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Kingdom thread : spirals edition.
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>>101791149
Cao Cao confirmed for over 100 int for beating Ryuudou 2.0 400 years later
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>>101791149
Cao Cao confirmed for >100 int for beating Ryuudou 3.0 400 years later.
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RIP in peace Duke

;_;
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>>101791405
atleast he went out wasting houkens arm
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Damn, shin collecting those memorabilia for later use. Full armor when?
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>>101791559
Houken really is an idiot in the end. The man is mentally weak as fuck and Riboku strings him around because of it.
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>>101791783
>Ouki glaive
>Duke shield
>King sword
>Rinko sword

All he needs are armor pieces and throwing daggers, maybe a bow but I don't think that's his style.

Oh and can't forget MUH HAPPY HORSE.
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>>101791783
Chapter 1.
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where did you get this?
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Who has the highest taunting stat , Rinbou or Duke Hyou ?
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>>101791799
No surprise considering he is one of the 4 greatest generals of the 7 warring states. Only 2 other people will come close to him.
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>>101791928
It's kinda depressing he's part of the losing team along with you know who. They kinda deserve a bit more props for being on the gimp side.
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>>101791405
You are going to have to carry that weight
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>>101792076
Both losers got owned by their king. Hilarious.

>>101791886
Duke of course, he gets things done when he taunts. Rinbou never achieved anything but make us laugh.
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>>101792076
Out of the 4 greatest. Probably only one can compete with him atm, another is still "growing" and the last one is dead. At least in this manga.

Sucks that his death wasn't on the battlefield but rather a result of foul play
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>>101792163
Ousen is as strong as him and Renpa.
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>>101792244
Then how come Ousen fails to defeat Riboku twice in a row when he leads the Zhao invasion campaign and has to resort to political maneuvering (probably not even his idea) to deal with the man?.

I also highly doubt in the manga any of them are a match for Renpa on even terms, but there's no such thing as even terms in this story, because Renpa never gets to fight with his own forces.
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>>101792244
Funny how none of the new "generation" so hyped about will be the greater than this one. Ousen, Renpa, Riboku and Bai Qi
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>>101792363
Wasn't historically Ousen the one that liked long campaigns appearing inactive for a long time, waiting for the opportunity to strike?

In his last campaign he spent a long time pretty much doing nothing.
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>>101792363
Renpa can't even be considered great for what he has done once he left Zhou. He was great for his accomplishments with Zhou and once again got fucked over by the king.
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>>101792163
Don't forget best girl is equal to Riboku. She has to have the most loyal/consolidated army in the entire series.
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>>101792404
Mou Ten was.
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>>101792429
Yes, but his campaigns weren't short either before they had to use Plan B. We're not talking like Kingdom manga where a campaign goes for less than a year.

Zhao literally took nearly a decade, if not more. After they got hit by an earthquake and famine and shit. There's no excuse when you compare merits as generals, the man was out classed.
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>>101792483
Meng Tian was known more for his contributions to society than his merits as a general.
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>>101792436
Well historically no one even gave him a chance. What's he gonna do when no one wants to give him an army?

At least in Kingdom Hara gives him some screen time. If this were just based on records without liberties the man would be sipping martinis until he died.
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>>101792404
The only true super star of the new generation is Kyou Kai for really fucking obvious reasons.
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>>101792558
Sipping martinis till he dies isn't bad considering how the rest dies
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>>101792680
But the battlefield is his LOVER. You can't deny a man his PASSION.

Wang Jian honestly got the best deal out of everyone, but you can bet your ass he's one of the last bosses due to his death being unrecorded.
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>Every commander of shin dies
Must have a death wish having him under your command.
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>>101792852
That is until Wang Jian takes him, but if >>101792722 theory is true then Shin's gonna end up killing the fucker anyways

Truly the man is the Guts of Kingdom. Nothing good comes from being around this guy.
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>>101791799
riboku actually agreed with calling him a buffoon
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>>101792985
It's one of the few times the databook was incorrect, though this time it's not about the numbers but just the text.

>implying buffoon is not different to idiot

Damn it.
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>>101792507
At the same time, Riboku failed in this current invasion of Qin, even with much superior forces.
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And Riboku's victories lately depend a lot on having Houken.
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>>101793284
Not proportionally. We're talking about an unstoppable Qin which conquered Han and had no opposition committing massive forces against a broken down Zhao.

This current arc doesn't even compare. The coalition doesn't even outnumber Qin 2:1.

And Ousen takes no part in Riboku's gambits in this arc at all. It's not fair to say he's better because he got matched up against someone dumber than him by 12 whole points.
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>>101791405
As expected of the Duke, he died like Ouki did, passing on the torch to the new generation
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>>101793343
i wonder how riboku himself would've fared against duke hyou.
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>>101793343
Mougou's victories depended on Ousen and Kanki. What's your point? The ability to acquire talent is part of being a leader.
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Duke Hyou was the greatest hero in history
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>>101793518
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#basedhyou
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>>101791405
At least he broke Houkens' arm.
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Read everything translated this week, and was thinking how Duke Hyou is the best living Qin general.

;_;7
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Do you think Shin will eventually make general just because no-one wants to be his superior? It's a death sentence.
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You guys think there's place in western education for Chinese history?

Personally I think why the hell not since my teacher also taught us some Indian history for a week for whatever reason along with other countries.
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>>101794028
It is possible. I'm just not sure if it would be done well.
Even medieval western history is not taught properly.
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>>101794028
The Ottoman empire was pretty cool too until they shot themselves in the foot.
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>>101794028
No, you can only learn about King Arthur in history class.
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>>101794006
Mougou confirmed for the best and strongest Qin general.
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I read Kingdom and Yowamushi Pedal today, I've overdosed on hotbloodedness and weird-looking people.
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How much MP does it cost to summon Houken?
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>>101794354
A dead tiger and some bait.
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So, who is the next general that SHiN will follow?
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>>101794745

Actual general and not just him acting out on his own?

Heki
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>>101794126
He was never a direct superior. The shrimp guy was still a buffer between him and Shin during the Wei campaign.
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>>101794810
I clicked spoilers too fast without realizing I just spoiled myself on who kicks the bucket next. Fuck.
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So now Shin has:

Weapon: Squinty's sword, Big Lip's glaive, Sei's sword
Off-Hand: Mufasa's shield
Accessories: his two bitches

All he needs to do now is to tag around a general with neato armor and he is set.
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>>101795000
You forgot the horse mother fucker. Every general has to have his own special hat wearing horse.
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>>101795051
Shins horse will wear an armor of swords, shields and glaives that he got over the years
By the time shin becomes general his weapon shack will look like some kind of RPG inventory
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>>101795255

>and Shin becomes Chinese Gilgamesh
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>>101794848
Heki not dead bro.
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>>101795392

historically he's about to get #rekt
as in he gets owned and they decide to shit all over his corpse some more
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>>101795335
Are you trying to say one of the Ten Bows of China will beat Shin? Those guys have sucked dick so far besides Kyou En.

>Kyou En is in Chu with Renpa

Nevermind. Wow. Totally spoiled.
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>>101795447
Damn, just checked Shiji.

Now I'm sad.

Xin is just one bad luck cloud huh.
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>>101795680

and now we know why the Qin Emperor was obsessed with finding immortality
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>>101795447
Who is his real life counterpart?
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>>101794814
Sasuga Hakurou. Always so meta.

>Born in Qi
>Retreat from Renpa every single time knowing the difference in power levels
>Realizes he's not in MC's homeland, moves there on some excuse like he can't win
>Climbs up to a rank capable of taking people under his wing
>Recruit Ousen and Kanki into his harem
>Bang bitches and pop out genetic monstrosity
>Spoil the best grand son so he's indebted
>Climb to Great General by sitting back baiting faggots as he turtles up all day every day
>Wins anyway because his deputies are Great General tier
>Faces Renpa and knows he can't win
>Takes an entire night off just so he can track down the MC with his meta radar
>Act nice, gain temporary harem addition of MC + God Dancer securing his victory
>Takes on Renpa now that his harem party is over leveled for the encounter
>Isn't stingy and even sacrifices an arm to buy time for best result
>Win against Renpa gaining unmatched fame, handicap gives excuse to retire in all his glory
>Probably dies of old age before shit hits the fan

This man is clearly faking it.
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>>101796115
Uh, most characters in Kingdom are named after their real life counter parts.

The only exceptions are guys like Ouki, and that's only because Japanese don't have the specific letters for the Yi in Wang Yi.
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>>101795447
w-what'll happen?
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>>101796115
In a historical manga they usually name the guys after real people.

Eg. George Washington would not be renamed as G-wash
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>>101796100
This is kinda depressing if you think about it.


-Shin reaches Great General status
-Shouheikun is the Chief of Military Affairs, direct superior to Shin
-Shin gets demoted after he fails due to Shouheikun's betrayal not wanting to die from curse
-Ousen demands Shin not be in his army for Chu
-Chu falls, Shouheikun dies


You just can't get around this mother fucker.
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>>101796542

>Sei wises up on the curse
>OH SHIT time to find some immortality
>finds immortality
>its mercury
>welp time to make tomb
>thousands die making it

Let's not forget about Shin's curse's first victims
>his parents
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>>101796668
And technically Hyou was big brother enough to be a direct superior also. It all fits.
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>>101796542

Daily reminder historically Kyoukai is mentioned in the Shiji as a general before Shin. RIP 2nd best girl.
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>>101796542
>>101796668
>>101796831
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>>101796342
i guess he means their actual chinese names
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>>101796893
And the Coalition Against Qin's MVP goes to..................SHIN!

I mean Mangoku for Duke Hyou? That's a fucking bargain bin deal, who wouldn't take it?
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>>101796831

Also remember that angry cavalry dude who took charge of the hill assault in Shin's first battle?

Didn't go so well for him either.
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>>101796885

Ten: Just as planned
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>>101797102
>Go suicidal with Duke Hyou for years and years
>Come out unscathed every single time
>Shin enters under your direct command
>Insta-gibbed
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>>101797154
I doubt she's getting away with it either. She commands Shin half the time anyways.
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>>101795447
what happens to Heki? I can't find historical info on him, is he even a real person?
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>>101797889
Fucking amazing.
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>>101796985
Spoiler alert: Heki is his actual chinese name.
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Rip in peace Duke Hyou, the best Kingdom ;_;
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>>101797538

Yup. And according to my internet skillz, he dies in the chu invasion. Something about that Minister who's friends with mou bu betraying and shit.
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>>101797996
No, it's Bi, there's no heki in chinese

Source : I'm chinese
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wouldnt the curse of shin affect sen? or is that for the future?
im just catching up on the raws but i dont know the overall warring states history.
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>>101798178
Your internet skills suck dick and totally mixed people up.
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>>101798191
Who's Sen? If you mean the king, read the spoilers above.
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Next:

Shin gets stronger in the training arc.

Except it is not training.
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So how many chapters are we currently behind?
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>>101798445

so by training you mean holding hands with kyoukai right?
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>>101798617
Is kyoukai back already? I need more Kyoukai
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TIL: Using one arm is almost always better than using two. Therefore, dual-wielding must be the best class/spec in Kingdom.
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>>101798823

triple wielding since the horse is a weapon too
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>>101799084
Put a spike on the horse's head or something, too.
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Best Kingdom moment so far is still the 'arrow'.
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>>101799159
I call bullshit, the last guy who had spikes on a horse was Kanmei. He didn't even get one kill before getting rekt.
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>>101799084
But no one in this manga wields the horse like Lu Bu does. Hell even Amiru's brother uses the horse better.

I'm almost certain the horses in Kingdom are mobile troll faces meant to ruin the enemy's concentration.

>Enemy cavalry charging towards you
>Nine-fold spear formation ready to rape the shit out of horses that will run straight into your pointy sticks
>Sees crazy smiling horse with crest white teeth
>Sides fly into the heavens
>Get stomped to shit because you can't hold your spear properly
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>>101791405
He was too good a general for this world.
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>>101799453
not to mention that the calvary literally can ride vertically down a wall.
what's up with that?
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>>101799754
What about the bendy halberds?
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>>101798823
TIL: Ancient Chinese don't skip leg day.

>Medieval European Knight gets sent flying
>Gets thrown off horse
>Ancient Chinese guy gets sent flying
>Legs fucking pull 1000kg horse into the air with them
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>>101799786
more believable than riding down a cliff.
in my country that is called falling to your death
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>>101799754
What you didn't learn how to concentrate your Ki onto your horses' feet? Even the Japanese learn how to do it with their ninjas as early as Naruto season 1.

>>101799786
Predecessor for those bendy titanium glasses we have today.
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I think I've perfected military formations. I want to have my army move in a whirlpool motion, and each individual soldier will also be spinning themselves around.
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>>101799970
Junji Ito pls go
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>>101799970

Nope check >>101791355 someone else already tried it and got ass raped.
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>>101799970
next time i get attacked in TW i will make my troops spin like a revolving door and then attack them from behind
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>>101800109
I wonder if anyone's pulled off the Ousen move in TW. Anyone who falls for that must be bitching at themselves hard.
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>>101800109
>>101800276
All I ever did in TW was put out a little group of bait infantry, wait for the enemy to approach, and run my cavalry up the flank.

This won every battle.
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You now realize that
>Ouki left Shin his glaive which symbolizes the conquest of China
>Duke left Shin his shield which symbolizes the defense of Kanyou
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>>101800428
What else will Shin be given?
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>>101800978
From the looks of the first chapter, a really fucking ugly hat.
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>>101801053
And a winking horse.
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>>101801086
MUH HAPPY HORSES WERE FORESHADOWED
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I bought the new dynasty warriors because reading kingdom gets my blood lust going. I can't find Xin though. Either way it's gonna be ballin' when he has ouki's glave and duke's shield.
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>>101801123
DW is 400 years in the future...does Xin even get a cameo like Wang Jian does?
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>>101797889
I cry evrytiem.
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For a guy who has god like combat stats, Houken sure is full of fucking openings. How is he gonna survive Kyoukai the next time they meet?
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>>101805179
In my opinion, he isn't a Bunshin. Sure he has the power of one.

But he thinks himself superior, so he has more openings than lolis in rape-doujins.

Like SSJ2 Trunks
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>>101795000
Whichever general is dumb enough to wear the armor or hat from chapter 1 may as well fly Death as their banner.

Seriously, I bet you just have to force Houken or Riboku to wear one of those pieces and their fate is sealed.

>Houken acquires Shin's helm
>Houken trips over a flight of stairs
>Houken dies
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>>101806211
and then his green-haired imouto becomes Zoro 0.5 edition
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>>101806131
Bushin actually isn't completely invincible, it's just an ideal state of mind / body, kinda like Mystic Gohan.

Houken has the ideal body, but his focus and state of mind aren't all that strong and he's easily beaten out of it because as hinted by Duke Hyou and Riboku, Houken is actually someone who thirsts for battle like a real general even if he currently lacks the skills for it. It contradicts his entire life style, yet he cannot help fussing over it due to the strength one gains from the 'weight' that comes from being one.

Kyoukai is the closest person to reaching the pinnacle of both, being able to harness the state of clear mind and still harness the power of hot bloodedness as shown when she raped all 500 elites during the Sanyou campaign, but not only has she not yet learned to combine the two, her body's too weak in stamina and therefore limits her focus on a timer.
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>>101791149
Despite being spoiled I just love how Kingdom manages to be so fucking great from each segment to the next. Right after Duke Hyou dies I'm already excited for how Kanyou will deal with a 20-40k army Riboku with Houken.

Incoming Riboku tier power level general aka BEST GIRL aka EVEN MUH 4TH STAT IS 100 BITCHES
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Did decision of Riboku to ask reinforcements from the coalition actually backfire in hindsight?
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>>101807014
How would it backfire?
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>>101807195
The reason of Duke Hyou and Hi Shin Unit catching up Riboku's army is that they saw the weird movement of the reinforcement army. Or so they said.
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>>101807418
That might be it haha, though I'm not sure if the ones Duke Hyou caught were from the other members of the coalition or Zhao itself.

Remember Riboku and Kaine had to go last, because they were with the army right up until the day Kanmei died. Riboku was even initially going to summon Kaine in the first place meaning she wasn't in the mountain ranges.

But maybe they left in the night and those other scrubs got caught. Very possible.
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>>101806467
Houken can kick the shit out of kyoukai

Hell, even Shin in the future will be able to do that without his plot armor
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>>101807418
>Riboku in real life: Perfection on the Battlefield
>Riboku in Kingdom: Mistake after Mistake because muh filler arc

Being Li Mu is suffering.
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>>101807635
That's probably true, Kyoukai doesn't have enough raw strength/stamina to compete.
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>>101799213
Kanki's arrow or the arrow that killed Ouki?

I liked Kanki's arrow the best.
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>>101807795
this
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>>101807880
But that arrow has 300% recoil damage on it. Everyone who shoots it always dies.
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>>101807014
Yeah, and He did that only to save the other states' pride, which makes it even more hilarious than " Hey Ordo, do you know that Ousen usually escapes from impossible fights?".
Poor Riboku, always losing for such shitty petty details...
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>>101807679
I'm sure Shin wasn't as retarded in real life as he is in Kingdom either.

>>101808548
He really was an idiot for not clarifying what it really meant. He totally gave Ordo the wrong impression.
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>>101807679
Perfection on the battlefield maybe, but certainly not in politics. Ousen is way better at that.

Ousen learned from Hakuki's example while Riboku didn't learn from Renpa's. How one deals with their king is also an important part of being general, even if it's not directly related to the battlefield.

In that regard, Riboku was an idiot. Renpa was a shining example of how stupid his king was to begin with. If he wasn't gonna suck up for secured loyalty he shoulda ousted the mother fucker.
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>>101808114
But it's a god damn persistent arrow.
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>>101809923
I guess....seems only worth it if you're lying on your death bed though.



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