but not the fastest, as shown when Lina is faster.
he has the ability to activate certain magics without an activation sequence,
>He's a programmer, not engineer. He has people who do the engineering for him to fit his CAD software.
he's both, but there's no need for him to do the dirty work when he has a bunch of top-class researchers and engineers to do it for him
>His looks aren't "crippling" flaws, the series doesn't try to paint it like it is. And his "lack" of emotions is never said or implied to be a flaw.
specifically mentioned during the beach scene, people are horrified by his scars and honoka is crushed when he reveals he can't love
>In fact, to the eyes of his aunt and mother, it's a good thing for a tool/guardian. Tats doesn't make a fuss over it either. There are tons of complex magic that Tats can't use, but he gets by anyways with his own hax.
and thus, his flaws aren't really "flaws" at all
You mean vaporising his brain. He could regrowth his entire body as long as his brain is still functioning.
Anon, I only said the truth. Any overpowered character from now on excluding parodied ones are going to get bash as gary stu. SAO merely was the catalyst for that train of thought that leads to the association.
>Half of his body gets vaporized and he fixes it.
We know that.... He can't bring back the death though, so pretty much you need to blow his entire body to bits or his brain. Lina could had done either on the first move, but she didn't (only blowing off Tat's arm) since she didn't have the heart of a killer.
>largely a moot point considering it's specifically stated his magic power is irrelevant to real power
It's relevant to everything outside of MB, actually. MB follows a different principle than MD or other magic.
>And he can beat her due to his ability to basically turn off other people's magic.
That little exchange they had suggests his aunt's magic is unbelievably fast. Not enough to cancel, but Tats can decompose some of whatever the hell she did. But Tats got hurt as hinted but regrowth back. This was a non-serious exchange, so we don't know who would truly win in a one on one fight. As implied by the aunt's servant, Tats is a threat, but that's all we know.
>he has the ability to activate certain magics without an activation sequence,
Only when it comes to flash cast. That's one of the chip's function and it only works for low-mid magic.
Hmm. I'm quite sure it was said that he doesn't make CADs themselves. He gives specs that's ideal for his software, but engineering is handled by those at FLT lab.
Battle scars are usually a cool thing to have though. Miyuki seems them as proof of getting stronger anyways.
>he can't love
He doesn't need it when he can love Miyuki, ha.
>his flaws aren't really "flaws" at all
Yeah, but why are they considered flaws in the first place when they're made out to be flaws?
>you leave muh gary stu alone!
Why so upset over a serious discussion? Are you the guy who made the pasta?
>writes a wall of text trying desperately to prove his gary stu isn't a gary stu
>calls someone else upset
Just noticed. Other argument was meant for >>101934186
>Many short spaced sentences
>wall of text
Stu or not isn't the issue or point. Refuting false or exaggerated claims is the point. My tone doesn't suggest being desperate in the slightly. Please troll elsewhere
Your trolling is bad. You can surely do better next time.
go ahead and post another impassioned defense of this shit and i'll see what i can do.
What the fuck did China do to this man?
This author is the fucking Japanese equivalent to a Stormfronter. Sheesh, I thought the elevens hated Korea.
>This author is the fucking Japanese equivalent to a Stormfronter.
The author always struck me as the japanese version of a randian objectivist.
Even the most wacko Randfag wouldn't dream about nuking some foreign country for racist reasons.
Even more hypocritical since Ancient China basically brought Old Japan out of the fucking stone age. More than half of the words in Japanese are Chinese loan words.