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22 EPISODES FOR THIS

FOR THIS
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>>101789611
Nothing happened for the rest of it, so why were you the slightest bit surprised nothing happened at the end?
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Another person who doesn't understand the characters I see.
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>>101789611
Yes, for a good end of the first season.
I was surprised they didn't do some shitty anime original shit end.

#tybkyoanig
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>>101789611
>Needing closure to enjoy something fully
max pleb
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>>101789694
>not having closure
shit tier writing
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What is something similar to this?

Something supernatural/mystery but not too HEAVY

Google tells me The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya
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This is one of those cases where, if you didn't understand it, it really did go over your head.

They as good as confessed their feelings for one another. Chitanda introduced Oreki to her "place", the place to which she will return and her future will play out, and Oreki admitted to himself that he wanted to return here to be with her.
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>>101789772
If you are going to ask for recs, at least be more specific.
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>>101789709
How is it gonna end before the novel?
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>>101789823
They were already pretty much anime original by the end. They could of just did a full original ending. Then in S2, if they did a S2, they could of retconned it by showing it as a daydream like they did in the final episode.
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>>101789709
That's how Japanese stories usually go.
And it's not bad. It just means that life continues. There is no singular end to a story.

And besides, as others have told you, this ending was true to the characters. Oreki is not ready for a full commitment.
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>>101789806
>Oreki admitted to himself that he wanted to return here to be with her.

I don't remember this
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>>101789857
>They were already pretty much anime original by the end.

No. No they weren't.
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>Anime original end
>whine
>Not anime original end
>whine

/a/ in a nutshell, there isn't a thing that can be done to appease the autism. And I'm pretty sure it's the same group for both, they just like starting shit on the internet.
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>>101789990
>/a/ is one person
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>>101789934
Are you fucking kidding me? In his fantasy version of their conversation he voluntarily tied his future to hers. Despite the fact that Chitanda is the opposite of his preferred life style, despite the fact that her future isn't "the best" - her own words - he still said that he would run the business side of things if she handled the science side.

If you didn't understand that within seconds of the episode ending then you are literally retarded.
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>>101789611
Shipper scum in charge.
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>>101789611
you actually managed to watch 22 episodes of this borefest? Wow
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>inb4 deep, complex ANALysis
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>>101790046
He didn't say any of that out loud, but the thought was there. For someone as apathetic as Oreki that's as close as you get to a confession.
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>>101790046
No need to get so aggressive, it's been a long time since I watched it.

Sorry I got you so riled about it
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>>101789857
That ridiculous level of shipping faggotry.
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What's wrong? The ending was great even if there was no concrete conclusion. Plus, it sets up for a second season that will never come ;_;
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>Watching Hyouka for love interests

Plus its implied as fuck you moron
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>>101790227
Of course it is. Deep down.
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incoming
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>>101790199
B-but they'll make a movie of the 5th LN, right?

;_;

Looking at the rate of release for the LN's, and assuming the next book should be released around now, it'll only be 8 more years until they have four more LN's to make into a second season!
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>>101790227
Even though I liked the romantic undertones, I'm glad they didn't do something like confess in the last episode, that would have been retarded as fuck.
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>>101790261
>>101790046
Some common sense and simple deductive reasoning would've brought you to these points, anon.
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>>101790314
>shippers
>logic
>common sense
Are you doing it on purpose or are you just stupid?
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>>101789611
>OP realises he's wasted time on kyoani show thats almost as boring as KnK
I don't even have an image to do the justice
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>>101790341

maximum bait incoming
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Oh boy another dumb shit who missed the subtext
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>>101790263
>Hyouka movie
Don't get my hopes up anon, I'm already trying to imagine how beautiful the animation will be.
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>>101790383
People would stop shitting themselves over the animation in 5cm/s if there were a Hyouka movie and it was drawn half as well as Disappearance.
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This is the last shot of the last episode.
Are these incredibly detailed mushroom-type things supposed to signify something or are they just there to look pretty?
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>>101790487
Okay now you are looking WAY too deep into things man.
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>>101790487
It's a phallus.
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>>101790487
2deep4me
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>>101790068
Actually it was super interesting.
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>>101790487
My god why are there so many stupid people who watched this show?

Mushrooms grow ridiculously fast, they represent the dawning realisation of both Chitanda and Oreki that they like one another. The mushrooms are their quickly growing relationship.
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>>101790608
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>>101790263
>check KyoAnus's schedule
>they're making more free, a tamako market movie, and animating some LN that sounds awful and only has 3 volumes out so far

I'm sure they could find room in there to make a Hyouka movie in the near future.
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>>101790608
>implying Kyoani could deliver something that subtle
Delusional little anon.
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>>101790487
>>101790608
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/EveryoneIsJesusInPurgatory
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>>101789772
This reminds me of what I thought this would be when I first picked it up.
I was thinking that it was some supernatural horror thing set in a high school.
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>>101790487


They represent old man penis and how Chitanda will inevitably come to love it because Oreki was indecisive
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>>101790664
>tvtropes
Fuck off if you can't articulate your thoughts on your own.
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>>101790650
Didn't the director say he won't animate Hyouka anymore or some shit like that? I don't think there'll be another one even if you dream really hard.
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>>101790711
Why should I bother to write something if it's already been written and covered thoroughly?
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>>101790710
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>>101790732
To show that you aren't stupid and just parroting things you've read somewhere.
Basically it would've been more than enough to say something like "You guys really are overthinking this, the entire purpose of those mushrooms is to look pretty.
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>>101790732
If it's not broken fix it.
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>>101790487
The big mushrooms represent Oreki and Chitanda as a couple, and the two little ones represent their cute little children from that really good fanart.

No, I doubt that there's any meaning to them.
But it's possible.
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If I could moonrune the first thing I'd do is read the LN that didn't get adapted.
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>>101790487


I think they're just mushrooms man
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>>101790865
Mushrooms that represent Chitand and Oreki's future family, yes.
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>>101790865
That's what I suspect.

The reason I asked the question was because I thought there might be SOMETHING significant about them since it's the very last shot. But it's probably just meant to be pretty.
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>>101790865
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kj52ehArrD4
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Alright, someone write a crossover where the SOS brigade meets the classics club and Haruhi and Oreki have hate sex after Kyon and Chitanda, who were quite taken with each other upon their first meeting, go on a date.
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>>101790934
>Kyon and Chitanda
She'd be as much of a nuisance for him as Haruhi.
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>>101790925
> I thought there might be SOMETHING significant about them since it's the very last shot
S2 will obviously be about sentient mutant mushrooms trying to take over the planet by infecting people with spores to manipulate their thoughts and actions.
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>>101789611
I know right? Should've end with the best girl.
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>>101790980
>Empress
>better than ZA FURU
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>>101790980
We just went from shipping faggotry to shipping wars faggotry.
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>>101789611
Meanwhile, in Haruhi Suzumiya, after 6 episodes ...
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>>101791002
Who is the better tsundere, Kyon or Oreki?
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>>101790931


Actually looks like a good game

>those crazy ass looking killer rabbits

Jesus christ how horrifying
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>>101791031
Kyon all the way. The justification of his Tsundere attitude is much better than "hurr i want to conserve energy nooo i dont want to solve mystery". His growing relationship with Haruhi is deeper than Oreki and Chitanda and he has a full movie to go full introspection during 3 hours.
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>>101790253
>that height difference
And Oreki isn't that tall to start with.

Mayaka confirmed midget.
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>>101791031
That's hard man. Oreki make my dick hard, so I'll go with him
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>>101791002
Kyon didnt have much of a choice, considering the fact that a GOD with huge mental ans self issues is about to break the very fabric of reality and rework it to Haruhi knows what
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>>101790931
Graphics straight out of a gen one PSP game.
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>>101791108
This. I was glad to see Oreki change because constantly repeating that catchphrase was getting on my nerves.
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>>101791115
I'd do Oreki with his bed hair. No homo.
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>>101791031
Kyon, because Oreki is too lazy to Tsun or Dere.
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>>101790487
That's just KyoAni fetish for detail
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>>101791108
Oreki's character isn't really so much about that. He tries to act like he's above it all, but really he's just hiding a huge insecurity. He's constantly afraid that he's not going to live up to everyone's expectations of him, so he does everything he can to prevent them from forming expectations to begin with. The laziness was (mostly) just a cover for this.
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Oreki seems like he'd be the worst boyfriend. He wouldn't want to do anything, would always look apathetic, probably has no idea how to show affection.

Chitanda deserves better than that.
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>>101791232
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>>101791232
Yeah but only he can satisfy her curiosity with his dick
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>>101789611
And this is why Hyouka is one of the worst shit ever made by kyoanus.
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>>101791356
I would hold her hand so hard.
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>>101791232
>Chitanda deserves better than that
Arranged marriage to some rich dude from an important family.
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>>101791111
Maybe not over here, but Oreki is pretty tall for a nip.
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>>101790261
That's what I got from watching it too, but "make the ending you want" is pretty silly, sure I can make up my own happy ending for them but if I'm making up the ending for myself then why don't I make my own story? I want to be told a story that someone else (somsone who's a better story teller than I) wrote, one where I have to deal with all the ups and downs the characters go through and don't just pass it all off as "I think they lived happily ever after."
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>>101791468
Chuuni was worse. It didn't have any closure to begin with.
And then nothing happened in the OVA. And now S2 is just a whole heap of pussyfooting around the relationship and nothing happening.
Status quo for eternity.
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>>101791507

You do realise there is another LN past were the anime ends right

And most likely another one coming out this year

Its not over
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>>101791540
It's heavily implied they've been fucking every day since they moved in together though. They just are embarrassed in front of other people.
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>>101791548
I was just addressing the points raised in what he posted.
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>>101791507
>why don't I make my own story?
The point here is that what needed to be tell is done. Do what you want with the rest.
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>>101791579
lolwut
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>>101791621
Do you even watch the show? Why do you think the Priestess was so absconded when she found out they were living together?
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>>101791579
>Rikka turns up to school pregnant
>they still haven't kissed yet
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>>101791657
Hint it's not Utah's child
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>>101791540
No, Chuuni had lots of closure.

Then they re-opened it again.
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>>101791640
It's Japan.
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>>101791507
I agree Chitanda should have died in the end
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>>101791657
KyoAni's been holding it over our heads for so long that there'll be a shitstorm if they actually do it.
Not keeping my hopes up.
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>>101791640
She wants the D for herself.
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Do you just go and kiss all your female friends when barely knowing them?

It's called subtlety.
Not every human relationship is fast-paced and you have sex within a few months of knowing somebody
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>>101791657
It's not that uncommon in Japan for couples to fuck for a long time before they even kiss. Just look at Tsumugu's route in Ikikoi, they fucked for weeks but didn't kiss until the very end when she was hella drunk. Pretty sure I've seen a bunch of eroge that were the same way, so I doubt it's that uncommon.
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>>101791640
>absconded
What?
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>>101791822
You know, like taken aback.
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>>101791753
And it does make sense for their relationship to progress slowly because of they're complete opposites. Oreki is slow to change, and getting in a relationship with her would mean completely abandoning his old values and crossing over to a "rose colored" life.
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>>101789772
>He hasn't seen Haruhi
What are you doing?
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>>101791002
>6 episodes
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>>101791548
>LN
It's an actual novel.
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>>101792026
Hyouka is an LN series and what the author did before writing actual mystery novels.
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Why isn't this a thing?
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>>101792098
I wish it was. They had hella good chemistry, he just always considered her off-limits because she was his best friends sister I guess.
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>>101792098


Because worst girl
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>>101792098
Because shipping like that is disgusting.
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I liked the ending

But s2 never
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>>101792271
Because no source material.
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>>101791712
Don't worry
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>>101792271
Whydon't thye din't make up their own ending
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>>101792192
>best friends sister

what
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>WAHHHHHH WHY DIDN'T THEY KISS.
Not everything needs a romance ending, The ending was fine and topped it off.
Everyone wants a romance in every damn show.
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>>101791978
>Watching it out of order
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>>101792331
Because KyoAni writing is shit and it would ruin Hyouka.
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>>101792343
Talking about Mayaka.
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>>101789611
Tamako Love Market or whatever is coming out soon. Now imagine how buttdevestated everyone will be if nothing happens.
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>>101792365

>Mayaka
>Sister
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>>101789611
Oddly enough I literally just finished watching Hyouka.

If you're the type of person who can't pay attention to characters that act like people instead of walking archetypes, and who develop subtly this might not be the show for you.

There was always a dozen things happening between the main plot, the character development, visual metaphors and screen composition being used to convey emotions and thoughts instead of shitty dialog only exposition. If you think at any point that "Nothing is happening" you missed the whole point of the show and might want to try something else.
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>>101792365
Mayaka isn't Satoshi's sister.
It would be a bit strange her to confess to him otherwise.
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>>101791687
No, the first season's ending had no closure whatsoever. It put out a resolution to the storyline but offered no closure in terms of the characters or their relationships. They're not the same thing, and both of those are important to an ending.
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>>101792350
it's fine not to have romance in every show, but they actually had romance in the show so it only stands to reason that there's some conclusion to it.
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>>101792357
Watching in broadcast order is just needlessly confusing. There are plenty of shows that actually pull a jumbled chronology like that and manage to still make sense and feel like that is how they were really meant to be experienced, but I don't think Haruhi is one of them.
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>>101792401
She didn't confess to him, did she? She just tried to give him candy but he didn't want it.
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>>101792399
The characters are walking archetypes though, which together make up what makes a good detective
Satoshi is the memory, Chitanda is the curiosity, Oreki is the deduction and Mayaka is the personality.
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>>101792098
They hated each other. If it breaks canon then it's it's just delusional fanart.
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>>101792448

Did you even watch the show
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this will never be canon
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>>101792415
I watched in both orders, wasn't really worth it, only noticed a few things that lined up in the different order.
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>>101792455
That's going a little far. Mayaka originally found Oreki annoying but she warmed up to him pretty early on, they just teased each other a lot.
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>>101792455
>they hated each other

[citation needed]
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>>101792477
Why are nips so good at drawing
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>>101792455
I bet you're the kind of person who thinks everyone hates them.
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>>101792313
What are the novels that appeared in the ED?
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>>101789611
>Japan in charge of romance.

Could as well ask a Rhino to use chopsticks.
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>>101792399
What happened wasn't enough. That's what people usually mean.
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>>101792455
>he hasn't read the novels
The entire reason Mayaka even started dating Satoshi was because she thought it would bring her closer to Oreki. She dumps him in the latest novel and confesses to Oreki but he turns her down, mostly because he feels like it would be betraying his friend. Satoshi still hates him for it though.
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>>101792477
>Chitanda and Oreki's daughter
My God.
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>>101792477
I can't believe how well the artist recreated the style and Kyoani design. It honestly looks like it came from the anime (besides the backgrounds).
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>>101792576

>She dumps him in the latest novel and confesses to Oreki but he turns her down, mostly because he feels like it would be betraying his friend

This is a lie right

Right?
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>>101792576
Jesus dude, spoiler that shit, we have spoilers for a reason.
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>>101792576
I don't speak moonrunes so I couldn't care less. Also fuck you for spoilers.
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>>101792576


Goddamn it must be pure suffering being Satoshi
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>>101792609
>>101792614
>coming in these threads if you haven't read the novels
Serves you right.
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>>101792637

>implying i speak moon
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Does Oreki just like lie a fish on the bed during sex?
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>>101792637
There is no translation you miserable sod.
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>>101792451
Those are the jobs, not their personalities.

I loved the movie arc where up until that point they made Oreki out to be the super brain only to show you the other 3 played an important part of making the "perfect detective". The way he was fooled and subsequently failed did loads for his character. I was even a little disappointed to see how competent he was afterwards.
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>>101792531
The one right there was "Lord Edgeware Dies".
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>>101792614
>>101792627
>complaining about spoilers for something you'll most likely never see or read
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>>101792576

Thats just sad

I thought this wouldn't turn to harem shit but i guess not
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>>101792677
You are literally worse than Hitler.
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>>101792552
And if you thought what happened wasn't enough, then you literally missed most of what was going on.
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>>101792677
Well I want to read it now that you spoiled me on that, asshole.
It's not true, right?
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Hyouka end a shit
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>>101790676
That's Another, minus the cooking.
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>>101792637
You're doing it wrong.
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>>101792576

>mostly because he feels like it would be betraying his friend

So not because he loves Chitanda
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>>101792675
There's also a shitload of Holmes in there... the author must be one huge fan of mystery.
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>>101792576


Does >>101790980 ever end up wanting his dick?
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>>101792753
He still refuses to fully admit that he does, but during that confession scene he mostly just felt bad for Satoshi, rather than it being about "I would but I like Chitanda more".
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>>101792677
I'm getting there, slowly but surely.
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>>101792576
LN readers, is this true?
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>>101792673
>I loved the movie arc where up until that point they made Oreki out to be the super brain only to show you the other 3 played an important part of making the "perfect detective". The way he was fooled and subsequently failed did loads for his character. I was even a little disappointed to see how competent he was afterwards.
Eh, the issue is it wasn't lacking the others that made him fail so bad. It was that he fell for praise set up by his sister, who understood exactly what to do to mess with his head and cause him not to think things through.
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>>101792715
lel, there's no need to act like a cunt. Might as well spam 2deep4u if you have nothing to say.
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>>101792710
Assuming that he's not lying, the saddest part is that it would continue Satoshi's feelings of inferiority to Oreki.
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>>101792098
Too wild of a pairing for Kyoani to handle.
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>>101789772
If Hyouka is an amusing luncheon in the garden,
Haruhi will be a five-course banquet.

Both shows are good, but the metanarritive of Haruhi is where the beef of the series lies.
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>>101792843

How long untill he snaps and kills Oreki
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>>101792734
Is Another not shit?
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>>101792350
Weren't you one of those faggots during Galilei Donna?
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>>101792768
I thought they attend the same college. Must've been wrong though, I don't even remember where I read that.
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>>101792843
Satoshi deserved better than that.
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>>101792576
THIS IS BAIT RIGHT?
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>>101792677


Stop rubbing salt in the wound dude.
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>>101792843
It kind of acts like the final nail in the coffin in that regard. He's hit pretty hard by the whole thing. Pretty much goes into full despair mode as a result. I wouldn't be surprised if he attempts suicide in the next novel or something.
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>>101792477
Thank god. This world doesn't need such travesty.
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Suddenly I'm happy there is no second season of Hyouka.
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>>101792350
Why even go there then?
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>>101792576
Damn, now I want a S2 even more. I have to see this shit animated, /a/ is gonna flip its shit.
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10 seconds on Google is all it takes to find out what the latest novel is about and that the spoilers are bullshit.

Let's not even mention how wildly out of character it would be and how much it would fly in the face of the entire Valentines Day episode.
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>>101792576
Not surprising. Satoshi's kind of a pathetic when it comes down to it. Oreki lacks motivation a lot of the time, but at least he's talented.

Satoshi has energy, but even that's completely undirected and ultimately results in no achievements. He's not got much going for him.
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>>101792937
And it all started with some innocent fanart.
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>>101792937
This all happens within the last couple of chapters leading into the cliffhanger at the end of the book, of course it's not going to be mentioned in the official summaries.
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>>101792916
>S2
If you ever suffer from insomnia again, you'll just have to rewatch S1.
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>>101792576

But that just doesn't even make sense

>Finally start dating Satoshi
>lel jk i love Oreki really

S2 never please
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>>101792823
Oh I'm well aware the manipulation was his downfall (it was Ibisu that tripped him up by outright telling him how special he was) but I just liked how it showed he wasn't a one man act.
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>>101791755
Yes, eroge are a completely accurate representation of real Japanese relationships.
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GET
GUD
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>>101793023
>>>/dsg/
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>>101789611
>Oreki moves in to confess
>SUDDENLY OUT OF FUCKING NOWHERE, Chitanda's rich athletic BOYFRIEND pulls up in a convertible and makes a wisecrack about how good she was last night
>She laughs, then hops in and kisses him
>Together, they tease Oreki for being too lazy
>Speed off to going mountain-climbing together
>Series ends with Oreki staring at the dustcloud

This was the original ending but the test audiences didn't like it for some reason. Weird, huh?
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>>101793006
>it was Ibisu that tripped him up by outright telling him how special he was
She was just following his sister's script. The whole arc was actually his sister messing with him for fun.
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>>101792576
This is a lie.
A lie.
And Mayaka was shown to have some interest in Satoshi before. Like, in grade school.
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>>101793012
I honestly can't tell if that guy is being sarcastic or not. My little /a/non can't be this stupid.
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>>101792869
there is a mistery that they never solve, they just leave it for others.
The only one who could do something does it at the very last moment where it didnt really matter much anymore.
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>>101792973
I hate how stupid people here have gotten.

>>101792976
Except it wasn't an official description, but people who read it discussing it. And as I said, let's ignore how much it wouldn't make sense.

I'm not fluent in moon, but I can read a bit. Please post the page where Ibara confesses to Oreki and I'll be happy to verify if you're telling the truth.
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>>101793045
>test audiences
Those weren't /a/
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>>101792576
I like Mayaka, but if this true then she's undoubtedly worst girl.
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>>101792576
>people actually falling for this
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This show was good. The ending was memorable. If not a bit trollish.

And for all you fools saying good writting demand "clousure", empirical studies have actually shown that open ended storilines tend to be favour by viewers. Google it for all I care.
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>>101792576
I wish.
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>>101793052
>The whole arc was actually his sister messing with him for fun.
She does that a lot, but Ibisu was still the one whose special way with words and persuasion got him.

On that note, the only issue I have with the series is that these characters are way too interesting and well developed for high school kids. They are all so clever and have such amazing planning skills (especially Orekis sister who is admittedly a bit older) and their inner monologs or true feelings are way beyond what you'd expect of kids that age. They're just too serious and interesting.

That said, it'd be boring and wouldn't be nearly as nuanced and well written otherwise, and the fact that in the movie arc they commented on how sometimes characters just need to do things to captivate the audience made me laugh.
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>>101793134
Remember when Chitanda was going to the USA.
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>>101793045
I want to see a series end exactly like this just to see how many otaku commit suicide.
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>>101793045
Make the boyfriend a gaijin and it's 10/10
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>>101793136
I'm not just a fucking statistic though. Also it should be your priority to tell a story rather than to try to appeal to the largest percentage of viewers.
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>>101793182
You mean Mexico.
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>>101793193


Make him black for a 15/10
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>>101793045
>Boyfriend is voiced by Tomokazu Seki hamming it up with his absolute best Gilgamesh voice
This would be glorious.
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>>101792576
12/10

Bravo. *claps*
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>>101793136
But favour from viewers doesn't equal good writing.

Regardless I agree with your point that closure isn't always necessary for a good story.
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>>101793045
>convertible
Fucking tryhard white kids.
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>>101793197
>I am not a statistic
yes you are
> it should be your priority to tell a story rather than to try to appeal to the largest percentage of viewers.
Welcome to capitalism son.
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>>101793181
Fictional characters aren't supposed to be perfect representations of real world people. It'd be fucking boring if they were.
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>>101793259
>He doesn't like the feeling of the wind
You're missing out.
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>>101793244
I was taken in for a bit, but now that I think about it, it doesn't make sense and would be unnecessarily cruel if true.
It's still made me want to read the novels though.
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>>101793323
To be fair though, as over the top and "too" interesting as they are they're still more "real" than a vast majority of anime characters. The fact that they have complex emotions and change over time, not with huge "THIS IS WHAT I LEARNED!" speeches but actual subtle character development makes them better characters than most.
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>>101793364
They make bikes for that.
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>tfw LN 5 translation never

:_:
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>>101793181
Can you fixed that "Ibisu". It's Irisu.
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>>101793259
Make it a motorcycle then.
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>>101793406
I'm not going to change it because I don't think anyone new will read it, but thank you for pointing it out so I don't make the same mistake again.
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>>101793319
Quality argument.
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>>101790199
>Plus, it sets up for a second season

it does absolutely nothing of the sort. If anything, with that finale, it sets up that any sequel would be pointless without a completely different narrative approach
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>>101790227
> its implied

its not implied its explicit
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>>101793487
It's not a cliffhanger by any means. The story could completely end there and that would be enough.

There is still more material though and there is still plenty of development left to be had for the characters.
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>>101793181
Well for Oreki his abilities to be expected since he's basically a genius. But he does show some of the immaturity of a high schooler even if he's ridiculously smart, as do the other characters.
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>>101790710
>They represent old man penis and how Chitanda will inevitably come to love it because Oreki was indecisive

for fucks sake this. I am sick and tired of japanese media depicting indecision as bearing no consequences. indecision bears consequences and being naive enough to delay things and stay indecisive is going to cost you
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Is Irisu a virgin?
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>>101793623
She's a miko, so buttsex only.
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>>101793487
It certainly doesn't confirm a second season, but I could easily see more arcs happen after that. I'm just saying that the way it ended makes it possible for them to smoothly continue the series.
Plus, the series DOES continue after that, it just hasn't been adapted.
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>>101791879
>Oreki is slow to change

>and getting in a relationship with her would mean completely abandoning his old values and crossing over to a "rose colored" life.

thats exactly what happened at the last episode and/or through the entire series. thats change in a few months.
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>>101793611
But this story actually progressed at a normal, human pace. Oreki's change from gray to rose was radical, it completely changed his life. And it was all because of Chitanda. That's serious stuff especially when you take into account he's ready to accept her and all of her flaws and spend his whole life with her.
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That episode near the end when they go to the library together was fucking perfect. It could have ended there for all I care.
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What i thought was the best aspect was just watching how Oreki deals with Chitanda

At the start whenever he's asked to do anything he declines and argues against it

But the last episode he agrees to travel god only knows how manly miles and use his precious day off to go and help her. And he does it without a seconds hesitation
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>>101793708
What I think the final scene with him looking at Chitanda means that he's not quite ready to abandon his old values, but he feels a strong pull towards that sort of lifestyle that he can't ignore as much as he might want to. Despite, that, he's still indecisive and not ready to fully commit to something different than how he's lived for so long.
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>>101793857
Really? It was good for showing their relationship but it wasn't very interesting to me.
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>>101793857
Seeing Oreki get interested, and having it be about something as somber as his teacher's friend (or maybe lover) dying was great. Very heavy message there how he refused to be misinformed about that because "he definitely doesn't like helicopters". It was the perfect "human" touch for Oreki.
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>you will never meet your Chitanda to save you from NEETdom and laziness

What's even the point of living
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>>101793867
Congratulations, you've managed to follow literally the most basic element of the narrative.

Still though, you're leagues ahead of some of the shitposters.
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>>101793926
Oreki was curious about something himself and showed the product of his character development.. No one got in the way between the two of them. it was great. Teasing me in the episode 22 with what "could have been" only left me agitated.
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>>101794057
That's because she isn't real and never will be because people like her don't exist.
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>>101794057
I'm neither smart nor I can solve girl's problems so what's the fucking point?
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>>101794159
They exist, just the chances of her beating down your door and dragging you into the real world are slim to none. You have to do things for yourself.
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2 full seasons for this!

THIS!
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>>101794292

>Not liking Working
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>>101794292
Are you hating on Working!! ?

I'll fight you.
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>>101794328
Not him but I love working, just not shitty shits like her
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>>101792576
Oh you fucking liar. 5th novel is about Oreki running in marathon. Mayaka was never into him.
>>101792768
No
>>101792815
It's not even a LN
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>>101794387

But Inami is best girl
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>>101794328
>>101794337
I love working. The OP (of the thread) is just dumb
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>>101794416

>Oreki running in marathon
>Oreki
>Running
>Running a marathon
>Oreki

This is bait right
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>>101794416
>5th novel is about Oreki running in marathon.
Now this seems like one big and stinky lie alright. But I'll go with it.
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>>101794476
I'd much rather believe it than the one that other guy said.
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>>101794416
>me
>running
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>>101792609
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>>101792633
>>101792710
>>101792753
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>>101793119
All these retards believing in fake spoiler
WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU, /a/
Kotenbu series has even less romantic elements than anime.
Mayaka was never into Oreki, nori Irisu, IT'S NOT GENERIC LN WHERE ALL GIRLS WANT MC'S DICK
>>101794465
>>101794476
>>101794613
Look at chapter titles, dipshits
https://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Hyouka
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>>101794614
please stop posting!
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>>101794700

Calm down son
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>>101794700
>Oreki running a 20km marathon

Looks like the author is as bad as the troll.
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>>101790078
Everybody reposts that paragraph with super DEEP insight and I'll be surprised if anyone read it. It's just full on rationalization.

No, the ending was neither satisfying nor conclusive. Why? Because the story isn't fucking finished yet. Stop acting like it was a proper ending.

Imagine if I took a novel, ripped out half of the pages and said "THIS IS HOW IT WAS MEANT TO BE READ".
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>>101794719
No u

>>101794700
It happens right after Chitanda gets knocked up in Mexico. Trust me, my dad works at Kadokawa.
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>>101794804
Maybe he just walks the entire thing.
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>>101794940

>walking 12 miles

Have fun walking for about 5 hours
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>>101793181

All fictional detectives must have an older sibling that surpasses them. Of course Oreki's sister would be like that.
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>>101794809
Maybe if you had actually read that paragraph you would understand that "the story goes on" is the whole point of that ending.
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>>101789611
Cry more, faggot.
>>101793045
Let's not ruin Hyouka with that, it never was a shitty harem/romance.
I wish to see a harem with this end.
>>101792576
I wonder how many neckbeard neets have raged reading this. Good job.
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>>101794969
>miles
>>101794804
If you're not a fat fuck it's not hard at all, a monthly training should be enough.
I started running this summer and I have a very low bodyfat index. You'll see huge improvements in a short period of time if you're constant.
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>>101795354

>being an ameriblob
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>>101794809
>No, the ending was neither satisfying nor conclusive.
>The only way to be satisfying is to completely shut out any future possibility of development
>Having major progress presented in a beautiful way doesn't count
You're a retard.
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>>101795397
Wut.
I said I have a very low bodyfat index.
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>>101795013
You know what? You're absolutely right.

Still, her knowledge and ability to manipulate people and predict their behavior is unreal. Look at how much happened because she gave him a pen and a manga. That's insane.
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>>101795537

Cause no one had ever lied on the internet right
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>>101794614
At last.
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>>101795568
Why would I lie about that?
I'll post a pic with timestamp when I go home, if you're so paranoid. I'm 1,70m for 63Kg. Shouldn't I be lying about my heigth too, following your reasoning?
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>>101795730
You're lying because little girls don't reach more than 150 cm.
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>>101795730
No one cares about how much you weigh you stupid fucker.
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If I went too fast it would hurt my knees, and I’d pick up speed easier going downhill anyway. If you don’t remember to pace yourself properly during this 20 kilometer course, you won’t be able to make it back before sunset.

With that in mind I chose to concentrate on running downhill.

However, those really strange words of Ibara’s, that she said belonged to Oohinata, were still going around and around inside my head.

Deity-like.

I felt something cold in that auspicious noun, and as the hill became steeper, the meaning of the word I was contemplating remained elusive.

The downhill slope made another large curve. The male student overtaking me gained too much momentum and widened the gap between us. I trod on with seemingly small steps. While thinking, I heard the continuously sparse sound of footsteps on asphalt from the Kamiyama High students surrounding me.

Somehow, with the zig-zagging path of the course, the curving road bent and opened up the view directly across from me. I could still see the snow that had fallen on the various mountains of the Kamikakiuchi Mountain Range. The cold winter wind would probably not blow from that direction, but I felt a sudden chill in the air.

Earlier, Satoshi had gone on ahead on his mountain bike, and Ibara had left as well. In order to let Chitanda catch up, I had to adjust my speed a bit.

With the bottom of the hill becoming even, I immediately relaxed my feet.

I have no memory of having a long talk face-to-face with Oohinata. However, with Oohinata taking advantage of Club Recruitment, perhaps a single something that was previously unthinkable happened. And assuming that a problem occurred concerning Oohinata’s relationship with Chitanda, it could very well have been a big deal.

I don’t want to remember much about that day. What I’m saying is, it’s not as if chills were going down my spine, but even now, I can feel a kind of lingering impatience.

It was clear on that day, on that weekend.
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>>101796137
What is this shit?
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>>101796424
Oreki running the marathon you retard.
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>>101795522
>>The only way to be satisfying is to completely shut out any future possibility of development
lol i totally said that, thanks for quoting it
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I think we can all agree that episode 17 was the best episode.
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>>101796779
End of festival? If so then yes.
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>>101796880
Yes, it's the end of the festival, and where this happens.
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> people hating Hyouka ending
Plebs
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>>101797902
That fucking Oreki face.
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>>101798220
>not hating every part of Hyouka that is not the School Festival Arc
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>>101795971
He cared, faggot.
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>>101799190
Stay a pleb with ADD.
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>>101799190
I hate the festival.
Festival is for plebs.
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>>101796779
Was that the one with the cooking?
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>>101789772
Another
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>>101799322
I loved the whole thing, each part had its own merits.
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>>101800523
Compared to the other parts it was boring.
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>>101800641
It focused more on creating a living breathing environment than most other parts did, so there wasn't quite as much focus on characters (still plenty there) but the big colorful changing world they interacted with was enough to hold my interest,
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>>101799512
No. See:
>>101797135
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>>101800756
I liked the movie part the better, I was hugely butthurted by that end. It was very good.
Damn, how much do I want to hate-rape the empress.
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>>101800905
>I liked the movie part the better,
I can't believe more people don't reference it when talking about the show. It had the first mystery I couldn't solve instantly, it had tons of characterization and development, the commentary on how to make a movie was great (good meta stuff there), as someone who grew up reading Sherlock Holmes I could appreciate the discussion of entry level mystery fans, and seeing Oreki get knocked down was glorious. On top of that it was filled to the brim with the visual metaphors and great cinematography I love the series for and the darker atmosphere was nice.

Like I said, I don't know why it isn't more talked about.
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>>101789611

Here, I don't know why it hasn't been posted yet.
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>>101789709
>I don't like what happens
>it's shit writing
Learn the difference. Though, of course, the latter makes it sound as if you actually have a point instead of just having shit taste.
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>>101792869
The first half or so is good, has a nice athmosphere, but then it kinda falls apart.
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>>101801019
Yeah, I'm with you.
If you like Sherlock Holmes you should really read the Auguste Dupin tales by Poe.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C._Auguste_Dupin
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>>101801620
I really want to read the Christie stuff they talked about as being a "true mystery fan" story. I'll take a look at that stuff by Poe too. Thanks.
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>>101801657
It's just three short tales, read them today, seriously, it's the beginning of the genre.
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>>101801719
How long will it take?

I'm on an all nighter now studying for grad school exams so I'd rather read them with a clear head so I'll do it tomorrow at some point.
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>>101801776
http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/The_Murders_in_the_Rue_Morgue

http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/The_Mystery_of_Marie_Rog%C3%AAt

http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/The_Purloined_Letter

I can't really do more than this.
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>>101802019
Sorry for the spoonfeeding but my brain isn't working now. I'll read them all after I've had a good nights sleep.
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>>101802154
Sure. Just do it.
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I'll never get the hate for Hyuoka.
I know the usual
>muh misteries
>muh lazyness
but the misteries are what make the series different, they're not "saving the world" and usual shounen stages.
Regarding Oreki's lazyness I aggree, it's stupid but kinda felt it fitted.

As for the series conclusion, this dude
>>101790261 quoting
>This is not the end of the story, they're first-graders, spring has begun...
knows his shit
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>>101789611
And how do you feel?
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>>101802238
Yes sir.

Hopefully I'll be able to discuss them in some Hyouka thread that isn't started with shitposting.

Does Hyouka draw many obvious inspirations from these or are they pure mystery?
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>>101789611
oh hey I finished this last night too.

was fantastic
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>>101802788
>It has been recognized as the first detective story;[1][2] Poe referred to it as one of his "tales of ratiocination".[1] Two works that share some similarities predate Poe's stories, including Das Fräulein von Scuderi (1819) by E.T.A. Hoffmann[3] and Zadig (1747) by Voltaire.[4]
>Writing the first true detective in fiction, Poe's Dupin originated many literary conventions which would be used in future fictional detectives including Sherlock Holmes and Hercule Poirot. Many later characters, for example, follow Poe's model of the brilliant detective, his personal friend who serves as narrator, and the final revelation being presented before the reasoning that leads up to it.
It's all the reasoning stuff, the way it's narrated and the kind of mysteries. It started it all.
Sometimes smoking opium leads to great things.
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>>101802248
The fact that he needed to mention his laziness and even repeat some sort of motto instantly killed it for me in the first episodes. But I forgave KyoAni because he never mentioned it again.

>>101802788
>Does Hyouka draw many obvious inspirations from these or are they pure mystery?
Kind of. For example, the phrase "Why didn't she ask EBA?" appears in the movie arc every episode, and is a reference to Christie's "Why didn't they ask Evans?".
But I guess the real inspiration, which is quite obvious, is for Kudryavka's Order, which is based on The A.B.C Murders, also Christie's.
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>>101789857
Wow, what the fuck are you even talking about?
It's exactly like it is in the books.
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looks like they have plenty material to work with, they should have a S2.
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>>101803232
>It's all the reasoning stuff, the way it's narrated and the kind of mysteries. It started it all.
I'm a big fan of the deductive reasoning stuff, looking forward to that.

>>101803293
>which is based on The A.B.C Murders, also Christie's.
I'm really looking forward to reading this.
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>>101803619
>plenty of material to work with
>1 novel
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>>101803673
Also, the way Oreki solves the "mystery" of the movie kinda reminded me of "The Murder of Roger Ackroyd", which is also a pretty great Christie.
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>>101793401
The guy, Kinny Riddle, was so good at it. What happened?
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>>101803795
That's another one for the list.
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>>101803773
if I ask nicely do you think they'll do it?
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http://hyouka-rangers.tumblr.com/tagged/trans%3A-kotenbu-5

>tumblr
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>>101804007
>2 chapters
Post it again when they're done with the whole thing.
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>>101790865
>>101790487
What kind of shitty ass mushrooms does your country have?
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WHY ISN'T SHE REAL

WHY
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>>101805136
Hey man, it's better than nothing.
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>>101805638
Indian pipes?
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>>101805816
>fetish
Because then she'd be in 3 dimensions and by definition, inferior.
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>>101806581
>and by definition, inferior.
Fuck that last dimension.
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>Chitanda
>Not curious
>Ever
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>>101796137
This, this is why I'd like to learn Nipponese.
Oreki & Marathon just does not fit into a same sentence, I'd like to read it so much.
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>>101789611
I came here to call you a shipperfag.



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