How they could have gotten the show from Episode 10 to episode 15 without going through the SINFUL TRAVESTY of episodes 11-14
Episode 10, King Torture reveals he has the same face as Hazama. This gets out somehow, only showing a picture of King in his outfit without the mask. Unlike where they showed both Hazama and no one questioned it. Episodes 11 and 12 can be used to show Mari going through her period and getting back together with her gal pals, while Hazama gets back into the grove of a more normal life, dealing with the regular ol' thugs and criminals (But way more skilled at it now).
Episode 14 Flamenco Girls and Red Axe are arrested, the hit is put out on Hazama and it's basically episode 16 aside from the MMM reunion since that happened already.
They could still have had a hero from another country come to explain the situation but handle it better.
TOOK ME FIVE FUCKING MINUTES
WAS THIS SO HARD?
>still watching QUALITY script and animation: the show
But it was pretty good the first ten episodes, I really didn't want to drop it.
As fucking painful as 11-14 was
I just finished the first episode and it was quite the painful watch. I don't think I will be continuing, especially since I'm hearing that it all goes downhill after episode 7.
>pretty good the first ten episodes
>jumping the flying shark and le gorilla face was in 7
I really didn't mind the 11-14 arc OP.
KT arc wasn't that bad, it got more silly yes but to an acceptable level.
The moment itself with the gorilla was pretty intense, then it brought up good points such as monsters of the week becoming a norm, and KT's view on evil and justice. Unfortunately KT wasn't explored as much as he should have been.
You got shit taste then faggot cause that was poorly executed as fuck.
Jesus, I'm sorry my tastes aren't up to your impeccable standards.
You should be.
Needs more woman.
>That moe walk
Why is she so perfect?
>Manager-san and Masayoshi run away from their busy lives together and leave Japan behind
But I want to see MMMake out session
Except SF was always good.
Nah it wasn't, the writers straight up didn't know what to do or got incredibly lazy, hence 11-14.
Anyone with 1/4 brain function can see how poorly it was done.
There is no need to fix it.
It has justice and I like justice. It needs more manager though.
Except 11-14 were good, especially 13 and 14.
anyone who didnt have a problem with mid way SF are exactly whats wrong these days
stories dont need to be coherent or well written as long as they are wacky and random
probably the same people who watch big bang and pewdiepie enjoyed it
Pretty much what it comes down to isn't it?
The show established a certain world over the course of several episodes, the Gorilla did amp the silly up a bit but again to an acceptable level for the sake of a major baddie showing up.
But after episode ten? It stopped trying, it threw it all away for no reason with absolutely no warning and the people who like it try to defend it with "ITS SUPPOSED TO BE RANDOM AND SILLY IT'S SENTAI XD"
No, it's fucking not. If it showed that off in the start, there would be no problem, but you don't introduce that 10+ episodes in, that's just fucking retarded.
yeah it still amazes me how people could not only accept but defend the shit that happened, really shows how shit standards have become
all this samefag
Sorry bro, but it is one of the best shows currently airing. You are entitled to your own opinion though.
keep it as a SoL show pre-gorilla.
No seriously, fuck manglobe
>hmm samurai flamenco looks like a stupid power rangers show
>see threads on /a/ about hayama and gotou being bros
>watch an episode
>literally fall in love with every aspect of the show
>surprise of the season, definitely my AOTS
>look forward to it every week
>suddenly donkey kong happens
>what the fuck was that
>watch 2 more episodes
>be very sad it's utter shit
>AOTS becomes one of my only dropped shows in my entire anime viewing history
The pre-gorilla part is just an extended origin story. The themes and characterization have stayed consistent over the entire show. Frankly, I love SF as it is now and wouldn't change a thing.
>All these people who still don't get the point of Samurai Flamenco
You know, if they just reworked Spiral Power, they wouldn't have needed to put giant robots in TTGL either! I wonder why they never thought of it?
I totally understand where you're coming from, and it's a shame they couldn't avoid it, or even try too.
For me personally I think KT's arc wasn't all that bad, I think they definitely could have toned it down in the supernatural/unrealistic aspects while keeping the core of it down.
I think KT had great fucking potential as a villain.
>Those four fucking Rangers
Why couldn't we get more of those 2 managers?
Checked my folder as well and the only episodes I didn't save were 11 and 12. That part was shit
Except it didn't stay consistent aside from Hazama himself. Even Koijio changed quiet a bit as a character.
The Flamengers were shallow as fuck, to a point it was painful to watch.
At times it tried to act like it was a parody...but it became so unclever about it.
You could see some of the "parody" elements of Sentai and what not in the pre-ten episodes without it being so fucking in your face and lazy about it.
Heroes suddenly existing without any sort of hint before hand, along with supernatural powers and what not. Now in 15/16 they're working towards reversing all that shit they pulled by arresting all the heroes so there is a reason to never see them again.
Not to mention Flamenco Girls and Gotoh were almost totally ignored for all those episodes to focus on some "THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE SHITTY AND SHALLOW" rangers and villains.
See this image >>101839741
i watched from the very start, I still like it and am looking forward to riding the crazy train to the end
I was supposed to catch up on it this weekend.
next weekend I promise
Where are you at?
You can literally skip 11-14 and just assume whenever they mention the From enemies they mean King Torture.
Save your self the heart ache.
You should catch up before Thursday, last week's episode was great.
I dropped it more like fell behind on episode 8
So yeah, just go ahead and skip 11-14.
Only thing you'll miss is watching the show become a hollow shell of it's former self and any of the drama and serious moments feeling watered down since ITS A WACKY PARODY XD
i dropped when he joined the power rangers. does this show get watchable again?
So, is "anyone who enjoyed episodes 11-14 just liked it because it was lolsorandumbXD" the new "Mari was raped"?
I'll watch 11 but if I don't like it I'll follow your advice. Thanks.
pic related, why I want to pick it up again
Yes, as of 15 it's been working to crawl out of the shit hole it created
16 was a legitimately good episode.
Episode 16 was the best episode since before the King Torture days.
This guys really forcing this shit down everyone's throat.
Go for it, episode 11 feels like an actual joke.
The only reason I didn't drop it at that point was because I really thought it was going to be a "It was all a dream/TV show" thing to it, because of how fucking poorly done it was.
That happens episode 16
The entire flamengers thing was to show Masayoshi that being a full blown hero with a nation's future on your back is actually pretty shitty at times. And how to be a leader of a team forced together by circumstances.
Before he was just playing at being hero before KT appeared, but then he got to be the real thing he always loved to watch on tv on a much larger scale.
The real problem is that the flamengers arc didn't have a lot of tact to it in how it was executed and fitting in with the rest of the show, but I can see why Manglobe did it in the first place.
It's pretty simple: You've never watched any Sentai, so you had nothing to relate to during those episodes. Sure, you can criticize the concept of the show because it requires a viewer to have already seen multiple genres to not have dull spots, but don't just complain about the one genre you don't like. Everything you say about being "shallow" and "unclever parodies" can be applied to any other segment of the show.
Complain all you want. But you know damn well that if the Sentai bit had come first you wouldn't be complaining about how the other Flamengers got ignored in favor of "MUH BUDDY COP" or "SHALLOW GENERIC BITCHY IDOLS", so complain about the right things. Otherwise, all your arguments can be summed up as
>They stopped doing a theme I like and focused on a theme I don't like for a while
Don't skip 11-14, you're going to miss Beyond Flamenco. Not to mention most of the sentai stuff is only two episodes. 13 and 14 were amazing.
Remember the dark days of December when there was a hiatus and the rape shitposting was at full force? This is nothing. Sometimes I wonder why SF is even a target for so much shitposting like this.
I like Samflam for what it is. Insane. If you liked it because it was japanese Kickass, i'm sorry, but that was just one, innocent phase of its life. It has moved on. You need to move on too.
There is seriously something wrong with you. Drop a show or don't, but skipping episodes is wrong on many levels.
yeah welcome to /a/, if you don't like it go to reddit where everyone will be nice and accept your garbage taste
I get that, but it was done so unbelievably bad it made me physical ill to watch it.
Like it was pissing all over the development and world it worked to established in the past episodes.
>It's pretty simple: You've never watched any Sentai
Stopped right fucking there.
Like I said, if it came off the way it did in 11-14 from the start that's one thing. But it wasn't a wacky POORLY done Sentai parody until 10+ episodes in.
I don't have a problem with mechs, sentais or colorful wackyness.
I have a problem with how it was fucking done in a show that didn't hint it was going that route.
>Someone has a legitimate issue with a series
>So it's shit posting
Sorry /a/ isn't your hugbox.
>Majority of the episodes
>"one innocent phase"
What sentai have you seen?
>It's pretty simple: You've never watched any Sentai
I hate seeing this, this is a common argument people use to defend that arc and it doesn't fucking work since myself and several people I know who didn't like the arc genuinely love Sentai. So just stop saying this.
A majority means over half. Guilloutine Gorilla occurred on episode 7.
You may not consider that your turning point, but it was a turning point. It was the first tone change. Episode 1-6 were a phase. Episodes 6-10 were a phase. Episodes 11-16 were a phase. We've now moved on to another phase.
I don't think you really need to watch sentai to enjoy SF. Sure, episodes 11-12 were a little weak, but they weren't that bad, and the rest more than made up for it.
>how it was fucking done in a show that didn't hint it was going that route.
Oh gosh, anon. In four or five years, when a thread arises for the occasion, I'm going to post the screencap I just took of that. And you'll laugh with the rest of us at how silly you once were. This is the show with super-office supplies!
Kamen Rider Amazon, Black, Kabuto, Akiba Rangers, and if you want to count them most of the American Power Rangers.
And I enjoyed all of them for the most part.
KT's arc didn't ignore previous established characters in favor of shallow parodies and still developed them.
11-14 felt like a whole new world that Hazama was just teleported too. It so casually just was like "Oh yeah well all this secret highly advanced tech, heroes and shit existed forever"
At least they introduced GG and the KT's arc properly so it felt like a setting change and not a whole new shallow world.
I never said you were wrong you edgy /a/utist. You repeating your shit over and over isn't convincing anyone that they're wrong and you're right.
>KT's arc didn't ignore previous established characters in favor of shallow parodies and still developed them.
So basically you're dividing the entire show into "parts I like" and "parts I don't like" and refuse to recognize the clear distinctions between its sections.
Whatever, there is no convincing you. The Guillotine Gorilla segment was the end of Japanese Kick Ass phase. If you can't see that its clearly divided into 4 arcs thus far, you're too far up your own ass or just too stupid to bother talking to.
Stopped reading there, I don't argue with people who use words they don't understand cause it's a buzzword.
Not that anon, but I think you're thinking of toku.
>It so casually just was like "Oh yeah well all this secret highly advanced tech, heroes and shit existed forever"
And King Torture wasn't? "Oh yeah, giant holograms and chainsaw arms and mutated man-cobras. Worth a news story or two."
And this new bit isn't either? "Oh yeah Mr. Justice was around in Vietnam. Superheroes have been around forever."
Keep it sharp m8
Not that anon either, but yup. "Poster on 4chan gets riled up over something, reveals he doesn't know what he's talking about. Film at 11"
There is a difference between going from Gear 1 to Gear 2 and then going from Gear 2 into Gear 7.
And again, KT arc was still properly introduced.
They literally glossed over majorly changing the whole setting to a whole new fucking plane in a matter of a couple of seconds.
Hazama was barely even surprised
Stopped reading there, I don't argue with people who use words they don't understand cause it's a buzzword.
Then what's Sentai? Fucking enlighten me.
Not even being sarcastic.
But I used the word correctly, you're trying too hard anon.
why hasn't anyone posted this?
Sentai are superhero teams, to put it simply.
I already has been. Read thread
Most of the time, it refers to Power Ranger's source material, essentially Japanese Power Rangers. Super Sentai.
Toku is Rider+Sentai
Rider->Kamen Rider etc/lone rider
Sentai->5 or more man team basically Power Rangers
Then my bad, I didn't realize that.
I still listed the fucking Power Rangers/Akiba didn't I?
>not liking Flamen Robo and its penis laser
Also, I find it hilarious that you wrote 'nonsensual' instead of nonsensical when complaining about the writing. Yeah, it didn't give me much of a boner either.
Super Sentai is a series. Even you faggots don't know what you're talking about
Tokusatsu means a show that relies heavily on special effects. Kamen Rider is a toku, but that doesn't mean all toku is Kamen Rider.
Just stop posting.
Super Sentai is a franchise with many series under its belt. Power Rangers was adapted from one of these series, I don't remember which, but he is correct.
Kamen Rider is not Super Sentai. It is not a part of the same franchise and lacks many key components.
Toku does, in fact, refer to both Kamen Rider and Super Sentai. Kamen Rider is also a franchise with many installments.
T:'DR: You are fucking stupid.
Why is this one /v/-tier faggot so intent on spamming the same retarded "JUST SKIP 11-14 YOU WON'T MISS ANYTHING" bullshit?
You miss a fucking ton. The entire next arc won't carry nearly as much emotional weight without having watched those episodes to learn more about the Prime Minister, what's going on with the other characters, etc. And the sections involving the actual characters take up a surprisingly large amount of time in the episodes if you actually watch them. The only major part you could justify skipping at all is the long fight in the second half of Ep12.
If your ADHD is so bad that you have to skip five episodes of a show because you find a few scenes in them boring, you're pathetic, end of story.
Not that I'm taking a shit on the MM production team, but go watch Zyuranger episode 1 and Mighty Morphin episode 1.
The parts where they've cut scenes and put them together all slapdash is painfully obvious and gives you a headache. Since now you know hot it's supposed to go, the cut and out of sequence fight scenes are incredibly jarring.
How can you feel any "emotional weight" when 11-14 were purely parody/joke episodes? It turned the series into a joke. It's like when a series kills off and revives a character often. It stops holding weight cause you can't take it seriously.
No one would skip them cause they're boring you idiot. You skip them so you don't lose that emotional attachment to the world, so that the show CAN hold emotion weight and have a coherent line of drama.
I wasn't arguing that Kamen Rider is Super Sentai, you faggot. I just meant that it's wrong to answer the question "What is sentai?" with a link to Super Sentai, faggot. That's like someone asking what is anime and posting a link to Sailor Moon. Yes, it's an anime but that doesn't mean all anime is sailor moon.
TLDR: No you
>How can you feel any "emotional weight" when 11-14 were purely parody/joke episodes?
No they weren't. Did episode 13 sound like a joke to you?
It should've, faggot
>How can you feel any "emotional weight" when 11-14 were purely parody/joke episodes? It turned the series into a joke.
I have no idea how anyone can hold this opinion. Episode 13 is the most intense suffering of the show.
Sentai, in this context, was referring to Super Sentai, which is specifically what was being parodies during episodes 11-14. Yes, Sentai doesn't necessarily mean super sentai, but the parodying was fairly explicit.
He liked the King Torture ones because it specifically parodied Kamen Rider and, surprise surprise, he has actually seen some of the Kamen Riders.
The point is that he is fucking stupid, but I guess semantically, you are correct.
They came off as purely a joke to me with a few serious moments forced in.
>Those introduction videos for From and the Toxic guy
>Four Kings...64 general...168 etc
>All the enemy designs in general (Not even KT arc's enemys were as silly)
>The rangers boiled down to "The smart guy, the weapon guy, the jealous blue, the girl"
>The way they so casually introduced it all in episode 11, as if it was no big fucking deal
>Suddenly thousands of heroes exist
How could you take the show seriously at this point? I just can't understand it.
>Skip episodes because I don't like it even though it has relevant and necessary information!
Can OP fuck off now?
I know that. It just irks me when people keep using words they don't know. Even more when they try to act superior over others when they themselves are wrong.
Sorry, I guess I'm just too mad in general right now.
Did Masayoshi throwing up because of the pressure between telling the population or following orders seem like a joke? Really? Maybe you should stop cherrypicking.
I said it had a few serious moments forced in didn't I?
But mixing serious moments in with silly over the top moments don't help it.
Did you forget that the exact same fucking thing happened in the King Torture arc?
It seems like you and reading comprehension isn't on speaking terms.
OST when? I'm convinced that a parody version of 1st KR OP played somewhere in the final episodes of KT arc.
Not to the same extent.
Explain how Episode 8 is any "better" (by your standards) than Episode 12, without saying "because Mari is mai waifu and she didn't show up enough in 12"
The entire show is action alternating with drama.
king torture arc was much, much less of a superhero sendup. and i enjoyed the second arc, but the show went from featuring occasional absurd cliches to being almost entirely about them.
The points of King Torture and From Beyond arcs were to show Masayoshi change from simply wanting to be a hero to understanding what it means to be a hero. During the King Torture arc Masayoshi’s ego had become overly inflated from a combination of the easy opponents, help from the flamenco girls joining him in the fight, Harazukato’s inventions and Goto managing the politics. King Torture causes Masayoshi to realize how heavily he relied upon his friends who all supported his selfish dream in one way or another. At this point he still wasn’t an actual hero yet, KT shows him this reality when at the end Masayoshi realizes that he cannot do it by himself and that the combined sacrifice of his friends was what allowed him to do what he did.
I don't remember what happened in those episodes exactly.
Do you mean the introduction of GG and From Beyond?
GG had a much more serious moment, graphically killing off cops, almost killing Hazama
Introduction of From Beyond had some shitty music video that looked like it was made in the 90s and was introduced to Hazama like "oh yeah, this exists, you're the leader"
After KT Masayoshi is humbled and unsure of his abilities, he is unsure about involving his friends because he realized how much they sacrificed to help him. The Flamangers enter and change the situation around entirely. Before being a hero was almost like a game to Masayoshi, and that he was having fun. Not only did the Flamangers depend on his leadership now, but Japan depended on him to keep them safe from From Beyond. At this point he had lost his confidence in himself, as well as his support that had helped him in the past. The Flamangers basically teach Masayoshi to become leader and a hero now not just because it is his desire, but because others depend upon him to do so. Over this period his responsibilities grow as people begin to depend upon him which causes him to mature into an actual hero. The fights aren’t just Flamen Red going solo and wrecking shit easy, he develops teamwork and leadership skills and gratitude for all the support.
Ep 1 to 7.5 was OK, somewhat enjoyable. 7 to 10 was wtf is this shit. ep 11 onwards you come to accept your fate and THE RIDE NEVER ENDS
These two arcs set up what is currently happening by causing Masayoshi to develop the attributes of a true hero, but now he is faced with a crisis that puts him in the role of the helpless victim. There is a parallel with the King Torture arc where he didn’t realize how selfish he was being and now where he has matured and seeks help from Goto knowing full well how helpless he is alone.
>I don't remember what happened in those episodes exactly.
I marathoned it, I remember the events and their order just not exactly what number episode it was.
Episode 8 wasn't GG. GG was the last 3 minutes if episode 7. Episode 8 would have been one of the episodes between KT and GG in which Masayoshi fights a bunch of generic villains. No one dies after GG.
There are at least 2 episodes like this, but you seem to have forgotten they exist. That is the other anon's point.
MMM34 froze a girl and smashed her to pieces
>MMM34 froze a girl and smashed her to pieces
You are correct. Crazy Toxic Jester I mean poison also killed a fuckload of people. I meant the last civilian to die in that arc, although I should have specified that. KT and Diamond's Virginity both die in that arc, although they're not civilians.
Its interesting how GG and Crazy Toxic Poison both kill a huge amount of people in their first appearance. Its almost as if the arcs follow the same fucking format.
Except by Toxic was killing generic sci-fi soldiers in a super secret base, laser guns and all so it was much less tolling.
GG beheaded and snapped the neck of real police officers during a drug bust.
But how are they gonna introduce the fucking Flamengers.
Remember Fkamen Blue need to get his shit beaten by the prime minister.
How about not giving the Prime Minister nanomachines to begin with?
That's stupid. You're stupid.
But then there goes the whole show. You need to remeber that they planned this all from the very beginning.
not enough JUSTICE in this thread