What will Madoka do to Akuma Homura when she finds out what she did?
The one thing that could hurt Homura the most.
What is on this picture? What are they offering? What is this? Why does Japan have such things. Fuck them I want all on this poster even though I don't know what it is.
That would be typical of Madoka. Mary Sue
Just buy a plane ticket to Japan and buy it. What are you, a poorfag?
She's an archetypical messiah. So yeah, literally the Mariest of Sues.
Madoka wearing the uniform of the Lotte burger chain
I bet girls who watch madoka self insert into her.
She'll go "Ehhhhhhhhhhh?"
I'd like to self-insert into her, if you know what I mean
<- Madoka by other mangaka artist
Reminder that the lowest level of hell is reserved for traitors and Homura is exactly that.
Thank her, since Homura did everything right. Then join her in conquering the universe.
Madoka would never defeat or even fight Homura anyway. She can't do anything.
CLAMP Homu is cute
By Hideo Azuma
B-but my Japanese animes told me that no one wants to buy Christmas Cake after December 25
Shoujo style madoka is so much better.
I always thought Homura was the submissive one..
This feels so wrong to me.
Homu what are you doing
Asuka as fuck, and I am completely OK with this
That image doesn't really disprove your fanfic. Madoka isn't sub in that.
Bullshit, Homu is clearly on the advance.
She'll hug the Homu until she stops crying.
She will always be bottom, no even with rewriting the universe will change that.
She'll do something cute. Because everything Madoka does is cute.
How does Homura being on the advance make Madoka a sub? She's not all nervous and receding and what not. She's not even blushing. It's kind of creepy actually. It's like she doesn't even notice Homu grabbing her hair.
And Madoka is totally fine with it.
Homura is just being more affectionate and selfish with her feelings for Madoka.
She was on bottom for AI YO, and she was certainly in charge of things there.
Thank Homura for always fixing thing for her and make the wolrd become a better place.
Spoiling tagging your idiocy doesn't make it excusable.
Damn that thumbnail makes OP's image look very lewd.
Anyone got that "local girl ruins everything" edit with Homu?
Would it be wrong if I wanted Madoka to rape me in the ass?
No, but I have the headline for the movie after Rebellion.
Yes it would. Our lady and savior sees what you're doing and disapproves.
That doesn't change the fact that Homura is a submissive person, with a single smile of Madoka and she's going to be all nervous and awkward as always.
Madoka is the only one who brings that side of her out, but maybe it's dead now and she's the dominant one since AI YO.
Madoka and Homura will never have sex.
She might be surprised if Madoka is bold, but I think she'll just return the affection. After all, she's not holding back anymore.
A cheek rub is fine too.
>but maybe it's dead now and she's the dominant one since AI YO.
She's just wearing another mask and Madoka is the only who can rip that mask in half.
Love her tenderly
What if a meguca were to use her wish to curse someone rather than create hope? Would they become a witch immediately? Would they become a witch first and a meguca later? Would QB tell them to quit trying to fuck up the system?
This, Madoka is going to charisma-break Akuma hard,
>Homura-chan, don't cry!
So, I was reading the story of Madoka Online and shit is pretty fucking good, the characters are well represented, the interaction between characters is great, it's almost a shame that is not canon. Anyone know who wrote the script?
Also, why the fuck the last mission of quest 15 isn't translated?
>still liking this shit
the thread were fun but get over it fags
I can get behind this.
Homura: You still don't understand? Sakura Kyouko, it's not like you to care this much about others.
Homura: First of all, you all should know by now. That romance is normally unfathomable for magical girls. It leads to nothing but sorrow.
Homura: So focus on battle. I would like you all to be prepared for Walpurgisnacht.
Madoka: Stop it already, Homura-chan!
Madoka: You've been so strange lately, Homura-chan. Nothing you've been saying has made any sense. You keep hurting Sayaka-chan and everyone else.
Madoka: ...I'm sorry for yelling. But I really do think that you're being mean, Homura-chan.
Madoka: ...Let's go guys. Homura-chan's probably just tired today, is all.
Madoka: I mean, back when we were at the hospital, I was being nothing but a burden to her, after all...
Homura:...Why? Why would Madoka say such things to me...?
Homura: Madoka, you don't understand. You don't know how dangerous the coming battles will be.
Homura: Nor how much I worry about you...
Pst, this may blow your mind. So be weary. People change.
I think they're bullying Mami.
I'm not sure if I can get behind that, but I'll give it a try.
Homura never has any masks, stop forcing your stupid shit.
She always hated her moemura past. And Akuma is the result of her insanity after Madoka left Bowmura alone.
>Homura never has any masks
I bet you think Mami and Kyouko don't wear a mask too.
Homura; I won't be able to protect you during the fight with Walpurgisnacht.
Homura: So I want you to get as far from town as possible.
Homura: Please understand, Madoka!
Madoka: ...I mustn't run away. I mustn't lose.
Madoka: If I run away, then what will happen to this town!?
Madoka: What will happen to Mom, and Dad, and my little brother, and Hitomi-chan!?
Madoka: There's still time before Walpurgisnacht arrives. And above all else, there's still the others.
Madoka: If we give it our very best with everyone else, I'm sure we can win! We can protect this town!
Homura: I've seen it over and over.
Homura: How you and the other magical girls die.
Madoka: Even so, I mustn't run away!
Madoka: I can't leave my friends and family, and everyone else behind and just run away alone! I can't do that!
Homura: After all I've said, you still won't understand?
They aren't important.
Madoka: I'm sorry, Homura-chan.
Madoka: I used to think that everything I did was useless. That I was useless.
Madoka: And that I'd always be that way. I had given up.
Madoka: But then I became a magical girl, and learned that I could at least be a little useful to others,
Madoka: And now I've got friends to fight by my side...
Madoka: There are so many precious people I want to protect! I can't just abandon them!
Homura: Why? How? You'll die, you know!?
Madoka: Well yeah, I am afraid. Very afraid. But still, if I can protect my friends and those precious to me,
Madoka: Then I won't run away from being a magical girl!
Madoka: I'm sorry, Homura-chan.
Madoka: I know you're worried about me, but still.
Homura: Quit it!
Homura: Why can't you realize... that there are people there who would be sad to lose you?
Homura: What about the people who tried to protect you!?
Madoka: Still, no matter what happens to me, I absolutely cannot abandon everyone else.
Madoka: I'm sorry...
Homura: (Madoka... Me too. No matter what happens to me, I'll protect you.)
Homura: (Even if that means I have to fight alone!!)
No, they aren't.
looks like Madoka online has some other main character(you?) that fucks up the time lines and makes everything much better and carefree somehow, since everyone seems to be working together with no problems
How is that relevant?
Homura hasn't weared any mask when she teared Madokami part. Or do you think Moemura could do it?
And she just doesn't need mask as devil, because she absolutely doesn't care what people think about her.
The power of MC (you) is to "synchronize the energy" of magical girls, this means that they can better understand the emotions of each other and get along better, except Homura that for some reason can't synchronize at all.
Cry a lot.
that certainly sounds like Homura
So that just makes Homura the problem rather than magical girls. Madoka will now consider Homura a big meanie for talking about Walmart Night, heh.
Is there a prelude to how this happens? Where is QB in all of this?
Whatever you want, because movie trilogy and probably whole series are over.
Fuck, I forgot that I just posted a detailed summary of that on /vg/ instead of actually translating it on the wiki. I'm getting on it.
hahahahaha. Silly anon.
>Homu can't sync because she's not from that timeline
Ok, call me when they announce something.
I won't call you as I don't have your number, but there will probably be a few threads about it.
>Is there a prelude to how this happens?
Don't know what you mean by this
>Where is QB in all of this?
Doing the same old thing
Homura: Then why did you come here?
Kyubey: Since it looks like this is the end, there's one last thing I wanted to tell you. Through your repeated backtracking through time, you've experienced countless frustrations, and now hold deep despair within your heart. So I had thought that I could've collected a huge amount of energy from you in the end.
Kyubey: And yet, in the end, instead of giving off any energy, you're just going to be done in by an ordinary witch. Truly a pity.
Homura: No... what... what are you trying to say?
Kyubey: Nothing but the truth. I won't do any unnecessary intervention.
Kyubey: Or... have you fallen to despair, Akemi Homura?
Kyubey: No good? Then I'll be on my way. Allow me to see how things go through to the end.
You can printscreen and laugh at me later.
But I'm sure it won't happen in next 5 years or more.
>But I'm sure it won't happen in next 5 years or more.
hahaha, I'm laughing at you now. No need to printsrc because of archive anyway newshit.
Okay, it's up.
>Don't know what you mean by this
I guess the player-who-fixes-all-problems is just dropped in.
Also from that dialogue, it seems like QB is targeting Homura, not Madoka. Maybe he's behind the synchronization player thing.
In Madoka Online, the player is Homura's ace in the sleeve. The karmic buildup ends up focusing on you rather than on Madoka for this reason, since Homura noticed that you've been getting stronger each loop, and has pretty much been banking on you for the last few loops.
The main story actually covers two loops. The first one Sayaka fucks up again and becomes a witch, which tears the team apart. The second loop, your power has become so strong that everyone's soul gems (except Homura's) shine during battle, and everyone (except Homura) can predict each other's moves for greater synergy.
Kyubey refers to both you and Homura as irregulars, and since you're basically stealing Madoka's karma hax, it's only natural that Kyubey wouldn't be targeting Madoka.
The second and third world's of Madoka Online's story are just lighthearted fun, like Madoka fainting during a witch hunt and Homura thinking it's her fault for being so weak that Madoka has to cover for her, so Homura gets Sayaka and Kyoko to train her. Their training regiment consists of video game sleepovers, eating lots of food, and karaoke. It turns out that Madoka was just weak from dieting because she wanted to be as slender as Homura.
World 3 is "let's bully Mami" world. Everyone notices that Mami's been acting strange, so they all tell a Mami-related story that would explain why she might be acting that way. Still unresolved for the past 7 months goddammit devs.
Yeah, that's normal for games, don't know if later they explained her past and wish because we only have one season of three translated (I think).
And no, the MC doesn't fix everything, in fact makes things worse for Homura because she can't synchronize with the other, which ends with Homura stressed out moreand QB putting more attention to Homura instead of Madoka which is already a magical girl.
>World 3 is "let's bully Mami" world.
What does she plan to do by stealing the karma?
Maybe this online thing is a potential explanation for Homura's new world, or her barrier world. Where they're all spamming a million magic attacks without worrying about soul gem corruption, they're all fighting on a team, they're all getting along.
Sure, but everyone is fighting on one team and there doesn't seem to be a "balance" to hope and despair. Everything is just going really well for everyone else except Homura, I guess. Maybe Mami too?
2nd loop of world 1 is basically hell for Homura.
Everyone's happy and getting along.
Everyone intuitively understands what Mami's been through.
Kyoko lives with Mami and they've reconciled.
Sayaka isn't a bitch.
Everyone's having fun (except for Homura, who's paranoid that it's all going to come tumbling down again since everything's too oddly convenient)
>You two are living together? But you're supposed to hate each other!
>Homura-chan, that's rude! Apologize to Mami-san and Kyoko-chan right now!
you are weird
You're thinking too much into this, anon.
You are the weird, Homura will always be the submissive one, no matter how much she cries and scream, that will never change.
If you say so. It all seems a little too convenient to me. Remember the vita game.
Maybe there's something more to it, maybe not.
>The protagonist uses "Madoka-san" and "Homura-san"
That's kinda cute.
You are bad for saving lewd madohomu.
When did Madoka become Detective Conan?
Also, I enjoyed when they did that for I think Jojo or something else. Nisio gave just a page of writing vs everyone else drawing art.
Is not lewd if they love each other, anon.
>Not saving lewd Madohomu
I want to watch a CLAMP Madoka
Nah fuck you. MadoHomu is never supposed to be lewd.
>there will never be another anime as epic as Madoka
Exactly, they love each other making it pure.
Yes, there will be.
It's called Sayaka's Happy School Life it's by Nisio
>Good girl Madoka ever topping lovedevil-ascending Homura
I don't understand, they win in the end with the power of friendship? Madoka doesn't become a witch at the end or nothing? If that's the case then why there's another timereset?
can't we have both
I like both
Read the last two lines closely.
>You truly were... the strongest magical girl.
Also, that's the end of World 1 (the protagonist's story).
World 2 is glasses Homura trying to get stronger for Madoka's sake.
World 3 is "What the fuck's wrong with Mami".
The protagonist isn't mentioned at all in World 2 or 3.
It's not lewd because there's no sex just hugging and maybe kissu. MadoHomu is pure.
Only when Ai arrives.
Why is Sayaka such a bitch?
Why do you have a death wish?
Why love yourself when you can love a Madoka?
Quick, we need to feed him hetshit before he goes berserk
She had like, one speaking line total. Maybe she's still around and just never speaks or is spoken to.
You can't really love others without loving yourself first, anon.
>giving the troll what he wants
Why would you do that
>Still lives with parents at 14
I laughed harder than i should've.
That is pretty cute. :3
Depends on what you mean by "loving yourself".
>Maybe she's still around and just never speaks or is spoken to.
What you call "lewd", I call it the" beautiful expression of two girls showing their love for each other", maybe you are the lewd one here, anon.
It would be nice if that was OC, but it was just ripped off of some shit.
Perhaps. Some of it is beautiful but most of it is just fap material for pigs who don't really like MadoHomu. Your pic is an example of the former though, so it's okay.
Back to /u/ with you, faggot.
I'm comfortable enough with my canon pairing that I'm cool with it.
pic not related?
that's how exploitables work, yes.
You are the pig here, all MadoHomu is pure and beautiful.
It's less about "being comfortable with canon pairing" and more about not giving trolls what they want(or what you think they want).
Anyone willing to take the series seriously likes the canon pairings.
There's nothing pure about >>101729449 or >>101729418. They're just garbage for pigs. Pic related and yours are pure though.
I like how Sakura Trick has also brought /u/cancer that makes it impossible to actually discuss anything in Madoka threads.
Is the heart that wishes Sayaka was their waifu really so bad that it needs to be judged~?
>implying these threads have been any different since 2011
How fucking new are you
But they love each other, anon. You can't censor their love.
/u/ is mostly fine actually. When a thread has a good topic, they don't shitpost. The only minor problem recently is that Rebellion screened in Austria.
Get that garbage out of here. Madoka and Homura aren't into that shit. Fuck off with your impure MadoHomu. Post pure MadoHomu.
/u/ was a thing in Madoka threads since this scene, faggot.
Dykecancer defense force detected.
Fuck off back to /u/
>What will Madoka do to Akuma Homura when she finds out what she did?
War in Heaven
Followed by HateSex
Please understand the difference between /u/ and t/u/mblr.
Now I'm curious about Madoka Online, how do you get into it? Does it require a proxy?
You're nobody to decide how they express their love or call it impure.
Ignore bait, fools! If anyone wasn't trolling, the obvious solution would be to try and spark a conversation topic besides /u/. If someone is just trying to start shit, there's no need to bother.
>Anyone know who wrote the script?
You're right. Only they can decide. And based on what I've seen, they don't like bondage or any of your shitty fetishes. They like pure hugs and luminous.
Probably someone from SHAFT or Nitro+.
Homura likes bondage, there's no other explanation for why she keep getting trapped in Mami ribbons
Yeah there is. Mami just traps her.
She keeps getting caught over and over again and she knows that comes and she always blushes, it is obvious that she like it on some level, nobody can resist the Mami after all.
Every timeline isn't identical also she doesn't blush. Megucas have permablush because Ume. MamiHomu does not exist go read Kirara if you want that though.
>Nearly 100 timelines
>still falling for the same shit when Madoka's soul is at stake
Nope, Homura likes it.
As long as it's between them, I don't care. You can't discard lewd completely, that's no fun.
I discard whatever Homura and Madoka wouldn't like. So far that's everything save hugs, luminous. Kissu hasn't been demonstrated (yet) but it doesn't seem too uncharacteristic.
>MamiHomu does not exist
What? They are teacher and student that develop a relationship of rivals and hatesex.
Hatesex is HomuSaya. Also Homura doesn't like Mami unfortunately.
In Madoka's case it's not a question of whether she is lewd or not, but rather of when she becomes aware that she is.
Nah Madoka isn't lewd either. The only lewd shit she did was the butt bump and that was in the op so it's questionable.
HomuSaya is just shit, and Homura doesn't say she doesn't like Mami, she says she doesn't know how to deal with her.
It doesn't matter what Homura likes
Mami doesn't like Homura either though. They're both too arrogant to work well together. One will always think they're right. They're like oil and water.
>Mami doesn't like Homura either though.
Now you're just being an idiot.
It's true. Did you watch the series? Mami doesn't trust Homura no matter the situation, even during casual tea time in Rebellion.
Don't trust someone and disliking someone are two different things.
You're basically saying that Sayaka never liked Kyouko just because it happens in one timeline.
Mami likes all girls younger than her.
It's not even just a trust issue, do you see the way they talk to each other? Recall episodes 1 and 3 especially.
Remember that Mami take a Homura as her apprentice? Seriously, what you say happened in a single timeline where Homura specifically plays the role of antagonist.
Next Luminous pls when?
>specifically plays the role of antagonist.
Homura's not really being antagonistic, she's just being matter of fact and blunt. But that's besides the point. It definitely wasn't just one timeline where Homura went Homurambo because that started in timeline 3 (and did so for up to 100 more if you take Gen's word). Pair this with the fact that Homura never cared about Mami as much as she did Madoka despite Mami being kind to her as well (though not as close to her as Madoka) and you have a strong case that Mami and Homura don't like each other. Not to mention Homura even says it in Rebellion irrc (though I may be wrong haven't watched Rebellion in 2 months).
Has Madoka been cutting herself in that?
Don't forget the boob grab.
Putting blatant sexual lust on screen would detract from the pairing/relationship/story in most peoples eyes, and they're mostly right. Still, I'm sure they can be more intimate than hugs after all they've been through.
You can make the case that Homura doesn't care about Mami but that is because Homura doesn't care about anyone who is not pink, you can't make the case with Mami who obviously cares about all her friends, and as I said, they just don't know how to get along (like Sayaka and Kyouko) that doesn't mean they don't like each other.
Anon, they don't get along, they don't trust each other, they regularly insult and mock each other. Sounds like they don't like each other to me.
>they regularly insult and mock each other
Go see all the moments that Mami and Moemura have again then, they get along perfectly well in normal circumstances, it is only when the truth of the magical girls come out that their relationship is broken, Homura's scared of that moment so she avoids Mami all together.
Rewatch episodes 1 and 3.
So they get along in a fantasy world where there's no conflict. Uhh, ok.
Are you being stupid on purpose? Timeline 1 and 2.
Mami says she'll let Homura off for trying to kill QB, and she doesn't trust Homura to try and keep Sayaka safe from Charlotte so she ties her up.
Homura was acting like a gigantic suspicious dick during that timeline to the point where even Kyouko wanted to beat the shit out of her in episode 9, why would Mami ever trust or like her there?
They weren't shit talking each other, though.
That doesn't exist anymore. They don't get along means they do not get along in the present. Not "they never got along" or "can never get along."
Yeah they were, in episode three, they talked at night about Madoka. Mami called her weak, or insecure. Something to that effect. Homura in Rebellion also says the same thing about Mami. Mami also takes very condescending tons toward her. Maybe you don't take that as being insulting though, in which case, dismiss this contention.
Your comparison to Kyoko's treatment of Homura during one strife doesn't really work though. Homura and Kyoko actually get along despite Homura's cold attitude. Kyoko says in Rebellion she actually likes Homura's colder persona as well. Something I can't imagine Mami asserting based on what we see.
Try to save her and fail, watching her destroy herself for being a burden on Madoka's happiness.
Sayaka is love, Sayaka is life
Ah Kevin-kun. It's you again. Good to see that you let Sayaka kill other people.
The conflict comes from the contract, specifically Madoka. Homura doesn't get along with Mami because she zealously sides with Kyubey with regards to Madoka and magical girls in general, not because she insults her.
They're on a team in the Madokami time line. They can get along fine if Homura really wanted to get along with her, but obviously she's decided it's better not to. I know one of the producers considers the MamiHomu time line in Kirara to be "possible", so a time line like that might have happened.
Rape her back, no Kaname is going to be a bottom.
Why is my waifu so perfect?
Who's your waifu? It can't be Sayaka. She's already taken. Twice.
No Kaname woman anyway
She's a bit of an airhead.
No, but I dunno Kevin, why do you like her?
Mami's mammies and gunpowder.
Because of justice.
She is not you're waifu.
Yes, she is. I'm the only one who can be trusted with her.
what exactly is the luminous?
I read that one non h on sadpanda where homu summons goddess madoka to luminous with her so she could double madoka luminous but honestly I'm just assuming it's code for forbidden love
unless its face rubbing or something?
But Kevin, she has three holes. please share.
Watch the movies sometime, anon. Yes, it is the face rubbing. Luminous is the name of the movie OP when they do the meguca mating ritual.
Mami is going to love the Perfect World.
D-Dont talk about my waifu in an uncivilized manner like that!
The real loser in this scenario is Nagisa.
It's posts like this that just prove that I'm the only one capable of protecting her.
You're right, she also has breasts. Do you think we could pull off Four Guys, One Sallaka?
Nagisa is so happy.
imma beatchu up
Confirmed for Sayaka hater! Get off, Mamifag.
You won't destroy her innocence and pretty smile, you unpure being.
It would be extremely painful.
Madoka will come to my aid.
A reminder not to reply to Kevin. But, I guess if you are that bored it really can't be helped.
>everyone who hates my shitty character is a x-fag!
I should be the only person you should respond to. However, I'm going to bed. Good-night, Anon-kun~!
I'm on that point past being awake for 24 hours where everything I type is shitposting without even trying.
>Mami is a pedo, lol
Fuck off with your shitty fanfiction.
Take her out for drinks.
Rape her with a Sayaka dildo.
Too bad, it's canon now.
That she was forced to take care of a stupid little girl by a crazy lesbian doesn't make her a lolicon, fuck off with your shit.
She's the one who rescued Nagisa from the gravity-defying cheese, it was clearly voluntary
Sayaka gets all the bitches
Don't forget how she was interested in Kyouko when she was younger but let Sayaka have her in Rebellion.
I think Nakazawa-kun had the most screentime out of all the males in rebellion.
Best boy confirmed.
You don't know how gravity works now in the world of Homura, those boxes could very well kill her, Mami was just saving a stupid girl from a safe dead, because that's what an ally of justice do.
That's because the crazy lesbian reconnect Mami and Kyouko relationship and put Bebe in the place of Kyouko.
>there will never be another pasta as epic as this
Why are Mami and her fans such garbage ?
But nothing in that chart is false, anon.
Let's all just love madoka toghether, the best of the bestest girls
Homura pls, you're the one I love.
Madoka is really a wonderful girl and the only true goddess.
Who wants Xmas cake Mami?
Why are you such garbage?
Why Mami is so fashionable?
Cos she has her own room
She has her own apartment, nigga.
So where can I get that cardboad cutout? For scientific purposes.
KyouHomu is best
>Homura-chan...why? Why couldn't you let me save you? Don't you think anything of yourself? Don't you care about my feelings? All I wanted was for us to be together forever!
Best crack pairing indeed. I can see Kyouko siding with Homu in a next season/movie though.
How could the two best girls have the most boring scene in the movie?
Because they aren't best girl.
Is it fine if I skip the first 2 movies and only watch the third movie?
Watch the OP and the transformation sequences at least.
It's nice you like her, but please don't involve Mami-san in such shenanigans.
THat doesn't add anything to the story though. Why would I waste my time watching that?
>doesn't add anything to the story
>Waste your time
Homura is damned for all time, isn't she? Madoka said she'd kill all witches, and Homura is just a witch now, her soul gem is gone
>Homu and Madoka are doomed to sacrifice themselves for each other forever
Did you miss AI YO? It's explicitly said that she is no longer a witch.
The thread is dead, we may as well try a waifu war.
Hobo a shit. Homu a shit.
Rewrite the laws of the Universe a third time? You know all these rewritings can't be healthy for the Universe
Can someone tell me what the hell is going on at the start of The Rebellion?
Why are all these dead girls suddenly back alive? Since when does Kyouka attend the same school? How the hell does Mami already know who Homura is?
Each physical law is actually an ascended magical girl.
You should've seen the universe before the four fundamental sisters came about.
I recommend that you watch the movie.
Trading up every year for a younger model
They're in a witch's barrier. The witch lured them all in there and wants to keep them trapped in that fake world.
Homura does a good job of explaining it.
More like one, with multiple personalities.
But if the Incubator goes to magical girls to get energy to give the Universe because of entropy
What was the reason before a little girl became entropy
I just finished the movie yesterday, was okay/10, I just want to ask does this mean that all the fan couples are canon now?
Get the fuck outta here, Einstein.
I also thought Bebe's cat ear hat was cute.
First magical girls arose to combat Laplace's Demon. Entropii ended that major conflict.
>First magical girls arose to combat Laplace's Demon
This guy? Yeah I guess he seems evil enough
Shit, I meant Maxwell
This thing, when it became human it had a hat with cat ears. I thought it was kawaii.
They are just ears, I don't think is supposed to be cats ears.
But they're pointed ears so they're meant to be like cat ears
Kyouko and Sayaka are +or- canon, but HomuMado is forever doomed and will never return now that Homura and Madokami are enemies.
They are just generic animals ears, man.
Yeah, but didn't they all die at the end of the 2nd movie?
>ever being enemies with Homura no matter how hard she tries
That is not the Madoka I know.
That is not dead which can eternal lie, And with strange Madokas even death may die.
This made me remember, is there any speculation as to what Homura actually changed about the universe? She altered something that had enough consequence to make a rewrite necessary.
Look at them they're cat ears
All I really got from that movie that it's confirmed Homu wants to stick her fist up Madoka and that Sayaka is going to stop it
Sayaka and Nagisa were taken to Yuri Valhalla by Madoka. Homura, Kyouko, and Mami were still alive, though they don't know anything about Madoka or witches.
Homura autisticly blurts out "MADOKA!" after Sayaka disappears, and Kyouko is like "the fuck?"
She tore the Law of the Cycle/Circles (円環 means both) in half.
There is no such thing as circles anymore.
The universe runs Windows and any change requires a reboot.
She uses her barrier to manipulating the universe, she technically didn't reboot it.
Her table was clearly round.
I just watched Rebellion, and I don't understand what the shit happened in the last part of the movie.
So, Madoka was CHIM, that's clear, but now Homu ate her, and now Homus is CHIM. Why did she do this? Am I supposed to be upset about this? Is Mado aware of whats going on? What was the goal? WHAT THE FUCK WAS THE POINT?
It was ovular, you just couldn't tell due to camera angles.
It looked exactly like what happened when Madoka fucked with the universe. Either they both expanded their barrier to cover the entire universe, or neither did.
Even though we see her soulgem expand, Kyubey clearly states the universe IS being altered though.
That's fanart, she has no other cat characteristics, they are simply generic animal ears.
TO GET HER MADOKA BACK
No, we see a white screen with Madoka, we clearly see the barrier expanding with Homura.
That doesn't contradict what I said.
I knew Lotte was big, but damn.
What law of cycles?
>There is no such thing as circles anymore.
of there are no more circles then what happened with everything circle shaped? Is the wheel a triangle now?
But she was already going to be part of the pantheon of Madoka's yuri gods
Madoka is a goddess.
She has her duties, and she herself said that law is more important.
She will kill Homura, and will mourn Homura's death forever.
It is truly astounding just how many people show up in every thread that don't understand anything about Homura.
Vivec, go and stay go.
Wait for Kirkbride moon's mod on /v/.
Watch it again if you just don't get it to that level
Homura spread something like a witches barrier across the universe in order to create her perfect world, she used math to (Madokami - Mado = Madoka) as both sides do still exist but she just removed the human from the god half temporarily, then Homura changed everyone's memories to go along with the perfect world aside from Sayaka who retained knowledge of the previous world, and Madoka is tettering on the edge of remembering the truth and gaining back her other half but is just kept on the brink by Homura who keeps pushing her to just live as a human for now because "I'll protect you Meguka".
This is the accumulation of Homura's wish after all, she never did save Madoka in the original time-line, rather she was only ever saved in the end. Homura tried to go along with Madoka's choice, but in the dream world she learned there might be another way and discovered that Madoka might not be happy with being a goddess in that flower scene since she had a family she missed.
I'd post the screenshots of Madoka's expanding barrier from episode 12 but I don't have them right now.
That isn't what Homura wanted at all. To her, Madoka becoming Madokami was a fate worse than death. The flower field scene in Rebellion confirmed that for her.
>but I don't have them right now.
That doesn't exist because that is not what happened.
In Madoka portable she fears for her life because Homura power.
They're cat ears you fucking cuntbag ball licking piece of fucking trash I swear on the virgin mary that they are god damn cat ears, and if you can't see it then you're basically a blind ass nigger like ray charles or some shit you fucking dark skinned turd.
It was like 2 stages. There was the witchy looking green one and the sparkly looking pink one after that. Eventually they filled up the whole universe.
I swear I'm not crazy.
They aren't cat ears.
In Homura's route, Mami becomes your (Homura's) bitch if you save her from Charlotte.
Mami a paranoid, but I guess this is what happens when a person keeps doing such a dangerous job.
By the way, we have a Mami, a Bebe, when we will have a Papi?
>Still lives with parents at 14
o i am laffin
What? When that happens?
No, Madoka will try hard and earnestly to save Homura and cure her wounds, and she'll think she's succeeded in doing so until she realizes because Homura is a demon she doesn't have the power to exactly purify her, so Homura will cease to be as Madoka took away her powers by reconciling with her. Madoka will then hate herself for failing her best friend.
I think dualism is the only possible ending I can take.
best girl doesn't deserve such an awful ending
And then a giant space fish out of nowhere will appear and ressurect Homura, just to kill her again before Madokami's eyes.
I HATE IT
But she likes it, /a/non. She wants Madoka to give her a good beating, but Madoka is too gentle. That's why she is doing this stuff, it all comes down to kinky sex. They both need to recognize their nature as S and M.
Can the series end with a lesbian orgy instead?
You know that only few persons predicted Rebellion ending.
Even if they make continuation (which probably won't happen), Madoka's come back is too obvious and won't happen too.
That is one possibility
No, because Homura is the only lesbian and she's not willing to share her Madoka.
On the contrary, she'd rather Madoka fuck everyone but her since she doesn't deserve it.
No, she doesn't. But Homura does.
So what your saying is that Homura is into bondage and being treated rough by her mistress Madoka
Since when does Homura have the ability to rewrite memories? I thought her wish was just to play with time?
DId you not see the moon? It's only half of a moon.
She created a world like a witches barrier around the universe, except she could control it and was not an out of control witch within it.
Meaning she's basically a god within her created world, and can alter whatever she feels like freely. She basically spread her soul gem out to encompass everything within her rules.
I haven't even seen the movie yet.
So no more circles? Shit was a terrifying universe
Stop with the lewdness. Butcher himself said they have nothing sexual going on.
How does she have enough power to do that and why does she have the power to imprison Madoka?
Power of love, and the insanity gained from nearly a hundred different time-lines. The idea of creating a fake world was something she realized she could do within the barrier, love apparently is the strongest emotion of all that the Incubators passed off previously compared to much more obvious reactions like sadness or happiness(since love is both), and what she did to Madoka was a bit different. She just needed to subtract the human side of Madoka from the greater being after all, which showed when she fractured the world and concepts in order to create that result.
That doesn't mean they can't have sex behind the scenes, anon.
Wait, But I thought only Madoka's power grew from all of those timeline loops. Are you saying that Homura's power also was growing? If that is so then why couldn't she ever defeat Walpulis Knight?
If anything they have platonic love/strong friendship. Seeing them sexualized like that seems wrong.
I mean it's okay if you only beat off to it but don't go around believing it.
Best yuri mecha SoL of 2012.
Rinne no Lagrange.
Homura's raw power did not grow, but a lifetime of twisted emotions in a very special scenario can cause a miracle perhaps. Love is a power that overcomes all; Homura with wings and bow might be stronger than normal Homura however so she did get a small power up at the end of the series anyway.
After the movie where she was forced into a near witch state for half the film kept on the edge, and then was reminded in the end of an emotion that has given her power all this time, combine that with an understanding that she still has not fulfilled her goal as Madoka still needs her, and then add in knowledge of how she can use this as (Bowmura + near witch + Universal love = something far greater than a mere witch as she broke and reformed her soul gem) all of it coming together created an entity that could rival Madokami within it's own space. Homura in general if you add in enough determination can probably work a miracle with enough time, but then again I feel like this is all over-thinking it somehow.
Maybe she couldn't use it yet. Maybe Bowmura could have taken out Walmart Night.
In her current form she could probably destroy Walrus Night without firing a shot.
Her wish was to become strong enough to protect Madoka. If Madoka becomes a goddess, Homura must also gain power to match.
You're right. Homura is best girl after all.
Is overthinking, the movie only presented it as AI YO, and only AI YO because they need a continuation.
What does all that has to do with the fact Homura isn't the best girl?
They didn't NEED a continuation, they just thought this was far more interesting of an ending than the predictable route. Some people were already saying that just having her go up to Meguka Heaven would be a hundred times more pandering than something this controversial, but with this sort of ending it'll still stick with you even if they don't continue the franchise. Do I agree with this sort of line of thought? Not necessarily, but it was an interesting ending and movie in general, and I do know people who legitimately think that way.
>They didn't NEED a continuation
Yeah, I'm sure they don't really need money, that doesn't mean they don't want it.
Homura is best girl, but she can't be best meguca anymore.
Why was S2 so terrible? Mugi best grill.
Is Madoka a deconstruction?
Well since Magical Girls often feed off the same good vs evil morality that anything similar to superheroes does, and Madoka has continued to have more complex ethical questions as a common theme with the movie, and the series in general subverts key tropes of magical girls. It qualifies, it'd be interesting to see how much of it was intentional, and how much is just because Urobuchi writes in a style that doesn't suite standard magical girl conventions.
He said that he wanted to depict a loving relationship without the sexuality. It doesn't mean they're asexual, it just means that none is present within the canon.
So why is it having to be sexual or to be known they are, why is that so important?
So, I just watched Rebellion. Did the series just deconstruct its own happy ending? That's a new one. I can see why people are pissed.
It was bittersweet at the absolute best, and I have to agree with Mami and Homura that what happened to Madoka was worse than death.
Everything they touch turns to aids.
I agree wholeheartedly with the first part, but the second seems like an existential dilemma.
Episode 3's Junko scene foreshadows Madoka's side of the story.
>"So... you make how you live into your dream?"
It wasn't where Madoka could ever foresee herself ending up, but becoming the Law of Cycles made her happy, and she was happy to see the smiles on the faces of every magical girl she saved.
It stands to reason for those people that because Madoka is happy, Homura should be happy for her. That's why Sayaka is so upset. Why would Homura contest Madoka's happiness? Does she have the right to do such a thing? Those are the questions she thinks.
>Did the series just deconstruct its own happy ending? That's a new one. I can see why people are pissed.
According to Urobuchi it was a happy ending, for Homura
The movie was more about emphasizing the two different view points of Homura and Madoka in the end. Two ideals that seem incompable at present as neither will compromise, selflessness and selfishness. Even if that sounds like an easy answer selfishness is not inherently evil by whatever means, it is something necessary for life. Both girls hold their own beliefs here. Madoka will sacrifice herself for the greater good while Homura will go against the world itself for the one she loves, Homura in the end did her best to create a perfect world for her friend so that she need not sacrifice such a thing and could live a normal life as she promised in time-line three. Madoka stated clearly that such things probably aren't right in the end, maybe even if the perfect result can be acquired, and Homura stated that one day they shall become enemies because of this. It's not a declaration of malice in the least, but rather she's stating a simple fact, Madoka in the end will not agree with Homura's outlook here. Homura did what she thought she had to even at the cost of her own happiness and even through tainting her hands in such a way that she deserves not to be around her, but this is still the good ending she wished for in the end.
"I will save you Meguka", that is the promise she has held onto all these long years, and while she thought to accept Madoka's decision for awhile she came upon a new revelation while talking to Madoka in the Dream World that caused her to rethink it all.
This is not an unhappy ending, but it is bitter sweet in an odd way since you know Homura's choice even if it was what she believed to be for the best to protect those she loved still required her to betray the one closest to her. But as Madoka is incompatible with Homura's ideal, Homura is incompatible with Madoka's.
Oh, I mean that Rebellion takes the series' ending and exposes the dilemma it creates. The ending was very raw as well. Compared to the series ending which besets the viewer with happy messages, scenes, music, etc., Rebellion is extremely nebulous.
Three years ago, this was my absolute favorite fan art that summed up how I felt about the ending.
I'm just blown away by it now. It's so perfectly "Dualism". You can read whichever message you want in this, or both at the same time.
>I'm just blown away by it now. It's so perfectly "Dualism". You can read whichever message you want in this, or both at the same time.
It's not dualism yet since the balance of power is currently wildly in favor of Homura.
Won't Madoka do the samething she did in the show; fucking nothing
With Sayaka all hyped up and even fucking brought back to life they'll probably make her the main character and have her do something about Homura while Madok just sit there and act cute.
Homura does the opposite thing and makes her dream into reality.
I don't think AI YO was a mistake, so Junko's next bit of advice doesn't really apply. Neither Homura or Madoka are going to compromise, and with the way Sayaka acted at the end it's clear that she's firmly on Madoka's side.
Homura didn't suffer through 100 timelines just so Madoka could "kthxbai, turning into god now", but episode 12 and the beginning of Rebellion gave a much different impression on it than right before AI YO. She was clearly happy at the end of 12, and filled with hope by Madokami's sacrifice. She was about ready to kill Bebe for supposedly shitting on Madokami's sacrifice by being a witch and doing witch things.
I had to watch it twice to get things. The first time I was too busy trying to figure out what's going on to notice the small details.
I still don't blame Homura or think she did the wrong thing though.
Events and settings are always dynamic. This matters little to the point, which is that Homura's ideology has been set up in opposition to Madoka's. The hallway scene at the end of the movie summarizes this perfectly.
Long as we're talking about gender roles, Madoka is the daddy and Homu is the mommy. Madoka, as the daddy, her role is to save/protect as many people as within her reach. That's what fathers do. Homu, as the mommy, her role is to care for and focus specifically for Madoka and make sure she doesn't overexert herself; and she does so obsessively.
Imagine what Madoka must be thinking.
>Homura-chan is so weird!
>I don't get what she said at all
>maybe she's nice if I get to know her
>"devil"? you're being weird too, Sayaka-chan
That is not the Homura I know. Homus do not have any other way of operating than "protect the Madoka at all costs".
You mean the subset of structured social axioms that Junko and Tomohisa deconstruct?
>You mean the subset of structured social axioms that Junko and Tomohisa deconstruct?
You know how everyone obsessively say 'I don't want to be that guy but..' even when it's uncalled for? Well, you're being that guy right now.
By the way, please bear with my chuuni posts as I struggle to understand the concepts that were laid out in a thread yesterday and end up bringing them up in every post. The best way to learn is through application, after all.
Sorry, now that I'm thinking about oppositions and laws and all that, I see it everywhere.
>urobuchi: "And contrary to Madoka, there is absolutely no description about the family in Homura's case, and it is because she is a character who is not needed to be taken as a symbol for mahou shoujo. It is not that there is some reason that she must not have a family, but it is because there is no need to depict them so they do not appear. Conversely, for Madoka the family must be depicted."
Meduka is the best and original goddess. Who's with me?
She's the only real goddess. Anyothers would be herecy.
Homu a #1 Madokami fan.
I'm a bigger Madoka fan than Homura is.
i want to fuck madoka
Would you butt bump a Madoka?
Would you cheek rub a Madoka?
Would you AI YO a Madoka?
Yes to all three.
Why do you all keep doing such things?
There is absolutely nothing lewd about Madoka Kaname, she is an absolutely pure and selfless young lady who only cares about the people she loves.
THIS IS HERESY
Does anyone have the reaction image of Madoka at her computer aiming at her soul gem?
Would you trade your soul to protect a Madoka?
She doesn't even want Homura to be lewd.
Yes. I would die to protect a Madoka. Why wouldn't you?
madoka is shit
As the comic notes, she doesn't want Homura to be lewd for anyone else..
Because that doesn't protect the Madoka.
If my life needed to end to protect a Madoka, it would have to end. But if there's another way where I can stay alive and still protect her, I'd do it.
Wow that is way more lewd than I though from the thumbnail.
Maybe you should consider the latter first before you needlessly volunteer to throw your life away.
Why not volunteer? My life is worthless if I can't protect a Madoka. But then again, if I stay alive, I can protect more. I understand your logic now. Good catch.
Dramatically shoot her soul gem.
That is both completely unacceptable, and utterly pointless as she no longer has one.
Is that thing Homu has on her arm a sheild or a watch?
Is it Wifi or Bluetooth which connects soulgem to meguca's body?
What happens if a soul gem connects to the wrong meguca? Is it possible?
But then how do we get our drama?
a Madokami slap would be acceptable, but that probably won't happen either.
As soon as Madoka rejoins with Madokami, she'll be able to see exactly what was going on inside Homura's head. Madokami will have to comfort a crying Homura again. Maybe we'll see some hair braiding.
The thing about that is, why completely ignore Homura's side of the story in this manner? If it was going to end like this, it would've and should've happened instead of Rebellion.
Meduka is getting some AI YO as we speak.
And she's enjoying it.
Because dead Homu would make me cry.
In the end, I think they'll both be some kind of goddess, though I don't know if Homura's closet can fit any more dresses. They'll have to have a final battle for the universe, but there's no telling how that will come about.
Maybe we'll see the same series of events from multiple perspectives. Maybe a perfectly matched battle between Homura and Madoka like the one in Rebellion between Homura and Mami, Madoka and Homura discussing the universe at Mami's table while she pours them some tea, a scene alternating between Madokami and Homura each having a half luminous, and so on.
Then maybe Homura's universe could somehow be integrated into the law of cycles. We don't know what Yuri Valhalla is like, maybe it could be some sort of perfect world.
Gothloli Homura doesn't seem too thrilled to be there.
>These Homus are too loud
>My grief seed hurts
>I wish I was at home suffering
Reduce the blush and it will look more natrual.
WHY IS MADOKA MEGUCA? DID HOMURA FUCK UP AGAIN?
From Sayaka being a bitch, as usual.
Seriously, Sayaka can be so annoying. She only loses to Mami in that regard.
Homu said they could control their body up to 100m. So bluetooth is plausible
What is your fucking problem?
You know how damn smug she is, and she's not even cool about it like Akuma Homura.
i-is there more? I like where this is going.
It's more funnier if it ends here.
But not as yuri
>le epik /v/ may may
no it's not funny
>tfw watching this scene in the theater
This Homufag sitting next to me was crying. After the movie, we got a coffee together and celebrated though. Homu wins.
I think you need to leave.
And the winner loses on.
Sorry, anon. Homu is never losing again.
I cried like a little girl. I can't take those suffering Homu noises.
It's a Pyrrhic victory at best. It won't last. Being Homu is suffering.
Yeah, Chiwa was really good. The pain was tangible. Very convincing.
But suffering is a good thing. It got her this far and was she was able to protect Madoka because of it. Homura will never deny her own pain. No, she'll use it to conquer her obstacles with grace.
I wish Homu would conquer me with grace.
Even if I end up in any shape, I'm sure I will be all right. If only you were here with me.
Homura is love, Homura is life
>"No matter the sin,"
Let's see how far she can extrapolate on that one.
I'm confident that she can outdo Sayaka, even if she's not goofy looking at all.
Isn't sin just the defiance of religious/divine law?
>you will never be an empty oil drum in timeline 1
Has anyone considered whether there is a higher power in Madoka universe that will get mad at all the universal tampering Madoka and Homura have done?
Shit most of the things the megucas have done inevitably affect how the universe will end. 5 middle school girls determine the fate of the universe. And 2 have ascended into godhood and can alter reality.
Yeah good point. The Japanese word carries the same connotation, too. It's more Homuspeak, aka "I hate myself for hurting Madoka."
>5 middle school girls determine the fate of the universe.
Actually all magical girls do post Madoka's wish. With LoC, Madoka can turn other Magical Girls into idealized beings like she did Sayaka and Nagisa.
Daily reminder that OVA never.
I'd hate myself too if I hurt Madoka.
All wishes are reality-defying in first place.
Maybe they should have done something about the universe itself eventually ending.
Or maybe QB is suppose to help fulfill that role.
Nagisa's belly is a higher power in Madoka universe.
I hope coobie can recover from HomuHell.
He did nothing wrong.
If he's well behaved, Homu will feed him grief cubes.
He seemed to almost enjoy the aggressive space petting.
He probably gets annoyed like a cat if she is too clingy.
I dunno if I would die to protect a Madoka, but I would certainly kill to protect one.
Everything has to end eventually, it's silly to go to such lengths to try to stop it.
That reminds me of the ending for Gantz. The most scientifically advanced and sophisticated race in the universe are a bunch of fucking edgelords, ha.
It's silly not to when the potential is there.
What the crystal buttfuck? they're doing two sets of traditional figures? fuck my fucking wallet. fuck you aniplex you glorious bastards.
oh god I want that Sayaka all over my room
Yeah. An arm here. A head there. A leg behind the desk. Body left right outside my window.
Why you want shit in your room?
had to hold myself back, i think the homu cosplayer infront of me was crying though
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I'm so glad I'm not a figure buyfag. Seems so expensive and addicting. BDs all day.
Funny guys as always.
Homura simply need to raid bigger weapons.
She can use this then *grabs dick*
Surely she could have killed Walpurgisnacht with a nuclear warhead.
I had one of those guys. I couldn't help but laugh instead, though.
Japan doesn't have nuclear warheads.
Madoka will see that Homura did nothing wrong and they'll live happily ever after
are you still trying to force this
how do you even pronounce that
But how one could kill natural disaster with weapon?
The thing is, she's trying to save Mitakihara from Walpurgisnacht, not annihilate everything herself.
The easiest place for Homura to get a nuclear warhead would probably be from one of the U.S. ballistic missile submarines. That means she'd get either a W76 (100 kilotons) or W88 (475 kilotons). For a sense of scale, Little Boy (the bomb that destroyed Hiroshima) was just 16 kilotons.
So, yeah, that's why she doesn't try that.
I was in shock during the whole movie. I teared up sometimes, but when I tried to re-watch the camrip I end up crying.
I have faith in Homura's ability to locate, steal, and use one. Surely that would take care of Walpurgisnacht. Maybe not Gretchen though, but at that point it wouldn't matter to her.
You probably could kill a tornado with a big enough explosion.
If she could protect Madoka, she'd probably be fine with annihilating everything herself.
I'm imagining an increasingly unhinged Homura with no regard for any life but Madoka's, around timeline 150 or 200, going at Walpurgisnacht in progressively more destructive ways. Start with a small tactical warhead, move on to hydrogen bombs in the hundreds of kilotons, and finally dig up some early cold war weapons before detonating the 100 megaton warhead that was never made. Then she'd look through the hell she created and see Walpurgis's ass still floating around laughing, fall into despair, and become a witch herself.
The blast would kill Madoka too. Unless she kidnaps Madoka and takes her far away, in which case why bother with Walpurgisnacht at all?
>hen she'd look through the hell she created and see Walpurgis's ass still floating around laughing
Personally I doubt even Walpurgis has that many hitpoints
Madoka would always try to escape and put herself in danger again. Maybe Homura's shield could protect her and Madoka from the blast in a little purple bubble.
But when she turned off the shield, Madoka would be like "what the FUCK, Homura-chan?"
Probably not if it took one hit from Madoka in not even the final timeline.
Maybe Walpurgis is just practically immune to modern weapons.
I think Homura would have noticed that after a zillion timelines of trying to blow it up if that were the case.
Well, she is autistic.
I like to think that Walpurgisnatch has two billion hp rather than Homura being insane.
>If she could protect Madoka, she'd probably be fine with annihilating everything herself.
No, that's counter-productive. If she wanted to only keep Madoka alive and nothing else, she would have used her wish for that, instead of wishing to go back and re-do everything.
Or she would disregard Madoka completely and throw her in some cage. She does the opposite of this, she's always letting Madoka do whatever she wants. She just protects her from making a contract by blatantly informing her of the reality of magical girls, and focuses on building the ridiculous weapons arsenal seen vs Walmart Night.
This notion of Homura "going crazy" and doing a bunch of stupid shit is some weird edgy fan fiction invention. The moment in episode 11 where through all her experience and QB's observation that nothing ever managed to make anything better for Madoka, she almost turns into a witch instantly.
So the idea that she is willing to directly make things worse for Madoka is stupid. Rebellion expands on this exponentially, it shoves it in your face that protecting Madoka also means protecting Madoka's life/happiness/hope/friends/etc, for those who somehow think the primary goal if Homura's mission is to destroy Madoka's life for some reason.
That seems to be the case.
Maybe Homura should focus on that soul gem laser attack for a while and up its power. Even in the final timeline she scores a direct hit on Kyubey and he's only injured.
Her soul gem is a purple diamond thing, maybe she can up the power to something like that blue diamond angel from Eva.
Aren't autists supposed to notice patterns in everything?
Not all autist have the same symptoms. The autistic spectrum is quite wide.
She really does never lose her marbles, but she can't be in a very good mental state. She probably witched pretty quickly as soon as she had her first doubts about Madokami.
This probably would have been the last timeline even if Madoka didn't sacrifice herself to save Homu and the rest of the megucas. Kyubey had been egging her on to give in to despair for a while, and she was just about to. If she hadn't gotten a hope powerup from Madokami, it would have been all over for her.
The point was to milk the fanbase, anon.
To "lose her marbles" is to give up hope on Madoka and become a witch.
I would also say that she probably fought as long as she could in the Madokami time line, but the fact that she even could doubt a goddess means that the goddess might not have that much power or choice in what she does. So maybe it was inevitable for the events of Rebellion to happen if the one who paved the road for the goddess can somehow lose faith.
Again, I would get away from this notion of "going crazy". A lot of anti-Homura fags use this as justification to try and paint Homura as an ultra-psycho-rapist who hates/attacks Madoka. I think this might also be the view of people who hate Rebellion's ending, they just think Homura is crazy and that she has no legitimacy to her point of view.
If you want to really explore this angle, make it more about Homura's self-destructiveness instead of trying to make her into a mentally ill puppet of Kyubey who attacks/hurts everyone else.
>around timeline 150 or 200
Oh, and in case you didn't know, the maximum amount is "approaching 100" as said by Urobuchi. These might also not be fully played out time lines. So it's probably not 12 years of fighting, maybe something much less, but obviously still a relatively considerable amount of time.
Sorry if I sound a bit too uptight about this stuff. I just try to get people to avoid thinking Homura raping Madoka is a "chillingly realistic" portrayal, as someone told me a while back after reading that doujin where Homura rapes Madoka. She's not a witch, people, it's just a porn doujin by someone who obviously did not take the HomuMado relationship well.
I don't think it was Madokami's lack of power as a goddess that caused Homura to go into despair, but rather Homura not having the perfect determination of a goddess. She said herself that she began to doubt Madokami and had thought it was a story she came up with on her own. That first tear of doubt was probably all it took for her to fall into despair. If there was no Madoka, everything she ever fought for meant nothing.
Homura is smartest meguca, and she investigates things even when doing so would bring her nothing but suffering. Rebellion directly confirmed that much. Any doubt in her mind would have to be looked into. She was the only one who remembered Madoka, and since she could produce no evidence for her existence, the logical conclusion is that Madoka didn't real. I'm sure Kyubey helped her along her path to going witch, with comments about how humans are always so irrational for believing weird things without having any evidence to support it.
Homu could never rape Madoka. I know the ~100 figure but was trying to think of what could have happened after that.
I think I know the one you mean if it's Homurape and "chillingly realistic". That was soul-crushingly depressing and I don't want to think about it.
>I don't think it was Madokami's lack of power as a goddess that caused Homura to go into despair, but rather Homura not having the perfect determination of a goddess
But where is Homura's power from? She has angel wings, she has a bow. I think her power is, to some degree, an extension of Madokami's power.
I agree with the rest, but I'm just suggesting that maybe part of this has something to do with Madoka too.
>I think I know the one you mean if it's Homurape and "chillingly realistic". That was soul-crushingly depressing and I don't want to think about it.
I think I'm being misunderstood here. I didn't call it realistic, someone else did. It's not realistic, it's overly exaggerated "Homura goes crazy" fan fiction porn stuff. So you shouldn't take it as a serious representation of Homura, that's all.