Nobunaga the Fool thread.
Episode 06 airs in 5 hours and 2 minutes.
Funeral episode edition ;_;7
Mitsu did nothing wrong!
Reminder to never bind your tits
Sadness: the episode.
I wish they could just skip all that boring mourning shit.
Maybe it won't be that long.
I wonder how Nobunaga will stand up to both Shingen and Ceasar, they need another Western Mecha on their side, the Eastern one are completely useless.
ED shows them with two of them also don't forget they might have to deal with Uesagi who was a War Armor
More soon. Maybe Kenshin will help him, or he will just use more Regalia.
Quote of the Day - Leonardo da Vinci - "All our knowledge has its origins in our perceptions."
Nobunaga will show them the true power of superior japanese steel which has been folded over a thousand times.
I thought Mitsu did nothing wrong the last episode, He saved Nobunaga skin, Do people think he did something wrong?
I would've preferred it if Charlemagne was the king of the start of the west, King Arthur is probably a mythic person anyway.
King Arthur will be a girl.
>Do people think he did something wrong?
I hope Kenshin help him, he's suppose to be rival to Takeda afterall.
Glorious nippon katana.
>Glorious nippon katana.
She'll also win Nobunaga.
>tfw Ceasar will never win the princess
Is the broadcast delayed?
It's his fault, he killed her father.
Whoever King Arthur will be, Arthur will be the ultimate jobber
No one cares about this show anymore?
Episode is delayed.
Himiko is dead... what the hell?
Nobukatsu too. Wow.
Man, that episode went by so fast.
Damn delays, I missed it.
>2 minutes long episode
You didn't, cc didn't stream it.
No episode next week because Olympics.
That's actually a good thing. Death is preferable to suffering.
But will it stick?
Who the hell cares about the Olympics? Especially the winter ones. No one in my city that is for sure.
HOOOOLY SHIIITT THE SHOTA AND THE LOLI ARE DEATH!
>killing the triangle this early
I hope that's not true.
Picked back up!
No wait, this might be a ruse. Better wait until next episode and see if she stays death
2chan thread? Fuck, I hope they will not kill my Himiko.
Fuck this shit, he was the best character. Dropped so hard.
He was boring.
He was such a good boy, and loved his family so much. Perfect son.
They rellay did it. FUCK THIS SHIT, I LOVED HIMIKO, YOU BASTARDS!
Streamin in cc in 15 minutes
Why does Kawamori hates lolis and shotas so much? He always makes them suffer even more than greens.
>himiko is dead
What the fuck Kawamori.
This can't be, you don't put in the OP as a main character someones that dies in 5 episodes.
>you don't put in the OP as a main character someones that dies in 5 episodes.
She no longer has to suffer losing to Jeanne. You should be happy for her.
Trust me, anon. This is a ruse. She's actually alive. You'll see.
Guys watch the stream if you want to see it happening
She was shot through the chest.
I wish I can, but I have to watch a shitty 3DPD show with a friend.
Too good to be truth
TWO WEEKS WAITING FOR NEXT EPISODE
So are all anime going to get pushed back a week?
Guess it depends on the channel they're airing on.
Only nobunaga, saki, seki
I hope both of them stay dead. It pisses me off when asspulls make people survive.
Himiko will suffer less if she is dead anyway.
Who is Lieselotte?
Himiko was literally the only reason to watch this show everything else is so bad.
Himiko was worst girl. I'm glad she's dead.
Man those Kunoichi are incompetent.
Thank you, faggot. Now go home.
I'm enjoying your tears too much.
>Himiko is dead.
Huh. I guess she wasn't as important as I thought she would be. The question is: what purpose did she serve? Make Nobunaga aware of loss? Wasn't his little brother better for that role?
No really, why was she in the show, then?
Give him the magic stone of magic.
Made Jeanne jealous and gave him a magic stone.
It was a ruse to make us think she was going to be important
>Himiko dying to save Nobunaga
>Jeanne doing shit
Wow, such a glorious heroine.
FUCK YOU KAWAMORI!
If you actually see the real promotions of the show, it usually has Nobu, monkey, Mitsu and Jeanne.
>Nobu being an ass at his father's funeral
Some things are staying true to history it seems.
But man those Kunoichi's suck at their job.
Hell Jeanne spotted them before they did.
Yeah when the dumb farm girl does a better job at noticing people than you something has gone wrong.
We gonna see the dance in that case?
Waiting for subs is suffering.
The...the dance. I can't remember its name. Atsusomething. He danced to the beat of a drum singing some song before a major battle.
Please, tell me she will live again, /a/, please ;_;
If it wasn't a shot to the chest with blood everywhere one could think they were going for a deceptive cliffhanger, but that isn't the case.
>Best girl dead
You better be trolling me.
>Nobunaga goes dramatic again.
I don't know whether this is ridiculous or just plain boring. Either way, it's unconvincing.
They can still save her ;_;
Nah, that was him raging under a waterfall over his father before Himiko was shot.
People are trolling. She's not dead yet. Her fate was left on a cliffhanger. Very unlikely she'll die in the next episode or anytime soon. But if she does though, I'll going to be dropping this show as well.
HAHA BEST GIRL WON BY DEFAULT
Fuck off, frog.
>Liking worst girl
Maybe Jeanne's regalia has healing powers or something, I don't see how she can survive a shot to the chest. Would be one thing if they didn't show the wound and blood pouring out.
Am I figuratively speaking the only one enjoying this show for reasons outside of shipping? No one seems to be talking about it and some just plain hate it. Im finding it pretty awesome so far.
Jeanne a shit.
>watching a show for one character
Absolutely disgusting. Just drop it now and never return.
I like it. Sucks for Himiko but if she dies then a lot of the shipping talk will vanish, I liked her and Jeanne's bantering this episode though.
I like it too, but Himiko was my favorite part of the show.
yes, /v/ only you are retarded enough to like this trash
>if she dies then a lot of the shipping talk will vanish
Himiko is my favorite character, but I'm not shipping her with the MC. So, yeah.
Would have been nice if she wasn't introduced as a love interest.
No, I like it just because of how ridiculous it seems.
>expecting girls to not be love interest in non homo shows...
But I agree with you, it would be nice to have more relevant girls not lusting after MCs' D in my animus.
I'll have to disagree. Part of charm is because of her love for Nobu. That has root in several aspect of her personality and way she behaves. And as that's what has motivated her all these years, essentially contributed in crafting her character.
> Himiko is dead.
Fuck this gay earth.
>4 episodes later
>Jeanne is still trapping
You had one job, Kawamori.
>not licking the best girl
She still had her old outfit in her suitcase, she'll probably wear it eventually. It looked like she had a dress too (she threw it at Himiko).
Kids are annoying.
>best girl dead
>best boy dead
>best bobs still dead
Kawamori and Satelight are not working.
Jeanne is annoying.
I'm sure they're not dead and won't die anytime soon.
I hope ;_;
i sincerely hope that shit loli dies. if she lives, i'm definitely dropping this
Oh come on! you guys don't really believe that Himiko is dead do you?
She's in the opening as a main character, she still has another regalia that hasn't been used and is important to the plot apparently, she's part of the love triangle and Nobu hasn't really developed feelings for her yet so it's stupid to kill her now.
Besides she can use magic, she'll heal herself or someone else will do it, Nobukatsu on the other hand is really dead, I expected him to start a rebellion against Nobunaga because of the advisors but I guess they didn't want that.
Is HS delayed too?
>implying they are identical
Tell me one time Kawamori come back to life one character...never!
Being in the opening as a main doesn't mean anything, she can hand over her other regalia before she dies too.
Welp, I'm drawing blanks here. But thing is, they're not dead YET.
>you guys don't really believe that Himiko is dead do you?
>She's in the opening as a main character
Reminds me of:
>Sunrise doesn't kill princesses
>Lieselotte is in the OP, she is relevant
Yeah, I think she is dead and will stay dead.
Lieselotte didn't even have a role until S2. And even then, she was barely a character with an actual role, much less a major character. So, not a good comparison.
The simulcast doesn't seems to be delayed like Saki and Seki-kun, hopefully it's just the servers being slow.
That's what I want to know. Where are the subs?
Picked back up.
480p is out now.
When does Joan get her tits back?
I only started watching this two days ago. Weren't they hiding Jeanne's tits from the princess? Didn't she see them when they were talking that night when Jeanne couldn't sleep? Or is the princess blind?
Why this guy looks like native american?
So did Himiko use Teleportation magic or what?
Either Ichihime doesn't really care, whoch makes Jean's crossdressing pointless, or it was simply lazy writing.
I don't know which.
Probably doesn't care.
ED single is scheduled to be released in 2 days.
I wonder if it will be leaked.
It´s just another case of Mitsu being wrong
It's her twin sister
Last week, 720p was out a minute after 480p.
It has been almost 30 minutes since 480p is out. Are we going to have to watch it on toaster quality today?
He seems to be wrong on just about anything, who's he going to get killed next?
I guess so. We can watch toaster quality for now and wait?
Looks like 720p is finally out.
He has to get mech he was begging Da Vinci for first.
They won't kill one of the main girls in 2 cour show right away.
Depends on what they're going for.
Better to have her dead now than having another Zessica.
More suffering in this episode ?
No bu being an ass at his dad's funeral.
Jeanne trying to reason the fool, just to be treated like a potato sack. Poor girl.
A cute little MitsuIchi shippy moment.
Jeanne bbeing fed up of being treated as a potato sack packing her things.
Himiko's lecture : Bla bla my bethrothed is so awsome, you just don't understand him bla bla.
Shouta making sense.
DaVinci being a shipperfag. More tarot BS.
Jeanne telling him to fuck off and leaving.
Traitorous Mitsu ?
Nobu being a drama queen as always.
Oh fuck. Misu about to kill the shouta. Fuck !!!
Nobu being a muscular and wet drama queen, Jeanne wetting her pantsus. I guess she won't quit.
Loli was spying on half naked Nobu too. She dead now, took the bullet in his place.
Himiko STRONK. Jeanne being sad for Himiko.
Shouta dead too. Mitsu a traitorous shit !
Dat drama. Dem muscles.
Not that much QUALITY.
Also Hideyoshi comfirmed for best Nip boy now that Shouta is dead.
all in all a fairly good episode.
Time to watch best girl getting shot ;_;
>Mitsu killing little brother.
PLEASE, make that fucker be next.
>Da Vinci keeps calling Jeanne "mademoiselle"
>look up mademoiselle on wiki out of curioisity
>French feminists got the government to ban the word in 2012
Everything about this show is dogshit. Why would you want to discuss it?
You realize the majority of the promo material only focuses on the guys and maybe Jeanne? They can cut her off the opening.
This, fuck him.
Did HorribleSubs just take down Nobunaga?
It's still there, probably it's just your imagination.
>Country run by jews for nigger
Holy fuck this episode, WHY.
Mitsu is fucking crazy, This nigga will do anything for Nobunaga and also Himiko ;_;
God damn this is slowly becoming one of my favorites this season.
You're right. I'm just blind.
>No bu being an ass at his dad's funeral.
Seriously, what was up with that scene?
>Jeanne trying to reason the fool, just to be treated like a potato sack. Poor girl.
>Jeanne bbeing fed up of being treated as a potato sack packing her things.
>Jeanne telling him to fuck off and leaving.
I really wish she had called quits for good. Then, go and explore the world while Nobunaga gets trampled. I wouldn't mind.
>Nobu being a muscular and wet drama queen
I couldn't decide between cringing and laughing at that scene.
>Shouta dead too. Mitsu a traitorous shit!
I hope Nobunaga learns this and kills him on the spot.
This is a travesty. Worse than the loli death even.
Nobu should have listened to his dreams. After Jeanne popped up he should have started to keep an eye on Mitsu.
>>French feminists got the government to ban the word in 2012
I don't want to know what the world will be like in 20 years.
>Seriously, what was up with that scene?
The real Nobunaga did pretty much the same thing.
>When Nobuhide died in 1551 in Owari, he had designated young Nobunaga to succeed him as the head of the Oda clan and its small domain. Nobunaga, who hardly even knew his father and already had a bad reputation as a delinquent, arrived inappropriately dressed at Nobuhide's funeral and threw incense at the altar of the temple as he cursed his fate.
The real Nobunaga sounds like a dick, but at least his reasons can be understood (become leader of a tiny area in place of a person you never knew).
The one in this show doesn't make any sense. He's just a dick. And that whole Sakura business... was that the loli? Or just DRAMA?
>Traitorous Mitsu ?
"Mitsuhide is a traitor" is a redundant sentence
Jeanne is one of the few sane/moral people surrounded by these crazy, back-stabbing Japs.
I think the sakura petals were supposed to be his father's spirit, tied into Ichi talking about the sakura tree her father loved.
It's probably a good thing she's leery of Da Vinci.
Seriously, this. Almost everyone else's actions either don't make any sense, or their reasons are so convoluted, I don't give a damn trying to understand.
Nobunaga was a dick to everyone (minus Ranmaru), why dou you think that he's always the bad guy in fiction?
Oh God damn it.
Himiko better fucking live. I swear.
>Nobunaga was a dick to everyone (minus Ranmaru)
How ironic given these series. He's a bick to her, too.
>why dou you think that he's always the bad guy in fiction
He is? Sorry, not used to reading/watching historical fiction.
So did this get any good? Dropped it in the middle of episode 2.
In Sengoku Basara he was so evil that every time he appears he's surrounded by evil dark clouds.
Funnily enough it seems nearly all the Japs(except Mitsuhide who seems partially sane) and Da Vinci want Jeanne to be insane with them. I guess they can smell the insanity potential that dwells within her being the reincarnation of both the original Jeanne and Ranmaru.
>implying this isn't the most exciting show to watch this season
You mean this?
I see. I've had Sengoku Basara long enough in my lacklog, it seems.
And we're stuck with this guy as a protagonist, huh? Woe.
Watch it. It's so much fun.
It's been getting better and better since that first episode.
Backlog. I need sleep.
I can't stop laughing, help.
So his brother and wife got killed because he was busy screaming in the woods instead of unifying his clan.
Way to go idiot.
I bet this is Nobunaga is talking with Himiko as she recovers.
Well he is the fool after all.
Sengoku Basara Nobunaga was a fucking beast so was Hideyoshi.
Do we get a Date Masamune in this show.
SHIT JUST GOT REAL
We need a Crawling remix if that whole scene.
>that entire monologue at the beginning
I just started the episode but what the fuck? There was no need to explain all that shit. If they removed the exposition that could have actually been a really good scene (the singing in the background as it pans over everything).
Da Vinci is a pretty suspicious guy.
>Episode starts with Nobu's dumbass sister singing
I almost dropped it.
He reminds me of Fudo. And Fudo ended up being the biggest asshole ever.
You just don't understand him!
Only those who are naturaly gifted and talented can !
It was annoying trying to listen to both at once.
And here Jeanne's hearing them talk behind the door and getting sad/jealous.
So yeah, Himiko will be fine right?
By the way, what do you think it's the inheritance that Nobuhide left for Nobu?, Ichi said that if the inheritance would come to light it would cause more problems, so what is it?
So, the other fools.
This show is very frustrating to watch.
Yes, YES! The loli is finally out of the way
Why was Himiko offering Jeanne advice? Doesn't she know that is a losing flag?
FUCK YOU, PIECE OF SHIT!
Dying is also a losing flag.
Wasn't it the oni mask?
I'll be surprised if she's actually dead (and stays dead).
I don't really care either way. I like Himiko but think her actually dying this early would be interesting.
I honestly don't blame Jeanne for bailing.
>A fool will always find a greater fool to admire him
That is true. I guess we have to wait to see if she truly dies.
>killing one of the best characters in the show
This list is already short enough as it is. This is a terrible idea.
No, no, no.
She's not dead, damn it ;_;
Do they have to have a tarot card for every episode? I'm already pretty bored with it, just feels like they are pushing a stupid gimmick.
God fucking dammit kawamori, WHY
That sly motherfucker, I NEVER saw this coming
How incredibly true. It's a shame her large breasts make it it almost impossible to weild a sword correctly though. I would have loved to see her become a warrior.
Women don't belong in the battlefield. Kawamori has clearly stated this by killing off Himiko.
It doesn't matter in what century you're living, a rifle shot to the heart is pretty fucking fatal. Unless they pull some magic bullshit out of their ass, she's dead.
oh who am I kidding, they probably will.
Going by the gold designs in the background it looks like he's in a hallway.
you sexist pig
She also gave herself a deathflag with that.
>>killing one of the best characters in the show
it's been done before
This episode was melodrama incarnate. Nobu acts like a fucking child too but yet everyone constantly has to point out "you just don't understand him" as if he was really deep and amazing. Jeanne really should have just left but no. She sees him howling like a lunatic under a waterfall and starts crying as if she was deeply moved by it. Fuck off Jeanne. Mitsu is like the only character that gives a shit about anything that is happening I swear. This nigga is shedding blood and sacrificing his honor for his countrymen.
Prove me wrong, anonymous cis scum.
That's only true because of time constraints and men's mental limitations. A woman can become just as powerful as a man, but it takes longer.
There is also the issue of breasts getting in the way but the main issue is what happens when they die or are dying on the battlefield. When a female soldier falls on the battlefield it drastically reduces morale and male soldiers are more likely to do stupid shit in an attempt to save them.
In other words if you want to have female soldiers it would be best to isolate them from male soldiers or do the smarter thing and simply keep them out of combat.
>Mitsuhide ends up coming with plan to allow Nobunaga to save the day
>ends up indirectly causes the death of the clan head
>feels guilty about it
>Still willing to bring even more guilt to himself to save the clan
This guy is fucking awesome. Best character in the show by far.
You're wrong. twice.
I could see either her or Jeanne's pendant having a healing ability, if it happens though it will feel kind of cheap since they just killed off Nobu's father. She said she fulfilled her duty so I don't know.
If you ignore the fact that he will betray and kill him so he can fuck his sister, sure why not.
No that was another box that Mitsu had.
If it's another regalia, how would that make more problems among the clan?, I think it's something different.
Anyway I just hope Jeanne/Ranmaru will soon start to "understand" Nobunaga (whatever that is supposed to mean) and be more proactive in his plans, if not then she should have really left permanently or just for some time.
You know 2 weeks ago some anon said that all 3 of the recent deaths would occur. Is this a manga or light novel?
You should blame Nobu for having such a shitty best friend aka Mitsu who keeps killing off your family members like your father and little brother and gives pretty shitty advice.
I believe it's based on a play by Kawamori.
This is what delusional landwhales actually believe.
Mitsu only sheds crocodile tears.
Looks like she's bathing in semen.
Sometimes, I do hate it when my predictions comes true. She was the type to emit that kind of aura, all for her love one and all that.
I'm just waiting for this glorious bastard to show up.
She will, since she's Ranmaru she should develop into being the closest person to him. I figure after all of this crap happening to him that they should start to form that strong bond soon.
That explains it.
I almost feel like dropping this series but I have faith that Jeane/Da Vinci will spread the voice of reason to the land and bring about a golden age from the ashes of war.
Some kind of poetic shit like that. They are the world's only hope since even our main heroes are murderers and warmongers.
He knew that with two heirs, it would only cause a rift. So being taken out (whether permanently or temporarily) serves to only leave Nobunaga as the only choice.
At the same time, the dual deaths will guarantee that Nobunaga harden enough to do what needs to be done. Which hopefully will include killing the retainers who've plotted against him.
Not surprised. This scene felt like it came right out of a play.
>Dat voice, smirk, and smug face
Why is she so perfect?
Fuck, where is S.t.a.l.k.er.
You forgot those shorts.
She still has a second Regalia, doesn't she?
Can't die until both are in Nobu's possession.
IT WAS INEVITABLE
Why do you guys bitch so much about your favourite girl dying? It was obvious she was going to lose. You should be at least happy she has a nice ending giving her life for the one she loves instead of just being forgotten.
ED starts great but then turns into this shitty electro dubstep whatever.
Himiko has an ahoge.
She is the true main girl.
There'll probably be quite a bit of cleaning house next episode, probably a few cases of seppuku.
And you will never see her again. I think it is time to drop the show to keep a good memory of it.
He committed sudoku because he wasn't able to protect best boy and girl.
>It was obvious
Don't you mean It was inevitable
So is this basically Crusader Kings 2: The Animation?
>Why was she so perfect?
Fixed that for you.
>my bethrothed, take this
Nobunaga looks baller as fuck with the topknot, he should have that hairstyle all the time instead of the generic Goku-stuff.
>blames himself for Nobuhide's death
>kills best boy
>has two slow ninja with brain problems who can't save best girl
Mitsu a shit! A shit! He must die suffering the worst pain of this world
Next episode should be bretty good
Standing under waterfalls was often done both for training and as self-punishment.
Mitsu should have just killed the whole family and spared us the rest of this show.
A nation founded by kin slaying never peacefully exits the scene.
Oh god why. God damn it I knew she'd lose but I didn't expect it to be like this.
Himiko's pet was inside her clothes and the bullet hit it, saving her from dying Not going to happen of course
I wonder if the Ninjas were just useless or if Mitsuhide planned to have Himiko die.
But this show is awesome
Aots , but yeah I doubt himiko is dead
Why is she so dead? ;_;
>i'm a faggot who only cares about my sexual attraction to underage kids and not about the plot
This is probably the worst part of every episode. His few allies constantly praising him and acting as if he's some hidden jewel prodigy just waiting to become god. Unfortunately first impressions always stick and people are not going to wait around for such hogwash.
Bullet would have gone straight through the little thing.
This was too early to the best characters
>When I do this, you look to be the same size as my right hand.
>But that is not your true size, is it not?
>Then are my eyes deceiving me?
>The truth can be concealed by the position one chooses to take,
>but can also be revealed once more.
Who is best Fool and why is it Da Vinci?
Mitsu is still alive.
depends if the bullet is spherical.
What plot? Another week of "You don't understand him" + Mitsu doing shit?
He's the only one having a good time, doing his own thing, and not getting over involved in the matters of the barbaric and retarded japs. Nigga knows what's up.
Thank God this piece of garbage is bombing hard.
Would have been easier for him to tell her that she needs to look at things from a different perspective, but it's Da Vinci.
Oh, look! Another femtard who's completely ignorant of basic biology!
Protip: There's a prime example of why women don't belong on the battlefield going on right now, in Sochi.
Brutus > Mitsuhide
Only Himiko and imouto truly understands Nobu. Jeanne isn't even trying.
Truly, Jeanne is a child and acts like one.
He dont exist
>He's the only one having a good time
>0 fucks given
Indeed, he is the only one who is having some fun doing the tourist.
Who are you quoting?
Please die Himiko and stay die
noooo they didn't get to even fuck yet damnit
ITT: Butthurt Himikofags
Get over it, faggots. Jeanne is going to win and marry Nobu, and Himiko is going to stay dead rotting away in the ground forever to be forgotten. Good thing she realized that she was worst and jumped in front of that bullet.
Actually, he is always doing the opposite. Nobunaga so far has always been saved by girls. Not Mitsu or Monkey, but Jeanne and Himiko, even now, Mitsu was killing an innocent and Himiko was saving his beloved.
If anything, males are just treacherous bastards so far.
Is that thing a familiar or something? It mirrors all of her reactions. Himiko was supposed to be a sorceress, right? Maybe that's not her that was shot.
Low level baiting.
No one even cares that Jeanne will win. Jeanne is still bad no matter if she wins or not.
>Mitsu was killing an innocent
More like doing what needed to be done for the clan to survive. Nice try, though.
I don't think they even kissed yet, let alone held hands.
It's obvious Himiko death was planned
I can't really tell with nobukatsu
>implying the clan will survive
>implying killing him was the only possibility
>implying people like the nobles will follow or understand Nobunaga after this
>implying it won't
>implying it wasn't the easiest and most direct solution, which was required since war was coming
>implying they have a choice
>They see your dick
Fuck that. Who would want to understand a shitty Basara?
The clan is already divided, and Nobukatsu's death was not caused by a third party but by Mitsuhide. Do you think this won't split more the clan in the future?
>>implying they have a choice
Yeah, they will be forced to follow him, and that is not exactly the point of understanding how big, good, perfect, and blah blah Nobunaga is.
-How did Himiko get there so fast?
-Why did Himiko go there alone?
-Why couldn't those ninja spot the gunman who was trying to kill Nobu when Jeane can?
-Why did Mitsuhide kill the shota when the others could just make big a deal out of Nobunaga killing him and use it as an excuse to drive him out?
because she's dead
No one ever said this show was without plot holes.
>giving your life to someone who doesn't give two fucks about you
You have some strange principles anon.
>-How did Himiko get there so fast?
You don't know if she was fast, though.
>-Why did Himiko go there alone?
Who could she call? The ninja girls?
Also, she was doing her duty as Nobu's wife.
>-Why couldn't those ninja spot the gunman who was trying to kill Nobu when Jeane can?
Because Mitsu is a dick and doesn't want someone powerful like Himiko to mess up with his plans.
>-Why did Mitsuhide kill the shota when the others could just make big a deal out of Nobunaga killing him and use it as an excuse to drive him out?
Because Mitsu is a dick x 2 and he is stupid. He will pay for it, though.
the series is based on a light novel... amimesuki confirmed it
She's a witch.
>doesn't give two fucks about you
>he was visibly distraught and will likely be in a slump next episode
Just because he didn't want to stick his dick in her loli pussy it doesn't mean that he didn't care about her.
beach episode when?
Wasn't the LN a prologue? Because I think they are going to give the first volume with the first BD IIRC.
>Nobunaga the Fool (ノブナガ・ザ・フール Nobunaga za Fūru?) is a Japanese stage play and anime series,
Since the attempt on Nobu's life happened at the same time it will look like somebody was trying to take out all of the heirs at the same time.
Well, at least those insane/unmoral people are far more interesting as characters than her. A show that can't even accomplish to entertain its audience, whether using sane or insane character, is only a waste of time. Imagine if all the cast were like Jeanne. I'd be the epitome of boredom.
kinda forgot... I'm using my mobile phone atm so I won't be able to check it out
If the nobles were smart they would have used it to accuse and sentence Nobu to death.
And leave the clan with no proper leader? Are you fucking retarded?
The amazon page says the first volume comes with an introduction novel.
Because Nobunaga is a proper leader for them, right?
Just got from work, is it true that Himiko is kill? It's a joke, r-right?
>kills best boy
But Mitsu didn't kill the Fool.
Editing picture isn't an argument
Not for long ;_;
So what subs do you all use for this show anyways?
Well we don't actually see her die or take her last breath or anything like that but the signs are not good
Surely better than having no leader. They aren't western medieval nobles; never once would they have thought of trying to lead the clans themselves. If they killed Nobu now they'd be completely fucked because none of them would have any idea how to lead.
Isn't it strange how Mistu and some of the advisors have their own personal ninjas yet neither Nobu or his younger brother have ninjas of their own despite being higher ranking than Mitsu?
I was surprised Nobu's dad didn't have personal bodyguards as well and Nobu's younger brother never had any guards with him.
Feels kinda of an asspull.
God fucking dammit, why did Kawamori thought this was a good idea?
Guns are really rare and Nobu clan's army have already seen Mitsu being really good at using a gun during the last battle with the Takeda forces.
It is also very obvious Nobu's younger brother died of a gunshot wound.
Mitsu would be the most suspicious person right now.
Saying it isn't an argument just because you say so isn't an argument either.
>Lurked thread for hours, but only now got around to watch the episode
Nope. Nope. Nope.
Requesting stitch anyways.
You started it.
And Nobu was almost killed by a gun too. So they can either admit that they tried to kill the heir (meaning they committed treason) so Mitsu gets in trouble, or they don't say anything and try and blame it on a singular assassin.
It isn't fucking hard. Some of you guys are retarded.
Oh, come on, dude, Mitsu's plan is just pant on head retarded.
Most of the nobles (if not all of them) are against Nobunaga, they don't even think to seize Hayashi who committed treason against the official heir. Killing Nobukatsu would only give them the chance to have arguments against Nobunaga's succession. They aren't clearly willing to follow or having him as a leader.
Yes, he is, he will conquer and unite the whole east star and save both stars by the end, only to be betrayed by Mitsuhide later. We already kind of know what's going to happen remember?
Depends, Nobu's father was killed by Caesar. They may have just thought it was another clan using aid from him.
Because he likes to force Jeanne on us.
So what was nobu doing under the waterfall anyways? Just yelling for no reason?? That part was so random.
>Great morning started with YrYr project thing
>Watched other decent shows
>Watch this episode
So, Jeanne end confirmed as if it wasn't enough already.
Did you read anything I said? They don't have a fucking choice. They have no one else to turn to. They can't try revolt because they themselves have no idea how to lead (plus war is coming) and they can't just go and join another clan. They have literally no other choice but to follow Nobu.
Being angry because your father died sure is random.
Kawamori has the worst taste on women, I tell you.
His way of meditating, he's grieving.
Not saying he won't unite the Star or he isn't a proper leader, I'm saying they don't see him as a leader now, surely in future they will.
But that is also because it is an anime.
There is still Ichime, you know.
That was my first reaction as well. Fuck this show, why does worst girl always win.
I'm mad. What the fuck, Kawamori?
Offing Himiko is bad enough, but also the awesome little brother who only wanted to do good to protect his people, but most of all his older brother and sister?
My day is ruined.
This series has a prologue LN which is posted on the official site and a prologue manga on Nico Nico Ace.
i knew there was something incredibly wrong with the writing on this show but i couldn't quite put my finger on it before though now i realize what it is
jeanne and himiko are talking. what is it about? nobunaga
mitsuhide and nobukatsu are talking. what is it about? nobunaga
jeanne and da vinci are talking. what is it about? nobunaga
the writing on this shit is on the level of wolf guy and inuyasha. everything (literally EVERYTHING) is about the faggot mc. how awesome is your main chracter? so awesome
not only is it annoying, it also makes everything else poorly developed and badly explained. for example, when caesar killed nobuhide or whatever nobunaga's father is called, why did he even back off? his unit wasn't even scratched and if anything, the enemy forces would be weaker. same for that homo in the red suit. and after caesar was done there, what was he even doing? and why does nobody care some western/guy from the other planet was hanging around with some armor 100x better than the ones they have? why aren't they even scouting for him?
and that homo in the red suit. they could literally replace him for a red alien and no one would notice the difference. the villains are just plot devices for the main character to fight. they have less personality than lieselotte/a cardboard box
i see they're going harder for the fujoshit audience too, with constantly showing nobunaga half naked and also going for the tweests audience from vvv with the 2 deaths this episode. if the loli remains dead, i'm gonna give it another 3 episodes to see if it stops being complete garbage. if she lives, i'm just gonna drop it
>a woman leading a clan
Yeah, you're retarded.
The only reason this show was good was because there were other delicious females aside from Jeanne, so we could ignore her easily. If Himiko's gone, who'll save us from Jeanne's shittyness!? I don't want to put up with that bitch for the rest of the episodes.
What was Himiko doing? And Ichime can easily be used as a puppet (just like Nobukatsu).
>nobunaga is the the heir of a clan where the previous head just died
>mad that they are talking about him
Dude the show is literally named after the main character
They can claim Mitsu is trying to take over the clan by killing off the 2 brothers and attempting to marry the surviving heir, the princess.
You're clearly the retarded one who denies that Mitsu is gonna be forced to commit suicide soon.
Oh God, Kawamori is going to kill Ichi next. Either that or giving her to Caesar.
Well, if the enemy's main weapon starts creating a giant purple shockwave and awakens the dragon (or whatever I don't know, man), I think that's a pretty good reason to retreat.
Of course they are talking about Nobunaga, it was inevitable.
I can't believe that there are people here who want Jeanne to lose. Past life Nobunaga loved Ranmaru more than anything, but they could never be together because Mitsuhide indirectly killed them. Now that they can be together again and live together you won't give them the chance.
so what? that doesn't excuse this level of poor writing
Except they have literally no proof other than the fact that it was gun that killed both of them. 2 guns, seeing as they were killed a the same time.
I'm sure blaming him for that would work really well.
It was INEVITABLE.
Mitsuhide tells her she above all others should remain calm and wait for Nobunaga. What?
>I can't believe that there are people here who want Jeanne to lose.
Anon, even Monkey would be a better girl than her, as simple as that.
It's Japan and Oda Nobunaga, not going to happen. Ichi will be married off eventually.
Ichihime isn't completely stupid though. From their conversation, it almost seems like Mitsu has been acting partly on her orders. I wouldn't put it past her to get to the top if she really wanted to.
>Except they have literally no proof
Except they don't need any proof, since nobody supports Nobu except four or five persons, and two of those are also baka gaijin.
Yeah, I don't understand that either. They don't really have that kind of relationship yet.
>Past life Nobunaga loved Ranmaru more than anything
Maybe Kawamori should have made an actual Ranmaru rather than that reincarnation bullshit he's got with Jeanne. I honestly would have preferred homo over Jeanne.
Probably reincarnation shenanigans, he probably also gets it that Nobu listens to her.
Not even homo if it's too much for Japan, but a bromance would have been okay.
I know, but that is not a justification for Mitsu's plan, because if they wanted the nobles could replace Nobu with his sister and use her instead of Nobukatsu. That is what would happen if the show wasn't written so straightforwardly.
Except Nobu is the only surviving heir and now has to be clan head. They can't do whatever they want just because they don't like him. If they blame him Nobu wouldn't listen, and if they don't listen to Nobu the entire clan is going to be destroyed by the invaders.
I swear this anti-Mitsu haters are completely fucking retarded.
After Evol I don't know why anyone is expecting good writing in a Kawamori show.
Nobukatsu knew his plan would never last. He was practically planting the idea into Mitsuhide's head. That makes him even better in my eyes.
Oda Nobunaga, funeral crasher
Yeah, I should have said bromance. I would have preferred that to Kawamori forcing Jeanne down our throat, but it was inevitable.
This is the most well-written show of the season.
This is what I think as well, but couldn't he have sudoku'd as well? That wouldn't lead to any allegations of murder.
I didn't like the loli that much, but this scene makes her death much worse because it implies she knew what was coming
Mitsu killed the little brother? Well shit, now a civil war will happen, goddammit Mitsu.
>French feminists got the government to ban the word in 2012
What? Isn't mademoiselle just the word "Miss" in France? Why the fuck would they ban that.
If only CK2 have mecha.
>Except Nobu is the only surviving heir and now has to be clan head.
Except Ichime is still alive, oh wait...
>I swear this anti-Mitsu haters are completely fucking retarded.
Or maybe it is the anime that has just plot-holes and is not a pinnacle of good writing?
You sound like someone who doesn't question the writing just because it is written that way.
Sure, but I think he was too gentle for that kind of thing as Ichihime said, and also it would've been less dramatic.
Except Ichime is a woman and war is coming. If they go with her they're completely fucked. You're still retarded.
There are plenty of plot holes in this show but Mitsu killing the shota is not one of them. You're just too stupid to understand why it isn;t.
Jesus Christ, this fucking episode.
Kawamori is great for world building, crazy concepts and ideas. But making a plot that doesn't fall apart within minutes because of its many flaws? Writing reasonable, rounded characters? He's incapable of that. When he tries to, we get stuff like this or EVOL. Characters/plot that were good because nobody took them seriously become shit the moment he tries to convince people that he means serious business. That and he seems to have a fixation with passive, dull female heroines.
The literal translation is "my little lady", and implies the woman is possessed by a man.
Mitsuhide did nothing wrong. I don't know why people are bitching about his actions. Nobukatsu acted like a naive idiot by getting pushed by the advisors and was endangering everyone with his pacifist views. There was absolutely no way to help Nobunaga once he agreed to the demands of becoming a clan leader.
It was tragic and he was well meaning, but there was no other choice.
> this is the most well-written show of the season
Mitsuhide knows Ranmaru/Jeanne is the person Nobunaga dreamed about all his life. It was established and hinted in episode 1.
>Except Ichime is a woman and war is coming.
So what? Even Himiko was a woman (not even old), and Nobukatsu wasn't a great man that will be remembered for his bravery. The nobles needed someone easy to use, and Ichime fits that role. Nobunaga doesn't.
Yeah, and Shoko did nothing wrong!
Nobukatsu wasn't a naive idiot, it was all a plan to throw himself into the line of sight of Mitsuhide's gun and eliminate himself from the equation. This is partly because it's the only way to lead the clan to survival and party because how much of an inferiority complex he had towards Nobunaga.
They didn't want Nobukatsu because he would be easy to use, it was because they genuinely believe Nobu is a fool and would ruin the clan. You really should pay attention.
I don't think Nobukatsu was that calculating. But you could play it up as Nobukatsu knowing what Mitsuhide would do and all that I suppose.
That's a little girl trying to act like a politician, these are real politics.
You might be right, but the point is that Mitsuhide was forced into this shit for the greater good. He wasn't wrong. If Nobunaga had acted less like an idiot, this wouldn't have happened.
It's Nobunaga's entire fault for Himiko's and Nobukatsu's sacrifices. I hope he realizes this and stops being a big baby.
At least we see Mitsu contemplating his decision, unlike Miss MUH CAVE PROMISE.
It's the conclusion I draw from the fact that he didn't he seem a bit surprised about being gunned down, but rather elated, as though he had been expecting it.
Indeed, it's time for Nobunaga to stop being a sour puss and get to work.
I think people are taking too seriously what mitsu said, he kept averting his eyes the entire time he was talking with Jeanne, so he might be lying and didn't mean what he said or this is all part of his future keikaku
>these are real politics.
It's not like we're watching C-SPAN here, but the politicking here is a lot more realistic that what was in Valvrave. Which is a shame, VVV had the potential for good politics.
Not that guy you're replying to but that's pretty interesting. Never knew that.
Actually no. But whatever.
What is happening to europe?
Clan murders are pretty spot on.
And he regrets it immediately afterwards.
Mitsu > Shitko
>feminists getting words banned
I wonder what's next on their agenda. Thoughts?
Is this a harem? Or is this a convoluted love triangular shit like EVOL?
Let's not get too deep into that, easily becomes full /pol/.
>Mitsu > Shitko
Ah, my bad.
There's no triangle.
It's a weird mix between historic people and events with a splash of mecha and destiny.
Romance doesn't seem to be taking a front seat anyway, it seems to be more about Nobunaga conquering the planetary representation of the east and showing those baka gaijins.
Sounds good thanks /a/nons
Loving the character designs, gonna give this a shot.
Fcuk this deathflag;_:
When will he become full hotblooded mecha pilot Ryoma mode?
The show would instantly improve tenfold.
Who am I kidding, he's just going to stand under waterfalls yelling and dressing up like an idiot using Byakuya powers all day.
So what the hell is Nobu's problem, anyway? Is he crazy or just stupid?
Also whose decision was it to put dubstep in the ED?
Himiko in dog form when?
It's more like Escaflowne. Where the main couple was obvious but took forever to get together and there's a loli pinning after MC.
He is a fool
I'm with Jeanne, Nobunaga is an idiot and doesn't deserve everyone dying for his idiotic self.
>They didn't want Nobukatsu because he would be easy to use
They were sure expecting him to give every order and lead them.
This fucking episode. I was not ready for this
We should have expected shit to go down since the real Nobunaga pulled the same stunt at his father's funeral, it wasn't going to be a normal grieving episode.
Why wouldn't both be possible?
Hope Da Vinci makes another mech.
I want to see Hideyoshi in a mech doing some monkey business
So using that logic Mitsuhide will backstab him and force him to sudoku
He had talked about making more before, would be odd if he didn't.
>it was because they genuinely believe Nobu is a fool and would ruin the clan.
It is not like Nobunaga is doing anything to prove them wrong, though.
Agreed, but his proficiency in battle should count for something.
>giving Ichi to Caesar
Nope, it should count if he was just a soldier, but he is supposed to be a leader, so that doesn't really count.
He is a leader, he single-handedly turns battles and gives his men morale boosts. That's the kind of leader needed in war times, the old vassals don't seem to have any sense of urgency.
The goal is probably for him to avoid that fate this time around.
Yet, that's how the story ends.
>Caesar takes Ichi by force
>forces her into marriage
>returns to the West
>Brutus is sent to the East
I bet you are also upset that Batman is always about Batman.
This story is contractually obligated to provide a King Arthur and the Army of White People vs Nobunaga and Unified Japan title bout
To be honest Nobunaga is just a stupid rebel kid with autism
>he single-handedly turns battles and gives his men morale boosts.
1) finishes his arrows
2) gets his ass kicked by the enemy
3) is not able to defend himself from conspiracy
until someone saves him or takes care of things for him.
He is just stupid, and for now he is actually a danger for his clan. His first move would probably be to attack Takeda without having the necessary strength.
This is what Nobunaga's brother wanted. He knew Mitsuhide was 100% on Nobu's side, but he told him that he was going to rule the clan anyway. Nobu's brother probably realized that while he was still alive the clan would never fully support Nobunaga. He was also just standing out in the open waiting for it to happen.
Why did they even bother making figures of her if she's dead already? Blunder of the century
WHY WOULD THEY FUCKING KILL OFF BEST GIRL
WHY WOULD THEY PUT HER IN THE OP AND KILL HER WITHIN 5 EPISODES
WHY WOULD THEY LET THAT BLONDE COWTIT MONSTER LIVE INSTEAD OF BEST GIRL
He was too good for this world.
You could say the same of Mami.
Because muh tweest and her design is still good
>Nobu's brother probably realized that while he was still alive the clan would never fully support Nobunaga
It is not like the nobles will support Nobunaga just because there is no other heir - except Ichime. And I hope they are not going to make a 180 and support Nobunaga without complaining, it would be really cheap and poor,
She will probably show up as a some kind of newtype hallucination.
Forgot your gif.
Nobunaga is such a shitty character, I can't wait to see him getting his ass kicked by this two
There are figures?
It is not going to be easy, but the are going to have to support Nobunaga now, even if it is begrudgingly.They are out of heirs (besides a woman), so if they want the Oda clan to remain in power they have to acknowledge Nobunaga.
man this is one of the few series where I want to see the protagonist die like a bitch, nobu a shit
Himiko will be alright, the squirrel thing tooks the shot for her.
But that sound cute, goddammit feminists.
I wonder what's happening to the Date clan in this universe, I hope they show up, Masamune have some special relationship with the west afterall.
Is this really happening?
Are there people on /a/ seriously discussing the virtues and flaws of this silly show's characters in a serious literary context?
Is the plot actually being considered in depth beyond the shallow premise of 'hotblooded but misunderstood Nobunaga wages righteous warfare to win Japan's freedom from Western interference and oppression'?
You have people like Julius Caesar jobbing to Nobunaga for fucks sakes. The entire East Star ignores the rest of fucking Asia, despite how most of the Western world's ills and calamities originated from China. Every side character on the East Star has their brains stuck in the real world Sengoku era despite the presence of giant robots, flying ships, fucking magic, and the West in the form of a fucking 'star' planet hovering beside them. Most the cast is stupid for the sake of propping up Nobunaga and his gay friends as voices of reason.
Oh yeah, and Nobunaga takes control of the clan not by killing off and silencing the lords opposed to him, but by the death of his most vocal and ardent supporter - the only family member to understand the real significance of Western intervention and Nobunaga's place in history without having some gay sniper faggot explain it to him in a condescending tone. Great fucking plan, this couldn't possibly backfire at all.
And Himiko >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shit > Jeanne.
>It is not going to be easy,
Oh, well, I hope, but this "Nobunaga is perfect, it is the world that doesn't get him and his perfection" is starting to be annoying and, given how biased the writing is with characters like Jeanne and Nobu, I wouldn't be surprised if next episode will have Nobu ruling the clan and nobody complaining.
But we're mostly discussing "Himiko ;_;". There's a general consensus that Nobu a shit
>Are there people on /a/ seriously discussing the virtues and flaws of this silly show's characters in a serious literary context?
They wanted to play this episode in a serious way. Their choice.
>All this Nobu hate
Ballin' ain't easy.
Her sister sounds like a rapist victim justifying the criminal.
EVOL showed us that Kawamori is better at homo than straight.
Yeah, fuck people for discussing an airing show
>the squirrel thing tooks the shot for her
I can see that happening.
Lets discuss Kawamori's personal war on lolis and green hair and what caused this everlasting hatred on best waifus
Being a useless shitter while everyone else deal with real problems seems too easy for him.
Ranka was shit though, Sheryl was best girl
I thought it was confirmed he got bullied by a green haired loli.
An anime holding Japan as the most important country? No way.
Not to mention it's only inspired by historical events, this isn't a retelling of history. There is no need to portray characters as they were historically. We all know Julius Caesar was a vastly more important person than Nobunaga, and that China was much more important than Japan. It's just an anime.
Nobu's problem from a writer's POV is that he can't be the absolute good guy that proves everyone wrong if he starts killing off all his opponents and rivals or manipulating them into obedience like any other lord in his position would do. So other characters are taking the heat for him in this regard; but as a result, he ends up looking like an incredibly naive soldier.
But Frontier ended with both Ranka and Sheryl winning(i.e. none of them).
Your taste a shit
Your opinions a shit
Best pairing is always Ranka x Sheryl
>But Frontier ended with both Ranka and Sheryl winning(i.e. none of them).
Sheryl won in the movie.
Ranka a shit.
>An anime holding Japan as the most important country? No way
Deep down we want them to get nuke again. If it wasn't for their chinese cartoons.
Sheryl also got the D in the novel
>Sheryl also got the D in the novel
In the anime too IIRC.
She also had better songs.
Thats because Ranka was stereotyped into typical cute and shitty idol songs, and her best songs end up being Aimo and team ups with Sheryl. Completely unfair.
>pulls a Mami/Liselotte on Himiko
BASED FUCKING KAWAMORI
It also doesn't help that in their duets, Sheryl's voice is so much stronger than Ranka's that the dual songs expose how weak her voice is.
Ranka is fated to never win anything.
Technically, it was just (extremely heavily) implied.
>her best songs end up being Aimo and team ups with Sheryl
>not Seikan Hikou and Anata no Oto
What the fuck
Pretty sure the director confirmed she got the d
Ah, that's news to me.
As much as he screwed up with EVOL, Kawamori did well with the Macross/Frontier love triangles.
Man, that ending. I'm a bit shocked that both Himiko and Nobu's brother got killed off, especially since the former seemed somewhat prominent in the OP.
>Kawamori did well with the Macross/Frontier love triangles.
...In what respect? I knew Ranka was going to lose from the moment I watched Alto and Sheryl interact. Ranka and Alto had zero sexual tension, and it was obvious the idea of there being a 'love triangle' to begin with was that there was a love triangle in the original Macross and Frontier was trying to mirror the original. It certainly wasn't on the strength of Ranka and Alto's relationship.
>especially since the former seemed somewhat prominent in the OP
Riku from Blood+
Sorry, I worded that badly. I meant in terms of the right girl winning.
With Nobunaga, we'll see. We're only 1/4 in, and Jeanne clearly has a lot of character development to go through (and soon). I would not be surprised to see Jeanne become best girl by the end.
This ep was so good.
haha time for Jeanne
No he did not.
At least Jeanne pointed this out.
>Sorry, I worded that badly. I meant in terms of the right girl winning.
Oh, I see what you mean now.
Yeah, this show has a ways to go before we get to the end of all the character development. I tend to think Nobunaga as a show is FAR more like Escaflowne than it is Aquarion EVOL though.
new thread or are done for today?