What are some anime movies or shows that you think have aged beautifully?
Princess Mononoke was way better.
No surprise that the greatest fighting shonen ever has managed to age just fine.
HxH surpassed it long ago.
>mfw Nausicaa of the Valley of the Wind came out 30 years ago
Macross DYRL. Not so much in the story, but definitely in the animation. Also the first two Patlabor films still look phenomenal.
Ghost in the Shell
Speaking of things that turn thirty this year that have aged well, I think the original Dragon Ball still holds up pretty well today.
Evangelion aged alright, I suppose, though it's hardly accessible today by normal folk, considering there are people out there who drop the show simply because they don't like Shinji's "wimpiness."
I've been re-watching Dragonball, quite fun
With all the nostalgiafags here it would probably be more difficult to ask what didn't age well.
To be fair, people actually did mention stuff that have aged somewhat well, maybe except for the obvious ones like Dragon Ball.
Plenty of older anime use an artstyle different than most current art styles and some people (myself included) love that old art style.
Find an old show with a high budget that had old art and quality animation and I probably like it.
nah' it didn't age well at all.
Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann on the other hand, aged like fine wine from Rome.
>TTGL is like seven years old now
Dear fucking lord
so? When it first finished airing it already has a place in Anime history. It doesn't matter how new an Anime is, if it's good, it'll be timeless classic.
I like to say the only Gainax series that will age well is Eva and Royal Space Force
>Talking shit about Gunbuster art
>Thinking TTGL is old
>Thinking it looks better than glorious Gunbuster
Fool. And Diebuster has the same art style but way better than TTGL, and it's actually more than a decade old.
>it'll be timeless classic.
A beacon for shit taste everywhere.
>not liking pubic hair
so by your standards, for something to be a timeless classic has to be older than a decade? Thank God you don't work as a historian, or every thing that's happened in the past 10 years is non-existent to you right?
Gunbuster 1 and 2 are both not that great. it's entertaining for sure and has a great soundtrack, but the story is recycled and tropes are burrowed from various japanese culture/tv shows. TTGL at least uses those tropes and creates something new with all the plot twist and ridiculousness.
First, learn some English grammar.
Generally you need to wait a while to see how something is remembered before you call it a classic, but the point of the thread was to discuss how certain anime have aged, and you picked one that's had all of 7 years to age.
>Gunbuster 1 and 2 are both not that great. it's entertaining for sure and has a great soundtrack, but the story is recycled and tropes are burrowed from various japanese culture/tv shows. TTGL at least uses those tropes and creates something new with all the plot twist and ridiculousness.
Hahahahahahahaha! My God that is some serious shit taste there anon.
You can fuck right off.
nah you fuck off. If you don't like TTGL then too bad.
I don't know why I liked Hakusho but I don't think it was the fighting.
Yes, how ever will I live knowing that far better anime exist?
The fact that a fanbase for a bad show exists doesn't really make me lose sleep. The fact that you're all low powerlevel retards and you've shown that you're too stupid to use English correctly only bothers me because I know I share the board with you.
And the fact that you still haven't commented on the fact that you picked a show less than 6 years old as an example of aged anime is funny.
The fact that age doesn't stop an anime from being timeless is your error.
Trigun aged horribly. The show and pacing are awful. The Badlands Rumble movie was bretty gud, though.
Is that wrong? Google translate is a tool and 使う is a verb that can be used to describe use of tools.
Why is Miyazaki SO good?
Because his movies can be enjoyed by any person of all ages.
Also, if Hideaki Anno is the George Lucas of Japan, then who would Miyazaki be?
It always has been Disney and always will be Disney.
Walt Disney, obviously.
>typical 00s kid
>Hating on Gunbuster
>Using TTGL as an example of a classic that aged well
What gave it away?
gross. go back to the 70's with your pubic lice old man
Thou some faggots like to bitch about S2, it holds up nicely. And honestly, S2 was just a second helping.
>not liking pubes
Aim for the Ace (the 1979 movie)
Neon Genesis EvangelionSo much of the direction, music and, art, mechanical, monster, and interface designs look fantastic and inventive still to this day. The animation's spottiness is overstate at times but there are still moments where it just long frozen frames. But the show still houses some excellent animation.
Oniisama E, too me it's one of the best looking TV anime from the 90s
On Your Mark
Future Boy Conan
Rose of Versallies or at least the later half
Urusei Yatsura 2 Beautiful Dreamer
Royal Space Force
Nadia, minus island and africa
Magic User Club
Ghost in the Shell
There are a lot of early 2000s anime I need to rewatch at some point to make some better judgements. Like I am not sure how well Aline 9 or Gunslinger Girls looks compare to modern anime.
Nice list. What about Dirty Pair, Bubblegum Crisis or Lupin III?
I love Dirty Pair but I think a lot of aspects of it are dated. A lot of the humour comes from how cheesy it is sometimes. But I would probably add the movie though as it has some nice animation and music. But still it feels very much like a product of the 80s.
Bubblegum Crisis, like Dirty Pair feels very much like a product of the 80s. It really likes like a cross between Terminator, Blade Runner and Streets of Fire I haven't seen this but from what I heard, it seems very similar.. Still I think the latter half the series aged much better than the beginning, once the action is really going and the world had already be established.
LoGH is interesting. I feel My Conquest of the Sea of star has aged well. When I first started watching the OVA series, it felt like too a little too much inspiration from Star Wars. Also the beginning OVAs are very episodic and doesn't jive well with the rest of the series. The dialogue is good and the planning of the battles are fun. But some of space combat looks really dated. And then you have the QUALITY that the DVD and BD versions tried to cover up. Still I love the series and would recommend in a heart beat but with some minor warnings. I would recommend really all of these.
I can't say much of about Lupin III. I like what I saw of from original TV series and I though about putting the Miyazaki movie in there and I probably should have. But I haven't seen enough to make a good judgement call on it.
All valid reasons.
Not many tripfags actually watch anime and discuss it instead of just shitposting like retards. Good for you.
Wow, this post actually gave me cancer
I try, oh god do I try.
I still think all of Satoshi Kon's movies hold up
>dream machine will never be finished
Neither will Despera.
Such is life.
You need to take my opinions with a grain of salt. I was seriously thinking of adding Manyuu Hikenchou to my list as I though it's a legitimately good show and most of the aspects of the show are solid. But its far too new to saw that it has aged beautifully or is timeless. So thats why I stop at the early 00s.
I see no problem with anything you've said. You're able to put your opinion forward like a rational person.
Tell me something tripfag, what do you think of the TTGLfag that said Gunbuster/Diebuster aren't good but TTGL is a timeless classic?
I am not that fond of TTGL as I though it really should ended in the first half. Despite of them literally throwing galaxies around at the end, I though the growth of scale was much better done in the first half.
THAT said, I think I am somewhat bias and If I watched TTGL now, I would probably enjoy it a bit more as I seen a lot more mecha shows and older anime since I watched I first watched. I think I watched it when I was in super serious anime phase so it didn't jive with me all that well and I didn't appreciate the CRAZY aspect of it. Though it might be dislike of SUPER COOL characters why I didn't enjoy TTGL that much. Because of that I don't really like Cowboy Bebop either. But that's another mini essay.
I think Gunbuster is classic, not that sure about Diebuster. I should rewatch that too as I expected too much of a Gunbuster 2 (Yes I know that is basically the japanese name), so I didn't enjoy just because it wasn't that much like Gunbuster. But if I rewatch it now, I would see it that it was really trying to something different with the universe.
Gunbuster is fucking great. I never understand why people hate the first episode, it acts as a great overture to the whole series. Many people cite the beginning of the boring part of Gunbuster but I feel its the middle, namely the Smith episode. I loved when I first watched, loved it even more rewatching after seeing Aim for the Ace and still loved it when I rewatched it again.
TL;DR: I'm fucking biased.
Baccano! still holds up really well.
I also think that the first half of TTGL was great and the second half was a mess. The first half was a nice coming of age story with cool action. The second half felt like a mess, and Imiashi wanting to change around the story for things is never good, it's why we didn't get the original second half the writer wanted.
As for Gunbuster, it's one of my all time favorites. I love everything about it. For Diebuster, I knew it wouldn't be more Gunbuster so I enjoyed it for what it was, and I absolutely loved the ending.
I think this chart I made accurately sums it up.
I haven't watched Aim for the Ace yet, and I felt the Smith part was rushed. I guess I'll need to watch it soon.
It's seven years old now.
Nausicaa has aged well in terms of style, however I don't think it aged well in terms of content. It feels very empty and abrupt.
So? Animation hasn't improved much during that seven years.
Both the first TV show and the recap Movie are great. Maybe since I am sucker for Osamu Dezaki but they both really worth a watch. TV show is plenty fun and has a pretty cool look it. The movie is glorious with so much surreal imagery but still looks grounded in relaty. There is a BD release of it on Nyaa which is great. Once you watch it, you really understand how much Gunbuster used the series as a template.
Though I really only have two problems with the movie version. First, it doesn't show the rivalry that Oka had with Otowo, which is akin to Noriko and Reiko Kashiwara. The TV series covers that much better. Second, I like the reason Jin picked Oka in the TV series better than the reason he gives in the movie.
Still I would recommend the movie as I think it actually covers a bit father than the first show. The rest of Aim for the Ace TV series and OVAs have yet be translated.
I think watching Aim for Ace would make Gunbuster even more enjoyable to watch.
Anything with a budget that's not sci-fi/mecha. It always annoys me a little how they have giant robots and other great technology, but are still using landline phones, and the computers are shown as really clunky useless things. The monitors have shit drawn on them. The technology shown in GiTS was pretty good though. I guess that's the exception.
Animebytes says there's a movie and a 26 episode series. Does the one movie really cover everything the anime did properly?
The movie covers what first TV show did well apart from the two parts I mention.
It's a sports anime, the TV series is pretty slow and repetitive.
Wings of Honneamise. The rape scene is still relevant.
イ should be reversed.
So just watch one movie?
I typed it out and as far as I know Google IME doesn't let you reverse katakana.
It doesn't, but you could have, you know, edited it in post.
It's not a big deal, I'm just nitpicking.
I know, but I threw it together in paint in all of a minute for a thread I was in. I may fix it at some point, I may not.
If someone else fixes it, that'd be cool too.
Been watching Dirty Pair again lately and yea, a lot of it is a bit dated, but I love it like that. It's like a wonderfully enjoyable tall can of 80s I can pop open and snort down like Pacino's Scarface movie. The 80s OVA have certainly aged far, far, far better than FLASH did.
menschie is a cool guy with good taste and is an all around enjoyable chap.
I agree. I really love the OVAs too.
I own all the 80s TV show, OVAs and Films of Dirty Pair on DVD and 2 80s japanese art books of the show and I still haven't finished watching Flash. I just can't. Not even breast expanding Kei can get me to finish watch it.
Maybe one day.
T-t-thanks. I don't post that often here anymore as I barely watch anime seasonal anime, just Space Brothers, Kill La Kill and Maken Ki 2. I been going through the original Sailor Moon and about finish the first season soon.
Since there aren't that many threads about the shit I watch or like, I feel I shouldn't really post in threads not really related to my interests.
Video games are stealing all my time. Please help me.
Sure. It's pretty enjoyable.
Never sen him before. The only tripfag I've seen with good taste who actively participates in discussions by typing out well thought out posts and telling retards with low powerlevels to fuck off is LoN.
>Sure. It's pretty enjoyable.
But should I watch part of the TV series afterwards?
Also, I don't sink countless hours into video games like I used to as I don't have the time anymore, but I'm trying to play through FFIV in Japanese. It's my first game in moon. Good times.
Hoping to be able to properly understand some VNs soon.
Kill La Kill
>that brow beating plot
90's flavored garbage is still garbage.
In general though what's aged well is what had a big budget. Fore example DYRL is much more palatable than the tv series.
He seems to pop up in 80s/90s or other "retro" anime threads. I tend to see him a lot since those are the same sorts of threads that tend to attract me.
Yeah, I'm very slowly reworking my way through FLASH at this point. I remember not hating it as much as /m/ likes to purport, but damn if it isn't horribly generic 90s anime. I know I watched it all before, but I hardly remembered a thing about it and as I'm going through, I'm remembering why I don't remember it: there's just not much worth remembering.
Well the movie does spoil the first TV anime, so might not want rewatch same shit twice. The movie covers basically everything else that been subbed for far.
Really, I like the TV series but you need ask yourself: How much low budget 70s japanese animation about schoolgirls playing tennis which main demographic is young girls can I stand and can I stand it for 26 episodes?
There is no right answer. I just think the movie does a pretty good job summing up the first TV anime but there is still merit of watching the TV show.
Still, there is original manga, The New Aim for the Ace, Aim for the Ace! 2, and Aim for the Ace! Final Stage which are untranslated.
Alright then, I'll just watch the movie.
If I see any "old" anime threads I usually go in them because they tend to keep the "20 whole animes" crowd away as they really haven't watched or even heard of enough to shitpost there, so I'm sure I'll see you at some point and I'll let you know what I thought of the movie, and if it changed how I look at Gunbuster. It's already one of my favorites though, I can't see myself liking it any more, maybe just appreciating some of the influences.
Was a great movie, still a great movie. Fight me.
I started watching Dirty Pair recently and it looks surprisingly great.
Hopefully you're watching the good one.
Not him, but there are 2 (or is this a "pair" joke)?
What's the difference?
Nevermind, I see 4 OVA series, 2 TV series and a movie.
Which ones do I watch and in what order?
Chars motivation is unclear and Amuros fagottry to stop the meteor was stupid.
There's just one thing about this that just holds it back for me, Quess.
There's the 80s series and OVAs and movies. Those are the good ones. Some idiot got it in their head to remake Dirty Pair in the 90s and that became the much-maligned Dirty Pair FLASH. See >>101782212 for my opinion on FLASH.
Though I did like Kei's redesign, even if it's a bit twiggy.
The manga on the other hand is a timeless masterpiece
Don't worry, I'm watching the good one.
So how long until Anno gets to make his full-length adaptation of the manga that Miyazaki has been so long denying him?
So everything that isn't the 90's TV series? Easy enough.
Char's motivation is very clear, especially if you have seen Zeta.
Well-animated movies from the end of the cel animation era hold up well, even if things look a tad washed-out at times. I haven't seen many old TV shows though. Blood The Last Vampire also still looks good today despite it being I.G.'s first major attempt at digital colouring and composite. Actually, the visuals look better than a lot of things I.G. made after it.
The 80s DP still isn't all home runs, but it's certainly more memorable than the 90s stuff.
Berserk the Animated Slide Show has aged bretty good.
At least in my opinion.
I'll give it a go. I don't watch every anime in my backlog expecting it to be a masterpiece I love to death.
diebuster a shit
>HxH surpassed it long ago.
Bubblegum Crisis is still one of my favorite series despite it being cel animation from the 1980's. I guess most of today's fans prefer limited CG which almost every title uses (mostly static background with just the chars and a few other things animated). Full CG where everything can move independently (Arpeggio of Blue Steel) costs more and seems unnatural to fans used to limited animation.
As for Bubblegum Crisis, it's voice actors (except for one) could sing fairly well and three had singles or albums out before they even appeared in BGC. Thus, this anime series was able to generate quite a few interesting vocal albums and BGM tracks. The series also seems more "real" when all the vocal music tracks are by the voice actors.
BGC blu-ray rip:
BGC fanfic (the best one I know of):
Movies tend to age just fine, it's TV series that get outdated rather quickly.
Because the voice actors were also singers, each bubblegum crisis episode had a different vocal OP track.
>tfw didn't appreciate Kon's work until finish Millennium Actress.
I then proceed to find out that he died and Dream Machine wasn't fully finished by him.
>I guess most of today's fans prefer limited CG
I can't stand most CG. It looks awful and pulls me right out of whatever I'm watching.
>I then proceed to find out that he died and Dream Machine wasn't fully finished by him
At least it is not like the USA printed media market where authors (via their "Estates") keep on releasing _new_ titles under their name over a decade after their death.
8 years and it still looks better than most anime.
>I can't stand most CG. It looks awful and pulls me right out of whatever I'm watching
ALL the anime nowadays is CG. There is nothing made with cels. What you are complaining about is full animation CG instead of the limited animation CG in most anime.
Limited animation CG has most things unmoving for cost savings, thuse those objects and even chars are still background images or in the case of mirrors or windows are painted on textures. Pretty cheap ass. When you get a panning motion, the chars jitter a lot but the backgrounds are usually somewhat smooth.
Full animation (full CG) is the more expensive way to go. It's what the television ads and big budget movies use. With anime budget, the panning shots will usually show jitter of the entire frame (not just individual chars). Generally, the total jitter is less than with a limited animation pan, but to the casual viewer, they don't differentiate between jitter of both types. I'd rather see less jitter in char pans, but casual users prefer less jitter in the whole frame's motion.
I still like Burn-Up W/Excess.
The style, the music, the cyberpunk elements - all feels very nostalgic to me.
Gunbuster and Die Buster are well-made parodies, but those shows have a high entrance cost in that it requires educated fans - Gunbuster most of all. Gunbuster would repeat or even carry on some jokes started in other anime series, but due to when it came out, that meant fans needed to have watched anime from the 1980's and 1990's plus not have attention deficit disorder (ADD).
Now, you have lots of unknowledgable fans willing to post their uninformed opinion that Gunbuster is trash; what does "trash" or "shitty" even mean? I suppose they mean that they just didn't understand why so many fans thought Gunbuster was a classic. For casual fans without the background, Gunbuster will not be all that good.
Die Buster was far less dependent on prior knowledge. I was amused at how each episode tried to be more over-the-top than the prior one plus how different directors were used in order to give a different feeling. Well, at least Die Buster didn't end with "To Be Continued".
I've noticed that jitter you're talking about in panning shots in a lot of shows. I always just assumed the studio cheaped out on that one part and did 3D modeling for a background and that it did't become obvious until things were moving.