22 EPISODES FOR THIS
Nothing happened for the rest of it, so why were you the slightest bit surprised nothing happened at the end?
Another person who doesn't understand the characters I see.
Yes, for a good end of the first season.
I was surprised they didn't do some shitty anime original shit end.
>Needing closure to enjoy something fully
>not having closure
shit tier writing
What is something similar to this?
Something supernatural/mystery but not too HEAVY
Google tells me The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya
This is one of those cases where, if you didn't understand it, it really did go over your head.
They as good as confessed their feelings for one another. Chitanda introduced Oreki to her "place", the place to which she will return and her future will play out, and Oreki admitted to himself that he wanted to return here to be with her.
If you are going to ask for recs, at least be more specific.
How is it gonna end before the novel?
They were already pretty much anime original by the end. They could of just did a full original ending. Then in S2, if they did a S2, they could of retconned it by showing it as a daydream like they did in the final episode.
That's how Japanese stories usually go.
And it's not bad. It just means that life continues. There is no singular end to a story.
And besides, as others have told you, this ending was true to the characters. Oreki is not ready for a full commitment.
>Oreki admitted to himself that he wanted to return here to be with her.
I don't remember this
>They were already pretty much anime original by the end.
No. No they weren't.
>Anime original end
>Not anime original end
/a/ in a nutshell, there isn't a thing that can be done to appease the autism. And I'm pretty sure it's the same group for both, they just like starting shit on the internet.
>/a/ is one person
Are you fucking kidding me? In his fantasy version of their conversation he voluntarily tied his future to hers. Despite the fact that Chitanda is the opposite of his preferred life style, despite the fact that her future isn't "the best" - her own words - he still said that he would run the business side of things if she handled the science side.
If you didn't understand that within seconds of the episode ending then you are literally retarded.
Shipper scum in charge.
you actually managed to watch 22 episodes of this borefest? Wow
>inb4 deep, complex ANALysis
He didn't say any of that out loud, but the thought was there. For someone as apathetic as Oreki that's as close as you get to a confession.
No need to get so aggressive, it's been a long time since I watched it.
Sorry I got you so riled about it
That ridiculous level of shipping faggotry.
What's wrong? The ending was great even if there was no concrete conclusion. Plus, it sets up for a second season that will never come ;_;
>Watching Hyouka for love interests
Plus its implied as fuck you moron
Of course it is. Deep down.
B-but they'll make a movie of the 5th LN, right?
Looking at the rate of release for the LN's, and assuming the next book should be released around now, it'll only be 8 more years until they have four more LN's to make into a second season!
Even though I liked the romantic undertones, I'm glad they didn't do something like confess in the last episode, that would have been retarded as fuck.
Some common sense and simple deductive reasoning would've brought you to these points, anon.
Are you doing it on purpose or are you just stupid?
>OP realises he's wasted time on kyoani show thats almost as boring as KnK
I don't even have an image to do the justice
maximum bait incoming
Oh boy another dumb shit who missed the subtext
Don't get my hopes up anon, I'm already trying to imagine how beautiful the animation will be.
People would stop shitting themselves over the animation in 5cm/s if there were a Hyouka movie and it was drawn half as well as Disappearance.
This is the last shot of the last episode.
Are these incredibly detailed mushroom-type things supposed to signify something or are they just there to look pretty?
Okay now you are looking WAY too deep into things man.
It's a phallus.
Actually it was super interesting.
My god why are there so many stupid people who watched this show?
Mushrooms grow ridiculously fast, they represent the dawning realisation of both Chitanda and Oreki that they like one another. The mushrooms are their quickly growing relationship.
>check KyoAnus's schedule
>they're making more free, a tamako market movie, and animating some LN that sounds awful and only has 3 volumes out so far
I'm sure they could find room in there to make a Hyouka movie in the near future.
>implying Kyoani could deliver something that subtle
Delusional little anon.
This reminds me of what I thought this would be when I first picked it up.
I was thinking that it was some supernatural horror thing set in a high school.
They represent old man penis and how Chitanda will inevitably come to love it because Oreki was indecisive
Fuck off if you can't articulate your thoughts on your own.
Didn't the director say he won't animate Hyouka anymore or some shit like that? I don't think there'll be another one even if you dream really hard.
Why should I bother to write something if it's already been written and covered thoroughly?
To show that you aren't stupid and just parroting things you've read somewhere.
Basically it would've been more than enough to say something like "You guys really are overthinking this, the entire purpose of those mushrooms is to look pretty.
If it's not broken fix it.
The big mushrooms represent Oreki and Chitanda as a couple, and the two little ones represent their cute little children from that really good fanart.
No, I doubt that there's any meaning to them.
But it's possible.
If I could moonrune the first thing I'd do is read the LN that didn't get adapted.
I think they're just mushrooms man
Mushrooms that represent Chitand and Oreki's future family, yes.
That's what I suspect.
The reason I asked the question was because I thought there might be SOMETHING significant about them since it's the very last shot. But it's probably just meant to be pretty.
Alright, someone write a crossover where the SOS brigade meets the classics club and Haruhi and Oreki have hate sex after Kyon and Chitanda, who were quite taken with each other upon their first meeting, go on a date.
>Kyon and Chitanda
She'd be as much of a nuisance for him as Haruhi.
> I thought there might be SOMETHING significant about them since it's the very last shot
S2 will obviously be about sentient mutant mushrooms trying to take over the planet by infecting people with spores to manipulate their thoughts and actions.
I know right? Should've end with the best girl.
>better than ZA FURU
We just went from shipping faggotry to shipping wars faggotry.
Meanwhile, in Haruhi Suzumiya, after 6 episodes ...
Who is the better tsundere, Kyon or Oreki?
Actually looks like a good game
>those crazy ass looking killer rabbits
Jesus christ how horrifying
Kyon all the way. The justification of his Tsundere attitude is much better than "hurr i want to conserve energy nooo i dont want to solve mystery". His growing relationship with Haruhi is deeper than Oreki and Chitanda and he has a full movie to go full introspection during 3 hours.
>that height difference
And Oreki isn't that tall to start with.
Mayaka confirmed midget.
That's hard man. Oreki make my dick hard, so I'll go with him
Kyon didnt have much of a choice, considering the fact that a GOD with huge mental ans self issues is about to break the very fabric of reality and rework it to Haruhi knows what
Graphics straight out of a gen one PSP game.
This. I was glad to see Oreki change because constantly repeating that catchphrase was getting on my nerves.
I'd do Oreki with his bed hair. No homo.
Kyon, because Oreki is too lazy to Tsun or Dere.
That's just KyoAni fetish for detail
Oreki's character isn't really so much about that. He tries to act like he's above it all, but really he's just hiding a huge insecurity. He's constantly afraid that he's not going to live up to everyone's expectations of him, so he does everything he can to prevent them from forming expectations to begin with. The laziness was (mostly) just a cover for this.
Oreki seems like he'd be the worst boyfriend. He wouldn't want to do anything, would always look apathetic, probably has no idea how to show affection.
Chitanda deserves better than that.
Yeah but only he can satisfy her curiosity with his dick
And this is why Hyouka is one of the worst shit ever made by kyoanus.
I would hold her hand so hard.
>Chitanda deserves better than that
Arranged marriage to some rich dude from an important family.
Maybe not over here, but Oreki is pretty tall for a nip.
That's what I got from watching it too, but "make the ending you want" is pretty silly, sure I can make up my own happy ending for them but if I'm making up the ending for myself then why don't I make my own story? I want to be told a story that someone else (somsone who's a better story teller than I) wrote, one where I have to deal with all the ups and downs the characters go through and don't just pass it all off as "I think they lived happily ever after."
Chuuni was worse. It didn't have any closure to begin with.
And then nothing happened in the OVA. And now S2 is just a whole heap of pussyfooting around the relationship and nothing happening.
Status quo for eternity.
You do realise there is another LN past were the anime ends right
And most likely another one coming out this year
Its not over
It's heavily implied they've been fucking every day since they moved in together though. They just are embarrassed in front of other people.
I was just addressing the points raised in what he posted.
>why don't I make my own story?
The point here is that what needed to be tell is done. Do what you want with the rest.
Do you even watch the show? Why do you think the Priestess was so absconded when she found out they were living together?
>Rikka turns up to school pregnant
>they still haven't kissed yet
Hint it's not Utah's child
No, Chuuni had lots of closure.
Then they re-opened it again.
I agree Chitanda should have died in the end
KyoAni's been holding it over our heads for so long that there'll be a shitstorm if they actually do it.
Not keeping my hopes up.
She wants the D for herself.
Do you just go and kiss all your female friends when barely knowing them?
It's called subtlety.
Not every human relationship is fast-paced and you have sex within a few months of knowing somebody
It's not that uncommon in Japan for couples to fuck for a long time before they even kiss. Just look at Tsumugu's route in Ikikoi, they fucked for weeks but didn't kiss until the very end when she was hella drunk. Pretty sure I've seen a bunch of eroge that were the same way, so I doubt it's that uncommon.
You know, like taken aback.
And it does make sense for their relationship to progress slowly because of they're complete opposites. Oreki is slow to change, and getting in a relationship with her would mean completely abandoning his old values and crossing over to a "rose colored" life.
>He hasn't seen Haruhi
What are you doing?
It's an actual novel.
Hyouka is an LN series and what the author did before writing actual mystery novels.
Why isn't this a thing?
I wish it was. They had hella good chemistry, he just always considered her off-limits because she was his best friends sister I guess.
Because worst girl
Because shipping like that is disgusting.
I liked the ending
But s2 never
Because no source material.
Whydon't thye din't make up their own ending
>best friends sister
>WAHHHHHH WHY DIDN'T THEY KISS.
Not everything needs a romance ending, The ending was fine and topped it off.
Everyone wants a romance in every damn show.
>Watching it out of order
Because KyoAni writing is shit and it would ruin Hyouka.
Talking about Mayaka.
Tamako Love Market or whatever is coming out soon. Now imagine how buttdevestated everyone will be if nothing happens.
Oddly enough I literally just finished watching Hyouka.
If you're the type of person who can't pay attention to characters that act like people instead of walking archetypes, and who develop subtly this might not be the show for you.
There was always a dozen things happening between the main plot, the character development, visual metaphors and screen composition being used to convey emotions and thoughts instead of shitty dialog only exposition. If you think at any point that "Nothing is happening" you missed the whole point of the show and might want to try something else.
Mayaka isn't Satoshi's sister.
It would be a bit strange her to confess to him otherwise.
No, the first season's ending had no closure whatsoever. It put out a resolution to the storyline but offered no closure in terms of the characters or their relationships. They're not the same thing, and both of those are important to an ending.
it's fine not to have romance in every show, but they actually had romance in the show so it only stands to reason that there's some conclusion to it.
Watching in broadcast order is just needlessly confusing. There are plenty of shows that actually pull a jumbled chronology like that and manage to still make sense and feel like that is how they were really meant to be experienced, but I don't think Haruhi is one of them.
She didn't confess to him, did she? She just tried to give him candy but he didn't want it.
The characters are walking archetypes though, which together make up what makes a good detective
Satoshi is the memory, Chitanda is the curiosity, Oreki is the deduction and Mayaka is the personality.
They hated each other. If it breaks canon then it's it's just delusional fanart.
Did you even watch the show
this will never be canon
I watched in both orders, wasn't really worth it, only noticed a few things that lined up in the different order.
That's going a little far. Mayaka originally found Oreki annoying but she warmed up to him pretty early on, they just teased each other a lot.
>they hated each other
Why are nips so good at drawing
I bet you're the kind of person who thinks everyone hates them.
What are the novels that appeared in the ED?
>Japan in charge of romance.
Could as well ask a Rhino to use chopsticks.
What happened wasn't enough. That's what people usually mean.
>he hasn't read the novels
The entire reason Mayaka even started dating Satoshi was because she thought it would bring her closer to Oreki. She dumps him in the latest novel and confesses to Oreki but he turns her down, mostly because he feels like it would be betraying his friend. Satoshi still hates him for it though.
>Chitanda and Oreki's daughter
I can't believe how well the artist recreated the style and Kyoani design. It honestly looks like it came from the anime (besides the backgrounds).
>She dumps him in the latest novel and confesses to Oreki but he turns her down, mostly because he feels like it would be betraying his friend
This is a lie right
Jesus dude, spoiler that shit, we have spoilers for a reason.
I don't speak moonrunes so I couldn't care less. Also fuck you for spoilers.
Goddamn it must be pure suffering being Satoshi
>coming in these threads if you haven't read the novels
Serves you right.
>implying i speak moon
Does Oreki just like lie a fish on the bed during sex?
There is no translation you miserable sod.
Those are the jobs, not their personalities.
I loved the movie arc where up until that point they made Oreki out to be the super brain only to show you the other 3 played an important part of making the "perfect detective". The way he was fooled and subsequently failed did loads for his character. I was even a little disappointed to see how competent he was afterwards.
The one right there was "Lord Edgeware Dies".
>complaining about spoilers for something you'll most likely never see or read
Thats just sad
I thought this wouldn't turn to harem shit but i guess not
You are literally worse than Hitler.
And if you thought what happened wasn't enough, then you literally missed most of what was going on.
Well I want to read it now that you spoiled me on that, asshole.
It's not true, right?
Hyouka end a shit
That's Another, minus the cooking.
You're doing it wrong.
>mostly because he feels like it would be betraying his friend
So not because he loves Chitanda
There's also a shitload of Holmes in there... the author must be one huge fan of mystery.
Does >>101790980 ever end up wanting his dick?
He still refuses to fully admit that he does, but during that confession scene he mostly just felt bad for Satoshi, rather than it being about "I would but I like Chitanda more".
I'm getting there, slowly but surely.
LN readers, is this true?
>I loved the movie arc where up until that point they made Oreki out to be the super brain only to show you the other 3 played an important part of making the "perfect detective". The way he was fooled and subsequently failed did loads for his character. I was even a little disappointed to see how competent he was afterwards.
Eh, the issue is it wasn't lacking the others that made him fail so bad. It was that he fell for praise set up by his sister, who understood exactly what to do to mess with his head and cause him not to think things through.
lel, there's no need to act like a cunt. Might as well spam 2deep4u if you have nothing to say.
Assuming that he's not lying, the saddest part is that it would continue Satoshi's feelings of inferiority to Oreki.
Too wild of a pairing for Kyoani to handle.
If Hyouka is an amusing luncheon in the garden,
Haruhi will be a five-course banquet.
Both shows are good, but the metanarritive of Haruhi is where the beef of the series lies.
How long untill he snaps and kills Oreki
Is Another not shit?
Weren't you one of those faggots during Galilei Donna?
I thought they attend the same college. Must've been wrong though, I don't even remember where I read that.
Satoshi deserved better than that.
THIS IS BAIT RIGHT?
Stop rubbing salt in the wound dude.
It kind of acts like the final nail in the coffin in that regard. He's hit pretty hard by the whole thing. Pretty much goes into full despair mode as a result. I wouldn't be surprised if he attempts suicide in the next novel or something.
Thank god. This world doesn't need such travesty.
Suddenly I'm happy there is no second season of Hyouka.
Why even go there then?
Damn, now I want a S2 even more. I have to see this shit animated, /a/ is gonna flip its shit.
10 seconds on Google is all it takes to find out what the latest novel is about and that the spoilers are bullshit.
Let's not even mention how wildly out of character it would be and how much it would fly in the face of the entire Valentines Day episode.
Not surprising. Satoshi's kind of a pathetic when it comes down to it. Oreki lacks motivation a lot of the time, but at least he's talented.
Satoshi has energy, but even that's completely undirected and ultimately results in no achievements. He's not got much going for him.
And it all started with some innocent fanart.
This all happens within the last couple of chapters leading into the cliffhanger at the end of the book, of course it's not going to be mentioned in the official summaries.
If you ever suffer from insomnia again, you'll just have to rewatch S1.
But that just doesn't even make sense
>Finally start dating Satoshi
>lel jk i love Oreki really
S2 never please
Oh I'm well aware the manipulation was his downfall (it was Ibisu that tripped him up by outright telling him how special he was) but I just liked how it showed he wasn't a one man act.
Yes, eroge are a completely accurate representation of real Japanese relationships.
>Oreki moves in to confess
>SUDDENLY OUT OF FUCKING NOWHERE, Chitanda's rich athletic BOYFRIEND pulls up in a convertible and makes a wisecrack about how good she was last night
>She laughs, then hops in and kisses him
>Together, they tease Oreki for being too lazy
>Speed off to going mountain-climbing together
>Series ends with Oreki staring at the dustcloud
This was the original ending but the test audiences didn't like it for some reason. Weird, huh?
>it was Ibisu that tripped him up by outright telling him how special he was
She was just following his sister's script. The whole arc was actually his sister messing with him for fun.
This is a lie.
And Mayaka was shown to have some interest in Satoshi before. Like, in grade school.
I honestly can't tell if that guy is being sarcastic or not. My little /a/non can't be this stupid.
there is a mistery that they never solve, they just leave it for others.
The only one who could do something does it at the very last moment where it didnt really matter much anymore.
I hate how stupid people here have gotten.
Except it wasn't an official description, but people who read it discussing it. And as I said, let's ignore how much it wouldn't make sense.
I'm not fluent in moon, but I can read a bit. Please post the page where Ibara confesses to Oreki and I'll be happy to verify if you're telling the truth.
Those weren't /a/
I like Mayaka, but if this true then she's undoubtedly worst girl.
>people actually falling for this
This show was good. The ending was memorable. If not a bit trollish.
And for all you fools saying good writting demand "clousure", empirical studies have actually shown that open ended storilines tend to be favour by viewers. Google it for all I care.
>The whole arc was actually his sister messing with him for fun.
She does that a lot, but Ibisu was still the one whose special way with words and persuasion got him.
On that note, the only issue I have with the series is that these characters are way too interesting and well developed for high school kids. They are all so clever and have such amazing planning skills (especially Orekis sister who is admittedly a bit older) and their inner monologs or true feelings are way beyond what you'd expect of kids that age. They're just too serious and interesting.
That said, it'd be boring and wouldn't be nearly as nuanced and well written otherwise, and the fact that in the movie arc they commented on how sometimes characters just need to do things to captivate the audience made me laugh.
Remember when Chitanda was going to the USA.
I want to see a series end exactly like this just to see how many otaku commit suicide.
Make the boyfriend a gaijin and it's 10/10
I'm not just a fucking statistic though. Also it should be your priority to tell a story rather than to try to appeal to the largest percentage of viewers.
You mean Mexico.
Make him black for a 15/10
>Boyfriend is voiced by Tomokazu Seki hamming it up with his absolute best Gilgamesh voice
This would be glorious.
But favour from viewers doesn't equal good writing.
Regardless I agree with your point that closure isn't always necessary for a good story.
Fucking tryhard white kids.
>I am not a statistic
yes you are
> it should be your priority to tell a story rather than to try to appeal to the largest percentage of viewers.
Welcome to capitalism son.
Fictional characters aren't supposed to be perfect representations of real world people. It'd be fucking boring if they were.
>He doesn't like the feeling of the wind
You're missing out.
I was taken in for a bit, but now that I think about it, it doesn't make sense and would be unnecessarily cruel if true.
It's still made me want to read the novels though.
To be fair though, as over the top and "too" interesting as they are they're still more "real" than a vast majority of anime characters. The fact that they have complex emotions and change over time, not with huge "THIS IS WHAT I LEARNED!" speeches but actual subtle character development makes them better characters than most.
They make bikes for that.
>tfw LN 5 translation never
Can you fixed that "Ibisu". It's Irisu.
Make it a motorcycle then.
I'm not going to change it because I don't think anyone new will read it, but thank you for pointing it out so I don't make the same mistake again.
>Plus, it sets up for a second season
it does absolutely nothing of the sort. If anything, with that finale, it sets up that any sequel would be pointless without a completely different narrative approach
> its implied
its not implied its explicit
It's not a cliffhanger by any means. The story could completely end there and that would be enough.
There is still more material though and there is still plenty of development left to be had for the characters.
Well for Oreki his abilities to be expected since he's basically a genius. But he does show some of the immaturity of a high schooler even if he's ridiculously smart, as do the other characters.
>They represent old man penis and how Chitanda will inevitably come to love it because Oreki was indecisive
for fucks sake this. I am sick and tired of japanese media depicting indecision as bearing no consequences. indecision bears consequences and being naive enough to delay things and stay indecisive is going to cost you
Is Irisu a virgin?
She's a miko, so buttsex only.
It certainly doesn't confirm a second season, but I could easily see more arcs happen after that. I'm just saying that the way it ended makes it possible for them to smoothly continue the series.
Plus, the series DOES continue after that, it just hasn't been adapted.
>Oreki is slow to change
>and getting in a relationship with her would mean completely abandoning his old values and crossing over to a "rose colored" life.
thats exactly what happened at the last episode and/or through the entire series. thats change in a few months.
But this story actually progressed at a normal, human pace. Oreki's change from gray to rose was radical, it completely changed his life. And it was all because of Chitanda. That's serious stuff especially when you take into account he's ready to accept her and all of her flaws and spend his whole life with her.
That episode near the end when they go to the library together was fucking perfect. It could have ended there for all I care.
What i thought was the best aspect was just watching how Oreki deals with Chitanda
At the start whenever he's asked to do anything he declines and argues against it
But the last episode he agrees to travel god only knows how manly miles and use his precious day off to go and help her. And he does it without a seconds hesitation
What I think the final scene with him looking at Chitanda means that he's not quite ready to abandon his old values, but he feels a strong pull towards that sort of lifestyle that he can't ignore as much as he might want to. Despite, that, he's still indecisive and not ready to fully commit to something different than how he's lived for so long.
Really? It was good for showing their relationship but it wasn't very interesting to me.
Seeing Oreki get interested, and having it be about something as somber as his teacher's friend (or maybe lover) dying was great. Very heavy message there how he refused to be misinformed about that because "he definitely doesn't like helicopters". It was the perfect "human" touch for Oreki.
>you will never meet your Chitanda to save you from NEETdom and laziness
What's even the point of living
Congratulations, you've managed to follow literally the most basic element of the narrative.
Still though, you're leagues ahead of some of the shitposters.
Oreki was curious about something himself and showed the product of his character development.. No one got in the way between the two of them. it was great. Teasing me in the episode 22 with what "could have been" only left me agitated.
That's because she isn't real and never will be because people like her don't exist.
I'm neither smart nor I can solve girl's problems so what's the fucking point?
They exist, just the chances of her beating down your door and dragging you into the real world are slim to none. You have to do things for yourself.
2 full seasons for this!
>Not liking Working
Are you hating on Working!! ?
I'll fight you.
Not him but I love working, just not shitty shits like her
Oh you fucking liar. 5th novel is about Oreki running in marathon. Mayaka was never into him.
It's not even a LN
But Inami is best girl
I love working. The OP (of the thread) is just dumb
>Oreki running in marathon
>Running a marathon
This is bait right
>5th novel is about Oreki running in marathon.
Now this seems like one big and stinky lie alright. But I'll go with it.
I'd much rather believe it than the one that other guy said.
All these retards believing in fake spoiler
WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU, /a/
Kotenbu series has even less romantic elements than anime.
Mayaka was never into Oreki, nori Irisu, IT'S NOT GENERIC LN WHERE ALL GIRLS WANT MC'S DICK
Look at chapter titles, dipshits
please stop posting!
Calm down son
>Oreki running a 20km marathon
Looks like the author is as bad as the troll.
Everybody reposts that paragraph with super DEEP insight and I'll be surprised if anyone read it. It's just full on rationalization.
No, the ending was neither satisfying nor conclusive. Why? Because the story isn't fucking finished yet. Stop acting like it was a proper ending.
Imagine if I took a novel, ripped out half of the pages and said "THIS IS HOW IT WAS MEANT TO BE READ".
It happens right after Chitanda gets knocked up in Mexico. Trust me, my dad works at Kadokawa.
Maybe he just walks the entire thing.
>walking 12 miles
Have fun walking for about 5 hours
All fictional detectives must have an older sibling that surpasses them. Of course Oreki's sister would be like that.
Maybe if you had actually read that paragraph you would understand that "the story goes on" is the whole point of that ending.
Cry more, faggot.
Let's not ruin Hyouka with that, it never was a shitty harem/romance.
I wish to see a harem with this end.
I wonder how many neckbeard neets have raged reading this. Good job.
If you're not a fat fuck it's not hard at all, a monthly training should be enough.
I started running this summer and I have a very low bodyfat index. You'll see huge improvements in a short period of time if you're constant.
>being an ameriblob
>No, the ending was neither satisfying nor conclusive.
>The only way to be satisfying is to completely shut out any future possibility of development
>Having major progress presented in a beautiful way doesn't count
You're a retard.
I said I have a very low bodyfat index.
You know what? You're absolutely right.
Still, her knowledge and ability to manipulate people and predict their behavior is unreal. Look at how much happened because she gave him a pen and a manga. That's insane.
Cause no one had ever lied on the internet right
Why would I lie about that?
I'll post a pic with timestamp when I go home, if you're so paranoid. I'm 1,70m for 63Kg. Shouldn't I be lying about my heigth too, following your reasoning?
You're lying because little girls don't reach more than 150 cm.
No one cares about how much you weigh you stupid fucker.
If I went too fast it would hurt my knees, and I’d pick up speed easier going downhill anyway. If you don’t remember to pace yourself properly during this 20 kilometer course, you won’t be able to make it back before sunset.
With that in mind I chose to concentrate on running downhill.
However, those really strange words of Ibara’s, that she said belonged to Oohinata, were still going around and around inside my head.
I felt something cold in that auspicious noun, and as the hill became steeper, the meaning of the word I was contemplating remained elusive.
The downhill slope made another large curve. The male student overtaking me gained too much momentum and widened the gap between us. I trod on with seemingly small steps. While thinking, I heard the continuously sparse sound of footsteps on asphalt from the Kamiyama High students surrounding me.
Somehow, with the zig-zagging path of the course, the curving road bent and opened up the view directly across from me. I could still see the snow that had fallen on the various mountains of the Kamikakiuchi Mountain Range. The cold winter wind would probably not blow from that direction, but I felt a sudden chill in the air.
Earlier, Satoshi had gone on ahead on his mountain bike, and Ibara had left as well. In order to let Chitanda catch up, I had to adjust my speed a bit.
With the bottom of the hill becoming even, I immediately relaxed my feet.
I have no memory of having a long talk face-to-face with Oohinata. However, with Oohinata taking advantage of Club Recruitment, perhaps a single something that was previously unthinkable happened. And assuming that a problem occurred concerning Oohinata’s relationship with Chitanda, it could very well have been a big deal.
I don’t want to remember much about that day. What I’m saying is, it’s not as if chills were going down my spine, but even now, I can feel a kind of lingering impatience.
It was clear on that day, on that weekend.
What is this shit?
Oreki running the marathon you retard.
>>The only way to be satisfying is to completely shut out any future possibility of development
lol i totally said that, thanks for quoting it
I think we can all agree that episode 17 was the best episode.
End of festival? If so then yes.
Yes, it's the end of the festival, and where this happens.
> people hating Hyouka ending
That fucking Oreki face.
>not hating every part of Hyouka that is not the School Festival Arc
He cared, faggot.
Stay a pleb with ADD.
I hate the festival.
Festival is for plebs.
Was that the one with the cooking?
I loved the whole thing, each part had its own merits.
Compared to the other parts it was boring.
It focused more on creating a living breathing environment than most other parts did, so there wasn't quite as much focus on characters (still plenty there) but the big colorful changing world they interacted with was enough to hold my interest,
I liked the movie part the better, I was hugely butthurted by that end. It was very good.
Damn, how much do I want to hate-rape the empress.
>I liked the movie part the better,
I can't believe more people don't reference it when talking about the show. It had the first mystery I couldn't solve instantly, it had tons of characterization and development, the commentary on how to make a movie was great (good meta stuff there), as someone who grew up reading Sherlock Holmes I could appreciate the discussion of entry level mystery fans, and seeing Oreki get knocked down was glorious. On top of that it was filled to the brim with the visual metaphors and great cinematography I love the series for and the darker atmosphere was nice.
Like I said, I don't know why it isn't more talked about.
Here, I don't know why it hasn't been posted yet.
>I don't like what happens
>it's shit writing
Learn the difference. Though, of course, the latter makes it sound as if you actually have a point instead of just having shit taste.
The first half or so is good, has a nice athmosphere, but then it kinda falls apart.
Yeah, I'm with you.
If you like Sherlock Holmes you should really read the Auguste Dupin tales by Poe.
I really want to read the Christie stuff they talked about as being a "true mystery fan" story. I'll take a look at that stuff by Poe too. Thanks.
It's just three short tales, read them today, seriously, it's the beginning of the genre.
How long will it take?
I'm on an all nighter now studying for grad school exams so I'd rather read them with a clear head so I'll do it tomorrow at some point.
I can't really do more than this.
Sorry for the spoonfeeding but my brain isn't working now. I'll read them all after I've had a good nights sleep.
Sure. Just do it.
I'll never get the hate for Hyuoka.
I know the usual
but the misteries are what make the series different, they're not "saving the world" and usual shounen stages.
Regarding Oreki's lazyness I aggree, it's stupid but kinda felt it fitted.
As for the series conclusion, this dude
>This is not the end of the story, they're first-graders, spring has begun...
knows his shit
And how do you feel?
Hopefully I'll be able to discuss them in some Hyouka thread that isn't started with shitposting.
Does Hyouka draw many obvious inspirations from these or are they pure mystery?
oh hey I finished this last night too.
>It has been recognized as the first detective story; Poe referred to it as one of his "tales of ratiocination". Two works that share some similarities predate Poe's stories, including Das Fräulein von Scuderi (1819) by E.T.A. Hoffmann and Zadig (1747) by Voltaire.
>Writing the first true detective in fiction, Poe's Dupin originated many literary conventions which would be used in future fictional detectives including Sherlock Holmes and Hercule Poirot. Many later characters, for example, follow Poe's model of the brilliant detective, his personal friend who serves as narrator, and the final revelation being presented before the reasoning that leads up to it.
It's all the reasoning stuff, the way it's narrated and the kind of mysteries. It started it all.
Sometimes smoking opium leads to great things.
The fact that he needed to mention his laziness and even repeat some sort of motto instantly killed it for me in the first episodes. But I forgave KyoAni because he never mentioned it again.
>Does Hyouka draw many obvious inspirations from these or are they pure mystery?
Kind of. For example, the phrase "Why didn't she ask EBA?" appears in the movie arc every episode, and is a reference to Christie's "Why didn't they ask Evans?".
But I guess the real inspiration, which is quite obvious, is for Kudryavka's Order, which is based on The A.B.C Murders, also Christie's.
Wow, what the fuck are you even talking about?
It's exactly like it is in the books.
looks like they have plenty material to work with, they should have a S2.
>It's all the reasoning stuff, the way it's narrated and the kind of mysteries. It started it all.
I'm a big fan of the deductive reasoning stuff, looking forward to that.
>which is based on The A.B.C Murders, also Christie's.
I'm really looking forward to reading this.
>plenty of material to work with
Also, the way Oreki solves the "mystery" of the movie kinda reminded me of "The Murder of Roger Ackroyd", which is also a pretty great Christie.
The guy, Kinny Riddle, was so good at it. What happened?
That's another one for the list.
if I ask nicely do you think they'll do it?
Post it again when they're done with the whole thing.
What kind of shitty ass mushrooms does your country have?
WHY ISN'T SHE REAL
Hey man, it's better than nothing.
Because then she'd be in 3 dimensions and by definition, inferior.
>and by definition, inferior.
Fuck that last dimension.
This, this is why I'd like to learn Nipponese.
Oreki & Marathon just does not fit into a same sentence, I'd like to read it so much.
I came here to call you a shipperfag.