What, in your opinion, was the worst anime you've experienced?
I'm not talking about moe-shit or stupid plots, but an anime with almost no redeemable qualities to you.
Saw recently a Hidan no Aria thread so, yeah, I'll go for that one.
Master of Martial Hearts, but Kill la Kill deserves an honorable mention
date a whore
Or some ching chong cartoon, if you could even call that anime.
Really? I dont care much for klk, but its at least a bit funny and the style is interesting.
>No redeemable qualities
But watching it with /a/ was the hardest I've ever laughed
Lain or Strawberry Panic!, I have been watching both for 2 years and I still can't complete them
Boku wa Tomodachi ga Sukanai
Depends. Shows that are so fucking boring I can't stand them get dropped, but there are some that just enrage me without boring me.
Gantz is probably the worst offender I can remember. It was the second anime I'd ever watched and I've never stopped feeling like it was a gigantic piece of shit.
The threads were so addicting.
now watch it again alone and tell me how it feels
The pace in those shows are horrible, I forced myself to watch them
11 Fucking eyes
God I regret it all....
Highschool of the Dead.
Vividred Operation, Not even the NEET girl with the juicy chest could save it thats how fucking bad it was.
Shukufuku no Campanella, garbage
The ED was great
I had to think about it, but probably oreimo.
It was pretty, but the concept, plot, and characters were all terrible/ boring.
fate stay shit
I second this
From what I can remember:
When they cry
Mostly entry level shit I watched when I didn't really know what to watch, nor had a means to watch a lot of shows, but shit they were.
In regards to shows with poor pacing:
I love the S&W LN series, but the anime was so slow and the art style was nothing like the magical, fantasy style of the LN or even the manga. Haibane was a fucking nightmare to get through. It was pleasant, but boring as all fuck and by the end of show I didn't care enough to give any thought to the significance of the show or its ending.
Infinite Stratos. I dare not even touch S2.
The entire show is a repeating 4 panel joke comic
All the jokes are stale, immature, and predictable
Can you imagine a show that's nothing but jokes and none of them are funny?
/a/ seems to love it but /a/ also has the humor of a 12 year old so I'm not surprised
Watch more anime
My choice would have to be 11eyes too actually. I kind of want to say something controversial and shit like Madoka or Hyouka but when it comes down to it 11eyes really is a lot worse.
Shikabane Hime isn't great either
Kokoro Connect. Unless doujinshi counts as a redeemable quality.
The single best episode out of it all was Hell's Kitchen: Cecilia Learns to Cook.
Seriously. The rest of it was 200% harem antics and "Oh yeah, there's a plot to this isn't there? Better throw that in too.".
I am serious.
Milky Holmes. I hate everything about it
Dragon Crisis! is without a doubt the single worst anime I have ever watched. The first 10 episodes were character introductions in a 13 episode series.
I suffered through 100 episodes thinking that, as such a cultural icon, it just had to come together at some point. It didn't. It's a show for 8 year olds.
Tower of Druaga. Fuck that shit.
There's no reason to watch this. Chances are you've seen a harem setup that wasn't executed like shit, so why bother with this? It's the same refurbished beta male protagonist, generic cast of girls, and the usual poorly written scenes.
Probably that Onii-chan Dakedo show. Tried to pick it up when it was airing expecting it to be trashy shit but fun in a trashy shit kind of way, but it somehow managed to make the subject matter so incredibly tedious that I could barely make it through even one episode. Never bothered to go any further.
>When they cry
>The entire show is a repeating 4 panel joke comic
That's exactely the source material though.
>ITT people list decent mildly flawed shows
What the fuck, if some of this shit is seriously the worst show you ever watched then you need to watch more anime. Just because you think a show is overrated doesn't make it the worst.
Somehow I didn't like the fact how they said in each preview "the next episode will cover pages XX - YY of the manga", it just made the anime feel like an advertisement for it.
That's exactly what anime is supposed to do, anon.
Watamote sucks if you compare it to these shows.
>Futari wa Milky Holmes. I hate everything about it
There. Fixed it for you
>it just made the anime feel like an advertisement for it.
What is every adaptation ever?
Yeah but why be so blatant about it? Can't they at least pretend they're trying to make something worth watching on its own, rather than as a companion to a manga?
Something I really wish I never experienced.
Yeah, the show is pretty poor. What does using an image from the manga have to do with it
How can I explain this fucking anime without killing myself.
Imagine someone wanted to make a satire of romcom but actually forgot to make it a satire and all you have left is an endless amount of cliches that were purposefully put there for no fucking reason and vanish literally in a few episode and then have one of the most dense, braindead, boring, hormone less MC that exist in anime.
The amount of suffering and bullshit in this just kills any redeemable quality from the comedy.
The worst is that it's actually pretty good at the beginning with both the guy and the girl having good chemistry and the girl realizing that she does have a thing for the guy.
But then the guy goes all dense for 6 episode and then when the girl is all down, crying and broken at how stupid the guy is, he goes all ''I don't know if I can be in a relationship''. AND FOR NO FUCKING GOOD REASON EITHER.
Like holy shit man was this bad.
KlK just goes everywhere and then nowhere which is really bad since they have this whole background mythos and shit. And the plot really is everywhere with Ryoko going everywhere about finding her dad's killer, then beating up the cast, then fighting nui then going to osaka. The anime is a complete mess as far as I'm concerned.
>When they cry
Nigger, you best be joking or I'll have to bitch slap you.
At least read the VN but don't say shit about Higurashi.
And call it by it's real name you fucking pleb.
I thought it was pretty fucking ridiculous that they both knew they liked each other but just spent 3 years in-universe and a shitload of episodes just farting around accomplishing jack shit to do with it.
The Nyaruani shorts were the best thing out of that franchise. The actual anime was a disaster.
The official name is Higurashi When They Cry
Well, I dont usually save pics of things I didn't like. Whatever, my mistake.
Umineko > Higurashi
I was told by someone that it was the best romance anime after Toradora. You can imagine my rage and disappointment.
The fact that the guy was forced into a relationship with the girl he somewhat liked pissed me to no end.
Or the fact that he had a fucking model living next door who was his childhood friend who always had a thing for him. (lel cliche)
Or the fact that the girl was rejected three fucking times for no damn reason.
Or the fact that he fucking fell asleep on her first kiss and didn't remember it. Seriously, fuck this damn anime. Nothing has made me rage more than this piece of shit with nothing fucking happening.
And then for it all to end with the guys just to happen to notice that he likes her and they all lived happily ever after.
What a bunch of bull fucking shit.
And the source material sucks, what's your point?
Wanted someone to kill me by episode 5 so I wouldn't have to watch the rest.
Higurashi > nice OP and ED fanmade product.
Umineko = Higurashi
With Higurashi having a better plot but Umineko having better writing.
The anime sucked, I'll admit haven't played the VN, but the anime itself was poor in my opinion.
I have the same problem with Higurashi as I did with Clannad, the tone and art style. The character design of both shows was meant to create a juxtaposition between the situations presented in the show, but both fell flat for me.
The quality aside, the scenes with the extreme gore or violence (Particularly the scene with the finger nail removal) just came off as "shocking because you know that shits painful". Despite the shows attempts to flesh out the world and characters, I feel the anime was restricted in lough of being a VN adaption and everything was just so shaky and "shit".
I'd like to know why you think its good that you need to over react to a negative opinion? I'm assuming I've missed something.
It's cool anon.
Last one that still pisses me off is H2O Footprints in the Sand. Wants to be a romantic-drama but ends up as a piece of shit becasue the writers had no idea how people act in real life.
I'm sorry, I don't speak moon. ;_;
Well, my love for Higurashi could be compared to an eternal volcano, but I think the anime version is really bad. Characters became blend and story became shit.
I agree with the Higurashi anime being better than Umineko, for obvious reasons. Didn't get the chance to get into the Higurashi VN yet, but Umineko was amazing.
Well, half the themes of the VN aren't fully conceived in the anime.
The VN practically has the opposite message than the anime which is more ''talk to your friends, discuss what needs to be done, violence isn't the answer, it's just the easiest and quickest answer'' whereas the anime goes all ''lol killers lolis''.
The thing with the anime is that it really was good until you read the VN and realize how much of it is missing in comparison.
The atmosphere in the anime was quite good, the twist were pretty good and you didn't fully know what the fuck was going on which worked almost as well during the first couple of episodes (until you see young version of Rika) and then it goes too offtrack afterwards.
Missing the entire thing with Shmion and Rena compared to the VN.
Kai's beginning was also not in the VN but did well to bring the viewer inside and show Rika's struggle but not as hard as in the VN.
There's really a lot the anime did right but equally bad.
Not to mention the Main Theme is one of the most creepy in anime and the OP and ED are some of the best. Chosen by Ryukishi himself no less, as well as all the VA.
Higurashi really and desperately needs a remake already.
Umineko is damn good but if you're going into Higurashi, be prepared because the first 4 arcs barely has any music, because it's the guys first work and he really started from scratch, but once you get into part 5, it goes completely into Umineko music tier level and goes into writing that goes above Umineko level and never stops until the end and becomes a blast.
Both VNs are good and masterpieces for different reasons, even if other idiots will disagree.
Zero no tsukaima
>Well, half the themes of the VN aren't fully conceived in the anime.
Welcome to VNs adaptations.
Koi to senkyou to chocolate. 15 minutes of the first episode made me puke bits of my brain out of my nose. Nauseating.
>The thing with the anime is that it really was good until you read the VN and realize how much of it is missing in comparison.
So, every VN-to-anime adaption ever?
Cant wait for grisaia to see how much they ruin it.
Well Higurashi was still decently adapted, compared to a lot of VN adaptations at least, just not fully compared to how great the VN was.
On it's own, I'd say it's a nice anime that's a mixed bag that falls short from the VN.
Toradora was bad
They been preparing and discussing it for about two to three years or so iirc.
If they only adapt the Common Route, it'll be fine.
All the routes are shit so it doesn't matter.
I'm expecting Majikoi levels of shit so I won't be disappointed this time.
You are shit.
We Without Wings.
I tried multiple times to finish it and just gave up. It is just so horrible.
2random4me unfunny shit
It's still considered the go-to anime for romance.
I do agree that it's shit.
Still better than Lovely Complex.
I swear, no anime even comes close to how bad Lovely Complex is.
Watch as characters do nothing for 26 episode, full of cliche, shit and nothing happening as you see the MC be more of an indecisive dick about being a relationship for no goddamn reason!
Anime is so bad but I cant stop watching, I already watched all the good/decent ones.
No you didn't.
>It's still considered the go-to anime for romance.
Honestly, with WA2, the best VN ever, being adapted, I'd say that has become the new standard.
Anyone who is posting something that is widely liked simply is either trying to start a flame war, trying to be edgy, or hasn't seen enough anime. If you have seen enough, you know that at least those series are even slightly entertaining. You watch ones like Ragnarok Online and you will just be wanting to kill yourself.
Quit trying to fit in plebs.
Is that LC anime popular or considered good by some people?
And toradora being considered the best romance anime out there really says a lot about the quality of writing of anime.
>And toradora being considered the best romance anime out there really says a lot about the quality of writing of anime.
It just doesn't have much competition since nearly everything else is a harem. Toradora is honestly not that great and has some stupid 3DPD problems. If you want true romance, I'd recommend WA2. Shit brought me to tears man.
VNs do romance better
Anime does action better
No shit, because VNs are nothing but plot and character development.
Amane gets hijacked with super ultra miss extraordinaire who can read book in her brain with kids doing nothing, and sex.
Michuru is too short and is likely the only mildly decent route with having KEY magic for split personality bullshit crap that's so retarded it gets retconned.
Makina is Jason Bourne with a nice bad end and boring everywhere. Cute but nothing happening much in her route.
Sachi being boring or shit happening with the ending with the truck being comedy gold.
Yumiko being completely boring and a dumbed down version of Makina's route with sex and a bad route that is so happy it's hilarious.
No man, you a shit.
Griasia a goddamn shit outside
That's the point.
Romance specific anime really isn't that good or well written.
I went around to check on different websites and it has very high ratings all around.
There was another romance anime I watched which was supposedly good about a too perfect smart guy and a dumb as fuck girl that was decently sweet but still boring and terribly written. The only interesting aspect being that they get married and show what happen afterwards but nothing actually happens nor does it explore what happens once you do get married and the gag of ''lel everyone loves my husband but I love him too!!'' really gets annoying.
In terms of good VN being adapted and good romance, I agree.
I don't particularly like WA2 that much but it is better than Toradora and better written. Truly a one in a million anime.
I don't remember any of this.
No you a shit.
When you already have the VN, why bother with the anime.
The anime is well made so it's really irrelevant.
After reading their mangas, it's safe to say I think Rosario+Vamipre or Kampfer were some pretty bad anime.
We're awaiting a translation that will never come.
You just have shit taste. I'm sorry, but it's chronic.
>ITT: People posting popular anime they didn't like to incite rage
That aside, I honestly can't even answer that. Even shit I really really hated like Sword Art Online at LEAST gave me interesting things to talk about in how not to approach story telling.
I think the best candidate for wasting my time would have to be Hyouka. It was an exercise in "how boring and mundane can we make a mystery before driving away the audience?" None of the plotlines ever resulted in any decent payoff, and the biggest "plottwist" was a girl was using him to make up an ending to a movie that was actually better than the original movie.
I think the worst part was because the mysteries were so mundane, half of them had easier solutions than the actual plot had. Like the episode with the festival being locked in the shed? If one of them had hidden, and then had the other bang on the door for help, they could have just had the other one come back later and open the door.
See? The most boring anime, and even then, I still have things to say about it. In the end though, Just like 90% of the other anime I've seen lately, I was only really watching it to see if the two main characters would shut up and fuck already.
Jigoku Youchien. Who the fuck greenlighted this shit? You think Lovely Complex is bad? Or MoMH? At least they evoked some emotion out of you. This was a complete waste of time, I couldn't even hate it so much as feel pity for it. And the kicker: It's a fucking short anime.
Probably these four were the worst thing that happened to my life.
Feel free to tell me i've shit taste
Usually I can find some redeeming quality in something but I stumbled upon it in some torrents. I watched it and my god is it awful in every way. I just kept watching it all the way through thinking at some point something has to be good, there must be something but it truly is an abyss of shit. People talk about IS as a cliche mess that plays every harem trope straight but it does not even compare.
>actually doing something other than being a showoff from the author with the entire thing not having any relevance
>b-b-but muh sequel!
>key magic bad
Never said that but it was pushing the suspense of disbelief
>Jason bourne being bad
No, it was a bad version of Jason Bourne that ended too quickly. with Yuuji being edgy with his arm that could have been some interesting depth but didn't really go anywhere.
Yes because blowing up the school makes a girl waifu material. She's fine, hell, all the characters are chill, but the route isn't that interesting.
People overrate Grisasia a lot.
You lucky sheltered fool.
Hades Project Zeorymer
The only good parts was when Zeorymer itself was fucking shit up, but even that couldn't make up for HOW BAD the rest of it was
The first series of Clannad and Toradora.
People will think I'm baiting with Toradora but I didn't enjoy it one bit.
Futari wa Milky Holmes
I can't even fathom how such abomination could be made in the first place. People literally killed themselves multiple times because of this shit.
>The first series of Clannad and Toradora
I have no idea what you're saying.
Attack on Titan
It's the Game of Thrones of anime, it has shit characters that are only liked because "MUH TRAGIC DEATHS". It also took way too long for anything at all to happen because the writer gets off on cock-blocking the viewer from seeing a happy ending.
u kno wot i mean
I believe he's talking about the first season of Clannad.
Dont forget bad animation
Kazuki is simultaneously the most interesting and funny character in the game.
>Never said that but it was pushing the suspense of disbelief
You mean super soldier Yuuji raiding a CEO's headquarters or chasing down a car in a bike in a scene ripped straight out of Fast and Furious 3 didn't?
>but the route isn't that interesting.
I actually agree.
>People overrate Grisasia a lot.
There will always be people who overrate their favourite VN. Muvshits and Hoshimemoshits do the exact same thing.
Kotoura-san. Unlike most anime being called out here, it actually is terrible in every sense of the word. Awful art, terrible writing, shit music, unremarkable scenery, C- VA work.
I can agree with this.
I dropped it at the trial.
Shit went so over the top that I couldn't take it seriously.
>you might be a titan, we have to kill you!
>d-dude, you're overreaction
>SHUT UP, YOU'RE A TITAN TOO, SOMEONE KILL HER
And then proceed to beat the fuck out of Eren to win a trial.
Just no. Simply no.
>all these people posting Clannad
Are you fuckers serious? If that's one of the worst you've experienced, you're very lucky or just havent seen shit.
To be honest, this guy was actually right. Not about Eren, but ..
I liked Kotora-san for the first few episodes, but whatever appeal it had just totally died after, like, three episodes when that one bitch sent dudes to beat up main guy and she gets away with it.
Clannad S1 kinda sucked. At least manga version is ok.
>Kazuki is simultaneously the most interesting and funny character in the game.
Irrelevant. She did jack shit other than be interesting and funny.
The route and flashback was meant for Amane and you can see the author loved her more than the story itself which is a huge misfire thing to do when you're an author.
I don't like her because of what she represent and what she did, not how fucking awesome or funny she is, it just makes her irrelevant.
Kotoura-san was one of those anime that could have been a AOTY candidate but didn't by having the anime be ''too anime-ish'' rather than follow the 4koma. The OP and ED are actually pretty good but by god did they misfire the entire thing by toning down the entire thing.
Shit like having kids get drunk and implied sex.
Having the mother come back, steal money then tell Kotoura she never loved her and only used her to get money.
Having Kotoura almost get killed by the serial killer rather than just being chased.
Having the serial killer ACTUALLY be a goddamn serial killer rather than a serial assault-sit (seriously what the fuck?)
It really could have been a lot more and it went from being the most popular anime last winter to being completely ignored near the end. Quite sad.
The art was unique, the music okay, the OP and ED catchy and sad and the VA being okay. Don't know what you're complaining about there.
After Story was good. S1 wasn't.
.hack// Legend of the Twilight
Disagree. I thought it was at least average. But even if it did "kinda sucked," it can't possibly be someone's worst experience with anime who has seen more than 100 series.
The kiss made me so fucking mad, I thought "FINALLY some development" but nope, they had to reset it right back after with some horribly contrived bullshit.
How do you justify considering FLCL among the worst anime ever created? I mean I can understand perfectly not liking it, but that seems to be taking it a bit far.
Well i watch a lot of anime shit ones and good ones but the one that infuriated me the most was code geass as everyone told me it is great. The first episode was so retarded i couldn't finish it
It gets worse
I don't even remember what it is about.
>not going for the 3 episode rule, no matter how bad
R1 is a blast except for some parts.
R2 is completely retarded and boring except for it's ending. R2 is a complete boring version of R1 but without the tactics and goes into a ''one mecha kills all'' rather than use smarts or plans.
Watch more anime you pleb.
I wouldn't go so far as to say that it's the worst anime I've seen, but it was by far the worst EXPERIENCE I've had watching an anime. Everything about it bothered me. I did not enjoy a single episode. The lolsorandum factor just didn't click with me. I hated every second of those six episodes.
I can't believe I finished both of theses.
Judging by the way you type, you belong here
I thought we stopped doing that.
You get out.
You know, it wouldn't have been so bad if it actually ended with everyone dying, but no. Couldn't even give us that.
I'm glad we agree Anon.
Really? That anime was fucking hilarious. First episode starts out with MC getting gang raped by high school girls, then he jumps out a window on the top floor, only to fall into a variety of death traps set by his classmates that almost killed him. He pretty much just shrugs it off. Then, some hot chick falls pussy-first onto his face.
What the hell would give you that impression? If someone doesn't belong here, I will tell them.
Muh grammar on the internet
You dont get to decide that and they wont leave anyways.
It's not a horrible experience if you just laugh at it. It's fucking hilarious.
It wouldn't be that bad if It wasn't by the fact that at that moment I just started watching anime.
What, stopped hazing them? Why make them feel at home?
It has to be this. Hidan no Aria manages to be so thoroughly shit on every level that it's kind of an achievement in its own right. Not only are the story and characters so irredeemably awful that they literally gave the author cancer, but even the production of the anime is filled with QUALITY, CG segways, and inexplicable boring grey backdrops in every scene. It's so obvious that nobody cared at all about any aspect of this terrible show.
As far as my least favorite show experience, I think it'd have to be Muv Luv Alternative: Total Eclipse for retroactively tarnishing my memory of Muv Luv Alternative, which I loved. Now I can't go back to the series without realizing how much of a retard the author is and how the world of Muv Luv is way dumber than I initially thought.
ITT: People venting and just naming anime they don't like
A good 80% of the anime named here are somewhat below average but most definitely not the worst anime ever made.
Shinkyoku Soukai Polyphonica however is an example of an anime that is most definitely utter shit.
>The art was unique
What the hell
You need to list something that even production companies abandoned such as Togainu, Musashi, etc.
It was fine. Not bad but still somewhat unique and not THAT terrible.
Lovely Complex beats it.
Being shit isn't the same as being completely boring on all levels.
Rocket Girls - cute little girls doing cute things in space, but I'd expected Planetes 2.0, so it was more than disappointing.
Clannad S1 was just generic haremshit.
It wouldn't be so bad if I didn't come from the VN: seeing them butcher the routes just so they can insert Nagisa everywhere was insulting. Kyou/Tomoyo suffered the most for it and their arcs are the primary reason why I consider S1 Clannad on par with DEEN's F/SN.
Nothing compared to >>101859943.
Miyakawa-ke no Kuufuku
Sounds like I have something new to watch.
Something to do with Leaves It's like a rip off of FLCL but just bad.
Also, Another was really bad.
But the worst was probably Deadman Wonderland.
Tyrion is fucking great, you piece of shit.
K-ON!, Naruto, and SAO.
Dead Leaves was great for mindless animation porn and explosions though. It was pretty much Imaishi indulging in his favourite element.
All Purpose Cultural Cat Girl Nuku Nuku DASH
Wolfs Rain with the recaps included
Some of the Slayers movies
>CTRL + F
>No Gundam SEED Destiny
None of you have truly experienced hell.
Ahh shit I forgot SEED
Gundam SEED Destiny
All these adaptions of smewhat popular shonen/seinen manga that get pumped out every season. Usually only one season, no passion, bland music, boring cast, etc. Just completely forgettable.
The worst of that in recent times was probably Arata Kangatari.
I'm never going near SEED.
The ED was great though.
Kampfer would be on the list, but it was such a horrible trainwreck that I actually enjoyed seeing how stupid it would get.
Chuu Bra is the most irredeemable of all time.
Guilty Crown is just so highly derivative and inferior to what it copies that it pains me to watch it.
Noragami is like a mish-mash of other bad shows that pretends to be unique for the first two episodes but then becomes another typical shounen. Kind of reminds me of Bleach.
SEED was alright.
SEED Destiny was like, Infinite Stratos 2 if it was 52 fucking episodes long.
I wish GC was the worst anime I ever saw.
you're a faggot
SEED was popular enough to get this kind of clone in 2014.
Because the only Gundam series i have ever tried are the original, Wing and A. And those were enough for me to know I don't want to struggle through 20+ other series of Gundam. Especially just to see a series even Gundam fans hate.
Gundam Seed has been one of the most popular anime in Japan consistently for the last 10 years. That doesn't make it good.
For example, Nadesico, Love Hina, Mahoromatic, Galaxy Angel, Naruto and One Piece were also at the same level of popularity in magazines like newtype and animage in Japan.
Boku Wa Tomodachi
I meant I'm not going near SEED and SEED destiny.
Basically never going near anything with SEED in its name.
Experienced? Oreimo. Shit show. Shit fanbase. Was expecting a good explination as to why worst girl was tsun and got the most self-centered backstory in all of anime.
There seriously no redeeming qualities to this show.
>Basically never going near anything with SEED in its name.
>There seriously no redeeming qualities to this show.
How about the doujins it spawned?
>great voice acting with good cast
in no way the worst anime ever
I hate seeing Kirino's round bitch face. 200 day war was the only good one, so there's that at least.
SEED wasn't crap, it was a semi-remake of the original gundam which shifted from mediocre to decent at times.
Destiny was truly the one that is absolute garbage, and that's not only because of the story.
inb4 shitheads tell you to read the LN and insulting your intelligence for not liking a total bitch.
Your're favorite animes
The Galaxy Railways was trite, implausible, BS.
I frankly have to agree. I've never been much of a LN fag and I'm pretty good at dodging spoilers so seeing Kuroneko win at the end of S1 was pretty fucking great. The rest of it? Shit. Then S2 happened and it just got worse and worse.
'Oh but she's a young teenage girl she's not supposed to have complex problems!' you plea. Yes but if I wanted to watch some bullshit teenage drama I'd rather go watch some crap on MTV. Litterally the worst.
Angel Beats easily
>great voice acting
When it's Japanese, I don't really care. I mean I'll notice bad voice acting like in TWGOK, but okay and up is all the same outside of shows/movies with good scripts.
Same face everywhere. One girl is literally a color swap of another and most of their personalities are skewed, generic, or just plain uncute.
Average, nothing special.
I did read it too, but they can't believe someone who disagrees with them.
oreimo, hands down.
that show made me fucking mad, stupid plot, shitty character developments and for the love of god, whorish ending.
Shit, I have to go listen to the OP again. Thanks for reminding me, Anon.
seitokai yakuindomo. Feels like it was written by 13 year olds, it's like I'm watching something made by to big bang theory creators.
Worst thing is even when Zeorymer is fucking shit up it only make poses.
Anyway, not long ago I donwloaded Musashi Gundoh out of curiosity. I mean, just how bad it could be? Never got past the third chapter. Holy shit, I could watch a documentary about how they made that fucking abortioin of a show.
>blonde girl is friends with the MC
>she later tries to murder him and escapes
>they meet again, MC gladly accepts to work for her
>she later tries to murder him again
>at the end they end up being friends
I don't understand, who the fuck greenlights this kind of shit?
>watch show about teenage drama
>complain you're getting teenage drama
They're making 5-10 new shows a year. They greenlight anything as long as they think it has a chance of capturing a fetish fanbase.
>average, nothing special
I take it you don't watch much seasonal anime?
It isn't anything special. It's average. Something like TTGL has above-average animation, even though episode 4 was fucking horrifying.
The worst anime that I hated but finished it anyways has to be High School of the Dead.
The hell is that? Waffle Ass 2?
Aria sold more than 5000 copies on average, so it should be a profitable show for TBS.
You clearly haven't seen much anime have you?
They got the Toradora fanbase.
>stupid 3DPD problems
Rie Kugimiya fanbase, more likely. Because Golden Time(same author) got none, on the other hand.
High School of the Dead is pretty crap though.
Maybe not worst anime ever made material, but the writing would make SAO looks like War and Peace.
I don't save gifs strictly for animation but you should check the archive for animation threads and/or watch a ghilbi movie or something because your standards are super low.
>Some of the Slayers movies
I was agreeing with you until I read this... Now I just think you're a troll or have only seen 10 things total.
Man I wish I lived in a world where your average seasonal harem romcom would have animation this fluid and dynamic.
Yeah, I suppose Ghibli movies are now the standard we use to see what's average. I guess you too don't watch much seasonal anime?
>Yeah, I suppose Ghibli movies are now the standard we use to see what's average
No, that's what I define as mention worthy animation. Good and okay animation is what all animation studios should achieve as *animation* studios.
Oreimo S1 was okay-ish, S2 was completely shit and the tripfag and kirinofag just wanted to rub it in until the last second.
...you do know that animation isn't the samke across the board. And they can put more funding and effort into certain scenes (like the one you just posted) than others, right? You may just be noticing the specific scenes that got the higher focus and budget.
A show like Ika Musume got the same treatment. There was certain scenes where the animation quality went crazy and people made GIFs of all those scenes. But then there's plenty of 'normal' scenes where the animation drops off horribly.
>Not only are the story and characters so irredeemably awful that they literally gave the author cancer
You are a terrible person.
Also, Green Green.
At least that's the only one I can remember that wasn't bad enough to be purged from my memory.
>Good and okay animation is what all animation studios should achieve as *animation* studios.
While that does make sense, the reality is a different one. Your average seasonal anime has stiff animation, lots of stills, lots of shots with just the faces of characters talking with little to no facial expressions, etc.
Really? I mean I loved Slayers and Slayers NEXT, but a couple of those movies were just so bad. They were a mix though, some were great and others, dear god.
>until the last second.
The second will never end. Honestly Kirinofags brag like they're the rich guy at their high school reunion.
It's a zombie movie but with tits.
The problem is that people expected more and they're all idiots.
>why can't this anime that seems pretty chill and gives hints of some small intelligence by showing society go into full anarchy just ditch the porn already????
Meh, HSotD wasn't as bad as people claim it to be.
The only thing bad out of it was the girl peeing on the guys back, that went too far.
There's a reason why they keep making ''best imouto'' thread all the goddamn time.
But between 2012-2013 until S2 finished airing, they were fucking obnoxious as fuck.
I just want them all to leave already.
>he fell for the bait
I'm almost disappointed, Anon-kun.
Saint Seiya Omega
most harem anime
Well, Ika Musume is another show with above average animation. I get the feeling some people really need to see more bad shit, the stuff /a/ doesn't about.
Texhnolyze one of the worst anime ever made? Which world did your brain grow up in?
The movies were hardly as bad as many of the true 'bad' anime being named here like 11 Eyes, Green Green, Gundam SEED and etc. And they hardly killed their entire series like something such as Saber Marionette J to X or Nuku Nuku DASH.
If anything, the movies kept Slayers going. And the Slayers Premium movie helped revive Slayers. While Slayers Revolution/R-Evo has set it back for years, if not killed it.
The thing is I don't really mind so long as it isn't near as bad as 3rd episode of NHK bad. It's nice to see exceptionally great animation in seasonal stuff but oreimo was not in there. It's not bad animation but nothing to write home about to me.
You really can tell who doesn't watch a lot of anime in this thread.
what do you like then?
>Well, Ika Musume is another show with above average animation.
...no it wasn't. Did you not even fucking get the point of my post?
I think you're confusing 'above average animation' with 'shows where I like the cute character designs'.
If you want to see a shows with 'above average animation', watch stuff like Haruhi, Clannad, Ghost in the Shell or Real Drive. You may not prefer the character designs, but they have 10x the budget of the shows you're naming and much more consistent (higher) animation.
>If anything, the movies kept Slayers going. And the Slayers Premium movie helped revive Slayers. While Slayers Revolution/R-Evo has set it back for years, if not killed it.
How can you react to the Slayers movies of all things when he mentioned Texhnolyze as one of the worst. I don't care if the retard is trolling, some opinions should be a crime.
Seeing as I can't possibly be wrong, you either don't appreciate or understand the little things that make animation good or you don't watch enough seasonal anime. It is something to write home about. Just compare it to the average painfully bland crap. Have you seen shit like Code:Breaker, Mushibugyo, Photo Kano, Arata Kangatari, Karneval, DAL, Phi brain and countless other examples?
This is the average, and Oreimo is miles above.
>react to me!
You're right, it shouldn't even count it as an anime, it was more of an animated camera panning simulator.
Yeah I guess, and I liked Premium a lot, but never actually got back into it for Rev/Ev because I heard of how bad they were. and I had forgotten J to X.
>average painfully bland crap.
You've gone to far.
I watched the first 10 minutes of Kiss x Sis and it was horrible
Maybe he hasn't seen Texhnolyze? And wow are you proving that you're a buttpained fanboy of that show.
Sorry but I only have three ratings.
Bad, Good, and Amazing and most of the time the shows I pick up are good.
I'm not trying to be a contrarian or just shit on something popular but I seriously don't see what people saw in the show. It just seemed so generic and predictable and yet everyone here seems to hype it as solidly above average.
His and Her Circumstances (before the budget got pulled) still remains the best high school romance I've seen by far.
>If you want to see a shows with 'above average animation', watch stuff like Haruhi, Clannad, Ghost in the Shell or Real Drive
I don't remember the first season of Haruhi having exceptional animation, but I could be wrong seeing how it's been a long time. And I'd agree on the stuff you listed, but I think you give the average anime too much credit. Your average season has 30-40 shows and the animation for the majority of those is not as good as, say, Ika Musume or Oreimo.
Well if you don't actually watch average anime, why do you feel the need to comment on what is above average?
Kyoukai no Kanata
>animated camera panning simulator.
yes because the animation technique is clearly the most important thing when judging anime.
Sure thing, but even if I hated it so much I wanted to die I wouldn't resort to calling it the worst anime. That's just childish and stupid.
Because there's a clear difference between the chuu2 battle scenes and an episode of S1 Higurashi.
For 2006, when Haruhi first came out, it turned heads for its animation. Now it won't look quite as amazing, but it still is on the high end for its camera angles and design.
And we don't have to keep arguing about it. its mostly that he was just insisting that Oriemo was such a unique show with above average animation. When it really isn't. Tons of shows have large jumps in animation quality at key scenes. Even Naruto or Pokemon does it in certain episodes.
The art style alone made it worth watching.
Season 2 especially.
And neither the guy you're quoting nor the guy he was quoting said that. You're bitching at a guy for not calling out ANOTHER guy for his opinion.
Why don't you step up and be a man and bitch at the guy who said the show you like sucked? Instead of bitching at someone else for not doing the job for you.
The fact that not one original idea went into making it wouldn't bother me so much if it wasn't for the fact that every single thing that is wrong with anime was brought together to make it as well. It is 100% cancer.
The unique thing about Oreimo was that Hiroyuki Oda drew characters for both LN and anime. That was the best kind of adaption for character design wise.
There's a certain level of direction, that at a bare minimum needs to be in any work. Texhnolyze was way below that level, to the point where it felt like I was watching some shitty modern art piece. If it was trying to get at something, it did it wrong and was just so fucking trying to continue watching the whole way. I understand that some people think it's super DEEP and great tragedy or whatever, but if you aren't into that type of thing it is one of the worst things possible to be forced through.
>animated camera panning simulator.
>yes because the animation technique is clearly the most important thing when judging anime.
He's not wrong. While Texhnolyze was made by madhouse, a lot of shows made in that period had the same panning camera crap thanks to the style being popularized by GONZO and BeeTrain. Which they used that same emphasis of almost lifeless characters sitting in a room talking while a camera panned back and forth for 20 minutes in all their shows.
Texhnolyze may have had a little more variety, but it still suffered from the same style. I for one am glad that fad ran out for the most part. Thanks to GONZO dying. If only BeeTrain would fucking die...
>If only BeeTrain would fucking die...
I will deva die! I saving Anime!
I didn't say it was such a unique show, all I said was that is does have redeeming qualities, and above averge animations is one of them. I'm not talking about animation quality at key scenes, I'm talking about the generally dynamic style and willingness to actually animate stuff.
Especially with seasonal romcoms and dramas you get so many, many shows just being lazy because they can get away with it. If your show isn't carried by action, but by characters talking, you get some really boring and wooden animation. May that be due to time or money restraints or simple lack of skill, you get shit that can barely be called anime because nothing is properly animated.
So I still think I'm very much right in saying Oreimo is well animation to a degree above average.
Thanks for reminding me.
Tsubasa: Reservoir Chronicles
Fuck, every fucking BeeTrain show can go in this thread.
While I understand your viewpoint, the camera technique was not fitting into many of the anime from both GONZO and BT, however I feel that it worked perfectly in the desolate and dystopian world of Texhnolyze with minimal dialogue.
It's a bit wrong to hate the technique itself just because you enjoy more pace, just like it's wrong to hate movies because they are slow and show a still picture for 20 minutes where nothing in particular happens. It's just a matter of what kind of pace you're accustomed to.
I liked .Hack//SIGN at least, but I had to watch it somewhat out of order to get into it.
Also I'd stop short of putting Noir up there just because the last 6ish episodes almost redeemed it.
Sonic X, mainly because of this faggot.
I don't think Oreimo has bad animation. But I didn't see anything that would say its normal animation (outside of specific scenes they focused on) had exceptional animation. In this way, you can say it had 'average animation'. Not comparing it to other shows, just comparing it to what it COULD have been.
Now, when COMPARING it to other shows with exceptional animation, something like Kimi ni Todoke or Real Drive or whatnot, it also seems to not be quite as strong overall. I mean, even a low budget anime like Mitsudomoe had comparable animation overall.
FMP excluding Fumoffu
Anon... this is pretty important for the future of this conversation, did you just defend Michael Snow's Wavelength? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBOzOVLxbCE
The special thing about Oreimo was that the LN illustrator is also an animator and he actually participated in its adaptation.
While I will freely admit to hating the camera panning junk, I will also admit to liking it if it is used correctly. But you just admitted it is hardly used correctly.
Like I kind of pointed to in my previous post, Texhnolyze had more of a reason to use it than most of those other shows. But most of those Gonzo and BeeTrain shows don't. And especially in a show like Noir, which focuses on female BOUNTY HUNTERS, its entirely inexcusable to have the majority of the episodes set in dark hotel rooms or back alleys with the girls just standing around talking for 20 minutes and a slow camera pan. Then suddenly in the last 2 minutes of the episodes 'NOS EN EL LA CAN TA!' this epic chorus and they start killing people randomly. It becomes a horrible cliche.
I don't think it's fair to compare animation quality strictly to overall budget because it's very nontransparent and complex as to how money is distributed. The result counts, and big budgets can only do so much. A small budget show can look very good if it picks its battles.
Yes I know, you keep saying that. But that doesn't change the budget or focus on certain scenes. Other Manga/LN creators have worked on their series adaptations, like Rui Araizumi overlooking the designs for Slayers, Yuzo Takaza overlooking his series like Blue Seed or Nuku Nuku or CLAMP working on their various anime adaptations. But each of those still get large variations of quality and funding. So did Oreimo.
I don't know what I have to do to appreciate Utena. I just downloaded the entire series and it's almost unwatchable.
I want to smack the person who said I would like this.
>A small budget show can look very good if it picks its battles.
I know it can. That's why I specifically mentioned Mitsudomoe looking almost as good as Oreimo. Of course, that came at the expense of Mitsudomoe putting nearly all its budget into its animation and having no advertising.
Don't force yourself to like it. I've tried watching it twice and both times it just falls apart at the Black Rose arc.
And the movie is even worse.
They might be able to design characters for anime, but animation is a different skill set. You cannot really expect more if the illustrator himself animates the show.
Watch Penguindrum. It's better.
Well, then I guess we are in agreement?
Even though I like some things about Noir, I'd be the first to admit the terrible directing and misuse of camera, not to mention the horribly overuse of the Kajiura soundtrack. But like I said, I think it worked just fine in Texhnolyze and there were actually more variation to the camera there. The pace was slow and it felt as it you were just coldly observing the world from a distance, but I think it added to the atmosphere rather than taking anything away from it.
...the illustrator is still limited by time, budget and working with a crew. He didn't animate the entire show himself. Even Miyazaki working on one of his movies doesn't do the entire thing himself. He never has, going all the way back to Sherlock Hound and Heidi.
But I have.
I think Oda did his best for TV anime budget.
I would have been happier if I could forget this ever existed.
I think it was one of the .Hack animes.
Shit was terrible and moved way to slow.
Can't speak for the games though.
Fun fact, Yoshiyuki Sadamoto did the character designs for the games, and I think the show too.
Worst? Powerpuff Girls Z.
Took me three sittings to suffer through the first episode. It was just plain stupid and not funny.
Another fun fact is that when Sadamoto was a kid, his mother beat the shit out of him in front of some construction workers because he took a little bit of money from her purse to get one of those capsule toys.
I can think of something worse.
What the fuck is that? Did they really do the shitty 3d animation thing to my mother fucking POWERPUFF GIRLS?!
You're favourite anime.
I just died a little bit. I wish I could unread this post and go back to when I didn't know this existed. I really don't watch TV anymore and now I feel reassured that this is a good decision. Why, Cartoon Network? Why would you do that?
Well for one Kill La Kill isn't finished yet so its sort of unfair to compare it with a finished series.
At the moment KlK is starting to get more interesting and I think that the typical shonen first half was done on purpose for the upcoming last 7 epsiodes.
Why? We'll all have to find out and see if its good or notgood
I've seen some shit man, do yourself a favor, don't watch this even if you do know moon.
Another. It wasn't funny bad, it was just bad.
>Master of Martial hearts
The masterpiece went over your head I see.
It's being animated by the guys who did the recent Gorillaz music videos, so I wouldn't be terribly upset.
If your gif was supposed to convince me not to watch Ginguiser it ended up having the opposite effect.
Well, at least it's an actual cartoon.
Have they finally given up on that stupid live action shit?
I like the manga as its paced fairly well and has enough satisfying moments and material and at the moment isn't a cringe-worthy shonen like a lot of the early 2000s series.
Anime started well, but fucked up when they paced like the manga, in which I mean that it felt like a chapter a month only it was in a week.
Ill still try to get back on board for S2 if it comes out but SnK S1 was pretty mediocre.
Its precisely because people like us no longer watch TV anymore and are watching anime online that they're focusing so hard on 3D animation.
Also why Genndy Tartakovsky's Sym-Bionic Titan failed hardcore. Well, partially because it was 2D and partially because it was total crap (it tried to tie into DUBBED anime fads and culture).
Lain was extremely shit, and has 0 redeeming qualities
It's not worth it, it's just not worth it. The solid 30 seconds of explosions after every kill is entertaining at first, but that just can't make up for 28 episodes of terribleness. It's like everything bad about 70s mecha series in one show.
Ginguiser in SRW when?
>Attack on Titan
>It's the Game of Thrones of anime
Except Legend of Galactic Heroes is Game of Thrones: The Anime. Except it did all the political intrigue, backstabbing, dialogue and etc well, unlike Game of Thrones. And cut down the gratuitous sex and gore by a factor of 100.
capatcha: opera pclost
berserk: the first golden arc movie
I didn't read the manga yet so I was confused as fuck as well
I'm surprised yet happy I was able to read berserk after that piece of crap left a bad taste in my mouth
TTGL and NGE, i guess i just hate mechas
Goodness. This thread filled up faster than I thought it would