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Why don't they carry a normal, non-beam gun if zephyr particles are such an issue
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>>101708033

What is muzzle flash/bullet heat/space armor?
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>>101708033
Their class can't use guns.
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>>101708129

/thread.
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>>101708033

Normal guns use a small explosion to propel the bullet.

They could use a crossbow or something similar though.
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>>101708033
It won't break the armor.
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>>101708033
Non-beam guns strong enough to punch that armor would also endanger the ship/station.
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>DVD
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Bad idea to use combustibles or other high energy projectiles inside of a spacecraft. They often use a high-oxygen environment (easily ignited) and puncture of the space craft could lead to explosive decompression. It's mutually assured destruction.
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>>101708411

Perhaps he doesn't like the redrawn scenes, or perhaps he had the old version since earlier and didn't feel like downloading the new one. Personally I have both of them on my disk.
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>>101708552
>Perhaps he doesn't like the redrawn scenes
Which the DVDs have, so that's obviously not it.

>didn't feel like downloading the new one
Fucking casuals.
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>>101708239
They actually do use crossbows in the show. I think they only use it to kill other unarmored guys.
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>>101708629

Oh, is that so? I see, it was the laserdiscs I had.

Then there is no excuse, to be sure.
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>not using a gun where the explosion doesn't leave the cartridge

we have the technology
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>>101708843
We don't know how Zephyr particles actually work. For all we know they're tiny enough to get into all your nooks and crannies and can even mess with those things.
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>>101708843
If we base out assumptions on methane

Then firing one of those in a methane filled room would still set it off, it's reasonable to assume Zephyr particles would react similarly.
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>>101708629
>Fucking casuals.

I really didn't like the redrawn ones.
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>>101709110
The 'casuals' comment refers to a different idea than that of the presence of redrawn scenes.
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>>101709110
I know there were redraws for the BDs but I never no they were put in the DVDs too.

Did they put the same set of redraws from the DVDs in the BDs? Or was it an entirely new batch?

I watched DVD and they were pretty bearable, I have been warned off the BDs though.
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>>101709268
DVDs and BDs share the same redrawn scenes.
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While there's a LoGH thread, does anybody have the gif of the Terran cultist attacking the soldiers with a knife?
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>>101709451
Yes.
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>>101709507
really
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>using combustibles in space
Great idea OP.
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>>101710055
I seriously don't see the problem.
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>>101710055
To be fair the scene in the OP image takes place on Heinessen
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>>101710142
You would be in either be in an environment with almost no oxygen (good luck igniting anything reliably) or an environment extremely rich in oxygen (good job killing everyone).

>>101710167
Well shit. This is the part where we say "muh Zephyr particles" and move on.
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>>101710284
A bullet is in a sealed cartridge anyway, oxygen is not needed.

And an environment extremely rich in oxygen would be fatal regardless. The problem in space would be actual fire which wouldn't conform to gravity and shift everywhere like water, and since a gun doesn't actually ignite the air around it while firing I doubt it would do so in space.
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>>101710517
Nevermind, you're right. However wouldn't firing a gun in zero gravity propel you backwards really far? That sounds bad.
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>>101708033

Listen shithead, axes are fun. Do you hate fun or something?
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>>101710891
magnetic boots
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>>101711020
But then you would bend backwards really far and smash the back of your head on the "ground" if you fired a gun too powerful.
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>>101711085

Please tell me you aren't serious.
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>>101711085
if you're a 90 pound weakling maybe
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>>101711085
Yeah I constantly see this in the range I go to. It's even worse because they have to deal with gravity as well instead of merely the force of the gun.
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>>101711138
>>101711206
If you're in space, there would be no force to resist the gun's recoil other than the hypothetical magnetic boots which would just keep your feet in place.

Obviously, this wouldn't matter with weaker guns, but some shit does have some pretty crazy recoil.
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>>101711290
what are muscles and a proper stance?
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>>101711290
You would have to be firing something truly outrageous. Most rifles don't kick any harder than an /a/non can punch, and nobody's worried about my autist fury smashing their skull open in zero G.
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Why couldn't they have just used unmanned drones for naval battles?
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>>101711290

The same can be said of firing a gun while on Earth. The force of the recoil is absorbed by your arm, which transfers it through your body, to your feet, which transfers it to the ground.
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>>101709451
This one?
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>>101711401

Because they are men.
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>>101711376
Firing outrageous things has uses on the battlefield.

>>101711414
What if you're just on a thin sheet of metal?
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>>101711475

Is that thin sheet of metal part of a larger structure? If so, the force transfers to it, otherwise you and that sheet go spinning. I could make a shitty paint image to show this..
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>>101710891

Not that much, the reason a bullet goes so fast and so far is that a large amount of energy is being expended to move the small slug. The inverse amount of energy applied to the entire mass of the human body wouldn't move it nearly as much. Action and reaction, same reason why the movie cliche of blowing a guy fifteen feet through the air with a magnum is bullshit.
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>>101711537
But you're in space. There's never a guarantee that you're on a large structure.
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>>101711475
And the things outrageous enough to cause problems in zero G are too outrageous to shoulder in one G.
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>>101711537
The shittier the better
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>>101711583

Anyone should know where they are, and how they got there.
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>>101711579
But it's more fun to see a guy fly 15 feet in the air after he was shot.
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>>101711638
You're in the middle of a battle in zero gravity. There's no time to worry about if you're standing on a good enough structure.
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>>101711666

Assuredly so. It just isn't based in reality. If we were talking a Howitzer then it would be a different story.
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>>101711685

There is if not being on one means you go flying. You don't shoot if you aren't in a good position to do so. In any case, if you're attached by your boots to a structure, you don't go flying, but you will affect the direction the structure is going, if only by a small amount. Even jumping on Earth pushes the entire planet away from you an immeasurably small amount. This is basic physics.
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>>101711849
...no. No. You push yourself away from the planet. You don't have enough force to effect the rotation of the planet, just enough to momentarily break free of its effects on you. Relative mass difference and all.
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>>101712268
The other anon's right. "For every action, there's an equal and opposite reaction" doesn't have an "unless it's really big" clause.

The key word is "immeasurably small."
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>>101712268
>You don't have enough force to effect the rotation of the planet

Yes, you do. By an absurdly minuscule amount, but you do. That's what the entire principle of action and reaction is based on.
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>>101712268
confirmed for never taking elementary science courses
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>>101711419
Yes thank you.
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>>101712268

I don't even care that I just got trolled. I have nothing better to do.

>>101711620

Shitty enough for you?
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>>101712502

Thanks Anon-sensei
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>>101712502
You still don't push it back. As it has the greater inertia it still keeps moving in the same direction. The worst you do is negligibly slow it down.
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Zephyr is highly unstable so even normal gunfire can set the shit off

remember they are dealing with a SPACE EXPLOSIVE
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>>101712619
Are you ESL? This is exactly what everyone in the thread who went to high school is telling you.
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>>101712643
Why did they fill their ships with this shit again?
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>>101712690
So they can't use their beam weapons.
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>>101712690
enemy fills their ships with it

mostly rosenritters so the enemy has no choice but to engage them in melee combat
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>>101712707
That's like the reasoning for putting tylenol in with vicodin
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>>101712740
You can't use beam weapons on vicodin, either.
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>>101712733
So, why bother? Why not have a good old fashioned gun fight?
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>>101712619

Same thing. Literally the same thing. You do push it back - away from you - which could be accelerating the planet's orbit, slowing it down or changing it's inclination. It's all the same.

Yes, the effect is so small that there exists no known way to detect it, but it is there.
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>>101712770
Because RRs are better at melee than most of the people in LoGH.

So by putting SPACE EXPLOSIVE in their ships they basically made the situation an insta-win
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>>101712778
So are trying to say it reacts like one giant solid mass because the energy would dissipate in the small spot beneath you rather than spread across the glove and actually effect anything.
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LOGH takes place hundreds of years in the future with intergalactic space fleets and Death Star fortresses, and yet they still use giant medieval war axes as their primary weapon. Their soldiers have super armor that can deflect lasers and break metal knives on impact yet they get slaughtered by anyone with an axe.

Why are you even questioning this anime?

Seriously fuck the Rosenritter and their plot armor out the ass. I dropped LoGH solely because of them. How can anyone praise this show when it has such a shit group of characters.
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>>101713077
naturally the explanation to that is that the axes and armor where made out of the same futuristic material



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