shit, it's so well made I believed it
Thank you Based KyoAni
Honestly this could really be their best work if the ending wasn't retcon shit
still the best OP and ED
Are you high?
this needs funding
this needs a movie or two.
>so well made
>shitty niconico-level typesetting
>A typical basement dweller who goes out of his way to criticize everything just to feel better about himself like he knows what he's talking about
>There's nothing but praises on comment section
You're simply jealous and frustrated that you don't have this level of video editing skills. Or any kind of skills for that matter.
The only way you can prove me wrong is by making a video that's better.
oh shit my bad, you can't.
>yfw this will hardly get a second season ;_;
Also Mitsuki best girl
It doesn't take a carpenter to recognize a poorly made table.
Dunno about that. Kyoani seems to be really protective of their original shows. We thought nobody really cared about Tamako and Chu2, but they got a movie (in progress) and S2, respectively.
Kyoukai no kanata was unforunately a really.. really bad series and did so many mistakes. But what ever, that first PV was great.
Kyoani does what they want when they want, so don't lose your hope just yet.
I remember when I was looking forward to this anime. Why did it turn out to be so shit?
it doesn't take a philosopher to recognize a bad opinion either
What? Where did they retcon? What are you talking about?
A change of director, time management issues, deciding to bullshit the ending... a combination of things. It could've been so much better.
Too high expectations. It was by no means shit, but people got too hyped when they only got a "normal" show instead of the expected masterpiece. And it's either "10/10 AOTY" or "utter shit".
That whole thing where
>"hurr I never mentioned before, but I have a secret power to absorb Kyoukai no Kanata with a cost of my life"
>"no, I'm alive in this spiritual world and still fighting Kyoukai"
>"I'm dead now for real"
>"LOL I'm alive"
yeah I agree. That was some bullshit right there. Also nothing was solved at the end because KnK ended up staying in Akkey's body.
That's called a plot twist. It's an important part of storytelling that you'll see more of when you read books and watch more shows and stuff. Just keep working at it and you'll be up to speed in no time flat.
It stops being a twist when the show keeps changing the established facts and starts introducing bullshit without proper explanations. "oh yeah, don't worry about it. Your questions will be answered by the end!" doesn't cut it if it doesn't happen.
>that's called a plot twist
it's called shit writing unless it's hinted at some point.
Are you a fucking retard? Did you pay any attention to what happened in the last 3 episodes? This was expected to happen, it was Izumi's theory. The ONLY thing in your rambling with a hint of legitimacy is her final return, which was left ambiguous - but it was clearly explained how youmu come into existence, and you surely are aware of the general consensus on what happened, right?
I swear to god, I have never seen /a/ so retarded before as with this show.
You're getting it wrong. Mirai actually being Akihito's hunter; that's a twist. (not a good one though)
Mirai suddenly having a supernatural power who can die and come back to life multiple times for no apparent reason, is NOT a twist. That's the worst thing any narrative can do for storytelling.
I liked stripper bro
I wouldn't really have imagined so many people getting so confused, even when a lot was clearly spelled out. It's mindboggling. It's like those "Why she stab him, lol, she must have no reason despite the ambiguous dialog, instead it must be shit writing, herp". What a disgrace.
>come back to life multiple times for no apparent reason
This takes the cake. It's as if people were playing vidya besides "watching" the show.
Well, I guess a lot of anons got confused by the first dream sequence. They thought it to be real and Mirai "died". Trolls did the rest. Everybody got confused.
>Trying to defend a shit plot
You do realize that general consensus is that last 3 episodes are precisely what ruined this show, correct? If you're content with one side character in the show suddenly introducing superpowers that are never hinted before -something that MC wasn't even aware of- is enough justification, you really need to work on your logic and taste. Besides, the author is still working on the LN, so at this point in the time nobody has answers, even Kyoani.
Just be mindful that all you think is true is simply your theory, and it's far from the truth.
>it was clearly explained
no, NOTHING was clearly explained, and that just goes to show that the plot was shit. If you honestly believe Mirai is reborn as a youmu or some other stupid, unsupported theories, you have a lot of work to do. Please stop embarrassing yourself for your own sake.
>hurr I understand everything about this show. It's just 2deep4u.
Truly a mind of 12 year old.
Actually, you're wrong because the stabbing part was clearly explained. Ambiguous dialog? What are you talking about? Akihito KNEW that some Ikaishi (who are not familiar with his immortality) mistake him for a Youmu in disguise and thus want him dead. It was explicitly mentioned that Hiroomi attempted to kill him when they first met. So it's no surprise that Mirai attacked Akihito in the first episode because she's new to the town and therefore doesn't know the whole situation around him. (which was not the case, as shown in episode 10, but that was a twist. The point is it was clearly explained and justified to the audience)
You really didn't know this?
Your troll brigade doesn't form a consensus, especially not after the nonsensical barrage of "Why she stab him" and "episode 7 and still no overarching plot!!" that was the exact same idiotic attitude as you show now.
>one side character in the show suddenly introducing superpowers that are never hinted before
Which "side character" do you speak of? Please learn to express yourself properly if you want to be understood, as I give you the benefit of the doubt not to be so retarded as to consider Mirai a "side character".
>at this point in the time nobody has answers
The directors have them. Sure, you can allege they did not think at all, but the previous episodes clearly showed that they did NOT just have Mirai stab Akkey for no reason. As said above, you only assume - just like I. So you shouldn't pretend there is no reason, no justification, when the show clearly and explicitly offered such an explanation. Your refusal to apply it is basically your own problem, not one of the show.
>NOTHING was clearly explained
Full retard. Sorry, if you actually claim the show did not explain how youmu come into existence ... that's just too much. Fucking troll.
>stupid, unsupported theories
How is this theory stupid? How is it not supported? Mirai's clan was said to have youmu blood already, you just need to connect the dots. You're either too stupid or too stubborn to do so, but again, you seem to be some kid that NEEDS everything clearly shouted in his face to get it.
Right back atcha, kiddo.
Oh god, it's the retard who can't into subtlety and needs everything spelled out for him again.
I remember looking forward to it.
Then I remember enjoying it.
Then I remember lots of shitposting from people who clearly didn't watch the show or didn't pay attention to it because they just wanted to yell about how shit it was without watching it.
But I still remember actually having some very high quality threads while it was airing, and I'm looking forward to season 2.
>A change of director
No, that's the LN. In the anime Mirai was brought to town to kill Akkey. That was her motivation. In the show, she didn't want to keep being a spirit warrior but was forced by Izumi.
You seem to confuse the LN with the show.
>I swear to god, I have never seen /a/ so retarded before as with this show.
I've seen people who can't follow romcoms.
Please don't respond to anyone who claims the ending didn't make sense. Obviously it didn't have the emotional impact the last few episodes did and felt like a bit of a letdown, but anyone who's screaming about how the whole thing is shit and the ending was an asspull either was too stupid to follow it, is just looking to shitpost or both.
>You do realize that general consensus is that last 3 episodes are precisely what ruined this show, correct?
Except the last 4 episodes were literally the best part of the show. Holy shit you're retarded.
I really liked this show, the characters were cute and the romance/plot had a lot of potential, but the ending really ruined it. Also kissu where
>"I know how to connect the dots!"
>"Mirai's clan always had youmu blood!"
>not providing any evidence or explanation
>"B-because Izumi said Mirai has supernatural powers, I'll taker her word for it!"
yeah, that's what's considered 'unsupported' in real world, retard. Autism is strong in this one.
You really need to learn how to craft arguments with evidence, kid. You still go to school?
Remember, even if the show explains all the pieces that you can draw a conclusion from, it's all fanwank bullshit unless it explicitly states it in the form of out of place hamfisted exposition!
But seriously, if that's the way you think you might want to try Naruto.
Same here. The speculation threads were great.
>500+ posts of discussion, screen caps, theories, etc. with no shitposting
>Thread reaches limit, make a new one
>Continue until show ends
>"Hurr no one liked it stupid Kyoanus shit doesn't make sense!"
Great fanbase, easily one of the worst hatebases I've ever seen.
Keep on reading. "Time management issues" - I guess his dad works at KyoAni.
Now that I think about it, there was an interview where the director said he talked with another about the show, maybe that got stuck in this anons head as "change of director" somehow - because some other director made some suggestions.
Those three weeks between episode 8 and 11 were fun, the speculation train was going at full speed and the threads after episode were just amazing.
You're clearly projecting, as with the rest of your nonsensical posts. This show is like a mirror, anon-chan: If a monkey looks in, there won't be a monk looking out.
Get some treatment for your ADHD, and you will even understand shows that now are clearly - beyond your boundary.
I honestly wanted her dead. What shitty desu ex machina crap.
"Do you know how many times they tried with Munto?" -Anon, Feb 2014
They had sever different directors work on it, he's just being a retard.
I remember wanting Mirai dead and Aki's mom to show up and kill Izumi after the reveal. Then episode 10 flipped everything on its head. Easily my favorite one, but the directing during the last few fights and Akkey and Mirai together in the KnK were fantastic. Ending may have not lived up to the last few episodes, but I saw it coming as soon as she told him that her blood contained her soul so it didn't bother me as much.
Stop replying to him. His lack of grammar skills and deductive reasoning should let you know he's either a troll or a retard.
Yeah, I guess especially episode 9 shocked the trolls. It was like a mind orgasm to see the flashbacks to the rooftop, remembering all the "but why did she stab him?" shitposting. Just amazing.
>time management issues
1. There was nothing wrong with the production level of the show, it looked like a movie all the way through.
2. 
3. That one quote that said 'We decided to change the storyboards' doesn't count, because that happened before the show even started being made.
What? The original threads were full of shitposting.
As soon as the episode started with the train actually leading into the OP I knew we were in for some serious business.
It wasn't Kyoanis best work, but I'd put it just one tier below things like Hyouka, Nichijou, the Haruhi movie or AS.
>KnK movie in Christmas 2014
>KnK season 2 in Spring 2015
You can trust me, my dad works at Japan
That only lasted a little while. People really liked episode 4 and it quieted down the shitposters for a while because that was the point where it became obvious they were talking out their asses and not watching the show. The threads were quiet in the middle and during the last third of the show they were fantastic.
I always remember at least one person shitting it up with "hurr durr you kyoanus lickers still like this crap?"
>desu ex machina crap
>there's plenty of hints that what happened is possible
They tried, but after people realized they were full of shit with "Durr she hugged him to save him that's such an asspull power of love bullshit!" people learned to start ignoring them.
I remember plenty of discussion surrounding all the things the show did so right and speculation.
The only real disappointment I had with Fujima and Izumi being "grey". Fujima should have been the hero and Izumi more of a villain. They kept them both ambiguous for a great amount of time, and I hoped Fujima to be some sort of bodyguard for Akkey, being sent by his mom. I really liked this guy, would've loved to see him save the day.
But then again, there's still room for that. Later.
What am I supposed to be looking at here?
Hey romcoms can be tough if you are a 12 years old.
Well, it's a KyoAni show. I don't really get why KA is so popular with trolls, the last days there were at least one thread a day along the lines of "It's over, KyoAni is finished". I guess the string of heavy successes at the start of their career created some sort of myth.
They are a popular studio, and you can shitpost about moe and fujo shows if you target them.
>The only real disappointment I had with Fujima and Izumi being "grey".
That was the biggest issue with the show. Felt like they were building up something bigger, but dropped it off. The story was focused on Akkey and Mirai though, and holy shit that went right. Their relationship progressed at a good rate spawned by some real common issue they had, she was conflicted about her orders, the scenes in the dream worlds like the almost kiss and her with the zombie, her fighting a massive moster on her own while Akkey reads the text message she sent him, and that scene with them closing their eyes and hold hands were all executed absolutely perfectly.
The show did more than enough right for me to enjoy it. I'm really not sure why peopel are so adamant about manufactoring reasons to hate it.
I used to think people only had trouble following things like Hyouka, Lain or Utena. When I realized most people here can't follow a seasonal romcom without getting confused and angry I got very sad. I also learned that it's probably for the best that I ignore people who can't form a coherent sentence and call a show shit without being able to explain what it did wrong, as they probably missed half the show.
Hell, I've seen people say things like "Oh, well I was watching at 1.5x speed with a non-full screen so I missed that." or even "I had it muted and was watching Frasier so I missed that." after I take the time to explain what they missed.
>Still don't know how many they sold at their store
>On an IP they own (making it more profitable)
>"Kyoani is ruined!"
It's just so fucking stupid.
Never watched Hyouka but it's really as hard to follow as Lain or Utena? I thought it was mostly a SoL
It sold 7k BDs on average?
That's pretty good. Why were people saying it was a failure?
Maybe it would actually work as an action/drama movie instead of 12 episodes stretch.
Who knows, who cares.
There is some subtle character development, I guess that if you are smart/pay attention you could have been able to solve mysteries.
They weren't even talking about KnK, though - they were addressing the preorder ranks, using Chuu2Ren as a benchmark. And since there were some shows that aired the prior day, thus ranking above Chuu2Ren (despite it having twice or more the points of the other shows), it was the usual. "Wow, Sakura Trick outselling KyoAni, how could that happen". It's unclear if they just don't know how the ranks work or if they are trolling. Business as usual.
A MAD that looks like a real trailer
It's somewhat above 6.5k last I heard, plus an unknown number sold through the KyoAni store. So yeah, 7k seems to be a sure bet. Following volumes are gonna drop, as usual, so embrace for the incoming trolling. Usual drops are around 25%, IS2 dropped almost 50%, IIRC. I just wish we had the figures for the shop, or how much they make with the merchandise. Seemed to go pretty well, KnK was among the first sold out at CTFK 2013. So I don't think they have to worry.
read again because you didn't understand it
There's enough at the surface level to think it's very basic, but there's tons and tons of subtle character development and characterization, visual metaphors and symbolism and scene composition that snuck by a lot of people. The fact that people think the ending was bad or the show was boring blows me away because they couldn't follow it on the most basic of levels. I've honestly never been more engaged when watching something as I was during Hyouka.
Do you know how the last 4 episodes of KnK were just really well put together (outside of the very end and the Fujima stuff) and the scenes used cinematography, facial expressions and movement, music and visuals to convey emotions and story movement better than words can? All of Hyouka is like that. It's one of the few shows that actually make use of all of the strengths anime as a medium has in how it can present and tell a story instead of just leaving blanks a book would have narrated or doing a hamfisted information dump or poorly placed exposition scene.
>Why were people saying it was a failure?
The same reason they shitpost about the show.
A combination of anger, boredom, retardation and sadness.
>Able to solve all the mysteries as soon as there's enough evidence as they aren't super complicated or the focus
>Keep getting confused and drawing incomplete conclusions during the movie arc despite having all the facts
>That was the point
That entire arc is vastly under rated.
Twice? There was the original animation (which I really liked) and then the continuation (with less charming animation).
Also, "Next water season" is going to fund whatever they feel like making, so I'm ready for more glasses and delicious old ladies.
Except, it is a failure.
KnK Volume 1 was discounted and includes an event ticket.
Volume 2 is barely ranking.
Volume 2 sales will show how KnK is actually doing.