I GOTTA FIND OUT WHO KILLED MY DAD!
Is KlK Imiashi's attempt to rebuild Re: Cutie Honey? I mean really, the amount of stuff that's just been lifted wholesale from that series and retrofitted into a school setting is a bit surprising; for example splitting the optimistic aspect of Honey's personality into Mako, and leaving Ryūko with a cynical nature, but with basically the same character arcs.
There's more parallels to be drawn, but is trigger's first series really just going to be a giant love letter to Go Nagai, with a bit of their own tinkering added to it?
If too slowpoke, re: cutie honey/KlK/go Nagai thread I guess.
Imaishi is just a worthless copycat, more news at eleven.
>Ryūko with a cynical nature
Two be fair, he's copying the episode he directed, which was an adaption of pre-existing material.
Everything else could just be considered "homages with a twist"
Are you going to try and tell me she's an optimist?
You know anon, after a certain point 'paying homages' becomes outright plagiarism.
Of course she is. She is full of life, never give up. If she was pessimistic she wouldn't even have started by wanting to avenge her Dad, especially facing a whole school and a rich, powerful dictator like Satsuki.
OP confirmed for retard or didn't actually watched the OVA. Her father's death is barely touched upon after the first episode and it doesn't play a significant role in the OVAs which is mainly focused on Honey trying to get it on with Natsuki unless you're trying to imply that Honey invent this tired trope. The characters are also nothing alike, Honey is more of a ditz in Re; while Mako is just crazy not sure where you pulled the Ryuuko comparison from (probably your ass).
Funny that I saw that episode and nothing seemed related, then.
With KlK and Re: Cutie Honey? Sure, I'll be playing "R:CH reference bingo" from here out in, it's pretty fucking blatant. I'd think that his other series would require a few too many caveats to make a generalisation for them as well. Except for LWA I guess, that can pretty much be summed up as "Cute Japanese School girls perform a production of Harry Potter", even if he wasn't the director there.
Plus, at the same time, whilst he didn't direct it, Inferno Cop was that out there to give the studio, and by extension him, a little breathing room.
you think imaishi attempted to do ANYTHING with this?
i think i took more effort in taking a shit this morning.
You do realize that the dead father trope had been done to death right?
Kill la Kill is prequel to Dead Leaves
What about that entire confrontation with the shade-clone of her father, the butler? Nothing to do with her fathers murder?
The comparison between honey and Ryūko lies in their position as main characters of their prospective series, along with their arcs, Matoi dealing with Senketsu, Honey dealing with Na-chan; they come at it from the opposite directions, but the parallel is there.
So at what point did /a/ start to hate Imaishi with such venom?
He's one of my fav's.
If it ends in tragedy, I could totally see that happening.
isn't it obvious?
since KLK of course.
Of course it has, but it's the similarities between the two.
Scientist father, scientist father
Magical clothing, magical clothing
Not to mention that there could even be further similarities as KlK continues.
>What about that entire confrontation with the shade-clone of her father, the butler?
You mean the shit in the last episode that once again gets pushed aside for more lesbian antics?
>The comparison between honey and Ryūko lies in their position as main characters of their prospective series, along with their arcs, Matoi dealing with Senketsu, Honey dealing with Na-chan; they come at it from the opposite directions, but the parallel is there.
It's kinda obvious that you're just talking out your ass at this point.
/a/ is tsuntsun with him since klk.
Imaishi is a mere key animator, do you really think it is him who decides of the scenario and characterization?
I watched this entire thing one night and I don't remember anything but the fact that I enjoyed it for being hilariously fun.
Should I rewatch?
>What about that entire confrontation with the shade-clone of her father, the butler? Nothing to do with her fathers murder?
A small scene that serves very little purpose and doesn't define her development through the OVA or the actual plot? You're really grasping for straws with this.
>The comparison between honey and Ryūko lies in their position as main characters of their prospective series, along with their arcs, Matoi dealing with Senketsu, Honey dealing with Na-chan
Ryuuko's relationship with Senketsu is more of a companionship of the two of them being one and the whole while Honey's relationship with Na-chan is borderline gay. How are these fucking comparable?
Well first of all Honey is an android and she can change into multiple different outfits. Ryuuko just has Senketsu who is a living uniform that's bonded to her.
no you retard, he is the director of KLK. which means he is responsible for it and that it is his vision.
You could apply this method of thinking to almost every shonen with dragon ball as well.
Whoopdie fuggin doo, OP.
He was talking about Re: Cutey Honey which was directed by Anno not Imaishi
Re Honey was mainly Anno's take on CH. Before the OVAs, Honey wasn't ditz and she liked to troll her enemies.
Jesus, it should be obvious that you can't notice anything that isn't served to you on a platter, preferably by two girls making out.
Matoi has to come to terms with the clothing her father created for her, over coming her own inability to reach out and create friendships, and overcoming her anger and rage. It's implied mako and Senketsu are the first real friends she's ever made up to this point. On too of that she has to get over the embarrassment and shame Senketsu forces upon her, which she does so she can continue on her quest to find out who killed her dad! Currently she's trying to find a way to keep fighting whilst not becoming a berserker again.
Honey's the opposite, she's completely at ease with her clothing, in fact it's her main schtick, plus she constantly reaches out for friendship. Her issues lie in her own self esteem and existential issues as a cyborg, coming to terms with herself and pretty much forcing Na-chan to come to terms with her as well and accept her friendship.
You should watch the live action movie
Yeah, it's a lot of fun, I went through it in one go too.
The clothes in RE: aren't fucking characters you retard
Is reading comprehension a difficult task for you anon? Where does it say her clothes are characters?
>Honey's the opposite, she's completely at ease with her clothing,
This doesn't even make sense so I have no idea what you're talking about
Is it worth watching 1970's version or should I just go straight for Re: Cutey Honey?
Her clothing disappears if she gets hungry. Most people would be a little stressed if a snack was the difference between them getting home and becoming a public nuisance.
Just watch Re; and if you liked it watch New Cutey Honey. The 70s TV series isn't as fun if you watch it straight much like 70's Mazinger.
You should go read Kekko Kamen. It's another one by Go Nagai about academy where evil director and teachers torture girls, most often the comic relief dumb girl, and naked warrior of justice bails them out.
Re;, New, and The Live are the only Honey incarnations worth watching the original Toei anime is as shitty as their Mazinger Z anime, Flash is magical girl shit and The movie is awful.
Why is Go Nagai so based?
It's a homoage to lot of different series. just relax, let the series open you up and accept it as it penetrates you till completion.
Shit taste confirmed
Kekko Kamen is a realistic portrayal of the Japanese educational system but with more tits
I always thought Kill la Kill reminded me a bit of Cutie Honey. Just a bit, though. Though I liked Re: Cutie Honey much more than Kill la Kill, I still enjoy Kill la Kill to a degree, but Re: Cutie Honey was so of the most enjoyable things I have ever seen, I loved every minute of it. It was fun, and it didn't try to be anything but that.
This. The manga is great too
Toei Honey is shit. Get over it
It really is a ton of fun, KlK can't seem to sort it's tone out.
Is there anything by Nagai /not/ worth having a flick through?
>directed by Anno
But that's the movie
Didn't Go Nagai make a Stan Lee esc cameo in the honey movie? Or am I not remembering something properly?
Shit taste confirmed
Both the movie and the anime.
Anno was as much as a director on Re as Shinbo is on whatever he puts his name on these days.
Nothing but marketing. Look at the episode directors to see who actually directed it.
First half: Cutie Honey retake
Second half: Devilman retake
Ragyo : Life Fibers = Satan : Demons
>I didn't read the manga and i talk things out of my ass
Every Cutie Honey is different but Honey was never as smart as you make it seem like she was
>dat Koji and Boss
>Kill la Kill season 2 came out
>is Imaishi's Violence Jack
I want to believe.
I doubt there's be a second season, I'd bet on a film re-do like TTGLs though.
Every episode of Re has a different director (kantoku = the name for the director not episode). First is Imaishi. The second episode is done by the director of the first Kanon series and is entirely done at Toei. The Third is Masayuki but it also has Anno sharing the episode director/storyboard (Toei credits both as enshutsu) credit with him.
Mainwriter for Re was Nakashima who writes Kill la Kill.
Imaishi is so based he can do keyframes for a live action movie.
>Mako was working for life fibers all along and betrays everyone
>Ryuko finds Satsuki's head on a pike
>Violence Ryuko begins
They're still technically "friends".
I'm not sure why Anno didn't go full gay though, he doesn't seem to have problems with that, pic related.
Maybe it was for working with someone else's property.
It could be Toei.
>leaving Ryūko with a cynical nature, but with basically the same character arcs.
Nigga what? Did you even SEE Re: Cutey Honey?
OP is wrong, but you're retarded.
Honey in ep 1 is out to establish a beachhead against Panther Claw in general and Golden Claw in particular. Natsuki is only out to call her superiors retards for not taking the situations as seriously as they should. Meanwhile, there's a quiet conspiracy about Honey and Sister Jill that is more than meets the eye, and gets more exposure in the followup eps.
It has shit-all to do with Honey trying to get it on with Na-chan.
What does any of that have to do with what I said you fucking retard? Also good job ignoring episodes 2 and 3 which is all about their relationship.
>Chief Director: Hideaki Anno
Hiroyuki Imaishi (ep 1)
Masayuki (ep 3)
Naoyuki Itou (ep 2)
Tadashi Hiramatsu (END)
Everyone you listed are episode directors which is common in anime (Imiashi was the director of TTGL and KLK but he didn't direct every episode.) Also Shinbo is a bad example since he did not direct Nise, Neko Black and the second season.
Anno's leivmotiv seems to be love as the only way to break insolation and the only good reason to live. Re Honey follow this theme but in a more lighthearted way
>The Live is worth watching
>The movie is awful
What the fuck am I reading? Are you mistaking the two? I enjoyed both the serie and the movie but you can't be serious right now.
It has everything to do with your loaded comment about shipping, dickless wonder.
Ep 1 displays Natsuki's sense of justice and hints that there's a serious backstory about her methods. Said backstory is revealed in the subsequent episodes, which then makes the payoff of her accepting Honey as a partner and friend all the more sweet.
Those two working as a combo is excellent. The ship-teasing is delightful. But your comment
>which is mainly focused on Honey trying to get it on with Natsuki
Is not only vulgar as fuck, but it's factually wrong concerning the theme and main plot of Re: Cutey Honey. Masturbate to the pairing all you want, but don't mistake your fantasy for canon and declare it as such.
>don't mistake your fantasy for canon and declare it as such.
Not the person you're replying to but I can't tell whether you're a shit troll or simply retarded as fuck.
Point out the exact scene where they agree to be girlfriends.
Point out the scene where Honey admits to loving just Natsuki instead of loving everyone.
I like my subtext much as the next person, but even I'm not so thick or obstinate.