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So does everyone here hate Hiroyuki Imaishi now?

except for Cirno
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Ah-ha, Dead Leaves. I'm going with 'yes'.
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No, he is one of the guys moving (Japanese) animation as a medium forward instead of stalling where it is. Him and Masaaki Yuasa.
Dead Leaves was beautifully animated.
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Hell no, Imaishi is awesome.
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Who?
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>>10185223

I'm not sure if "beautiful" is the word I'd use, but I agree with the sentiment.
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>>10185227

cirno
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Cirno is a nigger, and every troll tripfag in /a/'s past.

Think about it.

Anime_expert disappeared. Tonberryking appeared. Tonberryking disappeared. Guriin appeared. Guriin disappeared and Cirno appears.
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>>10185237

mmmm so /a/ hates to Cirno???
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>>10185237
Tonberry was funny with his troll technique
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>>10185237
I see the pattern. They were all awesome trolls.
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>>10185223
Yuasa's pretty awesome too, I love the look of Kemonozume and Mind Game.

I'm not a retarded JohnKfag who thinks that every cartoon should look WACKY and STYLIZED, but I really wish more animu looked like this. These days manga art is either realistic or kawaii moeblob shit; there's virtually no room for cartoony stuff. And whenever something like this comes out /a/ whines about "Gainax AIDS" and "QUALITY" as if Gainax invented the "squash & stretch" technique.
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I am a completely different person from this "Cirno" and I think Imaishi is absolutely brilliant. He is one of the most important animators and directors working in animation. Him along with Masaaki Yuasa (>>10185223) are the driving force of creativity in this decade.

I wonder what that Cirno thinks. I am wondering because I am not him. This is how you know it's the truth.
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Fuck yeah Yuasa
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>>10185275
I don't know about you guys, but I believe every word this man says.
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>>10185261
Most of the Anon's who do complain watch the series frame for frame then come back showing the QUALITY(last time it was Gundam 00)

The moe blob shit gets on my fucking nerves, I'm pretty glad the next season has less of it though.
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>>10185287
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>>10185297
Moe blob is wonderful in small doses.
But when every fucking series in a year has it, oh god.
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and Do you sleep with him? don´t you?
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>>10185297
Instead of moe shit it has horrible bishie shit. Which isn't any better.

Also I tried watching a few high budget Disney films while examining every frame, I found TONS of distorted or weird looking frames which /a/ would normally consider QUALITY.
>>10185305
Nishi is GAR.
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>>10185318

/a/ can't deal with animation that has more than 3 frames per second.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E26FGlf4eXI
Second half = awesome shit
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>>10185337
It's actually not far off.

My eyes feel weird during the imaginary world bits in clannad. It's wonderful to look at, but it's so smooth it just feels wrong after watching all the quality of other shows.
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lol Cirno-kun
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>>10185367
Clannad is nicely animated but I just can't get over the awful designs.
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>>10185206

No more opinions, No!
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>>10185380
Let's change "Clannad" for "KyoAni productions" and change "Designs" to "Designs, direction, storyboarding, and visual characterization."

Now there's an opinion I can agree with!
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>>10185406
Wow, Cirno was present for KyoAni's storyboarding process.

God, KyoAni sucks.
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anime needs moar babies with guns
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>>10185318
To be fair, gundam 00 has it's fair share of manly characters.
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anime needs moar babies with guns
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>>10185406
"KyoAni productions is nicely animated?"
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anime needs moar babies with guns
>>10185422
Haven't seen Gundam 00, but the next season is filled with yaoi shit
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>>10185427
"Are"

>>10185414
Are you implying that you can't see the result of poor storyboarding? If that's not what you're implying, then I don't know how to interpret your post, and if that is what you're implying: Stop. Stop implying that.
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>>10185422
Yeah, Wild Bear. And that's it.

I love Gundam 00, and men, but its cast is made up almost entirely of pretty bishi boys.

Also, KyoAni isn't all bad, guys! Haruhi and FMP were okay, right?
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>>10185448
>I love men
k
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>>10185414

> Cirno was present for KyoAni's storyboarding process

Anyone who knows anything about the animation production process can see the effect good or bad storyboards have had on a show. Same as being able to see the effects of a good or bad director.

I actually think KyoAni's stuff is quite well directed and boarded, it's the retarded plots and character designs I can't deal with.
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>>10185454
>I think my opinion is worth more than that of people with different sexual tastes
k
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>>10185448
Garham, Patrick, Ali, Howard Mason.
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>>10185367
Imagine of all shows were like that. Would you like it?
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>>10185470
Ali became the typical Zechs bishi when he did away with his beard, man. And Graham and Billy are yaoibait. Patrick and Howard Mason are too minor.
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>>10185406 I don't like anything that gets more attention and/or outsells my favorite shows.
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>>10185475
I definitely would love it after I got used to it.
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Haruhi and Clannad are well animated because Kyoani hired an underage Japanese prostitute and made her dance around for hours so they can rotoscope her movements and use them for every single female character in both shows.

I should know, I work for KyoAni. Seriously.
>>10185481
I don't recall Clannad getting any prestigious awards like Mind Game
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>>10185443
>I don't know how to interpret your post

You need to loosen up. It was a joke.
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>>10185457
>it's the retarded plots and character designs I can't deal with.
VN adaptations,what do you expect?
they are shit by default
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>>10185496
I had no idea it was a joke, seeing as it wasn't particularly funny.
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I like Naruto.
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>>10185501
Well, then sarcasm, then. Didn't you read the second sentence?
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>>10185499
kimiaru's a hentai game adaptation and doesn't look nearly as bad as clannad.

the character designs are pretty generic, but at least no one looks like they have downs syndrome.
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>>10185510
He was sarcastically implying that Cirno must have witnessed Clannad's storyboard work, as if you can't tell the results of poor storyboarding judging by the final results
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>>10185511but at least no one looks like they have downs syndrome.

but the girl with pink-hair
she doesn´t seem be too smart
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also, moar dead leaves screens for the lulz
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>>10185560
>but at least no one looks like they have downs syndrome.
>LOOKS
I was talking about character designs fgt
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>>10185574

is the same the character design aren´t too good
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>>10185511
Kimiaru looks generic. Just as bad as Clannad, just with worse anmation.
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>>10185588
I never said they were well designed, just not completely hideous like Clannad
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Well, as far as the Clannad designs went, Kyou was fine because she was Kagami, Ryou also because she was Tsukasa. The moe worked for Kotomi because, yeah, downs, it also worked for Fuuko for the same reason. The real issue was really with Nagisa, and Tomoyo/Tomoya.

The eye spacing all around could have been fixed ever so slightly and it would have made a huge difference.
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>>10185623
Generic? Yes. But I never thought "WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH THEIR FACES JESUS CHRIST GET THESE DEFORMED RETARDS AWAY FROM ME" while watching it.
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>>10185644
Too bad Kimiaru is shit, far worse than Clannad.
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>>10185406
Stop implying it's the worst shit ever, it just makes you look like a biased faggot.
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>>10185658
I'm biased because I point out the multiple faults of an animation studio? Quit looking for implications where there are none to be found. I was not speaking relatively.

They're simply a low quality studio with high production values.
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>>10185665
I would disagree, but then I would be defending a harem anime which would be the most pathetic thing ever
>>10185658
Clannad IS terrible. The only decent part is the animation, which is obviously rotoscoped whenever it actually looks good.
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>>10185705
You aren't pointing multiple faults, what you are doing right now may work with ignorant retards but it's only name calling without anything to back you up.
Yes nothing Kyoani did is on the level of GL, Mindgame or even Kamichu for example but they are far from being the worst and I wouldn't consider them to be "low quality".
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>>10185705
If Clannad was everything KyoAni had ever done like people seem to think, you'd have more of a point
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>Yes nothing Kyoani did is on the level of GL
inb4 butthurt moefags calling you a shallow shonenfag who needs to gb2 gaia
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>>10185738
Their choice of source material would make them a low quality studio in my eyes.
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GL : gar :: Clannad : moe
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>>10185755
>My only reason for being here is to make inaccurate predictions based on the fact that I project my own insecurity on other people in an anonymous image board
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>>10185770
GL : shallow bullshit for 12 year old shonenfags :: Clannad : seinen rated animation for mature anime fans such as myself ^_^
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It sounds like most of you guys are basically in agreement over what animation studios you like, and are just arguing over the particulars. It reeks somewhat of elitism.
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>>10185761

True. They're a very good business studio though. They know their fan base and they make shows that are designed to appeal to as wide a range of those fans as possible. They also seem to know the crazy amounts of money the Japanese otaku will spend on shit.
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>>10185770
GL is not GAR or manly, it's boyish.
Clannad is moeblob.
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>>10185738
>they are far from being the worst
Quit looking for implications where there are none to be found. I never said they were the worst.

>I wouldn't consider them to be "low quality".
What is "Low quality" if not "Unable to stand on level ground with what can be considered "Good?" "Low quality" is different from "Complete shit," you know. Pretty much every aspect of their projects aside from animation fluidity is low quality.
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>>10185786
1/10
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>>10185738
>they are far from being the worst
Quit looking for implications where there are none to be found. I never said they were the worst.

>I wouldn't consider them to be "low quality".
What is "Low quality" if not "Unable to stand on level ground with what can be considered good?" "Low quality" is different from "Complete shit," you know. Pretty much every aspect of their projects aside from animation fluidity is low quality.
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>>10185794
>It reeks somewhat of elitism.
This thread is an exercise in elitism.
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>>10185761
moe crap seems to be popular and its a niche someone has to take,whats wrong with that?

i don't like key crap either,but that does not make kyoto animation a shitty studio.
the designs may be generic,but moefags in japan won't be satisfied with anything else,so i don't think kyoto animation had a choice.
they either stick with the most moe designs they can come up with or they lose their fanbase,simple as that.
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>>10185858
Making them a shitty studio if you happen to dislike moe.
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>>10185866
only if you ignore their other works.
i enjoyed fumoffy quite a lot,tsr was certainly better than the LOL GONZO first season and haruhi was a pretty good show too.
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>>10185206
he looks like spongebob
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>>10185843
It's almost proselytizing in its own way as well. Though I would tend to agree that people should watch more of the revolutionary stuff, so that that which is currently popular might actually fade away and the common shows would be higher quality, I can understand why someone who genuinely likes KyoAni for example would see this attitude as condescending, and take criticism to the animation studio as a kind of criticism of the self (run-on sentence lol). The result of this is, of course, that these people get pissed off and shun the great shows simply because, "that pretentious bastard kept hyping it up." It's a cycle of despair.
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>>10185828
The thing is you aren't backing anything you are saying, I could accept your opinion if you actually tried to do so. Right now what you are saying is "they are low level because I said so".
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Kyoani is the highest quality anime studio. Their animation is the most consistent throughout all their shows.
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FUCK YOU I LIKE CIRNO
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>>10185911
What the fuck is wrong with you
>>10185828
This is unlike you. /r/ a tl;dr explanation of why KyoAni's a low quality studio.
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>>10185969
now he looks like a television screen
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>>10185955
Gurren is mostly well done with a few shitty frames once in a while, Kyoani's stuff is consistently shitty.
>>10185976
Well, his head IS a television.
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>>10185976
thats because his head IS a TV
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>>10185991
>>10185987
spongetv it is then.
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>>10186001
I kind of raged
5/10
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>>10185987
Honestly, if you don't pretend everything it produced is Clannad, how can you say KyoAni's animation quality is consistently shitty without being a blatant dumbfuck? I want to know.
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>>10186023

By lying.
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>>10186023
Okay, Fullmetal Panic fummfuamsufasudofipoausodjrfd looked decent, even a stopped clock is right twice a day
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>>10186057
Fumoffu, TSR, and Haruhi were good. As for the Key Animu, well, they had their ups and downs (lol pun) but then, they couldn't completely ignore the source material (which was shit, no denying).
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This thread is full of fags who don't know what the fuck they are talking about, LOL at Cirno and his followers who think spamming stuff like "direction, storyboarding, and visual characterization" make them look smart and LOL at those who think Kyoani does high level stuff.
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>>10186057
Not if it's a 24 hour clock.
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>>10186106
educate us!
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How about comparing Kyoto Animation when they actually produce something original?

You're comparing an animation studio to a studio that produces its own material and animates it.
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>>10186106
Really?

Call you Captain Obvious.
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>>10186057
Fumoffu didn't have remarkable animation or anything like that.
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>>10186138
Go watch Munto.
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idk, the best animated TV series of 2007 was still Seirei no Moribito
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>>10185955
dont you mean nice backgrounds?



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