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What are your favorite animation studios, /a/?
Mine are Gainax, PA Works, and KyoAni.

>inb4 your taste is SHIT
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I like A-1 and PAW. Recently, I've begun to like Madhouse. I feel like such a faggot.
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SHAFT
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>>101715604
>you will never be stuck in a room with kyoani girls
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>>101715933
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I happen to like Madhouse, Sunrise, A-1, White Fox, SHAFT, JC Staff, Kyoani, PA Works, BONES, Production IG, Silver Link, Brains Base, TRIGGER,
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>>101716640
good taste.
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BONES, IG, old Madhouse, old Gainax, some KyoAni.
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>>101716640
These are basically all the good studios.
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>>101715933
>dat ninetails
OH LAWD
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SHAFT, Sunrise, Brains Base, Madhouse, I.G, KyoAni, PA Works, ufotable, Silver Link, TMS, David, A-1 Pictures, AIC, White Fox, Dogakobo, BONES, Manglobe, old Gainax, Trigger
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>>101720203
I think thats a few too many, friend.
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Honestly, the only producer whose shows I watch purely because they made it is SHAFT.
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Brains Base, Madhouse, BONES and ufotable here.
Trigger is promising when they're promised budget.
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Bones, SHAFT, White Fox
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KyoAni
SHAFT
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>>101715604
MAPPA, Madhouse, DLE, SHAFT, Production IG, Brain's Base, Silver Link, ufotable, David Production, Artland, Dogakobo, Toei, Rikka
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>>101720998
Also forgot to mention the Orange team for mecha CG.
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MAPPA, Madhouse, DLE, SHAFT, Production IG, Brain's Base, Silver Link, ufotable, David Production, Artland, Dogakobo, Toei, Rikka, 4C, AIC
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>>101720949
Me too. Even though I like post-Shinbo pre-Madoka SHAFT the best. You know, when they used cutouts and experimental animation.
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>>101715604
>PA
This is not allowed. They're inconsistent as fuck in every regard except for the huge-ass budgets.
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Madhouse, Gainax and SHAFT. Satelight have been improving a lot recently too.

>>101725325
P.A. are consistently good from what I've seen.
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>>101725498
>P.A. are consistently good from what I've seen.
>Good
Hanairo
Uchouten Kazoku
>Average
True Tears
Tari Tari
Canaan
Angel Beats (borderline shit)
>Shit
Another
RDG
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BONES and ufotable if I had to pick
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>>101725637
>Another
>Shit
The only thing shit here is that awful taste you have.
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A-1, Shaft, and Madhouse.
But I really like them all as long as the show itself are good
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We have threads about the best studio all the time. What about the worst studio? It's gotta be ARMS.
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>>101725734
The collective opinion every single person in this universe but you says otherwise.
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>>101725773
GONZO.

Personally? Silver Link.
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A-1, Shaft and PA

Trigger
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>>101725637
>not liking Another

fuck off
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>>101725839
It's funny because you're basically telling that to half of /a/ and the entirety of Another's viewerbase during its airing.
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I think my favorites are Sunrise, Gainax, Kyoani and Shaft
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I gotta say KyoAni tops my list; mainly because I enjoyed so many of their titles despite their rather low output - compared to studios like Production I.G., Madhouse or J.C. Staff, who churn out a lot of productions but only very few appeal to me. So KyoAni has the best hit-and-miss rate.
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>all these kyoanuses

holy shit I feel so alone
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>>101727709
Well, what's your favourite?
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>>101715783
>A-1

Stop right there criminal scum.
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>>101725839
>implying majority of /a/ likes Another

You fuck off nigga, back to MAL with your shittaste.
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Bones, White Fox, and Silver Link.

If we're talking about pure enjoyment value then KyoAni can go in there too because they draw cute girls.
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>>101716640
where's Mappa and WIT Studio?
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>>101725773
Go Hands
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i can't believe there are many people in this thread loves Silver Link now ;_;

SHAFT, TRIGGER, Silver Link, P.A.Works where can they got money from? , Comix Wave is this even a studio? noone even make a wiki of this, and >>101716640.

i just heard Arms Studio now.
Can someone give me one anime from this studio? MAL is always inacurate
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Madhouse, KyoAni, Sunrise, Production I.G. Trigger has great potential also.

>>101727918
Why would WIT be anywhere? What have they done to actually deserve any kind of praise?
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Satelight = Sunrise > *
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>>101728261
Bones
Madhouse
Sunrise
Production I.G
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Sunrise, specifically studio 8. They animated Mai HiME and Horizon, two of my favorites. They do consistently good work and apparently have a reputation of keeping well to schedule. This season's Buddy Complex is also great, the only thing you could complain about wouldn't be the animation studio's responsibility anyway.
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Sunrise.
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>>101728340
>This season's Buddy Complex is also great
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SHAFT, Studio 4c, Sunrise, Madhouse, Toei
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>>101728241
well, isn't SnK was animated by WIT?
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>>101728424
> isn't SnK was animated

Fuck off, WIT staff
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SHAFT and Brains Base.
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>>101728399

It's not a masterpiece but if you can't appreciate a fun action show then I feel sorry for you.
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>>101728424
And why does this matter?
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I''m the only one in this theard who choose Ghibli?
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>>101728535
TV anime nigger, nobody cares about films.
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Madhouse for the most part, I'm fond of P.A Works and I just really dig Trigger's style too.
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>>101728559
please don't call me a nigger
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Am I the only one who likes SHAFT's powerpoint style?
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>>101728655
SHAFT is probably the most mentioned studio in the thread.
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P.A works and Kyoani.

P.A works tend to be the best though.
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>>101728655
It's not even SHAFT, It's Shinbos style. Try watching stuff like REC by the director Lain, or The Soultaker by Shinbo to see the differences.
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I don't remember most of the studio names.
I don't really remember anything that has names on it, or locations, or dates, or anything really, had to relearn months a few months ago.

Shaft I do remember so I'm going to say Shaft
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>>101728874
>I don't really remember anything that has names on it, or locations, or dates, or anything really, had to relearn months a few months ago.
Anon, are you okay?
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SHAFT

SHAFT has literally never made a bad show in their life span

Average show? Sure, but never a bad show.
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BONES.
Maybe because I got back into actively watching anime after a friend recommended me Darker than Black. I realize people dislike their original endings, and I don't really like them too much either, but the gorgeous animation in the rest of most shows always makes up for that.
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>>101728964
The correct ranking of SHAFT shows.

PPD > SZS > Hidamari > REC > Madoka > Monogatari > Soredemo > Denpa Onna > Arakawa > Maria Holic > Natsu > ef > Sasami-san > Popotan > Negima!? > Moon Phase > Vampire Bund
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>>101729047
>>101728964
Sasami-san is kinda the worst one, while being just "meh"

Also, nisekoi is not good as well.
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>rec
>above madoka
>above monogatari
>above anything
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>>101728424
Wow, they animated an extremely popular manga.

That must have been difficult.
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>>101730127
I don't know why you think that is wrong?
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>>101730056
Sasami was not a bad show. The art was fantastic and it was fun for what it was. It only gets a bad rap because it was Shaft's first show post-Madoka to be a low seller, which is not surprising at all to people who have been around for awhile but hadn't happened in 2 years.

Dance in the Vampire Bund is easily their worst show.
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>>101730417
b...but vampire bund was fun
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>>101730417
Dance in the Vampire Bund was okay, you dipshit.
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>>101730483
>>101730488
Quit letting the naked blond loli blind you.
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>>101717861
>JC Staff
>Good
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>>101727791
But /a/ like it. It would be comedy of season of not Nichibros
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>>101730707
It was worth watching for the communal train wreck but that doesn't make it a good show.
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>>101730769
I watched it alone and I liked it.
And since I liked it, it's good.
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>>101730769
If was very fun = good show
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>>101728964
-gatari is just haremshit.
There; I said it. It's repetitive, anticlimactic and a galactic snorefest.
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>>101730962
>There; I said it

How brave of you.
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only 4*C, only hardcore
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Bee Train, Gainax, SHAFT, Madhouse, Deen and Gonzo.
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>>101715604
Toei, A-1, KyoAni, Sunrise

Those are pretty much the ones I'm gonna check out each season, no matter what.
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All around great, will pick up most of what they make: KyoAni, BONES, White Fox

Specific rules apply: Gainax (only old Gainax), A-1 Pictures (they're my favorite when they're at their best (SSY, Sora no Woto))

A-1 made two of my favorite anime of all time, but then they also make shit like Fairy Tail.
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>people liking kyoani

But why? All of their recent shows suck so hard.
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>>101731602
Your taste is just shit, please go and kill yourself etc.
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>>101731661
It's true. They haven't made a good show since Spring of 2012.
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>>101731602
Man, I wonder the same with SHAFT.
Their recent output is shit. Apart from the endless milking of -gatari and Madoka, what did they do? Sasami turned to utter shit after the first two or three episodes, Nisekoi was alread the biggest pile of shit even before it became an animated pile of shit, and the future holds Kagerou Shit (which will, without doubt, be utter shit). This studio is finished.
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>>101731742
See
>>101731661
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>>101731602
Consistently solid production values, well-managed productions, and reliance on in-house talent as opposed to outsourcing shit. Basically they're a well-run studio.
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>>101731742
Stop trolling, pls.
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>>101731853
>Nisekoi was alread the biggest pile of shit even before it became an animated pile of shit

Then that doesn't count. Shaft's influence on Nisekoi's quality has only helped it. Just because the show was a generic harem before they touched it doesn't make it their fault that it's a generic harem.

Similar statement goes toward Sasami. It's an adaptation. Any input Shaft had in the process was positive.
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Bones, PA works and kyoani.
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>>101731925
Name one
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>>101731963
>that doesn't count
Are you for real? The studio puts out shit, that's all that matters. If someone shits in my face I don't care if they prepared the food themselves or they went to the cheapest fast food joint in town. It's shit.
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>>101732064
They're an animation studio. They didn't write it, they just got paid to animate it. You don't like the source material, so the studio is irrelevant.
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>>101732009
Hyouka, Chuu2, KnK.
All good shows. If you disagree, your taste is shit and your opinion is immediately invalidated.
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>>101732171
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>>101732149
They put out shit, that's all that matters. How hard is that to comprehend? I don't like shit, so I don't like a studio that puts out shit. It's that easy.
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>>101728964
Yes they did and it's airing this fucking season even.
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>>101732171
Hyouka was Spring 2012. That's what I was talking about when I said it was their last good show.

Chuu2 is not a good show. It could've been a good show, but it wasn't. It started off decent and only got shittier as the episodes went on. How you could defend the back half of that show is incomprehensible to me.

Kyoukai no Konata isn't even worth discussing.
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>>101732224
Exactly.
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>>101732009
>chuu2
>autistic and annoying children: the naime

>knk
>implying anybody remembers anything from that anime
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>>101732316
Your an idiot. Maybe a hardcore SoL, CGDCT and haremfag. Singling out the drama parts are a good hint at that. There was nothing wrong, and "only got shittier" is the kind of professional "criticism" I would expect from an eight year old. Good job.
KnK has already been discussed in this thread, and if you think it wasn't a good show, then you need to watch more anime, as it was clearly above average at the very least.
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>>101732381
>quoting his own post accidentally
Goes to show what low level of troll you are.
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>>101732463
Jesus, just go to sleep you butthurt kyoanusfaggot. People like you make me fucking sick. You can't even comprehend that there are people with different opinions. Please, remove yourself from existence.
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>>101732463
If all I cared about was SOL, Cute Girls, and harems, I'd be fucking ecstatic about KyoAni's last few years. That's what KyoAni DOES. That's their market.

There's nothing wrong with drama. I love drama when it's executed well. But Chuuni's drama was fucking awful. There was no justification for it. It was wildly out of place within the tone of the show and the characters gave me no reason to give a shit about them. Springing up some shitty cliche drama about your parents at the last second doesn't make for a good story.
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>>101732569
>butthurt someone likes a studio he doesn't like
>makes posts telling people their taste is shit
>gets more butthurt when receiving the reply that HIS tastes are shit
Sometimes I wonder if /a/ just gets stupider every day or if the trolling just gets out of hand.
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Chu2 haters are subhuman.
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>>101732716
I'm not the one you was talking to.
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>>101732717
>It was wildly out of place within the tone of the show
It wasn't.
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>>101732788
Solid rebuttal
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>>101732823
It's you who didn't elaborate it at all. Are you retarded?
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>>101732717
You're still an idiot. Chuu2's drama was well hinted at all the time, it wasn't even that subtle. The moments when Rikka talked about living with her sister, or when she said there are only two or three people who "acknowledge her existence". It has always been there and slowly ramped up to the point of the vacation. Also, episode 7/8 is not "the last second", it's the last third of the show and as such an almost classical point for escalation. You have clearly no idea what you're talking about.
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>>101732873
It was a dumb goofy show with unrealistic and cartoonish characters that decided it was going to shift focus from and instead spend all of its time on the crying girl and the dumb fuck that inexplicably loved her.
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>>101732970
>cartoonish characters
>in a cartoon
Gee, and people told you to never go full retard.
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>>101715604
All Japanese animation sucks
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>>101733004
"cartoonish" is a description, not a criticism. Until you then clash the cartoon against the shitty DRAMA.
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This thread was peaceful before the KyoAni and SHAFT haters entered.
Truly the most cancerous hatebase on this board.
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The savior of anime, manglobe.
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>>101732970
Just making claims won't help you. I pointed out exact scenes as a foundation, and all you do is "it was dumb and goofy" and call characters "dumb fuck" and dare to count the shifting focus as some kind of flaw when it was clearly shown to be part from the very start.
Please don't embarass yourself further, it's not even amusing anymore, at this point it's only pathetic.
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>>101732970
>unrealistic
Oh noes, my anime are unrealistic. You know what, you can always go out if you want realistic characters(read: 3DPD)

>inexplicably loved
You're telling that love of two people who spend every day together is inexplicable? Just leave and kill yourself.

Also the dude you replied to actually elaborated his reasoning, unlike your 'it's shit, shit, SHIT'.
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>>101733049
Nevar forget how KyoAni killed teh anime.
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>personal favorites
Shaft
White Fox

>underrated
Tatsunoko

>used to be good but now are complete shit
Gainax
Madhouse
4*C

>hit or miss
Bones
Sunrise
ufotable

>shit
Manglobe
A-1
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>>101733115
>>101733145
There is nothing wrong with being dumb and goofy nor being unrealistic. Again, those are not criticisms, they are descriptions. Dekomori is a cartoon. Kumin is a cartoon. And there's nothing wrong with that. The problem is when you fill a show with goofy characters and then expect the audience to take you at all seriously when the show stops being a cartoon.
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>>101733040
All anime is a cartoon, you fool.
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>>101733223
I fail to comprehend how is that a flaw. You expect people to be 100% goofy or 100% dramatic all the time?
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>>101733232
Not him, but there's a difference between "cartoonish" and gekiga, yeah? Yeah.
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>>101733304
I expect that you don't put Patrick Star in the same show as Shinji Ikari.
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>>101733223
Your descriptions are just as flawed as the rest of your original "criticism". As was pointed out already, the drama has been hinted on very early on. There was nothing goofy or dumb about it. You trying to paint it now as some kind of Looney Tunes that went MacBeth is not only wrong, it's outright - dumb and goofy. You dumb fuck.
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>>101729047
Hulk Hogan's Rock 'n' Wrestling > *
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>>101733350
Except Dekomori shows both 'crazy' and 'crying' side of hers. How is your statement relevant.
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>>101733317
What, anime aren't cartoons, or what? What's the point here?
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>>101733463
Where did I say that? All I'm saying is that its possible for a cartoon to lack cartoony elements.

Let me guess, you Googled gekiga and you were confused, right?
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>>101733350
That proves my suspicion in >>101733382
This is the most retarded strawman I've read here in recent days.
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>>101733513
No, you replied to "anime are cartoons" with some gibberish, and I assumed you made some point to the contrary. If your babble actually supported my point, thanks, no further discussion necessary.
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>>101733513
You didn't say anything, you just made an unrelated statement. A vague one at that.
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>>101733634
>>101733676
I'm supporting the anon's statement that "cartoonish" is a decent descriptor for a series. A cartoon can lack cartoonish elements.
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>>101733634
>>101733676
>Gekiga (劇画?) is Japanese for "dramatic pictures." The term was coined by Yoshihiro Tatsumi and adopted by other more serious Japanese cartoonists who did not want their trade to be known as manga or "irresponsible pictures." It's akin to Americans who started using the term "graphic novel" as opposed to "comic book" for the same reason.

"all anime is a cartoon" is reductive. Perfect Blue is not the same thing as Yuru Yuri.
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>>101733823
Thanks, apparently they're too dumb to even Google if it means proving themselves wrong.
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>>101729047

Popotan should be right at the top.
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>>101729047
>SZS anywhere near the top.
This kind of humour isn't even fit for anime, but SHAFT and their stupid shit butchered it without mercy. First season was actually quite ok, rest was meh/bad.
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>>101734028
>gag humor isn't fit for anime

What?

>SHAFT butchered it

It's a 1:1 adaptation for the most part, anon.

S2 was also better than S1.
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I don't really have a favorite studio, it depends on the anime they make.

I'm a big fan of JC Staff because they're willing to adapt a lot of shit that the bigger studios wouldn't touch with a barge pole, but they're definitely a quantity > quality case.

I respect KyoAni in as much that they treat their employees well and have set a good workplace standard, but I think they went massively downhill in 2008 and haven't really put out a good show since. They've been chasing the success of K-ON for years and they should know when to give up and go back to what they did best.

AIC have made a lot of titles that I like, as have OLM and Pierrot. TRIGGER is showing some promise to step away from the norm, GAINAX may as well not exist and Sunrise...well I'm sure it's just a slump.
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>>101734125
S1 was more character centered, therefore more fit for anime and better overall.
And as the show goes on, jokes like pantyflashing and director's fat map move from 'unfunny' tier to 'annoying' tier and make it way less enjoyable.
It also gets repetitive.
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>>101734300
So, since you think the jokes were annoying, it doesn't fit the medium? Unbelievable.

Well, then again it's hard to take anything you say seriously when you say that Shaft butchered a 1:1 adaptation.
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>>101734367
Yes, text based humor doesn't fit anime. You aren't supposed to pause it every 10 seconds to read, unless you're a superhuman.
I find the jokes annoying because they're repetitive, calm down pal.
SZS should just stay manga, or get adapted by a less retarded studio. Gag comedy doesn't equal gag comedy. Nichibros is a good example of well-done gag anime.
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>>101734474
>should just stay manga, or get adapted by a less retarded studio.

Yep, I can't take you seriously. Sorry anon.
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>>101734367
I think he meant they butchered it by shoving their own shit inside.
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>>101734143
>and Sunrise...well I'm sure it's just a slump.
Buy Valvrave was AOTS and could have been AOTY if not for that retarded ending. Okouchi is a victim here since they gave him merely 24 episodes to work on and the most interesting material was shoved into manga.
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>>101734764

Valvrave was terrible, please don't come around here spouting your shit opinions. Watch more anime.
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>>101734871
It wasn't, and I've seen at least 70% of shows from spring and fall, so you get the fuck out.
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>>101734922

Sorry but you watching a handful of shit anime does not make your opinion any more valid. Valvrave was bad, outright bad.
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>>101735058
I believe that watching anime from season X allows me to say valvrave is anime of the season X. Your shit rambling isn't valid.
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>>101735151

Yes but you are wrong

>What is SnK
>What is Aku no Hana
>What is Yamato

Shit, even Haitai Nanafa and OreImo was better.
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My top tier is Sunrise, Madhouse, and SHAFT. A-1 too, but they don't actually animate.
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>>101733823
They can call it whatever they want, it's still a cartoon. It may be a special brand of cartoon, but it's still a cartoon. I don't see what that has to do with anything.
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>>101735347
The only 7/10+ show you listed is SnK and it still lacks anything outstanding besides Kaji Yuki's godly voice.
Saying OreImo > anthing disproves your shit opinion anyway.
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>>101735497

I think you need to watch more anime. Valvrave was shit. Wasn't AOTS let alone AOTY.
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>>101735497
>The only 7/10+ show you listed is SnK and it still lacks anything outstanding besides Kaji Yuki's godly voice.
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Madhouse, KyoAni, Silver Link, Bones
Don't know how people can vote for Trigger, they are too new to judge.
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>>101735564
I was hyped for every single episode before ep 20.
Even if I watched 800 titles, that wouldn't make me like your shit shows more. Wouldn't be surprised if your reasons for calling it shit were just another buzzwords like 'trainwreck' or 'so bad it's gud'. I bet you consider pic related as 'good anime'.
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>>101735497
SnK is 5/10 at best in the grand scheme of things. Please don't use inflated ratings. It makes it harder to differentiate things.

Valvrave was like 3/10. It was kind of fun for the threads, but wouldn't be worth watching on it's own. S2 was like 2/10, but I didn't even make it to the ending. I dropped it around episode 20 or so.

Gargantia was AOTS at 6/10. It was a pretty weak season.

Anyway this is pointless to debate because it's all opinions.
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Shaft is the only correct answer.
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KyoAni is the best.
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>>101735743

It's bad because it was bad. If you watched 800 shows, you might not like mine but you'd at least understand why it's shit.

It's not like I wasn't hyped for it either, but boy did it disappoint.
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>>101735832
My average score is 5.94, it's not inflated so stop taking things out of your ass.

>>101735899
A show that makes me wait for every episode and then discuss it for hours is 9/10. I rated it with 8 only because of that 'disappoint' and the fact they rushed the shit out of it. It needed more episodes.
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>>101735899
Not that guy, but I don't know, it seems people were having fun. I dropped it after episode 1 (can't stand people dying and returning the next episode, no matter if it's vampire mechas or whatnot), but I kinda regretted it later, seeing the threads. It seems it did provide a lot of entertainment, one way or the other.
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>People liking studios that have forced animation
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>>101736051

People make threads and have fun with a lot of shitty shows, it's not an indication of it's quality.

Valvrave is the sort of thing I'd expect from a shittier studio, not Sunrise.
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>>101736126
Fun = good
You have to be a hell of pretentious dweeb to think otherwise.
And the fun came from the show itself, not from the threads. You'd know if you browsed them on daily basis.
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>>101736126
>Valvrave is the sort of thing I'd expect from a shittier studio, not Sunrise.
Yeah...when has Sunrise EVER made a shitty anime.
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>>101736196
>Fun = good
DAT PLEBEIAN LOGIC
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>>101736126
>Valvrave is the sort of thing I'd expect from a shittier studio, not Sunrise.
I gotta say, those big time studios that did many dozens of shows are most of the time a disappointment for me. I like maybe four or five shows, but then there are so many I dropped. It's kinda hard to have expectations under these circumstances.
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>>101736196

No, fun != good

If I run around a baseball pitch like a spastic having fun it doesn't make me a good baseball player
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>>101736370
>If I run around a baseball pitch like a spastic having fun it doesn't make me a good baseball player
How is that fucking related. Baseballer's(pro) job is to win mathes. Anime's job is to provide entertainment. Now kill yourself.
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>>101736196
Fun != good.

You're allowed to like things that aren't good. Leave "good" to the things that are actually good.
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>>101736430

Anime's job is to provide entertainment in the best way possible.

You're saying a baseballer's job is to hit a ball
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>>101736509
>You're allowed to like things that aren't good
Only if you're a shit eater. I am not, therefore things I like are good.
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>>101735990
>5.94, it's not inflated
That's almost a whole point inflated. You do know 5 should be the median to aim for, right?
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>>101736196

So you're saying Inferno Cop's animation is as good as REDLINE's?
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>>101736710
First off, it depends on if your scale is 1-10 or 0-10. If it's 1-10, then no, you're looking at 5.5.

Either way, though, I'd argue that your average should not be the scale's average because what the fuck are you doing spending all your time on shows that you consider severely below average? You drop that shit or don't even start watching it in the first place. If you have any kind of perception for quality then you should be able to predict what you'll like enough to skew your typical score above the mean.
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I like SHAFT, Silverlink, PAW and AIC
come at me
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>>101736710
No it's not. 5 is a meh score. Not bad, but also not good. 50/10. 4 is bad, 6 is ok. 3 is shit, 7 is good. 5 would be a mean score if I watched every single shit that exist. But I drop 1/10 or 2/10 shows at ep 3, and since they're dropped, I don't count them to average score. You're the one who should learn to rate.

>>101736720
How the fuck is that even related? Is anime X has good animation but is boring/unfun/shit then it's bad. If anime Y has bad animation but is still enjoyable or enjoyable with average animation, then it's either ok or good+.
You can't possibly be saying that you only look at animation when rating.
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>>101736904
>How the fuck is that even related? Is anime X has good animation but is boring/unfun/shit then it's bad. If anime Y has bad animation but is still enjoyable or enjoyable with average animation, then it's either ok or good+.
>You can't possibly be saying that you only look at animation when rating.

You're missing the point.

Animation can be good or bad, story and characters can be good or bad, altogether these contribute to the quality of an anime, making some anime better than others.
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>>101736988
Yes that's what I'm saying. If good animation/characters/story makes the show enjoyable to you, it's good, even if it's lacking in other asepcts.
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>>101737055

No

enjoyable != good
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>>101737083
Yes
Enjoyable = good
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>>101736904
Personally, I don't care about differentiating between various shades of garbage, so I've instead moved my scale to give more room to distinguish between above average shows than below average shows. What this means is that an "average" of 5 is a show that I consider "Enjoyable", which is something I should be aiming for in the first place. Why bother watching things if I'm not enjoying them?
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Production I.G. Most innovated and forward thinking studio currently.
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>>101737108

No.

You can enjoy a show, but enjoyable shows are not necessarily 'good' shows.

Death Note was enjoyable, but was it better than say - Mushishi? No.

Enjoyable != good.

You can enjoy sports, but it doesn't make you good at them

You can enjoy making music, but it doesn't make you good at making music.
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>>101728241
>Why would WIT be anywhere? What have they done to actually deserve any kind of praise?
Funnny you say this though. No matter how you look at it WIT is the biggest new studio on the rise. I'd easily say they're already a much bigger deal to the industry then Trigger. After a massive success wlith SnK and already showing early success with HnR people are going to want them to adapt their work.
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>>101737183

I wish I could agree but after ARISE it's hard to say that.
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>>101737131
If what you're saying it's true, and your 'average show you enjoy' is 5/10, then your 5 means it's actually good since >>101737108
But that's not how 1-10 scale works. 1 is the worst of the worst (bad title), 10 is the best of the best (good title), 5 is neither bad nor good(or a little more bad than good, since the center is 5,5).
Shows that you enjoy are 6 - 10. Shows you don't enjot are 1 - 4(or 1 - 5, depends on your interpretation. As simple as that.


>>101737329
Your examples are shit as fuck. You aren't the creator of anime, you're the receiver.

And both Mushishi and Death Note had very similar level of enjoyment. I gave them the same score.
Valvrave was more enjoyable therefore the score is higher.
Mononoke was less enjoyable, therefore the score is lower.

Enjoyable = good

Also stop leaving a blank space after every single line.
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>>101737329
>You can enjoy a show, but enjoyable shows are not necessarily 'good' shows.
Valid
>Death Note was enjoyable, but was it better than say - Mushishi? No.
Valid
>Enjoyable != good.
Valid
>You can enjoy sports, but it doesn't make you good at them
>You can enjoy making music, but it doesn't make you good at making music.
Ya fucked up. When were we talking about making anime?
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>>101737402
>Airse
>Bad
No, it's not on SAC level but that doesn't make it bad. Episode 2 was pretty good. Better than 1.

The last"bad" thing they did was Blood+
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>>101737440
>But that's not how 1-10 scale works. 1 is the worst of the worst (bad title), 10 is the best of the best (good title), 5 is neither bad nor good(or a little more bad than good, since the center is 5,5).
Shows that you enjoy are 6 - 10. Shows you don't enjot are 1 - 4(or 1 - 5, depends on your interpretation. As simple as that.

That's how the typical 1-10 scale works. That's not how my personal 1-10 scale works. I don't give a shit about distinguishing between a 0, 1, 2, or 3. They're all shit, none are worth my time. So I compress the scale and use the gained space for shows I do like. It's my scale, I can do what I like with it. As long as I'm not trying to compare my rating of 5 with someone else's rating of 5, there's no problem.
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>>101737485

ARISE is bad, the soundtrack alone is bad enough.
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>>101736820
>what the fuck are you doing spending all your time on shows that you consider severely below average

>>101736904
>5 would be a mean score if I watched every single shit that exist

It's like you guys don't know how to rate. Sure, you can pretend every anime you've seen and completed is in the top half of all anime ever and rate it all above 4 or 5, but then you're just wasting half the available ratings. You should rate with 5 being the average of whatever you're comparing for the most meaningful ratings.

Giving SnK a 7/10 with no context when it's clearly not above the average in terms of all anime ever is pure rating inflation. The fact that the same guy considers Valvrave somewhere beyond 7/10, entering the top 10-20% of all anime ever is ever more ridiculous.
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>>101725734
Jesus, kid shut up, please
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>>101715604
Uh I guess IG, Brains Base or BONES.

It seems very forced around here to assume KyoAni and SHAFT are really worth a shit. All I see is two studios afraid to leave their comfort zones and stop rehashing.
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>>101737462
>Ya fucked up. When were we talking about making anime?

Animation studios make anime

If you make a bad anime, it's a bad anime. It doesn't matter how much someone enjoys it, it's still bad.

>>101737440
>And both Mushishi and Death Note had very similar level of enjoyment. I gave them the same score.

It doesn't matter how you scored them. Mushishi is better than Death Note. I personally enjoyed Death Note more too, but Mushishi is much better without question.

We're not talking about subjectivity. I consider Lucky Star a 9/10 but in terms of the quality of it as a series, it's probably much closer to a 6/10.

This is objectivity. You're telling me that Valvrave is 'good' because you enjoyed it. Sadly, your enjoyment does not factor into the quality of an anime.
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>>101737485
>It's not on SAC level but that doesn't make it bad.

True enough, Arise is definitely not on the level of SAC or the movies, but I consider it bad because of entire presentation of the work so far. It looks cheap in terms of animation, story telling, music, and artwork. I still find the characters mostly ugly. The story behind episode two was definitely better than episode 1 but that is not saying a lot. I was hoping with Arise that they would rise above the shit that we've seen before when it comes gits stories. I'm tired of the ghost hacking and implanting of memories, androids going haywire, or fighting off a huge mech like they did in SAC, in the GiTs movies AS well as the novel featuring Batou. Come up with something new, please.

I will never understand the people who give Arise any praise. It's mediocre and boring. Not on the level of SAC or the movies? Well fuck, Arise SHOULD be.
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>>101737684
There is a context to it, as SnK is obviously better than your average low budget shit unless you're insecure and don't want to be lumped with gaia kids so you go around shouting things like that.
So is Valvrave anyway.
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>>101737402
Well, minus ARISE(which I don't think is terrible but yes it leaves me wishing it could have been more) I was referring to their kick heart project, they make a lot more originals than anyone else and they are one of the few keeping all hand drawn a thing.
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>>101737684
> but then you're just wasting half the available ratings.

See
>>101737131
>>101737565
I am specifically avoiding that exact problem. What's the difference between a 1 and a 2? A 2 and a 3? Does it really matter? Just lump it all together and use the scale space for something better.
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>>101737725
This is shit not objectivity, I can't comprehend how conceited you are to think that your definitions of 'good story', 'good art', 'good animation' are "objective qualities". This is all subjective shit and no man can rate anime objectively. Objective would mean it's a fact.

Mushishi is enjoyable, therefore good. 7/10
Death Note is enjoyable therefore good. 7/10
Lucky star is bad. Not "enjoyable but bad", becaue there's no such thing. It's simply bad. 4/10.
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Shaft
GoHands
KyoAni
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>>101738049
>GoHands
Said no one ever.
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>>101738049
>Enjoying both SHAFT and KyoAni
That ain't how ya do it son.
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Shaft
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>>101737714
>It seems very forced around here to assume KyoAni and SHAFT are really worth a shit
To me their comparable to Apple fans. No matter how many times they fail or rehash their fans continue to eat their shit and give them unjustified praise.
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KyoAni, JC-staff.. i guess
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>>101738017

Incorrect. Lucky Star has fairly average characters in a fairly average setting. The animation is not great by any standard but the humor and direction makes it enjoyable. It's enjoyable, but not technically 'good'.

Miyazaki movies are technically 'good', no matter how much you do or do not like them.

For you to claim that everything is subjective is not only wrong, it also undermines your initial statement that Valvrave was AOTS. How can ANYTHING be AOTS when everything is subjective? You're telling me that Naruto is just as good as any other anime.
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>>101738017
What about something like Henneko? It was enjoyable because it's cute as fuck, but it's not a good show. Or the Persona 4 anime. It was great fanservice for people who played the games but fuck it was a bad anime. Or Crime Edge. I had fun watching it but I don't think I'm making a controversial statement by saying it wasn't a good show.

Inversely, there are good shows that are not fun shows. Shows that are depressing. shows that beat you down. You feel like shit while watching them, but they're good shows.

Fun and Good are different scales. A show doesn't have to be fun to be good and it doesn't have to be good to be fun.
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>>101738181

This is a perfect analogy.
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>>101738299
wow kill youself
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>>101738299
stop trying to rustle jimmies
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>>101737887
Yes, your personal method is great. It's similar to the method I personally use. Forgettable stuff is 1, something with at least one aspect I enjoyed is 2, and so on with less series at each level. It's a good way to separate the shows that really matter.

My point is that when you throw a random rating out in a thread like this with no context to it, you should normalize your ratings. Otherwise the rating is meaningless to everyone else.
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>>101738299
Now someone post the actual picture we have already established. I know I.G and Madhouse were on the top.
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>>101738325
>What about something like Henneko? It was enjoyable because it's cute as fuck, but it's not a good show
Henneko wasn't enjoyable. It was a trainwreck. If it was enjoyable it would be good.

>Or Crime Edge. I had fun watching it but I don't think I'm making a controversial statement by saying it wasn't a good show.
Why would making controversial statements bother you anyway? It's not like the hivemind is going to track you down or something.


>Inversely, there are good shows that are not fun shows. Shows that are depressing. shows that beat you down. You feel like shit while watching them, but they're good shows.
I don't mean fun as in 'funny'. English isn't my first language and I don't really know any better word for it. When I say fun, I mean enjoyable. If something is depressing and makes your heart move, it IS enjoyable.

I don't think that differentiating fun and good scales is a good idea. Nobody can be objective at rating things such as anime, and putting a facade of doing that is mildly annoying for other people (or at least for me).
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CLAMP
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>>101738606
>Henneko wasn't enjoyable. It was a trainwreck. If it was enjoyable it would be good.

>The quality of anime is subjective guise!!

>Except this
>This is shit because I didn't enjoy it and therefore nobody else will
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>>101738670

CLAMP isn't a studio, but I agree. I want more CLAMP
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>>101738949
This is shit for me. I never said it's a fact. Stop being retarded. If you enjoy it it only makes you have shit taste in my eyes.
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Shaft, Ufotable, Madhouse, Bones.

KyoAni and Gainax may get back on track.

PA and Trigger look promising.
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>>101739066

How can anyone have good or shit taste when all anime is subjective?

You said Valvrave was AOTS. How is this possible when all anime is subjective?

Your words.
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>>101739124
For me it's AOTS.
It might be bad for you, but it's only because you have shit taste.
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>>101738606
If you rate everything on a set of predetermined criteria, it can be more useful in telling others what to expect from whatever it is you're rating.

The point of separating "fun" and "good" shows is so you can more effectively recommend series to others. Something collectively well received by a community is more likely to be well received by others in the community than something only you enjoyed. While it's generally pointless to rate series for yourself on how "good" you think they are, it's still useful to have a distinction.

>>101739124
>How can anyone have good or shit taste when all anime is subjective?
Good taste and shit taste is also subjective. It's a metric of how well someone's taste aligns with your own.
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>>101739158
>Valvrave
>Ever AOTS.
Anon please it was a humongous train wreck we all laughed at.
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>>101739158

It was bad. Badly made. Bad anime. Not good. You can enjoy it - but it wasn't good.
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>>101739205
>Anon please it was a humongous train wreck we all laughed at.
I was laughing with it, which in turn was laughing at itself. Definitely AOTS of Spring.
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>2014
>not liking Hoods
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>>101737714
>All I see is two studios afraid to leave their comfort zones and stop rehashing.
I don't see people complain when Studio Ghibli does it.
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>>101739246
>Definitely AOTS of Spring
That's Gargantia.
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>>101739301
>That's Gargantia.
That's Yahari.
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>>101739301
>That's Gargantia.
That was one of the worst of Spring, which was a shame because it could have been so much better. Hopefully the second season will take advantage of what the first season had.
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>>101739330
Yahari was ok. At least you didn't say Maou.

>>101739372
You view it as the worst because you're comparing it to what you thought it could have been. You were blinded by your own expectations. I'm not saying Gargantia was a masterpiece, but it was a small gem hidden in the sea of shit that was Spring 2013. It wins simply by being the only good show.
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>>101739301
>>101739330
Actually, I agree with both of you. If there was 2 shows I don't regret picking up and watching last Spring it was these 2. They each had their own ups and downs. Garganita's animation stomped Yaharis, Yahari provided better characters. Each episode had entertainment and was fun to watch but Yahari probably came threw more often. Garganita had the better OST/music.
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>>101739189
If I ever wanted to 'commend something' I'd just look at what they like instead of blindly spouting shit like "WATCH TATAMI GALAXY IT'S THE PINNACLE OF ANIMATION MATURE AND INTELLIGENT''

There's no need to separate 'fun' and 'good' unless you're a pretentious fuck. Anime X can have extremely good animation and story, which in turn makes it enjoyable and therefore good.
Something that has average animation/story but excels at something else and in turn is enjoyable is also good.
Now your job is to choose a score between 6 and 9 to decide how much enjoyable it was. 6 for okay and 9 for extremely enjoyable (10 for your very favorite show)

>>101739238
I enjoyed Valvrave because I have good taste so it was good anime.
You didn't enjoy it because you have bad taste so it was bad anime.

>>101739301
Good, not AOTS. The first few episodes weren't good enough.

>>101739330
>UNSOCIABLE MC I CAN TOTALLY RELATE TO!
No. Just no. It was okay, I kinda enjoyed it. Not AOTS for sure.
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>>101739608
>The first few episodes weren't good enough.
Wow you are trying way to hard. The first few epoisodses are why it blew up in pre-orders and every loved it so much. Trying to take away what it did best just proves how much of a faggot you are
>enjoyed Valvrave because I have good taste so it was good anime.
>You didn't enjoy it because you have bad taste so it was bad anime.
And this just proves how immature you are.
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>>101739556
There were a lot of good shows in Spring 2013. Gargantia was by no means alone and by no means the best of them.
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>>101739608
>There's no need to separate 'fun' and 'good' unless you're a pretentious fuck
I just gave a perfectly valid reason to. You ignored my post entirely. Tatami Galaxy was pretty good, but I don't see what that has to do with anything. Sora no Woto was better.

>The first few episodes weren't good enough.
Those are generally viewed as the best part of the show, actually. Most people didn't like the long slice of life segment or the twist with the squids.
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>>101715604
Shit
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>>101739929
>I just gave a perfectly valid reason to. You ignored my post entirely
I didn't. I rate it mainly for myself so I can remember how good it was when somebody asks me. If I had to recommend shit to people, I'd check their personal tastes and fucking give them what they would like (doesn't mean I myself liked it).

But I'm just repeating myself.

>>101739705
>>101739929
I wanted to drop Gargantia at first but it got really good after episode 3 or 4, I don't remember now.
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>>101739014
>shaft on top tier
you're kidding right?
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>>101739330
>>101739608
I appreciated Yahari for a completely different reason than /a/ did. When I watched it, I saw a show that was showing how not to act. There was the unsociable MC that was actively working toward making things worse for himself and the show was aware of that fact. The show was presenting the MC as a role model by counterexample. I really liked it because it was taking the typical protagonist role and attitude and emphasizing the flaws in it, showing this character who is actively pushing people away from him for no reason because he sees himself as a cynical loner.

But /a/ just latched onto him as an aspirational figure, completely missing the point, and acted like dumbasses with all the Batman shit. It really ruined things for me.
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>>101737714
You can't really say that about KyoAni, though. Not only stray they away with Free and KnK, they also brought up their own IP business to be more independent - you can't leave your comfort zone any further than trying to change your whole position in the industry. I have high hopes for them in the future, if they continue to branch out that way.
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>>101740270

I remember the batman thing just being a joke. People were watching it most to see the downward spiral that's happening to Hikki, they liked the suffering.
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>>101737364
HnR isn't anything special with regard to the animation and SnK's anime adaptation was garbage. I do see them becoming bigger because of SnK though.
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>>101739205
what a hypocrite
I always knew that you were shit and you just confirmed it
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>>101739372
I think people just tend to get their hopes up way too high. It wasn't bad at all, it was a rather good show. Certainly not deserving all the hate it receives, it's kinda mindboggling. Each season there's so much shit out there that simply flies under the radar, it seems, while some shows that got hype beforehand get bashed like mad because they fail to be a masterpiece.
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>>101740874
>SnK's anime adaptation was garbage
Being to critical there anon. Not ones going to take you serious.
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>>101740945
>while some shows that got hype beforehand get bashed like mad because they fail to be a masterpiece
I think a lot of people are thinking that with Space Dandy. It gets quite a lot of criticism on here, but all in all it's a pretty solid show if nothing spectacular.
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A-1, Brain's Base, IG and Madhouse
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>>101740972
>Being to critical there anon. Not ones going to take you serious.
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>>101741453
Pretty sure he's saying just because you didn't like it doesn't make"garbage". There comes moments when you need to understand that your bias opinions aren't factual. At worse SnK is a 5 at best it's a 7. But the anime is not so bad it won't provide entertainment. Otherwise the world would legitimately hate it and that seems to be the exact opposite of what is happening with the show.
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>>101741027
Space Dandy has been pretty well received around here overall. What you're talking about are the anti-toonami trolls.
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>>101741906
You don't have to pretend to be a different person, it's painfully obvious when English isn't your first language.
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>>101737364
>No matter how you look at it WIT is the biggest new studio on the rise. I'd easily say they're already a much bigger deal to the industry then Trigger.
Maybe so, but Trigger has staff that has repeatedly in the past produced high quality animation. WIT on the other hand, has made SnK which was a sales success, but I wouldn't say it was any kind of masterpiece in any other regard. HnR I haven't watched so I can't really say anything about that, but even if it happens to be amazing show with high production values, I can't see how one show would justify it being on anyones "favourite studios" list. Also, SnK was collaboration project between WIT and I.G IIRC, so I wouldn't give all the credit to WIT.
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Episode 6 of KnK was 10/10 masterpiece best episode of the season.
Bandwagon hate just blinds your eyes.
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>>101743821
That's not Kyousougiga 00 or 01.
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>>101743877
The second episode was the best.
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>>101743877
Kyousougiga was pretentious piece of shit.
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>>101743927
Good job you read the buzzwords.
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>>101743877
I feel kind of bad, but I never watched Kyousougiga because the OVA was so bad.
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I.G., Manglobe, Sunrise and Bones. If Madhouse does anything remotely good I'll be sucking their cocks again too.
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>>101738595
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Brains Base, Shaft and Bones.
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>>101744742
put studio WITZ at the top, they haven't done anything bad yet. Hozuki no Reitetsu's animation is fantastic
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>>101744742
>JC Trash over KyoAni
>JC Trash over anything
>KyoAni that low
>SHAFT over KyoAni
Rigged.
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>>101744742
Why is Brains Base Low tier? You haven't watched Baccano, DRRR, Natsume, Penguindrum, Kuragehime and Spice & Wolf?
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>>101745081
What is Azumanga?
What is Honey & Clover?
What is Utena?
What is Nodame?
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>>101743927
>pretentious piece of shit
Are you even sure you know how to use this word, ESL?
>>101744291
The OVA was perfect world-building.
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>>101745574
>The OVA was perfect world-building.
It was random nonsensical shit and yet still somehow pretty boring.
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>>101745639
Well, if you could give me an example of good world-building and character backstory in 10 minutes, I'd probably watch it and see how it stacks up against Kyousougiga.
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>>101745288
At least KyoAni doesn't resort to low tier reference humor, obnoxious headtilts and whoring their characters.
Madoka is literally the only SHAFT show that's genuinely good. They're pretty low tier otherwise.
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>>101745898
How much SHAFT have you actually watched?
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>>101738595
Here you go.
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>>101745898
>whoring their characters
Hyouka ED.
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>>101745355
Go to bed, gramps. Stop talking about the war.
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>>101745973
Naked =/= sexual
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>>101745971
Where is Studio 4C? Dogakobo? Shin-Ei?
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>>101745814
It was 30 minutes. Yama no Susume is also around 30 minutes long, but it manages to not be shit.
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>>101746036
It seemed awfully fanservice-y to me.
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>>101745814
That's not a justification. If you can't make good ova then don't make it at all.

>>101745574
Yes. It's pretentious crap that tries to appear 'quirky' and 'distinct' but has nothing else to offer and fagtrons swallow it all like pelicans.
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>>101745971
>kyoani on top
Fuck no.
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>>101746098
Oh, the 2011 ONA. I thought you were talking about the 2012 ones. That's your problem right there, then. If you want great world-building and a look at a bizarre and interesting world, then watch the 2012 ONAs. I liked the 2011 one too, but I can see how that could be confusing.
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>>101745943
Well, he's right. The only good show in recent years to come from them was Madoka. Bake and Nise were the most pretentious, repetitive and anticlimactic stuff in ages. It's not complete shit, but it's rather mediocre, I guess it's okay for haremshit. But what else is there? They keep milking those franchises till this day and apart from it, there's Sasami and Nisekoi. And they are pretty bad.
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>>101745898
Holy shit Kuno, fuck off and watch more anime
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>>101745971
Yes, that's what I meant.
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>>101746277
>I have seen 5 Shaft shows!
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>>101746170
So "earnest" is the new "pretentious"? Jesus Christ. They fucking spell out the point of the story for you every episode. And what, you're disliking it for its setting? Next you'll tell me that
>Alice in Wonderland is pretentious crap that tries to appear 'quirky' and 'distinct' but has nothing else to offer and fagtrons swallow it all like pelicans.
Because Mirror Kyoto is practically Kyousougiga's take on Wonderland.

>>101746277
>Madoka is literally the only SHAFT show that's genuinely good. They're pretty low tier otherwise.
>literally the only
Then it goes a lot farther back than "recent years". SZS? SoreMachi? ef? REC?
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>>101746020
You haven't even watched them, right?
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>>101746501
I dropeed it at ep 01 so I wouldn't know.
Not him but Zetsubou Sensei is shit. at least Zoku and Zan. First season was okay.
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>>101746258
Yeah, I'll watch the rest eventually so I can give it all a fair judgment as separate pieces, but for now I'm satisfied saying that the original OVA was a waste of 30 minutes.
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>>101735487
see
>>101733787

Retard.
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>>101746621
Zoku was the best one. Also,
>dropping a show at episode 1
Newshits these days.
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>>101746621
Zoku was better than the first season in every single way, though.
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>>101746501
>SZS? SoreMachi? ef? REC?
Decent shit, boring shit,
>SZS
Decent shit, put it at mediocre
>SoreMachi
Boring shit
>ef
Well, you got me there, don't know what it's supposed to be so I probably haven't watched it
>REC
Teenage fantasy shit
What's EF? Does it fit in with the pandering shows?
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>>101746621
Zan I can agree on, since the episodic format was getting stale at that point. But Zoku was SHAFT at its SHAFTest, and the episodic format wasn't that stale yet, so it was great. Highlights include the claymation, Go! Go! Lyricure, the VA switching episode and Zetsubou Channel. Zan felt like Zoku without the fun stuff and with its welcome overstayed. Also, have you ever watched or read any kind of non-linear media at all? Because I don't see how you'd expect to understand anything from the start in that case.
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>>101746859
Disregard the first two lines, fucking EF made me re-structure.
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>>101746880
>no mention of the murder-mystery episode or HAMASHO
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>>101746927
Fuck, I forgot those as well as the dream episode. That was a great one.
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>>101746836
One has to be an anime connoisseur (watched over 20 shows) to be able to immediately recognize trash. To a newbie like you it must seem like wizardry.
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>>101746501
>SZS? SoreMachi? ef? REC?
Only good one there is Ef. SZS is overrated as fuck.
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>>101747016
>>101746859
Hey, I kinda liked SoreMachi.
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>>101747016
More like SZS > Soremachi > Rec > Ef
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>>101746836
I've also watched episode 00.
And it was the worst time of my life. I'm not going to struggle with your shitty 3 episode rule if the show is beyond hope.
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>>101747092
>SZS > *
This is what I'm talking about.

I only meant the first season of Ef by the way. Melodies was shit.
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>>101747185
Have you ever watched or read any kind of media that doesn't follow a linear or chronological path? That's like reading the first chapter of One Hundred Years of Solitude and complaining about why it makes no sense at all.
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>>101747276
SZS doesn't have much competition when put up against those, though.
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>>101747306
Does Baccano or Haruhi count?
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>>101746804
I wish anime would drop the cartoonish look and be more realistic/dramatic.

Also, Madoka was great, imagine if Shaft did that in a more realistic look like this.
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>>101747353
or Jinrui
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>>101747353
I don't see why not. Hell, the first episode of Baccano barely explains anything (until you watch the final episodes), only introduces the characters.
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>>101747390
"Cartoonish" isn't only a visual descriptor.
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>>101747390
>Madoka was great
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Bones and Tatsunoko.

Man.
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>>101747390
>I wish cartoons would drop the cartoonish look
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>>101747462
Don't get me wrong. I hated KSG because of the setting and characters rather than storytelling but I can't say I liked it though.
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>>101747462
Baccano was shit though.
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>>101746859
All of them are good shows. Your taste is just shit and you probably enjoyed Code Geass.
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>>101747707
too deep?
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>>101747589
>mfw we're the only ones who mentioned Tatsunoko
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>>101747726
Everyone did. Stop being in denial.
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>>101747635
>setting
It's Japanese Alice in Wonderland.
>characters
Yeah, this is all subjective.
Anyway, if I was to describe Kyousougiga in one word, it would be "magical". If you want coherence and an actual story behind Kyousougiga, there's the TV series, but it gets worse in quality towards the last episodes (that's when the plot starts to kick in). You should probably just skip it, since exploring Mirror Kyoto doesn't appeal to you.
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I don't think it even takes one of these threads to figure out just by the way anons talk about them and frequency of threads for their shows every season that SHAFT and Kyoani are by far the most popular and most mentioned studios on /a. Personally I'm not really fond of either's shows aside from Madoka Magica and Suzumiya Haruhi way back in the day for Kyoani as I simply don't like Kyoani's increasingly moe first approach to storytelling nor Shafts whole gimmicky approach to animation and art style which becomes less interesting with each passing series it's used in.

For me though answer the answer is Sunrise, Madhouse, Bones and I.G. I typically at least can watch most of what they put out, and more often than not find myself really enjoying it even when I don't think I will at first. They also just seem to be the only studios regularly producing the kind of stuff I got into anime for in the first place.
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>>101747707
How the fuck does this even matter? I don't give a fuck if it's shit or not, since it's irrelevant to my point.
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>>101747850
>If you want coherence and an actual story behind Kyousougiga, there's the TV series
But we're talking about TV series right now, aren't we
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>>101747756
Is there a reason they almost never get mentioned? They consistently do great stuff. This right here is one of my favorite sequences of all time.
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>>101747933
Oh yes, we are. I just take into account disillusioned Kyousougiga fans who prefer the ONAs. Fuck this shit, it's nearly 6am, I need to actually sleep. Any last words?
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>>101747814
It was not the first anime I have watched, so no, I didn't enjoy it. It was just badly written.
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>>101748088
>It was just badly written.
It wasn't and even if it was, who gives a fuck. It was fun.
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Madhouse, Gainax, Sunrise. Trigger too, but they've only done 1 show so far and it's not even finished.
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>>101747966
Generally, I think its because they don't adapt hyped series. I think more people like them than they already know, they just aren't as easy to namedrop as say, Sunrise or KyoAni.
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>>101748131
No, watch more anime.
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>>101748131
Get some taste anon.
Try watching more anime.
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>>101748386
>>101748337
Watching more anime won't change my mindset. I don't give a shit about 'bad writing' or 'good writing'. Fun = good. I'm not some pretentious fuck who praises shit like Tatami Galaxy or Mononoke.
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>>101748386
>>101748337
So if he watches more anime, he will magically cease to find Code Geass fun? How many anime have you even watched?
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>>101747738
In what way was Baccano deep? It was shit mostly because the setting was boring. A vapid plot isn't magically passable because it is shown out of order and through multiple perspectives. The characters were uninteresting because there were too many of them leaving not enough time for any individual character to shine. Isaac and Miria were especially bad. Then there's the shitty instrumental OP that feels ripped off from Cowboy Bebop, and lets you know right away that you're watching a hipsters choice AOTY.

>>101747896
>How the fuck does this even matter?
It doesn't. I'm posting my opinion in an opinions thread.
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>>101748456
Tatami Galaxy was fun though.
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>>101748488
>hipsters choice AOTY
But that would be like Dennou Coil. Now, I actually like Dennou Coil, so it pains me to inflict such a title on it, but practically every other normalfag has watched Baccano. That does not make it a "hipsters choice AOTY".
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>>101748464
Yes. Well, I hope so. I know that guy, his favorite Anime are Chuuni, Kyoukai no Kanata and Code Geass. His posts are so fucking obvious.

I have watched almost 450 anime.
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>>101747756
I was going to mention Tatsunoko, but I haven't seen enough of their series outside of YQ to say anything. I think they're doing a show next season though.
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>>101747756
>>101748625
I'm going to judge them after Ping Pong.
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>>101748624
Who gives a fuck. Stop circlejerking or put on a trip so I can filter you.
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>>101748488
Have you never encounted an ensemble cast before?
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>>101748488
>uninteresting setting
>Isaac and Milia are shit
Holy fuck, what am I reading.
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>>101747966

Hmmm... maybe because they're horribly inconsistent? I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say you haven't watched much anime and only know of them animating YZQ.
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Silver link, David productions, dogakobo, gonzo. SL is the only studio whose shows I follow because its made by them.
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>>101749051
Practically every studio listed in this thread is inconsistent, Madhouse being one of the greatest offenders.
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>>101744742

I agree with most of this. Pierrot should be in mid-tier though and GAINAX and Gonzo need to be moved up even if they do suck now
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Disney and Pixar.
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>>101748656
I thought Madhouse will produce Ping Pong. Well shit, I hope they won't fuck it up
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>>101745898
>Madoka is literally the only SHAFT show that's genuinely good

Of all the things you wrote, this is the most wrong of the wrongest.
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>>101749114

Is this a joke?
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>>101748600
Yeah, you're right. The word I was looking for there was pretentious. Dennou coil isn't very popular, but I wouldn't say it's hipster. Not a lot of people have seen it, but those that have seem to have generally enjoyed it. I thought it was great. I'm sure more people would like it if they gave it a chance.

>>101748845
Plenty of times. Most Slice of life are like that. The difference is there's plenty of time to get to know 4 or 5 characters in 13 episodes. The cast of Baccano was too large for the duration of the series. Maybe if it had been longer it would have been more enjoyable.

>>101748855
An opinion.
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>>101748624

Guess what, I've seen just over 4 times much anime as you and I enjoyed Code Geass. I was watching anime before you were born m8
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>>101749426
You must have seen a lot of total shit. I'm at 300, and I already feel there's not much left.

>>101749268
Dogakobo is pretty great.
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>>101749426
Not him, but get some taste.
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>>101749426
>m8
>>>/v/
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>>101749496
>You must have seen a lot of total shit. I'm at 300, and I already feel there's not much left.

Because you're not looking hard enough. There's plenty of great stuff out there.

>>101749501
>Am I fitting in yet?
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>>101749570

What's wrong with 'm8' and what does it have to do with /v/?
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>>101749575
>Am I fitting in yet?
Nigga I've been here for 6 years.
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>>101749496
>300
That used to be the fucking minimum for /a/.
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>>101749634
/a/ is for Americans, not britbongs.
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>>101749426
So you have watched 1000+ shows and your taste is still as bad as MALs?
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>>101749575
>There's plenty of great stuff out there.
I doubt it. There's generally no more than 10 good series per season. Multiply by 4 and go back 25 years and you still only get 1000 series. There's a bit more in the 80s, but not much earlier than that. I'd estimate 200 at most. That makes 1200, and that's a pretty loose overestimate. You're at 1800. That means you've seen at least 600 shit series by my count, although that's a pretty rough estimate.

>>101749880
You can think Code Geass was good without thinking it's the best anime ever.

>>101749680
Times have changed. I started lurking here at around 50 series and half of them I had watched dubbed.
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>>101749880
Do you expect people to like ''mature titles for mature people like myself"? Is this /mu/?
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>>101750146
>Times have changed. I started lurking here at around 50 series and half of them I had watched dubbed.
Most of people I know(me too) started lurking since anime number 1-5 and no one watched it dubbed. I thought watching things in the language it's supposed to be watched is elementary knowledge. Not only regarding anime, but all media in general.
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Brains Base, A1, TRIGGER, Madhouse
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>>101750290
>I thought watching things in the language it's supposed to be watched is elementary knowledge. Not only regarding anime, but all media in general.
Well I hadn't learned that yet. I know better now.
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>>101749671

6 years isn't that long. That's what, 2008? During the second /b/tards immigration. You haven't really seen what /a/ was truly like.

>>101750146
>I doubt it. There's generally no more than 10 good series per season.

You couldn't be more wrong, and the amount of anime that airs on TV has increased substantially since 2006 anyway. Speaking of the 2000s, I'd say there are probably more good shows than bad shows throughout the whole of 1999-2007 a very good era for anime.

Your estimate is wrong, and if you've only seen 450 anime then what gives you the right to say that the ones you haven't even watched are bad? Sure there might only be 10 good anime per season nowadays, but it doesn't mean it applies to every generation. I know it's not a popular opinion but the grass IS sometimes greener on the other side and some eras are better than others.
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Production IG, BONES, TRIGGER, Gainax
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>>101750486
>Your estimate is wrong
Well it was just an estimate. It's based on the average number of shows I've liked per season since I started watching in 2011. It doesn't account for movies, ovas, etc. I'm not saying anything is bad, but I can estimate the probability that I will or won't like something before I watch it. How else would I pick what to put on my backlog first. Do you just pick at random?

Personally from what I've seen so far, I'm liking the 90s more than the early 2000s.



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