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What is the worst art you have ever seen in a manga?
I mean art that is truly shit and cannot be defended
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>>101793763
You post something first.
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>>101793763
Code gayss. Cmon this thing look like some weird yaoi shit, this is just terrible.
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And I mean something like this (even though /co/ defends it)
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>>101793894
or this
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>>101793894
Old yaoi djs that I will not talk about
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There exists some really weird shoujo manga, where the heads are really small
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>>101793763
Higurashi VN.

HAM
HANDS
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This episode in NHK
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sameface
only one facial expression
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There might be worse, but the first thing that came to my mind is Higurashi, the level of QUALITY there is just insane.

It doesn't help that the series is such a piece of shit One of the worst I've ever seen.

I dislike the cockroach-looking haircuts and dead eyes of Key girls as well.
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>>101793763
you're mom's
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Elfen Lied
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>>101793989
You can't be serious
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Ahem...
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>>101793763
SnK
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>>101793891
Welcome to CLAMP.
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>>101794131
this is not real
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>>101793989
You must hate Jojo.
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>>101794143
What is it with whales and giant mouths?
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During my 3 year stay in Japan I went to see the book store.
There was a manga which had literally every panel with shitty 3D assests traced on top of it. That shit was uglier than Gantz and the more confusing part was the fact that it had 20 volumes released already.
>mfw
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One punch man. It was so bad they got someone else to redraw it.
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>>101794194

Google it, faggot.
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>>101794295
gantz is amazing, fuck off
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>>101794143
Don't like yaoihands, anon?
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>>101794251
It's called Dog Catalog
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>>101794143
OP didn't ask for the funniest.
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>>101794302
no, this just CANNOT be real
I mean, HOW could it possibly real? did the artist just get tired of drawing and said fuck it?
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>>101794143
JESUS FUCKING CHRIST THOSE HANDS
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>>101794321
Ok
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>>101793989
its not really good from an artistic standpoint, but how can you not love his artstyle?
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>>101794335
What yaoi hands? His hand is the same size as his face, like yours.
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>>101793989
He draws better than Tezuka at least.
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>>101794143
Oh god this is great.
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>>101794521
Fuck you.
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>>101794143
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Jojo's manga art is disgusting to me.
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How do you go from pic related to this..
>>101794302
>>101794131

I mean even his layouts used to be interesting. What happened?
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early stardust crusaders
early diamond is unbreakable
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>>101794475
Uh, no, the uke's hands are about the size of the seme's face.
Seme's hands are almost twice the length of his face, and 3-4 times the length of the uke's face.
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>>101794634
pleb
>2perfect4u
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>>101794656

He's at over 300 chapters now or something, I'd be tired too.
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>>101794366
>Not knowing Togashi
It's exactly what you said. Oddly enough, I like it. I don't know why...
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>>101794634
Fuck you, ARISE MY MASTERS belongs in a museum.
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I've hated one piece since the first day I saw it
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>>101793951
There were 3 or so that were like that.
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There's this turd in every issue of wsj called "one piece." It's apparently a fruit commercial or something. I don't know if anyone's heard of it, but the artwork is fucking awful.

Attacked By Titus before it was completely drawn by magical assistants is remarkably similar to a chimpanzee dragging shit across paper.

Also see every shoujo manga ever.
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>>101794889
attack on titan has amazing art
>b-b-but I don't like it ;w;
it's the artist's unique artstyle, the fact that it's unique already makes it stand out and that makes it good
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>>101794889
>There's this turd in every issue of wsj called "one piece." It's apparently a fruit commercial or something. I don't know if anyone's heard of it, but the artwork is fucking awful.
Anon you don't seem to understand the difference between not liking a style and something having bad art.
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>>101794768
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yC0bA_NZ3vI
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>>101794634
started out pretty mediocre but then it became amazing.
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>>101794656
Your pic related is not stellar at all. It's below average actually.
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>>101794942
Different=/=Good.
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Initial D
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>>101795076
but the art in one piss is absolutely disgusting
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>>101795165
But, that's like, your opinion, man
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>>101794768
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SnK

It's fucking MONTHLY
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>>101795192
Nah, the art is shit and you're just a blind fanboy.
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>>101795192
What a profound statement. Might I suggest you faggots banter about subjectivity in the dumpster your mothers left you in?
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How do you prefer your sports animu?
The more realistic ones like Major and Giant Killing.
Or the better turn my brain off for them finishing moves like Inazuma Eleven and Eyeshield 21.
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>>101795165
Anon, do you need to take that Arthur Facts vs Opinions quiz again?
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>>101795147
I posted the wrong pic and now I can't be assed going and finding the one I was looking for.
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>>101793989
I'm sure you think all Japs have sameface too.
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>>101794302
>>101794131
In my (his) defense, there are manga that totally looks like that since the first chapter and always will be.

Art is not everything but unless you can write god tier script like Cromartie you better learn how to draw. Cromartie even mess up basic proportion every now and then. But this is my answer to OP question, it's still relatively good.
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>>101795331
ARR ROOK SAME
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>>101795165
Hang on! Are you saying this is bad?
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>>101794302
what chapter is this ?
>>101794131
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>>101795222
perfection

>>101795305
this is great, just different
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webtoon art. pigdisgusting, impure, horrible, defiling.
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>>101795148
different does equal good in /co/, at least
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>>101795222
>500x
Literally poor-quality bait.
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>>101795331
When genetic engineering becomes routine they'll all ostracize each other into having same face. We're just from the future.
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>>101795305
>Hating on based Matsumoto
No seriously, fuck you.
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>>101794295
I know that one.Gantz's author draw that before Gantz. Gantz is my favourite but the manga you mention is really shit and those 3D panels were just a gamecaps.
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>>101795377
It's one of the last chapters of Greed Island, duh.

I can't remember if this was retouched in the tankoubon version or not, but it can't be too much of an improvement at any rate.
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Toriko.

I swear to fucking god, the author didn't even any form of progress at all after all these years.
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Aku no Hana or whatever that rotoscope atrocity was called.
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>>101795305
>going full pleb
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>>101794889
>fruit commercial
lol lol lol that one got me.
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>>101795376
It's awful. Can barely even tell what's going on in that page.
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>>101794669
Nah the art was till good, it just didn't fit the setting.
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>>101795385
/co/ is fucking dumb
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Soul Eater 1.
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Upotte. At least the early chapters were enough for me not to be able to read it.
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>>101795565
>Not rub-a-dub dub thanks for the grub.
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>>101795491
We are talking about manga you retard.Aku no Hana's manga art is excellent.
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>>101795385
/co/ are called /co/cksuckers for a reason
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>>101795562
>>101795621
well, /co/mrades are defending this shit
>>101793894
>>101793924
so you might be right
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>>101794131
Tankoubon version
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>>101795620
Well i know that.
I haven't seen horrible manga art, but Hunter x Hunter's art is pretty bad.
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>>101795539
I agree. And the lengths some people go to defending Oda when his art can be REALLY incomprehensible can be annoying.
But I just can't hate One Piece or him. He dose have a good imagination at the very lest.
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>>101794302
Tankoubon version
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>>101794131
>>101795692
So this one is just a sketch?
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>>101795770
Why did chicken get worse?
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>>101795565
Jesus christ, I don't remember it being that awful.
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>>101795692
I wonder how much time it usually take to make the crowd in the first panel
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>>101795779
The first one was published as you see it in the magazine. Second is the tankoubon version (the hard/paper cover volume)
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>>101795779
Yes, but it was actually printed and never corrected.
>>101795828
Too much detail, it was corrected.
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>>101795565
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>>101795779
Well, yeah, except those half-finished sketches were published in Jump because Togashi is lazy and doesn't give a shit.
I think it was assistants who had to care to redraw all those pages for the tankoubon.

>>101795828
It looked too delicious.
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>>101795768
I dropped One Piece because I didn't know what the fuck was going on with the panels.
Seriously made my eyes hurt, how the fuck do people manage to get what is going on?
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>>101795828
It's either the chicken or the people
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>>101793951
But…I liked those episodes.
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>>101795986
15 years of being a fanboy will do that to you.
Then you have the anime watchers, Marineford-kiddies and Skypea bandwagoners.
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>>101796053
OP fans are on par with Jojo and Berserk fans.
Every single manga discussion ever "OP/Jojo/Berserk is better," "read OP/Jojo/Berserk instead," "OP/Jojo/Berserk is flawless. Best manga ever."

Fuck it's annoying.
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>>101795986
He gets better
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>>101796171
You can't deny that Berserk fans have their reason at least compared to the other two. Heck, even Jojo fans have their reason.

Whereas OP is just a smelly piece of shit. One SHIT.
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>>101796171
You forgot HxH.Same with Jojo fans but a little more retarded.
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>>101796262
berserk is literally "nothing happens: the manga"
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>>101794366
The author isn't in a good condition at the moment but he still delivers chapters although they are in script form
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>>101796318
>literally
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>>101794143
They've been getting their crystal therapy.
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>>101795986
Dude, I totally get you. I think two of His biggest problems is that
1. he tries to squash a lot of his action sequences in smaller panels
2. All his black (sound effects included) seem to blend into each other.

Even if your doing layout tricks the image should read immediately. I'm sure some asshole will tell us something like 'well your just too stupid to read it' but I really think he's not that great at sequential clarity.
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>>101796173
hell yeah he does. Almost every artist starts out rough and improves through the series. This is a while ago. The art in dressrosa has been amazing.
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>>101796318
And you're literally subhuman with 0 reading comprehension
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>>101794634
Araki's art is freaking amazing. You may not like the style, but Araki's art at it's peak in part 7 was gorgeous. Some of the stuff he draws belongs in the freaking Louvre. His style, his designs, how he messes around with colors - he loves what he does too, Araki was born to be an artist.
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>>101796171
Nigga, I'm both a JoJo AND a Berserk fan and I can wholeheartedly say that while we know that these series are great, we don't try to flaunt and shove them down everyone's throat about how great it is like fucking OnePiecefags. OPfags honestly think that after reading One Piece for a certain amount of time that they somehow know everything about manga. They are the most pretentious faggots ever. So please, don't associate us with those faggots.
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>>101796173

Every excuse ever about One Piece art.
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>>101796397
Actually Oda started out really clean. The first three volumes of One Piece are fine. I guess story telling trumped drawing in the middle there.
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>>101795385
/co/ is full of hipsters, poseurs and underaged landwhale cunts
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>>101796513
Those faggots are usually from /v/.
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>>101796533
Cool
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>>101796318
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>>101796435
I only found out the other week he's married. I just figured he was probably gay, looking at his art.
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>>101796585
I can believe that.
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>>101796513
The Berserk fanbase is among the absolute worse for a different reason - that being the fact that 90% of it's fans are the most over-entitled little bitches of any fanbase on /a/. Seriously, it's unbearable, and I say that as a fan of the manga myself.
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>>101794942
Flawless fanboy logic right here. Isayama's art is nothing but scribbles.
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>>101796591

Nice reply, did you mimic the epic MC of One Piece?
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>>101796171
being a jojo fan i must say, the whole "jojo is perfect" thing is more of a banter than blind fanboyism
this friend of mine doesn't like anime/manga, but he decided to watch jojo because i kept talking about how silly and fun it was. he dropped it close to the end. i obviously don't blame him for not loving it but i keep calling him a pleb, just for fun.
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>>101796684
Every fanbase is terrible and if it isn't yet, it will be.
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>>101796684
You seem to be confused with longtime fans and readers of Berserk with people who only caught up with it recently and marathoned all the chapters to catch up.

The former understands the level of quality that Miura puts into each of his chapters (on large canvases may I add) since he's a perfectionist who will throw a page away and start over if he makes the slightest mistake, and thus needs more time to submit the best work possible since he's so passionate about his job.

The latter are faggots who only recently caught up who sit and bitch going "HURRY THE FUCK UP MIURA" and when you tell them why it takes so long they still fucking complain like entitled mongoloid fucks. I hate them too and I hate how they've become assimilated into Berserk's fanbase.
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>>101793894
the new Xman comic this fucking issue , fuck
not only the art but the writing is also shit
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>>101796964
That's why I said 90% of the fanbase. Undoubtedly, if you have been in any of the recent Gigantomakia or Berserk threads,at this point,those people make up quite a large portion of the fanbase on /a/.
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That generic shoujo style.
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>>101795565
Wait, that shit got released?
Someone actually thought that looked good?
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>>101796171
I don't think anyone but Berserk fans do that.
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>>101797092
awful
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>>101797184
I think 90% is a bit of an exaggeration. I'd say a good half of the fanbase is like that, but not 90%.
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>>101796397
The art was best in Skypeia and Enies Lobby.
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>>101793894
>>101793924
>>101797052
>All western comics are shit
>Lets only use capeshit as examples.
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>>101797321
Who are you quoting?
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>>101797198
>I don't think anyone but One Piece fans to that.
FTFY
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>>101797270
>>101796964
Oh shut the fuck up, I've been following Berserk for 8 years now and I'm thoroughly fed up with Miura's stalling tactics bullshit.
Keep it up and it will get canned, 3 flopped movies and declining sales will make sure of that.
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>>101797321
No one said that.
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>>101797270
I admit I'm probably just exaggerating, but my point remains that those people, whatever percentage they make up, are some of the absolute worst people on all of /a/.
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>>101797321
No need to be upsed /co/cksucker
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>>101797379
All OP-fags usually say is that it isn't shit.
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>>101797321
You're quoting who?
Those pages are bad. Here are some good ones
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>>101797271
It has its moments of bad.
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>>101797092
I've been waiting for this one. Every time people say that Oda sucks this same fucking picture gets posted, as if iconic double page spreads are somehow representative of the usual art quality.
Go back to sucking dick.
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>>101797266
>gets proven wrong
>a-a-awful

OP haters everyone
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>>101797400
YOU shut the fuck up. I just explained in my post why it's understandable why new chapters of Berserk take so long to come out. While I'm eager to see what happens next in the story, I'm perfectly fine with the amount of time it takes to make a new chapter so long as the level of quality is always stellar. Do you have ANY idea how fucking difficult and stressful it is to draw such a detailed manuscript as Berserk? Why don't YOU try to write and draw a 35 page manuscript that looks just as good if not better than Miura's work? You may find it to be a lot harder than you think.

Also, Berserk is considered to be one of the most influential seinen manga of all time to take place in a Western European setting. Whenever anyone makes a project be it anime/manga/or lite novel, they almost always look to Berserk for inspiration. Also, Berserk is Hakusensha and Young Animal's most profitable manga. If you honestly think that they're gonna cancel it then you're a fucking idiot.
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>>101797524
because that's the truth
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>>101796318
Not sure if retarded or troll..
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>>101797870
>gets proven wrong
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>>101794634

Its just too bizarre for you to handle
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>>101797870
Explain why this >>101795376 is so awful.
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>>101797916
It stands to reason that I've followed Berserk longer than you have and I've endured more than you have.
Miura is a professional, cherrypicking coming at the expense of productivity is not acceptable, perfectionism is not an option when you have a deadline.
Do your fucking job and get the hell of nico douga, you lazy fuck.
Even Togashi is more admirable than for his work ethic.
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>>101796648
he probably is
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>>101794634
Part 1 was ugly to me too. Jonathan was too fucking huge
But otherwise it's good
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>>101798049
Panel composition is bad, art has you guessing what is going on, shitty overuse of vertical lines
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I remember thinking that the beginning volumes of Dorohedoro looked kind of shitty, but looking back it was really just a few of the color pages.

The art improved so much though.
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>>101797916
I wonder how deluded one has to be to belive that Miura's work ethic is not terrible.
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>>101796558
I didn't notice that when I read this.
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>>101798082
There's no point in productivity if you need time for figuring out how to approach the story any further.

It's better to have something on hiatus than to have it become a plothole ridden shitty train wreck like a lot of series.
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>>101796964
I agree with you wholeheartedly; most Berserk fans don't seem to realize how much time it takes to draw on the level that Miura is at.

But...
Come on...
>14 months
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>>101797480
heh, clever.
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>>101798323
It's spirals, I aint gotta explain shit.
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>>101798175
Just what the fuck man
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The BL artist who does Junjou Romantica and Sekaiichi Hatsukoi
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>>101798323
>Ito
>worst art style you have ever seen
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>>101798300
>There's no point in productivity if you need time for figuring out how to approach the story any further.
Oh look, I'm arguing with children here.
Try pulling any of that shit in real life and you'll find without a job.
Even writers are pressured to keep writing and if they go past their deadline they know what to expect.
Gigantomakhia is the result of Berserk going south due to Miura's dicking around and him being forced to explore other career paths.
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>>101798323
>Hating Junji Ito

gayer than a castrated Frenchman.
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>>101798323
>Ito
>Bad

Leave
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>>101798602
>You'll find yourself without a job*
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>>101798185
Nothing wrong with a sketchy aesthetic if you can pull it off properly.
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>>101797092
I thought the assistants draw the backgrounds most of the time
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Anyone that draws with an overused generic style that isn't even their own.

It's easy to have a good looking artstyle that isn't yours. It's hard to come up with your own style from scratch, it might look bad at first, but if the artist improves over time then there isn't a problem.

Ofcourse , I've read manga with shit art but had great stories and characters, so it doesn't matter to me. As long as the manga has something good about it.

What's very important in a manga is the flow of the panels. If it flows well, it's easy to follow and will keep you turning those pages. Some examples that come to mind are Parasyte and Berserk, which excel at this.
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>>101793924
oh god
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>>101798049
because at this time Oda still was an inexperienced mangaka
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>>101794143
holy shit
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>>101798300
>implying it hasn't happened before
What is D-Gray Man, what is Nyankoi, what was almost Deadman Wonderland.
DGM was a hell of a lot more popular than Berserk, yet the mangaka was told to go find herself another job.
Miura isn't Togashi, Miura has a 1 volume per year minimum contract, he failed to deliver on that in 2013 and now he's living with the consequences of his actions.
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>>101798781
If I remember correctly, Oda, at least according to himself, draws everything that moves and lives, so I am not sure if he even draws the buildings himself
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>>101797092
>hey look what these assistants of mine drew
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ITT: Newfriends and others with no idea of what bad manga art actually is.

Protip: It's shoujo art. Always.Some folks have it right.
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>>101797626
and that is the typical response to this image
why so upset?
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>>101798932
Too bad for him, Oda's moving art sucks dick and his character art consists of stickmen, stickmen with balloon chests and gorillas with stick legs.
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>>101798916
1 volume per year? Fuck me, so how many pages is that roughly?
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>Protip: It's shoujo art
I was about to post something like that. Everything in this style is just so awful. This picture isn't so bad, but it's all I had.
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>>101799150
not moe enough for you
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>>101798991
and this applies to pretty much every mangaka ever, your point?
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>>101799155
Around 200 or so.
He has failed to deliver a few other times in the past by a month or so, but back then he had Berserk's popularity to use as a parachute.
For the most part he just barely makes it in time, but this time he missed by over 2 months.
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Anything by Clamp, really.
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>>101798602
And I'm speaking with a retarded adult who thinks only with numbers and statistics and also thinks that constant productivity is good in an art form, even if the artist is having trouble approaching his work of art.

I'll say it again, no one wants to read a weekly train wreck that isn't worth following. This isn't some kind of fucking 9-5 office job, but you think it should be? 14 months without a chapter isn't nice, I get it. But I'd simply rather not have to drop a series because it went to shit. I'd rather wait a 2 year long hiatus till the artist figures out what to do next.

Of course, if everyone did this, it wouldn't be good, it may be an art form, but it's still an industry and needs to circulate. All the shitty mangaka can help with this circulation, and special permits come to those with big reputations like Miura, and Takehiko Inoue, who also had a 2 year hiatus for Vagabond in 2010-2012 but is sailing smoothly now.
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>>101799266
Nope, it doesn't. Murata, Inoue, Samura, Miura, Mori, etc.
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>>101799173
Bitter Virgin is Josei, Kusonoko Kei is a Josei mangaka.
Check out her other works.
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>>101799311
Wasn't the Vagabond hiatus because Inoue suffered a MAJOR burnout syndrome?
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>>101797321
Who are you quoting? I happen to love The Darkness and it has fantastic artwork.
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>>101799311
You don't understand the ramifications of contract violation, do you?
Let me spell it out for you.
It means that Berserk risks cancellation.
Don't believe me? Go take a look at the sales for the latest volumes, take a look at the revenue for the movies.
The Berserk ship is sinking, you'll never get off the boat.
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>>101799343
Yeah I know, but it was an example of how they can never seem to get arms or hands right.
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>>101799416
>>101799419
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>>101799305
But 'X' was a fantastic looking movie.
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>>101799244
>>101799416
Did we ever get a Nichibros of this?
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>>101799316
let even one of their works get as popular as One Piece and then see what happens with drawing everything alone
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>>101799477
I know what it is, but I'd like anyone to try even try to get Miura to cancel Berserk, a manga that has been running for over twenty years and has developed a huge following. It won't happen to him, it can happen to anyone else, but his name is too big.
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>>101799477
[citation needed]

The Berserk manga still sells well. The movies flopped simply because they were shit abut at least advertised the manga. I already said earlier that it is Hakusensha and Young Animal's most profitable series. There's no way that they will ever cancel it. Plus they are understanding of Miura's necessity for more time. You're either baiting or just a complete fucking idiot.
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>>101798813
THIS
The only decent post in this thread. Bless you
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>>101799595
What is dragonball?
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>>101798313
He's on hiatus. He needs it.
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>>101799657
>get Miura to cancel Berserk
The company would tell him it's cancelled, not the other way around. The manga publishers can things left and right if popularity fails, and because of beserks slow publishing the popularity just keeps on dropping.
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>>101798323
>hating Ito
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>>101799682
Exceptions prove the rule
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megatokyo

But does it really count as manga?
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>>101799661
Berserk Volume sales have more than halved since 2008, you're delusional.
Find Berserk on this list.
http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=526586&show=0
Protip: It's not there.
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>>101799833
No it doesn't
Get that putrid shit out of here,
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>>101798813
>Anyone that draws with an overused generic style that isn't even their own.
This.
I love Hiromu Arakawa's art despite it being pretty lacking a lot of the time just because she has her own artstyle
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>>101799730
And then he switches to different publisher claiming he's ready to carry on Berserk. What then? The new publisher gets a big name on their magazine and it starts selling a lot more copies. Young Animal won't make such a risk by cancelling Berserk, even if it doesn't make as much money as before, it will still sell well.
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>>101799882
>Hiromu Arakawa
>own artstyle
Nope, it's just a generic art style from a different era.
The way she draws her manly men is somewhat unique however.
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>>101799730
Young Animal is a seinen manga and porn magazine with barely any series published by it you fucking moron. The only other noteworthy series to come out of it besides Berserk is Detroit Metal City, and that ended a while ago. Berserk is only 1 of 7 ongoing series in Young Animal, so they literally CAN'T AFFORD to cancel Berserk when the other 6 works that they publish are ones that nobody gives a shit about. Don't believe me? See for yourself:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Young_Animal

Do I have to fucking spoonfeed this to you?
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>>101799976
He can't. The publisher has the copyright over the manga as much as the author does.
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>>101799976
Not sure how that would work with licenses and so on, Miura would at the very least lose all his assistants.
Besides there aren't many publishers big enough to carry Berserk, or pay Miura's fees.
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>>101798813
>>101799882
Other than her cute SD style and hilarious reaction shots I like Nakamura Shungiku's style exactly because of these reasons. Yeah, even with one or two wonky panels /a/ loves to repost.
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>>101800020
There are other more reliable sources of income you know.
More porn for one is a good start.
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>>101799595
Sure, sure, you cocksucker. For what they do, the ones I named are pretty damn popular
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>>101800169
You must be trolling. Nakamurashit is bottom of the barrel.
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>>101799835
Are you honestly comparing the sales of a seinen manga to the sales of shonen manga? Christ you're retarded. It's common knowledge that seinen manga doesn't sell nearly as much as shonen or shoujo manga. Berserk is among the most successful SEINEN manga. Of course it's not gonna sell nearly as much as shonen or shoujo.
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>>101800020
>Berserk is the only manga they carry that I've read
>this means everything else is shit nobody cares about
Berserk-fags at full force, ladies and gentlemen.
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>>101799244
Childhood.
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>>101800218
she's shit even for yaoi standars
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>>101800184
That's bullshit. The profitability of porn magazines has gone to shit since it's so easy to find porn for free on the internet.
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>>101800129
Miura hates assistants anyway.
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>>101800218
>>101800282
Someday you'll be cured of autism, /a/.
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>>101800287
What is Gantz, what is JJBA, what is fucking Tenjou Tenge?
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>>101800169
Landwhale please, get some taste in BL artists.
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>>101800218
He was making a point, Nakamura art is unique ( very recognizable) but still shit.
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>>101800314
Go ahead, name a bigger manga on that list than Berserk. Facts don't lie.
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>>101800314
So are you implying that any of those other 6 series are as big as Berserk? You're retarded.
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>>101800406
>>101800169
Is that a fucking joke?
After all these years of drawing and yet in every new stuff she releases half the pages have completely fucked up anatomy. And the fucking sameface, goddamnit it makes me angry.
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>>101800169
No.
Hideyoshico is a good example of a BL artist with a unique and also good art style.
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>>101800489
>>101800540
I did nothing of the sort, I just called you out on your rampant faggotry by calling everything else "shit nobody cares about".
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>>101800489
>>101800540
Not him, but Futari Ecchi is pretty fucking big in Japan.
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>>101800424
Two of those are shit that barely classify as seinen, JJBA has been running for almost 30 years and look at Jojolion's sales, it's not a lot compared to shounen manga sales.
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>>101800436
>get some taste
>posts some random generic style

Kuramada's style used to bother me a lot more when I was younger, weird.
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>>101800424
Gantz and Tenjou Tenge, hell Berserk too are rare exceptions as they sell incredibly well. JoJo used to be a shonen manga for a long time until Steel Ball Run so it already had years worth of support from longtime fans who grew up with it.
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>>101800672
Tenjou Tenge had 200k opening week sales and averaged at more that Berserk.
Gantz was a monster in its own right.
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>>101800634
Meh, it's pretty, but her works do nothing for me.
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>>101800646
You seem a little butthurt and have some angsty hate against Berserk fans, don't let that blind you from what's true and what isn't. I don't care if you don't like Beserk fans, objectively speaking, Berserk is the biggest manga there, in terms of total volume sales overall.
>>101800650
23 million copies. Last time I checked, Berserk was at 30 million total copies in circulation by around volume 35.
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>>101800020
Hey, I read Shi ni Itaru Yamai. It was pretty good.
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>>101794143
I agree. Attack on Titan has god-awful art. It has improved a bit, though.
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>>101800020
>nobody cares about Chica Umino

Then why does her manga sale more than Berserk?

>*3. 142,447 *,441,592 3 Gatsu no Lion Vol.9
> *7, *99,681 *,246,090 Berserk Vol.37
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>>101800602
>/a/ getting mad at sameface
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>>101800893
wrong quote?
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>>101795305
>what is artistic direction
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>>101800957
I think he might be calling them titans. I'm not sure.
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>>101799833
>Gallagher
>rodney caston
>Count as manga

Those are some obscure nip names there anon.
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>>101795305
>tumblr nose
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>>101800602
The other half looks good enough for me to keep reading.
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>>101800841
Wasn't saying it was bigger than Berserk, but that magazine had some good/popular stuff in it.
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>>101800991
>never heard of Garaguheru and Roduni Kazuton
Their ancestors served as the Oda family's err towelboys.
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>>101793763
Reliably bad: One Piece

Lazy Fuck: HXH

Deformity Tier: Random low budget Shoujo
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>>101800020
Holy fuck, Ai-Ren as well.
That magazine had some good shit. This has to be one of my favourite manga.
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>>101800957
>>101800984
The resemblance is uncanny.
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Molester Man had some of the worst art I've ever seen in a manga, granted it is fanwork. Yet I enjoyed reading it a lot.

Shoujo mangaka seem to be the biggest criminals though. There are a quite a few good ones, but I can't stand the majority of them and their styles.
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>>101794143
The art inside is just as bad as the cover.
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>>101801256
>Molester Man
>fanwork
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>>101800698
He always draws the same angle. The same fucking angle.

How can you make a battle manga if you can't draw any other angle of a fucking face?
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>>101801294
That thumb could crush his skull alone.
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>>101801333
Or the other guy is a midget. I can't remember.
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>>101798452
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>>101800469
I am going to say a blasphemy for /a/ but any manga style isn't shit if people enjoy it.
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>>101801325
It was a doujin, with a real life story to tell. Doujins are still fanwork.
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>>101801333
Speaking of crushing skulls with giant hands.
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>>101801331
Not only he made a battle manga, he made he really fucking neat battle manga.
Which proves >>101798813 is the only sensible person here.
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>>101793763
Hunter x Hunter

how this got popular is beyond my horizon
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>>101801412
>but any manga style isn't shit if people enjoy it.
Faggotry
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>>101801581
It has its moments.
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>>101801581
Well, it's a good story. It just has bad art.

It's the only example I can think of where the anime has better art than the manga.
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>all these posts hating and generalizing shoujo with hardly any examples
I thought /a/ had manga readers who weren't plebs, what happened?
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>>101801646
He can do it better when he tries
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>>101801601
>Top
What Japs wants to look like

>Bottom
What Japs look like
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>>101801789
Wan piss happened
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>>101801789
Despite what it thinks, /a/ isn't a little girl, so shoujo does not interest it.
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All these posts and not a single mention of Bleach?
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>>101801256
MM was mediocre for the first part, art-wise, but some of the later scenes were really good.. YOKO's manga are pretty good generally.
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>>101800469
That's not really the point that was made >>101800169 and >>101798813.
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>>101801911
Lack of art isn't same as worst art
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>>101800469
That's not really the point that was made reading >>101800169 and >>101798813.
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>>101793894
/co/ doesn't defend this. I mean they're pretty autistic but even they don't defend this shit.
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>>101801911
>Kubo
>Art
lel
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Hayate.
I love it, but dear god the art sucks.
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ITT: successful stuff with cherrypicked pictures that /a/ doesn't like. Let me contribute.
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>>101802023
They defend JRjr' shitty art so I wouldn't be surprised if they did for whatever person drew that.
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>>101802085
>lel
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If Kubo knows how to make photorealistic backgrounds then why the hell does he almost never make them?
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>>101802150
then wwwwww to calm your autism
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>>101793894
>not manga
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>>101802165
Because he hate backgrounds, i bet that those are made by some assistant
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>>101793989
>sameface

nearly every manga has that problem.

the only way they seem to distinguish characters from one another is by altering their hair style/palette
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>>101802119
>they defend JRjr
No they don't. Literally every time I see someone mention him they're shit talking him. The only time I've seen someone defend stylized garbage on there was Tang En Huat.
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>>101798993
>>101799173
Go read Taiyou no ie and tell me it's ugly, just to name one.
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>>101802275
No, those are genuine Bleach backgrounds, first seen during the Agent of the Shinigami arc, back when Bleach was a newcomer to the WSJ roster and had no fame.
Ie. back when Kubo had to work for a living.
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>>101802165
It must be one of his talented assistants
In such a popular series there is no way he's working alone.
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>>101802303
>Literally every time I see someone mention him they're shit talking him.
Yeah, no. Back when World War Hulk was a thing I saw nothing but praises for him getting the cover and insert art. Every time I voiced my displeasure about it as his only good work was in the 90's I was written off as a troll or someone that couldn't comprehend that different artists have different styles.

Although yeah, over the years opinions do change and I haven't touched that board in about 3 of them.
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Any yaoi manga
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>>101795565
At least the dude actually got better at drawing.
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>>101801256
>MM
>Worst
Lazy art isn't bad art. Moelster man did an incredible job with character characterization and facial expressions, for one.
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>>101802469
Assistants do menial tasks like inking and shading, they don't do everything ever and unless you notice a gigantic increase in art quality then it isn't solely the assistants work.
Kubo is one of few mangaka who has actually regressed in art quality.
Though character art has improved, backgrounds and anatomy have suffered.
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>>101796558
Don't fuck with Tezuka, especially Ayako ;_;
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>>101802494
Well, all of his faces are hideous, but I rather like his spiderman(when he's in-costume, naturally)
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>>101802779
How is it even possible to regress?
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>>101802725

This has to be shooped
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>>101802821
I think that was done on purpose, but I'm not sure, I just remember one of these often reposted ones is on purpose to look that bad.
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first few chapters of love lab were fucking terrible

but then he suddenly got good. maybe sold enough copies for lessons or something
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>>101802165
Gotta get rid of the backgrounds so he can spend more time on tweeter.
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>>101800911
Shaft isn't better than Kyoani: Let's try to turn everything edgy and from time to time a random character has to do a 180° turn with the head.
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>>101802802
Easy, you spend more time lazing about and neglect your work.
All in all he hasn't regressed, he just works less and parties more.
Pic related, quick sketch with an autograph for a fan.
And people complain about Miura?
At least he's not holding out on you.
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>>101802165
Take a look at Naruto. Backgrounds everywhere. The action is a clusterfuck of lines crossing and determined expressions.

By removing unnecessary elements from the panels, Kubo directs your attention where it is supposed to go. You always eye the action in Bleach. It's impossible to miss. Naruto not so much.

It's incredibly basic, really. One of the basics of manga art is that barebone drawings are often acceptable. Another example of what I mean: Anime characters missing an eye or two when looking down with a dark expression or some shit.

No backgrounds = Easy to follow, fewer screwups, no confusion.
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>>101802911
U merlin?
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I hate to say it, I'm a really huge Evafag, and although most of the scenes and animation in the movie were really nice.

>3.0' Wunder Flying scene

Embarrassing. I was fucking embarrassed. That's how fucking bad it was. I'm not talking about 3.33, talking about the version that showed in theaters, 3.0.

>dat unfinished extremely dull plastic looking, n64 looking cgi

Horrific. Just horrible.
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>>101803149
In the same vein.
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I've yet to see any legit terrible art in this thread, and I've seen a great deal of shitty manga art in my days.
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>>101803072
This is also very common in shoujo, with the theory that once the readers know where the scene is happening there is no need to draw the background.

Take this for example, we know where this is happening in the 3rd frame, the only background you need is the stairs to know the woman is moving.
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>>101803206
I'll admit that I haven't read any of the serious arcs in Gintama, but the usual stuff is garbage compared to the anime.
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>>101803274
Oh really? Go on and show us then. I'm sure we can say the same thing about your suggestions.
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I mustn't be autistic enough for /a/ since when I come to like I a style its supposed flaws do not really bother me anymore, so I don't generally think to it as shit.
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>>101800911
That's not even sameface. The eyes are in the sae style, maybe, but I could instantly differentiate most of those characters even just given the shape of their facial features.
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>>101803329
Another example.
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>>101802711
>>101795977
>got better
>it still looks like shit
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>>101802802
>Though character art has improved
Pffftttttttt
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>>101802802
>Assistants do menial tasks like inking and shading, they don't do everything ever and unless you notice a gigantic increase in art quality then it isn't solely the assistants work.
This is bullshit. In a plethora of popular manga there are listings for assistants who handle backgrounds and scenery such as plants and architecture. In Fairy Tail, Naruto and Bleach there are assistants with tasks such as these.

>Though character art has improved
This is a joke right? The character art in Bleach in the beginning was great, each character had unique features and were varied right down to the eye placements (Ichigo had a slant eyeline and his pupils were dilated like most of the males so you can tell them a part) now almost every fucking character looks the same and as of the recent arcs his character designs has gotta quite lazy with the Quincies.
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>>101803694
>>101803879
Why you quote the wrong post? are you retarded?
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>>101799668
I see that the hands are misproportioned, but it doesn't bother me and his face is attractive, the pose dynamic.The fact that everything about him is oddly proportioned actually helps, creates a balance that makes a style. If everything were perfectly drawn but some part were still misproportioned, even by far less than in that picture, it would bother people much more.
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Her art is a complete fucking mess.
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>>101802983
>Hidamari Sketch
>edgy
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>>101793924
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>>101803072
>By removing unnecessary elements from the panels, Kubo directs your attention where it is supposed to go. You always eye the action in Bleach. It's impossible to miss. Naruto not so much.
This is what Bleachfags actually believe...
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>>101804047
it's fine
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The manga of Battle Royal and proto-Haruhi were pretty bad. I haven't seen anything that could top them so far.
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>>101803879
>backgrounds and scenery such as plants and architecture. In Fairy Tail, Naruto and Bleach t
>backgrounds
>Bleach
TOP KEK
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>>101804160
And how is that a lie?
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>>101793763
Attack on Titan is the manga with the worst art I can think of which has been adapted.
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>>101804198
A TITAN!?
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>>101803072
What makes the battle a "clusterfuck" is the way how the paneling goes not because of the backgrounds. One Piece uses it's terrains to enhance the battles and make them more exciting they're only hard to follow if you''re a complete retard. Having no backgorunds doesn't intensify the battles in Bleach nor make them better in fact they're fucking boring since there's no actual sign of work being done with it, the latest chapter was nothing but still images and one swipe, it's like what happens if someone from Deviantart decided to make a comic but forgot about the panels to make the action actually flow.
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First few chapters of this.
You'd think that the story of an incest couple with espers, fightan and said incest couple's love child being stuck right in the middle of it would sort of be hard to fuck up, but apparently it wasn't.
Something about the artstyle in the original was really, really grating.
There is rerelease with better art though.
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>>101804333
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>>101804198
>Battle Royale
You mean Blitz?
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>>101794709
Holy shit. Those legs could go on for meters
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>>101804218
Because many manga can have great battles with backgrounds/terrains. Bleach despite having no backgrounds in it's fights are terrible.
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>>101804198
Battle Royal is the ugliest fucking thing I've ever laid eyes on
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>>101795192
>arguing about opinions when this entire thread is opinons
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>>101803072
The clusterfuck comes from the fact that every battle scene is littered with the same 'shards of earth exploding upwards'-type debris making it impossible to figure out where anyone is in regards to each other based on the terrain alone.
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>>101803331
The character designs are usually interesting, but yeah overall it's pretty mediocre.
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Synn is another mangaka who has regressed through the years. The girls aren't even attractive anymore.
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>>101803072
This battle was more engaging than anything Bleach has done in the past 7 years.
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>>101803879
>This is a joke right?
No not really, the style has improved and Kubo's confidence in his own style really shows.
All you have to say is "b-but my expressiveness" and "UNIQUE".
Bleach's art is still unique, as most WSJ manga it has clearly distinguishable art and very emotive characters.
Sadly it's for the most part Ichigo that gets all the expressions.
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wow what a hot habbiaitait
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>>101804198
>Battle Royal
Don't remind me. I tried to read that once.

Big fucking shame and all. Could have been great.
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>>101804588
They have been in the same crater for well over a year now.
It makes anything impossible to figure out.
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>>101804769
>>101804822
Fuck you guys, I loved BR.
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>>101804762
>Bleach's art is still unique

The drop in popularity seem to have made the fanbase delude themselves
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Everything Koge-Donbo has ever made.
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>>101804762
Is that suppose to look good?
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>>101804885
I wanted to enjoy it. I really did - I loved the book, but since the art is basically all I'm there for and I couldn't stand it there was no point.

>>101804899
>filename
Isn't this otome?
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>>101804899
They can shoot guns like that if they want to you patriarchal cis-scum!
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>>101804907
I can throw around insults too.
>KlK
Cartoonshit right?
>>101804967
supposed*
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>>101804762
>the style has improved and Kubo's confidence in his own style really shows.

Hey guys remember when Ichigo actually looked like a fucking badass and not a generic bishounen? Hey remember when Rukia didn't look like a female version of Hitsugaya?
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>>101804508
We're not talking if a battle is great or terrible, we're talking that battle in bleach are easy to follow
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>>101804885
You are not allowed to enjoy things that /a/ doesn't like. Now go commit sudoku in shame.
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>>101804999
Yeah, sure, if they want to miss. I've done it for teh lulz, but you don't hit shit
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>>101805055
>legitimately liking the original art style more
Well I'll be, it's a faggot!
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>>101804999
Yeah, I'm all for letting women teach other women to fire automatic firearms as you would a rifle.
Let them poke their eyes out, blind bitches can't make the world a worse place.
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>>101804885
The novel was great, but the manga art is as bad as it gets.
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Speaking of artists that have improved, fucking Oshimi Shuzo.
I love this guy's art now, but when I first started reading him, it was pretty shitty.
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>>101805061
>we're talking that battle in bleach are easy to follow
I'm not sure how some of you actually believe battles are hard to follow unless you're retarded.
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>>101805055
I really do miss his original style. The characters had more, I dunno, character.
Sure they look nicer and sexier now, but they are lacking in personality.

Everything just looks coooool now.
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>>101802989
I hate Kubo's current art, but that's actually really good for a quick sketch for a fan - have you ever seen Sadamoto's autographed's sketches?

Not that I blame artists for not doing impressive sketches for fans, usually they have to do tons of these one after another...
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>>101804996
Full version.
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>>101805128
>liking the current art

Well I'll be, it's a faggot
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>>101805247
>disliking fun
Well I'll blah blah bloo
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Naruto character art is also shittier now than in the beggining
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SAO manga
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>>101804996
>>101805069
>>101805140
I liked the art. The emphasis on the lips was a bit offputting though.
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>>101805316
It was shit in the beginning too.
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>>101799800
no, goddammit. That is a lazy way of brushing off the fact that you are wrong. RULES don't have EXCEPTIONS. Unless they are shitty, false rules.
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>>101805181
Yes some of they are hard, and that guy gave us a great example, Naruto
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>>101805358
It was sort of OK during the midway point though.
Why did it go to absolute shit after the timeskip?
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>>101805371
Gaara uses his sand to save Naruto and the Shukaku got sucked in. OH MAN THAT WAS SO HARD TO MAKE OUT!
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>>101805218
I can't stop laughing at that last panel
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>>101794366
>id the artist just get tired of drawing and said fuck it?

This is Togashi we're talking about, of course he did.
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>>101805408
He got accustomed to one particular style that made it easier to draw and make deadlines. Happens to all mangaka.
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>>101800424
TT was great, then it got rushed and kinda fell apart at the end.

Oh! Great art is awesome.
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>>101805218
It's hard being pretty.
Still though, that's some really lazy art.
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>>101805431
Yeah, great example isnt it?
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>>101794090
This
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>>101805343
I just didn't like how the characters were drawn as a whole. Everything was off.
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>>101805512
I don't think anyone has ever complained about the art on TT, it was great from early to until the very end.
Hell it actually by leaps and bounds, seen when Nagi commands the undead in a spread.
TT was used as an example of a seinen that outsold Berserk at the time.
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>>101805617
improved by leaps and bounds*
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>>101805512
>TT was great
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>>101805561
I dunno, I thought their bodies and clothing were fine.
I have a theory about the faces though. Everyone was made to look ugly just to make Kiriyama look better.
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>>101805518
No? If he was able to make out what was happening then there's nothing particualrly wrong with it. You;re just retarded.
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>>101803072
I understand what you're saying, but there are better ways to achieve the desired effect.

For example, using white to create negative space around the focus of a panel so that the eye is drawn towards the characters and the action. In the bottom left it's done subtly so as not to distract the reader, in the top panel it's done while simultaneously showing off a character's strength.
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>>101805181
Naruto is just a bad example. You want a shounen manga with hard to make out battles? Fucking Air Gear.
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>>101805763
>strength

Whoops, I meant movement. The action lines imply movement.
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Semi-related: one of the first manga I tried reading was Trigun, and I could hardly tell what was happening in any action scenes.

Is it just me not being used to manga, or was Trigun actually sort of bad in that aspect?
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almost all shojo manga have terrible art.
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>>101805725
You're right, it's been a while. I forgot there were some normal looking characters. Shuya and Noriko were all right as well but their designs always felt weird - not badly drawn, just off somehow.

I might try it again and just skim past the ugly people.
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>>101805966
The art in Trigun wasn't a strong point, the mangaka was inspired by the guy who did Hellboy
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>>101805986
Basically main characters = sexy, side characters = ugly.
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>>101798993
Rude
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>>101805799
>battles

it's a real shame that the author feels that he needs to include those
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>>101805986
Reminds me Gantz for some reason
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>>101806019
Mignola's not bad, his style's sort of degraded over the years but back when Trigun started in the late 90s he was still pretty good.
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>>101806165
That guy was great. He would have gone far if he didn't target Kiryama for anal.
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>>101802344
>Exceptions to generalizations

Shojo are drawn like shit because the mangaka are usually first timers who have no experience drawing, and they haven't changed from their old highschool drawing style.
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>>101805725
To be honest, I like this artist's work in Black Joke
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what is the best art you have ever seen in a manga?
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>>101806298
>He would have gone far if he didn't target Kiryama for anal.
He had his priorities right.
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>>101806503
ur mom
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>>101806503
Zetman, easily.
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>>101806503
That image of a group of guys in a mountain
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>>101806503
Probably not the best but Three Kingdoms has great art.

I'm found of the Over Bleed art as well.

>>101806674
Kokou no Hito?
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>>101804645
It looks like her right wrist is backwards.
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To put a positive spin on this thread, what series has featured the most notable improvement in art?
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>>101806765
>I'm found
I'm fond even.
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>>101805512

I loved his early Air Gear art, the later stuff for me got weird and it felt like all his characters hanged for the worst
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>>101806674
Kokou no Hito it's called.
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>>101806863
Yes,that one
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>>101807018
Shit that's nice.
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>>101806503
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>>101807220
It's pretty good.
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>>101806503
Innocent
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>>101807445
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>>101807500
I thought that was a sharkman from the thumbnail
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I'm trying to think of indefensibly bad art, but it's kind of difficult. Some mangaka looked pretty goddamn rough when they first started, like Fukumoto, but I kind of like it regardless.

Isayama of Attack on Titan is remarkably bad at body geometry for someone as successful as he is, but I think his designs are solid. He'll likely improve with time and his editors will force him to transition to a more standard clean and lifeless art style.

The bizarre Hunter × Hunter draft chapters might count, but I think Togashi might be dying of cancer.
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>>101801417
Doujin of what?
???
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>>101807671
I love SnK's titans but everything else is incredibly shitty for how popular it is.
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>>101799188
Americans will never understand how amazing Captain Tsubasa is
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>>101807757
I like seeing different faces. Besides Generic Protagonist #65536, everyone else looks interesting compared with what we're used to seeing.

Mikasa is pretty standard too, I suppose, but you don't talk shit about Mikasa.
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>>101807445
>>101807500
>Innocent is a weekly manga
How does he do it? Tons of assistants? Magical hands?
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>>101808041
Berserk was weekly too at one point.
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>>101806503
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>>101808079
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>>101807671
Isayama can't match a character's eyes to their mouth/vice versa. You can't even nail down with the fuck they're trying to emote half the time.
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>>101808079
8 years on that fucking boat.
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>>101808079
So was Vinland Saga. Then it switched to monthly, giving Yukimura the chance to put more details in his art.
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>>101808190
It's always fun trying to figure out which character is which since a fair few look the same, especially early one.
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>>101807757
It's not even that bad anymore. The only really bad thing remaining is Isayama's lack of human anatomy knowledge. And the rough art can disturb some people, but I like it. He changed a lot since the first chapter, and there is still a lot to do.
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HxH
SnK
JoJo

I love them all, but fuck, the art is ugly.
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>>101806503
Style, huh? Or just overall art.
I'm fairly positive nobody compares with Miura's art scenery-wise. At very least, nobody drew AS MANY gorgeous backgrounds as he did. There are mangaka that drew couple/a bit more than a couple on the same level and very rarely even better than Miura, but absolutely not as consistent as he did/does.

So there's that. On the other side, I don't like the art style in Berserk. I rather Urasawa's faces or Boichi's stuff and even Mizukami's
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>>101808543
>JoJo
For me it depends which part, his art has change quite a bit over the years.
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SnK and wan piss
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>>101808451
He'll have a lot of pressure on him now to conform to the expectations of the migrating anime fans.
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>>101802779
>Assistants do menial tasks like inking and shading
That's not true
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>>101808451

I think the problem is that he is trying to mimic a realistic-sort of art which he doesn't have the talent for

He should have stuck with a more simple style
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>>101808737
As long as he keeps drawing creepy titans I will be fine.
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>>101808721
I don't like the art in any part, but for different reasons, early jojo was just plain bad and full of quality, now it's just my personal opinion, the character design and the costumes are too exaggerated, the scenes can get very messy and the shading is too heavy. The background art is the only part I like.
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>>101806503

Anything by Irie Aki
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>>101804047
It's average
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>>101809041
Why can't he always draw like this? This look real good, but the most part of the manga look like 10 years old doodles.
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>>101809041
The funny thing is that Isayama's screwy body geometry probably helps him make more disconcerting titans.

I wouldn't be surprised if that's where his inspiration came from. As a kid, sketching at his desk. Tried drawing a character in the foreground, accidentally drew a creepy-as-fuck giant.
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Out of the mango I've actually read I'd have to say some parts of Hunter X Hunter. I love the series, it's a solid 9/10, but sometimes the art is just so shit. Chicken scratch. Most of the series looks good, just when whatshisname is feeling lazy he scribbles a few lines and releases the chapter.
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>>101809144
>now it's just my personal opinion
That's far enough. I can understand why people wouldn't like the designs and such, it's a matter of taste.
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>>101806503
I've always been partial to Yokohama Kaidashi Kikou. It's not perfect, but as it goes on it becomes better and better. Ashinano's become a true master at scenery and calming, non-ironic healing-type stories.

His characters became simpler over time, but I don't think that's a bad thing.

>>101808451
>>101809041
>>101809309
Strangely, I feel that Isayama's art really complements the feel of Shingeki, for the most part. It's a grim series (for shonen, anyway), so having rough art helps, particularly for the titans.
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>>101809259
To be honest the difference of quality between an average page and a double spread involving titans is big. He always put more effort in those.
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>>101809543
The backgrounds always looks gorgeous in that manga
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>>101807974
I could deal with his human characters if you could actually tell them apart. It's not even sameface - characters will look different in every page.

>>101808451
The inconsistency with faces kills me.
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>>101801333
>Thumb crush
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>>101808190
>You can't even nail down with the fuck they're trying to emote half the time
This is the biggest problem i have with snk art
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>>101806503
If it comes to a good balance between characters and background, Kenji Tsurata really strikes a chord with me. His work on Memories of Emanon feels very nostalgic, in a way, like something that you'll have difficulty forgetting, appropriately.
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Good story and fluid animation, but the art style is shit.
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>>101796262
>>101796513
Aren't you doing exactly what that guy said though?
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You know what's bad about SnK art? It's not the lack of detail or "scribbles". I don't care about that.

Facial expressions. Go to the scene in the latest chapter where some older women is with Crista when she was younger and tries to show grief. Isayama overuses this expression way too much for way too many situations. It's like he has a set of facial expressions in his head that he can use, and cannot use anything outside it.
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>>101810671
That's just your opinion. The art style is different from the norm. In fact, it looks like a 60s anime.
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>>101810752
Thanks for that pointless 5-hour late input, we appreciate your concern, pissfag
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>>101810820
Maybe he's autistic.
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>>101802469
If you look at videos of the rate and quality kubo can draw, I would be willing to bet a lot of money he could EASILY finish a single chapter in 1 day; 2 days at most.
By himself.
He doesn't need an assistant.
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>>101807974
>everyone else looks interesting compared with what we're used to seeing.
There was a time in which I could not tell Jean and Reiner apart.
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>>101810820
I always thought he was great at facial expressions, as opposed to his anatomy.
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>>101810820
Teppu has the same problem
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>>101808451
>>101807974
>>101809041
>>101809309
>>101809543
>>101809602
>Titan apologists

Worse than HxH and Bleach fags.
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>>101811319
Imo he's bad at them because you can never tell who anyone is without context and hair colors.
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>>101811319
Is he suppose to be smiling?
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>>101811535
More like an angry smile. So, yes.
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>>101811319
>serious/expressionless face
>oh shit/sweaty face
>final destination
The expressions on the titans are cool thou.
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So who is better in terms of art Miura or Araki?
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>>101811710
Miurs. Araki is actually a shitty artist who got better as he went on, Miura is a good artist who got better as he went on.
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>>101810820
>tries to show grief
I agree, it was terrible
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>>101811319
Yeah, his expressions and the titan art are superior.
He's getting overall better with the anatomy too, but he still has a long way to go.
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>>101812177
I don't read SnK, what's supposed to be wrong with it?
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>>101812177
I seriously have no idea what's going on in the 5ft panel.
Did she rip off Christa's head, is she crying or laughing?
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>>101812427
Not him, but half the time you have no idea what emotions the characters are trying to express.
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>>101812482
>Did she rip off Christa's head
Can't unsee.
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>>101812177
that head rip-off panel could easily be a laughing_girls.jpg image.
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>>101812177
I like how that girl on the top left was so surprised that saliva fell off her mouth. I don't really see the problem with that page, but I don't know the context, so I can't say.
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>>101812532
I see.
From the way I see the page, it looks like the loli is genuinely happy, while the girl is sad, but smiles anyway.

How close did I fall?
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>>101812803
I don't know because I can't fucking tell.
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>>101812708
That's the Shingeki dichotomy, people are either perfectly cool and collected or loosing their shit with sweat and spit everywhere.
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>>101812803
That's right
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>>101813043
This, the facial expressions have no subtlety whatsoever
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>>101806503

My dick will never be the same
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>>101813304
None of us will ever be the same after this ride.
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>>101813304
vice prez is fucking gross
>>101813577
hana is sex incarnate
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>>101814047
Soon.
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>>101813304
>>101813577
Is this manga an harem?
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>>101814171
It's not really the focus, but there are harem elements.
It's more a manly man bonding humour manga, with lots of plot and backstory.
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>>101814163
Oh fuck, you managed to find out about it.
Goddamn I really want that, I need to get a job.
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>>101814365
Picked up then , thanks for the info



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