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http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/asiapcf/03/11/japan.porn.ap/index.html

"TOKYO, Japan (AP) -- Japan should ban possession of child pornography and crack down on animated films, comic books and computer games that show children being sexually exploited, UNICEF said Tuesday.

The United Nations Children's Fund said Japan's 1999 child pornography law suffers from serious loopholes that hobble law enforcement and threaten children around the world.

"Forms of child pornography that are banned in other countries but not in Japan ... are still widely available on the Internet and on the street," UNICEF said in a statement..."

looks like they're serious this time
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O RLY?
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I collected money for those assholes and this is how they repay me?!
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Eventually, this may fuck over normal series as well. I don't want to have to encrypt my hard-drive because I have a copy of Demonbane or some bullshit like that.
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>>10167299
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Goddamn, I hate this Jesus loving, save the children, Bible fucking religious country.
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Japan will make Loli illegal when they remove cesore bars from their porn..... WHICH WILL BE NEVER!
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Next halloween when i see a kid with a unicef box I will punch the child.
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BECAUSE ONE THREAD AIN'T ENOUGH!
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>>10168655

The UN can't ban shit. It's a bunch of pompous windbags in New York that have never accomplished anything in sixty years.
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sage for UNICEF
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I could really care less about lolicon, but if you actually think this is a threat, then you must be an idiot.
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>>10168700
You sir need to read the article. UNICEF, as in a UN organization, is behind this.
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thats it,japan is finished.

but seriously - good luck forcing the nips to ban loli manga,i doubt that anyone in japan has even heard of the UN failfags
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Pedobear does no approve.

If anime starts bending to something like this than Baptists will find out and fuck everything up for everyone else.
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UNITINU
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Pedobear is RAGING.
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They want loopholes?
Yoko? 14? sorry thats a typo, she's acutally a very legal 18, throughout the series -_-
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This is quoted from that news artical:
"(As) Japan, known worldwide as an IT and software contents giant, is left uncontrolled, hundreds of thousands of children ... continue to be sexually exploited,"

THEY AREN'T REAL CHILDREN YOU SHIT HEADS!!!! They are drawings!
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>>10168655are still widely available on the Internet no shit..
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the UN. propping up communist states, giving loans to people with sanctions against them, and allowing genocides in Darfur, Ruwanda, and pretty much everywhere else while being a thorn in the side of responsible countries for over 50 years, and has yet to pay back the money owed to start the building to the USA.

FUCK THE UN!
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>>10168713
I don't care, my opinion still stands.
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People really need to stop throwing around the world "child pornography" and really think about what that word means and what it's doesn't and does apply to. I'll give you a hint as to what is and isn't "child pornography".

Drawing of a fictional person =! child pornography.
Vikky.mpg == child pornography
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>>10168742
Yeah I'd like to know how the fuck they want to determine if a cartoon character is of legal age. Are they going to cut open one of the figurines and count the rings? Also, are we going to count characters that aren't human or are several hundred years old if they look underage?
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those damned UN fucktards want to take away MY lolis?

to arms, my fellow pedobear!
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>>10168778
CHOO CHOO HERE COMES THE MORALFAGGOTRY TRAIN NEXT STOP: SUBJECTIVE CITY
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Shoyonoido Mako Chan.

She's not 10, she's an adult in a 10 robot body modeled after a 10 year old. Wanna watch her suck a dick?

Also. UN should ban Elfen Lied hundreds of people have died at the hands of Lucy (it doesn't matter if it's just drawings.... or that it might be a genocide the UN NEVER does anything about those... Darfur_
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>>10168778
Ok. A very wise saying I often throw at idiots who want to save pandas in China etc etc

Worry less about animal suffering while human suffering still exists in the world.

Same applies.

Forget about 2D drawn kids when there are real kids out there being abused.
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The other article said things that LOOK like minors having sex(for example, the girl wearing a sailor uniform) are the things they want to get rid of, since age can just be changed whenever.
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japanese hate foreigner, i am not sure if otaku would surrender from this 'invasion'
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Hasn't the US already tried banning this mess and failed?
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>>10168809

Yes but they fail pretty much at everything so it doesn't count.
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Doujin = ink/pencil
Games = pixels
Hentai = combination of the other 2
All 3 = FICTION, NOT REAL, INANAMATE OBJECT!

Child porn = real children.

I don't see any real children in hentai or doujin.

WTF!? loli (and shota) do NOT use real children.
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>>10168777
So by your definition, yaoi/2 drawn males having sex=!gay porn?
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>>10168809
Yes, multiple times. The Supreme Court told them to shove it.
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>>10168816

Too few pandas... and too much humans.
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>>10168816
That's a stupid saying, really.
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>>10168840
Exactly
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fuck you unicef
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lolicon is a necessary evil. it keeps creepy otaku dorks from going out and raping little kids.
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Anyone else notice that their logo looks like a guy fucking a toddler?
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>>10168851
Freely criticize my saying when you sir, present a better one.
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>>10168817
Oh for christ sakes, there are pornos made here in the US that involve twenty year olds in girlscout outfits being taken advantage of. They dare to bitch about drawings first?
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>>10168835
that's a relief cause I'm a straight guy who is not attracted to men but I fap to Von Bridget.
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i heard loli is already banned in the U.K.
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ban midget porn cause midgets look like really ugly kids - The U.N. with Darfur genocides going on in background.
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RA­­ID RAID RA­­ID RAID RA­­ID RAID RA­­ID RAID RA­­ID RAID
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I think 2ch has more influence over Japan than UNICEF.

Therefore, this will never happen.
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>>10168884

u herd rong
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Not that I enjoy lolicon, but lets think of it
this way. Lets draw a character with a age that is unknown. Now what will they do? They can't really decide the age of the character. Especially not
when they're not the author of the characters.
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Ban shaved asian porn cause AZN women without pubes = 12 year olds with high IQs
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>>10168840
looking at the statistics that seems to be the case.
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Can't they simply ask the author in that case?
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LOL over 90% of doujin artist will be out of work.
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>>10168840
>creepy otaku dorks from going out and raping little kids.

I'm pretty sure a cripplingly social anxiety disorder is to blame for that.
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You know the more unicif tries to ge this stuff banned the more loli (and shouta) will be produced.

To quote Princess Leia: "The more you tighten your grasp, the more worlds will slip through your fingers."

Same applies here.
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>>10168840
way to generalize
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>>10168894
i think the Yakuza will have more to do with this failing i mean how else do you threaten a CEO who has a 10 year old daughter?
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>>10168816
Human beings doesn't deserve sympathy. Animals do.
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>>10168907
well at least they are happy in their utilitarian shacks lined with mecha figures while they don't hurt anything but drawings.

Do bloody action movies ENCOURAGE murder? Or do they provide a harmless outlet for otherwise overly hormonal violent teenage boys?
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>>10168835
>>10168777
IT'S != NOT =! YOU FUCKING RETARDS
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This is like when the Save the Internet thing isn't it?
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>>10168870
That's dumb as well. I don't have to have some sort of superior saying for yours to be fallacious.
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>Japan's laws
>threaten children around the world.

LOL
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I'm trying to figure out how drawn or animated child porn harms real children. I mean, wouldn't that help real ones, since it could be used as a substitute.

Sure it could be argued that it will make people want to go out and do that stuff. But those sick fucks would do it anyways.

Overall, I think it's just moralfags being retarded.

Oh, and I don't even like lolicon, but I still think it'd dumb to ban animated stuff.
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>>10168932
≠?
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>>10168964
UNICEF is a fucking weeaboo. JAPAN IS THE WORLD!
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>>10168983
pedophilia is either
A. born that way
B. the product of deep mental trauma

You can't convert people just like wathcing teletubbies doesn'tmake you gay.

You CAN however use lolicon as a harmless form of methadone style treatment that hurts NO ONE!

It's like denying vampires red corn syrup if it were to make a good substitute for human blood.
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Unicef you bastards....
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BASTARDS
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>>10168993
TOKIYO WA TOMARE
ZU WARUDO
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FUCK unicef
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>>10169026
>>It's like denying vampires red corn syrup if it were to make a good substitute for human blood.
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Japan takes its lolicon too seriously to be put down by laws. It'll strike down half of Japan's exports, as well as 80% of akihabara.
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Watch them ban lolicon, and child rape incidents around the world go up 500%, then they'll realise their fuck up and lulz will be had.

I'm not a lolicon, but I want to laugh at a worldwide fuck up by UN.
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>>10169062

This. True. Lulz will be had.
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i like how there are thousands of real children being exploited out there and yet they're going after fake ones.

also
>a major flaw with the current law is that while it bans production and distribution of child pornography, it is not a crime to possess it.

good to know!!!
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I'm no pedo, nor am I one of those "children are sexual beings too" fucktards, but banning "depictions of the sexual exploitation" of children is banning art from being able to depict something that has and always will occur. If a few pervs get off to it, big deal. Better for them to stay in their basements fapping to DRAWN GIRLS than having to go out and hurt real ones. Also, the whole "is it cute and innocent/or sexual" decision being up to the government: they'd always err on the side of caution.
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>>10169026
>pedophilia is either
>A. born that way
>B. the product of deep mental trauma

Disagree, it's like any other fetish and there are multiple ways for one to become tolerant of it/acquire a liking for it that are much more passive and less black and white than this.

Being exposed to something new and liking it, immediate or gradual, doesn't mean you were born liking it, fyi.

Agree with the substitute argument, though. That's basically proven.
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>>10169062
Laughing at the expense of young kids? Ok now I know which side I'm on.
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>>10169090

It's their fuckup, not ours.
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>>10169079
>i like how there are thousands of real children being exploited out there and yet they're going after fake ones.

That's because the fake ones are visible and therefore easy targets for your morality... and you just have to close your eyes when it comes to the real ones, pretending they don't exist.
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>>10169090

Dude, can you spell HYPOCRITE?
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>>10169090
Get the fuck out of 4chan then moralfag, we have no place for the like of you. Fucking cancer.
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>a major flaw with the current law is that while it bans production and distribution of child pornography, it is not a crime to possess it.
So, where's the loophole.
>'You're not allowed to abuse children'
> OMG THIS LAW LIKE SO MAKES CHILD ABUSE LEGAL
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>>10169113
It's pretty obvious that it meant laughing at children is a good thing, newfag.
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>>10169100
How am I a hypocrite? I genuinely don't like that shit.

>>10169098
"As long is not's me." Just like an /a/non.
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>>10169123

That "shit" is going on all the time, instead they go for something that is more visible, it's hypochrisy and you think just the same way.
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Who cares really

There's enough loli porn on the intertubes for a lifetime
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>>10169099
see the UN's stance on genocides. Same one
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>>10169082
>Being exposed to something new and liking it, immediate or gradual, doesn't mean you were born liking it, fyi.
I would say it's a little of both. External influences are definitely there, however there are also hormones that make up our sex drive, and everyone's genes are different in one way or another.

It's like obesity: some people might have a poor metabolism or their appetite can be abnormally great. In the end, it's up to the way they eat. However, we cannot simply disregard the genetic influences in all of this.
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>>10169123
You're a hypocrite because you'd support a decision that removes a venting process for pedophilic tendencies at the detriment of real children because some other anonymous guy made a comment laughed about it.
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This is like raging out at the law which was so easily passed to make anonymous posting illegal.
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I got raped in the pooper while buried in a sandbox.
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>>10169123
>"As long is not's me."

Ofcourse that's the case, if my sister/brother was abused/raped I would fucking kill the one responsible.

You truly are a genuine hypocrite.
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*stockpiles issues of kodomo no jikan*
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LOL!
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>>10169149
How's the afterlife, kid?
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>>10168779
Reporting In.
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>>10169122
Yeah, gb2gradeschool and learn some reading comprehension.
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>>10169161
SHIT SUCKS. THERE IS NO NARUTO HERE. GOD DOESN'T LIKE NARUTO.
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>>10169149

Dont worry, you are an hero to us.
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I'd say that a lot of the lust towards children is just for the 'forbidden' part of it. Like in Japan, where actual child abuse is no where near as rampant as America (or portugal), but no-one cares about huge tsunamis of loli porn. As children are completely barred from any sort of genitalia-related anything in the west, and in the east children are shown sex toys and have guys in leather hump at their faces, I wonder who actually went wrong where.
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>>10169099
Sadly, this is true. And politicians would rather keep these demons around because then they'll always have something to motivate their supporters. Let's face it, gun control advocacy, the war against drugs, the war against terror, and even some forms of modern socialism are all just wars against invisible/invincible adversaries designed to rally the support of the people and consolidate power into political bodies or individuals.
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who cares what this "UNICEF" says
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heh. if loli is alright then why don't you guys tell the people outside of your house your love for it? heh. so sad when you don't even know when something is wrong
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They are not children. They are flat-chested 20 year olds. You want proof? Here is the flat-chested 20 year old she is based on. Onii-chan? Well, 20 year olds have older brothers too.
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>>10169191

2/10
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>>10169171
Spoilers: The actual sentence doesn't have meaning one way or the other when read with no prosodic stress. When prosodic stress is placed onto a written utterance, it is in the mind of the reader where this is placed if there are no hints (maybe apart from culture, but it could either be the culture of 4chan, or of America). So the meaning is literally what is percieved. So if you naturally think that child abuse damn funny, you'll percieve this as such, and so belong on 4chan.
tl;dr No u, newfag.
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>>10169191
because people don't usually reveal their sexual fetishes to the public?
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>>10169191
Just like how posting on 4chan is all right so you're totally okay with going out into the street and talking about how awesome 4chan is.
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>>10169191
Im confident they know about it already, atleast in my case.
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>Japan should ban possession of child pornography and crack down on animated films, comic books and computer games that show children being sexually exploited, UNICEF said Tuesday.
>animated films
>comic books
>computer games
lol wut? How are children involved again?
Last I checked, all these mediums are produced by adults, voiced buy adults, and no one gets raeped in the process.
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>>10169142
But at the same time, it could get someone horned up and wanting to go out and have sex with a real kid.
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>>10169082

What about all these senators who rail against the evils of Homosexuality before getting caught trying to suck another mans dick in a public restroom?
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heh.
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>>10169222
They're just tsundere
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>>10169218
Oh then all violent movies should be banned since someone might get riled up and kill someone then..
thanks genius
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>>10169218
But real life tends toward demonstrating the opposite. Whoops.
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>>10169218
just like watching a simulated gang rape makes me want to go out and gang rape someone rite?
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If such law passes because of UNICEF's influence, I will stop supporting hungry children in Africa.

AND I HOPE CHILDREN RAPE RTAES INCREASE IN JAPAN IF SUCH THING HAPPENS.
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>>10169026
It's kind of like with Drug or alcohol addictions. No one's expecting them to change immediately. It's a long process that may take their whole lives to deal with it.
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>>10169218

Just like naruto makes me want to bury myself in sand and perform some jutsu....oh wait...
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>>10169222
(also, I wasn't really arguing that it's never the case, just not always. It bugs me about homosexuality argument too, because people seem to think the only way being gay is okay is if God reached down and made every homosexual gay at birth, never to err from his path.)
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>Just like naruto makes me want to bury myself in sand and perform some jutsu....oh wait...
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Anyone who doesn't like lolicon has no business posting here or even being affiliated with anime.
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>>10169158
Seconded.

CP is one thing, ecchi or lolicon is another. I'd never have CP, but no one is going to take Rika away from me. I hope Japan resists.

I think the UN should pressure the removed of American troops from the middle east rather than bullying otaku.
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>>10169281
>CP is one thing, ecchi or lolicon is another. I'd never have CP, but no one is going to take Rika away from me. I hope Japan resists.

2nded
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If the law was passed:
Drawn children: Banned
Scantily clad child models: Perfectly legal.
Naked child models: No change.

I wonder where this idea fucks up.
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>>10169263
In America, alcoholics are left alone, but if you're caught with a drug you're addicted to, you're arrested. The government doesn't care about any of our ailments.
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>>10169246
I think I didn't word that well. Having sex with kids is wrong, right? What I meant is since lolicon is based on the idea of that, it can possibly fuel/encourage pedophiles to keep on thinking sexual thoughts about children, therefore, the chance of them doing something bad is higher.
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>>10169308
Too bad real life does not support your statement.
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>>10169293
It fucks up because the real demon is drawn images, so real children should be allowed to be naked.
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>>10169308
>it can possibly fuel/encourage

That goes for everything else as well.
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Next step: universal ban on violent movies, TV shows, comics and video games to "discourage people from thinking violent thoughts".
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>>10169314
Says you. Think about it. If a drug addict keeps drugs around him within sight, the chances of him doing drugs are higher than if he doesn't have any drugs around him.
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>>10169321

Wait..what?
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>>10169333

I guess you've lived too much of a sheltered life...kid.
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>>10169308
Lolicon is like a drug. As long as people are on it, they won't lust for real girls.

But once they are taken off of it, they will start to look for other sources to get their fix. Then all hell breaks loose.

tl;dr Lolicon must flow.
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The sexual abuse of children has not gone up or down in the past decades. They only talk about it all the time on media because pedos are the new scare word they use to shock people into accepting censorship.
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>>10169308
The whole point of the internet is to look at all the dirty, questionable sex that you'll never have in real life because we're nerds and/or virgins. Real lolis are ugly, I prefer 2D.

When it comes to real women, I prefer them mature.
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Making it illegal is only going to make it 300 times hotter fapping to lolis.
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>>10169308
Too bad there are already studies proving you otherwise.

Do you seriously think depraving someone of food would make them rebuke food?
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>>10169281

futuramasecond.jpg
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>>10169333
Shitty analogy. Lolicon isn't a little girl you keep in your jacket pocket when the NEED kicks in. There's no more reason to believe it bolsters child abuse than fightan animus encourage beatings.
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To be fair, Japan really does have horrible laws in terms of child pornography. I know this sounds moralfaggy, but it really is for the better to crack down on CP and lolicon.
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Do not fret Anonymous! For it is I, Charlie, who is your savior. Join my cult and I shall grant thee free delicious cake, Kool AID, brainwashing and loli vagOOO. JOIN ME AND WE CAN END THIS DESTRUCTIVE CONFLICT!
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I just don't see how people could draw a positive correlation between lolicon in manga and anime to Child pornography. It's been argued that it's quite the opposite, more porn equals less children getting assaulted.

I'm pretty sure the fucktards at ANN are having a field day.
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>>10169371

"Cracking down" on loli is inexcusable because loli is just and right.

Say it with me: cartoon characters are not real humans, nor do they need human rights.
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>>10169332
And then: ban on all forms of media based on any form of conflict because conflict can lead to violence. People may now only enjoy mellow slice of life films, TV series, books, and video games.
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>>10169371
>and lolicon.

You had me up until here.
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>>10169371
>I know this sounds moralfaggy, but it really is for the better to crack down on CP and lolicon.
>and lolicon

wut
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>>10169333
I don't have a naked loli on my bed, just my Yoko waifu. I'm not going to molest a loli because that it at the loli's expense, something which goes against what I believe in (having pleasure at the expense of someone else).

Rin isn't real, no harm, no foul.
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if even imaginary porn is illeagal, UNICEF should arrest everyone who faps to rape-hentai. "It's as bad as you raped a real girl!". Or what about bondage? 4 years on jail.
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>>10169387
>Say it with me: cartoon characters are not real humans, nor do they need human rights.
Good mantra is good. Denying this is a smack in the face of the purpose of fiction.
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>>10169308
Fucking retard, hasn't it been stated time and time again that Lolicon manga actually lowers assaults on children?
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>>10169334
It was making fun of the ridiculous arguments in this thread by making an even more ridiculous argument.
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I wonder why the fuck they fucked kids back in 15th century when comics hadn't yet been invented.
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>>real loli's are ugly, I prefer 2d

Agreed. Insert any pic comparing real lolis to animu ones
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>>10169371

10/10
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>>10169385
>>I just don't see how people could draw a positive correlation between lolicon in manga and anime to Child pornography.

It's easy just close your eyes and become a retard.
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Japan is the lolicon capital.

Japan doesn't have a high rate of child abuse (or it's not reported).

Correlation or causation, who knows? Would you like to take the risk to eliminate something which doesn't harm anyone?
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>>10169387

This post. Good.
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DFC IS DEAD! ALL HAIL THE REIGN OF HEALTHY!
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at most it should be considered an obscenity charge

that way people could at least fight the law without the moral stigma of actual cp
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>When it comes to real women, I prefer them 2D too.

fixed
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You know, it's this kind of shit that makes me question whether the tinfoil hats who rave about how UN is an evil tyrannical organization that wants to rule us all really are as crazy as they sound.

But sadly, there is no conspiracy at work here, just some assholes who like to ban anything they feel is "icky".
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>>10169387
If i'm going to be charged with CP charges for possesing Lolicon, then I might as well be charged with murder for having a bunch of violent movies and mystery books.

Real people, fictional crimes? Give me a fucking break. If this isn't totalitarianism, I don't know what is.
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>Japan is to bow to international pressure and ban the possession of child pornography, although the new law is expected to anger child welfare groups by exempting manga comics and animated films.
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>>10169434

WHAT FUCKING EPISODE WAS THIS?
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>>10169459
One of the Picture Books, but I forgot which one though.
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>>10169457

sauce? It's not on the OP link
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HAIL HEALTHY!
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>>10168866
lol fuck UN!

I'll support pedobear!
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Let see: Violent vidya games means murder.
Lolicon means cp.

Anything mystery is guilt by association and in most cases with holding fictional evidence from fictional police officers.

Good God.

>>10168778
Also this remains me of the abysmal one it's so goddamn scary. Source?
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But wait, animu like higgy and niceboat which shows children killing each other is fine?
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>>10169491

IS THAT THE OVA? DOWNLOAD FUCKING WHERE?
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>>10169434
where are the nipples/
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DFC IS DEAD!
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People keep on giving all these logical arguments for lolicon, but they forget one thing: The people who want to ban lolicon don't CARE about logic.

You need to come up with another angle.
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>>10169446
>But sadly, there is no conspiracy at work here, just some assholes who like to ban anything they feel is "icky".
It's those people who make up the faceless "conspiracy" more readily than it is actually people making use of this tendency as a means to an end, really. An ill-educated populace and an endless supply of single issue lobbyists is a more effective "conspiracy" than an active 1984-style effort, but that's another discussion
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>>10169513
No, if you have these animus you are a murderer.
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>>10169529
Likewise, everyone who watched Dragon Ball Z is Hitler incarnate. The current teenage and early 20s populace are fucking horrible galactic-level killers.
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>>10169527

We should find some obscure religion which reveres depictions of child sex and revive it. That way it would become a human rights violation their part... Well, it already IS a human rights violation, but not one they comprehend since "freedom of expression" is thought of as one of those joke rights that don't really count.
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>>10169527
RESISTANCE!
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I'm all in for it. Actually I'm even a member of lobbying group which seeks increased pedo control and internet censorship.

I see no reason why loli should be allowed. It definitely shouldn't be regarded as a same thing as CP but criminalisation with minor punishments is in order for commercial products such as manga.
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As I recall from my Civil Liberties class, Obscenity is protected under the 1st Amendment if:

1. It is not UTTERLY without social, literary, or artistic value (it's not obscene). So, if you're lolicon comic has a deep story or valuable social moral, it's good to go.

2. The possession of obscenity can't be regulated, just the sale and distribution. So you can draw your own lolicon comics and fap to them in the privacy of your own home.
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The UN? Serious? Oh shit, they might EMBARGO SOMEONE!!!
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>>10169567
Hi Meru, good to see you're still a massive faggot.
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>>10169567
obvious troll
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>>10169567
Wow...what a fag.
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>>10169567
>>I see no reason why loli should be allowed. It definitely shouldn't be regarded as a same thing as CP but criminalisation with minor punishments is in order for commercial products such as manga.

Any good reason as to why it should be criminalized?
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>>10169567
Another reason to hate you Meru.
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Hai guize, I play Grand Theft Auto, I must be a murdering killer who likes to steal cars and beat people up for no reason.
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>>10169584
OH SHI
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>>10169581

All porn has artistic value. Even shit filmed in a back alley in Mexico for 50 pesos.
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First, it's going to be loli. Next, ALL PORN AND ANY TYPE OF FANSERVICE.

LOL WORLD
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>>10169591

Because it's ICKY.
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>>10169567
refer to >>10169585
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Meru against loli? but he's a fucking pedo!
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Thank god this faggot ass generation of politicians is about to die of old age. I can't wait to be rid of their influence.
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>>10169528
I'm not someone to dismiss conspiracy theories or cover ups, due that I've seen plenty of bullshit in the past eight years, enough to warrant my stance of questioning everything, and realizing that everything my country does is ass-backwards and we have criminals in Washington.

So if my country, one of the most "important" countries is fucked up, then it's reasonable to assume that other countries can be as well.

The banning of lolicon is something that is simply on somebody's agenda, and there are much more important things to do and take care of than attacking otaku. It's just oppression.
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>>10169602
Uhmm... 50 pesos. Thanks for the idea.
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so they want to apply swedish laws everywhere.. good luck.
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itt, butthurt pedophile scum that needs get cleaned from the earth like the shit they are
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>>10169612
The faggot ass politicians of old don't care about that shit. They only care about the money.

It's the newblood moralfags coming into power that's doing all this newfound shit.
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>>10169624
GODDAMN THAT'S A HUGE NIGGER DICK
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>>10169612
They're taking the rest of the world down with them. Enjoy your slowly declining global quality of life.
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>>10169434
>>10169491
>>10169508
>>10169523


I'M STILL WAITING FOR SAUCE
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>>10169638
One of the Picture Books, they should be on TT.
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>>10169638
Geass. Lurk the fuck moar
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>>10169591
All sexualisation towards children is profoudly harmful. Merchandise that portrays such action shouldn't be allowed to remain legal. Or course I'm all in for artistic expression but this is pornography we are talking about here. Drawn pornography is still pornography. Of course it's not the same thing as the actual CP, however.
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Seriously guys, what the fuck can the UN do about it? Do they have a police force or something?
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FROM MY COLD, DEAD FINGERS
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>>10169666
So you're going to get to giving ages to all of the fictional characters?

Go you!
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Guns are a bigger problem than lolicon. Ban guns.
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I think UNICEF is a pretty cool guy, eh has nothing better to do than try to ban drawing and doesn't afraid of anything.
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>>10169666
It's not harmful if no actual kids are involved.
Drawings are not discriminatory.
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>>10169690
or sandboxes, let's ban them.
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>>10169676
Are you a retard? Not everything in the world works with brute force, amerifag.
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>>10169676
This stopped being about UN free-points public relations a while ago
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contributing another post to make it hit autosage
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>>10169666
Harmful how, exactly? And to whom?
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Nothing new. Here in Swedenland they count cartooned cp as real cp. I was fucking chocked and appalled when I realized that my shotacon collection counts as real cp. I'm not a pedo dammit! Real children are fucking disgusting!
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>>10169666

Even if the drawings were banned, the thoughts would still be there, better to have a non-harmful way of "expressing" those thoughts than harm actual living girls.
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That`s right faggots, save the cartoons, let the real children be abused.
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20 more to autosage, keep it up
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>>10168655

cute not pedo!
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Please, don't let them take me Anonymous...
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I don't care.
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>>10169654


just posted a sec ago.
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>>10169712
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>>10169676

UN is de facto powerless, UNICEF even more so. They can "encourage" people to do random things because some people still erroneously believe they are important organizations.

Keeping in mind that 2D loli is a industry worth hundreds of millions of dollars in Japan, this shit has the same chance of going through as a knife made out of biscuits. What's going to happen is that the Jappos will ban possession of REAL CP (which is fine) to appease them and leave anime and manga alone like they should.

>>10169666
>All sexualisation towards children is profoudly harmful.

That logic simply doesn't follow. You could say that glorification of violence is harmful, and you'd have the exact same chance of being right, yet that is not a good reason to ban violent comics, and neither is your original statement a good reason to ban loli comics. A healthy mind knows the difference between fantasy and reality, and an unhealthy mind needs no encouragement in any case.
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Hey guys, when was the last time the UN was successful at ANYTHING?
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>>10169680
NOT LOLI, HUNDREDS OF YEARS OLD VAMPIRE!
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>>10169666
Pornography = artistic expression.
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>>10168714
Japan is actually one of the biggest supporters of the UN, which is why they're rather annoyed that they still don't have a permanent seat in the security council.
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>>10169709
Who cares? You? Then why the fuck are you sitting your ass here on 4chan being a moralfag instead of going out to help them? Fucking hypocrite.
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>>10169695
The issue is purely cultural so you have to think it in a bit wider perspective that. Nothing that is exclusively meant as pornographic entertainment should include children of any kind because the mere act of portraying children as sexual objects affect the how society views children.
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>>10169766

Yeah, this is something some faggots don't seem to understand: porn IS art. You don't like it? Fine, but that doesn't make it any less proper art. I don't like Picasso either and that doesn't stop it from being art.
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>>10169741

>Hyasfeel von Einsbern
>Hyasfeel von
>Hyasfeel

RAGE
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>>10169792
So, how are you going to distinguish age in a fictional medium?
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>>10169792

See >>10169751
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Should they outlaw loli, I shall form a coalition to go around raping children on the grounds that we have nothing else to do without loli.

Not that I would rape them, 3D = pig disgusting etc.
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Jesus fucking christ, can't we Westfags stop trying to corrupt Japan with our shitty, over-reactive, ignorant ideals?

Japan allows a really liberal freedom of expression, and I would rather that stayed for as long as possible.
Exploiting Children is bad, yeah yeah, but if these mindless soccermoms start meddling too far, this accessable culture is going to lose it's integrity.

Japan should ignore the dirty gaijin ideals and keep their flawed-yet-decent culture.
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SPOILERS: Having sex with children is not immoral nor harmful.
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It's profoundly ridiculous that the drawing of any given sort of image should ever be considered a crime. It's unthinkable in a just society.
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>>10169800

count me in...or not.i hate rly lolis...they are fcken disgusting.
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>>10169845
You can be an organizer.
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>>10168655
Try harder faggots.
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>>10169830
Yes it is. Enjoy getting your ass pounded in prison you fucking pedo!
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>>10169666
Thats a blatant lie. In this case Lolicon has reduced the amount of assaults on little kids. Thats GOOD for the children.

The number of victims also decreased particularly among the females younger than 13 (Table 2). In 1972, 8.3% of the victims were younger than 13. In 1995 the percentage of victims younger than 13 years of age dropped to 4.0%.

http://www.hawaii.edu/PCSS/online_artcls/pornography/prngrphy_rape_jp.html#data
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>>10169792
You're still making sweeping generalizations that sound fine until you realize reality doesn't back them up at all. The country in question doesn't have a rash of child abuse/rape by any means, yet is much more liberal about fictional depictions of this nature than those with much worse REAL LIFE conditions.

More fictional characters being maimed/raped/killed/turned into giant snakes with foreskin tongues DOES NOT EQUATE to these things becoming more common in reality.
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>>"(As) Japan, known worldwide as an IT and software contents giant, is left uncontrolled, hundreds of thousands of children ... continue to be sexually exploited,"

This is why we shouldn't let people like this succeed. They are willing to cheat, over-exaggerate and lie just to get their way.
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"Most studies show lolicon decreases actual child rapes, but it's tangentially related to it so let's ban it JUST IN CASE." That's what the whole argument here translates to.

These people are so fucking deeply afraid of pedos that their brains don't function anymore. People who find kids erotic are not going to find them any less erotic just because they don't have ready-made porn around. If anything, they will be more likely to make some of their own.
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>>10169892
>turned into giant snakes with foreskin tongues
>DOES NOT EQUATE to these things becoming more common in reality

Sadly.
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>>10169624

Go back to Dva.chan you hypocritical faggot.
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>>10169920
Oh how awesome that would be, I want my own foreskin snake nao!



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