Now that Mahou Sensou is confirmed to be a major failure, which of the remaining 4 waifu wars will succeed?
Est will save the anime industry.
Woah, woah woah woah... WOAH
Is that... is that Madan no Ou? Is it getting... adapted?
Well the Vanadis LNs sell a few times more than Mahou Sensou's, so it might do okay.
The hell you've been, man? The news has been since July last year.
I guess I need to air out my rock
Are any of those good? They look like harems.
Why is MF Bunko J so based?
NGNL should be good, depending on how much budget Madhouse invests.
No idea about that Dragonar show.
And we know nearly nothing about the other two from the point of the adaption since nothing has been disclosed yet.
Going by the source, Vanadis should be great and BD will be fun to watch.
Next one on the block is No Game No Life, lets see how bad Madhouse butchers this one.
I like them all but the one I really want is the blade dance adaptation.
I hope that one sells enough for a S2 or that it gets two cours instead of 13 episodes. or worse, 10 eps.
>inb4 Madhouse gets all of the titles listed
Not just Mahou Sensou, but NGNL too? Is Madhouse going to do all 5 of them? They're also going to be busy with Mahouka.
Mahou Sensou was shit, Vanadis should be good, No Game No Life has potential as long as they don't fuck it up, and I have no idea about the other two
>Mahou Sensou is confirmed to be a major failure
This is why you should put 5 of them in one season together instead forcing it to like 1 season after the announcement.
I still fucking mad.
All of those are Harems
This. That way all that shit is contained in one season leaving the others to not be backlog.
The MC of mahou sensou is shit too, the only good thing is the cute girls and the ED by nano.
From the PV.
Main problem is that not all of them are shit.
If you're one of those harem=shit faggots don't even bother responding, please.
Dragonar and blade dance dont feel like madhouse territory.
Bunch of cute girls, tsundere main girl, harem romance and battles on the side.
Probably JCstaff or something like that.
>not all of them are shit
The five listed sure are.
So they ARE harems? Even No Game No Life? And to think that one looked interesting.
QUALITY in the PV already, oh god.
What i mean is i doubt anime staffs take that adaptation seriously because they don't enough time to actually read the source and not butchered fans hope.
>That way all that shit is contained in one season leaving the others to not be backlog.
>A season full of harem
It was my dream. I hope someday it will happen.
Kugyuu for Claire is too obvious.
Just dont reply to the idiot and he'll go away to a more active thread.
Please don't tell me it will be JC staff.
It happened already. Multiple times.
Those were horrible seasons, of course.
Studio not confirmed yet. But it's too obvious.
Maybe for people with shit taste.
The dragon girl from dragonar has to be a tsunderie, she's perfect for the character. Pretty much dragon louise
Yeah, i remember, last summer for example. It was glorious. Yahari and Maou-sama in one season.
Keep crying that the anime "ruined it", LN fags.
We all know this haremshit is bad in novel form as well.
Dragonar is airing in spring as well.
But he said Harem
Yahari and Maou-sama were in the spring.
>Poorly executed premise, shitty girls
>Interesting plot and setting, decent girls
>The most generic shit ever, designs are shit too
Huh? Dragonar is in spring? Never heard of that one. I guess Blade Dance in summer and Vandis in fall, then.
>95% of modern LN
>not geenric harem/romcom shit for losers
Dragonar is being animated by an offshoot studio of Bee Train. Which may or may not be a bad thing.
But Blade Dance has top tier girls, just like IS.
Was it? Kinda forget, but it was the best season that year. DAL aired too right?
I hope it sells like IS.
Im not a big fan of IS and how the MC is a dense black hole but it had great sales.
Reactions like this are a stupid read. Even though 2 of them had LN translations and the other 2, except for Mahou Sensou had enough info out there to write a more informed article, they based everything on the simple PV's.
I am not too optimistic, with the train wreck that Mahou Sensou is, I know how badly the others can be turned into one.
Madan is the one that has the most potential, but is also the one that a studio will screw over with budget and pacing.
It should go to one of the studio's that can handle CG the best, just so the mass battles can look at least passable, but I have no hope of that. We will likely be stuck with QUALITY.
Yeah, those were all in spring.
People are only really interested in the swords and maybe tit tsundere. And then you have the Houki, Claire, and the irrelevant, the blonde whatsherface. Fianna is still personally my favorite because she's incredibly level headed, tends to put the matter at hand above harem antics, and is the only one who always has a clue on what's going on.
NGNL is good, but Madhouse is going to rape it hard, sadly.
Seirei Tsukai no Kenbu is quite good, but not sure which studio is doing that. Seikoku no Ryuu Kishi is a hit and miss, but overall enjoyable. Never heard of the studio that's doing that, so I'm keeping my expectations at minimum level.
I don't care for Madan no Ou to Vanadis, so no comment there.
>NGNL is good, but Madhouse is going to rape it hard, sadly.
How? because of Mahou Sensou? it was easy money and not even the author expected something , why bother to make it look good.
What are you reading now /a/?
Im interested in blade dance because I love the main girl.
A series is a lot more enjoyable when the your favorite girl has the "main girl" spot and it can be painful when she's just a side character or doomed to suffer.
Choose your poison.
That's incredibly true. I am not a big fan of Claire personally, if only because her development is pretty meh and the fact she gets handed power ups like no tomorrow. Though I can't really complain since Fianna gets power ups, even if it's only to get her on par with everyone else.
I'll take claire, I really like her and I find her extremely cute.
Infinite Heart looks like Best girl with 69 and 81 tied in second place
I choose Kamito.
Great MC and great girls, lets hope it does well.
And that someone better than madhouse picks it up.
MS was one of their worst, if not their worst to date. But it's not just that, Madhouse has a history of bad adaptations. They're J.C. Staff tier when it comes to adaptations.
>They'll erase his awesomeness and make him like an idiot in anime.
I hope not, dont crush my hopes like that anon.
is she a tsundere gets mad hits mc? otherwise fuck that shit
You have a good eyes, anon. Only
91 >= infinity > 69
That one is pretty good, pretty obvious harem, might as well call it the harem platoon.
I think I prefer the slighly grittier novel artwork compared to the manga artwork.
Kamito Tier: Kamito
Rubia Tier: Rubia
Elder God Tier: Restia, Est
God Tier: Claire, Mirelle
High Tier: Rinslet, Ellis
Mid Tier: Fianna
Tsuki tsuki really needs to be adaptated too, all the girls are top tier there.
Yes she is.
I never watched mahou sensou (nor read its threads) and this made me curious. Why should I not watch it?
Vanadis and NGNL will be good. Blade dance will be shit.
>I don't care for Madan no Ou to Vanadis, so no comment there.
LET ME TELL YOU ABOUT A MAN NAMED TIGREVURMUD VOLN, EARL OF THE TERRITORY OF ALSACE IN THE FAIR LAND OF BRUNE.
A man who, when he was a young lad, went on a hunting trip and stumbled across a ferocious earth dragon, fought it, and won. A man who could put arrows through your eyes and each and every orifice of your body at 300 alsin. A man who faced down the woman who slaughtered his fellow countrymen wielding a supernatural power knowing she could kill him, yet stood his ground to try and take her down too. A man who broke from his homeland to bring justice to those who would have burned his home down and enslaved his people. A man who led and helped lead his outnumbered troops to victory time after time. A man who wields a bow blessed by the Goddess of Death herself. A man who suffered discrimination and scorn at the hands of his countrymen for his talent at archery and yet fought for his country anyway. A man who led a mere two-thousand men against more than ten times that number and prevailed. A man who has charmed not only his personal maid, but the future queen of his nation and at least four of seven warrior princesses of the neighbouring territory of Zchted. A man who took an almost fatal blow in a duel with a legendary knight, and yet rose the next day to do battle with him again. A man who brought about the end of the civil war in Brune, and who went on to end the civil war in the island of Asvarre. A man who has shot down dragons and fought demons thought only to exist in stories and lived to tell the tale. A man who is presently lost at sea coming back from Asvarre due to a sea dragon attack, which he killed as it pitched him into the waves.
Its not bad but its not good either, im watching it because I like the battles and the girls.
It's terrible and it's not even so bad it's good. Have you see HnA? If you have, I can tell you that HnA is better and more enjoyable than MS despite being pretty terrible itself.
>Better than Blade Dance
Anon pls. Let's not start.
>Ren Ashbell tier: Kamito
No matter how awesome it would be, probably right now simply too late. The series is ~13 novels in, and if they were going to do so, they would have announced one already.
Don't know how often a series gets announced when it is already 13 or more books in.
I'm on vol9 right now, but i heard something happened on vol10 that make PROzess stop translating.
Don't forget Vanadis author actual killed one of main girl
What a MF Bunko J series
Wait. I just realized my mistake.
Kamito Tier: Kamito
Rubia Tier: Rubia
Elder God Tier: Restia, Est
God Tier: Claire, Mirelle, Rinslet
High Tier: Fllis
Mid Tier: Fianna
A man who the denizens of /a/ will call "GARY STU GARY STU! HURR DURR".
But Vanadis is actually pretty good while Blade Dance is shit.
Yeah, i like how they handle the friendship (which actually a harem) in a team. I got that feeling from Rising x Rydeen too but it has some betrayals among them.
The fact that you put Fianna, the only useful human, in mid tier is clearly shit taste.
You're implying that they'll be wrong.
Fight me, anon.
He's at least right about that.
Because they are.
Watch as anime only shitposting faggots treat Tigre as if he has the same character depth as Kirito from SAO and Tatsuya from Mahouka just because he excels at archery.
Author is so based. I read his other work too. He likes medieval era setting.
>a history of bad adaptations
Aha; and which studio has a history full of good adaptations? A-1? Deen? AIC? Satelight? Let me guess, Mahou Sensou by SHAFT?
I ended picking up the manga because of this page, too badass for me.
But thats unfair, Tigre only has archery but he's the best at it.
Kirito has all god mode on MMOs and tatsuya has god mode in everything.
How do you even live with that shit taste?
Meant god mode on all mmos, messed that up.
Vanadis is the only good one. NGNL and Blade Dance are mediocre. Dragner is shit.
>Losing against Elen
>Losing against Lu Bu
>Losing against Pervert Monster's plan and made him loss his memories.
Tigre grow as the story goes.
It's actually going to be the fact he can almost do everything and win. God-like bow skills that can't be beat doesn't help.
I hope you do realize that LN Kirito actually has more depth in comparison to Tigre. Alicization helped a lot in that regard.
All of the MC of this upcoming series are beta?
Maybe dragonar MC but the rest are badass MCs.
Did this start getting an actual translation or is it still all machine?
The actual translations are worse than the machine translations.
The actual translation is worse than the machine one.
All machine, Volume 6/7 is by someone bad at english.
Dragonar isn't shit. It's decent. NGNL is good and better than Vanadis and Blade Dance. For Vanadis and Blade Dance, it's more like a tie. Matter of preference will decide for people who they'll think is better between the two. Vanadis might have the edge in MC, but Blade Dance have the edge with its girls.
I hope the anime has cool swords or at least better swords.
Dragonar MC is beta? More like his dragon is the tsundere and beta one.
Oh god who thought that was a good idea?
Oh man. It's been a while.
The dragon abuses him and calls him meat slave.
The other MCs do badass things and tease the girls.
Nah, Seikoku no Ryuu Kishi's MC is pretty badass. He doesn't take shit from anything when he gets serious. At other times, he's pretty down to earth/kinda goofs off and give in to his dragon loli tsundere for cute moments.
You seem to have read it.
Can you tell me how fat I need to read the translated manga to cover the first LN?
Since the first LN is not translated but 2+ are.
Anybody reading Maou na Ore to Fushihime no Yubiwa?
Red dragon looks like the cutest one ther
Honestly at first i didn't get that feeling when i read the LN.
But when i read the manga i know she is actually blushing all the time make my heart hurt.
I haven't read the LN, sorry. I've only read the manga.
Iris is the cutest for sure.
>there are people who wouldn't pick Ghoul in that situation.
Her older self is such a big change though. If you can't tell, Iris is on the right.
>Translation has the translators "hilarious" comments on a lot of pages
Dear god why, I hate this kind of thing.
I dont care about these horrible comments, I just want to read the manga.
The manga really fucked up the fight scene. In the novel she was losing because she didn't want to go ghoul form in front of Chiharu. I was disappointed at the lack of ghoul form since it should have been there.
Then ignore the comments? Honestly I don't even pay attention to those kind of comments on the sides or in between spaces.
>Madhouse is going to rape it
Even if they don't, I can already see it being 10 episodes only and S2 never.
He didn't stop, he just didn't like one of the chapters, so killed some motivation.
He also is/was not getting enough comments on it
I hope you guys aren't talking about the LN, I actually thought the TL was pretty good, no way it could be machine.
The first 5 are a machine translation.
It was just heavily edited.
Starting volume 6 it got an actual translator who managed to make it worse.
If you didn't know, Vanadis was entirely machine translated through Volume 5. Volume 6 and Volume 7 are actual translations and they're worse quality.
Well setsuna is getting better at english.
The worst thing is that there is a serious lack of quality editors.
It's probably more.
Jibril was already revealed and the character page is still missing 6 slots.
You can see it clearly at his Asterisk translations, that he invested some time to improve his English.
I think Vanadis 8 will be okay.
We kind of are, and it'll serve its purpose, but there are several instances in the preview text (the machine-translated stuff) with vocab confusion, particularly:
Which has always asspained me
>how much budget Madhouse invests.
They've been putting a lot of work into their website. The backgroud/concept art for the site is amazing.
He's a count, you plebeian.
Takes balls to kill a girl who was on one of the covers and considered a future haremette. I like his spunk.
There are some issues, but looking over asterisk which is another pretty good harem novel one of the issues is a lack of editors.
I think also Asterisk is easier to translate then Madan, once you get past the chuu language and special attacks.
A lot of his phrasing issues could be solved by some quality through editing. It is easy enough to read and comprehend right now.
Read the prologue for volume 8, and while an improvement, it was still a pretty damn stiff translation. There's been several edits since then, but I don't recall any of them being major ones.
We also had a short discussion on some Madan no Ou terms in a scanlation thread the other day, about how the author loves using Russian words. We also learned he was using a phrase ungrammatically (Lussian, so to speak), but to get the point I was trying to make, Setsuna apparently doesn't realize some of the terms are Russian, as I recall him translating one of them as "rook" in his earlier translations.
Madan no Ou's translators really have sucked with the terminology.
I am reading Asterisk, its pretty "standard" but enjoyable.
As far as translations go, if we are lucky, the series is translated by someone like zzhk or js06 , who has a good understanding of the english language and it flows easily.
A lot of times we are working with someone else, who is at least able to get it more accurate then a machine translation and the English is understandable, but not really smooth flowing.
Been reading this, or trying to. Finding some of the lines a little hard to grasp with my level of moon, but an alright read so far.
Mahou Sensou was practically unknown out of those 5.
It only stood out because for some strange reason, its manga adaption was serialized in a shoujo magazine.
Also, it was dead on arrival once we heard Madhouse was adapting Mahou Sensou because Madhouse is shit tier with LN anime adaptions.
Madhouse changes too much shit and Madhouse anime-original endings are absolutely horrible.
I can't wait for NGNL.
The "chess" party against Kurami will be amazing, animated.
It all depends on Sora's Seiyuu.
In terms of novel sales, it goes: Blade Dance > Vanadis >>>>>>>>>>> Dragonar > NGNL >>> Mahou Sensou
Maybe that gives some indication about budget.
>if we are lucky
This reminds me of the one anon who was interested in translating Madan but didn't want to compete with Sestuna's stiff but quick translations.
It seems most LN translators aren't native English or Japanese speakers. For example, Setsuna's apparently German.
The only thing I want from NGNL is this girl
Steph abuse is a given.
>It seems most LN translators aren't native English or Japanese speakers. For example, Setsuna's apparently German.
Thats the reason why I skip on reading LN translations most of the time.
Also, this seems like a good time to ask.
Is the blade dance LN translation a good/quality translation or just another bad/terrible translation? Who's working on that?
Blade Dance is mostly translated by zzhk starting volume 6.
So it's probably one of the best you will ever get.
So what popular LN's haven't had anime series lined up yet?
Also, is it wrong I'm looking forward to flag girls next season?
>decide to watch mahou senou because of the breast expansion and sexy body morphin
>doubt there will be anything good other than episode 1
Fuck this show, it needs to set its priorities straight.
That whole "forced love" thing is a fetish I didn't know I had.
Give an example of something you thought had a bad translation.
Anyway, several different translators worked on Blade Dance. Volumes translated by zzhk are good, the ones by Mizuho aren't so good.
Read the first chapter of the manga. Do the lead characters get less dickish? Always struggle to enjoy series where I hate the MC(s)
I dont know, I dont read LN translations so I wanted to ask people who do and know about this stuff.
Looks like its good so I'll give it a try
The guy doing the later novel translations is pretty good. The earlier ones were pretty bad, but honestly, you can probably stand some terrible wording if you want to read Blade Dance's level of harem antics.
I like the series, but the complete disregard of character personalities and character backgrounds somewhat bothers me. Like how Kamito is a trained assassin with attachment issues, but nothing aside from stated backstory ever shows this. Or how Claire, a tsundere who can't be straight or simply not stutter, is apparently the best socializer on the campus.
"love potions gone wrong" is my fetish.
Shame I only really know of two hentai with it. Magical Witch acadamy and a one shot where a guy wishes for world domination and a demon mishears it as sailor fuku so all girls in uniforms want to fuck him.
I don't understand how anyone could dislike Sora and Shiro.
Dungeon and Aldermin don't have translations or an anime, but are apparently pretty popular over there.
The problem with LN translations is you really need to be a decent writer to pull them off. It's one thing a translation being accurate, it's another translations being good to read.
Im really looking forward to flag girls next season too, I cant wait.
I hope the manga translation picks up and goes faster after the anime airs or while its airing.
It getting the sales boost it needs from the anime would be perfect too.
That sounds interesting. Spice and Wolf but with adventuring rather than commerce?
Reminds me. The massive amounts of "furigana" in the Madan translations are really distracting, as well as the random parenthesized words that usually mean the same thing. And the huge amount of translator notes explaining what any native English speaker already knows and don't actually explain any translation shit.
It's like he went out of his way to be annoying.
I found the notes in volume 7 rather funny.
Him explaining obvious things made me chuckle.
>Spice and Wolf but with adventuring rather than commerce?
Going by the manga, that's basically it. Hestia adorable.
Hey take that back. Oda Nobuna was good.
so skipping blade dance and Dragonar , cant stand loli tsundere shit girls
They're not shit, they're good. It's truly your loss for not liking tsundere.
Yeah, it's decent. It's MF Bunko J's replacement for IS since it left them for Overlap Bunko. Much better than IS, better MC, better girls, better setting(6 competing schools > 1 giant school).
>They're not shit, they're good.
Different guy, but I really, really don't like Claire. I could give a shit if she's tsundere or not, but I really hate the way she pulls it off and interacts with others. Basically, seeing her be sacrificed in the novel would make me so happy. Obviously won't happen, though.
The story about how my life got flipped upside down.
>he will be working on three series at once (four if you count Sword Art Online: Progressive separately from the main series, he mused)
Wish that got updated faster, but at least two of the translators know what they're doing, even if I disagree with keeping of Japanese honorifics in that setting.
>pulls it off and interacts with others.
Please explain because you lost me.
I find her to be nothing short of a bitch and her character interactions with the MC or others to be uninteresting.
She is too close to Loise. thats why I dread if its JC Failure since you know its going to be ZnT again ...
Really? Her tsun isn't that high. She's around Taiga's level of tsun ratio. Do you think even Taiga is a bitch?
>character interactions with the MC or others to be uninteresting.
I can't agree with this at all.
That's not correct. Eco is closer to Louise, but has a heft mix of Petralka. Claire is more like a mesh of Shana & Taiga plus early Haqua
Claire is more Shana than Louise.
That is why I said JC Failure, even Louise isnt as bad in the LN, the studio just cut parts and exaggerated the rest.
You think they would not do the same with Claire?
I generally think any character who attacks someone because the victim didn't do something they (seemingly) like is a bitch.
The reason I find her uninteresting is probably mostly from her shoehorned bullshit. Her average spirit actually being super special, having amazing bloodline powers out of fuck nowhere and can use them simply because she's a genius despite not holding a candle to nearly every real fighter, suddenly the plot important queen when it was hyped to be someone else, can't get into a team due to her personality yet is apparently known for being sociable. She's like a walking contradiction and asspull.
I don't even particularly like Claire, but I think you are reading way too much into this.
>Her average spirit actually being super special, having amazing bloodline powers out of fuck nowhere and can use them simply because she's a genius despite not holding a candle to nearly every real fighter
Known from the start as being an Elstein treasure. She just couldn't full utilize it yet. And it was Restia who powered her up.
>suddenly the plot important queen when it was hyped to be someone else
It was always Rubia's plan. The other bitch wanted Fianna just to go against Rubia.
>can't get into a team due to her personality yet is apparently known for being sociable
I only remember her being good at negotiations, it never said anything about her being sociable. Everything in the novel indicates she isn't good at personal relationships. It's been a while since I've read it though, so I may be missing something.
How's that machine translation? Also lately they found some interesting LN, shame my moon level is still shallow.
>How's that machine translation
I'm not using a machine, though? Using online dictionaries to help my stupid ass out, yes, but not Google Translate or anything.
Been wanting to check out Tate Yuusha myself too, or at least its manga. But no one scans Flapper, so I'm hoping a friend can snag it for me.
At least he's done with Shinmai Maou first volume. Now i i'm looking for Shomin Sample translation while hope someone in this world kind enough to translate pic related.
Been meaning to check the manga for that out. The concept of 'let's overdo the harem setting to the point of destroying the world' interested me.
I don''t think Blade Dance is going to be done by J.C. Staff. I hope not, anyways.
That's a pretty vague way to define bitch, anon. And even in that case, shouldn't reasons and understanding play apart in determining if hitting is acceptable? In Clare's case, she just isn't good at handling interacting with other people due to her lack of social skills, common sense, and poor interpersonal communication skills. On the flip side, it's adorable to see growth from less hitting as the story progresses. One can argue it's endearing because the tsundere hits because she's reacting to something she doesn't like stems usually for pure related reasons like perversion or embarrassment from denied or over conflicted feelings.
Well, anon>>101751094 kinda already addressed the points I was going to comment on.
Clare belongs to house Elstein. Her Spirit is high rank and has been hinted as one. Once Rubia came into the scene, you should had gotten the feeling that Claire's Spirit might be special in some way too, so it's not sudden or an asspull.
＞itsuka tenma no kuro usagi character designs
yes i want to experience that again
adding to this, Claire isn't any more violent than, say, Ellis.
If you were to complain about something regarding Claire, it's that Kamito bends over backwards for her whenever she has a tantrum. She usually runs away when this happens, not act violent.
Heh, I tought it's Nourin