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I finally watched Madoka. I don't really get why people love it to death.
It was alright I suppose. Character development was handled really fucking weird and made no sense. The beeg tweest with Homura was predictable as hell. (Basically Higurashi) The ending was literal shit.
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Why do people always choose this image when they wish to start an argument with the Madoka fans?
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>>101908865
It's a common ruse
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>>101908865
First result in Google Images.
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>>101908865
I haven't watched Muhdoka, what's wrong with it?
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As long as you agree that Kyubey did nothing wrong, OP, there's nothing to complain about.
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>>101908865
trolling or beeing lazy as fuck. Either way If you start thread with that image it will be shit.
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>>101908998
And that Kyouko is best girl.
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>>101908792
Yeah, I feel ya. I was really excited when it aired, but after re-watching it a year later, it's just decent. I'm NOT saying it's a pretentious piece of crap, it's a good show. But that immense hype around it, till this day? That's way out of bounds.
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Please explain how "character development was weird" or how "the ending was literal shit". Everyone could throw these dumb arguments around for every show when baiting.

Also

>basically Higurashi

In Higurashi you watched until the fourth episode where everything happened again out of nothing. As if the other 20 episodes weren't predictable as hell then.
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>>101909032
You're close.
The best girl is her senpai.
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>>101909091

>XX1909091
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>>101909027
>>101908865
I never even go to /a/ so I don't know what you fuckers get into on a daily basis.

>>101909091
The character development is sudden and inhuman. Especially Sayaka.
I think Kyoko is the only one who actually developed at a decent pace with build up.
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>>101909206
>>>/s4s/
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>>101908998
Everything they did was for a greater good, even in Rebellion. But that doesn't mean they are justified.

>>101909032
"Mami", it's is pronounced "Mami". Don't worry, you will get the name right eventually.
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>>101909272
>It's for the greater good
>But it isn't justified

That doesn't make any sense. Of course they're justified. If they didn't harness energy, then the entire universe would've been destroyed eons ago.

The entire series would've just been an infinite cold void with Kyubey floating around for 20 minutes commenting to himself every once in awhile going "We probably should've done the magical girl thing."
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I also thought it was a missed opportunity that the big german gear monster wasn't actually an alt timeline Homura that gave up and that's why she couldn't beat it.
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>>101909168
Both are good girls.
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>>101909554
No arguments there.
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Why didn't Madoka just wish that human society progressed normally without incubators
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This is now a best girl thread
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>>101909673
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>>101909673

There is no definition of normal since everything happened since the beginning of time under the influence of girls and their wishes.
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>>101909728
Why didn't Madoka just wish that the universe didn't have to worry about entropy
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>>101909726
>sample
As expected of the goofy looking bitch.
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Why didn't Homura just create a timeline where Madoka, Mami, Sayaka, and Kyoko were all alive and then all take on the big german thing together
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>>101909843
because muh muhduker
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>>101909363
Of course, bringing nothing but despair and manipulate the natural progression of the sentients beings, playing around with forces that they obviously didn't understand and that actually may have been a potential threat for the very universe they were trying to protect, but it is alright.
At the end of the day, the end justifies the means, right?
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>>101909240
But Sayaka is an idiot.
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>>101909766
>wish that the universe didn't have to worry about entropy

Because entropy is infinite and the energy you would need to undo entropy entirely would exceed anything that could possibly exist. It's an impossible wish.
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Are you ready to accept that Homura is best girl and Kyouko is best meguca?
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I'm actually suprised so many people think OP is trolling, I agree.

It was good but vastly overrated
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>>101909942
But didn't Kyubey literally fucking say that Madoka was so powerful and god-like that no wish was impossible?
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>>101909893
It's either that or certain doom.
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>>101909985
>It was good but vastly overrated
Like every other anime ever.
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>>101909978
Such shit taste. Kyoko is alright though.
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>>101909766
>>101909942
You can't wish for anything, not even Madoka. Kyubey hinted that the scope of a wish is proportional to the amount of potential energy a magical girl could produce, and, even then, that wish is loaded and will probably cause a backlash to return things to balance. Madoka's wish was huge because of Homura's fucking around with the timeline, but that doesn't mean her wish could be big enough to change the essence of the universe. Her wish just changed the way that energy was packaged.
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>>101909985
You already exposed yourself with the other reply, give it up.
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>>101910082
It's alright to hate Homu if you haven't gained the enlightenment to appreciate her as best girl.
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>>101909893
The Incubators did not manipulate the natural progression of humanity, they only aided humanity in altering itself. Even as far back as ancient Egypt, they treated humans as intelligent creatures and gave them the contract offer. It was up to them to accept or decline as they desired.

If the Roman Empire arose because of a little girl's wish, it wasn't the Incubators that wanted it to happen, it was the girl that did it. The Incubators provided a way for humanity to rewrite and change itself on a grand scale. When you're dealing with the Incubators, who lack emotion and seem to act as a hivemind at times, it's perfectly fine to allow one person to speak for the entire species.

If it weren't for Kyubey's race, then Madoka never would've even had her family and friends because all of them would've ceased to exist along with the billions of other lifeforms in the universe when entropy came knocking.
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>>101909985

So is your Monster, your Samurai Champloo, your Cowboy Bebop, your Akira, your NGE, your Code Geass and/or your Steins;Gate.

See what I'm up to?
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>>101909893
>>101910249
The needs of the many outweighs the needs of the few. Incubators are basically another reiteration of the Vulcans, they act on what is "logical"
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>>101909843
She doesn't have to create a timeline where they are all alive, because they are at the start of all timelines. As for why, well it's hard work trying to keep four people alive when you have a job as dangerous as this. And sometimes those people get in the way. Like when Mami tied her up when she shot Kyouko.
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>>101910388
Alright, she's allowed to kill Mami before she even meets Madoka. Homu and Kyouko can probably take out walmart night.
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>>101910230
>Godoka mourning the ribbon and bloody feather, her loss of Homura's companionship forever
>Homura doesn't give a shit

That piece of shit needs to die, Madoka deserves way better than her.
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>>101910486
>she's allowed to kill Mami before she even meets Madoka
She should have done this in the first place and this whole situation would've been avoided.

I thought she was gonna be teenage schoolgirl kiritsugu and she failed dramatically
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>>101910486
>kill Mami

She tries so hard to do what is right. Cut her some slack.
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>>101910550
>Godoka mourning the ribbon and bloody feather, her loss of Homura's companionship forever

nice fanfic material there m8
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>>101910593
>kill Mami solves everything
If you really believe that you are more stupid than Homura and that's saying a lot.
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>>101910696
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>>101909363
If they didn't harness energy, then the entire universe would've been destroyed eons ago.
But that's wrong you fucking retard.
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>>101910550
But there is no one better than Homu. Would anyone else have become a devil for their Madoka?
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>>101910743
Whoops forgot my >
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>>101910775
>Would anyone else have broken Madoka's heart for their Madoka?

Probably not, she's that awful.
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>>101910696
If she killed mami before she met homura, madoka and sayaka wouldn't know anything about being a magical girl.

Literally all Homerun would have to do is plant explosives around mami's house and set them off.
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>>101910885
*before she met madoka
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>>101910885
How does that prevent QB from soliciting contracts from them?
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>>101910885
Good job in being more stupid than Homura.
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>>101911004
Go fuck yourself, QB.
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>>101910882
No, Homu is love.

>>101910885
She wouldn't even have to do that. If Mami doesn't know about her time stop power, Homu could walk right up to her and shoot her in the soul gem.
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>>101910986
Because they never would have met him in the warehouse/factory/garage/wherever the fuck they were.
And if that really wouldn't work, then Homura could just kill Kamijou as well to stop Sayaka from contracting, which in turn would prevent Madoka.
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>>101910986
who cares if titmage is dead?
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These threads with that image need to be bannable.
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>>101911085
You really can't be this stupid.
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>>101911056
Please do not bully the Incubator.
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The best thing about Madoka was the Sendai earthquake.
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>>101910885

Well they would have died then when rescuing Kyubey for being trapped in the witch world.
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>>101908792
>I don't really get why people love it to death.

Because humans have different opinions.
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>>101911076
Homus can't just go around killing everyone. She'd be at risk of turning into a witch.

>>101911221
I agree, that's Homura's job.
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>>101911177
>Retarded mamifags in charge of knowing shit about anything
Homura's entire character is doing anything she can for madoka, no one else matters. So why she didn't take any step she could to acheive her goals doesn't make any sense.
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>>101911076
Are you retarded? Meeting him in the mall had nothing to do with Mami. Tricking little girls into giving up their souls is an Incubator's job, which they've been doing for thousands of years. He can do it without a wingman.

>kill Kyousuke
>Sayaka wishes to revive him
Good job.
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>>101908934
It's sixth on my end
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>>101911070
Homu is a bitch, a stupid, self-sacrificing bitch who can't realize the irony in her idiocy. Poor Madoka, all she wanted was to save her and luminous for all eternity in her heavenly garden, but Homura had to go and ruin all that.
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OP makes a good point. It's not the masterpiece that people make it to be...

On the other hand, it's pretty good anime. The animation and soundtrack are amazing.
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>>101911267
Because She's not a sociopath.
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>>101911267
Maybe because she's not a complete psychopath as you seem to think she is?
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>>101911267
Because killing Mami solves nothing, stupid fuck, the problem is QB.
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>>101911345
Fuck off hater.
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>>101911076

>Implying Sayaka wouldn't just wish for Kamijo to be alive again.

Also she can't travel past the point where she wakes up from the hospital.
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>>101911267
Because when she looks Mami in her eyes and sees someone so absolutely destroyed inside by prolonged isolation, guilt, and loneliness, her icy heart melts and she can't bring herself to kill the Mami.

Mami-san's suffering is eternal.
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>>101911228
I guess you could say it woke up the girls!
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>>101911368
Madoka isn't even that good. The only reason why people here give it more praise than it deserves is because it's an acceptable thing to do in this board...

It's the same reason why TTGL used to get a lot of praise. Now people are seeing that it's overhyped. Same with madoka.

You can't fool people any longer.
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>>101908792
>The beeg tweest with Homura was predictable as hell.

Christ, I must be the only one on this board who didn't predict that.
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>>101911076
You're right.

Kyubey would look at the situation, say fuck it, and go contract magical girls in Mexico.
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>>101909240
>The character development is sudden and inhuman. Especially Sayaka.
>I think Kyoko is the only one who actually developed at a decent pace with build up.
This is backwards. Exactly backwards. So precisely backwards that I can't help but suspect it was written this way on purpose.
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>>101911342
Homura had to be the one to save Madoka though.

She'll be okay though. They'll get their luminous, with or without the other half of the moon.

>>101911436
>absolutely destroyed inside by prolonged isolation, guilt, and loneliness
That's a mirror, Homu.
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>>101911516
>That's a mirror, Homu.
So Mami is Homura from the future and America? Of course!
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>>101911516
>Mami hates Homura because she reminds her of herself
>Homura hates Mami because she reminds her of herself

If only they could be friends and not have gunkata battles.
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>>101911458

What was necessarily bad about Madoka?

Not every show that is popular is overrated if it doesn't have 600 episodes.

Nigger
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It's been a while since I last saw Madoka but I remember Homu planning on working with Kyouko to defeat the Walpurgis.
Yet when Sayaka had to be put down, Homu just lets Kyouko make a suicidal attack on witch Sayaka. I understand Kyouko had reasons to do that since she liked Sayaka but from the perspective of Homu, who only cared about defeating that Walpurgis without Madoka, Kyouko had to stay alive.
Or is there something I'm missing?
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>>101911354
>>101911261
>>101911363
>What is a mind of steel
Also she clearly has no qualms with killing someone, she was going to kill Sayaka in the alley if she kept fighting Kyoko.
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>>101911611
What's she gonna do about it? Kyouko is pretty headstrong.
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>>101911516
Homura doesn't deserve Madoka's love anymore after trampling her feelings. It'd be best for Madoka to move on and put her out of her misery for everyone's sake.
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>>101911697
Help kill Sayaka so Kyouko didn't have to die?
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best girl
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>>101911678
Killing Sayaka would be an act of mercy, like killing Madoka in timeline 3. That's a bit different than randomly killing people.
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>>101911611
She stops her in the game and kills Sayaka for her, Kyouko becomes a witch.
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>>101911732
Kyouko wanted to try and save Sayaka, not kill her.
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>>101911712
Madoka is actually Homura's toy. She can't do anything.
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>>101911732
Kyouko already blocked her out by the time she got there.

>>101911678
Because she got angry at her for refusing her help and making Madoka sad.
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>>101911761
>randomly killing
You goddamn retard, it isn't random killing, it's killing people for the sake of her mission. If you hadn't noticed, Homura is completely empty inside and doesn't care about anything other than saving madoka. It really wouldn't be out of her character or out of the realm of possibility to kill them. She'd put Madoka over the entire world even.
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>>101909240
Inhuman? Sayaka was exactly what a middle school girl acted like. She was developed the best out of the cast, though it pissed people off because of how realistic it was.
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>>101911712
Madoka will always be willing to give Homura love. On the other hand, Homura will insist she knows better and push it away regardless.
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>>101909240
>The character development is sudden and inhuman. Especially Sayaka.
>I think Kyoko is the only one who actually developed at a decent pace with build up.
That's like the reverse of how it was, though. Confirmed for retarded or autistic.
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>>101911601
>What was necessarily bad about Madoka?

Not this shit again. There are plenty of posts that have been made on here explaining why the show is bad. You could bother to look them up...or not. It's been discussed to death.

The fact that you even have to ask proves that you can't tell what is shit when it's staring you right in the face.

Really?
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Notice how its always the people who marathon it years after it airs say its shit. I guess why it was widely dohoho enjoyed was because of the actual community. The speculah threads, witch runes deciphering, episode 3, the last episode getting delayed due to earthquake being attributed to Walpurgis. People who marathon it didn't have the same anticipation or investment as people who watched it during airing. When it aired, all the viewers only expected was wide-face Shaft magical girls, not something that would drastically exceed their expectations.
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>>101911591
They don't exactly have compatible motives, and they're only really alike in the loneliness and suffering. Homu doesn't care how many people witches eat as long as she has her Madoka. She's basically a Kyouko that fights for Madoka instead of herself and doesn't change her mind about it.

>>101911712
What is wrong with you?
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>>101911870
Her previous kills were "mercy kills"

She doesn't have the balls to be truly ruthless.
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>>101910249
"Aided", that means that they changed, for good or for bad, its regular way. They see humans as we see our cattle, even less, like plantings. They literally harvest energy from the sentient beings. Whatever they have done beneficial for a species, it was only for that end.

Resisting entropy, Incubators were trying to fight the nature of the universe itself, everything that has a beginning has an end. That is a noble thing, although one would guess that emotionless and logical beings wouldn't give a shit about it and embrace the way things are, maybe the end of this world is the birth of another.
But no. They decided that life is, for some reason, too precious and started their epic quest around the universe for emotionally and hormonally unstable girls on which they could try their dangerous and highly teorical technology. And potentially fuck up the entirety of existence.
Yeah, flawless logic.
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>>101911943
It's too perfectly reversed from what's been said for ages now already, it's like he knew it would get a reaction.
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Why is my waifu, Miki Sayaka, the greatest and most perfect waifu in the world?
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>>101912033
>They see humans as we see our cattle, even less, like plantings.
Stop reading right there, they specifically say otherwise.
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>>101911969
Homura is a lost cause and a threat. the quicker people realize this the better they can prepare themselves for the moment when Madoka has to put her job ahead of her feelings and destroy her. She wouldn't be Madoka if she didn't.
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>>101911751
Was this image drawn by Key? Her eyes are all messed up.
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>>101912089
To be fair, what they do actually say basically amounts to "slightly above cattle" which isn't exactly leaps and bounds better
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>>101911952

>I have evidence proving the show is bad but I can't be assed to look it up.

Well good for you. Glad the show still gets such huge critical acclaim in the form of awards and sales. I mean I guess everyone else is wrong and you are right. Usually we call that being delusional but I will give you the benefit of the doubt and just agree Madoka is shit. 0/10 anime.
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>>101912107
You image name is stupid, okay?
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>>101912089
Welp, sorry for get carried away.
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>>101911952
>muh beeg tweest
>muh shock value
>muh science doesn't make sense
Madoka is arguably the best anime this decade, take your shitty arguments back to youtube
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>>101911955

So what this post is basically telling me is that watching a show and only digesting one episode per week, getting involved with the community and speculating, conversing, and actually anticipating each episode essentially made Madoka Magica NOT shit?

I was one of those who marathoned it not long after it completed airing. In other words I watched it in a condensed form and still considered it shit. I highly doubt that watching it the way you and the rest of 4chan did has fuck all to do with anything. A show should be good overall regardless of how you watched it.

It seems as though you are just trying to pull anything out of your ass to prove to yourself and to others that you enjoy an immensely popular show that GASP, other individuals do not like and instead of accepting that, you posit the insidious claim that if they hadn't marathoned it, they would have liked it.

This has to be about the stupidest post I've read today.
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>>101912184

Amusing, but you really have no idea what the fuck you are talking about. I didn't complain about the twist, the shock value, or the science not making sense in that post. Nice try, but putting words into someone's mouth to make a point will not get you very far.

And FURTHER more, my reasons for disliking Madoka Magica have NOTHING to do with what you tried to say that I claimed was wrong with the show at all.

>take your shitty arguments back to youtube?

Ouch, you really wounded me there.

>Madoka is arguable the best anime this decade.
That is your opinion. And I am of the opinion that it is NOT.
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>>101912222
While I did the same with Madoka and fell in love with it. I would have to argue that you're the retard.

Watching a show along with friends and discussing every episodes makes a series more enjoyable. Sometimes the discussion brings up ideas that you wouldn't normally be seen and are rarely repeated after the fact. You'll never get to know that feeling, you know?

It's apparent that you don't watch anime as it comes out or post in threads that are relevant. Why are you even here? It's the best part of /a/.
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>>101912107
>She wouldn't be Madoka if she didn't.
Madoka wouldn't be Madoka if she doesn't tries to save Homura to the bitter end while blaming himself for being such a useless girl for everything bad that is happening all the way through.
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>>101912222
it means they had some time to think in between episodes, something you probably didnt do, so you think its all shit
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>>101912107
She wouldn't be Madoka if she did, either.

She'd be more likely to sacrifice herself somehow to save Homura, even though Homura would rather die.
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>>101909240
>I never even go to /a/ so I don't know what you fuckers get into on a daily basis.

Then why are you posting here?
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>>101912379
Homura wouldn't be Homura if she didn't try to "save" Madoka until the bitter end while blaming herself for being such a useless girl and causing everything bad happening all the way through.

For added emphasis imagine me physically gesturing air quotes when I say the word "save" in the previous paragraph
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>>101908792
>Character development was handled really fucking weird and made no sense.
You are retarded.

>The beeg tweest with Homura was predictable as hell.
And huge liar.
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>>101912444
>>101912379
Homura is a failure, Madoka is too unselfish to risk the universe over her. She desperately needs to be killed, that's the only thing that can end the cycle of suffering.
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>>101912547
I put that image for a reason, anon, Madoka and Homura are two sides of the same coin.
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>>101912576
>>The beeg tweest with Homura was predictable as hell.
>And huge liar.
oh come on now we were calling the time traveler thing from at least episode 1

granted it was just one possibility out of a dozen everyone just threw at at the wall and hoped would stick but still
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>>101912665
She's actually the cat.
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You say the twist was obvious because you have 3 years of spoilers under your belt and viewed it anachronistically. At the time it was a popular theory but just one of many in the bucket of speculah. But homu being originally moe and weak was a surprise to everyone. All the threads are archived so you can check and confirm yourself.
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>>101912547
I don't know what Madoka you watched, but Homura never caused anything bad. She's been trying her best to fix shit since episode 1.

>>101912626
Yeah, and what happens when Madokami cries over Homu, loses her hope, and turns into goddess Gretchen?

Besides, the Homu I know wouldn't accept dying as a failure. She'd take down Madokami for good.
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>>101912222
>>101911955
I watched this show more than a year after it aired and finished it in 2 days. I was well aware of how much praise the show got.

I still liked it. I wouldn't call it a deconstruction of whatever the fuck but it's a good show.
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>>101912626
Madoka is going to save the universe AND Homura even if it kills her, that's the kind of girl she is.
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>>101912718
No. She is Madoka from the future.
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Homura did nothing wrong.
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>>101912222
>>101911955
I marathoned Madoka alone after it aired and I loved it. Just because you didn't like doesn't mean the whole world thinks the same.

Also about watching show week to week with /a/. It has some pros and cons. I won't delve into this topic very deep, but as an example I would say that Kill la Kill probably would be better watched without /a/ and marathoned in 2-3 sittings. On the other hand low profile shows usually have amazing threads.
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>>101912663
Please, don´t misunderstand fanarts
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>>101912796
Impossible. Different hair color.
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>>101912737
She's nearly given up by episode 1, actually. She's very weary, at least. "Given up" isn't really the right word, it's more like she's kind of emptily going through the motions of this horrible routine. She won't let herself fail but she's not terribly enthusiastic about "trying to fix shit"--most of the "shit" being anything periphery to Madoka.
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>>101912856
Your point?
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Why do the best threads always have the worst OPs

Is it because of the circlejerk takeover
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>>101912737
Trying to do something right doesn't mean that she has done something right.
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>>101912880
She's pretty much completely dead inside at that point. She knows she's bound to keep fighting to change Madoka's until she dies, or she will die as soon as she gives up.

>>101912997
The law of cycles is operating on autopilot and Homu has control of the incubators. The worst she can be accused of is bullying Sayaka.
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>>101908792
>I don't really get why people love it to death.

Yuribait and babbies first anime w/ dark themes
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>>101913058
>The law of cycles is operating on autopilot
And Yuri Valhalla is no more because of it, good job Homu.
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>>101912792
>Homura kills Madoka again
What a cunt.

>>101912737
Madoka's a big girl, she's carried the weight of all the universe's suffering, including her own, she can take losing Homura. That's the fundamental difference between them, Homura breaks when she loses Madoka. It'd be better for everyone if Madoka came to hate Homura and destroy her without remorse.
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>>101913125

[citation needed]
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>>101913133
I have to say, annoying as this troll is, I prefer it to the HomuSaya shitposting.
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>>101913179
Homura and Sayaka getting together would be great since it would spare Madoka and Kyouko of their bullshit and baggage.
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>>101913133
No it isn't. That's pretty much the worst possible ending, and it would make Madokami forevermore A SHIT.

>>101913179
I would prefer the HomuSaya shitposting.
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What if they're too afraid to go on without Urobuchi and a true conclusion never happens and the most we ever do is a bunch of irrelevant spin-offs which would at most acknowledge the weird cosmic stasis currently in place but never do anything to resolve it
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I think it's kind of a "you had to be there" thing. Half the fun of Madoka was discussing it in the threads and speculating on where it was gonna go.
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>>101913236
>would prefer the HomuSaya shitposting.
That's probably because you're a HomuSayafag yourself, at least this shit generates discussion.
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>>101912222
Maybe you should take the show more seriously, is all I can really say. Watch it sometime later?

I remember someone a while back saying the show was only "pretty good". But if you asked them why, they would say they hated or felt nothing for some of the characters, somehow. Some weird argument about how what they're doing is dumb and doesn't make sense. In other words, not paying attention and not taking the show seriously.
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>>101911952
>explaining why the show is bad
>explaining why the show is bad
>explaining why the show is bad

Ok, I think I've had enough /a/ for a lifetime. Goodbye everyone.
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>>101913433
still waiting for those reasons and legitimate explanation m8
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Who encore here?

>no boards or posters edition

Fuck April is too far and I'm not about to resort to camrips. I've held those bastard out for too long to give in.
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>>101913546
Who what?
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>>101912341
>And FURTHER more, my reasons for disliking Madoka Magica have NOTHING to do with what you tried to say that I claimed was wrong with the show at all.
Then please be as kind as to tell us what your reasons are.

>>101911952
>It's been discussed to death.
I wonder to what conclusion, though. Please enlighten me.
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>>101912088
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>>101913909
>Not wanting your waifu in potted plant form.

Fag.
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>>101913644

*Australia screening encore

>>101912088
HHNNNGGGG
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>>101913940

Tripfags are worst husbandos.
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>>101913940
Sayaka used SOLARBEAM
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>>101913125
Yuri Valhalla never existed. stop confusing canon and fanwank for a moment.
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>>101914197
There's clearly some sort of afterlife, whether it's an endless tea party or a blob or souls.
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>>101913940

Didn't say I didn't like it. It's just disturbing at first sight. Where can I get those?
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>>101914197
>series and Urobuchi say there is an afterlife
>nope, just fanwork
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I finally watched Eva. I don't really get why people love it to death.
It was alright I suppose. Character development was handled really fucking weird and made no sense. The beeg tweest with Rei was predictable as hell. (Basically Ninja Scroll) The ending was literal shit.
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>>101914420
What are you doing
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>>101914197
What the fuck are you saying?
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>>101913125
>betrays her goddess
>bullies her friends
>makes humanity her plaything
>successfully destroys heaven

Madoka, please save us from this demon.
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>>101914689
Hope is dead.
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>>101914689
Sayaka will end her in the next movie, Madoka can't do it.
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>>101913502
You too.
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>>101913174
Is the only logical conclusion, why a law without emotionless or conscious would care to save the souls of a bunch of stupid girls? Only the human part of Madoka cares about that.
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>>101914775
Madoka should do it, Sayaka isn't important enough. Madoka needs to wring the life out of Homura with her own hands, it's her responsibility to put down a monster that she inadvertently created. Even better if Homura falls further into evil and grows to hate Madoka so Madoka can kill her with malice for ruining a beautiful friendship.
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>>101915189
P-please don't say things like that, Homura doesn't deserve this.
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>>101915348
Yes she does, she committed every possible grave sin she could just to keep Madoka trapped in a world of shallow happiness. That's pretty horrible, it only would make sense for Madoka and everyone else to see her for the evil she is and destroy her.
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>>101915348
She kinda do, but Madoka will never leave her Homu.
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>>101915513
>>101915569
Madoka will redeem her.

I have faith ;_;
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>>101915646
The only acceptable redemption is death and isolation from the cycle, it's what she deserves for her actions.
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>>101915802
She only did what she had to anon, and I have faith that Madoka will realize this in her wisdom.

She deserves nothing short of eternal salvation after what she has been through.
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Maybe because it was hyped up which made you have high expectations while others watched while it aired years ago with no expectations.

I'm not saying that's what necessarily happened but it's a possible reason.
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>>101915802
>Friend suffers eternity to save you
>"Better kill her before she becomes a threat"
Madoka is a selfish cunt and should kill herself.
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>>101915918
Even the greatest saint would be condemned to hell for committing a mortal sin at the end of his life. Her loss of faith in Madoka is far greater than her good deeds.
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>>101915802
It's what she deserves but no what she will receive, she is going to have Luminous she like it or not.
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>>101916031
Those aren't Madoka's words, they are the words of a man on the internet.
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>>101915802
Do you really have to do this everyday
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>>101916114
Homura is a good girl who did nothing wrong.
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>>101916031
>not using healing powers to donate vital organs over and over again
They're all selfish cunts.
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>>101916045
Well, good that this isn't heaven and are just couple problems.
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>>101914349
Series said 'fate worse than death' and 'unable to be perceived by anyone'. Also, the translation of Urobuchi's words from Animedia 6/11 is awful. When he says Madokami takes the girls away to a new universe, he's talking about the new world that incorporates the Law of Cycles.

Nothing in canon supports or denies an afterlife. Mami's words in the hallucination scene lean toward an instrumentality-like existence.
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>>101916327
>Series said 'fate worse than death'
Homura said that. Madoka disagreed. I'm more inclined to take the opinion of the person who's actually experiencing it.
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>>101916327
>Mami's words
This is the important part, anon.
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>>101916191
>Sayaka gains healing powers
>Wants to save people
>Goes to hospital
>To see some faggot play violin
Is this justice?
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>>101916384
Their opinions aren't going to change based on who is experiencing it or not. Madoka is the one in favor of enlightenment and nirvana after death, and Homura is in favor of rebirth. I'm not expressing my own opinion here, I'm just clarifying what goes on in the canon and what is said.
>>101916410
No, the important part is that it's not actually Mami, it's Madoka's hallucination, as laid out in the script.
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>>101908792
I too watched Madoka recently and really liked it. Was I the only one who saw Sayaka's death flag for a pretty long time?
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>>101916466
>uses healing magic to help random people in the hospital
>found out by doctors, they flip their shit
>government kidnaps her and dissects her to find the source of her powers
>she cracks under interrogation and reveals the whole magical girl system
>magical girls are hunted down and used as human batteries or weapons
>arms race of magical girl utilization worldwide
>Magical World War Three
>world is plunged into a thousand years of darkness
Yeah good fucking job dude
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>>101916466
Right!? Why not make a wish like, "I wish everyone in the hospital was cured!" at the very least?
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>>101916653
She's just Sayaka, she probably didn't have the karma backing her up to make such a wish.
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>>101916644
Actually the world would operate under equality of hope and despair as it always had.
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>>101916644
Still better than canon.
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>>101916644
Oh fuck, good thing Sayaka is an idiot or we might have had WW3 and 1000 years of darkness
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>>101916706
She has regenerating organs either way.
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>>101916706
We'll never know because she didn't try.
In the first place though, it wouldn't be any greater a 'justice' because hope only leads to despair.
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>>101916827
She barely has enough magic to kill witches, you think she can afford to grow new organs all day?
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>This image
I'm not falling for your ruse OP.
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>>101916867
She has enough magic, she's just too stupid to know how to use it efficiently.
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>>101917012
That doesn't make any sense.
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>>101916201
Couple problems involving heaven and earth. Some things are more important than love.
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>>101916916
>207 posts and 83 image replies omitted
You sure stopped that ruse right in its tracks.

(Come on, /a/.)
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>>101916756
Sayaka's so smart, she saves the world on levels even she's not even aware of. Truly the hero we don't deserve.
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>>101916644
>>magical girls are hunted down and used as human batteries or weapons
But a single meguca with time manipulation powers could kill billions of humans on her own.
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>>101917479
>a single insane meguca with time maninpulation powers kills billions of humans in a misplaced gesture of retaliation
>the remnants of humanity are set back by centuries
>world is plunged into a thousand years of darkness
Yeah good job dude
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>>101917479
Homura wouldn't do that though because she's a good girl.
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>>101914914
You're also assuming that Madokami is no longer sentient. All Homura took was the human record of Kaname Madoka. Madokami's existence and memories as a magical girl should still be part of her. And it better fits what we saw of Madoka being split; both parts of her were alive and reacting to it.

Anyway, I find it more poignant that Homura rejected the goddess who truly understands her (and is now left watching her helplessly) for the girl who doesn't know her at all.
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I really like this kind of doujinshi. What kind of fanwork do you prefer /a/?
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>>101917805
You like bizarre fetishes that make you want to be done with anime and manga in general?
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>>101917660
I also find it 'poignant' to reject canon.
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Homura only wanted Madoka to be happy.
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I just marathoned all 12 episodes this morning, should I have watched the movies?

Also what was up with the last 55 seconds?
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>>101908792
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Eh?
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>>101917660
The human record of Madoka also should have the memories of when she was a magical girl and Homura simply erase them to fit her needs.
There are only two possibilities, either Madokami is really a concept now that has no conscience, like gravity, and therefore doesn't care about the souls of magical girls or Madokami is a god that has no human emotions or don't understand them and has no interest in human life apart from her work (like QB), in any case the result is the same, Yuri Valhalla is no more.
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>>101917658
Unless they hurt her Madoka.

Besides, other megucas already feed humans to familiars until they grow into witches. If humans were trying to kill or enslave them, megucas would have no reason to save humans at all.
>oops, I left this bag of fully charged grief seeds in the subway station during rush hour

>>101918148
IIRC they designed her wings like that purely because they looked cool, but it kinda points to rebellion too.
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>>101918148
>Also what was up with the last 55 seconds?

Retroactive foreshadowing for Rebellion.
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>>101918214
The fact that Gertrud's familiars are collecting flowers for her strongly suggests otherwise.
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>>101918148
Nah you did it right. You can watch the movies later for a rewatch.
Last 55 seconds? Depends on who you ask.
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>>101918302
Gertrud's familiars were in the command of Sayaka, they were trapped in the barrier of Homura just like Sayaka and everyone else.
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>>101917805

I like it when they keep true to the shows art style.

Love Me Do!! was amazing and even colored.
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>>101918424
link?
>>101917923
I mean things that make me laugh: comedy, slice of life, extrange plots, bizarre jokes, etc. Not only porn
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>>101918678
Sexualizing the megucas is unacceptable at all times.

Would you have lewd thoughts about a Madoka and then hate yourself for being a pervert and a terrible friend?
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>>101918808
Sorry, man. Being like Homura surpass my tastes
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>>101918405
>Anthony's carried the roses to Sayaka's house because now she is her master
>Anthony's will wait for a reward that will never be because nobody can see them
Such is the fate of the best minion.
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>>101919033
>tfw Homu's Clara dolls are bullying the poor Anthonys
>tfw they're kicking them around while yelling GOTT IST TOT
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>>101919290
They actually wiped anthonys army in battle with Homulilly.
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>>101919491
Clara dolls are the best familiars by far, but bullying Anthonys is still not okay. Madokami would not approve.
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>>101919708
Clara doll's are bullies and ugly, Anthony's are loyal servants and fluffy. Anthony's are clearly better.
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>>101919910
Clara dolls are loyal to Homura too, they just acts like that because Homura is crazy and wants so. And they are strongest minions by far.
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>>101920086
Their loyalty is questionable at best and doesn't change the fact that they are bullies.
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>>101920172
>Anthony are loyal
>left Gertrud for Oktavia
>left Oktavia for Mami
>left Mami for Aku Homu
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>>101919910
Clara dolls are cute, for familiars at least. Homu's hair is the softest thing in the universe, so her familiars don't need to be fluffy. They're only bullies because Homura hates herself.
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>>101920259
They didn't let her, Gertrud gave their families to Sayaka to rescue Homura, I don't know what Mami has to do with this.
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>>101920288
I want to touch/brush Homura's soft hair.
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>>101920462
I want to run my fingers through it while I hug Homu close enough to feel her heartbeat and tell her everything is going to be okay
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>>101920636
I want to hold Homura's hand while stroking her beautiful hair and gazing deeply into her lovely eyes.

Those were my posts last night, I too want this so desperately ;_;
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>>101920845
Too bad you aren't Madoka and can't never do that.
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>>101918678

dynasty-scans
dot
com/chapters/love_me_do

features SayaKyou and a Homu in the beginning. And Sayaka a slut - like literally too. Which was the only part that bothered me.
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>>101921127
But Sayaka is literally a slut, anon.
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>>101921126
Please, someone change that woman with a sadfrog image
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>>101921127
>>101921220
To be fair, her entire motivation was D, then it was V.
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>>101921408
>wants violin fag's dick
>uses her wish to fix his fapping hand
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>>101921573
Nobody said she was smart.
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>>101921635
Sayaka just wanted to be loved, anon.
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>>101921903
Sluts don't want love, they want sex, they are two different things, anon.
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>>101921903
If only she knew how loved she was by all of the white knights around here.
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>>101922037
Then you born that way?
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She is so cute and beautiful.
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>>101922037

>Implying pure Sayaka knows what sex is
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>>101922655
>pure
I wonder how many boys she's tricked with the whole regenerating-hymen act.
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>>101923005

You digust me, anon.

Maybe you're homu does that. But not Sayaka.
She is the kind of girl that would like to cuddle instead going full frontal into the sheets.
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>>101923206
>you're
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>all this shitposting
Average madoka thread.
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>>101922655
Please, Sayaka obviously made her wish thinking of the D.
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>>101923264

Dude...
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>>101923302
Don´t you mean average thread in /a/?
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>>101923332
She's pure, anon. Why would you delude yourself into thinking a pure maiden such as Sayaka would even consider such a tainted thing.
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>>101923771
You are the only delusional here, anon, Sayaka even died because she couldn't have the D, she's a slut at heart.
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>>101923913
You are disgusting and repulsive, please cease to exist.
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>>101923913

She died because she felt worthless not having her soul in her body which totally wouldn't break you in one way or another if you were a 14 year old girl.

Where is that pic from?
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>>101924021
I'm sorry you can't accept reality, anon.
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>>101924067
HomuSaya doujin where Homura basically makes Sayaka into her love slave. Better than it sounds.
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>>101924173

You wouldn't happen to be able to provide me with a link?
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>>101923206
Why is Godoka always molesting everyone? She even molests herself! Does her lewdness know no bounds? No wonder Homura took action, she's a mad rapist!
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>>101924232
Search for Homura and Sayaka on sadpanda.
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>>101924067
That's definitely a 'get the fuck over yourself, this changes nothing' kind of thing. Like, if I found out people have souls I'd be fucking jacked. There's an afterlife? Fuck yeah, time to live it up!
But no, Sayabitch can't be content with having existential reassurance because she's always greedy for more.
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>>101924067
She died because she couldn't have sex with that body, she thought that Kyousuke wasn't into necrophilia.
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>>101924315
>There's an afterlife?

Not anymore, a certain devil killed that off to complete her pussy quest. Whore.
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>>101924093
Don´t declare your delusions as reality, dude. It´s not healty for yourself
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>>101924693
Is the heart that wished for this world so sinful that it needs to be judged?
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>>101924840
Yes, it does, it's blasphemous towards Madoka's hope and desecrates everything Madoka wanted both for herself and the world. And Rika was a bitch too.
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>>101924840
Yes. There´s only one God that the world need, her name? Madoka
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>>101925066
Sadly, your shitty opinions aren't relevant.
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>>101925707
>get told
>ignore it

What Homura did was an unforgivable waste of Madoka's salvation, and her motivations are definitely not so pure as living a happy life. Madoka would be disgusted, and rightfully so. She'll burn in hell for all eternity for her sins, and Madoka will look down on her with contempt and pity.
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>>101924315
>Like, if I found out people have souls I'd be fucking jacked. There's an afterlife? Fuck yeah, time to live it up!
That's retarded.
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>>101925816
>This time, the first half of the story takes place in a very odd little world.
>Urobuchi: It’s an idealized world that Homura dreamed up. Deep in her psyche, Homura probably wanted to do all this.
>So, she wanted to join forces with the other magical girls and fight enemies together with them?
>Urobuchi: Everyone was called into the barrier because she wanted to “play” like that.
>So what are the Nightmares?
>Urobuchi: When you take the lid off that box, they’re just made-up obstacles that Homura created for the magical girls to fight. Probably due to Homura’s wistful thinking that it’d be great if only magical girls got to fight something like these instead of witches.
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>>101926016
>So what are the Nightmares?
>Urobuchi: When you take the lid off that box, they’re just made-up obstacles that Homura created for the magical girls to fight. Probably due to Homura’s wistful thinking that it’d be great if only magical girls got to fight something like these instead of witches.

This is why I think that Homura would try to replace the Wraiths with Nightmares, and it explains what she was talking about "becoming your enemy" to Sayaka: Homura would be the one creating the Nightmares, so she'd be the enemy of all magical girls.
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Why didn't madoka wish to reverse entropy?
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>>101925924
I don't know what you took from that post, but I'm just saying that not only is there no logical reasoning that supports the thought that having your soul separated from your body is a terrible, awful thing... but if you find out souls exist, isn't that cause to be mirthful?
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>>101926016
So? What does that have to do with her becoming a devil? Her dream world was innocent, her devil world is not. It's built around a betrayal, a desecration of salvation, and brainwashing. All so Homura can be in control and get back at the universe for her own ineptitudes.
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>>101926148
Right, and meanwhile she fights all of the wraiths on her own with Kyubey on her shoulder because she's a silent-scapegoat heroine.
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>>101926285
Normally you'd figure a post this fallacious is a troll and ignore it, but the majority of Madoka Thread traffic is tumblr teens, so you can never tell.
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>>101926408
It's the Homura Hater troll, who's been shitposting nonstop on how she's a monster who needs to die. I can't tell how serious he really is, but it doesn't matter since it's all bait anyway.
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>>101926285
Good morning, sunshine.
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>>101925707
neither yours, faggot
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>>101909032
You don't "agree" with that. It's a fact.
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>>101927066
That's why I don't post them.
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>>101927326
>>101925707
wtf, dude. Seriously
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>>101910082
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>>101926408
How is saying that what Homura did was a treacherous betrayal fallacious? She can barely keep control of the world, she has to give Madoka a new life away from her friends, she has to mindwipe Sayaka, and she has to torture the Incubators. This is only a good world on the surface, once you look past the empty smiles and rewritten, too-perfect lives you see that it's a hell without any salvation ruled by a girl who effectively killed god.
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>>101928164
I wish I was board enough to explain to your how stupid you are.
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>>101928243
Well whatever, I'm just sick of seeing people undermine what she did to Madoka and the world.
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>>101928560
Okay. Just know that your post is full of bullshit and we can call it a day.
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>>101928560
Apparently you're really sick of it since you've been on this bender of shitposting against Homura for like a week straight with very little downtime.
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>>101928560
What's to undermine? Worst-case scenario, Homura's actions create a conflict which results an overall better world compared to what Madoka or Homura could do alone.
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>>101919910
And they also have a cute mustache.
Objectively superior minions.
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>>101928981
No, the worst case scenario is Homura becoming essentially the Spiral Nemesis and unintentionally (or intentionally, who knows) destroying all of reality.

But that's not likely to happen.
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>>101928981
Because it's not a simple kiss and make up scenario, Homura's actions deeply impacted the world and damaged Madoka's afterlife, Homura herself has sunk to the lowest possible form for a selfish goal and Madoka will have to endure a great deal of misery to oppose what remains of her friend, something she should never have to do.
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>>101929731
>Homura herself has sunk to the lowest possible form for a selfish goal
Your bias makes you difficult to take seriously. You leave out so much it's ridiculous.
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>>101908792
Kaitlyn?
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>>101929731
Yeah, you definitely don't speak for Madoka.
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>>101919910
Clara Dolls are cute as fuck.
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>>101929838
She's become evil itself and her goal is imposing her will over the world to keep her Madoka.
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>>101931715
>her goal is imposing her will over the world to keep Madoka safe and happy.
ftfy
inb4 she's deluding herself she just wants to fuck Madoka
Fuck off retard.
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>>101908792
>https://archive.foolz.us/a/search/image/J1MJjZ2NtTFzusvtUgfS9Q%3D%3D/type/op/page/12/
>289 threads, started with this image,
>1082 days since its first use in the OP
>one thread, started with this image, every ~3.74 days
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I just discovered this show a week ago. I wish that I had discovered it while it was still being released so I could enjoy the hype and the daily discussion and prediction threads.
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>>101934887
>I just discovered this show a week ago.
Have you, perhaps, been living under a rock for the past 3 years?
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I had always heard of it and seen threads on here, but the art style always threw me off so I never took a look at it. But my friend sat me down and made me watch an episode with her, and I was hooked by the end of Madoka's dream.
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>>101935367
>not liking wide
It disgusts me that these people exist.
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>>101935074
>>101935367

Fuck, meant this as a reply
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>>101935458
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>>101935458

I'm still not a fan. But the witch scenes easily make up for it.
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>>101935367
>>101934887
Newfriends pls
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homura a shit



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