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Left is vastly superior.
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>>101686060
Is this legit?
I've seen independent flash animators with more impressive work than Adventure Time.
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>>101686085
/co/ pls
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>>101686060
>left
24fps
consistently on model
interesting art style
good use of colour
>right
8-10fps
varying greatly in quality
generic anime art style
bad cgi
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Japanese money is worth more
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An episode of Adventure Time would be better than anything written by Urobitch.
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whats the deal with adventure time? many people talk about but it looks retarded
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>>101686060
Most VAs and animators work for food in Japan.
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>>101686184
So you're telling me I can have an anime made for a pallet of ramen and beans?
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>>101686170
>interesting art style
>good use of colour
1/10 got me to respond.
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>>101686178
dont be stupid, uroborchi maybe shit. but adventure time isnt any better
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>>101686060
Most of it is the drug stipends for the animators.

The good shit don't come cheap, you know.
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>>101686170
>left interesting art style
hahahhahaaha are you serious?
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>left
>animation

>right
>stills and CG shit
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>>101686085
underaged faggot pls
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>>101686170
Hilarious
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>>101686170
Cool opinions.
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>>101686232
The in-between animators for little witch academia got payed about $5 per a drawing for 600 drawings each. That is way over priced aswell being government funded.
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>>101686289
>>left
>>cgi shit
>>right
>>stills and CG shit
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>>101686334
Finally I can realize my dream as long as I don't mind the QUALITY.
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>>101686060
Number of episodes each? Frames per second? Starving ratio?
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>>101686060
Right:senmetsu
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>>101686420
>Number of episodes each
That's the price of one episode.
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>>101686385
Well LWA budget was 38 million yen which is about $370k and that was rather high quality. You could easily hire a studio to make an episode of something if you saved money.
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>>101686420
Adventure time: 150 episodes.
Gargantia: 12.
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>>101686469
How the fuck can one episode of anime cost so much?
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What's the name of the right one?
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>>101686420
>Number of episodes each? Frames per second?Starving ratio?
Were you trying to sound smart or something?
I know Adventure time fanbase is pretty much a bunch of toxic retards, but this... I mean, come on.
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>>101686532
Because people have to get paid
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>>101686503
If I win the lottery I'm totally gonna do this. That's really dirt cheap if you can make something that sells even a small amount of overpriced merch.
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>>101686536
Boku no Squid-tachi Ningen da.
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Adventure Time is funny though.
And they actually pay their creators more than a bowl of rice a day.
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It's almost as if the American and Japanese animation industries are completely different or something.
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>>101686532
Something to do with each episode having anywhere between 8000-12000+ drawings depending on quality, an OST, directors, VAs coloring, marketing etc.
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were the later seasons of AT really as shitty as people make them out to be? I've only seen the first season so far, but I really enjoyed it.
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>>101686554
How long does one episode take to produce? How many animation slaves does it take?
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>>101686532
Welcome to the world of animation. Enjoy your stay.
Ghost in the Shell SAC was like $200-300k per episode.
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>>101686532
Animator here.
Fuck you.
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>>101686173
Actually no.
Or maybe dollar got incredibly shittier (wouldn't surprise me).
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>>101686615
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xscSaGa76r8
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>>101686615
No.
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>>101686532
You nonon faggots are the worst kind of avatarfaggots.

I hope you die a painful death alone.
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>>101686638
Fixed pay rates for project animators

Animation takes place from Sep-Dec, 380 cuts and 11,000 inbetween frames.
1 Director: To be paid a 800,000 yen one-time fee for planning, script, and storyboard. To also be paid 400,000 yen a month for 6 months for active duties throughout the project.
1 Character designer: To be paid a 800,000 yen one-time fee for character designs.
1 Animation director: to be paid 600,000 yen per month for 4 months.2
1 assistant animation director: to be paid 400,000 yen per month for 4 months.
6-12 Keyframe artists: To be paid 20,000 yen a cut x 380 cuts. Total keyframe budget is 7.6 million yen.3
33 Inbetweeners doing 300 drawings each for a total of 11,000 drawings: to be paid 600 yen per drawing. Total inbetweening budget is 6.6 million yen.4
1 Inbetween checker to be paid 750,000 yen.
Reserve funds for animation: 450,000 yen.
Total: 23.4 million yen for animation.

This is the budget for the Young Animator Training Project, nip government funded so think of the figures of pay as vastly inflated because they didn't want anyone taking more work while on the project.
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>>101686655
That's still really cheap considering SAC was one of the high points of TV anime as far as animation goes.
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>>101686615
at least is has more seasons than jyu oh sei 2, electric boogaloo
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>>101686664
How did you get in the business? What do you do? What is your average work day like? I'd really like to know, it's been my lifelong dream to work in the business.
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>>101686714
That's called a reaction image.
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>>101686699
OReilly is awesome
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxPyN6IK1tM
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>>101686532
Why do you think OPs and EDs take up more than 3 minutes
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>>101686745
I see them as meme pushers, who push the use of memes as acceptable.
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>>101686745
>reaction image
>use it in every single post he makes
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>>101686615
>liking adventure time
Kill yourselves.
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>TV version
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>>101686783
There's nothing wrong with the show.
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/co/ pls
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>>101686655
money well spent
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>>101686782
>Anonymous
>no other Nonon images in that chain of replies
I'm sorry, what the fuck?
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>>101686803
nice screen saver
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>>101686783
>Trying hard to be weeabo
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>>101686586
>Adventure Time is funny though.
Maybe if you're 12.
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>>101686782
Do you see multiple posts there? Because I see a single post.
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>>101686173
The yen is pretty undervalued right now.
If we use the current Big Mac index of 67.04 on ¥11,000,000 we get a value of $164,081 per episode.
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>>101686546
Good try, but I'm nowhere close to a fan of that "Adventure Time" thinguie.

I'm a Spaniard, dude. Though I wouldn't be surprised if they had it dubbed already.
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>>101686781
Check out this hachikuji avatarfaggot >>101686735
Fucking memepusher
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>>101686722
>Animation takes place from Sep-Dec
>300 drawings
>600 yen
That makes 1750 dollars 4 months pay for an inbetweener.
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>>101686886
its too late, reaction images are ingrained in internet sociology. We have to accept it
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>>101686546
>toxic
Oh boy, here we go
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How.
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>>101686874
>I'm a spaniard so I can't be an Adventure Time fan

Yeah, that's why everyone who isn't in Japan can't be an anime fan.
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>>101686886
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>>101686930
Voice actors get bank in america I hear
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>>101686930
the simpsons had cgi
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>>101686847
>>101686865
Just the fact that you saved that shitty picture in your computer means you've avatarfagged somewhere. Not necessarily in this thread. Faggot.
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>>101686858
What? This makes no sense.
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>>101686930
one has more than 5 screens per scene
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>>101686699
Jesus Christ, that shit's even more retarded than I assumed it was.
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>>101686930
Animation costs money.
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>>101686930
Seriously? That's fucking crazy. I wonder what anime would look like with the kind of budget Americans get
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>>101686060
Adventure time>>>>> Gargatian

How does an episodic series have a better plot and storyline than Gargatian?
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What is the point of those threads?
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Best selling show of 2013.
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>>101686955
What the hell is going through your head?
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>>101686988
/a/ needs to compare to be better.
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>>101686992
This fact makes me cringe
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>>101686955
That is nonsense. Stop raging.
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>>101686930
left - fluid animation throughout, high salaries for voice actors, massive advertising budget

right - nice-looking wallpapers but little actual animation, entire staff paid peanuts
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>>101686992
Game of thrones did better.
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>>101686807
You're pants on head retarded if you like shows of that nature. It's on the same level as mlp.
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>>101686981
What the fuck is Gargatian
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>>101686886
>no reaction images allowed on 4chan
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>>101687051
We aren't on /tv/ you fucking idiot.
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>>101686955
Just the fact that you've save anime on your computer means you've been a shameless weeaboo doing handsigns at one point.
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>>101686952
Each of the 6 main voice actors get paid more for one episode than it cost to make 5cm/s.
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>>101686615
S1 is...different. If you like S2 you're going to LOVE S3, and then S4 will be good, and then S5 will be boring at first, but then get really, really good toward the end.

It's honestly my favorite thing on television right now.
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>>101686735
Step 1: Be Bahi JD
Step 2: There is no step two. Give up now, you will never become a Japanese animator. You're doomed to be a baka gaijin forever.
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>>101686783

Adventure time is enjoyable enough that nobody really feels intimidated when you say its shit.

Its like making fun of fun of somebody for being white. Its like, whatever that has no impact. You are clearly jealously buttblasted by the state of whats obvious.
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>>101687074
but we need to compare it to everything. Only then will anime be a truly omnipresent anime
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>>101686955
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>>101687059
Both are pretty good for kids shows.
>but muh mature shows!!!
Fuck off.
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>Watching Cartoon Network post-2007.
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>>101687059
>hasn't actually watched it

Just because a show is made in the west, doesn't mean you can't enjoy it.
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>>101686655
And it still looks damn good. If only more anime had budgets like that.
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>>101686735
>How did you get in the business?
Practiced animation nearly all my life, got my first online commissions when I turned 14 and later moved on to get a few part time jobs at a handful of studios. Once I got a large enough following to work on my own shit I got the fuck out of there and never looked back.
I've never worked for any studios in Japan though and I would kill for the opportunity.
>What do you do?
Mostly in-between work. Got to direct a few scenes on occasion though.
>What is your average work day like?
Fun when everything goes smoothly but they will push you so hard. Sometimes they will make you stay overtime all night without giving you an extra dime since "you love doing it so much".
Hollywood animation studios make me sick but perhaps I just worked at the wrong places.
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>>101687113
Its how yo started, its how future generations will start. Its the greatest way of advertising.
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>>101687086
I said nothing about wanting to be Japanese. I'd like to work in animation anywhere.
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>>101687085
>tumblr
>enjoying adventure time
This has to be a troll.
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>>101686170
Wow, you sure convinced me with those hot opinions.
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/co/ shitposting again? Don't you have capeshit to circlejerk over?
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>>101687009
I always forgot how /a/ like compare anything.
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>>101686181
It's like MLP but for hipsters.
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>>101686060
>>101686783

Adventure time is amazing though.
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>>101687072

>Do not post the following outside of /b/: Trolls, flames, racism, off-topic replies, uncalled for catchphrases, macro image replies, indecipherable text (example: "lol u tk him 2da bar|?"), anthropomorphic ("furry"), grotesque ("guro"), post number GETs ("dubs"), or loli/shota pornography. Keep /pol/ in /pol/. In essence: Don't shitpost.

> macro image replies

He's actually right. But no one's going to stop using them now.
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>>101687108
>>>/mlp/
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>>101687130
Are you david firth?
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>>101687102
No one feels intimidated because they know it's shit but they still like it. It's a children's cartoon, no one gives a fuck.

Whereas if you know a show isn't shit, you'll defend your viewpoint as to why it isn't.
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>>101687146
Abandon all hope.
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>>101686955
>Just the fact that you saved that shitty picture in your computer means you've avatarfagged somewhere.
0/10
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>>101687176
It's alright.
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Adventure time has way fluider animation though. Generally most tv anime are pretty cheap in that regard.
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>>101686874
Dude, it's been broadcasted on public TV for maybe three years. And I've met many people who where already fans and watched the latin dub on youtube.
Yo también era reticente al principio, pero ahora me veo el streaming en directo.
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>>101687168
compare anime to everything, video games, book, manga. how it works. thank you america, for turning everything into a competiton.
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>>101687152
I'm not from tumblr. I just didn't rename the file. It's from Sir's tumblr.
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>>101687176
Holy shit, since when was Adventure Time 3D?
How disgusting and lazy. This is almost as bad as the new Powerpuff Girls.
>>101687189
Nah
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>>101686783
It's pretty fun though I can like anime and AT, it's fun and lighthearted. And it has feelsy moments too.
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>>101686060
Left is actually animated, not a bunch of still shots whit sound over them.
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>>101687072
I haven't been posting in this thread yet, but moot has tried a couple times to ban or curb reaction images across 4chan. There have been points in the site's history where they were so overused you could hardly find 5 meaningful (read: terrible, but at least had text) posts in a thread with 100-200 responses.

The guys in this thread at posting text with their images though, and are completely unrelated to the aforementioned mess.
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>all these Adventure Time fans
We're being trolled, r-right?
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>>101687189
I wish he was. The world needs a new Jerry Jackson.
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>>101687130
What was it that you disliked about them? Do you do any writing, or only drawing. What do you actually do technically? Keyframes? In betweeners?
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>>101687186
Macro images have superimposed text on them.
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>>101686992
Volume 7 only sold 35k so far. Sales average plummeting just about 53k currently.
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why're so many /co/ lurking in /a/ ? Go back to /co/ plz
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>>101687190
>they know it's shit but they still like it

What?
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>>101686955
Listen, if you don't have at least 1, no at least 10 images on your computer to use as reaction images I don't even know what the fuck you're doing on this site.

It's honestly one of the best things about 4chan, not like that's saying much.
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>>101687279
No
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>>101687249
It's a special episode completely in 3d by David OReilly (this guy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NX_vcjZmQ9w), complete with glitchcore soundtrack and even more fucked up stuff than usual.
You should watch it.
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>>101687085

this is subtle trolling I imagine.

If I recall S3 and S4 were some of the weakest, while S1 and S2 were some of the most witty and high energy adventures in the show.

S5 is actually marking a decent transition with the show, from random adventuring to a more stable continuous plot.
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>>101686980
Just watch Little Witch Academia and you'll find out.
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>>101687249

>How disgusting and lazy. This is almost as bad as the new Powerpuff Girls.

That was only a single episode and the 3dcg was pretty godtier.
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>>101687014
Why?
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>>101687246
>I'm not from tumblr
>Knows who's tumblr it's from
Yes, you are.
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>>101687332
Will do
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>>101687317
You should have at least 5000. I'm not kidding in the least bit.
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>>101687190

Did you just say that fun things aren't fun?
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>>101687249
>ppg

fuck you
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>>101687344
why you gotta be so upset about sources anon
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Inferno Cop budget when? Iwant to know how much an episode costs.
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I don't know why I expected better, but I truly thought /a/ would at least be better than watching shit like at.
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>>101687384
Tumblr brings cancer with it. It makes tumblrfags feel accepted here. Pic related.
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>>101687317
I don't save images from 4chan and usually only post them when its a screenshot to demonstrate a point. Otherwise text works just fine to convey any meaning. Reaction images are for shtposters and greeentexters, those without adequate means to express themselves in the written word.
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>>101687275

Why do you need a 5 paragraph reply when you can get the point across with a reaction face?
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>>101687317
Reaction image =/= Avatarfagging
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>>101687130
What did you animate?
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>>101687407
Couch change and dreams.
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>>101687407
Two sandwiches and a six pack of beer.
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>>101687382
sucks don't it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7olAH0rDog
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>>101687414
>/a/
>not watching shit
Look at the catalog, son.
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>>101687414
Come on, Gargantia wasn't THAT bad. Especially the belly dancing was great.
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>>101687407
Animating the flames alone must be half the budget.
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>being this upset over Adventure Time
How fucking insecure can you be, none of you have even watched it have you?
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>>101687427
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>>101687384
>3dpd
>tumblr
Of course you'd like Adventure Time.
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>>101687432
Exactly why moot's attempts never went anywhere. I'm pretty sure he realized it was a bad idea the 2nd time.

Image macros are just fucking gay though and it's good those are banned.
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>>101687449
Goddammit, the professor looked fine, and then suddenly...
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>>101687344
How do you not know who SIR is? He makes all the /fit/ comics. I'm trying to say I'm not from "tumblr", aka the hivemind associated SJW shithole. This is from a /fit/izen's blog that happens to be hosted on tumblr.

>>101687329
I actually thought S3 was the best, just as good as S2. It got a bit bleh in the middle, but it still had plenty of adventure. People just hate the shipping episodes, there are like 5 in the whole season.
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>>101687414

Sorry you feel that way

Maybe you just don't have a depth enough breadth of viewer-ship to appreciate how mold breaking AT is.
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>>101687452
Even Dragonaut was better than Adventure Time, and that's really fucking saying something.
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With all due respect, but adventure time is a way superior show (in creativity, uniqueness of the art-style and concept as 10-minute short as whole, better voice-acting, better music) and the fact that people working on it get paid better should be viewed in a positive light. we don't want korean sweatshop-animators in the USA.
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>>101687472
Why would I force myself to watch crap? I've seen enough of it to question the taste of anyone who would willingly subject themselves to more of it.
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I'll never understand the hate AT gets.

is it because of reddit or something?

The only western TV I've watched in the past few years were some AT episodes and RS.

I thought they were pretty funny. Much better than most of the shit I watched as a kid.
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>>101687427
I appreciate your concern for literacy and the ability to express thoughts other than "HUR THIS GRILL A ___". But reaction images are eeply ingrained part of 4chan's culture, and even help to stave of the use of emoticons. As long as you actually place a thought with the image, things are fine.
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>>101687564
That's exactly why nobody cares about your opinions, son
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>>101687557
No it isn't.
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>>101687526
>How do you not know who SIR is?
Because I'm not a filthy cross-boarder.
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In other news, japs pay shitty wages.
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>>101687526
>going on /fit/
You're only making this worse.
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>>101687591
They are shit and I have never used or collected them the entire 7 years I have been posting.
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>>101687585
Weeaboos that honestly believe that only Japan can produce good animated shows. Let them be.
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>>101687564
How fucking depressing is this thread, anon.
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>>101687431
No one in this thread is avatar fagging. Do you even know what that means? Even posting an unrelated picture of a person isn't avatar fagging.
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>>101687585
It's disgusting western shit. If you seriously like western stuff you're a brain dead moron.
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>>101687291
I strictly work freelance commissions and YouTube now. I don't know how long this is going to last but the past years away from studios sure have been great.
I basically do everything for my cartoons with the exception of music and few voices.
I hated being on a creative leash and being paid like shit. It made me start to resent my favourite hobby so much that I almost gave up my career entirely so I could get a regular job and animate for fun instead.
Don't let my posts scare you away from animation, it is the most rewarding thing in my life and I love it. Other animators will tell you also. Just don't expect the big bux.
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>>101687563
Oh. But it's okay to get Koreans to animate almost all your shit for you right?
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>>101687669
>being that much of a self-hating weeb
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>>101687616
Yeah, I guess it isn't really saying anything.
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>>101687648
I was going to post >>101686945 but someone beat me to it.
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>>101687673
Why didn't you just make a ton of money and then animate afterwards
Now you will be perpetually poor your whole life
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>>101687669
You're western yourself, aren't you? You should kill yourself then, or become a terrorist.
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>>101686060
Fucking /co/ invasion
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>>101687564

But... You are basically being a little kid. You won't try a food because you think it will taste ucky. But you haven't tasted it.

AT is legitimately very subverse in its humor. Its a way of telling adventure stories thats like watching a game of D&D being played well. Its really fun and creative. The animation is smooth.

The only issue is the that the writers are hispters and occasionally toss retarded words and lingo into it.
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>>101687585
It's a shitty show and that plays to the same type of humor tumblr has.
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>>101687755
tumblr likes both
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>>101687669
Really? You don't even like the original PPG or Dexter's lab? I have the box sets sitting between Nichijou and Sora no Woto.
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>>101687650
You've yet to prove that statement wrong, but you can't. There isn't a single country in the world that compares to the diversity and size and openness of the japanese animation industry.
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>>101687648
Lets see, what happened 7 years ago... Oh yeah. The average intelligence dropped a few points worldwide. I wonder if there's a correlation?
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>>101687669
There's a vital question here. Do you dislike western things as they are now because they're producing low quality shows? Or do you dislike those shows BECAUSE they're western?

If it's the former, you're entitled to your own opinion. I respect that. Otherwise, you're not fucking Japanese.
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European animation > Murrika and Japan
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Spongebob is the best cartoon
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It's all the same kiddie shit, one is for stoners and one for loners.
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>>101687449
What
Why the fuck did they do that
Why do they look so creepy now
God fucking dammit
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>>101687810
I wasn't born 7 years ago.
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>>101687790
>PPG or Dexter's lab? I have the box sets sitting between Nichijou and Sora no Woto.
What kind of shit organizing do you do?
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>>101687186
>Shitposting is literally against the rules.
Is it time to rev up those reports?
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>>101687832
23 minute long fast food commercial.

As expected from the land of freedom.
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>>101687755

I think the issue is that people on /a/ have no sense of humor.

Somebody who watches anime to the exclusion of everything else can't have a developed sense of humor. Drama, sure. but Anime can't pull off any humor that isn't a pun or physical comedy.

So they would find AT stale because the big draw of it is rendered dulled on their senses.
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>>101687839
What is a show for lonely stoners then?
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>>101687790
>buying anime, manga or related merchandise
Check this pleb out.
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>>101687839
Hence why /a/ hates AT so much. All loners.
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>>101687830
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Fucking normalfags.
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>>101687881
Shitposting has ALWAYS been against the rules. Moot just had to add that little addendum because people were too stupid to realize that global rule 3 literally translates to "do not shitpost".
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>>101687790
pics or didn't happen
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>>101687917
>the only way in which one can acquire an appreciation of humor is by consumption of mass media

I'LL HAVE ONE HAMBUTGHA PLEASE!!
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Western animation has always been better than eastern mostly because they get bigger budgets.
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>>101687869
LMNOPQRS
The alphabet, but I lazily put Dexter's lab there after watch a few episodes yesterday.
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>>101686060

fucking unions in the left eat too much budget
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>>101687920
the pleb is you
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>B-BUT ADVENTURE TIME HAS A LOT OF ANIMATION
Animating noodles isn't hard and animation without actual substance is still garbage.
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>>101687186
Image macros are the ones like motivationals and moronic pictures with a face and TROLLED HARD text.

moot never managed to add reaction images to the banned list.
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>>101687917
No, the humor in Adventure Time really is awful. It's just as bad as mlp.
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>>101687918
Welcome to the NHK
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>>101687741
>The only issue is the that the writers are hispters and occasionally toss retarded words and lingo into it.
>Mathematical

Really my only problem with it. And I got over caring a long time ago, it's fun to watch.
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>>101687963
>sorting by alphabet
>not sorting by gojuon order
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>>101687852
Really? Could have sworn otherwise.
No shit, Sherlock.
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>>101687755
then why watch anime? Anime is all over tumblr
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>>101687993
The anime cut almost almost all drug abuse though.
That's why its shit.
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>>101687991

No U
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>>101687943
I know it's always been against the rules in concept, but now it's in plaintext for all the retards.
Wasn't there a way to crosslink to the rules?
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>>101687806
>diversity
>size
>openness
That's great, they're not indicators of quality though.
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>>101687968
>hasnt noticed kelly is an ironic cartoonist working for the onion
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>>101688025
Don't be retarded. There is a difference between tumblr liking something and something being made to pander to tumblr's culture.
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What's going on in this thread
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>>101687956

If humor is a nutrient, then american animation is bland primarily, with functional nutrients.

Japan is, chips or something. Got some starch.
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>>101688051
Secret of Kells was such a great movie
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>>101688084
>has to explain the joke
God damit, I swear this place is an intellectual vacuum.
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>>101687968
I gave away all my BDs, books and vinyl along with most of my other possessions barring the essentials computer, wallet, phone, internet, general utensils a few months back actually. I would never buy any of it again. It is all just worthless shit that sits on your shelf collecting dust reaffirming your sense of self just in case you wake up and have an identity crisis some day. In the event you can look up and say 'Oh yes I am anon I like comic books and anime' and that will calm you. Its nice having an empty apartment.

Nobody watches streams of anything.
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>>101687991
>watching MLP
You have no right to complain about Adventure Time
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>>101688088

G-gravity Falls is good.
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>>101687806
How do you want us to prove you wrong? Do you want us to compare shows? Japanese shows are meant for Japanese people, I don't relate to them as much as I do to American shows.

Japanese are weird as shit. Half of the shit they do doesn't apply to the western world. Do you think it's "good drama" when a girl leaves a love note in a guys shoe locker? Do you think that happens in America? Do you think people have to "confess their love" to go out with someone? Are you delusional?

How about falling over on some girl and "accidentally" fondling her breasts? Does that sound funny to you? Funnier than something like Archer, or Bob's Burgers? How can you be that deluded.
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has adventure time ever been referenced in anime? I believe gainax/trigger creators would enjoy it a lot if they liked south park etc.
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>>101687741
>You won't try a food because you think it will taste ucky. But you haven't tasted it.
>>101687564
>I've seen enough of it to question the taste of anyone who would willingly subject themselves to more of it.
More like, I'm not going to finish the plate and ask for seconds before I decide I don't like it.
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>>101688088
So AT got canceled?

I saw like three episodes of gravity falls, pretty good.
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>>101688113
>calling trolling in the form of "pretending to have an opposite opinion" a "joke"
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>>101688088
Gravity Falls is the chemo saving both western animation and Disney.
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>>101688170

Ok. What specifically is so bad?

You hate the animation, the humor, all of it?

What do you consider good so I can get a bearing on taste.
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>>101688088

Wow, that's all /co/ gets? I feel nothing but pity for them.
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I like Adventure Time, you fags are just afraid to ruin your hipster cred by enjoying anything not made by glorious nippon.
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>>101688194
>CG
>CG
>Flash
>Flash
Goddamn depressing.
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>>101688088
>Giving Gravity Falls shit

You take that back you fucking cocksucker, it's the only good thing on that list
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>>101688115
Or, you know, I like reading physical material like books and watching stuff on my TV without needing to use up 20 gigs of precious anime space.
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>>101688120
>watching MLP
Where the fuck did I say I watch and enjoy mlp? I live with normalfags and end up seeing all kinds of stupid shit since we are all in the same room the majority of the time.
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>>101688145
You're not any better than him. Just withhold your own biases and enjoy a show without having to project either culture on it.
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>>101688194
>Emmy award winning
I don't have enough guns or sleeping sleeping pills to commit the amount of suicide I want to from this.
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>>101688306
That sums up my feelings about this thread perfectly.
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>>101688255
That film-noir BMO episode was pretty good.
I also liked this biddy cop episode.
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>>101688145
>Do you think it's "good drama" when a girl leaves a love note in a guys shoe locker?
Pretty sure nobody does in either land.
>Do you think that happens in America?
Pretty sure I have seen in it rubbish high school films, probably doesn't happen there or in Japan though.
>Do you think people have to "confess their love" to go out with someone?
Do you?
Are you delusional?
Are you?

Japan is not like in your chinese cartoons. All you need to do is go on youtube and listen to Japs answering questions about how real high school compares to anime highschool.

>How about falling over on some girl and "accidentally" fondling her breasts? Does that sound funny to you?
Are you implying that American shows do not have its large share of puerile and childish humor? If so that's laughable.
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>>101688368
>All you need to do is go on youtube
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Fuck /co/
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>>101688279
Okay so you read a book. You then get rid of it I assume?
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>>101688194

2014 one?
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>>101688298
That's what I do, but honestly sometimes I realize that half the plot of an anime is based on some stupid cultural thing that I can't even comprehend and I have to drop it.

It just baffles me how anyone can just go "oh this is from x, I can't enjoy it". Because that is not a good reason for anything.
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>>101688283
Normalfags don't watch MLP. Just go ahead and admit you only compared them because one is generally considered cancer, despite not having seen either.
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>>101688394
What is the point of this quote?
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>>101688414
Not done yet.
Or atleast i don't have it.
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>>101688414
It's only February.
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>>101688430
I'm a normal fag and I watch MLP.
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The trip-hop/glitch music in Adventure Time is sometimes a bit too much for me, but otherwise it's good I guess.
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>>101688411
No, why would I? I reread shit all the time and loan it to friends.

Go watch fight club again, you 16 year old.
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>>101688430
No, I really do live with faggots who watch shit like mlp and Archer in the room my computer is in. I know exactly how shit these types of shows are. They aren't funny.
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>>101688418
It's perfectly reasonable if they've tried it and know they don't like it. And in all my years of watching anime, I've never run across any concepts that I can't understand. Stories are pretty universal things, and small cultural quirks like eating habits aren't relevant in the actual plot at all. Could you give an example of something you dropped like you said?
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>>101688497
Sounds like you just hate your roommates. The poor cartoons did nothing to you.
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>>101688347
And it sums up my feelings about /a/ in general. Why the fuck am I even here?
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>>101688229
The art style is a huge turn-off. The characters look stupid, they act stupid, the voices make them sound stupid. It makes the humor come off as stupid even if it isn't.
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>>101688403
Wikipedia says 25 cartoons aired in the US in 2013.
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>>101688497
>comparing MLP and Archer
You're just being silly now.
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>>101688497
>Archer
>Shit show

No one can have taste this bad.
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>>101688497
You have shit taste.

I've never met someone who doesn't think Archer is funny. You just have shit taste, it's simple.
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>>101688368
>Are you implying that American shows do not have its large share of puerile and childish humor?

The issue is, is that the highest point of japanese humor is physical comedy and puns.

Even american kids shows hit a home run every so often. Adventure time is the babe ruth of that. metaphor.
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>>101688443
To highlight the point where your post went from making a reasonable point to going full retard of course. Listening to nip attention whores vlogging on youtube wont teach you anything.
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>>101688497
You are the fag and the one with shit taste.
Just leave.
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>>101688486
Then you're not normal.
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>>101688255
I enjoy AT and BW but any american animation these days ain't even up to scratch in animation or story telling unless it was disney or ATLA "that was even animated by koreans"

tl:dr anime>old disney/other animation at the time>french animated shorts>murrica cartoons ** In my opinion
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>>101688563
/a/ Archer > /co/ Archer
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>>101688596
Why would it not? At the very least it tells you how people who are Japanese who would vlog would perceive the Japanese culture.
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>>101688537
No, my roommates are actually decent people, shit taste in media aside.
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>>101688555
>I don't like the character designs
>therefore the humor and stories are stupid

Even if the character design pisses you off, the backgrounds are great.
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>>101688628
>old Disney and European/Slavic animation not above Anime

wow
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>>101688497

Ok. So we are at the root of the problem.

You have no sense of humor and can't tell when things are funny.

What is funny to you man. Name your top 3 funniest shows. I bet you can't. Because you were born without the capacity to laugh. Thats why you only watch anime.
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>>101688670
I bet they think the same when you watch anime.
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>>101688555

Well, I don't find the art style that bad at all.

I hated Ed, edd, and eddys are style, so I can see how you hate something everybody likes.
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>>101688682
lolis > Snow bitch
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>>101688528
I can only give examples of manga, I actually don't watch much anime, since I'm a source-materialfag. Also they're all harems/romance so it's not really fair.

One of the things I dropped the hardest was Suzuka. I just could not stand how it was "will they or won't they" the whole fucking time. It annoyed the shit out of me, like nails on the chalkboard. And most romance mangas are like that unless they're 2-3 volumes long.

I mean, how can you interact like that and NOT realize your own feelings? How is it so taboo to try and have physical contact with someone you're not dating?
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It's not like Japanese kids shows are much better. Most of them are unwatchable if you're older than 5.
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How many anons here like Gintama but dislike AT? Or vice versa?
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>>101688682
just personal preference

EoE does leave an impression
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>>101688755
Oh I see. You base the quality of animation on its ability to cater to your degeneracy. Not on its actual merit.
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>>101688783
I like both, but Gintama is much better. AT doesn't have Sugita.
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>>101688688
They really aren't funny. I can't think of a single funny American cartoon TV show. I could name some funny anime but you've probably never heard of them.
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>>101688822
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>>101688789
try When the Wind Blows if you want something that leaves an impression.
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King of the Hill>Futurama>South Park>piss>archer>american dad>superjail>shit>adventure time>family guy=simpsons.
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>>101688682
this.
old European/Russian short animations > all.
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>>101688702
I don't watch anime around them because I am not a faggot and I know how to hide my powerlevel.

>>101688688
>you have no sense of humor
Possibly, I don't go out of my way to find humor in things, it happens when it happens. Shows designed to specifically to be humorous come off as forced and childish to me.
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>>101688822
>I could name some funny anime but you've probably never heard of them.

hahaha bullshit.

Name these obscure unicorns.
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>>101688901
Old Simpsons are great, though.
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Comparing cartoons for little kids with anime for manchildren is retarded. Use anime for little kids instead.
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>>101688764
>Also they're all harems/romance so it's not really fair.
I'm not some idiot that's going to scream "WELL THEN YOURE OBJECTIVELY WRONG", but for the sake of this argument, I can't see the validity in your point unless you actually give me some solid examples.

Fact of the matter is that Japan as a whole is much less straightforward about their actions and feelings. But they're still the same humans as all of us. Recognizing their differences should really be no more difficult than understanding that some people are introverted and uncomfortable facing their own feelings. If you can understand people besides yourself, there should be no issue at all in understanding that.
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>>101688822
>I could name some funny anime but you've probably never heard of them.
I'm about to gouge out my eyes. What the fuck is wrong with you. I want you to be kidding. I really do. I'm hook, line, and sinker falling for this.

You are the worst type of person. If I met you in real life I would probably evacuate every orifice in my body to try and get away from you. My body would literally cause itself to forcefully eject liquid feces, urine, blood, and vomit as a defense mechanism. This is how much you suck.
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>>101688925

>Possibly, I don't go out of my way to find humor in things, it happens when it happens. Shows designed to specifically to be humorous come off as forced and childish to me.

I getcha now. This makes perfect sense.
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Keep hatin niggas
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>>101688925
So comedy movies aren't funny, or stand up comedians? How do you find humour in media then? Can you only find it if you personally find something funny that nobody else would have dreamed could be taken that way, and would never have intended to be taken as such?
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>>101688901
Isn't American Dad the same shit as Family Guy?
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>>101688972
Ok
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>>101689060
Precure is shit. Not even a tumblrcunt from /co/
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>>101688901
People really like South Park?
It's way to scatological and "in-your-face" for me. All these episodes about recent events for example.
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>>101688947
It was surprisingly hard to think of three great comedy anime after the fact.

Paniponi Dash!
Kuuchuu Buranko
Sayonara Zetsubou Sensei
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>>101688113
>hurr durr I was just pretending to be retarded
Wow what a funny joke.
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>>101688901
South Park > Futurama > American Dad > Everything Else
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>>101688901
Is King of the Hill really as amusing to people that aren't from Texas?
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>>101689057
It's a lot better
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>>101688901
>Liking King of the Hill but hating Superjail.
Why do you like South Park as of now? Comedy Central is just milking a dead cow as it is.
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>>101688972

Done. Anime is better.
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>>101688901
>>101689134

Robot Chicken > Your stuff
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>>101689124
You can chuck Kill Me Baby on that list aswell.
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>>101689143
I live in Yurop and I find it very enjoyable. It's almost like watching slice of life.
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>>101689176
>corrupting children's pure minds with deviant tranny characters
Please.
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>>101689108
Which one?
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>>101687246
>Sir
Proof that god loves cartoons
Bless the almighty Horseman
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>>101689143
I find it an amusing show and I'm from Michigan.

Also, looks like the thread's on autosage.
Thanks for letting the conversation continue mod.
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>>101689191
My nigga.
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>>101689143
I think it's funny to non Texans because we know all the stereotypes about Texans.

Like literally even people in Asia and Africa know of the Texans.
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>>101689025
I do find some media funny, but no, I don't go out of my way to watch comedians or comedies. If you want an actual fucking example I laughed at some of the posts in the draw your favorite mango page thread.
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>>101689218
The new one is absolute garbage. The two or three before that were pretty meh-bad as well.

It has been a while.
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>>101689263
Yup, that's autism.
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>>101689115
It's hit or miss. Sometimes it's brilliant, sometimes it's poop jokes.
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>>101688993
>I'm not some idiot that's going to scream "WELL THEN YOURE OBJECTIVELY WRONG
Well thank you, but I must admit I don't really have concrete examples right now, it's just things I experience as I watch/read anime/manga. So I guess I lose this argument, not that it matters.

>Fact of the matter is that Japan as a whole is much less straightforward about their actions and feelings
I think that's the problem I have sometimes. Ridiculous settings happen in any form of media, and usually they make for good stories. But dragging out a romance over 20 volumes or some shit really pisses me off. And really, that's the problem I have with most anime/manga. It's easy to go "Oh, Japan" for most things, but something inside me just rages when when I watch a show.
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>>101687646
>he doesn't lift
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Thread is on autosage? Good
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>>101689263
I do get where you are coming from. it feels completely contrived when its so obviously trying and ruins the whole thing, where as say something funny happening to one of the characters as part of their everyday life in a cute girls doing cute things SoL feels natural and is actually funny. The forced comedy feels like you are letting yourself be manipulated, the other is finding humor in a natural situation.
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>>101689215

What's wrong? Did maria-chan make you realize you were a homo?
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>>101689328
>autosage
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>>101689316
And when they hit the mark, they're the sharpest show on television. Remember that agnosticism episode a few years ago with the argument about the giant invisible bird in the sky? I spat out my fucking drink, they had my argument for agnosticism word for fucking word.
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>>101689405
>my argument
You mean the one you and them both happened to read on the internet acquire as your own then regurgitate with ignorance?
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>>101689320
I understand frustration with lack of development. Sometimes that's just poor writing. But an inability to understand how someone could think like that is a problem on your own part, more than anything to do with culture. A lot of people are hesitant, and just don't want to make the move. Some people are insecure. There's a whole spectrum of people and personalities out there.
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the reason adventure time has a much higher budget than gargantia is due to the fact that the japanese animators are treated like shit compared to american animators. They get paid less than americans and they are treated more strictly by their bosses nonetheless. Japanese animators are expendable and easily replaceable in their large industry full of people willing to work for less. Because the american cartoon industry is less harsh you end up with lesser quality animations with more budget. Japanese animation industry had to learn to make better quality with less resources. You have to feel sorry for some of these guys, they work all day everyday under severe pressure for lesser pay
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>>101689312
Fine with me, better then having shitty normalfag taste.

>>101689357
Yeah, that pretty much sums it up.
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>>101689442
The one I came to thinking it over on my own time.
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>>101689500

>american animators

You mean Korean animators.
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>>101689525
You really are a special snowflake.
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>>101689357
are you serious? You have to be a giant neckbeard weaboo to espouse the humour of a cute girls SoL while foregoing actual comedy movies and shows.
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>>101686060
I watched Adventure time out of curiosity and it was pretty good, the show hold the spirit of the good old anime comedies, I wouldn't be surprised if Toriyama was their source of inspiration just like he was for most of japan.
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>>101689375
Then what is this? Thread is already on 8th page/
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>>101689559
Give me proof against it. I'm completely open for discussion.
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>>101689635
Bump limit.
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>>101689579
You do know you're on /a/, right?
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>>101689710
It's 500.
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>>101689687
Are you retarded? You are the product of environment and so are your thoughts. You live in a similar culture and likely have fairly similar views, opinions and general mindset to those people. To suggest you 'came to it on your own' is fucking stupid.
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I just don't understand how adults can enjoy a children's cartoon. I've seen it and it was kind of cute, but I just can't take you seriously if you are telling me this is a show you regularly watch.
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>>101689730
Yeah, but I didn't realise it was this bad. I always thought the image of a fat neckbeard with a body pillow was an exaggeration, like a political cartoon or something. It's fucking real though isn't it?
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>>101689781
This doesn't make it any less valid. I want to hear an argument against it.
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>>101689842
>implying anime isn't childrens cartoons from Japan
>implying this post isn't obvious bait
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>>101689944
I don't watch the same shows /a/ watches and frankly I don't understand /a/'s love of jap kiddie shows either.
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>>101689842
You obviously aren't an adult yourself because any mature people know that activities who bring joy without harming other people doesn't have an age limit, one wise philosopher once said "fun things are fun" and happiness filled the heart of the people around him,
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>>101689932
From what I've seen over the years, it was just like that for a long time, a tongue in cheek joke. But pretending to be something for laughs will attract people who feel that they're in good company, and the original intention is lost.

People with their head on straight still know it's an elaborate joke.
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>>101689932
>it's fucking real though isn't it
No, I think you are just retarded.
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>>101689933
Of course it does. Calling it 'my argument' implies it is something unique to you. The post I just made points out that it is likely not an argument unique to you in the slightest but one that is probably considered by a large section of the population with similar attitudes and influences. That you seem to imply they are sharp because they came to the same conclusion as you also highlights your arrogance. Shows are made for their target audience and guess what it did a good job by pandering to your mindset there!
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>>101688304
>Codename Kids Next Door

Aw man that was the shit.

I loved that show.
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>>101689545
American or korean it doesnt matter. American animation companies treat whoever their workers are much better than the sweatshops of anime companies
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>>101690003
>I don't watch the same shows /a/ watches
You watch mature anime for mature people like you?
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>>101690038
>someone prefers anime to cartoons on /a/ so they must be a neckbeard with a body pillow

Is all of /co/ this stupid?
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>>101690007
Don't you want something more from your shows though? I don't care what age group a show or movie belongs to, but let's be real here. Kid's shows and movies have the depth of a puddle most of the time.
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>>101690131
/co/ is basically tumblr 2.0
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>>101689320
>romance
You don't watch anime for romance, it's probably the worst genre after ecchi and harem. Nips just can't into it for some reason.
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>>101690125
I don't know. I just don't find cute girls doing cute things all that hypnotizing beyond an episode or two.
I watched Tatami Galaxy last night and really enjoyed it.
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>>101690170
Not even god can help that board.
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>>101690170
Guess that's pretty evident by this thread, don't know why I asked.
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>>101690186
The cute girls shows aren't for children for the most part. Its more the action shows, the harem shows, the robot shows, the card game shows, the magical girls shows.

Also Tatami Galaxy is the worst anime Yuasa has directed.

Kemonozume > Kaiba > Tatami Galaxy
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>>101690170
With mods who are former tripfags with tumblr blogs.
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>>101690131
the problem is the people who declare Anime the greatest form of entertainment in the world and anything else is dogshit, especially if it's made in the West. It's like fucking white guilt but instead of Slavery it's Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
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>>101690145
Sometimes I want to watch The WIre. Sometimes I want to watch Precure. I don't see why is this a problem.
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>>101690258
Hipster level: maximum
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>>101690093
>Sunrise
They're treated like fucking royalty, you just ignorant as fuck.
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>>101690258
>action shows, the harem shows, the robot shows, the card game shows, the magical girls shows.

The only shows I've watched that I would consider part of those is gundam 0079 and gundam zeta.

I'll check out Kaiba, but I can't do horror so I will have to skip out on Kemonozume.

>>101690300
That doesn't change the fact that I don't understand how you don't get bored watching precure pretty quickly.
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>>101690145
>Be entertained
>Have fun
That's all I need, if I wanted to experience something meaningful I would go out to put my body and soul at work and not sit my ass in the couch watching/reading pseudo deep fiction to circlejerk with other philosophers wannabe on the internet.
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>>101689842
Log Horizon was made for kids
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>>101690300
Some people just aren't that open minded, they have to feel they are watching something as sophisticated as them to enjoy themselves. I can quite happily span from Bergman to Mean Girls or LoGH to Ojamajo Doremi depending on mood. Some people just need to feel validated by how adult and sophisticated what they are watching is though.
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>>101690452
Whenever anime is listed as horror you can safely assume there is no horror. I cant think of a single actually frightening thing that happened in it.
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>>101690452
In my opinion, I think it's all about mood and... Mindset? I don't know how to say it. Bringing out your inner child, I suppose. Why? Because it's fun and it's nice to have variety.
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>>101690452
>Kemonozume.
>horror
It's a love story.
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>>101690619
>Bringing out your inner child, I suppose
Well, that explains a lot. My inner child died a long, long time ago.

>>101690617
>>101690666
Alright, I'll check it out then.
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>>101689124

>It was surprisingly hard to think of three great comedy anime after the fact.

The Japanese aren't a particularly funny people. Even their funny stuff seems almost drama like and preachy.
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>>101689842
Anime is for kids dude.

>>101689579
>>101689932

>le b8

Simply epik

>>101690708
>this edge

>>101690756

That's because your only contact with their culture is through anime.

Japs don't do subtle humor, but westerners don't like slapstick and reactions like they do.
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>>101690756
>The Japanese aren't a particularly funny people

GO GO CULTURAL IMPERIALISM.

Just because you don't get jokes it because you are not part of that culture does not mean they are not funny.
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>>101690278
>people who declare Anime the greatest form of entertainment
Once again, you're on /a/, how is it any surprise that chinese cartoons are the favored medium. I'm sure basically everyone here has enjoyed some western media, stop being an over dramatic faggot. Some people don't like lolsorandum cartoons, why do you fucking care?
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>>101690452
I think Zeta its a bit too dark to be considered "for children"
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>>101686170
>consistently on model
>interesting art style
>good use of colour
NO
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>>101690939
Probably, but those 2 are the only "robot shows" I could think of.
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>>101690939
Its made to sell toys to kids just like all Gundam idiot. Gundam is just an extended toy commercial.
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>>101690939
evangelion was made for children and ran on a shounen timeslot. Check mate atheists
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>>101690756
>Even their funny stuff seems almost drama like and preachy
Actually I find this to be far more true of American comedy than Japanese, sitcoms being by far the worst offender (Always Sunny being a noticeable exception), but satirical cartoons have a tendency to have jam a moral into the ending as well.
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>>101691158
Yes, but evangelion a shit.
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>>101688244
This actually makes me so sad. Simpsons was the show I grew up watching and it was so endearing to me, but then it went to shit. What happened? The show used to be filled with such passion and love.
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>>101691158
>a shounen timeslot
>shounen timeslot
>shounen
>timeslot
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>>101691288
Are you pretending to be retarded or do you think they can just put anything on any timeslot? Is this what you actually believe? That it's just a random occourance that more mature shows are aired on later timeslots in general? Not talking just anime but literally talking about television here. That is how it works.
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>/a/ , /co/ and /mpl/ fags throwing shit at each other
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>>101691158
It was unpopular with the kids and moved to a later timeslot where it gained its popularity, why are you bringing up an example of something that literally was too 'dark' for children?



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