Why didn't they just destroy the bridge?
Because the Eotena would just walk into the pits until the pits were full and then walk over them.
Because you need to be near the bridge in order to do that, the instant trost was attacked, the titans poured in. They couldn't reclaim the area because people suck at fighting titans.
That one nigga doesn't give a shit about the bridge.
You could set the bridge on fire with some arrows or something.
Or aim a cannon at it.
the hole would have to be at least 25 meters deep otherwise the titans could climb out like in the pic
Why didn't they dig a deeper hole?
Why don't they just live underground?
You can't really dig a 25m deep pit at the base of a wall just sayin
Or on boats.
Why didn't they build pillars in the open spaces so they could use their 3DMG's more effectively?
You can when your walls are made of magical titans.
Why don't they just make an ocean palace, like out of that Chrono Trigger thing? Or make it fly? No-one could get them then.
Or in space.
It's more like a bowl than a flat wall.
Why didn't they dig a pit like that half way between wall maria and rose? Fill the bottom with barbed spikes so the Titans get stuck.
Are there titans on the moon? They could live on the moon.
I hope you made the pit out of titans too because 25m of dirt won't stand up on its own either
Because that would require them to actually be competent.
It doesnt matter since the Armored Titan was inside the walls
Or they could have done a draw bridge. It's not like there was a HUGE area to cover anyway.
It's titans, they have proven to climb stuff eventually.
All that destroying bridges would bring would be more time to fix the wall.
Titan IS the moon. They're fucked.
Some titans can jump.
Can't dig too deep because that underground shit city.
>Have pits at entrances
>Place draw bridge
>In pits have gas operated, retractable blades that are positioned at the neck heights of the most common titan sizes
That wasn't so hard now was is?
Why don't they have portable cannons and snipe the backs of the neck? Why stupid swords all the time? Is Japan still in love with samurai/bushido propaganda that was invented during WW2?
Everyone in this series who dies, deserved to die.
>set it on fire with arrows
Great, now you have FLAMING titans thundering towards you.
>or aim a cannon at it
I don't think they can unlatch a cannon and turn it around to shoot BEHIND the wall.
Why don't they just live on top of the walls?
But there's Bert
Why didn't they tell the wall cults to suck dicks and build sky bridges that would connect the various walls.
Use a cannon from a different part of the wall.
why didnt the live underground?
It'd be fucking hard to shoot a moving target while you're moving yourself. Flying, no less. Also you have to completely destroy the nape, as in make a deep, long cut. Not just punch a hole in it.
You might argue that making explosive shells would've done it, but that would make spiderman antics even more hazardous.
they would just end up piling the body's high enough to walk over them
there dosnt seem to be a shortage of titans.
Why don't they have steam power? Why aren't they using their compressed gas for other things? Why do they have knowledge of advanced engineering techniques and metallurgy but still live in the dark ages?
The fuck can that lanky faggot do. They can easily kill his ass if he didn't always run away after 10 seconds.
>it'd be fucking hard
So instead we will fly around and hit them with SWORDS. Brilliant, m8. 10/10. Stop defending this series. You are worse than the StarWars Prequel defense force.
Just make a huge trench and fill the bottom with those pulverizes they shred cars up with at junkyards.
But Titans evaporate when killed.
Lack of manpower. If the soil is rough, it takes fucking years to do that.
Your ever-constructive input is appreciated.
with all the stone they dug up to build the wall there must be a hole they can hide in some where
>Because the Eotena would just walk into the pits until the pits were full and then walk over them.
did not think of that
>it takes fucking years to do that.
They had 100.
Who ever made this shitty manga obviously has shit all knowledge of engineering.
otherwise they would realize that firearms would be pretty fucking common if 3D maneuvering devices and gunpowder (for the cannons) exists.
Yeah, at least swords will make sure that they stay down. No need for double-tapping or wasting more rounds if you miss.
>StarWars Prequel defense force.
You mean to tell me that people actually defend the prequels?
They had guns, and they did fuck-all beyond temporarily blinding the titans.
Why don't they develop useful things instead of utility belts to be pseudo-spidermen?
Why doesn't Eren just go alone to his basement? Surely the Titans won't notice one person sneak by and if things go bad he can just Titan form his way out of there, right? I dropped this around episode 20 and never touched the manga has he gotten to the basement yet?
Go to the RedLetterMedia reviews and read the comments. They exist in droves. You can find them by searching for the word "epic". They love that word.
They didn't expect the wall to be breached. Stupid I know, but hey, it worked for a 100 years, why not another 100?
And it would do more harm than good if it wasn't put to use immediately. Imagine all the 'accidents' of people falling to their deaths.
We, in our time, have trouble digging tunnels trough mountains at a reasonable pace without extreme machinery.
If you don't have elevation in the first place to remove mass, you can't use explosives for it either. You need to find a way to dig down, remove large boulders and stonemasses, and do that, for several kilometers.
Its a public project that is insanely expensive. There is a reason trenches are rarely more than 3 meters tall on good soil.
>stone they dug up to build the wall
>search for the word "epic", they love that word
I-I think I'll pass, thanks.
They had a plan to get to Wall Maria in one night. They decided the Wall Cult was more important. Why didn't they do this, and just spend the next day relaxing on top of the wall, then go to the basement the following night?
Antimobility devices would be effective in this situation.
After the titans are immobile it would just be a clean up operation
So these people are so advanced, right?
A modern group of 100 low level PMCs could fix this problem and these sword-waving idiots can't manage to pull Titan feet out of their ass?
>Why do they have knowledge of advanced engineering techniques and metallurgy but still live in the dark ages?
Thats what people did, far into WW1 and beyond, in Europa.
The only difference was the infastructure improvements the car and electricity brought.
Why do they use swords?
Why not use the propellant they're using to boost around to shoot a sword right into a titan's weak point
Why engage a titan from close range at all
The humans blow at making effective weapons, everything is designed for maximum casualties. Maybe that's the tweest.
why didnt they go look for a naturally built cave?
>everything is designed for maximum casualties. Maybe that's the tweest
It probably is.
They're just being sarcastic... right?
The propelled sword would have to be accurate and given a proper shot from behind the titan.
Not to mention strike within a second or two of eachother. Remember Sasha hacking that titan's neck as fast as she could, but it kept healing between the strikes.
>climb up outer wall
>Have Eren jump down and seal both exits from inside
>clear out the town
>find out what's inside the fucking basement
Do they even care about the basement now? I don't recall it getting mentioned in a while.
The folks within Wall Maria, Rose and Sina are all obviously Middle Easterners.
If we remember, Middle Easterners used to be technologically advanced and were at the bleeding edge of society.
And then religion hit. And all advancement ceased. And then they went backwards. As well as their ability to make war.
This lines up with why the townspeople and their military are so consistently garbage.
>don't know that even if Titans have a sixth sense to find humans
titans regenerates fast enough to render a double strike with an axe useless (chapter 36)
And going with a small group in the basement is already planned.
Is amerika-kun lost again?
They have lots of cannon. They shoot them at the titans. The titan regenerate and give no fucks.
Their technological curve is supposed to be fucking crazy.
They have a gas-propellent system of maneuvering, and molecule-thin blades that don't dull due to simple air resistance while they're flying around.
So part of their technology is super advanced, while part of it isn't. That's okay.
Now for what's not okay.
He also doesn't know anything about physics. That maneuver gear would cut through your spine like it wasn't even there. You're applying pressure unevenly, even if it's all over your body, you're not in a chamber where it's all applied evenly. Hence, the spine cracking and the dying.
Also, humanity is fucking stupid. It did not occur to them ONCE to take pot-shots at the Titans with their high-explosive cannon rounds while they were still outside the wall. Thinning their numbers, strategy, technology... Nope. Just throw more bodies at it so we can have more murder porn.
No tears. Only Troubles.
Explosives are not advanced in any way.
Their military just sucks. They should have been beyond iron cannon balls by now.
Why not build trenches? Trench warfare, only that there are very tall mounds of dirt at the back.
Titans fall in the trenches, people get a bulldozer thingy and bury the fuckers.Stack rocks or something on top. Titans can't move without sunlight. Problem solved.
They only evaporate when killed. They'll just be stuck at the bottom.
Fill the pit with lava.
Why don't they just invent fighter planes and shoot the titans down from the skies? A barrage of 30mm cannon rounds is probably enough to turn the neck into a fine mist.
They have gunpowder and know the weak spot of titans right? Why don't they send suicide squads carrying barrels of the stuff to explode in the titan's neck when they bite them?
Although, you'd think that they would come up with RPGs or something similar if they tried. At least those ought to buy them some time.
No lava. No drills to reach lava.
They're busy with their angst and shitty scouting formations.
I think you seriously underestimate the power of a projectile. They've clearly got a large amount of a powerful fuel on hand, they could easily use it for pressure launchers. One shot from either side would obliterate the back of the neck, and with enough mass you could cut clean through the spine
That's not to speak of all the other alternatives to getting into close range with a titan ever.
They are almost at 1820s level of tech. The entire premise of the manga is that they are too far away in the tech to clean up the mess, but they got a few working things.
A modern civilisation, or even a WW1 civilisation would be able to deal with the issue quite rapidly.
Scout legion is in a lot of ways a sick joke
>Can't bring along enough infastructure to set up cannons
>Not given explosives as defaut weapons
>Has breed running ponies just so they can explore the outworld
>The sword are gigantic razorblades, designed to be quite brittle
There are tons of them. You forgot how large the walls are.
They basically house a entire fucking country. Which is why the breach is a big deal.
>molecule-thin blades that don't dull
Razor blades existed back in the 1800s.
The entire point is that they do dull, or break. By design. So they can be sharp before that.
> It did not occur to them ONCE to take pot-shots at the Titans with their high-explosive cannon rounds while they were still outside the wall.
Thats litterally the wall legions job. To do that.
Except they can still thrash around, walk up to a 10m Titan while it's rolling around and swinging its limbs.
What I always wondered was why recruits didn't get grenados to take the titans with them if they got nommed.
Or why it didn't occur to them to PACK GUNPOWDER A LITTLE TIGHTER and make FUCKING BOMBS.
They have blast furnaces, fill the pits with molten slag.
Do you think titans or shifters at least can get sick?
>What I always wondered was why recruits didn't get grenados to take the titans with them if they got nonmed
I suggested this once in another thread; they told me that it's not a good idea to fly at high speed carrying explosives.
They do have planes, but they sent them along with their floating island to fight the savages at the holy fountain. I bet they regret it now.
It's not a good idea to fly at high speed, period.
You're only one idiot away from discovering bombs when you invent cannons, and they have an abundance of idiots.
It's not a good idea to fly around at high speeds like that to begin with.
Not a good idea to fly at high speed carrying huge box cutters either. They're already suicide squads.
If I had to sit on a wall guarding against enemies that couldn't possibly breach it for a hundred years I'd probably be bored enough to dig a 25 meter trench all the way around the city. What the hell else am I going to do? It's mind boggling that no one in their history ever questioned their defenses or where they came from.
They were all too busy worshiping them apparently.
Why can't they launch bombs from the cannons? Or sling some crack-a-booms? I always see the Titans charging at the walls with their mouths gaping wide; just chuck a bomb down their throat and enjoy the show.
The titan loses most of its mobility, half the fight is over. You don't need to get near the titan at all, why would you? Build a mound, cover the mound in anti-traction material, place concertina wire at the base of the mound..done. The titans can thrash all they want in razor wire. This is totally doable even with their whack tech
Why don't they build armor for Eren when he turns into a titan? Or have him carry a cannon so he can just shoot the other titans?
Sounds like something that is not suggested due "old time generals". But yeah, good one.
They try to. It needs to hit the lower neck to work. Thats hard to do.
They probably don't trust him enough.
Why don't they build titans out of walls?
They're uneducated. Only their elite seem to have any fucking idea what's going on in the slightest.
Or Armin because he has moe power.
why dont they just use the EVA's to stop the titans?
If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
>Oh look everyone, giant walls that can keep the titans out. We shouldn't question this, but just worship them instead, I mean, its not like we should come up with a worst case scenario in case the world goes even more bat shit insane.
I still like the mango.
>Titan Eren with cannons strapped to his shoulders and a loading team hooked into him with their 3DMG
The first volume extras mention he had someone else design the maneuver gear for him because he doesn't know shit.
This is what the endgame for the manga is going to be. I think.
I would end up doing shooting contests once enemy titans came into fire range.
Well yeah, they need to hit the lower neck to kill it permanently. But a bomb exploding in your belly can't feel too good. At least it should bring them down on their knees, or split them in half. Then ups with the sword and finish the job.
He kind of degenerates into a wild beast after a certain number of consecutive transformations.
>loading team hooked into him with their 3DMG
I assumed he wasn't going to be able to turn back when he first went titan form and this was gonna be their plan. Then it didn't happen.
Why don't they make him a Titan sized sword?
Because that was anime original. No bridge in manga.
Just look at it, a shitty wood bridge like that wouldn't withstand Eren in his Titan form carrying that fucking boulder.
Good job WIT.
A blazing sword. He could wear voltron style armor and people could ride in his chest.
Hell, someone call up Max Brooks. He'll come up with some strategy that would take these fuckers down with minimal casualties.
>At least it should bring them down on their knees, or split them in half.
Fast regenerators regen up in a minute. And remember: The titan is not disabled from losing everything from the abdomen and below.
The same about losing the head. All that happens is that it has no vision or native hearing.
How about nets? Get a bunch of strong, weighted nets and throw them on the Titans. They'd struggle and get themselves tangled up. Then just walk up and chop away.
Would a .50 cal rifle kill a small titan? maybe a 20mm shell for bigger onws
>And then religion hit. And all advancement ceased. And then they went backwards. As well as their ability to make war.
>religion hit, and all advancement ceased
You realize that the middle east was the one of the most advanced nations in the world AFTER Islam was already widespread thru it. Not to mention religion has always been there. Religion didn't do anything, but rather it was that europeans didn't have to rely on middle easterners as the only route to asia, thats what started thier deciline. With that, new ideas were not constantly flowing thru the countries like they did in years prior. Then you have europe getting out of the middle ages and hitting the Renaissance and the scientific revolution. That and new thought in warfare and weapons, esp advancements in leading armies and muskets allowed the west to finally return to being the pinnacle of humanity. The only real relevant middle eastern power was the Ottoman empire, and it took hundreds of years after the fall of Constantinople, one of the most important cities in europe, to even be able to finally fight them off
We are coming.
We are hungry.
We are here.
Why didnt they put lava in the hole so they would melt like I did to the one ring in mount doom
READ THE MANGA
Autocannons would shred titans to pieces.
Don't throw that "fedora" shit on this board.
What else did they change?
DO they have Volcanoes inside the walls?
>implying Eren wouldn't go into a mad rage and fling the armor and gun at people.
But seriously. This thread.
>Applying real world logic to a show made for entertainment purposes.
Why don't they use electricity for other things?
Well they should have thought of that and built their dumb city around a volcano.
>Not knowing about Mesopotamian religion in 2014
You would think they would have at least hot air balloons by now. But nope, let's just keep sending the SL on ground based suicide missions.
Hey, it's fun to throw ideas around. It's like discussing what you'd do if the zombie apocalypse happened tomorrow.
If a titan swallowed high explosives and it blew it up such that it turned into a fine mist, launched the head into the stratosphere and the bits and pieces were flung hundreds of metres away, will you see the titan reconstitute itself out of thin air?
Since the titans are so light why didn't they leave a single gate opened so all the titan would funnel towards it and then build a jumbo springboard out in front?
>mount this onto the walls
>fire it at titans
BRRRRRRR, titan is ded
>Launch hot air ballon
>The winds are unfair
what the fuck is a causality conductor?
I think this thread proves one thing; humanity would never be put into this situation because we are the apex predators. We will trap and kill anything and everything! The only thing that could stand a chance against humanity is humanity itself. The titans are mindless eating machines, they wouldn't last a year. In fact, humans are so good at trapping and killing that I am 100% certain that we would find a way to use titans for something..domesticated titans would probably happen IRL. Not really sure what we would use them for, but we already claimed domain over the most effective (mammal) hunters. Think about that for a moment; we had seen this crazy effective hunters and decided to domesticate them to help us hunt.
Except there has never been a point in recorded human history where man had a grasp of technology and economy while also facing a threat like this at the same time. Yes many diseases. But never a point where people were boxed into a place terrified of an outside living force. I do wonder what discussions would be like if it really was the 1800's. Of course not through the internet but still.
It's anime. You're expected to turn off your brain when watching.. or you're going to have a bad time.
The one retard titan who managed to fall in anyway gets me everytime
And? It'd still be at least dozens of titans fewer.
>implying sticky bombs
Awww, yes, forgot about magical rocket propelled grappeling hooks napoleon was using.
>Have specific sections of the wall designed to attract Titans and reduce strain on the rest of the wall
>Not having proper evacuation plans in place in case of a breech
>Not even having a area where citizens could get on top of the wall in case of such a breech
>Having probably the most half assed counter measures in place in case of a breech
Did the people in those outcroppings even realize they were living in a death trap all you can eat buffet?
Anime logic 101: Spend hundreds of years building huge countermeasures, don't think about contingencies. FUCK LOGIC!
Would they really need to burn them still? why not just make a giant guillotine over the pits that can be released and pulled back up from within a fortified room? that way the pits could fill with titans during a breach and a dude safely tucked away could just keep emptying the pits out for more titans to get in. the blades could be replaced and repaired by elevator, also out of reach of the titans. it's the perfect system there can be no denying it.
...You do realize they didn't even build the walls right? Creating massive guillotines is likely beyond their technology level.
They have no problem making smaller blades. Is it really that hard to make a small blade and just up the numbers to build it? I realize they didn't build the walls, but the walls aren't exactly impressive on their own. They just can't be broken by regular titans, they aren't even indestructible as the BRA proved. Just needs a whole lot of power. It doesn't even regenerate either that's the sad thing.
Humans meanwhile, on their own built jetpacks to fight the titans using natural gasses and well honed blades. I'm sure a giant guillotine is not outside the realm of possibility. Especially with that fucking harpoon cannon they tried to use on Annie? That shit was all hanjis invention I believe. So the humans can just build giant pits, and hey you know what? use that dirt to build a big dirt wall on the other side of the pit, so titan stacking can't ever become a huge issue unless nobody is paying attention at all.
So don't give me that balogna.
Why didn't Eren just roll the boulder? Would've taken less strength than carrying it over his head.
they literally shoot a cannon at Eren right inside the wall
Where the fuck did that boulder come from?!?!?
>embarking in an area without a volcano
>there was never a point in human history where humans fought enemies that defy the laws of physics
ironically, I believe they had that boulder pre dug a while ago to block the hole the armored titan made in wall maria, like the actual wall maria and not just the wall to shiganshina or whatever.
When the wall to trost broke they just figured, shit, might as well use it now.
They did actually have a plan to retake Wall Maria, you know. Eren is paraded as the last hope for humanity, but after years of work and maybe a few thousand military sacrifices, they could have reblocked wall maria and then worried about shiganshina later. You could argue that the CT and AT would just attack again, until all 3 walls were broken, without giving humanity the time they needed to repair the broken walls and get back on their feet, but consider this also- the first time CT showed up? huge confusion. the second time? things were organized, the retreat of citizens was planned and they were gearing up for the AT to attack at any time. The third time they attacked? The colossol titan would have been dead meat had he stayed very much longer and reiner would have probably been able to escape since in the world of SNK, he's pretty much indestructible with his armor. And I'm pretty sure he can breathe fire, unless that is anime only.
unless you're Oda Nobunaga, you only pick one
That's true. We really do have it easy. Imagine if the real enemy to humanity was some giant intangible being that was constantly observing our every movements to analyze us for our strengths and weaknesses so in like 1000 years or some shit it can destroy us perfectly? That'd suck, not a whole lot we could do.
The little sign at the bottom apparently says that this rock was here when the walls were found.
bet that rock is a titan
People shouldn't even LIVE in shiganshina. It should just be like, farms only. That way when titans invade people are still safe inside wall maria and would have time to evacuate safely. Japanese are fucking retarded at strategy.
At this point I'm willing to bet that the fucking ground is Titans. We already have memory manipulation and mind control, with strong hints of time travel or future sight.
Yet they have machines that can compress and store gas, as well as specialized blast furnaces that makes their space age blades and the ability to produce thousands of miles of ultra-lightweight cabling.
While it isn't exactly the on the same level, I feel that it is similar to siege warfare. Isolated entrenched population, I feel that some of the same lessons and theory could be applied here. Technologically they are on a similar level if you disregard the outliers, it wasn't long into that period when we started to discover what worked and what didn't work. I mean they have shown signs of a more critical defense in the way they have multiple walls, outward facing weapons, and troops in a garrison...that is a multilayer defense, that was critical in the days of siege warfare. It isn't like they are facing an army with trebuchets, sappers, siege towers, ect.. In so many ways defending against the titans would be vastly easier than defending against an invading army. The problem really comes from the internal sabotage, which was also a major problem in all human conflicts. So much about the situation would be easy to deal with when you consider the enemies limited abilities in combat; the only thing the titans have is their size and their durability..but fighting them would be like fighting someone with cerebral palsy. They lack all critical thinking ability, simply meaning that they would walk right into whatever trap you set.
did you read the Digger sidestory? the ground is made of titans too
>stone they dug up to build the walls
Boy, you're in for a surprise.
Does anyone remember when this manga was at least semi-normal.
I feel like all this weird shit has made it lose its charm.
I was gonna drop it this month when I saw Geographia erase Historia's memory, but then Erwin went all Che Guevara and I kind of want to see that play out.
That the thing about the old man who trys to dig under the wall only to find more wall, then get disappeared with his friend?
Don't worry, Monkey Trouble will give Eren Titan-sized 3D Maneuver Gear and he'll fly around and kill Colossal Titans like it ain't shit.
>I was gonna drop it this month when I saw Geographia erase Historia's memory, but then Erwin went all Che Guevara and I kind of want to see that play out.
Wow. I stop keeping up around chapter 40 something, but that convinced me to leave it dropped.
Did the author originally plan to go in this direction, or do you think the popularity got to him.
I hope not.
The revolution I get because from the beginning you can tell Erwin hates having to send people to their death because the powers that be are afraid, que Armin yammering about change and sacrifice, but all this magic shit is just killing it. Although, HUGE points for giving Armin the power to give people the gay.
first off let me start by saying nice trip trips, on to my main point, he's definitely been planning to go in this direction from the beginning, I can say without a doubt. While I hope he isn't taking it in this weird memory "it's all a dream" bullshit direction, its obvious he's been taking it from the beginning as the very first moment of the series is eren waking up from a weird dream and asking mikasa about he hair, saying it looks different. It'll probably be the last thing revealed in the series as some big twist but frankly, I hope it's dropped entirely and ignored, it just seems so fucking stupid.
Why didn't they build zeppelins and fight the eotena from them?
Considering they "20%-30%" of the soldiers whose only job was to stand on top of the walls and distract the Titans from a boulder, do you really trust putting them hundreds of meters in the air?
because monkey trouble would just throw rocks at them to knock them down.
Considering they LOST*
I think it's time for bed.
Why didn't they use selective breeding to create a race of 20' tall superhuman warriors?
Also the titans ignore animals so why didn't give those fancy blades to a squad of trained monkeys?
No monkeys in Germany, anon.
then why is there monkey trouble? answer: they aren't in germany, they are in south africa.
can't help but laugh knowing annie turned this dude and his gay horse into a pancake
They are in a island
now that's just stupid
If this was France the titans would have won already thanks to all of the humans surrendering
The walls are a metaphor for the maginot line and the titans are the germans.
If the titans are the germans then why are the humans so smart if they represent the French?
3DMG was made by a genius way ahead of his time and people aren't smart enough to make it better.
The walls are actually titans.
Implying king isnt feeding BT
>Why not use the propellant they're using to boost around to shoot a sword right into a titan's weak point
Because a single slice does absolutely nothing. Titans just heal around it. They need two swords to cut a large chunk out (or a cannon to blow it apart).
Sasha goes after a small one with an axe at its weak point over and over, but because it's only one cut at a time, it instantly heals.
Geo erased Historia's memory? I must have read a subpar translation, it didn't seem like that at all. I thought Historia just didn't have clear memories of her because she was very young at the time.
Also, wouldn't the ammo for 3dmg cannons be really heavy? You'd either have to carry little ammo, or have your speed/mobility reduced.
Why they don't have a technological research division?
So the consensus on the pit thing is that the titans would just pile up in the pits until they could walk over.
Wouldn't that be a huge advantage given that it's intended to delay titans for evacuations?
They do. They made the 3DMG after a hundred years.
You mean like this?
Fuck man, that would take us at least, twice that to design.
There was a coup d'etat arc in Muv Luv as well. He cannot even at this stage stop copying Muv Luv. Well, I guess it has worked out for him quite well so far.
They came from outer space!
The wall isn't just vertical. Digging deep enough only results in hitting the part that extends horizontally underground.
they basically live in a giant pot without the lid
Why didn't they just make the defense like this?