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>"I hate anime. I think its an abomination. The industry doesn't mean what it used to mean. It was originally in the hands of teams and clubs who would actively expand the concept of the game for their nine - 13 year old audience. That was completely what they were meant to do and they did it excellently. These days, anime thinks the audience is certainly not nine to 13, its nothing to do with them. It's an audience of largely 20-, 30-, 40-, years old men usually men. Someone came up with the term anime industry. These fans latched onto it; they were simply interested in a way that could validate their continued love of K-ON or Yuri Yuri without appearing in some way emotionally subnormal. This is a significant rump of the anime-addicted, mainstream-addicted audience. I don't think the anime stands of anything good. I think its a rather alarming sign if we've got audiences of adults going to see the Madoka movie and delighting in concepts meant to entertain the 12-year old girls of the 1980's"
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>complaining that anime is no longer just kids shows designed to peddle plastic toys and cards
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>using quotes in a quote
Cool story bro
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That sounds retarded.
1) Anime is not mainstream.
2) The fact that you think it's supposed to be for little children does not mean that it can't be used to entertain adults.
3) K-On! and YuruYuri in the same vein? Have you no clue at all?
I'll stop here, but really, this comment is fucked up.
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>Writer/Wizard/Mall Santa/Rasputin impersonator
That shit never fails to amuse me.
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>>101900606
Alan you're lost clearly Grant has befuddled your wits.
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>Implying his opinion means jack shit
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>>101900606
Who are you quoting?
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>>101900798
Alan Moore. Duh.
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>>101900606

Why did you used a moore pic ?
Just to gain attention ?
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>>101900724
Who are you quoting?
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I don't think Moore actually said that.

In any case, I couldn't care less what anyone in the American comic industry actually thinks about anything.
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>"I hate movies. I think they're an abomination. The industry doesn't mean what it used to mean. It was originally in the hands of teams and studios who would actively expand the concept of the game for their 18 - 40 year old audience. That was completely what they were meant to do and they did it excellently. These days, movies think the audience is certainly not 18 to 40, its nothing to do with them. It's an audience of largely 15-, 17-, 21-, years old men usually men. Someone came up with the term movie industry. These fans latched onto it; they were simply interested in a way that could validate their continued love of summer blockbusters or chick flicks without appearing in some way emotionally subnormal. This is a significant rump of the movie-addicted, mainstream-addicted audience. I don't think the movies stands of anything good. I think its a rather alarming sign if we've got audiences of adults going to see the summer blockbuster and delighting in concepts meant to entertain the 15-year old children of the 2010's
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>>101900758
It's funny because only one of those things is an edit.
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>>101900758

And the most important thing is that the first two are true.
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>>101900606
source
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>>101900606
>expand the concept of the game

get better
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>>101900840
Nobody, bugger off
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>>101900886
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>>101900606

Kid before trying to troll you should inform yourself, since alan moore likes to write erotic stories about eldritch abominations.
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>>101900886
There isn't one.
Alan Moore was talking about capeshit in the west and OP replaced it all with references to anime.
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Sort of agree and disagree. His argument is composed mostly of generalizations and assumptions.
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http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2013-11-25/entertainment/chi-watchmen-creator-disses-superheroes_1_alan-moore-superheroes-green-lantern

He actually said this about superheroes, and he's pretty much spot-on.

Super heroes are the reason so many western comics are fucking shit.
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>>101901067
Cute girls are the reason so many anime are fucking shit.
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>>101900606
I don't see what the problem is. Anime is something people enjoy. It had no biological affects on the human body and doesn't encourage people to harm others.
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>I hate /a/. I think its an abomination. The board doesn't mean what it used to mean. It was originally in the hands of of teams and clubs who would actively expand the concept of the anime discussion for their 20-, 30-, 40-, years old men usually men. That was completely what they were meant to do and they did it excellently. These days, /a/ thinks the audience is certainly not men, its nothing to do with them. It's an audience of largely nine - 13 year old. Someone came up with the term IRC. These fans latched onto it; they were simply interested in a way that could validate their continued love of shitposting without appearing in some way emotionally subnormal. This is a significant rump of the shitposting audience. I don't think the /a/ stands of anything good. I think its a rather alarming sign if we've got audiences of kids shitposting and delighting in concepts meant to entertain the 12-year olds of the 1980's
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>>101901107
Replace that with Battle-Shounen Protags and I'll agree with you
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>>101901107

>Cute girls are the reason so many anime are fucking shit.

But liking cute girls is more emotionally mature and timeless than getting excited about Superman beating up bad guys he disagrees with. It's also an indisputable fact that moefags are vastly superior in every way to capefags.
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>>101901166
It's not emotionally mature. Most of the time is creepy as fuck.
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>>101901107
Welcome to /a/ newfriend I hope you enjoy your stay :^)
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I don't think the guy who wrote Lost Girls would have any right to complain about animu.

Also, no source is just maximum faggotry.
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How can someone who made a very successful and popular cape comic hate cape comics?
It's like making tofu and hating on tofu.
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>>101901127
>It had no biological affects on the human body and doesn't encourage people to harm others

You mean you haven't heard about the roving gangs of waifufags over in Japan that kill each other over who has the best waifu?

Just in the past month, there were like three major waifu battles in Tokyo between the West Ryuuko Gang and the Eastside Satsuki Clan.

People die over cute girls almost every day, bro.
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>>101901107
>>101901067
Good thing we have superheroes who are also little girls.
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>>101901249
Or writing a book on politics and not being serious about it.
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>>101901107
>implying shounenshit is not
wow
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>>101900606

says the comic book writer. any medium can be mature, it is all about how you use it. also, there is nothing wrong or subnormal with enjoying arguably immature things now and again, although i will agree that there are a lot of people who take that idea to far and never grow up, and that the modern anime community has a few to many of those people.
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Reading about fully grown adult men in tight furry suits punching, grappling and wrestling each other to the ground is gayer than an all-male orgy.
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>>101901166
Yeah, I actually have to agree. They're probably 1% more mature.
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>>101901024
would alan moore like anime or manga?
Jiro Matsumoto and Dowman Sayman are better than any comic book writers.
moore would be a better fit if he was japanese.
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>>101901319

Again, he's talking about cape comics. The manga industry is basically what Moore wish had occurred in the west, from what I hear.

But let's be honest: There's literally no advantages to "growing up" or becoming "mature".
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>>101900606
nice capeshit pasta remix faggot
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>>101901422
>There's literally no advantages to "growing up" or becoming "mature".
True that, everything starts to go downhill when you 'grow up'.
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>>101901067

>He actually said this about superheroes, and he's pretty much spot-on.

meh, it really all depends on how you use them. i mean, there really is no functional difference between superheroes and some of the heroes of classical era literature. i mean, tell me, what precisely is the difference between hercules and a superhero, and why is one ok and not the other.
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>>101901249
he got fucked over hard by DC comics. I don't blame him, but I also don't take him seriously
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>>101901295

It goes without saying that manga and anime have done everything western comics and cartoons have done, only far, far better.
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>>101901249
by not making any money from it.
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>>101901214


hey, sometimes mature is creepy. face it, humanity has a long standing tradition of the old lusting after the young, creepy or not, it is relatively normal.
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>>101901555
Hardly. Independent Western comics and animations shits all over most anime and manga.
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>>101901524

Well, for starters, Hercules isn't featured 7000 different continuities written by 500 different writers.

Hercules also does things that don't automatically involve defeating a bad guy with morals the protagonist doesn't agree with, or an edgy antihero version of such for the manchildren.

But, you know, by your musings, there isn't much difference between mythology, theology or Batman.
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>>101901524
Hercules completed his 12 tasks in an epic journey and was renown for his strength and courage in the face of adversity.

Modern superhero has no 12 tasks.
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>>101901609
This is not mature. It's just creepy. And worse even, portrayed as something completely harmless.
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>>101901555
Let the shit flinging begin.
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>>101901660
>.jpg
>not true transparency
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>>101901422
I bet alot of comic artist wish comics had a bigger influence like anime and manga

As of right now its hard to make an original comic story without staple DC or Marvel superheros and make it popular so all we get is the same people doing the same things

Its kinda like if japan made 30 versions of one peice and aired them in the same season
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>>101901634


dude, you just said "superheroes" as in "heroes with super powers" don't get bent out of shape with me for your poor definition of terms.
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>>101900927
Pleb.
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>>101901703
This is simply not true. Independent comics are pretty popular nowadays.
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>>101901726
Outside the US.
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>These days, anime thinks the audience is certainly not nine to 13
>I think its a rather alarming sign if we've got audiences of adults going to see the Madoka movie and delighting in concepts meant to entertain the 12-year old girls of the 1980's"
I love it..
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>>101901657


i never pertrayed it as harmless, i portrayed it as normal, there is a vast difference between the two. also, creepy and mature are not mutually exclusive.
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>>101901743
Image, Dark Horse.
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>>101900606
nice Ctrl+C pasta
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>>101901763
It's portrayed as harmless and often desirable.
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Isn't it particularly amusing how the "Madoka movie" and "concepts meant to entertain 12-yeay old girls of 1980's" is in the same line?

If anything, the third movie is the furthest thing from the latter.
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>>101901807
>Image

Really?
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>>101901838
>anime based on selling cute girls
>making cute girls look desirable
No way.
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>>101901382

Are there any japanese authors, nay, japanese people with a beard as big as moore's?
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>>101901859
Yes?
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>>101901865
Unfortunately most anime are based on this.
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>>101901936
>Unfortunately
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>>101901936
>Unfortunately
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>>101901950
Yes. It makes anime really bland, uninspired and simply not interesting for people looking for good entertainment.
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>>101901936
>Unfortunately
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>>101901961
>>101901975
>look at me copying what everyone else is doing!
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>>101901936
Gay.
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>>101900606
He is right. He should not be right.
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>>101901214

But liking cute girls isn't only natural for males, it's inevitable. Why wouldn't men like the idealized, highly-distilled beauty of moe girls?

I have no idea how someone could enjoy watching cape stuff ad nauseum. It becomes impossible to take the idea of a disguised vigilante fighting bad men seriously beyond a certain age. It just becomes impossible to seriously transpose something so silly and vapid into a serious work. Look at the Nolan movies; entertaining, sure. But they take a lot of mental gymnastics to take seriously, by any measure.

Sure, some capeshit might try to just be action and flamboyany bad guys pantomiming the same boring cliches for the sake of fun, but this doesn't really have any inherent value or identity to it that cannot be better done elsewhere. It does not necessitate caped crusaders.

Want kinetic, entertaining action? What do you need a super hero for? Hollywood bleeds movies for you. Want a despicable, morally-repugnant bastard to hate? What do you need supervillains for? Actually, how can you even believe in the existence of purely immoral, "evil" human beings beyond the age of 10? How could you find them compelling whatsoever?

I suppose you could argue superhuman powers combined with this are a big draw, but then why would you even bother with the tired, unimaginative tripe that is western superheroe comics? The most pedestrian of battle shounen introduces more interesting, exotic powers, and plenty of cartoony one-dimensional characters to boot. You could pick just about any character from JJBA and they'd have an ability that'd embarrass any power DC has come up with.

But cute girls DO necessitate what they are in. You cannot achieve the essential and refined beauty of 2D girls outside of 2D. And what develops visual cuteness? That's right, situational cuteness. Cuteness as a result of personality. Cuteness as a result of character interaction. Cute girls doing cute things is necessary to achieve "moe".
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>>101900606
>I think its a rather alarming sign if we've got audiences of adults going to see the Madoka movie and delighting in concepts meant to entertain the 12-year old girls of the 1980's
That's a real fucking neat opinion he has there.
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>>101902032
>I have no idea how someone could enjoy watching cape stuff ad nauseum. It becomes impossible to take the idea of a disguised vigilante fighting bad men seriously beyond a certain age. It just becomes impossible to seriously transpose something so silly and vapid into a serious work. Look at the Nolan movies; entertaining, sure. But they take a lot of mental gymnastics to take seriously, by any measure.

oh man wow sounds EXACTLY LIKE ANIME
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>>101902032
>Cute girls doing cute things is necessary to achieve "moe".

Characters in anime use moe interchangeably with cute.
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>>101902093
They're teenagers, not grown adults.
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>>101902032
>Why wouldn't men like the idealized, highly-distilled beauty of moe girls?
Because it's getting quite boring if every anime with cute girls is similar.
>I have no idea how someone could enjoy watching cape stuff ad nauseum.
I don't like cape stuff. But don't you think the same thing applies to harems or other dull genres?
>And what develops visual cuteness? That's right, situational cuteness. Cuteness as a result of personality. Cuteness as a result of character interaction.
Except many times this cuteness feels very artificial, fake, unrealistic and often cringeworthy.
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>>101902032
>tries to talk about how superhero movies are uninspired and boring
>watches SoL moe
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> I hate having sex. I think it's an abomination.
WHO CARES.
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madoka is shit
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>>101902032

While I could believe that a man who enjoys seeing cute girls doing cute things could enjoy a range of other media and works, I cannot picture the same for someone who seriously loves superhero stuff. It requires a certain level of intellectual immaturity and inexperience to find the themes entertaining, and the more base satisfaction yielded from the fights and superhuman powers can be found done far better, and in great supply, almost anywhere else. What this means is that the superhero fan must be either be incapable of finding something better, indicating genuine stupidity, or that they find the themes satisfactorily interesting, well-written, and compelling, at least at some level.

Watching moe anime satisfies a base urge related to the worship of human beauty that has existed throughout the ages, and boils it down to a finely-packaged product. Even if it tends towards being uniform in many ways, it's core strength is not in narrative but in the development of "idols". Would you fault a man for finding an attractive female enjoyable to look at? Would this be much indication of his other mental faculties and capabilities?
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>>101902152
It's not an abomination. You create abominations.
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>>101901214
Seems like you have a case of female mentality.

It's creepy because it's the enemy, the competitor for the male's attention and his wallet.

Nerds often lack girlfriends because women have problems accepting males having interests other than them.
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>>101902131
Not any less difficult to take seriously.
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>>101902173
stop posting holy shit
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>>101902139
Then for every 2 anime series watch a western movie or play a game to have some variety. That's what most of sane people do instead of whining on imageboards.
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>>101902209
I'm more into movies than anime. Yes, I do have plenty of variety. But not from anime.
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Anime is appealing to Working class men!
We can't let slaves have entertainment!
Don't wake up goyim!
The harder you work the more TV and anime you NEED.
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>>101902228
I'm so sad to hear that. Poor little you. What can we do about it?
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>>101902201
Kids and Teens have a different mentality on "justice" than adults.
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>>101902139

>Except many times this cuteness feels very artificial, fake, unrealistic and often cringeworthy.

This is not an inherent fault of "cute girls doing cute things" but a fault of individual works.
The faults of cape comics, however, are inherent in the definition of such.\

>>101902142

It's not my fault that you can't enjoy something that is relaxing and down-to-earth over a silly circus of explosions and animal-themed costumes.

While both may be produced for manchildren, one audience is certainly much less capable of digesting intelligent media.
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>>101902183
>Nerds often lack girlfriends because women have problems accepting males having interests other than them.
It can't be because you're a poor, ugly fucker can it? It can't be because you have zero confidence and have never actually approached a woman in your life, can it?
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>>101902205

>le epic /v/ meme

It's hardly surprising that you can't formulate a response to defend your love of garbage.
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>>101902299
That doesn't make it any less insipid.

>it's difficult to watch because adults

It's difficult to watch teenagers too.
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>>101902325
>It can't be because you have zero confidence and have never actually approached a woman in your life, can it?
Those things have no importance in matters of love. If you'd actually watched anime, you'd know that.

>poor
Say that to my collection of figmas, BDs and manga.
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>>101901107

There are more anime than just cute girls and far more manga.

Anyways, this shit threads is just a retreading of the shit miyazaki threads
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>>101902382
Sure. But the anime industry is oversaturated with stories about teenagers for teenagers (or immature men).
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>>101902303
Why does watching SoL make you any more intelligent than someone who enjoys superhero movies?

Both genres are overdone and they both usually have outcomes that are predictable, they're just catering to a different audience. You watch SoL to be entertained, others watch superhero/action movies to be entertained. Nothing more.
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>>101902363
>Those things have no importance in matters of love. If you'd actually watched anime, you'd know that.

Now we know yous be trollin.

But, really, the parimary reason any male would be without a female is because he is either ugly or poor. It almost never has anything to do with their interests. They don't give half a shit about you jerking off to anime if you're attractive or have loads emone. They might even try to feign an interest in it so you'll pay more attention to them. I've seen guys that love anime banging smoking hot bitches because they themselves were attractive. It helped that they weren't bitter cunts, too, but, that's not a prerequisite.
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moore hates everything
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>>101902497

Read my previous posts.

It's not that they watch superhero shit to be entertained. It's that they can find it entertaining in the first place beyond a certain age.

The admiration of beauty, on the other hand, is timeless and not unique to a specific age.
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>caring about what other people think
Come on now
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>>101901249
Watchmen is a critic and deconstruction of cape comics. It takes the different ideas of a cape comic hero and plays them in a naturalistic light, thereby bringing out the inherent contradictions and flaws in there.

I think Alan Moore used to have a love-hate relationship with cape comics - he loved the medium, and only ended up writing cape comics because that was what the industry WAS back then (most of his stuff even before watchmen wasn't cape). After Watchmen, he got it out of his system and it could move on to just being a hate/hate relationship. He grew up.
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Wow such batman clone so mature
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Warren Ellis is better anyways
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>>101900606
Are you sure that's a alan moore quote, it doesn't sound like a subject he'd give two shits about.
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>>101902669
It's not, he just posted a picture of Alan Moore to get attention from retards like you.
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>>101902565
Most anime characters aren't beautiful, but cute. They don't act like mature women or even young women. They act like little kids - like 8-9 year olds.
There is a reason why people call anime creepy.
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>>101902522
No he doesn't he hates capes. Capes are not everything. This isn't /co/, anon.
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>>101902368
i cant stop thinking about the bush she would have.
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>>101902723

Cuteness is a form of beauty, anon. Can you think of a beautiful woman that is not awful cute in some way? Feminine beauty necessitates cuteness.
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>>101902636
>deconstruction
If people get angry about the usage of that term in reference to Evangelion, then I can complain about people using it in reference to Watchmen.

Deconstruction has a really stupid/vague definition to begin with, but simply taking the staples of a genre and applying them with a grim/pessimistic outlook and tone isn't deconstruction.
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>>101900749
Anime is very mainstream. It's like any form of media. There is a mainstream part and an underground counterpart
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>>101902793
Then what is it hotshot?
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>>101902793
I agree, but Watchmen actually was a deconstruction. I don't think EVA was, by the way.
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>>101901875
They lost the ability to grow facial hair after loosing WW2.
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>>101902513
Banging random sluts isn't love, that's banging random sluts you retard. Would your hot friends ever even consider marrying one of these "bitter cunts" and having children with them? No. And like the average male, the average female is absolutely fucking retarded. Normal fags do in fact shun ANYTHING they find odd or strange, cause they're so fucking brainwashed in the West. They don't even try to understand anything. Anything even remotely taboo, they avoid it like the plague due to social standing. The primary reason any male OR female who isn't a normal fuck wouldn't be without a partner is because why in the fuck would you want to be in a relationship? Keep in mind, this only applies to the USA. I don't know about any other countries, but people here are just awful.

It seems that your concept of love is that of a normal fag, fuck off.
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>>101902873
people there*
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>>101902782
Of course. It's called femme fatale. Puppies are cute, little kids are cute. Women should be beautiful or sexy.
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Who's the Alan Moore of anime?
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>>101902793
>simply taking the staples of a genre and applying them with a grim/pessimistic outlook and tone

That's not what a deconstruction is, you fucking idiot.
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>>101902943
Miyazaki.
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>>101902723
There are instances of both. People are hardwired to feel warmth and want to protect little kids so having idealised characters in anime is fulfilling some basic human need.
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>>101902943
Satoshi Kon.
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>>101902821
Addressing realistic consequences that would normally just get swept under the rug for viewer convenience. A deconstruction isn't just "Take this premise and turn it grimdark."

Most mutants in x-men would kill or permanently cripple themselves with powers like "turns his own blood into molasses" or "turns his eyeballs into stone" since the vast majority of mutations would be detrimental. A deconstruction would address that fact instead of ignore it.
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>>101902943
Richard Stallman
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>>101902943
>>101902973
>>101902995
>not Anno
Seriously he's the japanese version of Moore
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>>101902995
These guys might look good if they didn't have the most disgusting facial hair.
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>>101903016
That isn't what deconstruction is, but it IS what Watchmen does. Have you even read it?
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>>101902959
Isn't that exactly what he said?
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>>101903016
You kind of just described Watchmen
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>>101900606
Here's the actual interview.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EuBFd1rlWWA
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>>101903043
I haven't read it. I was just clarifying the meaning of the word.
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>>101903021
Whatr would an anime by Richard Stallman be like /a/?
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>>101903034
Well you don't have to worry about how he looks anymore because he's dead.
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>>101903016
Watchmen is about the cultural and psychological impacts of real Superheros in the real world, circa the Cold War. Instead of focusing on petty material shit like that (though it does go into how an omnipotent superman style character would change the face of war), it instead looks at what that'd do to the psyche of a nation, and what the kind of people who became cape heroes would actually be like.
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>>101903089
Where you the anon that got angry at the use of it applied to Watchmen? If so, kill yourself. If not, go about your business.
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>>101902873
>Bawww, no one UNDERSTANDS me and my DEEP LOVE because they are so stupid and brainwashed!
>Blah blah blah generalizations about the western world
>I've lived in a tiny corner of the US most of my life and I know everything about females because I browse /pol/ and /r9k/ and they say that they are whores
>Why can't I find a special snowflake like me?

Calm down, Chris-chan.

There's no such thing as "love" as described by your romantic stories, nerd. It's a dramatization of sexual attraction combined with a desire for longterm companionship. There's nothing wrong with that, but you should probably try to see it for what it actually is instead of letting the mountains of romantic media you've consumed confuse you into believing something else.

If it was just a desire for companionship and a deep fondness for another person's personality, gay couples would probably be the de facto binary relationship in human society.
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>>101903097
Girls und Distribution
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>>101903109
>>101903059
>>101903043
Why the hell do people think my post had anything to do with Watchmen? I'm confused for real. Did I respond to the wrong guy, or what? He said "What is it?" in response to the meaning of "deconstruction," so I gave an example.

Holy shit, you guys.
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>>101900606

This is a completely retarded pasta. What he said was spot on for cape crap, editing it for anime is idiotic.

There were plenty of anime aimed at adults since forever. In 80's most anime were gory semi porn OVAs aimed at 20-30 year old men.

And mahou shojo was always popular with adults.
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>>101903052

I'm not sure I'm who you think I am, but a deconstruction is taking something and exploring it in realistic terms to come to expose it's logical absurdities.

That's not the same thing as a "pessimistic, grim outlook".
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>>101903205
>That's not the same thing as a "pessimistic, grim outlook".
Yeah, that's what he said:
>>101902793
>simply taking the staples of a genre and applying them with a grim/pessimistic outlook and tone isn't deconstruction.
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>>101903179
Uh, look at what the post you were replying to was replying too. You took the place of an anon in the string of conversation who was talking specifically about Watchmen. Don't you ever look for the context when you jump into an argument?
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>Lego The Movie is better than any anime in the last 3 years
How does it feel?
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>>101903236

Then I guess I don't know who he is, holy fuck this thread is a mess.
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>>101903285
Lego The Movie is better than any movie in the last 3 years, period.
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>>101903285
Feels great. Nothing wrong with Legos.
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>>101903279
Not usually when there's a question as simple as "what is ____?"
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>>101903104
HAHAHAHAHAHA
Good riddance >:)
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>>101903285
I liked the movie, you can't ruse me.
Plus what>>101903330
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>>101903205
>but a deconstruction is...
A deconstruction is literally what it says: taking something apart. It's a form of criticism. It has nothing to do with realism or logic. It's basically looking at something from your own perspective and presenting that as an argument.
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>>101902873
Fuck off. Theres no such thing as love. Love is a disease Big Brother uses to brain wash people.

Casual sex is the best kind of pleasure. No strings attached no emotion, just pure pleasure. /a/ is so lonely they believe love is good. Love is a lie, and your waifus are whores and bitches.
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>>101903351
Well when you don't, don't get all buttpained when you don't understand what everyone is talking about.
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I really like Watchmen.
Sage for not animu
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>>101900606
Why Alan Moore? You should've used a Miyazaki pic for more gullibility
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I hoped the BBC called this guy out on his bait.
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>>101903285
>last 3 years

You mean 10 years right?
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Moore pls
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>>101901166
>moefags are vastly superior in every way to capefags.

I'll have to agree with this one.
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>>101903285

>Lego: The Movie

How can something like that possibly be anything but awful?
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>>101904031
His opinion isn't even controversial; it is the normal one to hold. It is only unusual among people who have made such success in the comics industry; most people don't have the balls to speak out on it, or were just hack fanboys to begin with, and that is why they ended up in that position.
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>>101901249
Alan Moore made watchman to show the glaring inconsistencies of caped heroes and how absolutely insane caped heros are.
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>>101904285
He really missed the point of porn with this.
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>>101903285
feels great. Legos a best
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>>101904352
Writers from Clone High, and a decent cast.
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10/10

inb4/after shitstorm
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Sorry but

What right does this guy have to call anyone emotionally subnormal?
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>>101903285
I didn't watch it yet, should I?

It's getting a lot of attention apparently.
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>>>/v/231190891
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Did he say this before shit like Kill la Kill?
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>>101903097

His actual favorite anime is Utena.

I imagine if he made an anime it'd be about gay dwarves flying around a castle and informing the inhabitants about the intricacies of dwarf culture, correcting them impolitely and autistically about their misconceptions.

Also, the dwarves, while defining themselves as homosexual, do not have sex. It is revealed in the end that dwarves cannot have sex, because they are actually grown in geodes by other dwarves.
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>>101904670
He never said this
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>>101901726
>Independent comics are pretty popular nowadays.
If they were popular, they wouldn't be independent.
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>>101904685
>His actual favorite anime is Utena.

I demand source on this
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>>101904882
They aren't really independent, independent just means not DC or Marvel in american comic book terms.
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>>101904670
Kinda
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>>101904625
>having a santa/Rasputin beard means you're emotionally subnormal
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Fuck you shaggy stallman clone.
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>>101902973
He doesn't have everyone and everything.
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>>101903356
>>:)

fuck off
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>>101900606
Thats funny. Because those are actually good Anime. When I hear the term "Anime" now a days all I can think about is Homestuck, Video Games, My Little Pony, etc. etc.
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>>101905400
>>>/v/
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>>101901382

>would alan moore like anime or manga?

The only manga he's ever referenced (as far as I can tell) was Lone Wolf, which he praised for the storytelling and visual techniques.

But as with everything else, I think he might appreciate more alternative, creator-driven works, but would probably hate the mainstream, mass market-driven stuff.
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>>101905400
What's funny is that people still takes Moore as relevant, and into topics his opinions have the same weight as that anon right there.
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>impying this isn't just your own shitty opinion tacked onto Alan Moore's creepy bearded skeletor face.

I award you no points, op
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>>101905301
tfw he calls himself a wizard.
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>>101900606
Jeezus man, madoka was not for 12 year old girls that shit was dark.
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>>101905454
>alternative, creator-driven works
that are actually the best japan comics have to offer. sincerely, I really don't know how someone so tied with american comics can criticize the mainstream anime audience, considering that hardcore comic fans are ten times worse at least
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There's the fucking same thread on /v/, /co/ and possibly other boards, and everybody fell for it.
gj OP
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>>101905628
This is a criticism of American comics he said edited to be about anime.
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http://myanimelist.net/animelist/Ruggarell
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>>101905628

>I really don't know how someone so tied with american comics can criticize the mainstream anime audience

...You do realize OP's quote is an edit of a quote about cape comics, right?
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>>101905681
oh, I see...
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>>101900935
Nigger you can't be serious.
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>>101905701
gomennasai its years that I'm out of comics
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>>101905301
>comments
>doesn't know the first thing about Moore
dude is batshit friend.
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>>101900606
1) he never said this
2) this is his v vendetta interview
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>>101905301
He practices "Chaos Magik" which is british for sits around doing lots of drugs and sex while thinking it changes reality on a large scale.
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>>101905869
>3 hours in
>When it's already been proven that it's fake
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>>101905903
Sorry I didn't read through the 50 mile long wall of text like a good boy
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>>101902636
nah he always loved capes, he actually had a superman story in the works which was supposed to be super lighthearted, he just hates he assholes in charge of the companies.
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>>101901273
I wish
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>>101900606
>mall santa/ Rasputin impersonator

heh
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>>101900852
>Alan Moore
>American

u wut m8
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>>101905893
The man is obviously mentaly deranged. I dont see a reason to discuss this on /a/nim/a/y /a/nd M/a/ngoes
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>>101906197
He's popular because of a lot of the work he did for the american market, not that he's British himself.
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How many boards have you posted this on Italy?
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>>101900606
Sauce?
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>>>/v/231190891
>>>/sp/44774219
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did alan moore say this? because he's a terrible writer just like everyone involved in american superhero comics.



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